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Ask a guy who was on the jury of a pedo rape trial anything

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The case: 48yr old guy meets 17yr old on an online dating site and starts regularly visiting her at home for sex.

The problem: she's mentally handicapped, and according to her parents she can't consent to anything. She attends school online from home while her mom works.

The facts: Dude starts sexing her up at 17 (legal in this state). One of her online classmates hears about her "boyfriend" and calls the police to report it. The cops come and roust them, but there's really nothing they can do because (a) she's 18 now and (b) she told the cops he's her boyfriend and she invited him over. The cops call her mom and bricks are shat. Mom wants him off the property so the cops tell him to leave, which he does...(continued)
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Not Guilty
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>pedo
>17

that word does not mean what you think it means.
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>>131813894
Marry her. Only real answer here.
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>>131813894
So then what?: The cop (who's a total Chad) won't let it go and decides to interrogate the dude. After a few months of "investigating" they decide there's still nothing they can charge him with so the case is dropped. Weeks later, the mom finds a dvd in the girl's roon showing them banging and blows a vein in her forehead. She swears the girl would've been 17 in the video (making it CP) but the dvd was burned after she was 18. Officer Chad obtains a warrant to search the dude's house for evidence of CP.

It gets better: The cops surround this guy's house and serve the warrant. In a panic he snaps the other dvds he had in half, and take the hard drive out of computer and THROWS IT OUT A WINDOW. Amazingly, none of the cops saw it...(continued)
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>>131813894
Your mistakes were:

1. Trying to date someone that is more than 20 years younger than you.

2. Having sex before marriage.

Next time you know what you shouldn't do.
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>>131814237
Hang on, I'm getting to that part
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>>131813894
What was the "mentally handicap" since I am guessing this was the mothers idea to get him pegged
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>>131814498
SO, after the search the cops have some broken dvds that can't be used and a computer with no hard drive. They start interrogating him about where the drive is and instead of keeping his mouth shut HE TELLS THEM WHERE IT IS. Low and behold a few of the videos were of her at 17 and he was officially fucked.
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>>131813894
guilty thats a weird fuck
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>>131813894
Why didn't you just write this all out in notepad instead of typing for ten minutes between posts
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>>131814815
In a panic, he decides his best move is to take the girl downtown and marry her. After that he tries to claim spousal immunity and the cops laugh because they have the videos to use against him. He gets 40+ charges filed against him and then he comes to see us.

AMA
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>>131813894
Gail the snail
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>>131814957

If he did, faggots would accuse him of using reddit space
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>>131814815
Well he's guilty for possessing underaged porn at the very least. What exactly is her mental handicap?
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Fuck this dude send him to nigger jail.
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>>131814629
They didn't tell us a specific disease, instead the expert just testified that she had the mentality of a 10 year old and couldn't consent even if she wanted to
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>Ask me anything
Cancerous reddit styling aside, is the guy in jail now or what?
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>>131815254
i got one question, and this really boggles my mind since i just dont understand it:
how can ANYBODY be stupid enough to fuck an underage AND take footage of it AND storing said material on a hard drive/dvd?????

Generally, why do people feel the need to make sextapes of themselves?
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>>131815182
His defense was that she didn't tell him about her handicap and he couldn't tell by talking to her. Honestly, I couldn't really tell while she was testifying. She seemed shy, and I got the sense that she didn't want to participate in any of this but her mother was forcing her to
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>>131815254
you should have thrown that out
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>>131815182
being a woman
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>>131815357
Yes. Convicted on all counts, 100 years in prison. They only told us after the verdict that he had a previous conviction for diddling an 8 year old boy
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was he convicted?
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If only they put that much energy into investigating real pedophile networks, those with real children under 10yo who are passed around and sold.
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>>131815097
She just accepted to marry you?
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>>131813894
Age of consent is a meme
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This actually happened to me, met some girl online, she is legal age, 22 but apparently she lives at home, no job, and her Mom still has legal custody of her as an adult because according to them she is "slow", on top of that they don't let her leave the house or date.

Now having talked to her for a few weeks I could tell she was hardly mentally retarded, she's not going to win a nobel prize or anything but still no dumber than the average burger and it;s clear her mom is lying and gaming the state to get free money, however the girl started talking of running away and coming to live with me and all this shit, I ended it there because the last thing I needed was a rape charge because I "kidnapped" and "raped" a legally retarded girl.
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>>131815555
Wasn't up to me. His public defenders never presented any witnesses or evidence to counter the expert.
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>>131815764
>he had a previous conviction for diddling an 8 year old boy
Well shit, that turned me around. If it was an actual conviction (not just a charge) then I'm not sure why he was walking free in the first place.
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>>131815097
good lord that is depressing
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>>131815951
He did time for it, happened in the 90's.
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>>131815489
the entire fucking industry of social media is one big brainwash scheme to tell people it's okay to just upload your whole fucking life online or at least store it digitally.

It's only going to get worse, I guarantee it. Sometimes I genuinely think that there's only one small group of people who were born at just the right time to get hammered with the "INTERNET BAD AND DANGEROUS DO NOT PUT ANY PERSONAL INFO ONLINE EVER EVER EVER" idea. The ones preceding are just amazed and confused by the technology and the ones following are steeped in it from birth now that everyone uses it

i dunno. i'm sure this has been said every moment since the first human, but we live in interesting times
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>>131815898
Stay far the fuck away man.
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>>131815764
why did you agree to convict without knowing? w/o knowledge of previous conviction, seems flimsy as fuck
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>>131815898
>met some girl online

want to know how i know you're a retard?
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>>131815820
this. OP is a faggot until he answers.
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>>131815489
I guess he felt like he hit the pervert lottery and wanted to be able to re-live it at home.
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>>131815520
So I doubt it has much to do with the handicap and moreso the fact that he filmed it while she was underage and destroyed evidence. Why the fuck would you even film yourself doing illegal shit? It's what i don't get when I see those idiot black thugs filming themselves robbing gas stations.

>>131815764
>hey only told us after the verdict that he had a previous conviction for diddling an 8 year old boy
lol good riddance
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>>131816147
The judge would not allow them to tell us his previous criminal history. We were only allowed to consider what was presented to us.
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>>131816229
never mind OP answered
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Honestly I'm glad he went to jail. Degenerates who have sex with women decades younger than themselves and aren't going to at least marry them can eat shit.
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>>131815820
>>131816229
I said above he got convicted. He got 100 years. Oh, and OP is always a fag.
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>>131816132
It seems like many people born 60s-90s could fall into the middle category. My father and uncle were born in the early 60s and avoid putting any personal information online, neither has a normiebook account. I also have a younger cousin that was born in the 90s but grew up in the country and has the same mentality.
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>>131816132
good shit
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>>131816132
personally, i was fortunate enough to get taught at an early age that uploading personal information online is dangerous. but why did that stop? why is nobody talking about this anymore? i remember when they told us in school to be careful who we talk to and what information we publish online, but nowadays i hear nothing, nothing at all...
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>>131815254

was she hot tho?
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>>131816279
OP has stated that the sex was legal (in his state), just the filming was illegal

>>131816408
he did marry her you tard

learn2read

>>131816357
then why convict

you previously stated that the sex was legal in your state
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>>131816279
The sad truth is that this guy never would've even been charged if he had kept his mouth shut and not told them where the hard drive was. Once they had the "CP" vids he was fucked.
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>>131815520
she was probably a unironic sperg
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>>131813894
Check out


Brimstone and Treacle

The one with Sting in is ok, truly dark and interesting play about abuse and magic
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>>131816693
did they null the marriage?
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>>131815097
>He gets 40+ charges filed against him
JUSTICE
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>>131816613
>he did marry her you tard
>learn2read
yeah he "married" her in order to avoid going to jail. What I'm saying is that if you are going to fuck a girl 20+ years younger than yourself you had best be prepared to provide for her because otherwise you're just taking advantage of her.
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Reverse their ages and he could go on to run France some day. Really makes you think.
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What's funny is 1)It wasn't a rape 2)It wasn't pedo. Gotta love burgers, because the 5yo that WAS gang raped in Idaho by muslims didn't see the perpetrators go to jail and the parents were under court order to STFU. Oh say can you see?
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>>131815097
I want to ask you what you mean by "a vein in her forehead exploded"
Wtf does that mean?
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>>131816613
Why convict? Well, they had him on the CP. The law is pretty cut and dried - under 18 is illegal and the original video files were all dated from when she was 17. It came down to whether we accepted his excuse that he was just some innocent guy who got hornswaggled, and we didn't. It was obvious he was a complete scumbag, and while I didn't think he girl was 100% retarded they had tons of medical stuff to back up the claim that she couldn't consent.
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>>131816693
He was retarded enough to fucking record it on video.

The only time you should ever be paranoid enough to record a sexual encounter on video is if its a 1 night stand or * you've been out drinking with the girl.

There is also the fact that he knowingly kept the harddrive around even after they were questioning him

*Even then you've got fucking issues if youre that paranoid about it.
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>>131816820
Yes
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>>131813894
Dude, fucking a 17 year old is certainly not pedophilia.
I don't know what your laws are, but over here 16 is legal.

It's still shows the guy has no class to fuck a girl that is so much younger, but he's not a pedo, it doesn't fucking matter if she is retarded.
What you actually say is that retarded people cannot ever fuck voluntarily. because at what age will that person be capable of deciding that in your opinion?
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>>131817097

hey faggot answer my question >>131816574
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>>131816988
If it's any consolation he's almost definitely making it up. Nobody is wasting resources prosecuting guys for banging 17 year olds in consensual relationships .We can barely get all the actual kiddy fiddlers prosecuted and locked up or in treatment.
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>>131816871
They fucking piled on too. Kidnapping, rape, child porn, then tampering with evidence and possession of criminal tools for the screwdriver he removed the hard drive with.
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>>131817067
She reached a level of mad heretofore unknown
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>>131816493
>100
>years

pretty clear that this country has a strange relationship with sex and taboo.
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>>131817221
The OP said earlier in the thread that the guy was previously convicted for molesting an 8 year old. If so I could see cops looking for any excuse to put him back in jail, as they should.
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>>131815140
Reddit spacing only refers to the spacing between greentext and (you)ing and responses.

i.e. this post I'm making is not reddit spaced. Yours is.

Point is, on leddit, if you do a double carriage return, it counts as 1 line, if you only do one carriage return, it keeps it on the same line. So in order to separate your text from the quoted material, you have to double space. On 4chan, you don't double space a reply. That's the difference.
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>>131817205
She looked a lot like a young Juliette Lewis
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>>131817362
I read it again. I see. The MOM blew a vein in her forehead out of rage.
For some reason I first read it as the daughter blew a vein in her forehead ehile fucking.
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>>131817497

hawt
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>>131817221
Not LARPing. The town she lived in doesn't have a lot of crime, so the cop had plenty of time to pursue it plus the cop made it clear he didn't like the guy and was gunning for him.
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>>131816538
Because people realized that it's better if everyone freely gives out everything about themselves if you want to make money. Doesn't help their algorithms are shit and Amazon keeps recommending me to buy a laptop right after I buy a laptop, and so on.

So we quickly went from "don't let people steal your information on the internet so they can steal your money" to "make sure you give us all your information on the internet so we can monetize it"
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>>131817698
I guess? Not my type.
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>>131816493
That's a completely insane judgment. You actually agreed that this guy way guilty of something?
Good job, lol
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>>131817275
So that's why he got fucked. CP for 100 years sounds off but wholly fuck the DA dropped a nuke over his head
>Rape
Wait was it statutory rape or actual fucking rape?
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>>131816132
>Sometimes I genuinely think that there's only one small group of people who were born at just the right time to get hammered with the "INTERNET BAD AND DANGEROUS DO NOT PUT ANY PERSONAL INFO ONLINE EVER EVER EVER" idea.

I'm inclined to agree.
I'm 27 and my friends and I have often discussed this.

I think it's a combination of Britain being a bit of a nanny state and sensational media:
In the late 80's to early 00's there were many highly publicised child abuse cases simultaneously with many alarmist pieces about cyber crimes.

People in their formative years during this period were mostly repeatedly told the things you said: Never put out any personal information online or the pedos will get you.

This has been lost in the intervening years as the spectre of social media and the hunger for data has led to all of the same people who were warning us not to put our personal info online... putting their personal info online.
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>>131817497
>>131817698
Whoa, she was retarded AND looked retarded? Nice
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>>131817381
Yeah keep in mind they knew his whole history and really didn't like him. We only knew what they were allowed to say.
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>Diddled a kid and suddenly wants to marry someone of legal age
That's weird
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>>131818020
Yeah the DA even said afterwards they charge everything they can think of to leverage pleas and max the sentences. Seems like bullshit to me.
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>>131815764
>a previous conviction for diddling an 8 year old boy
ok, thats bad, but you convicted him of having consensual sex with a legal age girl, and then because he recorded it, piled on a mountain of bullshit over the bare facts:

>It was consensual
>She was legal age
>the retard stuff sounds like lawyer bs

So now he's going to jail for life, and the taxpayers pick up the tab.

Nice job, kike.
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>>131813894

>land of the free
>get raped in prison by black men because you fucked a fully developed girl

HAHAHA
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>>131817913
>Doesn't help their algorithms are shit and Amazon keeps recommending me to buy a laptop right after I buy a laptop

I fucking hate how youtube safaris are literally impossible now. The whole sidebar that USED to be 'related videos' is now almost entirely populated by videos in the same channel/playlist as the one you are watching, and the rest is shit you've already seen. Sometimes some shit youtube is REALLY trying to push for that sick ad revenue
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>>131818020
As for the rape question, the way the law is written it's considered actual fucking rape if she can't legally consent, even if she tells the guy yeah go ahead fuck me.
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>>131817913
while that may be true in general I believe that the main problem with giving away all your information online is that a huge number of people is not porperly educated about the consequences of their foolish carelessness. ive heard stories of people fucking themselves over on job applications because their fb profile or any of their account profiles for that matter was a complete mess. its just not healthy to make a glass body online if you have no idea why you should/shouldnt do it in the first place. people are just too dumb to care or think about it for a second.
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>>131818121
This must be pne of those maybury towns where lynchings only ended in 1989.
The guy is lucky she was 17, because had she been younger like the boy was, and it was 35 years sooner, they'd have picked him un brine.
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>>131818450
How the fuck is he supposed to know? Do we have to consult a fucking psychologist and her doctor for her health history before fucking a girl?
All this "cannot consent" stuff while the women says "fuck me" is completely retarded.
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>>131818360
>now hes going to jail for life
Breh, he wont have access to children again. Victimization of the community by said criminal has been reduced to zero.
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>>131816959
Lol
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>>131818360
Yes, she consented. Yes, he is going to jail. They had doctors and experts that all said she was too mentally handicapped to consent, and as I pointed out he failed to rebuff any of it. Real court isn't like TV, you have very rigid rules you have to follow in deciding.
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>>131818450
>As for the rape question, the way the law is written it's considered actual fucking rape if she can't legally consent, even if she tells the guy yeah go ahead fuck me.
Then why wasn't he charged in the first encounter and not after trying to scramble his fucking collection? If the girl was basically not authorized to have consent in the first place then the cop could had arrested them then and there.
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ITT: pedos who would rape mentally handicapped children defending a convicted kiddy diddler.
One less child molester on the streets, also he might actually get killed in prison. good job US justice system.
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>>131818647
If you talked to her long enough she seemed a little off. They said he should've realized she was handicapped. Plus she was attending school over the internet for special ed kids, which should also have tipped him off.
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>>131815841
Keked
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>>131818647
>How the fuck is he supposed to know?
Breh, hes supposed to court her for a short period of time, then meet her parents before even holding her hand.
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>>131813894
Not a pedo. Hebophile. For fuck sakes. Get it right
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Parents collect mad benefits for a tard kid even over 18.
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>>131818807
Nonsense, it's en vogue these days for college bitches to claim she didn't consent because of alcohol or something if they feel like a slut the next day for hooking up in a bar.
I'm against this bullshit. A guy picking up a girl cannot know if she has some psychological issue.
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>>131818765
They weren't sure they could convict on the rape part alone. The prosecutor felt like he could beat it somthey declined to press charges. Once they had the videos they were 100% sure he'd get convicted and like I said they piled on. We had no idea he'd get such a long sentence either, the judge decides that later on after a conviction. All we were allowed to decide is did he do what they say he did or not, and he never testified.
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>>131818924
Okay but
>Illegal to have sex
>Somehow it's okay for them to get married
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>>131819153
Actually ephebophile if you wanna split hairs.
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>>131818750
>They had (((doctors and experts)))? that all said she was too mentally handicapped to consent, and as I pointed out he failed to rebuff any of it.
You didn't point that out at all, you mentioned it in passing and called it pedophilia, which it wasn't. Are you fit to be a juror?

>>131818450
you still havent said why she cant consent, insted you obfuscated the legal ages for sex and for porn, called it pedo and rape when by your own words it was neither. I don't think you understood what you were in charge of, you were on a socia crusade. This isn't how the legal system should work ad btw, if he had mne theres no way these charges stick. Did you ever think about the question of whether it was in fact consensual, and if the retard stuff was legit? it doesn't like you did.

I think you failed society.
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>>131819249
It wasn't ok for them to get married. She couldn't consent to that either and it was annulled by the court.
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>>131819326
>if he had money
>it doesn't sound like you did
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>>131818485
>>131818437
My parents wouldn't let me make a facebook account when it first came out, kinda glad for it now. Only social media I do is snapchat and I use my brain before I put random shit on my story or send to friends. I know that shit never truly goes away forever.
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>>131818947
So you are telling me you have never picked up a girl in a bar or a college party for a one night stand?
All guys who ever did that are potential rapist, because they didn't consult a psychologist before having sex?
And don't tell me it must be obvious because it isn't in every single case. If it was we wouldn't need psychologists in the first place.
Kike lawyers can construct all kinds of insane cases if they are paid well enough.
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>>131818300
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>>131817823
>>131817144
>>131817097
>>131816693
>>131816493
>>131816249
>>131816135
>>131816051
>>131815926
>>131815764
>>131815254
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>>131814567
>>131814498
>>131813894
Very young women are limited. You are not allowed to take women under 20 if you are over 20. War is the only exception.
You failed, find someone your own age. They should lock this guy up for the rest of his life and let him out to give talks periodically about assrape in jail to other pseudo-peds who have the same idea of taking younger women.
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>>131818807
>handicapped children
this wasnt a child, she was legal age. Jurors should think, not feel.
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>>131817097
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification
You fucking sperg.
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>>131819326
I wasn't on a crusade. I actually legit felt like the guy was just stupid unlucky until we heard all the evidence. It was clear that (a) he knew she was mentally handicapped (he said as much in one of the police interviews) and (b) he knew he shouldn't be there after the cops busted him the first time.
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>>131819818
Pffft. The guy was a scumbag. There was no reason for us to think otherwise.
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>>131819774
Please refer to
>>131819763
It is the ethical problem at hand. Young women are easy targets for older men. Older men who go after younger women do not deserve to have increased reproductive success.
Picking the lowest hanging fruit is not only shameful but reprehensible.
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>>131819875
Then you should put people in prison for legit stuff, like the time he molested that boy.
But don't create precedences that will in the end destroy the lives of many young men.
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>>131820088
It doesn't destroy the lives of young men to lock up people who go after easy prey.
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>>131819715
>So you are telling me you have never picked up a girl in a bar or a college party for a one night stand?
Yes. I've never "picked up" a girl for a one night stand. I have done things with girls, however the setting was appropriate for the action and I wouldn't have been in any legal trouble as a result.
As for your kike comment, if you want to defeat the kike, know his tricks, and know that a solid moral compass and good religious foundation can save you from most of the jew tricks.
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>>131820084
There's plenty of blame to go around. I felt the mom should've been charged with child endangerment for leaving her 17 year old mentally handicapped daughter home alone all day. She obviously wasn't following what the kid was doing if she had a dating profile.
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>>131815764
>Diddling an 8 year old boy
>8 year old boy
Yeah, I'll take things that never happened for 500 Alex.

If we learned anything from the American election it's that 8 year old boy is a liberal meme
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>>131819875
>(a) he knew she was mentally handicapped (he said as much in one of the police interviews)

This is the central/only question f his guilt or innocence, and you dot discuss it at all, you jut call the guy a pedo which he wasnt and said he raped her which he didnt.

(b) he knew he shouldn't be there after the cops busted him the first time.

No, he knew they didn't want him to be there.

Fucking seriously, too many people wh shouldnt vote vote, and too many people who shouldnt sit on a jury sit on a jury.

If you cant adequately explain this to us withouut misleading, obfuscated or lying about/not knowing what the central issue is, can't you having an honest discussion with the other jurors, or them with you or with each other.

I dont feel bad for the guy if he molested a child before but I dont think it gives the state I icense to trump up charges like this forever. And I don't want to pay for his stay in prison.
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>>131820502
Tell me more about this meme. Is it a real thing?
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>>131820502
>go to reply
>see flag
>waste of time
A FUCKING LEAF
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>>131818750
>you have very rigid rules you have to follow in deciding.
Bullshit they do. I would have nullified the fuck out of that case.
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>>131815097
>AMA

Where's the video? Did you watch them? Was she a hot potato?
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>>131813894
>The problem: she's mentally handicapped
That's redundant.
I once dated a 32 year old who fucking called me at 2:30 am crying because she had a flat tire and didn't have any idea what to do about it.
AND, she was visiting her sister in another fucking state at the time.

If you've ever had a conversation with a broad, it's blatantly obvious they're all mentally handicapped.
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>>131820084
>ethical problem at hand.
No it isn't it's a legal question. She wasn't underage, period.

>Young women are easy targets for older men
again, courts prosecute the law, it exists for a reason.
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>>131820579
Sorry, I forgot to mention how during his interrogation he said he knew she was handicapped but she seemed normal to him and he didn't know she couldn't consent. As for the second part, he shouldn't have been there after being busted. The mother owned the house and told the cops he was a trespasser. He knew he could be charged if he went back and got caught again.
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>>131820844
>If you've ever had a conversation with a broad, it's blatantly obvious they're all mentally handicapped
Duh thats why as fucking a white male youhave previlage.
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>>131820794
I dunno where the videos are now, not sure if they were kept for evidence or destroyed. Yes, they showed us some of them.
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>>131820589
Alot of Lefty's would post that something Trump did or said was emotionally scarring to their 8 year old w/e
It was always an 8 year old something and it was pretty noticeable but this was before the r/eTarD infestation got as big as it did. Now we have non stop r/eTarD PIZZAFAKE LARPing like this guy: >>131820697 among other shitty r/eTarD posts
When will you faggots integrate, you're worse than Muslims
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>>131820286
So you are basically saying that it's the guys fault if he is put into prison because he picked up the wrong feminist bitch at a college party.
That is, potentially most attractive young men have already committed this "crime", it's only that they were lucky until now.
Maybe you should join the SJW movement.

I don't care in this case about your moral values here, this is about justice. Rape is violence and women who attempt to fight the attacker off and are often traumatised.
Not bitches who regularly invite the guy over and then even marry him,
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jury nullification
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>>131820084
>Young women are easy targets for older men
what kind of faggotry is this?

my gf is 15 and im 29. best relationship ive ever had.

jealous yet faggot?
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>>131820778
Yeah, sure you would. Try leaving the basement once in a while, there's a whole big world out there to experience.
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>>131821154
Top kek, so it was a rally cry like 6 gorillions but for sjw leftists?
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>>131813894
What kind of mental handicap did she have?
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>>131817275
>Possession of criminal tools
>a fucking screwdriver

WHAT?! Let me guess, any tool can be a criminal tool if it is being used by a criminal. 10/10 logic, god bless the world.
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>>131821430
They never gave us an exact name for it. They wanted to say "retarded" but that's not PC, basically she was born that way and wouldn't ever improve according to them.
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As a 25 year old, I find even a 19 year old to be another category.. I am not a child anymore, and people like you all need to be gassed.
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>>131821430
>What kind of mental handicap did she have?
A vagina.
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>>131821583
Any tool is a criminal tool if it's being used for a crime. In this case he used it to tamper with evidence, hence the charges.
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>>131821154
>pizzafake
>who is demmink
>what is the vatican

Nice try leaf
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>>131821257
You realize you can vote any way you want on a jury, right? There are no consequences to you for doing so. Grow a fucking spine.
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>>131821633
I'm 20 and this seems impossible. How can you not find a hot 19 year old attractive?
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>>131817414
Thanks for taking the time to explain that to your fellow Redditors, you piece of shit.
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>>131821257
>Only a basement dweller would consider using jury nullification to sabotage a bullshit conviction
Cry moar statist.
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>>131821595
>basically she was born that way and wouldn't ever improve according to them.
Oh, so she can never have sex in her life without the guy being put in prison.
Sounds reasonable to me, lol
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>>131821690
How is this even a thing? It is so obviously an excuse to just add time to charges for no good reason rofl.
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>>131821812
Physically attractive, mentally repulsive. Applies to older women too, unfortunately.
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>>131821169
>potentially most attractive young men have already committed this "crime"
Thats a nigger tier statement.
Depends on what nation and year youre talking about. If you were raised under the proper circumstances, your faith and that of your partner alone would save you all the legal problems you heathen fucks make for yourselves.
Law and religion creates order for those among us which are incapable of controlling ourselves.
Seriously, think about what it means to "pick up " a college girl or a girl at a bar for a "one night stand".
Enjoy your AIDS you raging godless cock addict.
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Does it mean she's legally forbidden to have sex for the rest of her life? Damn that sucks
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>>131821951
Wtf

You don't find milfs hot either? What is wrong with you faggots
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There is no way it can be constitutional to punish non-distributed material like this. It's a breach of privacy. what if he took a phot of her nude? is that CP? He should take it to the supreme court.
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>>131821807
>>131821845
By the time we heard all the evidence I didn't think it was a bullshit conviction. There were a few people who held out on the first couple votes but the one guy (IMO) just wanted an excuse to "review" the videos a few more times.
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>>131821254
Fuck off pedo
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>>131820973
>Sorry, I forgot to mention how during his interrogation he said he knew she was handicapped
handicapped in what way, even? You've totally misrepresented the case and it keeps getting worse, every time you reply.

>but she seemed normal to him
hmmmmm

>and he didn't know she couldn't consent.
hmmm

>As for the second part, he shouldn't have been there after being busted. The mother owned the house and told the cops he was a trespasser.
So life-sentence for trespassing? What does this have to do with whether or not he committed the crime? NOTHING. It only concerns whether or not the cops and lawyers would go after him for it.

If you cant evaluate a case's legal merit without getting distracted by buzwords like pedo (which doesnt apply here), you don't have any business sitting on a jury.
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>>131820892
>it's a legal question
What predicated law, dumb dumb? Ethics.
Courts do not prosecute the law, they execute the law. It exists for a reason of course, but this doesn't mean it can't be changed to fit a better ethical standard.
>>131821254
>things that didn't happen
Romeo and Juliet doesn't even begin to cover you.
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>>131821966
Right? If she enjoyed it then she obviously doesn't have the mental age of a 10 year old, or else you would be implying 10 year olds are capable of enjoying sexual intercourse with adults and can express intent.
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>>131821699
Everyone knows the Catholics are kidfuckers but I remember when pizzafake threads started. The only people who claim pizzafake are r/eTarD immigrants.
Pizzafake was pol's answer to Hillary winning, no matter how much you nupol faggots want to deny it you would be just as bitchy and impeachy as the left is now if Hillary had won
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>>131821958
hahaha, jew LARPing as a Christian detected.
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>>131821966
Good question, would someone need to get consent from her legal guardian to fuck her?
Doesher legal guardian need to monitor the sex act for legal compliance?
What kind of bizzaro world would that be?
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>>131821101
admit it made you chub. Then you felt guilty and in turn thought he was guilty. Typical preacher morality. I'm a perv so every is a perv. tsk tsk..
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>>131821966
I have wondered about this too. I would guess that you'd have to get consert from her legal guardian (her mom in this case).
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>>131822046
What don't you understand about the words "physically attractive", exactly?

They are hot, but they are often so stupid that it's painful to be around them for more that 5 minutes.
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>>131821257
You don't possess the intellectual faculties to serve on a jury.
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>>131822171
>>131822131
stay jealous faggots

dont worry we aint fucking. she turns 16 in october and i marry her then.
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>>131822196
>stop being a nigger
>"Jew Jew Jew"
Delet /pol/ from ur computer
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>>131822196
>jew LARPing as a Christian detected.
Wtf? That statement doesn't even work.
Thats like saying faggot larping as a straight guy
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>>131815841
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>>131813894
>it's legal to sex her at 17
>it's not legal to record sexing her at 17
What meme state do you live in?
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>>131822267
Nigger please, tell me about the most intelligent women you've been around and maybe you'll convince me.
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>>131822150
YES ME BIG DUMMY SEE---OOOH SHINY
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>>131821917
>How is this a thing?
because the (((judicial system))) goes out of it's way to suppress the knowledge that the people have ultimate control over the law through the process of jury nullification. One of the quickest ways to disqualify yourself from a jury is to say those two words.

People see a blatantly bullshit charge and they go along with it, because they think the system knows better and it's their duty to go along with it. Thus blatantly bullshit charges are allowed to proliferate.
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Can a courtcase be ruled a mistrial if the defendant can show clear proof that one of the jurors was mentally retarded and a closeted nazi?
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>>131822264
Such a ruling can never be just, because even idiots will eventually want to breed.
She will do all kinds of crazy things to get it and on what basis you are going to deny her this basic freedom?
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>>131814524
your mistakes were not reading the fucking post.
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>>131822395
>jealous
We are probably (I am for sure) younger than you. You couldn't find a woman you're age so you go lower.
The worst you can do is have us follow in your footsteps.
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>>131815254
then literally no woman can consent lmao

i hope he got off
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>>131821966
>Does it mean she's legally forbidden to have sex for the rest of her life?
No. She can have as much sex as she wants, without consequence.
However, faggots like OP will happily imprison any man who helps her with it.
Maybe she can become a dyke. SJW zealots would never vote to imprison a woman for the same "crime".
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>>131821101
well? Was she hot? Slim or thicc? Shaved vagoo or unkempt?

Is she actually retarded or just unstable?
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>>131822076
You didn't think 100 years for banging a dumbass 17/18 year old was a bullshit conviction? I assume that's because you're on the same mental level as the girl and felt some sort of kinship.
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>>131822400
Everyone knows that you jews hate Christianity and will go at great lengths to discredit it.
That's why half of all stormfags are kikes.
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>>131822076
What did they do in the video? Where did he nut?
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>>131820286

Solid morals and solid advice, anon.
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>>131822548
why the fuck would i want a woman my own age idiot? turn that brain on buddy
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>>131822171
>Courts do not prosecute the law, they execute the law. It exists for a reason of course, but this doesn't mean it can't be changed to fit a better ethical standard.
It cant by changed by armchair lawyers like you. The court must judge a case BASED ON THE CURRENT LAWS i.e. they cant just decide on a whim to jail him because she's under 20 like you suggest.

-She was legal ag, period.

The only question is if she's retard and OP won't address that without prodding. He probably didnt consider it during the vote, either.
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most women are mentally handicapped.
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>>131822625
We didn't sentence him. All we did was decide yes or no did he break the law as it was presented to us. We felt he did. The judge sentenced him later based on our conviction plus his history.
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>>131822480
Women who have opinions they can actually defend. Women with whom you can have actual conversations, not just about bullshit their friends posted on Facebook. When you start looking for a wife, you'll know what I'm talking about.
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>>131822798
Bro we get it, you mad.
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>>131814033
FPBP
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>Nazi flag
>When you reply to an autistic larpers thread
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>>131822616
the truth hurts
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>>131815764
>diddling an 8 year old boy
>fucking a 17 downie girl

shit doesnt add up.
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>>131822794
He's probably a loser. Every man that has made it in life will get a younger wife.
Maybe not 20 years younger but 10-15 years sounds about right to me.
Faggots will naturally resent these men for both being successful in business and having hot wives.
That's because their genes are leaving the human gene pool
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>>131816959
You're still taking advantage of her, robbing her of 20 years of life. Dating the young only works up until about 10 years, after that the knowledge and experience you can supply is more akin to a parent than a partner
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>>131822868
Did you say whether he was guilty of each individual charge they threw at him?
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>>131821812

Because once you're about 28 you'll realize that every single thing that you do and think right now (and for the next 5 years or so) is absolutely 100% fucking retarded.

Then you'll meet girls who remind you of how retarded you were when you were 20, and you'll go "wow this bitch is fucking stupid."

I know right now to your 20 year old self you're saying, "what?! I can't believe it!" But you will see.

Doesn't mean I don't still jerk it to 19 year olds in porn, definitely hot, but not gf material. For girls, a LOT of maturity and growing up happens between about 20 and 28, when they realize they can't just party every night.
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>>131822486
see
>>131822307
You're discussing irrelevant issues throughout the thread. I dont think you understood the legal question yo were ruling on.

Stupid people shouldn't make decisions like these.
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>>131817205
this is why i come to /pol classic
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>>131823084
Yes convicted on all of it. He appealed it all and lost that as well.
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>>131822666
>Everyone knows that you jews hate Christianity and will go at great lengths to discredit it.
So let me make sure I understand you correctly. Your telling me that larping as a moralfag I discredit moralfags by making statements like "following traditonal Christian values will save you from the perils of vice and sin"?
Are you clinically retarded?
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>>131822971
Yeah, Im mad that idiots like you can vote and sit on juries.
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>>131821583
If you and a friend rob a store and your friend dies for whatever reason they'll charge you for that murder even if nobody else died or got hurt and you were unarmed.

Yes, the criminal system exists now to send as many people away for as long as possible for every little reason they can find. It has something to do with politicians always promising to be tough on crime because it's an easy (bad) solution to the tough problem of shitty demographics and for profit prisons advocating wanting more profit.
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>>131823140
Maybe not, but we do every day. Scary ain't it?
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>>131814948
>guilty
of poor genetic, both of them should be sterilized for the good of the gene pool.
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>>131822792
Thanks. I have know idea what that other anon is talking about.
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>>131823061
>Kekistani flag
>Supporting OP
Arts and crafts
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>>131823052
Same age marriage is one of the biggest bullshit tricks ever put on society. there is nothing natural about it. It only started when people was stuffed on schools and colleges.
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>>131823350
if only the your npot my peers defence worked
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>>131823228
So what you're saying is you had no idea that he would be slapped with a massive sentence when you judged him guilty of 40 different charges?

My previous suspicions seem correct, and you most likely need your parents' permission if you ever want to legally have sex.
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>>131816132
Those of us who were around when the net first started fall in this catagory born in 70's-80's .it was years before anyone would even consider entering a credit card number online.
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>>131823126
And I tell you from my perspective as a someone in his mid thirties who thought the same way you did.
Once you are successful in life you will want a women that will be a housewife, not some used up bitch that thought a career would be the best thing in life.
You will find this with women who are around 20.
At 25 the good ones are all married and the others have decided to go down the career path and ride the cock carousel while in college.
You don't want the latter, they will be bad wives and rob you in the end.
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>>131817190
Did you miss the part where he had a prior conviction of fucking an 8 year old boy?

He fucked up, did time, was "reformed" then pulled this shit. Even if it's a legal technicality it goes to show what a desperate and motivated fuck he is in OUR society.

Have fun in Europe snownigger
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>>131815097
how long did the trial last?
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>>131820286
That and video taping the bitch begging for a load in the face makes for great "gotcha" moments with that final evidence timing
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>>131822906
Idktf bro, I'm pretty good at getting people interested in the things I'm interested in. So just curious, would you find it morally repulsive if a my future 30 year old self got an 18 year old wife?

>>131823126
In my experience, single women over 25 are emotional dumpsters and I refuse to deal with that. Also nice reddit spacing faggot

>>131823569
this guy is actually wise, take notes
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i was on a jury the last couple of weeks and one of the other jurors was unironically somewhat retarded. what would have been called a 'simpleton' back in the day. it's crazy who they let on these things.
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>>131823482
Yes, that's what I said. We asked the judge during jury instructions how much time he could get and were told that we weren't allowed to consider that.
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>>131823482
>So what you're saying is you had no idea that he would be slapped with a massive sentence when you judged him guilty of 40 different charges?
Fucking THIS.

OP doesnt just have poor judgement, he doesnt think at all.
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>>131823612
>then pulled this shit.
What exactly did he pull? Are you equating fucking an 8 year old boy with fucking a mentally sub-par (ie. normal) but completely willing 17 year old woman?
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>>131823612
I missed it when I made that particular post but you are still setting a fucked up precedent for destroying the lives of many other young men.
If you want to put someone like him in prison then do it for molesting the boy, not for this bullshit.
Stupid women running on feels rule that way.
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>>131823624
Couple weeks. It was amazingly repetitive.
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men who marry women aged 28+ are all fucked up mommas boys who cant train or control a woman. they basically need a mommy.
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>>131815254
>she had the mentality of a 10 year old
so in other words, shes a woman
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>>131823850
>What exactly did he pull?
The modern juror like the modern voter doesnt think about questions like these.

All men are not created equal.
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>>131815764
That doesn't make any sense. Muh cop dramas told me that pedophiles are extremely preferential and only fuck their specific age-preference and never cross gender lines.
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>>131817275
>screwdriver
>criminal tool
???
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>>131815828
>If only they put that much energy into investigating real pedophile networks that (((they))) run
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>>131823612
>Diddling an 8 year old
Becomes
>Flat out fucking an 8 year old
What next r/eTarD meme team? The convicted actually kidnapped the kid, locked him up and raped him for a year to make him a child sex slave

Come on then?
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>>131823995
bro that sounds mature and you know it shes basicaly a well travled grandma with a wisdom most women can never atain
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>>131823891
a couple of weeks to get through 40 charges? how many hours a day were you usually in there?
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>>131821101

DEETS!
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>>131824077
See
>>131821690
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>>131823808
>were told that we weren't allowed to consider that.
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>>131815889
>Age of consent is a meme
like the right to not have your neighbor roast you on a bonfire.
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>>131823052
true

no one has batted an eye yet, probably because i am a millionaire. her parents are happy for us.

the same reason nobody gave a shit when 34 year old paul walker was dating some 16 y/o hs girl. alphas cant "take advantage" of (((underage))) girls because they bring everything to the table already (looks, money, status). its the losers who try and impress girls with their shitty 87 civic that we need to look out for.
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>>131823808
So how long did you think he would get for 40 fucking charges? A couple weeks in prison and a month of picking up litter in the local park?
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>>131815520
>but her mother was forcing her to
that literally sums up the entire case. the mom is pissed and blaming the guy for her daughters slutty behavior. nothing illegal here, just some bitchy mom who cant handle her goody two shoes now takes the cock on the regular
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>>131823452
>>131823052
You're idiots. Young women for young men. Marrying a young woman when you're old only shows you failed at finding a woman when you were young.
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Did he penetrate the 8 year old boy or did he diddle him as in groped him?
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>>131824179
8-9 hours a day plus 1/2 hour lunch.
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>>131823995
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>>131824254
t. Pedo
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Guilty. She is under 18 so max sentence and registeration as a sex offender
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>>131821633

25 and 19? That's not too bad actually. Half your age is 12.5. Add 7, you get 19.5. I'd say it's fair game to round down, so 19 should be the youngest you date.
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>>131823808
I have a serious question. let's say you had just said "no way i'm convicting this guy. you guys might as well go home". how would that have hurt you?
1. would you have felt bad that he was free?
2. would have gotten shit from people?
3. would it have meant that you possible would have had to spend more time on the jury?

personally i think you just didn't want to spend the time and the minimal human effort in saving this innocent man. it's faggots like you that has allowed the constitution and america to get ripped apart. You would probably convict somebody of not paying income tax. George W. would have slapped you in the face if he read this thread.
SAD!
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>>131824211
It really wasn't much to see. Couple of 5 minute clips, she looked bored/distracted and he was super pervy.
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>>131813894
Is 17 legal? Also how handicapped? Like actually u able to take care of herself? Or the mother wants to go to court and try to get it determined that she cannot take care of herself.
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>>131824358
sounds like your system is much more efficient than ours. we are only in court five hours a day maximum (usually less because of delays).
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Pedophilia is a mental illness. Pedophiles that have commit no crime should be shunned and excluded from society. Child rapists should be executed immediately.

There is nothing biologically wrong with attraction to females capable of ovulation and breeding. That said there is at least some evidence to suggest females breeding as early as 11 can threaten the life of the child and the mother, for this reason I support the age of consent remaining at 16, since most females will be able to safely breed by this point. Though we should strive to build a society free of whores and premarital sex so that AoC laws are not necessary.

Females should be trained to manage a house and raise children their entire lives, and they should begin meeting potential husbands when they get their first period.

Premarital sex is degenerate in 99.9% of cases and the only exceptions I'd say are those that are virgins that give each other their virginity and then get married.

Allow me to reiterate: Pedophilia is a mental illness such as Homophilia or foot or scat fetishists(Thought foot and scat are less extreme and pose less of a threat) and they should not be allowed to participate in society. Those Pedophiles that abuse pre-pubescent children are irredeemable trash that deserve nothing but death.

Hebephilia is perfectly natural and attraction to females capable of producing eggs to be fertilized is not comparable to attraction to pre-pubescents. While this is true, it isn't generally healthy to breed until the female is around 16, so she should wait until she is that age and married.

Lastly and perhaps most importantly: Adolescents should be marrying adolescents, not old failures(If this upset you, I am talking about you.)

>b-but children can consent!
>b-but women deserve freedom!
>b-but I'm a Sodomite!
>b-but my feelings!
You deserve to be crucified.
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>>131824287
or that you like young womans mayb less jaded about life and with less baggage and less miles of cock
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>>131817097
he had a shitty lawyer. the dates on digital files are meaningless and depend completely on how someone sets up their camera and computer clock. it could have easily been argued by a competent lawyer
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>>131816219
I only meet girls in bookstores.
It's easy, you just have to smile, look their dad in the eye and give him a firm handshake.
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>>131824307
Grabbed the kid's junk while he rubbed one out is what they told us
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>>131823774
>would you find it morally repulsive if a my future 30 year old self got an 18 year old wife?
Of course not. The ideal is having a young AND intelligent wife. The problem, of course, is that most young women are dumb as a bag of hammers. And that's only taking into account intelligence, not upbringing or values. Shit ain't easy.
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>>131824287
Your some pirate huh.
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>>131824605
pasta alert
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>>131815520
>His defense was that she didn't tell him about her handicap and he couldn't tell by talking to her. Honestly, I couldn't really tell while she was testifying.

contradicts what you said he aid earlier,, about him knowing she was handicapped. Are you handicapped?

She seemed shy, and I got the sense that she didn't want to participate in any of this but her mother was forcing her to

/thread
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>>131824655
He presented little to no defense. Barely any cross, and he didn't testify. Public defenders.
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>>131819763
>You failed, find someone your own age
uh what are you talking about. In all of human history young guys are worthless because they lack experience and value. That why rich old dude get to fucking bang out super models.
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>>131824254
not guilty by reason of single mom
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>>131817097
>couldn't consent
explain how this works to me. at what point is someone considered to be too mentally incompetent to consent? is she allowed to vote and sit on juries?
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>>131824428
No, you retarded hebo-pedo. Dating under 20 is reserved for under 20s. After it that it's fair game. We have to drawn the line between kid and adult somewhere and 20 is the best cutoff.
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>>131814815
17 is child porn. Unknown what the judge will do though. Technically two 16 year old kids fucking and recording it are each guilty of rape and child porn. But the state mostly ignore underage with underage. Still technically law though.
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>>131824493
I didn't say that though. He wasn't innocent, and I had no lingering doubts about it.
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>>131824605
fuck off, asshat. I'm 23 and would have refused to get married at 16. I wasn't sexually attracted to anyone until I was 19.5
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>>131822076
wait, you guys got to watch the video?
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>>131815764
>100 years for fucking a 17 year old
kek.

I welcome death
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>>131819308

>split hairs

You mean part the hair.
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>>131815841
LUL
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>>131824947
You're low T and likely grew up without a father or with a weak one.
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>>131817221
>Nobody is wasting resources prosecuting guys for banging 17 year olds in consensual relationships

in New York they fucking do, Wisconsin also,
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Why can't ya let my boy get his nut?
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>>131824077
Lockpicks aren't illegal, screwdriver isn't illegal, gun isn't illegal(depending on locality). If yer carrying all these creeping around a neighborhood looking for a place to rob, all of a sudden criminal tools.
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>>131815489
17 is legal is a lot of states for sex though recording it is not.
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>>131824493
>George W. would have slapped you in the face if he read this thread.
Actually, George Washington had no problems killing people over bullshit federal taxes. Jefferson would be a better example.
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>>131822792
>>131823409
bretty sure hes talking about not being a beta picking up girls at a party is normal not even chad behavior
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>>131824287
Oh I did, but I didn't have what it takes to build a good home for a family when I was 18. (like most men at this age)
You've got to work hard for quite some time until you are able to do your job as a husband - provide.
I worked hard, I built a business and now I can do this job.
So this is somehow wrong? It'd have been better if I knocked up some women when I was 18 (with very limited knowledge) and just crossed my fingers that it'll work out somehow?
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>>131815097
>comes to see us

Wew lad
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>>131824911

The line between kid and adult is 18. Beyond that, the only rule that should be used to determine whether someone is too old/young is the tried and true half age plus 7.
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>>131824947
>I wasn't sexually attracted to anyone until I was 19.5
I call bs
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>>131824959
Not all of it, a few clips they picked.
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>>131825028
I'm female, you faggot
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>>131819177
>A guy picking up a girl cannot know if she has some psychological issue.

he knows she is a woman
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>>131813894
sorry flaggot, he's not a pedophile that woman is not a child
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>>131825176
tits or lying
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>>131824899
this

is every sexual encounter involving her rape? does the guy she fucks have to be approved by her parents? does the guy she fuck have to be as retarded or more retarded as her?
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>>131825176
Tits and timestamp or fuck off.
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>>131824815
Bro you're still here? I get it, you're Johnny fuckin' Cochrane.
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>>131824947

That just means you're low-T. Sorry. Talk to your doctor.
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>>131825139
well, I didn't want sex until I was 19.5
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>>131821633
spoken like a true child people are different
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>>131817097
>The law is pretty cut and dried - under 18 is illegal and the original video files were all dated from when she was 17. It came down to whether we accepted his excuse
So he wasnt convicted for violating the law, he was convicted for not charming the jurors.

But he didnt just 100 just for the porn, he got it for the 40 charges you convicted him of like this one
>screwdriver a criminal weapon
FUCK NO

You still dont know what you convicted him of, what charges were cut/dry, or whether she truly was retard.
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>>131824947
>I wouldn't do it, therefore no-one should do it
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>>131824612
Exactly, women so pure and perfect belong men who are the same.
>>131824605
Keep your old man hands off my women.
Your socially free society is the very thing which produces degeneracy and the need for age of consent laws.
>>131824880
Super models aren't young. 25 isn't young. 20 is young. 16-17-18-19 is young.
>inexperienced and without value
What the fuck kind of a modernist shithole county do you live in?
Round these parts you're a man when your 15. Keep the young with the young, beyond that it doesn't matter.
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>>131824228
What could such a wive desire more from a husband, provided he isn't some abusive guy?
She can live a carefree life, having as many babies as she desires and be around them to see them grow as much as she wants.
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>>131824944
so if you had saved him you would have felt bad because you let a CP producer go? really?
You just wanted to go home and you were probably to much of a bitch to say your opinion. you were intimidated by the female jurors.
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>>131825342
this thread is a perfect example of why juries are so shit
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>>131825360
>no reading comprehension
I didn't say that. I simply said I wouldn't get married at 16
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>>131825176
Yeah, I'd imagine it's pretty hard to get yourself going when you're surrounded by leaf cucks rather than actual males
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>>131825342
He shouldn't have had the book thrown at him. But it certainly wasn't because he didn't charm anyone. Or maybe it was, if the guy is an objective drag upon the social order he should be done away with.
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>>131825367
>Keep your old man hands off my women.
>Adolescents should be marrying adolescents, not old failures(If this upset you, I am talking about you.)
Biggest age difference I would allow would be my daughter(16) marrying a man in his early 20s.
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>>131813894
What do we live in the Stone age? Her body yet choice.
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>>131825367
your an idiot they dont belong to anyone is your scared of older men stealing a girl you like your beta af and if an older man does meet a younger wonman and they get on its there business
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>>131825550
That's still horrendous but less so. The guy OP was talking about was more than 30 years older than the girl.
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>>131825099
welly ou get my point. Imagine explaining this case to the founding father. they would probably agree that most women are retarded.
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>>131825604
old men are fucking nasty.
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>>131825108
>party
College parties and bars arent your co-workers five year old kid's birthday party
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>>131825550
why? what about 30 and 55?
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>>131825419
They guy had plenty of chances to save himself. All he had to do was refuse to talk to the cops and he'd be walking around free today. By the time he got to us it was too late.
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>>131825679
While I don't agree with it and wouldn't allow my daughter to make such a choice, what two adults do is their business in my eyes.
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>>131825472
Sure is.

Plebs shouldnt serve on juries or vote, this assumption that anyone can do it is plain wrong. Society needs to be TIERED.
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>>131825772
I want my grandchildren to be born of viable sperm, furthermore a man that old without a wife obviously has very serious problems.
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>>131825367
Your a young pure pirate? change your flag homo.
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>>131825604
>your beta af
So I'll have to acquire a younger girl when I am older? You're fucking yourself over by calling me a beta because old unmarried men are the ones who already lost.
It's simple, if you aren't sexually successful when you are young you shouldn't have access to the most fertile women. Why would someone want beta genes to be propagated simply because the betas are beta enough to wait for easier targets? That's stupid and it's how society dies.
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>>131825721
most girls think this way im a yound dude myself and have never had a girl leave me for older guys even though many of them have had lots of intrest from people who made waaay more money than me your massively niavie if people like or love eachother let it be
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>>131825534
You dont know what he was convicted of either.
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>>131825367
The fact is that women choose mates who are higher status then them, and seeing as it takes time for a man to build status, it makes sense that women in their prime fertile years will look a few years above themselves. That's why in the old stories the knight would rescue the young fertile virgin. It's always been that way, even if its annoying when you're young to see the hottest girls your age get with older guys. It's nice to finally be 20+ and be on the other side of that at least
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>>131825732
sory but if i pick up a consenting adult at a kids birthday party how does that matter?
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>>131825907
please change your flag to LGBT if your gonna be such a fag.
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>>131825864
naw i get you i just mean at what point does what you think stop mattering and what our daughter thinks start i got nothing against what your saying at all just playing devil advocate
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>>131822453
the entire world

Imagery or videos of sexual conduct with an individual below 18 years of age is child pornography, Period.
the conduct itself is case by case in most places
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>>131825785
Women aren't adults till their 25. Men aren't adults till their 20.
Men are responsible when they are 15. Women aren't responsible.
>>131825887
Danskr is mad. The most successful pirate was young, pure, and pastor.
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>>131819763
Your bait sucks and your reply-to-(You) ratio is garbage
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>>131826157
Women are never adults, I was referring to the man she would marry and her father when I said "two adults".
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>>131826127
if he was smart he would have said he filmed it only to prove she consented.
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>>131816132
I'm an old-fag.
I remember my mother told me, never write anything down you won't stand by should someone find it. In this age, that means never write anything or make an image/video of yourself, unless you accept it could go viral.
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>>131825907
the reason younger women marry older men is because the older men have worked, contributed to society, and have the resources to show for it. how are the genes of productive, hard-working men damaging society? those are the guys who should be having more children.
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>>131825907
t. an autist so i fuck girls my entire life when i want to settle down the girl i happen to meet is 20 im now 35 whats the beef? ur scared and beta that you will loose out on ates to older men thats because ur beta picking a rich old guy over a young alpha has nver happend with a yound girl
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>>131826011
The goal is to meet someone worthy of spending the rest of your life with, and it's best if that's done through friends or your church group.
I f you dont known why, youre likely going to end up a divorce stat
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>>131826327
This desu. The guy deserves prison just for being a dumbass.
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>>131825849
Exactly, the jury system is utterly fucking retarded. I would rather have a panel of judges, say three, high IQ only, male only, white only, who are seriously educated and intelligent in the relevant matters. Not twelve fucking retarded plebs with "average" IQs (subhuman), some of whom are female (emotional thinking), deciding my fucking fate.
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>>131826486
cant into dateing you dont mary a girl when you meet them
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the ultimate irony here is that because of all the moral outrage and legal action over a 'cp' video of a 17 year old is that 12 jurors had to watch cp that otherwise wouldn't have been seen by anybody except the 'perpetrator' and 'victim'
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>>131826523
>Exactly, the jury system is utterly fucking retarded. I would rather have a panel of judges, say three, high IQ only, male only, white only, who are seriously educated and intelligent in the relevant matters. Not twelve fucking retarded plebs with "average" IQs (subhuman), some of whom are female (emotional thinking), deciding my fucking fate.

That would be so much fucking better.
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>>131826571
That is why parents should arrange marriages and raise their children together to be married sometime in adolescence.
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>>131826441
There's nothing wrong with that. You have probably worked hard, you'll be able to provide now a good home and that's exactly what women want.
A good home where they can raise their children.
Not some 18 year old boy hoping that he'll somehow make it. (although there are always exceptions of course)
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>>131826523
I think we should just build the Quintessons
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>>131826401
>productive and hardworking genes
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>>131824130
Oh so now there's levels of pedophelia? Whats the next stage levels of acceptable pedophelia and non acceptable levels?

Fuck off you cunty little apologist
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>>131825954
What do you mean? We know what the jury concluded and what the evidence was, not hard to put two and two together.
>>131825959
That's not how women are, that's a very reduced and generalistic perspective. Women seek love, adventure, and affection. Status is such a meme. Whores go for status, that's why army wives are sluts.
It's not so much that it's annoying, which it can be if your unlucky enough to lose your crush or whatever. But the more significant aspect is that it's a different category of male intruding on another male's categorical territory simply because it's easy. There are plenty of women who are better at 20 than they are at 18. 18 is more ideal because they are more naive and easier to go after. It's not because of some evolutionary drive, evolution isn't that specific, men will fuck anything and the younger the women the better, but under 25 there's really no difference aside from ease of access.
If you'll remember the stories the knight is always himself quite young. No damsel wants an old hero that could be her father.
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>>131816980
Damn, son.
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>>131822531
We have really poor reading comprehension in Spanish, we find written English to be extra challenging because of these words we can't wrap our minds around
(our schools are shit on average, teachers are obsessed with grammar and they usually don't care if we can't tell literature from pop music)
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>>131826523
Jury of your peers friendo
if your peers has turned into something undesirable, you be fucked
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>>131826768
Go away jew.
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>>131826712
your a walking divorce stat you date a girl to see if your compatible can take as long as you want your litterly ignorant to dateing i meet a girl and a party any kind of party date for a year setlle down in your world thats a divorce stat you meet a girl then mary here aranged marrige kek gl being hcheated on your entire life because you wife is repulsed by you
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>>131826768
>What do you mean? We know what the jury concluded and what the evidence was, not hard to put two and two together.
But you cant do that. You say it was a just conviction becuase anyone under 20 shouldnt be with anyone over 40. Hes directly quoted saying it wasnt about the crime, but whether the jurors liked the guy, and then you act like he never said that. You dont have logical faculties and noone like you or OP should ever sit on a jury.
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>>131815764
Should have got the death penalty.
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>>131826970
I'm already married for 11 years, but you have no idea what you're talking about and your poor English skills don't represent your "argument" either.
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>>131824670
Bookshops, library, museum, zoo, grocery.
Quality bitches.

If u wanna fuck sluts go to the bar
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>>131826712
no serious father would set up this retarded coin flip for the rest of his daughters life.

why would you ever marry your daughter off to someone with unproven prospects?
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>>131826571
>marry when you meet them
Where did i say that? Read my older posts >>131818947
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>>131827181
well your arguing for arranged marriage so my limited skills are more than enough 11years is nice im happy for you but your argument is retarded expecting your parents to know whats right for you expecting the girl to like you expecting to like the girl what here is superior to consentual xdateig of somebody you meet lutterly nothing your move senpai
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>>131816613
>just the filming was illegal
Well, what is it you don't understand about the conviction then?
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>>131826105
>keeping my women away from your nursing home makes me a fag
Kys Halfdan.
>>131826179
I was replying to the same guy.
>>131826289
So you don't even want an objective social structure?
You're letting society cuck you.
>>131826401
The guys who should be having more children aren't the guys who wait, that would lead to lower birth rates. It should be the guy who is productive, hardworking, and getting married young to pump out lots of children.
Those are objectively the best genes.
>>131826441
I don't care if they are 20. Why are you getting defensive if the women you're going after are 20?
>because ur beta
Like men who need to rely on money to get women?
I don't expect men in their 30s to be pure on their wedding night, if they aren't they don't deserve someone who is.
Society falls apart when the family falls apart. Virgins are rare, why make them rarer?
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>>131823850
Yes the age is in the range of DO THIS AND YOU ARE FUCKED. Disregarding the difference in age/gender you still fall in the level of Do Not Do This or You Are Fucked. Then he does it and tries to play the jury with a prior conviction of similar/worse circumstances. This guy obviously needs to be kept away from the rest of society, arguing any different just makes me think that you don't want that door closed in case you take it some day.

The US has very clear laws on how we feel about fucking under the age limit, disregard them and see how we feel about exacting punishment on those that break those laws.
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>>131827344
>coin flip
Raising children is not a coin flip unless you're a retard that doesn't know how to raise children, in which case you shouldn't be breeding in the first place.
>why would you ever marry your daughter off to someone with unproven prospects?
I would have to trust the proven prospects of the father of the boy marrying my daughter and I would be watching his upbringing and be making judgements for years before the planned marriage, which can by all means be canceled.
>>131827405
>expecting your parents to know whats right for you
Parents are the ones that raise you, they should know you better than anyone. I don't believe in forced arranged marriages, so maybe that is hurting your feelings. The final say is with the parties being married, that should go without saying.
>>131827479
>So you don't even want an objective social structure?
When did I say that?
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>>131827479
i wasnt talking about virgins were im from there extinct not rare and a girl isnt going to mary a 30yr old for money is shes a virgin and not a hambeast virgin and goodlooking +good personality implies massive amounts of morality why would they mary for money and status are they jewish?
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>>131826581
>le Reddit irony
You know that's the same logic of the "why murder murderers if murder is wrong?" Meme.
>>131826964
You first, pedo.
>>131827154
Two and two was that the jury didn't like him because of the evidence presented. That's not an unreasonable assumption. The guy was also convicted of another crime before this so it's not like he didn't know he was playing with fire. You're searching for a legal loophole when commonlaw and basic ethics have you shut down.
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Well this thread got retarded quick. The system ain't perfect but it's better than most the crazy shit ya'll suggest we should do.
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>>131827685
well its a fair point but you are clearly very lucky i promise you large portions of society do not feel the way you feel about there parents
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>>131827777
Nice quads. They're naive. If they aren't virgins then I don't care, carry on.
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>>131827903
The majority of society is retards like you, I don't expect them to feel or think as I do, I simply want them to stop using the state to violate my right to raise and build my dynasty as I see fit.
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>>131824859
What's the guy's name? Surely it's not top secret classified information.
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>>131827923
2017 virgin + naive its a fair point but there clearly educated on the family unit religion and the sanctity of marriage id give them more credit
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>>131827685
>coin flip
i meant as in the outcome of marrying her off to some random

arranged marriage is un-european as fuck. its completely dysgenic when you dont let society sort it self organically. europeans are europeans because we allow our women to select mates based on their instinct and biology, and not forcing hot girls into marriages with balding losers.
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>>131827685
You said that before but I don't feel like finding it so I'll explain how you said it again here.
>>131828037
You're defense of your dynasty is that you wish for freedom from social charges. This would mean a lack of objective social structure. You're idea could work in a self contained aristocratic society, which wealthy society is somewhat akin to. But you won't prosper with the plebs.
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>>131828216
>some random
Read my posts, idiot.
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>>131827918
Look i can't be fucked getting into this clusterfuck and reply to all these fucks. Like no shit the system needs reform but people here are proposing no good ideas.
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>>131823870
But he did both, that's the point. He has a history of predatory behavior and was apparently obviously in need of some sort of remedy, be it isolation or counselling or both. A 48 year old fucking a 17 year old in the US is considered a huge deal, women are fucking children till they're mid twenties but due to equality are afforded the same rights at the same age. Even an 18 year old fucking a 17 year old is a big deal here, there's a line drawn and crossing it is a choice you will have to live with if you're dumb enough to get caught.

Smart people don't get caught, and the dumb predators do the real damage.
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>>131828037
very heartless annon, very greedy, your actual jewish. i wont hold it against you. i hope you do well. that or you are larping fyi if ore people also i wish they were
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>>131827811
>you've been debunked
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>>131826768
>That's not how women are
yeah it is.It's biology. You are starting to sound like a women right now actually

>Women seek love, adventure, and affection.
Yeah a well established older male can give them that. Young guys cant because they are not. Only young guys that are getting it are rich kids and genetically gifted guys

>Status is such a meme
no. If you are on the low end of the totem pole. You will get as such. If you have high status and at the top of the pole you get all the prime pussy. Again biology.
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>>131828296
>Read my posts, idiot.

>>131826712
>That is why parents should arrange marriages and raise their children together to be married sometime in adolescence.

>>131827685
>I don't believe in forced arranged marriages

plz be less confusing; how is an arranged marriage not forced?
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>>131819763
Shut up, you're clearly wrong, a young girl is lucky to be courted by an older man and you should honestly think about what it would be like for you to be locked up in jail. The parents cant speak for her and she said she invited him over and the girl seems to be fine with it. You should shut the hell up because you should think about what its like for you to get assraped in jail. Assrape doesn't even happen in jail anyways but you sound like you have a very poor understanding of the scenario. The guy is fine they should let him go.

>>131813894

It sounds like you should let him go, he should be told that the law currently states that you cant film under 18 naked but that could be changed to sixteen pretty easily. The girls family and doctors could still be lying about disease but doctors should always tell the truth. To be honest in the end his actions didn't hurt anybody and the girl has no problem with it, it didn't even start with her so why is the guy even in trouble, honestly what harm does CP do in the end anyways, girl has had basically very little done to her.

>>131815898
I would say that was a good choice to leave her before.
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>>131828250
I guess you're right in a way. I don't want to live in a society so ignorant and backwards that they fall for Communist tricks and breed in their 30s and 40s and let their daughters philander and roam about fucking niggers.

I don't think I want a lack of social structure, I just want to live in a society of intelligent(white) people free of Marxism.
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>>131825367
you sound like a totally crazy bitch, old men are the strength of society. Honestly please stop posting or expressing yourself.
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>>131828611
>The final say is with the parties being married, that should go without saying.
You're clinically retarded. If our children oppose the idea of marriage, which they will have been clued into and taught would happen for years prior to the actual marriage, then obviously we as the parents fucked up somewhere and we have to accept the wishes of our children and offer the best advice we can to help them pursue other romantic interests.
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>>131828327
>A 48 year old fucking a 17 year old in the US is considered a huge deal
Actually in his state it is fully legal. You dont know what he was convicted of like the other SJWs here but you think you can have an opinion on it. The jurors were probably just like you, that's the problem.
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