Trump and MS-13

>>131994272
Because MS-13 is considerably more of a threat than ISIS is to American lives. The only gang that Trump can peruse and not come off as racist is the Aryan Brotherhood or Hell's Angels...

>>131994461
>Because MS-13 is considerably more of a threat than ISIS is to American lives
Their that powerful?

And I don't think anyone has accused Trump as racist for going after gangs.

>>131994549
I inferred that you were implying he was racist for going after a Hispanic gang. Anyways, MS-13's membership is roughly 70,000 currently, with at least half occupying the US. I wouldn't say they're the most dangerous gang in the US, with Latin Kings and Bloods being pretty high up there.

>>131994824
No I'm just wondering why MS-13 when there are a lot of gangs that needs to be taken care off. You said it right now yourself that Latin Kings and Blood are just as dangerous if not more so, they need to be taken care off as well. But they aren't

>>131994272
They have closer ties to the cartels, than any other US street gang.
>buy coca from MS-13
>MS-13 buys coca from cartel
>Cartel pays communist rebels, and commie governments for protection
>Communist governments use money to stay in power.
>Communist governments influence votes in the UN/lobby for more money
Net result, more commie cucks in the world, and getting your money, and having more say in the world.

>>131994995
One step at a time builds a staircase, trying to assemble all steps concurrently makes it fall to the ground. If Trump were to take on every gang at the same time, or even a few massive ones at once, it could potentially cause mass anarchy.

He may be toiling with the idea of eradicating the other dangerous street gangs after demoralizing MS-13, but if he let that go viral it would not be good.

>>131995090

You can see some of these enemies of the state infiltrate and influence sometimes through the leftist/communist/sharia alliance.

Like that Linda Sarsour or murdering bitch Donna Hylton they paid to speak at the big pussy hat party.

>yfw McCarthy was right.

>>131994272
I assume they are responsible for the heroin everywhere. well them and the dnc and cia.

>>131995439
A lot of people don't fully realize just how right McCarthy was. I think the Sharia alliance is going to back fire on them, in a big way though.

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>>131995439
>through the leftist/communist/sharia alliance.

>>131995229
I've been dreaming of the day one of our leaders called for a hard-end to the gang problem. They would get absolutely wrecked by mechanized infantry.

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>>131994272
he goes after them specifically because of the msm throughout the years making them seem like the king of street gangs. in la theyre just another street gang that bow down to la eme. f13, 18st, harpies, soxlos make more noise than them.

>>131995529
Heroin is good. Keeps the dummies occupied in their own little world and far away from making detrimental mistakes

>>131995693
Well as long as the amendments promises due process don't expect to see US army vs US gangs anytime son.

>>131995861
It would probably take some sort of Martial Law. It's a huge problem and no amount of band-aiding is going to fix it. Something has to be done. There's a precedent as well.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots
Also, these laws were just passed
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/house-to-vote-on-kate-s-law-as-part-illegal-immigrant-crackdown.html
Along with his recent declaration of his sending Federal help to Chicago, I feel like it may actually be happening.

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he's a racist pig that's why OP.

this guy was held at the border on his way to visit his dying mom.

trumps racism know no bounds

>>131996226
The LA riots is a prime example of why you shouldn't do a hard-line approach to gangs, because hard-line approach is one of the reasons it happened.

>>131994461
Aren't they just a local guys for drug producers and international distributors?

Central America is full of unemployment and spews out street gangs, but they don't have a dedication to make a quasi-governmental structures out of it. Guatemala's people are too well meaning for that, though their countries go to shit. Spoiler: THANKS AMERICA.

>>131996313
Go be reddit somewhere else

>>131994272
Because blacks are a more protected group. For whatever reason, Jews have never defended the indigenous or mestizos as strongly.

>>131996499

go back to your closet faggot

>>131994272
Because MS-13 is a gang that disturbs the lives of law abiding citizens.

It's different in that way.

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>>131994272
>why is trump so focused on latino isis

>>131996313
what a sad pic

>>131996414
The LA Riots were also the result of political unrest due to a case of police brutality against an African-American man named Rodney King. The precedent is that when situations get out of hand due to violent crime, (i.e. Chicago) some hard-line measures need to be taken. These people kill other people, and then proceed to brag about it in their rap music. My family had to move us of the town I grew up because it became a sanctuary city and the gang activity exploded.

>>131996732
>a sanctuary city
What's that?

>>131996732
The King trial was the straw that broke the camels back, and a hard-line measure works if it doesn't get out of hand. But it got out of hand in LA, then when the King trials happened all hell broke loose
>Brag about in their rap music
Rap music didn't really embrace the gangster lifestyle before or during the riots, even NWA was somewhat critical to it.

>>131996934
safe space for immigrants

you can't be expelled out of a city that his this status for not having documents

>>131996934
A city that at the very least turns a blind eye towards illegal immigration, and at the worst actively aids such efforts. It's basically just a giant scheme to get import voters for globalist interests. I have no clue how it wasn't national news when the PA National Guard got sent into one of the sanctuary cities in my state because the gangs there got uppity after one of them was shot and killed by a police officer.

>>131997005
Modern day military and police technology, plus decades of Federal infiltration and the information that was never acted upon, can ensure it won't get out hand this time around. Modern day trap and other Jew-media garbage absolutely does, and it's sickening that it's popular amongst every young demographic. For some reason I thought your flag was a foreign country as well.

>>131995229
They're also universally hated by immigrants including illegals so it's a win win for everyone right now

>>131995439
its more of a feminist/communist/islamic alliance as lefitism=communism and sharia is an afterthought of islam consuming a society

>>131997383
As long as profiling aren't involved and everyone has a warrant that it should not get out of hand
>>131997197
You got any local news source on this map?

>>131997197
Has any Republican in your government ever made a concerted effort to target and prosecute the officials involved in maintaining this 'sanctuary' farce? It sounds flagrantly illegal, and it can't be all that hard to gather evidence. Has Trump said anything about this practice?

>>131997759
Try to keep up Britbong
See this post >>131996226
>Has Trump said anything about this practice?
How that's rock you been living under?

>>131997583
Same, I'm not advocating a war, but rather a well-targeted chipping away of their established leadership.

There might have been a media blackout. I can't find a goddamn thing. It was in a town named Hazleton

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>>131997985
Well I'm glad that we are on the same page then

>>131994272
Violent barbarians

>>131997759
There also seems to be a massive investigation currently underway involving illegals being used in voter fraud.

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Because the Zetas are being killed and arrested all over the place. Secondly, they're mostly a local group and not hiding behind our southern borders. Thirdly, they don't have to spend months falsifying documents across Europe then swim across the ocean to become a threat.

>>131998550
Aaaa yes the
>I would have won the popular vote if 3 million illegals didn't vote
narrative, I'm surprised that one is still alive.
>>131998572
Wait the Zetas don't operate in the USA

>>131997759
>Has Trump said anything about this practice?
Yeah, it was one of his big things during the campaign. He basically wants to pull Federal funding from sanctuary cities, things like school payments, highway money, and gibs.

>>131998807
And they are getting closer to doing just that

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/house-to-vote-on-kate-s-law-as-part-illegal-immigrant-crackdown.html

>>131998691
It's actually a big deal though. This whole election stunk of massive corruption. Illegals shouldn't be voting period, or else they'll completely drain an entire cities gib budget. Granted, the money spent investigating a done deal could be better used implementing voter ID laws that would make it a null issue.

>>131999061
Yes illegals shouldn't vote, I don't even understand how someone votes in your country with no ID because ID is mandatory in my country. However that doesn't change the fact that it's very silly how Trump is crying about it and how it all just reeks of ego. Nor does it change the fact that it all started as a meme which nobody has found any proof off.

Seriously how did that idea start that millions of illegals voted? Because earliest mentions I could find was a meme

>>131994995
MS-13 is apparently making big inroads in his home turf in NY. Haven't had much of anything to do with the drug scene there in a number of years, but it is getting bad, and by the way things have been shaping up I would be 100% unsurprised to hear stories.

>>131994995
After MS-13 is mostly removed from the US, whatever system has been set up to accomplish this will still be around and will need a new task. What you list will be dealt with eventually.

>>131999233
There's quite a bit more to it than you think. It mainly has to do with the state of California and their quite active communist party. But as with the Obama wiretapping story, it has to be pieced together through Wikileaks and independent news sources, so there's no official verification of any sort. Here's a decent article that gives a quick rundown. It wasn't 3 million but it wasn't insignificant.

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/

>>132000000
WORST GET

>>132000000
kek

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>>132000000

Whoa mama.

>>132000000
I don't think we can make a meme out of this

>>132000000
K E K
E
K

>>132000000
Well shit, both stories confirmed true.

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>>132000000

>>132000000
> Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016
>Probably
>it's almost certain
That's not a good start

>Getting rid of gang violences and gangs is a good thing, however why does Trump seem so focused on MS-13 and them alone?

Because they have zero political support, and their name isn't as triggering as if he went after the Latin Kings.

>>131994272
Salvadorians are inbred scum who are more violent than chimps

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>>132000000
TAKE MY ENERGY

>>132000311
All headlines are clickbait, it's been their purpose since the invention of the printing press.

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>>132000000
>a

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>>132000424
>quick

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>>132000451
>rundown

>>131994272
MS-13 is more of a localized threat. It is as bad as ISIS and MS-13 has about over 10k members in the US alone.

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>>132000424
>>132000451
>>132000467
Very nice

>>132000350
You implying that any other organised crime group has political support?

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>>132000000

>>131999233
In some states you need ID to vote or register, and the illegals have ID's in a lot of cases, they even have SSN's, passports. With millions of cases of identity theft and fraud, its hard not to believe a large number of people are voting illegally.

>>132000423
>it's almost certain
Is taken from the article itself, which just shows that even the article is working on a maybe scale

>>132000618
We never get smoking guns on any sort of real issue anymore, so you work with what you got.

>>131994272
one of the largest gangs in the world, they're in multiple countries and involved in pretty much everything, drugs/human trafficing/murder/etc
they're established in multiple US states

>>132000000
>http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/

No evidence still though. You'd think if there were a statistically significant number of illegal immigrants who managed to vote illegally, that you'd be able to point to hundreds or at least thousands.

Article relies on 'maybes' and feels.

>>132000000
Noice

>>132000554
There's links betwen the old black panthers and the bloods and crips, and some of the former black panthers went into congress.

There's loose overlap between the latin kings and latino street protesters.

In addition for politics in the US, it's the Mexicans, and then the Cubans. You can name black, mexican, cuban politicians fairly easily. El Savadorian ones?

And it doesn't matter whether they have actual political support. It's the perception. As anon mentioned earlier, the MSM has hyped up MS13 as super violent cartels. They're the obvious target to take down.

>>132000542

Tell me they don't actually exist

>>132001048
I'd hesitate to call the old black panthers a criminal gang.

>>131994995
Ms13 are very aggressive with expansion which in turn leads to violence. Taking care of the wandering wolf is a better choice then the bull in its pen

>>132001151
>he doesnt know

give him a quick rundown

>>132000897
I'm aware it isn't conclusive. Regardless, I hope current investigations prove fruitful. I'd love to see some serious overhaul to our current voting system.

>>132001165
More specifically, when the old black panthers split up, a bunch of them became crips.

>>131994272
>>131994272
They are one of the most dangerous gangs OP.

The heck is your point

>gee, I know x is one of the worst, but why focus on that?

honestly I wish he would focus on the BGD too.

>>131995090
mind blown reading that...

but makes sense.

>>132001165
the NEW black panther party is.

>>131999233
>Seriously how did that idea start that millions of illegals voted?
The answer to your question is this: California.

>>132001409
My point was why this gang alone, why not all of them? They all need to go but all the focus seems to be on this one gang alone.
>the NEW black panther party is.
And the old panther has spoken out against them.

>>131994272
>why does Trump seem so focused on MS-13
Because they are srs bzns. They make half of isis training camps look like larpers.

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Bc it fit his anti immigrant narrative, knowing niggers are a bigger threat to American prosperity than paco and his essays picking veggies. N the joses you see in the streets mostly grew up in the country and learned the nigger way of life, bc of that they're no different than niggers and should be treated as such

>>132001614
Easiest target. Kind of like how the media was able to demonize conservatism as a whole by calling us all Nazis. Once Trump and admin see the public's reaction, he can start calling the others out.

>>131994272
Great day to be Norté

Pres cracking down on Sureno

>>131994549

>Their that powerful?
>Their

you mean they're

GOD do you not know basic English

>>132001995
>GOD do you not know basic English
Anon, I don't think that that poster is God.

>>132001995
We all make mistakes, like you do when picking a bed partner.

>>132000000
As a Califag who is not a commie, yeah, it's almost fucking guaranteed.

This state is lax as shit on election day, there are tons of commies that show up to every rally, and tons of mexican illegals fucking everywhere.

There are bastions of decent americans but SF is lefty cult central and LA is as it has always been: jew mob controlled (though now shared with cartel mob controlled)

>>132000000
wasted

>>132001871
Taco detected.

Prepare to be ejected forcibly Juan.

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https://goregrish.com/video/1065/cartel-brutality

BOMB MEXICO

>>132000897
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/07-21.pdf

Here is some

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05956.pdf

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2008/07/the-threat-of-non-citizen-voting#_ftn1

https://www.google.com/amp/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/do-illegal-votes-decide-elections-1480551000?client=safari

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-california-s-top-elections-officer-1498771356-htmlstory.html
Notice how California is hiding their publicly available, and often sold out, voter information? The excuse is that it would hurt our democracy despite them doing so with the debunked Russia conspiracy and propaganda machine. They say this is the conclusion based off 0 evidence and instead wish to hide from investigation all at the behest of a mexican

>>132003709
>so with the debunked Russia conspiracy
Not debunked yet

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>>132000000 baka
>>131999999 strongest

>>131994995
A lot of ms-13 is made up of illegal immigrants. It's a lot easier to ship the fuckers away for not having papers than it does to prosecute every single one of them for a gang related crime commited in the U.S.

Plus it helps keep trumps prouse of throwing the illegals back over border.

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>>131995229
DAmm...

>>131994272
MS-13 is extremely dangerous. Not just their membership numbers, but their utter lack of empathy for women and children.
My wife is salvadorian, I've been to the country several times. They kidnap, extort and kill innocents like it's morning breakfast.
The country is such a shit hole if you don't have money; drives the poor to commit these crimes. The prison system is a joke, essentially just a paid vacation for these people. So they come to the states not knowing a lesson about repercussions for crimes and commit the same third world crimes here. And as we've seen, they're getting off easy here too thanks to the liberal infestation.

>558 watching now
lel

Strong work for ruptly tho covering this in stereo

>>132004886
What are you talking about

>>132002618
Kek. I'm not wrong

>>131994272
because of marketing reasons.

>>131994272

Because they're niggers that came out of the El Salvador civil war.

They used to be some gang before the war. But then the communist guerrillas started kidnapping children and using them as soldiers and terrorists.

After the war ended the child soldiers got into organized crime and niggers from the neighboring countries started migrating to El Salvador to pick coffee and sugar cane because over half of the mestizo and white population left during the civil war. El Salvador is small. They had around 5 million people and like 2-3 million left. Reagan gave the diaspora El Salvadorans amnesty... so they never went back.

Civil War changed El Salvadoran demographics. Now you'll find El Salvadoran with english surnames... Belizeans and Hondurans often have English surnames. This was supposedly rare before the war.

The child soldiers/former guerrillas started recruiting the new blacks. Soon, the gang spread outside of El Salvador to neighboring regions.

>>131994995

Because the Latin Kings tend to stick to nigger parts of the country.

MS-13 spreads to white areas. They're fucking annoying.

The pre-civil war junta government would have exterminated them.

This is why socialism/liberalism/communism are bad for Latin America. Niggers get of control... turn what would be peaceful countries into Africa tier shitholes.

El Salvador is a progressive shithole. They elected a Palestinian as their president. They elected a PLO/Hamas Palestinian.

Literally, all the white people left.

>>131994549
Go look at some of the stuff they've done in Long Island.

Dudes are straight forward radical islamist, meaning, they actually admit to being satanists and kill in the most barbaric fashion.

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>>131994272
Could it be a simple case of taking on the meanest and biggest bully in the schoolyard, in order to let the other pissants know that it's time for change, or they're next?

>>132006261
>This is why socialism/liberalism/communism are bad for Latin America. Niggers get of control... turn what would be peaceful countries into Africa tier shitholes.
Yeah but I doubt that the Contras would have turned Nicaragua into a stable country of right wing prosperity.

>>132000000
Praise kek, and meme magic

Isn't MS 13 literally satanic?

>>131994824
>Latin Kings and Bloods
Literally meme gangs that woudn't and couldn't hurt a fly anymore, anybody who says they are a blood is just a punk ass bitch fronting, and trying to act tough.

>>131996582

John Sununu may have put El Salvador on the rader. He's lebanese-american through El Salvador. His mom or grandma could be from El Salvador.

El Salvador has an arab population and the leader of the Communist guerrilla party was or is a Palestinian. Shafik Handal.

The left wing party of El Salvador wanted to move their Israeli embassy out of Jerusalem.

El Salvador is on the radar in the arab world. If the terrorists tried to start shit in the Americas they'd go over there for support because of Arab leadership among the left.

>>131996481
This country went to shit a loooooooong time ago

>>131994272
MS-13 is notoriously violent -- so much so that its appeared on the History channel and other shit housewives have on tv during the day

>>131994549
MS13 has been in the US for decades, beaner culture isn't as pervasive in the media as nigger culture is, that's the only reason we hear more about crips and bloods than ms13.

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>>132000000
s h a d i l a y

>>132007463
>John Sununu may have put El Salvador on the rader. He's lebanese-american through El Salvador. His mom or grandma could be from El Salvador.
>Sununu, one of eight siblings, was born in Boston, Massachusetts, the son of Nancy (née Hayes) and former Governor of New Hampshire and White House Chief of Staff John H. Sununu. His father's paternal ancestors came to the United States from the Middle East around the start of the 20th century, while his paternal grandmother was born in El Salvador to a family of Lebanese Greek Orthodox Christians that had settled in Central America at the turn of the century. His father's paternal ancestry is Palestinian from the Greek Orthodox community in Jerusalem. Despite the family's ancestry from Jerusalem, some members of the family were from Beirut, in what is today Lebanon. His father, John, was born in Havana, Cuba. His paternal grandfather, also named John, was born in the United States, and most of the last two generations of Sununus were also born in the United States. His mother's ancestors include immigrants from Ireland, as well as Scotland and England.
Fascinating

>>132007751
I don't know where you are in the country, but the past few years especially even up in the north there's been a noticeable uptick in beaner presence. And then there's the heroin. MS-13 is an extremely easy story to sell, regardless of how bad or not it really is.

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>>131994272
Are they strongest gang in usa?
Why russians, italians, asians and blacks maffias don't get rid of them?

Geography. Can't have mass murders from MS-13 on fucking Long Island—one of the wealthiest plots of land in the world. Who fucking cares about LA gangs those are their own people. MS-13 and the other shitskins Obama allowed in were given sanctuary status on Long Island and they need to die.

>>132008270
>Asian Mafia
No such thing

>>132008487
Yakuza and triad of known to me. I guess they should have influence on the west of america.

>>131994272
Ms-13 had a big presence on East coast and NYC Jersey area
Plus South and Texas if I'm not mistaken. If I'm right about ms-13s territory, he is taking care of his own and leaving the more California based ones to rot.

>>131996530
There would be major chimpouts if they went after the groids in earnest.

>>132007751
It's because it started from refugees

>>132008487
>>132008730
The MO of the Triads and Yakuza is to operate in the shadows.

If you're fucking an asian prostitute on the west coast, you can bet your fucking ass that she's a victim of human trafficking and under the control of one of the above.

They also supply the entire Asian market with guns smuggled from the US, with Hawaii being a hub for both arms and human trafficking.

>>132000451
Fuckin lost it

>>132008382
I remember when the scariest part of drugs on LI was when your middle man wanted you to come along with him to the crack nigger den and you're like
>fuck
>they better not fucking pull out a gun this time

>>131999999

>>132010042
Or having to debase yourself by having to actually ask Sito, the Dominican dishwasher if he was holding.

>>132010042
MFW grew up on North Shore and had to go to some shit hole in middle island like Islip or Coram to score.

>>132010447
The worst was riding down the William Floyd thinking
>ok
>Let me think how to play this
>I can get him to let me stay in the car down the street this time

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>>132003958
>strongest

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>>131994995
>they need to be taken care off as well. But they aren't


But they are. ICE arrested a fuck load of them my man. Don't worry, everything will be cool.

>>131994272
Because he saw them on Tucker Carlson one night.

>>132011021
There is no evidence to prove that the people the ICE arrested are gang members

>>131994461
Long Islander here. They're really not all that dangerous if you're white and not a druggie degenerate, they mostly kill other spics in their shitty ghettos (Brentwood, CI, Copaigue). All spics need to get the fuck off of my island though

>>131994272

Because MS-13 is a gangland arm of the Bourbon Family Crime Syndicate via the Spanish throne. The King of Spain is the head of the Order of Montesa which is the continuation of the Knights Templar of Aragon. The Knights Templar Cartel in Mexico and others are controlled by the Spanish House of Bourbon and other Spanish and Italian nobility. Drug cartels are drug merchants and the Templars were also merchants and bankers.

They represent a rival to Trump's "Five Families of New York" faction including the Boncompagni (literally "Good Fellas" "BON=Good" "Compagni = Fellows") and Genovese Families (Genovese owned S&A concrete used to build his condos), also the Grimaldi (Black Sea Mafia).

Short answer: It's just business.

>>132008730
>>132009653
But the Yakuza games told me that the Yakuza are a honourable bunch who will wants to take care of orphans while running all of their hostess clubs, karaoke clubs and only messes with people who messes with them

No I haven't played the Yakuza games, why do you ask?

>>132011630
Now that's a conspiracy theory