Syria General /sg/ - The Army of Nusayiri Edition

>must watch

American senator tell the other side of the story: https://youtu.be/0FNtEWfay_8
>Virginia senator on Aleppo: https://youtu.be/VfyDgDTu0Go
UN Neutral report on "War Crimes" in Syria: https://youtu.be/Yc-RmAVK8Pg
>Syria: Not a Revolution: https://youtu.be/8prwbWLa7f0

>THE TRUTH ABOUT White helmets: https://youtu.be/8aAaReVn2I4 | https://youtu.be/Es7oBV6b43Y
more on white helmets: https://youtu.be/tseqwNIXhDQ | https://youtu.be/792ODrhwKkk
White helmets killing a child for UN https://youtu.be/9nj6fc69qjM

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"Chemical attacks" in Khan Shiekoun on April 4
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/04/67182.html
>President Assad: Chemical Attack was 100% Fabrication https://youtu.be/_pGAcv-cvA4
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>What's REALLY Happening in Syria (by SyrianGirlPartisan): https://youtu.be/OJZRvp6w4wc
Syria ambassador in USA: https://youtu.be/U3LTTbOYVfU
>The Face of American Regime Change: https://youtu.be/T634A6AWR9c
Assad visits monastery for Christmas: https://youtu.be/aG_SutViEmQ
Soldier met family after 5 years: https://youtu.be/zHoeU9mZ1Xss
>Canadian Journalist Expose The Lies of Syria: https://youtu.be/tmNnZ-3JmSo
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NGO’s and hybrid warfare: https://youtu.be/ro1byfe5vUM
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WikiLeaks: Turkish oil minister links to Isis oil trade
- wikileaks.org/berats-box/article
Top aide to Hillary Clinton: :Al-Qaeda is on our side in Syria
- wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23225

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>SJWs cuckmarch(riding in my Volkswagen van everyday) from Germany to Aleppo "over the course of three and a half months"
https://youtu.be/L2A3KidIhe8
Progress: 20 left out of 3000+ at the start,5+ months have passed since the roadtrip started. From May 1st they are in Greece....

Thread reminder to watch Threads.
https://vimeo.com/18781528

https://youtu.be/t98PD6KCg2Q

Fuck ASSad, he is a child murderer and has bombs orphanages, animal sanctuaries, hospitals, and bakeries(personally). he will fall

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Should the Kurds get a state?

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D-Death to America?

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first for BASED assad!
did you know his favorite vidya are skyrim and skyrim remastered?
pick them both up today! also fo4!

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>>130991262
don't post rand
its too sad

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>tfw aced exams, only have 1 assignment to go
im going to enjoy earning better money

>>130991262
No.

HOLY SHIT SOMEONE EDITED THE ROJAVA ARTICLE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rojava

I'M FUCKING DYING

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>>130991426

>>130991575
>Jewish Control, Great Cuckold (United States) Principles
topkek.jpg

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>>130991262
They will get lead instead of clay.

>>130991422
he was begging for the (You), i didn't want to make him waste more time
>>130991394
average european young man?
>>130991644
i'm not

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>tfw no one noticed the updates

>>130991262
History says it's not a good idea.

>>130991575
reversed already

>>130991919
Rojava Wahabia... lel

>>130991924
Look again

kurdistan when?

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>>130991919
>Rojava Wahabia

>>130991919
fake and you're gay

>>130992156
Hopefully never, It's another Israel we don't need it. The shithole will demand gibs after a while.

Goodnight laddos

Anyone else here selling maps and informations before posting them?

>>130991575
>implying it wasn't you

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>>130992318
who would buy such information, go-... friend?

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>>130991895
>SAA seizes Hail gas field 10km east of Palmyra
This is soooo wrong kek
First, afaik only maytham claimed Al Hail was captured.
Secondly, it's 10 kilomemes from the recent gains (Dahr Abah).

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>>130991426
>primaries are a few months away
>a few months ago was the frontrunner, now in 9th place with 3%
>have received no major backers, grassroots funding has dried up
>once was headlining the news, now nobody will talk to me
>spend my time skirting around to speaking events with less than 100 people
>living out of cheap motels
>resort to trotting out my wife, make sure she wears a tight fitting top
>someone has the bright idea to livestream a day on the campaign trail
>begrudgingly agree
>only a few thousand people watch as I demonstrate just what a clusterfuck my daily life is
>reach the edge of my rope, curse out the livestream viewers in testy manlet rage
>tfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0xzWGjLskE

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>>130991371
Does he really play vidya?
>>130991222
Shills fuck off.

>>130991644
No,maybe
No you are degenerate
>>130991890
now youre just making it sound bad my dude
You dont have to be non conformist just to be non conformist

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>>130992175
Can't laugh at the situation because it insults your new overlord?

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>>130992659
Don't say that.

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>>130992569
oh rand...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rojava

THEY DID IT AGAIN YOU GUYS

>>130992538
Based on this:
>https://twitter.com/rofoca_lucifuge/status/878035549566652416

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>>130992622
>Does he really play vidya?
only bethesda games
so no, he only plays pure unfiltered art in videogame format

>>130992952
Close enough!

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>>130991371
>>130993091
>mfw just got done playing Skyrim

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>>130993057
Sadly a shitpost.
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.617105&lon=38.669472&z=13&m=b&gz=0;385675048;346303829;1716;60734;0;60734;1138114;1412
Al-Hail will be a bitch...

Has the GHawk thing been proven wrong or is there simply no credible source?

>>130993057
>>130993452
https://twitter.com/watanisy/status/877922033245585408

>>130993493
simply no credible source. Also can't proof a negative

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>>130993383
hope you didn't support (((ulfric))) senpai
total thalmor plant to destabilize the empire

>>130992659
>now youre just making it sound bad my dude
>You dont have to be non conformist just to be non conformist
if normie = average european young man, then i'm not.
i don't think that you're a normie since you're a /pol/ regular.

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>>130993737
>if normie = average european young man
It's not breaking news you're a maghrebi, maghrebi.

>>130993626
*denied
I guess. There could be pictures or video material of the crash in california.

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>>130993493
Just a coincidence, nothing to see here!!

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>>130993631
>implying your choice matters
>implying the goal isn't to end the war as quickly as possible
I just want to cuck the High Jews

>>130991262
>Should the Kurds get a state?
You gave american niggers an own state in Africa. Look what happened.

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>>130994442
>You gave american niggers an own state in Africa
You gave american niggers an own state in North America.
Fixed. Ya Hezbollah.

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>>130993452
Reposting from older bread

The eastern side of the road from Arak to Sukhnah will probably make Talila and T3 look like a walk in the park if SAA has to go through it...
25 kilomemes of easily defended heights and vulnerable depressions.
Really hope they can pull off some cross county flanking maneuvers and rout the jihadishits or this will take a long ass while...
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.786457&lon=39.259300&z=12&m=b&gz=0;388826751;345478525;0;0;5946350;1582053;3213500;3144184;3213500;3141367;3223800;3008954;3402328;3130099;3216934;3127282
Hell, it will probably take a while aswell to safely advance and set up defensive positions along the way but i think there would be a whole lot less casualties and tanks lost if they went along this dirt road.
It seems to even have earth walls around a big portion of the road, but I'm sure the earth walls will be a IED-ridden hellhole...

>>130993737
Not so sure about that im a complete normie outside of /Sg/posting
You can be redpilled about politics without showing your powerlevel

>>130994586
at least we aren't some third world pacific island ghetto lmao

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>>130993797

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(((Interviewer))) squirming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krpNlm8SDXE

>>130994613
The best idea that comes to mind is making the kotel and waiting for counter-offensives with air support on standby, no point in infiltrating every single tunnel and cave.

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Official list of Saudi demands

>Iranian regime-linked media claims Israeli F16s are in Saudi Arabia

>The Israeli squadron now allegedly parked in Saudi territory includes 18 combat jets, according to Fars, among them “F16I, F15CD and F16CD, along with two Gulfstream aircraft, two tanker airplanes and two C130 planes, special for electronic warfare.” The planes landed Thursday, Fars said.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-regime-linked-media-claims-israeli-f16s-are-in-saudi-arabia

>>130995498
>Only Qatar & Kuwait outside of countries who wrote it have the demands. Maybe US. It's in none of their interests to leak. Keep that in mind

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>>130995500

RuAF pilots don't sleep tonight, offensive in east Homs ongoing.

I'm going to take the advantage of not being a RuAF pilot and catch some rest though, hope for gainz tommorow.

What do you think of Trump's intervention in Syria?

Please vote here
http://www.strawpoll.me/13249702

>>130991890
>he was begging for the (You), i didn't want to make him waste more time
No, I was so used to the false flag impersonators of you that I didn't believe.
I, your favorite burger who successfully got your "death" trending, and then almost started to believe it.
Thanks for the (you) pHåm

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>>130996102
g'nite boland

reminder that /sg/ still can't come up with a single good reason to dislike the SDF

>>130996287

Because the SDF won't let Iran fuck with Israel and supply Hezbollah through Syria. This is a key issue.

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>>130996287

>>130996287
hmmmm...

ethnic cleansing
greedy land and resource grabbing
independence demands will lead to further war between major regional powers

hmmmmm

lots to be uncomfortable about. lots

>>130996102
gn

>>130991908
how? [sincerely curious]

>>130996608
>implying barzani's KRG has anything to do with the SDF
pkk literally fought against israel in lebanon during the 80s
>>130996791
>ethnic cleansing
false, debunked by UN
>independence demands
SDF does not advocate independence
>greedy land and resource grabbing
SDF are syrians and are providing syrians with the fruits of their own resources. how is that greedy?
>>130996589
Why is it a good thing to let islamists have more power?

>>130996909
Apparently every time they've been given autonomy they've backstabbed the country that gave it to them and just made more demands. They're low key expansionists.

>>130996287
had conversation with Assad ,Bashar said Kurds are up to no good

>>130996909
The Kurds have historically been unable to carve out their own state due to massive tribal infighting, not to mention it'll piss off every nation in the region, all who despise the Kurds

>>130996287
Ethnic cleansing and they're jewish tools

>>130997124
okay

>>130997212
started making trouble in my neighborhood
i got in one little fight and kikes got scared they said
"we're shooting your planes out of the air"
*prince of bel air theme*

>>130996287

YPG is just as bad as ISIS as far as ethnic cleansing goes.
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ru/contents/articles/originals/2015/10/syria-turkey-right-groups-accused-kurds-rojava-of-war-crimes.html

>In a 38-page report, "'We Had Nowhere Else to Go': Forced Displacement and Demolition in Northern Syria,” Amnesty International catalogues allegations of forced evictions of Arabs and Turkmens and the destruction of their homes and property. “In some cases, entire villages have been demolished, apparently in retaliation for the perceived support of their Arab or Turkmen residents for the group that calls itself the Islamic State,” Amnesty International noted. Villagers said they were ordered to leave at gunpoint, their livestock shot at. The watchdog used satellite imagery and video footage to verify the claims.


>Kurdish officials consistently reject all such claims, saying that villagers had been evicted for their own safety because they were in militarized zones and could get caught in the fighting or hurt by improvised explosive devices planted by IS.

Kurds are cunts to Assyrian Christians:

rudaw.net/english/opinion/21012016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVqcmgAtjp8 [Embed]


http://1001iraqithoughts.com/2016/05/10/the-kurds-everything-you-didnt-know-the-plight-of-the-assyrians/

http://drrichswier.com/2016/04/27/exclusive-interview-assyrian-christians-battle-kurds-in-syria/

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https://twitter.com/nareen_shammo/status/877924996596645888
>Kurds from Bardarash attacked on 40Yazidi girls&men bcz of their religion after a discusion.

>>130997476

Battle for Hasakah city. YPG waited until the city's garrison was almost eliminated by IS before the flanked them and conquered most of the governorate .

Aleppo central prison siege. SAA was only able to supply the prison and the hospital through the YPG controlled Seikh Masqud district, until the rebels convinced YPG to forfeit their neutral status and expel SAA from Seikh Masqud.


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kurd%20arab%20war%20crimes#seen

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/thousand-of-arabs-flee-from-kurdish-fighters-in-syrias-north-10289475.html


http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/05/27/report-christian-assyrians-accuse-syrian-kurds-imposing-education-curriculum-alters-old-testament/
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/869279046240260098
#Syria #TwitterKurds #Kurds #Kurd #Rojava Ex-#YPG foreign fighter says "YPG says Arabs are lessers" and prevents ambulances to them

>ethnic cleansing by the k*rds
http://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/N1714673.pdf

> K*urds are responsible for the displacement of 200,000 Arabs since November 2016 around Raqqa.

http://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/Raqqa%20%20sit%20rep%2026%20May%20-n6_0.pdf

>YPG: “Saudi Arabia is an important power in the region and it must play its role in promoting stability in Syria. We are ready to cooperate with Saudi”
http://www.aranews.net/2017/06/after-turkeys-decision-to-deploy-troops-in-qatar-syrian-kurds-express-willingness-to-cooperate-with-saudi-arabia/


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>>130997546
Archive or screenshot please
>http://independent co uk/news/world/middle-east/thousand-of-arabs-flee-from-kurdish-fighters-in-syrias-north-10289475.html
https://archive.is/yigEf

>>130997120
>debunked by UN
The UN simply handwaved it away even though their report admitted the Kurds were undertaking massive displacement of non-Kurds

>>130997120
>false, debunked by UN
not debunked by UN. UN spoke about particular incidents. many others continue to be reported.

SDF may very well advocate independence, they certainly have demands which are in their primary interests and not those of the majority of syrian civilians ( i.e the other 94%) of the population

it's greedy because they are taking as 6% ( third generation refugees from turkey ) of the population some of the richest deposits of minerals and oil that are available in syria.

saying that they as syrians are taking stuff is a bit disingenuous. if u wanted to be genuine about it they would return 94 % to the governement. but ofcourse they are greedy and keep it all.

W-what does YPG stand for?

>>130997120
>Why is it a good thing to let islamists have more power?

They won't, Assad will have the power but will allow Iran to supply Hezbollah and keep the kikes in check.

>>130997546
>>130997476
>>130997336
>nineveh
SDF are not responsible for what the KRG does
>israel
PKK fought against israel in the 1980s
>ethnic cleansing
https://twitter.com/uncoisyria/status/841360775105114113?lang=en

>>130997808
It's Kurdish for "Soon to exterminated communist mountain roach"

>>130997120
>implying kurds aren't kurds
only nation that supports those shitstains is israel so they can fuck right off

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>>130994925
Agreed.
Only capturing heights along the road to protect the flanks and racing through the desert or literally wait for my latest homs/hama prediction to come true and Suheil coming from the west.
There's no way they will go through all of that (black circle) before capturing sukhnah...

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>>130997489

>>130998100
saying that all kurds are the same is like claiming that saudi arabia and syrian arabs are the same
objectively retarded

>>130997489
this was done in KRG territory and has nothing to do with SDF

>>130996102
good night!

>>130997828
>https://twitter.com/uncoisyria/status/841360775105114113?lang=en
a single source, speaking about specific incidents. not all incidents. there are documented ( enough to fill an amnesty report ) cases and continual reports - even video from western volunteers talking about buring arab villages and kicking the buildings down to rubble.

and u have one tweet and your hands are washed...

I am left with no alternative but to regard you as kurdish, and in support I point to your clearly low standards towards personal hygene. one tweet is not enough to wash yourself clean with. not even close.

>>130998356
He's probably a "muh rojava can do no wrong" anarkiddie

>>130998189
lol

>>130998278
>All Kurds dont have the same end goal of a united Kurdistan and aren't actively working towards it

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>>130998459
>>130998356
SDF are objectively the most anti-islamist faction and have committed the least war crimes. All people are treated equally and have the right to their own language, unlike under the Arab supremacists. The displacements pale in comparison to all the beheadings and other crimes that other factions have committed. Why is it so hard to believe that the SDF are the most humane faction in the war?

>>130998769
proof??

>>130998650
PKK and YPG explicitly reject the idea of a united independent kurdistan as that would be replacing one oppression with another.

>>130998200
>>130998278
Yeah but what are you gonna do? Have a million different Kurdish mini-states each run by a different faction? At some point they're gonna have to run a country, and what are they gonna do then? Because I don't think the SDF is going to side with villagers over guys with guns who are of the same tribe as them.

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>>130998769
>biji biji
>we wuz kangz n shet
Obvious kurd propagandist.

>>130999000
>mustard
Why?

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Umm Guys....

>>130998278
true, also, yazidis are kurds too, they're just on the ypg's side.
funny thing is, they cooperate with the pmu so they get protection but in syria, they'd be on opposite sides
middle eastern factionalism is very fluid and pretty weird

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>>130998769
>democratic socialists
The only place they belong is a gulag

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>>130998769
literally what SAbro said
>>130998356

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>>130998769
>>130999000
By the way those numbers of the pic are bullshit:
https://twitter.com/IzatCharkatli/status/877844297504104448

>>130999097
Don't know tbqh, I stole that pic.

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>>130998200
Doesn't matter. Kurds aren't getting a state because none in region (with the exception of kikestan) support it and one cancer in that region is literally enough.

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>>130998769
By the way, from what i figured from the (propaganda) video, no SAA were allowed to fight, they could return to "normal" life in IS territory.

>>130998769
>SDF are objectively the most anti-islamist faction and have committed the least war crimes.
More than the SSNP
>>130998977
>Have a million different Kurdish mini-states each run by a different faction? At some point they're gonna have to run a country, and what are they gonna do then? Because I don't think the SDF is going to side with villagers over guys with guns who are of the same tribe as them.
This
>>130999097
Mustard is part of spicy Saddam memes

>>130999117
kikes shilling hard there

>>130999563
>pic
Uh...quick rundown on this one?

>>130998977
There are over 20 different Arab countries. No reason why different Kurdish parties who have fought civil wars in the past can't govern separate areas.

>>130999566
the SSNP fights on the same side as the syrian government, it's not an independent faction at this point.

>>130999380
>bible education
isn't the whole point of this war to support secularism?

>>130998916
That's just bullshit though. Of course they would say that, but behind the scenes they're already drawing up the map should Assad lose.

>>130999793
some whore with fake tits

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>>130999117

>>130998769
you gumbo of bullshit is too full of adjectives.
you are clearly a passive aggressive type, what with your 'objectively the most anti-islamic' ( how is that objective - the saa has done the most combat against isis ) .

And as for 'least war cimes' well we don't know do we...

'Arab supremicists' ...wtf...you mean like one tweet self washers have no 'supremacist' tendencies. I personally have never heard of 'arab supremicism'.

So now you are admitting to the displacements.....

the SAA has not committed ethnic cleansing, nor have they taken part in beheadings.

And now with the new shifting goalposts. 'the most humane'.

It's not relevant that they are humane or anti islamist or hairy or goatfuckers. It's about constitutional law, international law and their attempt as an extreme minority to dictate, on racial and cultural standards solely, their rights over vast tracks of assyrian, yazidi and arab lands - as if they were theirs.

not to mention that if they ever, with the help of external balkinising forces, get a state, the region will immediately plunge into another war to prevent it.

they have no claim to syria. none. they can claim 1/3 of turkey and iraq. but they have no claim in syria. the idea that three generations after being accepted as refugees in syria from a failed uprising in turkey, now allows them to lay claim to 1/3 of syrian land and resources is quite frankly preposterous. regardless of the adjectives, or emotive language you use.

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>>130999852
The YPG fights on the same side as the US and Israel, its not an independent faction at this point

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>>130999793
she has big boobies

Go Assad!

>>130999852
i don't think you know what secularism means sweetie.

>>130999852
You're basically advocating for a Confederation of the Rhine in northern Syria.

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>>130999852
>isn't the whole point of this war to support secularism?
>secularism = teach a bible that add kurds

>>130999477
lol

>>130999477

To be fair, they're probably both kikes.

>>130999563
islam has made your women attractive. good job sven

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>>131000033
checked

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>>131000171
Mashallah

>>130995500
That's retarded since there's zero strategic advantage to doing it and they'd have to hit tankers on both legs of a flight to any combat zone. I despise Kikes but that shit's fucking silly.

t. USAF F-16 mech with TDYs to KSA, UAE and Incirlik.

>>130999932
>anti-islamist
In government-held Syria, polygamy and Sharia courts exist. This is banned in SDF territory.
>arab supremacism
assyrian and kurdish and non-arabs weren't allowed to teach their own language under the Arab Socialist Ba'ath. Assyrian and Kurdish education is now flourishing in SDF territory.
>beheadings
SAA aligned troops have literally been filmed beheading dead enemies and torturing and commiting extrajudicial executions, same as rebels and ISIS
>extreme minority dictating
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Democratic_Council
SDF government is directly elected
>get a state
they don't want a state of their own. they only want to institute local democracy and human rights in the areas they control and defeat ISIS

>>131000344
they're not talking about them attackin iran from there. Probably just joint exercise or whatever

>>130994695
>You can be redpilled about politics without showing your powerlevel
This doesn't make you a normie just because you don't show your powerlevel in public pHåm, most of us don't reveal it in public. You can't explain or expect outsiders to gain or even care about the knowledge we are regularly acquire here, so this makes you carry a lot of it inside, only sharing it here on /sg/ for the most part. But the fact that you know the truth makes it impossible to be a normie, doesn't mean that you can't still mainly act and feel like one, just one that's smarter than most of the others around you.

>>130997336
>all who despise the Kurds
Kurds are the Euphrates jews

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>>131000033
absolutely BASED! get this assadpede a burka

>>131000534
*knowledge we regularly acquire here

>>130998769
None of you sand niggers (Kikes are sandnigs too) are "humane". You exist, like Balkanoids, to kill each other because some mudskin fucked his neighbors goat without permission.

Please keep killing each other.

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>>131000475
>democracy
>human rights

>>131000083
There is literally nothing wrong with federalism. It works fine in Spain, Germany and the United States

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>>131000475
>beheading dead enemies
WTF NO WAY
IM TEAM KÜRT NOW

>>131001012
M8, we literally fought a civil war due to factional differences in our country. You're just going to be setting the stage for even more bloodshed by making low key terrorist group A and sketchy group B share a country.

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what happened here lads?

>>131000065
If literally the only oppression a small number of assyrians have to report to breitbart is some crappy textbooks I'd say the SDF is doing pretty good there

>>131001026
That had me rolling my eyes too lol

>>131000475
>government-held Syria, polygamy and Sharia courts exist

so fucking what. sharia courts exist in london, some euro countries, israel etc. they are not isis sharia courts. nice implies tho.

>weren't allowed to teach their own language
so fucking what, how does that entitle them to 1/3 of syria? i would very much doubt if I could set up a school in most countries that do not teach in the official language. what would be the point of being an immigrant ( or a kurdish refugee from turkey ) and not learning arabic in an arabic country. if I go to the USA i would be expected to learn english and to teach my kids in english or spanish. If i set up a school with different language how is that a good thing?

beheading dead enemies....sounds ok

and yes there have been incidents. but it's not a standard operating procedure like it is for isis. and we do have video's on youtube of kurds and their supporters talking about ethnic cleansing, and expelling with force those who do not match the label kurd.

>they don't want a state of their own
i am not sure what they want. I am not sure they know what they want. if they want some wishy washy ' wez kangz now' window dressing shit they are welcome to it. If it amounts to anything more, there will be trouble.

>>131000581
Turkistan Islamic Party, right?

>>131001192
looks lik benis

>>131001370
yes

>>131001466
Yep, my thoughts exactly.

>>131001525
111% gasable

Stay comfy /sg/
Bolan, Snus, Deep, Belgian lawgoy, have a good night lads.

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>>131001242
>poor kurds are oppressed, they can't enjoy their culture :(
>but assyrians can be oppressed, i don't care about their culture

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>>131001755
nite ameribro

>>131000475
you can learn Suryoyo in Syria, it's taught at church. Seriously go kill your self and don't tell me how I grew up

>>131001324
>sharia
The point is that Syria is not completely secular and Assad has spent lots of energy trying to appease conservative muslims, rather than trying to make society more secular.

>language
the point is that non-arabs weren't treated equally to arabs, despite being just as native to syria. Many kurds also weren't even given citizenship despite living there for generations.

>war crimes/incidents
the amount of evidence for SDF war crimes pales in comparison to all other factions

>what do they want
they've been clear that they just want local democracy within the national framework of syria and the defeat of ISIS


>>131001787
>posting a KRG supporter tweet
you realize that KRG supporters are the most anti-assyrian of all kurds and celebrate the kurdish massacres of assyrians right? In SDF territory assyrians are allowed to be educated in their own language, something that didn't happen under the Ba'ath

>>131001888
>taught at church
not the same thing as formal education under the state
that'd be like if the only place arabs could learn arabic was at a madrassa or a mosque

>>131001755
Nightynight, have joke i just read:
>Effectively, there are only three true, sovereign nations in the world: China, Russia, and the "international community".

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>>131001242
It isn't tho. And that has been pointed out to you throughout the thread. But you keep reaching...

>>131001755
gn sleep well

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>>131002195
Was she killed to cover something up?

>>131002061
>only place arabs could learn arabic was at a madrassa or a mosque
and so it should remain for foreign minorities you SJW

>>131002061
so, how does that justify the SDF's position your original point was that The Baath party suppressed that identity. You are allowed to be suryoyo or Assyrian or Chaledean, however main language is Arabic. So seriously fuck you and the SDF please die.

>>130995498
Is there a translation?

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>DAMASCUS
>Batch of #Nusra militants exit from #Yarmouk Camp towards #Idlib
Taking the greeeeeen bus

>>131001948
>>131001948
>The point is that Syria is not completely secular
no your point is bullshit. a sharia court ruling over religious divorces for people who want a religious divorce does not make syria any less secular.
anyway, the syrian constitution makes it a islamic state. thats what the people want. it's not up to me to say their indepence is illegitimised by their democratic wishes. and as i said there are sharia courts in london.

>being just as native to syria
they are from turkey. they should go back. 3 generations.

>want local democracy
so like the council. thats fine. they can have local democracy.

>>131002254
>Was she killed to cover something up?
The image of a lovely girl killing herself with an american bullet while trying to fight off ISIS is an image that conjures up feels in western cuckold minds. So more likely that she was an hero for a cause.

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>>131002517

Green bus time!!!

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>>131002517

>>131000475
>In government-held Syria, polygamy and Sharia courts exist.
Technically correct but the implication is wrong. They aren't ISIS style sharia courts that can sentence people to get run over by tanks, in Syria religious communities have a certain ammount of autonomy regarding marriages, inheritage etc.
Doesn't just apply to sunnis but to every religious group.
These sharia courts are civil courts and don't deal with for example criminal or constitutional offenses.

>>131002306
>foreign minorities
assyrians and kurds are literally native to north syria retard
>>131002335
>main language is Arabic
there you go
>The polyethnic character and agenda of society and politics in Jazira Canton in the de facto autonomous Federation of Northern Syria - Rojava led to a blossom in Assyrian life.
>While Syriac-Aramaic was an official language of Jazira Canton from the outset, in August 2016, the Ourhi Centre in the city of Qamishli was started by the Assyrian community, to educate teachers in order to make Syriac-Aramaic an additional language to be taught in public schools,[23][24] which then started with the 2016/17 academic year.
>sutoro militiaman: "the [Assad] regime wants us to be puppets, deny our ethnicity and demand an Arab-only state"

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>>131002855

Hail the enthno state!!!

CAPTCHA was look for images of bus

Kek!

>>131002751
>>131002586
religious courts shouldn't have any authority whatsoever, not even civil cases
the only law should be secular law

>they should go back
Syria is host to many groups, armenians, circassians, kurds, druze, assyrians, arabs. Most of them are indigenous or have lived in syria for a very long time. It's hardly fair to demand that they are all expelled. Besides that, there have been Kurds in syria since before they fled to Syria from Turkey

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So, after isis is down k*rds & coalition are preparing for "boots on the ground" to get rid of Asad. are we gonna enjoy murrikan Vietman-2 soon?

>>131002335
so that justifies spliting Syria in 2 states and Kurds have been very genocidal towards us in the past, t his is just a window dressing for western idiots such as your self.

>>131002855
why the fuck are you copy pasting the wiki? You know that shit is nothing but pro Kurdish propaganda.

>>131003270
The genocidal Kurds were islamists. The SDF is secular and have apologized for the Kurdish role in the massacres in the past. They don't want a separate state.

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>>131003228
Yup

>>131003208
>religious courts shouldn't have any authority whatsoever
why not? it works
think of it as a middle eastern freedom of religion
wouldn't want them here but trying to just remove these civil courts would piss off everyone
why do you think the druze, for example, are backing damascus? it's because hafez and bashar let them do things on their own in their own communities while total integration under shishakli failed miserably

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>>131003439
If they are opposed to the SAA in any way, they have to be exterminated and the SDF is currently a US puppet being used against the SAA

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>>131002855
>muh kurds are natives
Not an argument
literally an imaginary race of mixbred nomads
It's like someone in a thousand years will call unitedstainians a race

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>>131003769
>wouldn't want them here but trying to just remove these civil courts would piss off everyone
who cares what those people think? just bomb them into accepting the burguer way. what could go wrong?

>>131003208
>religious courts shouldn't have any authority whatsoever,
that's like just your opinion, man. it's obviously the choice of the majority of the people in syria that matters, not your opinion of what is acceptable for them. so again, this is a non point. it probably works on people with burger tier education, and it seems even some of them can see through your bs innuendo.

and they don't deal with civil cases. they dont deal with constitutional cases, and they don't deal with criminal matters. no one loses their human rights because of sharia legal practice in syria.

and all those other folks have been in syria for ever. and yes there were some kurds in northern syria prior to 1930. however, as the geographers of the time note, it went from 80 villages to 800 in less than 10 years preceding 1934. thats not natural growth. that means that MOST SYRIAN KURDS ARE INVADERS. and even then they only make up 6% of the population. If the local arabs want a sharia court under syrian law who the fuck are the kurds to say they cannot have it.

the kurds can fuck right off if that's their attitude.

>>131003208
based on what?

cant just make up rules and act like they are obligatory for everyone to follow. That's that SJW Kike Faggot evangelical atheist mentality that has become so established in western minds through brainwashing at the hands of the kikes.

It is a matter of convenience and practicality.

>Assyrian Democratic Organization (ADO), (Syriac: ܡܛܟܣܬܐ ܐܬܘܪܝܬܐ ܕܝܡܩܪܛܝܬܐ; Arabic: المنظمة الآثورية الديمقراطية) also known as "Mtakasta/Mtakasto", founded in Syria in 1957, is the oldest Assyrian political organization in Syria.[3]
>the Assad government has long banned it from political life and restricted its activities in Syria.[4]
>Though officially and incorrectly designated as Arabs by the Syrian Arab Nationalist Baathist government, the Assyrians are a distinct pre-Arab ethnic group with a history in the region dating perhaps as far back as the 25th century BC.
muh assad is protector of the christians tho
ba'ath is totally not a arab chauvinist party

>>131003208
you're what's wrong with our country and it's foreign policy. Western ideology does not work in anywhere else except the west, too many people refuse to accept that and live on with their lives

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>Terror recruits often seem to come from vulnerable backgrounds. But new research suggests that those with traits of Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) could be more at risk of being radicalised. It follows a number of high-profile cases where autism appears to have played a role in the offender’s behaviour. So if people with ASD could be at higher risk, how can we protect them from falling under the spell of terror organisation such as the so-called Islamic State?
>https://theconversation.com/are-people-with-autism-at-greater-risk-of-being-radicalised-76726

>>131004124
>>131003769
>>131004124
wtf why would you support sharia courts that support polygamy and backwards aspects such as female witnesses having less say than male witnesses? the backwardness exists only because it is allowed to exist
>>131004487
it's not about western ideology but about universal values. to deny that is basically to consign them to backwardness via low expectations

>kurds are invaders
1930 was almost 90 years ago. There's barely any kurds around that were born outside of syria. They should have the same rights as other syrian citizens

>>130995498
>#QATAR : Unverified English List of Demands handed to Doha by Kuwait from Saudi , UAE, Egypt, Bahrain
https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/878070558419759104
This is unverified, and it's batshit insane, so possibly real.

>>131004487
people like him is why we are never going to have peace in the middle east, peoples mind don't change with coercive action and ''democracy''

>>131004818
>it's not about western ideology but about universal values
you're baiting, right?

I don't support Sharia courts, I'm just aware that policy is context dependend

>>131004818
so you think they are going to change just because you have a gun pointed to their faces? go kill yourself, i hope some mohamed blows up your family

>BREAKING: Saudi Arabia, other Arab nations demand that Qatar close Al-Jazeera, cut diplomatic ties to Iran, shutter Turkish base - AP
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/878070801819455488
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-ministers-saudi-king-invite-netanyahu-riyadh-1340877182
>Israeli minister calls for full Saudi ties and official Riyadh visit

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>>131004818
>it's not about western ideology but about universal values
FUCK YOU
Egalitarianism is cancer and the reason that the west is as cucked as it is, kill yourself commie scum

>>131004818
>it's not about western ideology but about universal values. to deny that is basically to consign them to backwardness via low expectations
Fuck off, universal values does not exist and will never exist so long as their are multiple races and cultures on this planet. Forcing someone to change their way of life at gun point is not how you go about changing anything, you're just making people want to kill you

>>131005311
The list is unverified tho.
>>131004869

So this article http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/something-rotten-state-saudi-1943008007
talked about the new crown prince establishing relations with Israel seen here >>131005311
and it looks like it may happen

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>>131005666
>universal values does not exist and will never exist so long as their are multiple races and cultures on this planet.
so very true. call it moral relativism i don't give a fuck, africans and pigmies and arabs live by completely different rules than whites and those rules are probably genetically based.

>>131004551
well there's a dead meme

we cant be autists anymore....

we have to weaponise summink else then...


>>131004818
mate you are confused. u do not understand that sharia courts deal with marriage and stuff. i don't care if people want to go to a sharia court if they choose to recognise its authority and procedures.
i care that they don't seek authority over me. but they are not doing that. if people want to be religious, it's their business. and if they want to be divorced or married by sharia law, then let them have it.
as for polygamy, it's hardly practiced in syria ( i mean fucking rare as compared to saudi arabia ). again my president has 4 wives ( i dunno it maybe 7 - but i may be thinking of all his marriages ), some of my countrymen have more than 4 wives. it's what they do. if they have the cultural mechanisms to deal with it then it's cool.
the fact that i don't want sharia for myself, or that i don't want 4 wives should not curtail the men and women who wish to enter into such arrangements, nor should it prevent them from establishing courts over themselves that do not interfere with the functioning of the state or intrude into my life.

there is a backwardness to thinkking that your way is the only way and everybody else must be just like you. you are just a little authoritarian who hasn't been beaten enough.

i have yet to see that you have an argument.

>>131004818
>the same rights as other syrian citizens
I'm cool with that. they clearly are not leaving.

but that does not mean anything other than a passport, a right to vote and a right to state hospitals and state education. agreeing to that makes no space for even 'local democracy'

>>131003439
lol, they larp as different ideologies so they must be different. You never lived among Kurds you know nothing of how they are. You fall for all thiese romance visions of kurds propaganda

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>>131006124
nah. unless you reckon that the cases in the article represents a significant percentage of autists here.

Shiet @AP is on the bandwagon with the list of demands to Qatar so maybe legit indeed.

>>131007257
nah. we seem to be anti-autists or the binary opposite of autists. however we retain the ability to focus like autists and find them in their ratholes.

maybe we are autism 2.0 - a new begining.
or supa-autists or something.

Qatar’s neighbors issue steep list of demands to end crisis

By JOSH LEDERMAN
24 minutes ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Kuwait has given Qatar a list of demands from Saudi Arabia and other Arab nations that includes shutting down Al-Jazeera and cutting diplomatic ties to Iran.

That’s according to a list obtained by The Associated Press from one of the countries involved in the dispute. The document says Qatar has 10 days to comply with all demands.

The list says Qatar must immediately close Turkey’s military base in Qatar and end military cooperation with the NATO member. It also demands an unspecified sum of compensation from Qatar.

Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain cut ties to Qatar this month over accusations the Persian Gulf country funds terrorism. The U.S. has been urging them to produce a list of demands. Kuwait is helping mediate.

>>131007257
lol these are the consequences of an horrible childhood

I can tell you for sure

>>131003439
>still believing k*rdish Taqiyya

>>131008208
ya i bet. imagine calling one's parents infidels then rage bombing yourself in a bathroom stall. poor autist senpai
>>131008121
we are just the good autists.

anyway, I'm out.

Later

>>131009002
peace!

the biggest thing happening in the world is the gulf thing. Imagine if /pol/ had not been (((divided and conquered))), we could have had a red-pilling fest. sad.

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>>131009067
more like (((divided))) lad. but yeah, could've been great. sad!

Night /sg/

>>131003439
>Saudi and Israel puppet
>secular

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Fuck the Americans held in Iran and North Korea, we need to get those jews to safety goyim!
https://twitter.com/jdgreenblatt45/status/877997118421704704

>>131010528
>be kike soldier
>invade Gaza during wartime
>get "kidnapped" by enemy forces
lol can idf kikes be any more pathetic? it's like they were little boys walking in a park.

>>131010528
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDdPyfL9ffA

>>131005311
>Close Al Jazerra

plz

wew
https://twitter.com/macergifford/status/878086351274610689
>

Im going offline for a bit. Im going to Raqqa & I wont leave until ISIS are gone.

Sending my love and respect to whoever reads this

>>131011461
You're not going anywhere, fatty.

bumpity bump

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>>131011461
C U C K
U
C
K C U C

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Are any of these gains on the livemaps verified? that's a lot of the Iraq-Syrian boarder taken if true.

Why do these Western faggots always go fight for the Kurds, but I never see any going over there to join the SAA?

Would the SAA just tell English-speaking white boys to fuck off, not their war etc?

>>131013535

SAA won't accept non-ethnic Syrians.

>>131013535

Bro how TF would you even get into Syria without getting an ass load of questions and possible detainment by SAA, plus if we went we'd be barred from returning home without being put on a watch list.

Another anon said it perfectly, if you're gonna fight for Assad, fight in a Russian PMC in syria.

>>131013627

This is not true actually.

>>131013627
Right, kinda makes sense I guess. Shame they can't set up a pro-Assad militia or something though.

Why has progress been so slow this week?

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/32211/2/
>What are Syria's UK-funded White Helmets doing when they're not proclaiming solidarity with London firefighters and staging fake chemical attacks to provoke a US bombing campaign of their own country?

>A video has hit the internet showing rebels in the southern Dara'a province unloading Syrian army dead from a pick up truck and dumping them at a garbage dump. Some of the soldiers have been beheaded, and the rebels are sure to dangle one of the severed heads for the camera.
>To top it all off, one of the rebels can clearly be see sporting a White Helmets logo.

Apparent translations of Saudi demands to Qatar

1. Qatar must reduce diplomatic representation with Iran

2. Qatar must immoderately shut down the Turkish military base that is being established

3. Qatar must announce severance of ties with terrorist, ideological & sectarian orgs: MB, ISIS, AQ, HTS, Hizbollah

4. Qatar must cease any funding activities to extremist and terrorist individuals

5. Qatar must hand over all designated terrorists

6. Qatar must shut down Al Jazeera and all affiliated channels

7. Qatar must stop interference in these countries' domestic andforeign affairs; stop naturalisation of their citizens; extradite such citizens

8. Qatar must provide reparations to these countries for any opportunity costs incurred over the past few years because of Qatari policies.

9. Qatar must become in sync with its Gulf and Arab neighbourhood on all levels, and to activate Riyadh Agreement 2013/2014

10. Qatar must provide all databases related to oppositionists that it provided support to & clarify what help was provided.

11. Qatar must all media outlets backed by it directly or indirectly, like Arabi21, Rasd, New Arab, Middle East Eye, Mkamlin, Sharq etc

12. These demands must be agreed within 10 days, otherwise they would be invalidated.

13. Agreement will involve clear goals and mechanism, monthly reports in the first year, every three months the next & annually for 10 years

>>131013832

You could join one of the militias maybe, but not directly into the SAA.

>>131013785
All fair points, lad. It's just sad seeing the Kurds get all the cannon fodder.

>>131013846

because you touch yourself at night

>>131014000

>them digits senpai

we can't all be hero's those SAA guys have balls mate, more power to them. Praying for them on the daily

>>131013846

There have been plenty of gains, but most of it has been large swathes of desert.

>>131013899
>1. Qatar must reduce diplomatic representation with Iran
It either means nothing, or they want complete shutdown of Iran relations

>5. Qatar must hand over all designated terrorists
What happened when Austro-Hungary made this ultimatum to us?

>2. Qatar must immoderately shut down the Turkish military base that is being established
Wishful thinking with these demands.

>6. Qatar must shut down Al Jazeera and all affiliated channels
The did not until now, why would they now?

>>131014330
>There have been plenty of gains

Where? Looking at the various maps, it looks like the only gains made have been SDF movement around southern Raqqa city and SAA moving into Raqqa

>>131013899
is there any realistic expectation for these to actually happen? there's no way right?

>>131014468
None whatsoever.

>>131014453

Eastern Aleppo, south-eastern and eastern Palmyra, Damascus/east Ghouta, although i think most of that was given up later, Daraa Offensive is starting to wind up, along with green bus negotiations in the area, etc.

>>130990975
Is Turkey on the US or the Russia side?

>>131014894
they're on their own side

>>131014894

They like to take advantage of the situation because they feel slighted for taking on 2 million refugees and feel like EU dog on a leash, never quite able to get that membership card. They feel like everyone owes them and to an extent, the EU does.

>>131013025
>>131013025
Some news going around that Russia shot down a US drone. Probably fake but letting you know anyway.

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>tfw sun coming up

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>>131013372
It's probable but the location the source mentioned hasn't been correctly pinpointed on the map (i've looked through several to no avail) and frankly we're not going to find out until either T2 or Humaymah is secured...

>>131014743
Alright, thanks. I'd expected a lot of progress around:
* push towards Sukhnah
* closing of (the forming) pocket east of Khanasir
* closing of that pocket east of Sweida

So I was surprised it doesn't look like much, if any, has been made over the last week

>>131015220

Drones don't mean dick, Iran shoots down US drones (or claims to) all the time. Nothing will come of it, even if it actually happened(In which case it will get swept under the rug so the US saves face).

>>131014980
I kinda thought that. I'd like to see that country chopped up like Syria

>>131015313

slow and steady in semi-dense suburban areas, my friend. Its' why East and West Ghouta took 2+years to slowly collapse/get green bussed.

>>131015259

Ya, it seemed a little silly, but possible given terrain and current focuses of SAA.

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>>131013899
>somewhere
>out there
>in a country known as Saudi Arabia
>in some oil-spent mansion that houses a million sons that will end up killing each other over their fathers will
>there actually people
>yes people
>that believe
>that unironically fucking believe
>these terms are reasonable, logical, acceptable and Qatar will accept it

>>131015649
The new crown prince wants a war and he's making sure he gets it

>>131015649

It's just negotiating platforms. Both sides can't negotiate if they don't know where each is coming from. now they do, and Qatar can reject or accept their offer, or bring a counter offer.

>>131015649

read that in the summer blockbuster movie guy voice

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Hi /sg/ what exactly happens here?

>>131015926

ISIS blood bath, and Issam holding a formidable defense for years already

>>131013785
If you just want to enter Syria, it's easy, Lebanon->Damascus bus.
Make sure you bring some bribe and don't have a Israeli stamp on your passport.
There should be some militias that will take westerners, esp. military trained ones.

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>>131015926
This man.

>>131015911
nah m8. these demands are insane. keep in mind that this list is very simliar to the one that floated around when the crisis started and that tillerson cancelled previous engagements this past week to plead with saudis for a reasonable list of demands. looks like he failed.

>>130994906
took me 2 tries to find a not jew on the image, i tried a chick first (bash) but that was a mistake bc women change name when married obviously. Tried Richard Davis next, that doesn't sound Jewish, and he isn't. In fact he's most famous for calling some jap brain dead when she gave him shit over them not covering an attack on israelis in a pro israeli enough way.

>>131016150

This is true, my Aleppo Bro told me thats how they got into the states, took them 15 hours and hella bribe money to get out of syria because of moderate beheaders.

Poor guy has seen what most people never do.

>>130990975
Dead men marching

>>131015926

That's an old map, the pocket is currently split in two. When ISIS overran everyone, including the SAA, a pocket of strong, well seasoned Syrian Loyalist headed by the man known as the Druze Beast held the town in the face of the barbarian hoard, as the saying goes. Still stands to this day, taking in airdrops and awaiting relief from Tiger forces.

Currently ISIS is throwing their bodies into the cemetery (fitting, really), which is at the top middle of your map. ISIS has currently pinched to that location, but can push no further, and have given up strong positions in Palmyra and Aleppo to maintain the siege. They have a vain hope of breaking it as one last victory before everyone drives them underground (probably to Afghanistan/Pakistan).

It's been a focal point of the war for almost 4 years now.

>>131016148
>holding a formidable defense for years already
That is fascinating. I was looking at this map and saw an isle of red in a sea of black.
http://isis.liveuamap.com/

How are they able to do it?

>>131016281
>>131015911
The new crown prince does not want to negotiate according to this article written yesterday
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/something-rotten-state-saudi-1943008007

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>>131016399
Aren't we all?

>>131016468

airdrops.

>>131016541

We'll see I guess. Larger powers want this schism over with fast.

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>>131015926

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>>131016556
yes we are

>>131016468
High spirits, General Issam, airdrops for resupply and the belief in god watching over them as they hold their ground

>>131016434
Amazing story. Any idea how many people or loyalists fighters are besieged there?

>>131016434
>the top middle of your map
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35.319923&lon=40.129108&z=15&m=b&show=/20851073/Cemetery

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>>131016281
>looks like he failed.

I found it more impressive they still think that everyone they back doesnt turn out to be completely shit and whenever theres a more logical idea they act like contrarians based on arbitrary retardation

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The Gulf States will go through their renaissance, and rid itself of salafist cancer.

You people may not believe in Trump, but /pol/ does.

>>131014894
They're back to paling around in syria. Think the russian diplomat assassination actually brought them closer after their air disaster. Russia is heavily invested in turkey, med access, tourism, etc etc

>>131016727

They receive reinforcements regularly from the fully operating airbase in the area. Estimates put a garrison within the airbase and the nearby Army base at somewhere around 5k (although that includes support staff, so probably 2-2.5k actual front line fighters) at any given time, along with daily assigned sorties from SyAA and RuAF as well as a full compliment (or there's supposed to, who knows what attrition is currently at) of mechinized infantry and tank battalion.

>>131016847
>and rid itself of salafist cancer.
>while murrica protecting main source of salafi islam
TOP FUCKING KEK

>>131014343
>What happened when Austro-Hungary made this ultimatum to us?
1/4 of serbian population got killed by austria

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>>131016468
They have strong positions and besides the republican guards, they fly in as much reinforcements as is needed.
They've been encircled for almost 4 years and Damascus will do anything to keep it since it cements Assads position in eastern Syria.

>>131016657
>larger powers want this schism over fast
not like they haven't been trying lad. past 2wks have been a phone call and shuttle diplomacy bonanza
>>131016541
ya i read that. MBS is like a salafist version of Trump. no wonder they did the sword dance together. prolly got along too.
>>131016838
they are insane.
>>131016847
>trump will rid the gulf from salafism
this is bait right?

>>131017125
>fully operating airbase
Wrong. They can't land on it anymore.

>>131017436

helis still can i think.

>>131016468

Basically what these guys said
>>131016569
>>131016727

And yes around 2k fighters holed up there, hoping by 2018 they'll be reunited with the SAA and they can get some good R&R for a few days at the very least.

Definitely one of the most epic sieges of history, Issam is like there Theodosian Wall. If he falls I fear DeZ falls.

>>131016847
>it's a "blame obama for everything wrong in the world" post
>implying it's not everything since WW2 that has led to this garbage

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So this is a thing soon right?

>>131017722
we'll see in 10 days

>>131017722
No sure about Qatar, but at least Iran and Turkey now have a lot of common.

>>131017722
inshallah, jews k*rds and saud scum btfo