How do we deal with the NatSOC problem on /pol/?

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>>131439391
Very true. Right-wing libertarianism is definitely a superior ideology. Idk how we rid them

>>131439391
>implying NS is marxist socialism
>fashwave
who the fuck listens to that? 2 "kekistani" niggers on here?
That bottom right slide is still true with a strong leader.

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Recognize the JWO or be a slave for eternity. There is no cure but National Socialism.

>>131439597
>rid them
You don't.
I am here to rub my sweaty penis in your face and dump my fascist load in your eye forever.

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>>131439391
National Socialism is one of the very origins of /pol/. Only a newfag would deny this fact. Besides, these strawmans are highly inaccurate, are you even trying? You're obviously trying to shitpost about an ideology that you haven't even taken one attempt at understanding.

>>131439597
I go to /nsg/ alot when they make one. Just make fun of them and call out their leftist ideology for what it is. I think we're making progress because I haven't seen one in a week.

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fuck off nazis

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>>131440110
>samefagging
definitely newfag
/pol/ is natsoc, deal with it faggot

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leftists should not be welcome on pol

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>>131440856
I like that image anon

>hurr durr im a national socialist lets kill niggers
>lmao FREE HEALTHCARE? what are you a commie

Those libertarians think we should just accept capitalism or we're communists lmao, fuck these jews.

>>131440856
saved

Sage. Gtfo

>>131442129
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>>131439391
Just leave them alone; the jews will get rid of them. Then the muzzies and niggers the jews imported will tear the jewish order down around them. Then the mindful, property-owning and defensively armed and fortified ancaps win.

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It's simple you let the free market solve your problem

>>131439391
We need to gas the Nazis

Fucking hate these stormniggers shitting up the board

>>131442520
even recreational nuclear bombs won't save you, faggot.

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>>131439391
The usual. Mocking and ridicule, and posting their pictures.

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>>131442119
Capitalism and Bolshevism are the two sides of the same international Jewish coin.

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>>131442694
>everyone I don't like is a jew

>>131439391
hitler pls stop me from sucking dicks

>>131439391
Nice try shills. Fucking saged and hidden

>>131442736
We need to step it up then

>>131439391
We stop dividing and conquering natsocs and ancaps. I'm on to you Shekelstein

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>>131442888
For the most part, you're right! Some of the main contributors to capitalism and communism have been kikes, as demonstrated in the last pic of famous capitalists

How do we deal with "Informed Folks LOL" problem?

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>>131439391
Who gives a fuck about left and right? I'll live under socialism, small government or monarchy just as long as ethnostate is achieved and the Jewish question is resolved

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>>131440052
>>131440856
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>>131442806

Pic related.

>>131442888
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>>131439391
Germany is dead and so is NatSoc. Trying to convert white non germans into natsoc doesnt really make sense and will only attract the lowest of the low.
Fascism is the only viable option. Its much easier for right leaning normie to convert to fascism than natsoc.

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>>131443248
>AnComs, Democrats, Fags
>Civilized discussion
>Pick one

Get these shill memes outta here

>>131443270
t. No empire

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>>131443060
Just go join Antifa you fucking socialist scum

You both hate capitalism and want to destroy society

>>131440052
t. newfaf larping as an oldfag

/pol/'s origins are classic liberalism you dumb fucking cunt

>>131443517
This

Stormniggers need to be purged

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>>131443408
Lmao read a book

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>>131443270
>>fascism than natsoc

>implies a significant difference

>>131439391
True /pol/ always called out stormfaggots. Just because we both hate neo libs doesnt mean we are true allies. Nazi scum are just as bad as sjws and neo conservatives.

>>131443517
>/pol/'s origins are classic liberalism you dumb fucking cunt
No thats just leaf

>>131443397

They're significantly represented in academia, you know, where it matters.

>>131442938
Don't we always? We're the laziest fucks sometimes.

>>131442806
It takes someone reeeeal special to jerk it to a failed regime 70 years after it got fucking destroyed by everyone on the planet for how shitty it was.

You must like negative attention or are just dumb as shit

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>>131443650
>True /pol/ always called out stormfaggots. Just because we both hate neo libs doesnt mean we are true allies. Nazi scum are just as bad as sjws and neo conservatives.

This.

>>131443270
Fascism and natsoc is both closet leftist garbage.

>>131443650
>Nazi scum are just as bad as sjws and neo conservatives.

They're even worse because they spam this board with their bullshit constantly, while at least the SJWs know their place

>>131443248
>i disagree with you therefore i will post this image that makes you look like a retard pooping on everyone else

>>131443517
that's not true though
/pol/ was literally created when /new/ went full natsoc

>>131443673
Okay? Not sure how that's a response to what I said about them not having civilized discussions. Not like there's a lot of their kind here anyways

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>>131442888
that meme image is more anti /pol/ than stormfront.
also murdoch murdoch isnt quality content? i wont bother calling you a kike but you're alt-light at best. In which case this image is fitting.

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>>131439592
Sounds correct.

>>131443592
Nazis haven't read one book in there lives. They think they can fix shit by turning the US and Europe into Venezuela

>>131443888
Wah wah poor Nazi nigger gets called out and is mad now

Go ask daddy Hitler for more gibs

>>131443970
Those guys got murdered, though.

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>>131443974
What was that?

>>131443919
>Socialism isn't socialism

dumbfuck

>>131444068
Nope.
Some of us are still around.

Granted, Integralism is an option.

>>131444117
If you were literate you would have been a libertarian by now newfag

>>131443981
>u mad bro?
someones underage.

btw if you're gonna sperg out aboutnazis why dont you make some arguments? give me one good reason why i should be a lolbertarian.

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>>131439391
Heil HITLER , you fucking faggot. KYS ASAP joo

>>131444229
Hitler fanboys will murder you again.

>>131444140
I guess North Korea is democratic because it says so in the title

Fucking simpleton

>>131444140
Socialism existed before Marx adopted the term. Socialism and Marxian Socialism i.e. Communism are entirely seperate things.

I'll let Adolf explain:
>“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency.
>Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.”

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>>131444140
See pic related

>>131444254
Used to be one, actually. Until I realized race was important and how the influence of Jews is hurting our civilization

N A T U R A L O R D E R

>>131444381
If it says so then it is faggot

>>131439391
>hehe, I a priorily deemed that everyone who disagrees with me is a leftist, and I will invent anything to label any one as such so they can be forcibly removed!
>arguing whether a system is moral or a moral
>(see first line again; replace leftist with communist)

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>>131443848
>>i disagree with you therefore i will post this image that makes you look like a retard pooping on everyone else

Pic related.

>>131443871
>Not sure how that's a response to what I said about them not having civilized discussions.

The most civilized discussions have academic sources underpinning them. The only sources to have any significantly credibility whatsoever require it. This is where you stormfaggots run into so much trouble. Your shit just isn't credible.

> Not like there's a lot of their kind here anyways

You must be new here.

>>131444503
So I can vote in North Korea? Wow, what a free, democratic paradise! I'm happy to see that their leader, Kim Jong Un, was democratically elected!

>>131444443
>I'm so shallow I think my skin color is important

ftfy

>>131444229
>>131444341
Yeah that version isnt welcome. Honestly whats the point in it? You're better off being communist at that point considering it ditches the most important aspects.

>>131444503
>being this staggeringly retarded

>>131439391
Grow up. Nu-pol is based! Libertarianism is mean!

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>>131439391

SIEG HEIL, FAGGOT.

>>131444621
The Left, which controls modern academia, wasn't always in this position. It had to get there somehow. And I've never seen Communists have a civilized discussion on this board, even if I politely ask them questions and turn off my flag

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>>131439391
I say we put the Natsocs in charge. They know how to solve problems.

>>131443898
Jewish porn has one owner.

>>131444756
>being this much of a leftist in denial

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>>131443848
>/pol/ was literally created when /new/ went full natsoc

>implies a time before /new/ going full stormfag

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>>131444676
Oh, another libertarian saying race doesn't matter? Well, let's get this over quickly.

Oxytocin Promotes Human Ethnocentrism:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3029708/

Ethnic Conflicts: Their Biological Roots in Ethnic Nepotism:
https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/ethnic-conflicts-their-biological-roots-in-ethnic-nepotism-tatu-vanhanen.pdf

What Science Says About Diversity (Part 1):
https://www.amren.com/news/2008/04/what_science_sa/

Genetically Beneficial to Resist Replacement Migration:
https://analyseeconomique.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/estimating-ethnic-genetic-interests-is-it-adaptive-to-resist-replacement-migration.pdf

Race Mixing:
https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_health_consequences_of_race_mixing/
https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/alon_ziv_on_race_mixing/
http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2015/10/study-claims-92-of-biracial-children-with-black-dads-are-born-out-of-wedlock/

Race Realism Pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/xDXXT9kd

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>>131439391
The only good lolbergtardians (Cantwell, Augustus Invictus) have allied with the fascists because they realized most of their friends were pussies who loved talking about physical removal, but didn't have the stomach for it.

>>131444725
Some people actually read, study and know history, and don't think that making the rich richer while the common proles are sent to freeze to death in Russia is a good thing?

>>131444983
Is a man a woman if he cuts off his cock and says he's a woman?

Were you dropped on your head as a child?

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>>131444920
>The Left, which controls modern academia, wasn't always in this position. It had to get there somehow. And I've never seen Communists have a civilized discussion on this board, even if I politely ask them questions and turn off my flag

That is beside the point. You should be able to back up your claims with reputable evidence that meet academic standards.

>Muh Kike

That shit isn't going to save you.

>>131443794
yeah sure, nacism and fascism is leftist garbage. Mind telling us what is not leftist garbage then?

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>>131444985
>posting old /pol/ memes as if it's a valid argument
i can do that too

>>131439391
Funny how I've always been in nu/pol/ but still I agree more with true /pol/.

>>131444999

The point is that you overstate this case so severely that you play right into the hands of JIDF. You're fucking shills.

>>131445194
How do we not meet up to academic standards? We have far more books on race, economics, etc. than you think. You should read Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald

>>131445329

Cool conflation, bro. Your argument is fucked and you know it. You weren't the originals: libertarians were. Your shit ideology has to ride libertarianism's coattails everywhere we go because you have nothing of value to contribute to anyone or anything. kys.

/thread

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>>131439391
We have to promote American imperialism and put them in camps and gas them.

>>131443974
You can't even spell bro..

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>>131445649
>not an argument
oh dear, i'm starting to sound like an ancap

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>>131445333
How the hell am I a JIDF shill? Demonstrating the importance of race is shilling? Because that seems to be the opposite of what Jews want

>>131445499
>How do we not meet up to academic standards? We have far more books on race, economics, etc. than you think. You should read Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald

For starters, go to fucking school. Learn what legitimate sources are and how to cite them. Then *employ* them in your arguments rather than le authority appeal by telling someone to read a book.

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>>131439391
It's what changed my mind.
watching a continent get shitskinned in real time was a wake up call.

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>>131439391

awwwwwwe, cmon.... I actually like the Hitler maymays.

>>131445798

Cool red herring, bro. It's you who fucked up when you implied the time before stormfags in /new/.

Run along, sweetie.

>>131445092
We differ on what nations primary focuses should be. Strasserism is essentially just that. Changing focus to the economic side of things rather than the people themselves.
Id rather have a healthy unified family with less ideal wealth conditions and power disparity. If that makes sense.

>>131439391
It's a problem that needs to be dealt with I agree. For a brief moment (a year) stormfags were expelled.
They are coming back. We need to stop them.

>>131445845
I do source my information. I told that guy to read a book because Hitler explained his opinions on Leftists in Mein Kampf, and I had a direct quote from that in my pic related. You're full of shit, just throwing out basic criticisms that are backed up by nothing

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>>131444140
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>>131442520
Can't believe Americans are this retarded.

>>131445822

Unless you want your marginalized shit movement to be anything but the fringe assblasted cumdumpster it is, you're going to have to convince smart people of what your stupid fucking message is all about. You have to hide the medicine in their food.

In the process, I'm sure you will find yourself challenged and outside of your comfort zone to the point where you won't be such a stormfaggot anymore. That is unless you're a psychopath, then there is no help for you anyway.

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>>131445333
Don't worry non-Whites will become libertarian.

Helicopter autism has got to go too.

>>131445845
I went to school (economics) and Austrian school adherents weren't considered legitimate sources. Hayek was actually mocked pretty regularly.

>>131445905
Stormfags haven't contributed anything if you don't count their shitty """redpilled""" infographics patched up with wikipedia articles about jews.

>>131445704
Typical leftist retort

>>131445692
isn't imperialism just fascism?

>>131446116
>I do source my information.

Sourcing your info isn't enough. Your source must be *reputable.* That means you might have to ditch your sources and try ones people will accept to get your point across. Your message is more important than where you get the information from. The best sources are able to withstand scrutiny from experts in the various fields.

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>>131445845
>le authority appeal

>>131445973
>run along, sweetie
>>131445845
>go to fucking school
>>131445649
>your argument is fucked and you know it

don't pretend like you are even near the level of intelligence that _some_ ancap philosophers might possess. you don't get to claim intelligence like that, sweetie. you're acting like a fucking retard, stop embarassing yourself.

>>131443248
/pol/ was always 90% right wing (half nazi, half libertarian)

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>>131446272
There are a lot of people aware of it. You just can't talk about it anymore because of the Holocaust. Even a fair criticism of Jews will get you criticized. I think I remember Donald Trump had some drain the swamp campaign ad and the three people he showed in the ad that represented the establishment were Jews (pretty sure one was Soros). He never mentioned the Jew but still got called an antisemite. How can you convince somebody of something you can hardly talk about?

>>131446339
>dude magic dirt lmao
>dude proposition nation lmao

>>131445846
You perception of reality is faulty. You see a perfect system get invaded by outside forces. I see a shitshow leading to its logical conclusion.

>>131445649
>/threads his own comment chain, passive-aggressively and desperately trying to have the last word

You need to be terminated, old or new it doesn't matter you are a fag that needs to die regardless. This is why a Hitler is required, because no one here is willing to do what needs to be done.

>>131439391
We need to stop arguing over ideals and come together over our mutual hatred of kikes

>>131446514
I feel like I do that though. I use almost none of the sources I used when I first started with these beliefs because I feel like my old sources aren't very good and able to help me in debates

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So this?

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>>131439391
Oh look, it's this divide and conquer bullshit again.

>>131444272
I'm not a lolbertarian you fucking moron

Nazis have nigger tier IQ, they are truly the niggers of the white race

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>>131445692
>american imperialism
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAH hows the middle east working out for you goys hmmm ?

>>131439742
>That bottom right slide is still true with a strong leader.
Strong leaders of the type natsoc or any type of fascist want are detrimental to the development of independent and responsible people.

WTF, i hate my fellow countrymen now!

>>131446840
Wait, what's that flag is supposed to represent then?

>>131446441
>Austrian school adherents weren't considered legitimate sources. Hayek was actually mocked pretty regularly.

Hayek also shares a Nobel Prize in Economics. If you search academic libraries, you can actually find peer reviewed works written by libertarians. They can be cited and used in academic debates despite what your kike professor has to say on the topic.

Marxists were destroyed by Bohm-Bawerk, so they undermined the epistemological foundations of praxeology instead. Those criticisms have been debunked, but news takes time to spread. You bring up a good point here, this is a topic that I would have to argue using academic sources. Yet it's not out of line to demand the same standards if you're going to make claims too.

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>>131446840
>I'm not a lolbertarian you fucking moron
>Uses gadsden flag

>Nazis have nigger tier IQ, they are truly the niggers of the white race
>Nazis were among the smartest people of their Era

>>131446797
Libertarians are both.

>>131446558

try harder, stormfaggot. Since you have nothing to contribute, pls go.

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>>131447213
Like you are contributing to anything.

>>131447213
Don't forget to /thread. I hear it works after 3 times, like Beetlejuice.

>>131447213
I'm contributing. I'm calling you out for making fun of "le authority" appeal while using it yourself several times in a matter of MINUTES. On top of that, you actually took the time to edit an already existing image to make it imply natsocs on /pol/ are shitspouting retards. What is it in your autistic little brain that upsets you that we're a part of this board?

>>131446611
>>131446611

>Muh jews

I get it, but when you bitch and moan about an entire race of people, you look like a fucking sperglord. Pick your battles. Go after what is truly important, like the international monetary system. That doesn't mean to never drop a jewpill, but you're going to need a little sugar for the medicine to go down.

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>>131440110
>I think we're making progress because I haven't seen one in a week
You mean you haven't been on 4chan in a week? Because they're fucking everywhere. I have yet to see a thread without one.

>>131447063
Originally it was meant to represent an American unit from South Carolina during the Revolutionary war. The Tea Party co-opted it when the Dems were hit with a low level revolution from the ballot box. From there the Libertarians and Ancaps used it as a symbol of liberty and the NAP. Or at least that is my understanding of it. I could be wrong.

Regardless it is an American symbol of independence.

>>131446691
I see democracy leading to its logical conclusion.

>Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. -John Adams

voting is force. Thus it is my best interest to prevent people who will use force against me. I know statistically how people will vote. I know if they do not assimilate they will retain their culture and their values, and will vote on those values.
And yet to make them assimilate would currently now require force.
Now I am trapped, make them assimilate via force or use force at the border.
Let's not go into ancapistan. I'm looking at reality not a theoretical.

>>131447155
And Democrats are slave owners who fought for segregation and chose a "black" man to become their parties presidential nomination and promote equal rights for all.

Ever since they implemented these new flags JIDF has been going in hard with the shilling.

>>131447213
Oh look, It's the classic "call others out for not contributing after 15 posts with no contribution" strategy

>>131446775
>I feel like I do that though. I use almost none of the sources I used when I first started with these beliefs because I feel like my old sources aren't very good and able to help me in debates

That's a good thing. You're going to want to invest in critical thinking though. You have to argue it from the other side and see if you can deconstruct your own beliefs.

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The fundamental flaw of Libertarianism is that it is inherently apolitical. By rejecting authority it rejects the necessary power to impose its will. Libertarianism thus can only ever be a theoretical ideology. Libertarianism and pacificism will never be relevant.

>>131447526
That's my plan, I don't go all out in real life, I just ease people into it and encourage open, civil discussion. On /pol/, I spam infographics about Jews, well, because I fucking can. It's a quick way to receive information, and everybody expects to see offensive content here

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>>131447526
>muh stormfags
You're not hypocritical or anything.

>>131447602
Pretty much.

>>131446840
>I'm not a lolbertarian you fucking moron
oh yes IM the moron for assuming your ideology with that flag.

>Nazis have nigger tier IQ, they are truly the niggers of the white race
So this is your best argument against nazis?
>>131446927
Nah thats really not the case. Exceptional individuals were rewarded all the time in fascist nations.
Unity is stressed as it is in communism but unlike communism there is no delusion that we are equals. Hence the rewarding.

>>131447749
>wanting to impose

dont tread on me you evil fucker

>>131446797
ah yes but how can you forget. Libertarians have multiple times have had their name stolen.
the LP and reason magazine is what libertarian is.
You could call me a Hoppeian if you would like but that is not currently libertarianism. I see the current dangers and would rather throw my lot in with natsocs until these dangers are over.

>>131446611
>You just can't talk about it anymore because of the Holocaust
Exactly. We learned the lesson from the Shoah. Anti-semitism mustn't be revived or chaos will ensue in Europe.

>Even a fair criticism of Jews will get you criticized.
You don't get to generalize so much to criticize a whole "race" like that. (in quotes because jews aren't really a race)

>He never mentioned the Jew but still got called an antisemite
>How can you convince somebody of something you can hardly talk about?
Gee I wouldn't know. I've been called a Jewish shill every single time by you stormfags so I don't really know what this "convincing of somebody" is.

>posting in a JIDF thread
>not saging

You are aware that the JIDF LARPs as lolbertarians and ancucks to water down the national socialist core of this board?

>>131447469
>>131447370


>I'm calling you out for making fun of "le authority" appeal while using it yourself several times in a matter of MINUTES

Undermining your sources is a different strategy altogether. Saying that you need good sources to be taken seriously is something different from telling someone to read a fashy book. And it clearly works, hence my point.

Learn how to do some research, then come back to me when you're ready. You let yourself get buttblasted by jew tactics. Nobody would take you seriously if you were arguing anywhere else. The point is to change people's minds. You're not doing that in my case or in others. The only people you're convincing are your stormfaggot friends, but that's just unproductive circle-jerking, hence your need to ride libertarianism's coattails.

>>131439391
Free market is degeneracy

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>>131439391

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>>131439391
>>131439592

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Reading obligatory. Whoever attacks the Nazis is a JIDF shill. Its the superior ideology.

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>>131447983
Tread or be tread upon. Principles of self-sabotage aren't worth keeping.

>>131447579
Good thing we're a Constitutional Republic in the States

>>131447801

My beef with you is that you play into JIDF's hands by overstating your case and acting like a bunch of sperglords. And that's apart from your shitty conceptions of economics and government. We never get that far, it's always ends up about the fucking kikes (or the shitskins).

>>131448148
t.Swarmfront

>>131447778
>That's my plan, I don't go all out in real life, I just ease people into it and encourage open, civil discussion
There is no civil discussion with a Nazi
>Oh you see, I just don't believe a mass genocide really happened and neither should you.

>On /pol/, I spam infographics about Jews
All of which are blatantly false.

>It's a quick way to receive information*
*propaganda

>and everybody expects to see offensive content here
Do you admit you only do it because anonymous people will think you're cool?

National (((Socialists))) are merely useful idiots. Let them destroy leftists with us, but they must be physically removed afterwards.

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>>131448194
Your post is in no shape or form relevant to anything I just replied to you. Give me an actual reply assclown, or stop pretending to be this "better than thou" enlightened individual.

>>131448203
Nothing wrong with degeneracy. Stop trying to take away freedoms

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>nu/pol/ unironically prefers Trump 2016 to Ron paul 2012

>>131448148
>You are aware that the JIDF LARPs as lolbertarians and ancucks to water down the national socialist core of this board?

You don't need to water down the stormfaggot core when you play right into JIDF hands like that fucking autists you are. Stormfaggots LARP as libertarians to waterdown the market anarchist core on this board.

Your psyop skills have always been on point, tho.

>>131448678
Hanging on to the past won't get us anywhere. Paul is still a great choice

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>>131448692
JIDF pls go

>>131448577
That would violate the NAP though.

>>131448678
Trump isn't perfect, but he won.

>>131448275
>Whoever attacks the Nazis is a JIDF shill.
Definition of close-mindness

>>131447749
>>131447835
>>131448081

There is a stark difference in ideology and a political party.

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>>131440856

>>131446855
Pretty fucking amazing tbqh. The crusades are going according to plan. We have to pretend it is a war on terror to gain public favor, but we can kill mudslimes freely at this point.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-coalition-air-strikes-isis-russia-kill-more-civilians-march-middle-east-iraq-syria-network-for-a7663881.html

>>131448584

Maybe when you lose the cognitive dissonance, then maybe we can someday have a productive conversation. Until then, enjoy your shekels.

>>131448692
>market anarchist

Do you really believe that shit?

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>>131448194
I haven't even blamed jews for anything yet you are jumping in my shit?I hate jews, but I don't feel the need to talk about them 24/7.
>sources
What the fuck are you even talking about?Are you retarded?

>>131448871
Archived it
https://archive.is/wjM4f

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>>131446817

This is a bigger divide than you'r appreciating. Right-wing libertarians and NatSocs on this board share nationalism. That's it. Other than that we're diametrically oppossed.

The NatSoc on this board is full of pleb worship and getting a big government to protect them from globalists and their own actions.

>>131440052
the National Socialism roots of the board were a meme because it was politically incorrect and jew-hating. Most people even recognise Hitler used socialism as a meme himself to mobilise the german population.

What's happened to this board in the last 2 years is that Farage and Trump - two businessmen - have come and once again used the working class like tools to kick out the progressive centrist types. And this board fell for it just becaue we enjoyed them hammering the progressives and talking about nationalism. Now the place is flooded with socialists.

>>131448820
>>131448832

What I am trying to say is that if nu/pol/ had to choose between having Trump and Paul as their president they'd go with Trump.

>>131448847
There is a difference, but they are related.

>>131448827
You sure showed him1Top tier comeback m8!

>>131448832
>he thinks removing leftists violates the NAP
Read Hoppe's work.

>>131448957
Ron Paul opposes a border wall so that makes sense.

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>>131448148
Pretty much this, they larp as anything that will further discord the main threats for the juden. They will also mention them a lot, because the easiest way to make a NatSoc stop being a NatSoc is to affiliate him with the thing he hates the most (jews) in some way. Then the NatSoc runs in disarray. Mission accomplished.

Also, watch this.
>>131439391
>True /pol/
>Leftists must be ridiculed and removed from our board
same person later, under satan:
>>131448666
>Nothing wrong with degeneracy

It's uncanny :DDDDD

>>131448919
I really don't give a fuck, I just want to destroy communism.

>>131448393
good thing the federal government takes a lot revenue and doles it back out with strings attached.

>>131448859
that image clearly ridicules centrists, besides that strawman isn't even applicable here.

>>131448893
>not
>an
>argument
nice 20-something replies tho, autist

>>131448919
how exactly was Hitler using socialism as a meme?

>>131448274
That image has some problems on the left. Jews inside western nations are a much greater immediate threat than Israel itself. If they're in israel they're mostly jewing eachother.
Assad is way better but i dont give a shit about the christians. Are you going to accept a million african and arab refugees just because they are christian? It doesn't make it better.

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>>131448827
>>131448895

Ermagerd, I can do that too!

>>131439391
The libertarian/nazi divide goes back to the days of /n/. Pretending otherwise is just disingenuous. Even if it didn't, why do you want to change it?

I actually enjoy having an unfiltered free marketplace of ideas.

>>131448971
Protons and electrons are related but I'll take H over He anyday

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Most lolbertarians are just boomers that want to be left alone.
All these vehemently anti-Natsoc (((lolbertarians))) posting here are just JIDF trying to destroy/weaken a worldwide movement.

>>131449044
Libertarianism is an irrelevant ideology because it rejects authority. Hoppe likes tyranny, but wishes that the state wouldn't have to do it. That's an understandable, but impractical position.

>>131449111
Samefagging to prove my point
>They will also mention them a lot, because the easiest way to make a NatSoc stop being a NatSoc is to affiliate him with the thing he hates the most (jews) in some way

lookey here:
>>131448893
>Until then, enjoy your shekels.

Tadaaa!

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>>131448827
>>131448692
This is a funny tactic, trying to insist that Natsoc = JIDF. I'll be curious to see if it catches on with Nupol. It's going to take some next-level idiocy for significant numbers to believe that "THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED" while also believing that "NATSOC IS REALLY THE JIDF". Too much cognitive dissonance with that strategy, genius, but good luck anyway.

>>131449243
I think the difference between an ideology and the party is more like the difference between Muslims and Islam. Not much.

>>131449084
>wanting the wall

Mexicans are hard-working people. We should be finding a way to grant them citizenship

>>131449175
>>not
>>an
>>argument
>nice 20-something replies tho, autist

Yes, bury your failed arguments in red herrings! Somebody take this guy seriously! He needs it so badly!

>>131449375
They have citizenship...in Mexico.

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It's called National (((Socialism))) for a reason.

Nazi scum get the fuck off my board.

*Starts up chopper*

>>131449304
>This is a funny tactic, trying to insist that Natsoc = JIDF
Yep, check my earlier comment and you'll understand why.

>>131449084
Because it's literally pointless and a waste of taxpayer's money. Illegals are problem, but there are plenty ways how to solve it better.

Why waste billions on stopping few hundred border jumpers when you could spend that money on somehow dealing with the dozen thousand times more that simply overstay their visa?

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>>131449461
>Nazi scum get the fuck off my board.

>>131449168
See Whiskey Rebellion.
We need a strong leadership or we will be taken over by Mob Rule then an outsider interest. (See all CA Ops)

>>131449251
Hoppe likes order, not tyranny. Tyranny is the idea that one must be over the other to have order, something leftists almost always agree with and statists always agree with. Therefore it should be in all libertarian's best interests to remove all followers of tyranny, so that the libertarian social order can remain.

>>131449304
>This is a funny tactic, trying to insist that Natsoc = JIDF. I'll be curious to see if it catches on with Nupol. It's going to take some next-level idiocy for significant numbers to believe that "THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED" while also believing that "NATSOC IS REALLY THE JIDF". Too much cognitive dissonance with that strategy, genius, but good luck anyway.

The funny thing is that you're either too stupid to see it, or you know it and you're unwilling to change, which would prove my point. In either case, you're full of fail.

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>>131449402
>nice 20-something replies tho, autist
pic related lol
>Somebody take this guy seriously! He needs it so badly!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh fuck lol

>>131449375
If they work that hard why is mexico still a shithole?

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Why are you faggots taking the kike bait so hard.

Pic related.

>>131439391
Scared, rabbi?

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>>131449513
Illegal and legal immigration need to be restricted heavily. I care about blood and soil. Bad economics can be fixed. Bad genetics are permanent.

>>131449402
What failed arguments? Can you be more specific? Also, what is it that upsets you about natsocs being part of /pol/? I can't seem to get an actual reply.

>>131449346
More like Catholic and Christian

>>131448564
>There is no civil discussion with a Nazi
Isn't what you did right there the opposite of civil discussion?

>I don't believe in genocide
I don't believe the official Holocaust story, but I do believe many people died. I am willing to discuss why I believe this. See? That's civil discussion right there

>All of which are blatantly false
Then go back through this thread and disprove every single one we posted

>*propaganda
Correct, who doesn't do that here? All sides do that. I don't fucking complain when AnCaps make memes and pics that are quick ways to receive information. I attack the content of the pic instead of shouting "lol that's propaganda"
>implying propaganda is even a bad thing

>>131449691
>one must be over the other to have order,
One must. Disorderly elements must be restrained by state power. We have neither lynch mobs, nor secret police because we have acquiesced to disorder.

>>131449759
And Ron Paul agrees with restricting the immigration and punishing illegals.

What he disagrees with however is spending taxpayer's money on retarded shit like border wall when it could be utilized on dealing with the same issue ten times better.

>>131449821
We disagree then.

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>>131449693
>national socialist had "socialist" is the name, thus, it was leftist
This would be a funny argument if it wasn't so sad. It's the equivalent of arguing that a catfish is a cat because it has "cat" in the name. In every way Natsoc was the ANTITHESIS of the Marxist Left. In every, single, way. I wish I could laugh at you, but it feels wrong to laugh at those born disabled.

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Socialists are socialists

>>131449720
>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh fuck lol

They call you stormfaggots for a reason. When the (You)'s pile up, one has to deal with them.

>muh autist

More ad hominems, how cute.

>>131449985
The wall should be built. We need to let the world know that the US is a country not a shopping mall.

>>131449860
Propaganda is like bullying.
It serves to create a homogeneous thought process amongst the populace.

Statists, name me one problem that the free market doesn't solve.

I'm waiting, faggots.

>>131443248
I would agree If you had the commmies on the list of ju-/pol/

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>>131439391
Libertarians literally allows for faggot marriage, abortion, and destruction of the family. I'm not a full on NatSOC but Libertarianism is complete degeneracy.

>>131450043
Catfish are cats why else would it be in the name?

>>131449513
>few hundred
are you really that retarded to think the number is that low ? http://archive.is/qtgoY

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>>131450137
>I'm waiting, faggots.
>>131450055
>More ad hominems, how cute.
lol

>>131450141
What consenting adults do in a free market is none of my business. That said, in a free market degenerates do not survive.

>>131450141
Libertarians who oppose that degeneracy lack the mechanism to solve it. That's the issue.

>>131449860
I have a simple question: Did nazis precipitate a systematic extermination of Jews?

>>131450137
secure the existence of our people and a future for white children

>>131450100
why not spend fourty billion on printing out leaflets and sending them around the globe then?

Concrete, efficient and taxpayer-friendly solutions are better than pointless and wasteful gestures.

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>>131449985
One problem, ron paul isn't in the presidental game anymore.We have no other options other than Trump to handle illegal immigration.Have you seen the candidates both parties have been throwing around for 2020?It's not looking good for any of us at all.

>>131449979
Agreed, but only to prevent another from gaining power at fear of their abusing it. A very difficult line to walk.

The jews really need to be exterminated, tbqh.

>>131450137
Faggots, niggers, Jews, liberals, immigrants...

>>131450259
You sound like every leftist faggot.

>>131449979
False. When ever one is above the other, the one above is able to do what ever he wants and still call it "orderly". Look at the disorderly things that our governments do every day, yet they are free from prosecution. True order is when everyone is accountable.

>>131450118
Propaganda is merely advertising for a state, ideology, or political figure. It is a means of converting people to your beliefs, and it's necessary in almost all ideological movements if they want to succeed. For example, the growth of the Modern Left was assisted by musical artists who promoted their ideals

>>131450284
Fuck off with your stormfaggotry.

The free market is the most pro-white ideology there is. In a true free market all other races would die out and whites would flourish, unlike National (((socialism)))

>>131450276
were jews systematically destroying germans through economic and influential means? (Wiemar republic)

>>131450312
It's shame, but i agree with you.
I really just shate on nu/pol/, not sure how it evolved into this debate.

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>>131449776

>What failed arguments? Can you be more specific?

>>131443848
>>/pol/ was literally created when /new/ went full natsoc

This is an implication that there was a time before stormfaggots on /new/. Instead of just agreeing with it, the stormfaggots resorted to all out character assassination, fallacies and memeing to derail the thread. And they call me the autist.

>>131450429
>The free market is the most pro-white ideology there is.
Chaim isn't even trying anymore.

>>131450304
The US is a dying empire. We can wax poetic about the taxpayer, but this is the issue. We need arson, not redecorating. Natsoc is arson. Libertarianism redecorates. A bankrupt US is preferable to business as usual.

>>131450313
The way you prevent power from being abused is by holding it. Otherwise you just hope your rulers are nice.

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>>131450323
>Faggots, niggers, Jews, liberals, immigrants...

None of these groups can compete in the free market. Therefore they would not flourish.

BTFOing stormkiddies is too fucking easy these days.

>>131450276
That's depends. I believe potentially hundreds of thousands of people died, but most of them were unintentional. Not sure if that qualifies as genocide

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>>131448692
Being white and being socialist is retarded. I don't give a fuck about Israel or Assad. America First you traitors, not socialism, not Russians, if it required kicking the shit out of them in the middle east so be it to stop the Russian scum from spreading their filth in our interest areas.

>>131450137
> name me one problem that the free market doesn't solve.
flamable cladding.
>>131450259
> That said, in a free market degenerates do not survive.
Yes they do. As degenerate slaves. That or ghouls that wonder the streets or both.

>>131450575

If you can't compete in the free market you don't deserve to live. Survival of the fittest. Socialism in all its forms, including national (((socialism))) protects degenerates and allows them to flourish whilst holding back productive capitalist entrepreneuers.

>>131450374
>True order is when everyone is accountable.

Accountability requires authority.

>>131450586
You're right that's why every capitalist country no longer has these problems. Or has real capitalism never been tried?

>>131450423
I feel as if we agree on this.
Propaganda is a force; the one who wields it is the root of the issue here.

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>>131450572
>can you be more specific?
>actually becomes less specific
still haven't told me why you dislike natsoc btw
i'll be here all night, just like you shillboy

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>>131450749
>if you can't earn shekels you deserve to die
>i don't care if my people and nation die
>as long as i keep my sweet, sweet shekels

>>131450043
>In every way Natsoc was the ANTITHESIS of the Marxist Left. In every, single, way. I wish I could laugh at you, but it feels wrong to laugh at those born disabled.

I disagree on multiple grounds, but that is beside he point I was getting at in the statement. I was referencing your kike-bashing behavior gives them a useful boogeyman to exploit to do their bidding. You're literally useful idiots when you behave the way you do, because it detracts from more important arguments like HOW they're fucking us.

We could actually debate about nazi political and economic structure, but for not it's beside the point right now.

>>131450700
>flamable cladding.

That was a government funded commieblock. Also in a free market the residents would take responsibility for the cladding and pay for it to be fireproofed.

You commies literally argue against yourselves, thanks for the laugh.

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>>131450915
The Left will win. Break the Chains, lads.

>>131450586
You still allow their degeneracy.

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>>131449248
Nah, I'm young, voted Trump. My parents escaped Russian communism/socialism so we hate you nazi faggots to the core and will never allow you faggots to destroy America, same goes for commie faggots. You're all the fucking worst of every side.

>>131450988
That's not real capitalism.

>>131450585
You create a system hoping for benevolence, but allowing for overthrow of the people in place i.e. elections and a right to bear arms

People like to say that Natsoc is a meme larp ideology but that is far from the truth. The west is already socialist so transitioning to something like Hitlers Germany wouldn't even be a big change. Except for the fact that it would be pro-white and anti-Christian instead of anti-white and pro-Islam.

Lolbertarians are the true larpers/JIDF kikes

>>131450138
>I would agree If you had the commmies on the list of ju-/pol/

You're right. Those fuckers are no better than stormfaggots, but I didn't want to alienate the red anarchists. The ones on /pol/ sometimes hate marxism, but some might still be on the fence.

>>131450764

Real capitalism does not exist where government is involved. However, a breif look at history will show the more capitalism we have the greater we become. The opposite is true for (((government))).

>>131451029
Yes goy. Kill Mr. Goldblatz for being an evil Jew but not Mr. Gates for being just as evil since he's white. That will save you and the white race! hehehehe

>>131450915

Free helicopter ride for you, crypto commie.

>>131450455
Germany was forced to pay reparations. Was this the jews? No.
"Jews diddit" meme was created by Hitler to blame someone for the humiliating defeat in WWI (we wuz victorious n shit)

>>131451091
>pro-white and anti-Christian
meant pro-Christian

>>131451057
The US made sense as a White country, but we are quickly becoming a banana republic. Liberia had the same constitution, but a 100% Black population. Our constitution is only as powerful as our respect for the law. This requires us to control the SCOTUS and police otherwise it's just a piece of paper.

>>131450764
Sounds like Anarcho-Capitalism

>>131450585
>the us is a dying empire
This is how I know you're probably a waxy edgy teenager who doesn't understand geopolitics. America is just starting it's empire phase you retard. It's going to be an empire, and the only super empire through out the 21st century.

>>131450764
>Accountability requires authority.
This isn't true. When authority does something out of line, it's up to the non-authority to put it into account, which is contradictory to what you are considering. If that wasn't that way, then authority would be able to do what ever, at the expense of it's citizens.

>>131450787

See

>>131450572

I didn't mean anything more than that.

>still haven't told me why you dislike natsoc btw

You didn't really ask.

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>>131451295
No we are fully in the age of decline.

>>131451133
um ok?

>>131451321
Except that I did
several fucking times

All I can see ITT is AnCaps and Libertarians intellectually obilterating the (((nazi))) and (((communist))) scum. Nice to see nothing has changed.

Good job boys.

>>131451376
Ok, think of my post in 2050 when we're still the only super power. Also, take off your icon and prove you're an American.

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>>131451157

>>131451495
Nazis are the niggers of the white race, commies are the niggers of economics. and niggers are the niggers.

>>131439592
I'm glad you bothered to actually read about the economic policies of national socialism and see that it's a direct refusal of communist socialism.

>>131451091
>The west is already socialist so transitioning to something like Hitlers Germany wouldn't even be a big change
Except for the abolishment of democracy which, you know, is the cornerstone of the west.

>Except for the fact that it would be pro-white and anti-Christian instead of anti-white and pro-Islam
Except most people wouldn't like this "little change" you made.

>>131451228
"White" is an ideology, not a race.
How many 'white' youths were raised in supremacy homes and turned to other cultures as acts of rebellion and found profit for it and stayed?

>>131451313
The English constitution had levels of authority to restrain it's government. The House of Commons, Lords, then the monarch himself. At a certain point a sovereign (that is unmatched) authority must exist. The sovereign is responsible to the body politic because it is part of the body politic. The armed citizenry replaces an unsuitable sovereign with a new one. Might ultimately makes right.

>>131439391
idk Id take nazi larpers over redditor kekistani

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>>131451608

And Libertarians are the patricians.

>>131450988
Degeneracy is something that only losers bitch about.

>>131451100
I agree to an extent. You must have some form of government otherwise you just get a power struggle between corporations until one of them seizes power and becomes authoritarian. Smaller government is good, but no government at all is asking for disaster.

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>>131451680
GET OFF OUR FUCKING BOARD YOU LEFTIST KEKHOLD PIECE OF SHIT! REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>131451756

Corporations don't exist under true capitalism (AnCap). Basic economics proves this

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>Except that I did
>several fucking times

Please, show me, because i don't see it.

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>>131451700
choosing either proves you're a faggot internet hipster with no goals in life other than being a larpers pet bitchboi.

Let's say we had a white nationalist society with closed borders to everyone who isn't white. The market was mostly free. You could own your own private property, start a business, etc., except for a few environmental regulations and government loans to new white families to promote birth rates. All communists and Jews would be kicked out. The government would look something like a Roman Republic maybe. Would everyone here be happy?

>>131451503
We are where Britain was in the 1930s. We are unlikely to remain a world power by 2030. We have every symptom of a decline. I don't like that, but I'm honest enough to acknowledge it.

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>>131451678
>Except for the abolishment of democracy which, you know, is the cornerstone of the west.
Most people don't care to vote because they know nothing changes with democracy.

>>131451495
Nazis are just uneducated hicks from the south. You know how much they bitch about nigger down there. BTFO'ing them is easy, reminder that if you see a nazi flag call them out and thrown down the facts, they'll either convert or leave sooner or later.

>>131451816
Can't tell if bait or stupid

>>131451910
>making autistic reply wall
oh boy

>Give me an actual reply
>What is it in your autistic little brain that upsets you that we're a part of this board?
can you answer that now
thanks

>implying libertarianism/classical liberalism wasn't the literal, original form of leftism that has since eroded the west's sense of community and duty to nation and allowed Marxism to take hold

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>>131452039
In 1991 Canada opened the floodgates to immigrants so the legitimacy of their elections fell apart.

>>131451956
They would report so on paper.

>>131451495
Pretty easy when your meme ancap ideology is utterly theoretical and has never been practically applied anywhere

>>131439391
>criticise globalism and George Soros
>refuse to acknowledge the enabler of them (capitalism)
Why are libertarians so retarded?

D&C thread

NatSoc, Libertarian, christians and white pride all share a common goal, this is a longstanding alliance. Nice try.

>>131451687
Yes, constitutions "retrain" the government, but only to the point at which the government allows. Even then the government can go against the constitution at it's digression, that's the entire point of the Democratic Party. It's is ultimately up to the citizenry to decide on how much it wants to be ruled, and sadly most of the misguided fools decided to take the governments cock.

It's been nice debating with you, but I'm about to leave.

>>131452014
Wrong. You know nothing of geopolitics. Whoever controls North America controls the world. The American empire is only just beginning. Last empire was the European empire which began it's death with the end of WW2. America will be the only super power through out these next few centuries, bank on it. Watching youtube conspiracy videos doesn't make you an economic expert. Let me guess, you probably think China is stronker and a threat to the US?

>>131452084
I will gladly be the stone that rises out of the river. But I warn you to walk upon the land is to leave the water.

>>131452041
amen brother

>>131452165
It has been tried jackass.

It's called America.

1776.

Y'all nazi faggots should read about it.

>>131442648
>muh no styep on snek
Kys faggot.

>>131452084
In my country the liberal (classical liberal) party actually attacked the women that showed up to vote. So no, classical liberals didn't cause this shit it was the progressives.

>>131452084
Congrats, you're retarded

>>131452150
>Canada opened the floodgates
All thanks to Trudeaus cuck father.

>>131452319
Nice watching you put out good points sir. Keep fighting for your cause. It's close enough to good that I offer you my blessing.

>>131451174
The debt germany had to repay was not the only problem. Jews are not the sole reason for what went wrong or all powerful or something, but they were certainly a major factor. UK guaranteed poland because jews in the UK pushed for it. They had influence in most governments of the time and used it accordingly (thanks to owning most of the finance industry)
The german government could have either done nothing about it and never recovered. Let degeneracy run rampant. Or they could expel them, which they started doing. Once the war got going that wasnt an option. Just like how the US put Japanese into camps.

Meanwhile late in the war the allies are bombing the shit out of supply lines and industry, germans are having a hard time feeding their own military much less prisoners of war. disease and famine becomes a massive problem and you end up with hundreds of thousands of dead prisoners.

War ends: how do the allies justify this costly war with germany? They supposedly join it to save poland and now poland is occupied by the soviet union. So how? well lets say the germans were exterminating their prisoners. We'll be justified on moral grounds.

>>131452080
>can you answer that now
>thanks

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