/Christ/chan CHRISTIAN GENERAL - JESUS IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH,

God bless you anons.

Have a blessed day everyone!

Can I still have the urge/desire/motivation to genocide groups of people I don't like if I'm a christian? Serious, not trolling
>e.g: everyone who drives 10 under in the left lane on the freeway should be rounded up and put in the FEMA camps

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>>130950631

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>>130951543

Catholocism is the only real Christianity. Protestants get the fuck out. You might as well be an atheist.

Are the Bible Students redpilled?

>>130951465
Of course. People like David and Saul did fucked up shit (let alone just think it in their heads) and were still saved and were still believers. You're a Christian if you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. It's another matter of whether you're a good one or not.

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>>130951754
Why focus on our differences when we can unite with our similarities?

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>>130951594
>>130951594
Wrong racemixing is a sin in the bible
> And if a man lie with a BEAST, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the BEAST .And if a woman approach unto ANY BEAST, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the BEAST: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
>But let man and BEAST be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.

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>>130950631
Indeed

My Bible by King James is taking forever to come here, and I couldn`t find any complete copies of Plutarch anywhere.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUyWmmWtcFM
Does anybody knows who is this person?
He talks about economy with a Christian perspective but I can`t find info on him anywhere, I found his company, I know where it is, but I wanted the name of the individual to search for the 300 books he mentions during the seminar.

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>>130952216
Rick Wiles talks about a similar dream he had about an imminent financial downturn

https://www.spreaker.com/user/trunews/trunews-06-19-17

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>>130950631
why not use a better picture? All the great christian themed art throughout the ages and you use a tacky image like that?

>>130952216
According to one of the youtube comments:
This is Don Fletcher. He lived in the San Francisco Bay Area (La Honda) He was seized by IRS in January, 2002. Spent time in Lompoc and Texas. Died in prison April, 2004. Yes, he took his Christianity pretty seriously.

>>130952674
It`s a dead end, or they erased everything about the guy.

>>130952674
His company is on one of the British Isles.
>http://www.templefinancialgroup.com/
>Turks & Caicos Islands
I got stuck in a dead end, I emailed them but they didn`t answered.

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>>130952624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecV1NHmELuA

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>>130951682
>Catholocism is the only real Christianity. Protestants get the fuck out. You might as well be an atheist.

Oh sweetheart.

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Isaiah 53:9
>And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, H2555 neither was any deceit in his mouth.

One shill keeps posting that this proves that Jesus never used the whips in the temple to physically drive out the (((money changers))) that he was just using it to scare them not actually physcially damage them. This is to prove that wrong by showing what the word means. "Violence" is the word "chamac" in hebrew it means "malicious intent" specifically. Strongs is H2555.

Chronicles 12
>And David went out to meet them, and answered and said unto them, If ye be come peaceably unto me to help me, mine heart shall be knit unto you: but if ye be come to betray me to mine enemies, SEEING THAT THERE IS NO VIOLENCE (H2555) IN MINE HANDS, the God of our fathers look thereon, and rebuke it.

- Note this is after David became King, long before hand he killed plenty of men, including Goliath (whose head he cut off for display); along with other brutal examples as seen below.

1 Samuel 18
> And Saul said, Thus shall ye say to David, The king desireth not any dowry, but an hundred foreskins of the Philistines, to be avenged of the king's enemies. But Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines. And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king's son in law: and the days were not expired.Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king.

1 Chronicles 11
>Eleazer was WITH DAVID at Pasdammim, and there the Philistines were gathered together to battle, where was a parcel of ground full of barley; and the people fled from before the Philistines.AND THEY set themselves in the midst of that parcel of land, and delivered it, AND SLEW THE PHILISTINES; and the Lord saved them by a great deliverance.

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Genesis
>The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence (H2555)

Psalms
>The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence (H2555) his soul hateth.

Genesis
>And Sarai said unto Abram, My WRONG (H2555) be upon thee: I have given my maid into thy bosom; and when she saw that

she had conceived, I was despised in her eyes: the LORD judge between me and thee.

Exodus
> Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an UNRIGHTEOUS (H2555) WITNESS.

Deuteronomy
> If a FALSE (H2555) WITNESS rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those

days...ect ect

Ezekiel
> Make a chain: for the land is full of BLOODY CRIMES, and the city is full of violence (H2555).

Joel
> Egypt shall be a desolation, and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness, for the violence (H2555) against the children of Judah, because they have SHED INNOCENT BLOOD in their land.

Habbakuk
>Because thou hast spoiled many nations, all the remnant of the people shall spoil thee; because of MEN'S BLOOD (i.e. being shed profusely), and for the VIOLENCE (H2555) of the land, of the city, and of all that dwell therein.

Malachai
>For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence (H2555) with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that YE DEAL NOT TREACHEROUSLY.

Obediah
For thy violence (H2555) against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever (genocided).
- Here the text says that this "violence" is betrayal against a benefactor and then murdering their innocents and selling the rest into sex slavery. Again it has to do with treachery and murder not righteous war.

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Romans 13 Saint Paul on Just War and Executions


>Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.

Can any Christanons answer a question for me?
The closest I have ever felt to God was when I was obliterated after eating pot cookies and smoking a bowl by myself. It is the sole reason I am considering Christianity. The experience was so powerful. I know that it was because of a serious chemical train wreck in my brain, but nothing, not even close brushes with death have felt so impactful. Was it sin to do that and to try and do it again. Though I have not been able to repeat it.

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Nehemiah
>Therefore set I in the lower places behind the wall, and on the higher places, I even set the people after their families with their swords, their spears, and their bows.
>hey which builded on the wall, and they that bare burdens, with those that laded, every one with one of his hands wrought in the work, and with the other hand held a weapon.For the builders, every one had his sword girded by his side, and so builded. And he that sounded the trumpet was by me.

Hebrews
And what more shall I say? For time would fail me to tell of Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, of David and Samuel and the prophets— who through faith conquered kingdoms, enforced justice, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, quenched the power of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, were made strong out of weakness, became mighty in war, put foreign armies to flight.

Luke
>“Soldiers also asked him, ‘And we, what shall we do?’ And he said to them, ‘do not shake them up (to extort) or by false accusation, and be content with your wages.’ ”

Luke
>And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no moneybag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one. For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about me has its fulfillment.” And they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.” And he said to them, “It is enough.”

John
Then Simon Peter, having a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant and cut off his right ear. (The servant’s name was Malchus.) So Jesus said to Peter, “Put your sword into its sheath; shall I not drink the cup that the Father has given me?”
-He said not to throw it away BUT TO PUT IT BACK.

Acts 10 - Peter does not refuse baptism of a Roman Centurion

>>130950631
>>130951256
preach to the mole men

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Acts 23 - Paul calls in the Roman Army to protect him from a mob of Kikes
> “When it was day, the Jews made a plot and bound themselves by an oath neither to eat nor drink till they had killed Paul. There were more than forty who made this conspiracy... Now the son of Paul's sister heard of their ambush, so he went and entered the barracks and told Paul. Paul called one of the centurions...But do not be persuaded(yield to) by them, for more than forty of their men are lying in ambush for him, who have bound themselves by an oath neither to eat nor drink till they have killed him. ...Then he called two of the centurions and said, “Get ready two hundred soldiers, with seventy horsemen and two hundred spearmen to go as far as Caesarea at the third hour of the night.Also provide mounts for Paul to ride and bring him safely to Felix the governor.”

Ecclesiastes
>There is a time to kill a time to heal

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Luke 12 - Jesus speaks well of beating slaves to death. Literally
>If the servant sayeth in his heart
>"My lord delayeth his coming"
>and shall begin to beat the servants and maidens
>and eat and drink and be drunken
>The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh for him not.
>and at an hour that is he not aware
>And he will cut him into pieces
>and will appoint his portion with the faithless.
>And that servant which knew his Lord's will
>and did not prepared
>nor commit to his will
>he shall be beaten with many stripes.
>But he that knew not
>and did not commit things worthy of stripes
>he shall be beaten with only a few stripes
>For unto much is given much is required.

Which is a quotation from Sirach here.
>But of these things do not be ashamed,
>lest you sin to save face:
>Of the Law of the Most High and his precepts,
>or of justice that acquits the ungodly;
>Of sharing the expenses of a business or a journey,
>of dividing an inheritance or property;
>Of accuracy of scales and balances,
>of tested measures and weights;
>Of acquiring much or little,
>of bargaining in dealing with a merchant;
>Of constant training of children,
>OF BEATING OF THE SIDES OF A WICKED SERVANT


Luke 14:31-32 - Jesus speaks well of large expensive armies.
>Or what king would go to war against another king without first sitting down to consider whether his ten thousand soldiers could go up against the twenty thousand coming against him? And if he didn’t think he could win, he would send a representative to discuss terms of peace while his enemy was still a long way off.

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>>130952994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XHXUqXV34w

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What you doing here dude? 4chan is ocuppated by post pagan cucks and nazis! Theres no place for JUST CHRISTIAN DUDE.They gonna kill you and call you jew.Hope you will surviwe

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Bump for Justice!
Spread the good word, keep calm, and physically remove communists at all costs.

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>>130956594
“You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do men light a candle and put it under a basket, but on a candlestick. And it gives light to all who are in the house. Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify your Father who is in heaven." (Matthew 5:14-16)

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>>130950631
That christianity shit just doesnt work in reality. Pic related

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GREGORIAN CHANTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv_2x6JmuaE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDGnmlg2Ww0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI4lkqYzJvM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK5AohCMX0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr90NLDp-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxjYWvF5ttc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhP654dN3Ww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ych_dTX8G0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGgB0bf2PHU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX9xVnHYFAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sieHX3tPeRw&t=123s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX9bYNK5oC0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_gaT-tnpKk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-5mx5o8YYs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70YDpSo2MRI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Ekot38tV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IxYXGfdGcQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf3scPRLGFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKpexxzR4Ak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6JJCaf9e7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNMQu5LXaeI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dV5b8AuLHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRhRzdiCk7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRi1GDoaQu4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_8Nrx-67EY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74d3gWJOV-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkdtYIPN9ic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU4ycRzwqDc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPQ4F9Xd45w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noetoc2W4Pc - 1.5x speed is recomended by anon.

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>show m best friend this red pill
>tells me: "I fully support the Frankfurt school!! If anything, they helped the masses understand the ways in which they were being manipulated by the media and comprehend the marketing strategies that were being used to do so. And this is the worst model I have ever come across"

what do I do guys??? She's reading about communism and Marxism a lot lately, I also fear it's turning her into an atheist.

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Sirach justification for killing people according to the Lord
>Better is death than a wretched life,
>everlasting sleep than constant illness.

why does muslims have two flags, while we only have the dues vult one?

>>130952216
>From a Christian perspective
I hope he denounces usury and the kikes that practice it.

>>130951789
Gtfo heretic

10 Not only that, but Rebekah’s children were conceived at the same time by our father Isaac. 11 Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: 12 not by works but by him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.”[d] 13 Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”[e]

14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”[f]
16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?

22 What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?

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>>130958803
http://evangelicalarminians.org/robert-hamilton-election-in-romans-chapter-nine/

Election just means Israel called to bear prophecy and write the scriptures

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>worshiping a dead kike on a stick

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>>130959355

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>>130959355
No one here cares about your opinion, gosh don't you have something else to do other than posting "dead kike on a stick"
Congratulations this post would give you a (you) and your daily dose of dopamine

>>130959355
>trying to sabotage a thread and failing

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>>130950631

>>130959355
>dead

He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
(Matthew 28:6)

>>130959908
polish jew get out of here , it's not even your faith
get lost

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>>130955571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1IPYipEw-Q

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>>130959908
I actually have seen quite a few mircles, and even done some, but I when I do tell people they suggest I be put in the loony bin even though I have wittnesses, now you know why, in the West you can no longer speak about your experiences freely.

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>>130960687
Care to share your testimony if you don't mind? Thanks brother

>>130950631
Christian white male trump voter reporting in. We own the south.

>>130959908
Ignoring the passive aggression, this is a pretty fascinating aspect of Christianity. God performs progressively less impressive miracles as the book goes on. He begins by creating the universe and NEVER tops that. Is there some theological significance to this?

>>130960687
Miracles are a normal part of Christian life, or should be, I've seen plenty during my last weekend and even healed one Muslim girl from foot pain myself in Doetinchem (city in Holland, that's where the event was)

So many people got set free from demons (yes, Christians can have demons) and one guy got healed from Arthritis who was in a wheelchair.

80 people got baptized that day too.

Praise the Lord, we serve a living loving God :)

>>130960813
Sure I don't know who would beleive in such things, but I have prayed that it would snow in my county in July, and it happened once, fucking serious, and it wasn't a possible thing in that place, (not in mts or anything). I drove a junker car, great car, but it was totaly totally busted and it would break down (beyond repair) i'd just pray and it get up and run again BUT ONLY AFTER I PRAYED. Not even once did I try to fix it. I've had many experience with totally bizarre circumstances in timing and place that nobody could predict or orchestrate. Ive had vivid dreams from the Lord and then that very thing happen the next morning, but only totally bizarre things and nobody ever does and never happen. Things like that. Ive had dreams where I would be told something in another language by God and then Id wake up in look up the word, in dead languages I knew nothing about, and after long hours of searching I'd find out the word was repeated to me in English in the dream before hand by God. Totally wierd stuff like that. Thre are many circumstances when I complained aloud to the Lord for a storm to stop (big storm) and then itd just stop just like that an dit get really sunny, too many times to count. Whenever I complain to GOd about the whether ti gets better immediately. I have wittnesses. Nothing fancy but it's spoopy stuff

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>>130961539
>Sure I don't know who would beleive in such things
I believe. All Glory and Honor goes to the Father. God bless.

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>>130962098
Thanks

>>130960856
Christian white male trump voter southener master race

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>>130961272
>While it is scientifically known that blood once removed from the body soon coagulates and eventually spoils, and since this natural reaction was common knowledge among the medical faculty of the Middle Ages, a claim made by them of remarkable liquefacations can hardly be ignored and would seem to indicate a transcendence of their experience...The best known and most intensely studied is the yearly blood miracle of St. Januarius (St. Gennaro) that occurs is Naples each year. The recurring miracle of the liquefaction of his blood 18 times a year is often reported in the secular as well as the religious press, and is the occasion of great gatherings in the Cathedral of Naples. Here the people pray fervently while the resident cardinal, who usually presides over the ceremony, holds the vials of blood. The miracle occurs when the bust reliquary containing the head of the saint is brought near. When the liquefaction is accomplished in full view of the spectators, the cardinal announces, "The miracle has happened," words that cause great rejoicing and the chanting of the Te Deum. In the 14th century there occurred a phenomenon that was to attract curiosity throughout the centuries until even today the happenings pro¬voke worldwide interest:
The year was 1389. A procession was making its way about the ca¬thedral when the priest holding the flasks containing the saint's coagulated blood noticed that the contents began to liquefy and bubble. Since then the blood has repeated this phenomenon 18 times each year: on the Saturday before the first Sunday in May and the eight days fol¬lowing; on the feast of the saint, September 19, and during the octave, and on December 16.

>>130950631
I just quit my job. Itvwas creating a large amount of stress on me physically and mentally. I do have a chance at a new job that pays double with better people and benefits. Please pray for me that I can get it, anons?

God bless you all.

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Don't forget, /pol/ is a christian board.

>>130963244
deal
>>130961243
yes, that you leave thread as well

>>130963244
Just prayed for you

Ask and believe that you have received that job, but most importantly always pray that God's will be done, not your own will.

God bless!

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>>130963244
“Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you, and learn from Me. For I am meek and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy, and My burden is light.” (Matthew 11:28-30)

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>>130950631
worshiping a kike...
dishonor your ancestors
I have no words
One day Odin will stand at your door, the one you call "the eternal jew", and he will not give you any mercy.

I will let you traitors be, this will be my only post.

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For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Ephesians 2: 8-9 kjv

Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ if you want the gift of god, which is heaven, god bless all of the lost people of /pol/ who still haven't converted to christianity, and may god enlighten their way

>>130963795
jewish filth talk

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>>130963710
>worshiping a kike...
Jesus is the Son of God, not just some ethinicity

>dishonor your ancestors
Evolution is a lie. Our ancestor is Adam, who was supernaturally created by God. Those who believe in Jesus' name are God's children. All life on this Earth is recent (6,000-12,000 years ago) but this Earth and Universe may be much older than that.

>>130963966
kys you massive faggot, you keep calling christianity a jewish religion with zero knowledge of what the bible says about (((them))).

Go suck odin's cock you degenerate nigger

>>130963966
Which portions are 'bad'? Besides, the evil in Jewish speech is the lie, not the fact that they speak.
Or do you also go against Bobby Fischer when he demands that millions of Jews be killed?

Atavistic retardation should be avoided.

>>130957126
Your country is proof that it does work. Your people survived Jewish endgame rule.

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>>130964035
Baldur is the son of God, the one you call Jesus.
He was immortal, but hat one weakness. Misteltoe. That's why you kiss under it.
But after Ragnarök Jesus/Baldur will return, and he will become God.

t. Heiðingi
I let you be now in respect, you always bomb our threads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6j7mUxGz20

When Jesus comes back, how will you know it's actually him and not just some lunatic who is pretending? There's plenty of those around already and nobody believes them.

>>130964178
ᛁᛟᚢ᛬ᚲᚲᚾᛟᚹ᛬ᛒᛖᛏᛏᛖᚱ᛬ᚦᚨᚾ᛬ᚦᛁᛊ᛬ᛈᛖᚲᚲᚨ᛭ᛞᛟ᛬ᚾᛟᛏ᛬ᚠᚨᛚᛚ᛬ᚠᛟᚱ᛬ᚦᛖᛊᛖ᛬ᛃᛖᚹᛁᛊᚺ᛬ᛏᚱᛁᚲᚲᛊ᛭᛬ᚺᚨᛁᛚ᛬ᛟᛞᛁᚾ

>>130964373
Honestly, we are not supposed to be surprised by the similarities of pre-Christian religions and Christianity. Although we ought to expect a fairly strict distinction between satanic religions and "pseudo-Christian" ones.

It is Christian dogma that we are the fulfillment of the righteous yearning of all of Creation. The Church is the Bride of Christ and will give birth.

>>130964857
>Orjakieltä

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>>130964373
>Baldur is the son of God, the one you call Jesus.
What you're worshipping are the Nephilim which fallen angels and hybrids, they first came about during the days of Noah before The Flood:


There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. (Genesis 6:4)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du_QctRoGm0

>>130965097
I think that the Nephilim would be the Giants and Titans of old religions.

>>130964904
>>130964951
I will let you be, as long as you do not perform seið Pekkas! NO SEIÐ! OKAY?
Finnic magic is very strong

The cross was enough, OP.
Jesus said the only way to the father is through him. Deeds are for this world. True salvation is through faith.

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comp from the last thread

>>130965516
wrong thread?
I'm not sure how this is relevant

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>>130965392
We already made Swedes gay. All they had to do was to leave the divine protection of Christ, and our century old magic could work.

nobody answered my question :(
guys I need advice on this:
>>130957944

>>130965779
commie in the previous thread was ranting about how Quantum Mechanics is a bourgeoisie lie to prove Christianity

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>>130957944
>what do I do guys??? She's reading about communism and Marxism a lot lately, I also fear it's turning her into an atheist.
You pray for her

It's not your job to convert her, that's her job. Your job is to deliver the message and live like Christ. Let your light shine through you so she may see it and believe. You need to be ruthless when it comes to Christianity. Some will reject the Truth.

Look at what they did to Jesus when He was walking around on this Earth 2,000 years ago. They hated Him so much they nailed Him to the cross. If Jesus were to return again in that form today, the world would get angry and nail Him on the cross again. This time, even some so-called Christians would partake in it.

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>>130966103
Also if arguments and logic don't work, send some testimony videos to her from OP

>>130965516
I actually understand how this guy feels. He has strict beliefs and does not cower from the implications of a theory. The connection with Quantum mechanics and God is quite easy to make.
However, the proof is against him, and so is reality. Double slit experiment proves without a doubt that quantum mechanics do exist. There are more, of course, but it is the simplest one to prove.

>>130957944
>that picture
I see you're avoiding mentioning the obvious

>>130966103
>she
Do not discuss politics with women. They were barred from the subject because they abused the poor ol' civilization to the point of death.
If you can sell society as a cute kitten to them, they would care, but now it is the place electricity, money and power come from.

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>>130961243
>God performs progressively less impressive miracles as the book goes on. He begins by creating the universe and NEVER tops that.

>>130967063
>less impressive miracles
Not at all! The death of ungodly civilizations, the massive cuckening, happenings in the forms of earthquakes and storms, weird shit in the sky, meme magic- it was all as promised. Most of it is possible to know of now.
Which is interesting, because we were specifically promised knowledge of these perils.

>>130966511
thanks, I am praying for her
but she's too stubborn
>>130966757
good point, but the main issue is communism
>>130966918
what obvious?
>>130967019
I am also a woman :^)

>>130967519
>I am also a woman :^)
God sure loves to do this to me. But do tend to acknowledge that most of us on /pol/ exaggerate.

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>/pol/ is comprised of these kinds of mouth breathers
As someone who lives in a country with an overwhelmingly high percentage of Christians and having had to deal with a devout Christian's bullshit for a whole year, every day, I can only hope you all get gassed. You people are fucking egocentric delusional and hypocritical retards and I hope you all get nailed.

That is all, have fun in the thread.

>>130967728
>remove churches from power
>watch laymen go insane with their ideas
Who could have predicted this?

>>130967722
I'm not lying
I would've lied and mentioned my friend as he instead of she to avoid this kind of thing
but I've don't way too much, and as a Christian I really want eternal life and I'm training my self to lie less

>>130968395
I've done*

>>130963795
We call this food Eucharist; and no one else is permitted to partake of it, except one who believes our teaching to be true and who has beenwashed in the washing which is for the remission of sins and for regeneration [Baptism], and is thereby living as Christ has enjoined. For not as common bread nor common drink do we receive these; but since Jesus Christ our Savior was made incarnate by the word of God and had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so too, as we have been taught, the food which has been made into the Eucharist by the Eucharistic prayer set down by Him, and by the change of which our blood and flesh is nourished, is both the flesh and the blood of that incarnated Jesus. [First Apology 66 (c. 151 AD)]

>>130968395
It's not that I don't believe you, it is just that the same thing happens with everything aside from Jews.
>Make a simplified claim
>Instantly get the full spectrum of truth in your face, and realize that you probably harmed someone you'd rather not harm
Pick a sword, fall to a sword.

op, why the hell you link to satanic ESV? if someone is using this board they are smart enough to read the KJV

>>130968661
Sorry proddies

Jesus said you must eat his flesh

>>130968347
>don't remove churches from power
>see your country turning into a western version if Islam with out equivalent of Sharia Law
No thanks, the Middle Ages were enough.

>>130968734
Sola Fide is against the church fathers

>>130968788
What was so bad about the medieval times, aside from your programming and myth of eternal and accelerating progression (despite no goal)?

>>130968897
Protestantism is cancer

>>130968833
I know.

>>130963710
lol, Christianity is one of the most antisemitic religions out there. You would know this, if you know, had any knowledge about what you're talking about.

Matthew 25:31-46 - 31When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee and hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Sola Fide?

>>130969069
Good good

>>130968395
>as a Christian I really want eternal life
if youve ever put all your trust in Jesus, you cant lose eternal life.

1 John 5:13

These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

>>130969282
Don't forget this,

Paul’s agreement with the leaders of the Jerusalem church that charity be essential to his mission as apostle to the Gentiles is then fleshed out in numerous allusions and appeals to practices of almsgiving in the letters ascribed to Paul.3 Not only did Paul spend a number of years organizing a relief fund for “the poor among the saints in Jerusalem” (Rom 15:26) among the largely Gentile churches of his mission, but his letters both encourage readers to share material resources with the needy (Rom 12:13, 16; Eph 4:28; 1 Thess 5:14; Titus 3:14; cf. Gal 6:9-10) and refer to specific practices of caring for the poor, including communal meals (1 Cor 11:17-34; cf. 2 Thess 3:6-13) and provision for widows (1 Tim 5:3-16). Indeed, when discussing the Jerusalem collection in a letter to the Corinthians, Paul reminds his readers in Corinth that participation in the collection is a means of glorifying God “by your obedience to the confession of the gospel of Christ and by the generosity of your partnership-forming contribution (kοινωνία) for them and for all” (2 Cor 9:13). Here Paul intimates that Corinthian kοινωνία for believers in Jerusalem, as demonstrated through material support for the collection, would be one particular manifestation of practices of generosity and almsgiving to which the Corinthians would be committed for all.4 Moreover, Paul himself, according to his testimony, often lived in or near a state of material deprivation (1 Cor 4:11-12; 2 Cor 11:23-27; Phil 4:11-12) and regularly worked to support himself through manual labor (1 Thess 2:9; 2 Thess 3:7-9; 1 Cor 4:12; 9:3-12; 2 Cor 11:27; cf. Acts 18:3; 20:34-35). 5

>>130963710
>MUH ANCESTUHS
My ancestors have been Christian for thousands of years. I'm not dropping the religion of my family and my people to try and pick up what my ancient, unknown "ancestors" dropped countless centuries ago.

>>130968897
Let's see:
- lowest living conditions for the lower classes
- lack of education for the masses
- indoctrination
- which hunts
- "holy wars"
- repression of science and general human advancement
- actual regression in every domain (except maybe art which is debatable) from previous centuries
Am I missing something?

>>130969387
This is the source

http://www.academia.edu/26080643/Alms_Charity_Reward_and_Atonement_in_Early_Christianity._Waco_Baylor_University_Press_2016

Page 145

Sola Fide?

>>130950631
Jesus was a vegetarian yogi with an Essene sex cult where they ate aborted fetuses for spiritual gainz.

Idol worshipping faggot.

>>130969462
Footnote 6 at page 146:
6 Negatively, failure to care mercifully for the poor subjects the Corinthians to Paul’s censure (1 Cor 11:17) and divine judgment (1 Cor 11:27-32). In his critical assessment of the Corinthians’ failure to practice the Lord’s Supper, Paul indicts the Corinthians for showing contempt to the “have-nots,” presumably because some of the “have-nots” are not sufficiently provisioned by this substantive meal while others drink (and eat) to excess (1 Cor 11:21-22). In contrast, Paul encourages the Corinthians to recognize that—unless the community embodies a concern for others, particularly the poor, modeled on the self-giving love of Jesus Christ—it cannot rightly proclaim the Lord’s death (11:20, 23-26). Paul exhorts the Corinthians not to eat of the bread or drink of the cup of the Lord’s Supper without discerning the corporate body of Christ—i. e., at the very least feeding all members of Christ’s body—or else they will invoke divine judgment against themselves (11:28-29). In fact, Paul implies that failure rightly to discern the body of Christ during this corporate meal has already resulted in weakness, illness, and death among some members of the community (11:30). This claim may imply that both those who overconsume and those whose hunger is neglected suffer harmful physical consequences as a result of the distorted practice of the Lord’s Supper at Corinth. An interesting text in light of Paul’s claim in 1 Cor 11:30 is Herm. Vis. 3.9.2–5a: “Now listen to me and be at peace among yourselves, and be concerned with one another and assist one another; and do not partake of God’s creation in abundance by yourselves, but also share with those in need.

>>130969605
cont.
For by overeating some people bring on themselves fleshly weaknesses and injure their flesh, while the flesh of those who do not have anything to eat is injured because they do not have enough food, and their bodies are wasting away. This lack of community spirit is harmful to those of you who have, yet do not share with those in need. Look to the coming judgment” (translation from Michael W. Holmes, The Apostolic Fathers: Greek Texts and English Translations [3rd ed.; Grand Rapids: Baker, 2007], 487–89).

Sola Fide?

>>130968395
>as a Christian I really want eternal life
Why would you want that? Eternity is a really really long time, you will get to know every atom of the universe in and out and you will be bored out of your skull of living. You'll want to die and you won't be able to, just think about it further than what your books tell you.

>>130969584
I'm sure you totally have credible proof for that other than the voices in your diseased mind telling you this.

>>130969437
>- lowest living conditions for the lower classes
Not everywhere and not all the time.
>- lack of education for the masses
Paper was expensive, and it didn't help that vikings, bandits and armies raided the monasteries.
> indoctrination
That's universal across the times.
>Witch hunts
What happens when you do teach the lower classes how to read. Renaissance, not medieval. [maybe the witches were hindering our advancement with their curses :^) ]
>"holy wars"
Most of which were good.
> repression of science and general human advancement
Universal to humans. Talk about race or quantum mechanics and its implications and see what happens.
>actual regression in every domain (except maybe art which is debatable) from previous centuries
Debunked myth.

Isn't god supposed to be unknowable?

>>130969462
You aren't posing an argument and I can't tell if you agree with me or oppose me. Try speaking more and pasting less.

http://www.academia.edu/9407721/_Love_Covers_a_Multitude_of_Sins_Redemptive_Almsgiving_in_1_Peter_4_8_and_its_Early_Christian_Reception

Sola Fides

>>130968734
sorry, I didn't fully get that. you speak like some Japanese sensei

but you're probably true about not discussing politics to women
and I generalize all the time, it's because of the stereotypes (which applies to the majority)
But friend was reading the communist manifesto, and I had to do something

>>130969282
>"Remember the devil also believes in God" - someAnon
sin will hold us back from eternal life

>>130970044
You sure hate to reference the Holy Bible, dont you?

>>130969921
>Debunked myth.
Let us speak of the trained rape animals of the Romans? No? Slavery! No? Chaos and inflation! No?

>>130970088
>sin will hold us back from eternal life
Sin already holds us back from eternal life. It is only through Jesus Christ that we may be justified for His sake.

>>130969982
If you spend some time reading what I just cited which is from a Protestant source published by a Protestant institution you would realize that what I said destroys your point and explains it in depth

>>130950631
I am not really a god boy but when you are down and out the church and christ will give your life purpose again.

>>130953130
>sweetieposting in 20XX
What are you fuckin' gay?

>>130970125
>Biblical scholarship
>Hate the bible
And to top it all off, it is written by a professor from a Protestant seminary

>>130970088
>"Remember the devil also believes in God" - someAnon
The devil tried to troll Jesus into killing Himself, I don't think he would humble himself to be saved, nevermind the fact that the gospel only applies to humans.

>>130970350
Abstract
When the author of 1 Peter declares that ‘love covers a multitude of sins’(1 Pet. 4:8), this affirmation does not clearly name the actor(s) and/or therecipient(s) of such love, nor does the statement indicate whether it is thesubject(s) or object(s) of love whose sins are covered. Among early Christianand patristic advocates of redemptive almsgiving, however, 1 Pet. 4:8 isfrequently cited to support the notion that providing material assistanceto the poor covers (or in some way alleviates) the sins of donors. Thisessay explores 1 Pet. 4:8 in the light of its early Christian reception, focusingparticularly on the identity of the actor who displays love and the relation-ship between the removal of sins through the death of Christ and thealleviation of sins through human love in early appropriations of 1 Pet.4:8. The study shows that early Christian advocates of redemptive almsgivingemploy this text in documents that emphasize both the unique, atoningsignificance of the cross and the possibility of sin remission through thepractice of almsgiving. This exercise in
Wirkungsgeschichte
, therefore, hasthe potential to reshape interpretative traditions that would sever any con-nection between human love and atonement in the reading of 1 Pet. 4:8

>>130969929
Yeah but it doesn't hurt to get a better understanding, even if we never get the entire truth

Thinking about predestination scares me.

>>130970304
Romans 3:4
God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

>>130970387
The end of all things is near. Therefore, be sensible and self-controlled for prayers. 8 Above all, have constant love for one another,because love covers a multitude of sins . 9 Be hospitable to one anotherwithout grumbling. 10 Each of you should employ whatever gift he orshe has received to serve one another as faithful administrators of themany forms of God’s grace. 11 If anyone speaks, that person shouldspeak as one speaking words from God. If anyone serves, that person should serve with the strength God supplies, so that in all things Godmight be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belong glory anddominion forever and ever. Amen. ( 1 Pet. 4 : 7 – 11 )

>>130970423
Who do we get that understanding from, though? Other people who know more about god? How the fuck do they know?

>>130970217
then..
we should repent and stop sinning
and pray more

>>130950631
faith is not about works, "lest any man boast".

New Testament is literally explaining absolute faith in Jesus is all that is needed to reach the Kingdom of heaven; with knowing and trusting that GOD sent His only Son we are able to receive glory at the coming of Christ. knowing and trusting 100% helps to make everything else fall in place.

don't be a literal Jew.

>>130970473
No wonder Paul had to literally write to Christians who were abusing the Lord's Supper and even condemn them for doing that

wow Sola Fide

>>130970464
Calvinism is stupid

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>>130969437
>repression of science and general human advancement
>believing a Reddit meme


>>130969761
Good lord, can you go away? Honestly one of the most uneducated and weakest arguments I've ever heard against Christianity, worst than the 'muh kike on a stick' and 'magic sky daddy.'

>bruh why would you want eternal life in transcended state of eternal paradise and happiness, like you would totally get bored dude!

Go annoy some Buddhists for once.

>>130954445
>And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat

>>130970586
The end of all things is near. Therefore, be sensible and self-controlled for prayers. 8 Above all, have constant love for one another,because love covers a multitude of sins . 9 Be hospitable to one anotherwithout grumbling. 10 Each of you should employ whatever gift he orshe has received to serve one another as faithful administrators of themany forms of God’s grace. 11 If anyone speaks, that person shouldspeak as one speaking words from God. If anyone serves, that person should serve with the strength God supplies, so that in all things Godmight be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belong glory anddominion forever and ever. Amen. ( 1 Pet. 4 : 7 – 11 )


oops Peter the Jew

>>130970387
You can't use someone else's analysis to argue your own point, I don't think he even agrees with what you are implicating.

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>>130968773
The ESV audio bible flows very smoothly and has crisp audio, point is I'm trying to get to know Jesus starting from the Book of Matthew. They need to start somewhere and that is how I started. Now I read the KJV.

http://www.divinerevelations.info/documents/bible/esv_mp3_no_ot_2ndversion/?dir=New_Testament

>>130970709
Actually he does. And no, using scholarship is not fallacy

get over it

>>130970526
>NIV

Proverbs 26:4-5
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

>>130950631
Bump

Daniel Keating, First and Second Peter, Jude CCSS; Grand Rapids, MI:Baker, 2011 ), p. 103 . This also appears to be the interpretation o V ered byDuane F. Watson and Terrance D. Callan, First and Second Peter (Paideia;Grand Rapids, MI: Baker, 2012 ), pp. 102 – 3 , although Watson depicts humanlove as a kind of trigger that activates God’s love. After discounting interpret-ations 2 , 3 , and 4 above, Watson writes: ‘Rather, Christ’s sacrifice takes awaysin ( 1 : 18 – 19 ; 2 : 24 ; 3 : 18 ), and that sacrifice becomes e V ective in covering sinwhen love is exercised. In 1 Clement the exercise of love brings God’s for-giveness and the covering ( epikalypt  o ) of sins ( 50 . 5 – 6 ; cf. 49 . 5 ). Loving othersbrings God’s love into play. Whether mutual love forgives the sins of the oneloving and/or the sins of the one loved is unclear (cf. 1 Clem. 50 . 5 ), but theemphasis on mutuality in community indicates that love covers the sins of both’; cf. Ben Witherington, Letters and Homilies for Hellenized Christians ,vol. 2 : A Socio-Rhetorical Commentary on 1 – 2 Peter (Downers Grove, IL:IVP Academic, 2007 ), p. 204

Sola Fide?

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How do you know christianity is the correct god, and not one of the other religions?

>>130951682
Catholicism is nothing more than tiddles and feel good BS for pagans, wake up, goy. Enjoy your ornate windows and statues that mean literally nothing.

>>130970826
>protestant delusional arrogance

>>130970629

Good, because I can't really grasp it.

>>130970879
And Protestantism contradicts the bible

>>130970873
The Holy Spirit told me the same shit

>>130970565
You aren't trusting Jesus, you are trusting yourself; you have not repented.

>>130970894
Sola Fide is false

Read this
http://www.academia.edu/9407721/_Love_Covers_a_Multitude_of_Sins_Redemptive_Almsgiving_in_1_Peter_4_8_and_its_Early_Christian_Reception

>>130970586
Nice to see an Irishman who isnt a rabid Catholic.

>>130970974
Yes do nothing, just use Jesus credit card

>>130952671
get that pagan shite out of here

>>130971038
Too bad, Protestantism is much worse

>>130971073
Explain

http://www.academia.edu/9407721/_Love_Covers_a_Multitude_of_Sins_Redemptive_Almsgiving_in_1_Peter_4_8_and_its_Early_Christian_Reception

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>>130969282
>if youve ever put all your trust in Jesus, you cant lose eternal life.
I agree with you, but once saved always saved is a lie from Hell

You can also end up in Hell as a believer if you 1) blaspheme the Holy Spirit or 2) you take the Mark of the Beast

Judas Iscariot was one of Jesus' disciples and talked with Jesus Christ Himself frequently in person, yet he ended up in Hell

>>130970974
sorry, I don't get what you said

An answer to the question ‘Whose love covers the sins of whomin 1 Pet. 4 : 8 ?’ is not readily discerned by the syntax of the text.Four primary explanations have been suggested by moderninterpreters: 2

1 . God’s love covers human sins; 3

2 . human love for others covers the sins (through forgive-ness) of the objects of such love

3 . human love for others suppresses sins in the sense thatloving action prevents the occurrence of future transgres-sions among the people of God; 5

4 . human love for others atones for the sins of those whodemonstrate such love, with the removal of sins comingeither in the present or at the time of future, eschatolo-gical judgement.

Now to the person that said that my source disagrees with me, explain this

>Jesus kissed Mary on her...

Well?

>>130968783
claiming that the communion is actual real literal flesh is literally objectively biologically provably false

>>130971213
He says that you can sin all you want as long as you have credit card Jesus

>>130971175
>yet he ended up in Hell
where does the bible say this?

have you ever questioned your believe in god?

>>130971349
>because God must follow the law of nature
And taking it metaphorically means that Jesus wants you to persecute him

>>130969921
>Not everywhere and not all the time
Of course, just in the areas where the Church had the most influence.
>Paper was expensive, and it didn't help that vikings, bandits and armies raided the monasteries.
Bullshit, you know all too well what useful idiots are and how important they were to the Church. Also paper isn't the only way of spreading knowledge, there's also a thing called speaking.
>That's universal across the times.
Does it make it less morally deplorable?
>What happens when you do teach the lower classes how to read. Renaissance, not medieval.
Witch hunts span among multiple periods, but they were most prolific in the Middle Ages. Still can't figure out how these are anything else but crimes against humanity done by the church.
>Most of which were good.
Sure, I love seeing people die in vain too.
>Universal to humans. Talk about race or quantum mechanics and its implications and see what happens.
Gee, it's like someone told them that scientists are spewing the words of the devil and must be punished.
>Debunked myth.
kek

>>130970630
>I can't think for myself and every contradictory thought scares me because my beliefs are so fragile and make no sense
Crucify yourself.

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>>130970464
>Thinking about predestination scares me.
God is all-knowing, but our decisions has consequences. We are given free will by God.

For example, when Jesus showed this man the future of the United States. Jesus only showed him possibilities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEMc3xgTG1s

>>130971434
is god not above the law of nature?

>>130971355
0but that will just fill up heaven with sinners
that's not right

lk

>>130971509
Then he can make bread his flesh without making it scientifically visible to you

>>130971549
Welcome to Sola Fide

Only Calvinism solves the problem but it is incoherent itself

>>130971434
Do you seriously unironically believe that the bread turns into actual flesh once you swallow it? And if you happen to throw up for any reason it turns back into normal bread?
If the flesh is actually jesus' body, do people re-eat the same flesh? Because given the amount of people in in the world who have had communion in the last 2000 years, there's more than enough bread/"""flesh""" to make up an entire body

>>130954445
God wants us to be sober minded, so as to look for the return of Jesus. The season is now, obviously, given all of the prophecy being fulfilled, but we need to be vigilant. I smoke but I get what you mean. It helps you focus, just don't go overboard, ya know? Try with all your heart, and God will reward you. Read only the KJV, read Matthew 6 -- Ive had powerful experiences while sober and while not-so-sober...

God knows all that is in your heart, if you're genuinely looking He'll reward you in ways you can't imagine. I don't know how to explain it.

More Biblical scholarship on 1Peter

J. N. D. Kelly: ‘It is much more likely thatthe writer’s point is that at the coming judgment his readers will receivemercy for their own sins (of which he has been constantly reminding them:i. 14 ; ii. 1 ; 11 f.; iv. 1 – 4 ) provided in the meantime their mutual love does notfalter. Forgiveness is God’s free gift, and there is no suggestion of its beingmerited; but the gospel teaches (Lk. vii. 47 ) that he who loves much has manysins forgiven him and that at the final assize (Mt. xxv. 31 – 46 ) what will bedecisive will be the love, or lack of love, we have displayed in ouractions . . . For the growth of the (potentially dangerous) notion that works of charity help to secure forgiveness, cf., e.g., 1 Clem. l. 5 ; Did. iv. 6 ; Barn. xix. 10 ; Polycarp, Phil. x. 2 ’ ( Epistles of Jude and Peter , p. 178 ). Schreiner insiststhat it ‘flies in the face of the rest of the New Testament and even 1 Peter( 1 : 18 – 19 ; 2 : 24 – 25 ; 3 : 18 ) to see the love of believers as somehow atoning fortheir own sins’ ( 1 , 2 Peter, Jude , p. 212 ).

>>130971094
Just read the Bible, most denominations teach false gospels. Find a non-denominational church that teaches true gospel:

1st Corinthians 15:1-4

Moreover, brethren, I DECLARE UNTO YOU THE GOSPEL which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; BY WHICH ALSO YE ARE SAVED, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS according to the scriptures; and that HE WAS BURIED, and that HE ROSE AGAIN THE THIRD DAY according to the scriptures

>>130971667
Didn't know Jesus can't do whatever he wants with his own body

You are like the Jews who cannot take it

>>130971597
If it looks like bread, tastes like bread, digests like bread, it's just bread. Calling it flesh doesn't change that.

>>130971680
Sola Fide is false

Deal with it

>>130971643
what's Sola Fide?
what's Calvinism?
Is it another denomination?
no thank you
I'm orthodox and I'm happy that way

>>130971752
Too bad, Protestants dont follow this Gospel\\>>130971711

>>130971597
wut? are we eating God now? is my kebab God?

>>130971802
That is what Jesus said

Get over it dumb atheist crypto

>>130971549
>>130971643
Fools! Only sinners justified by Christ enter heaven! The only non-sinner in Heaven will be Christ Himself!

>>130957126
Too bad reality is going to be shattered. What're you going to do when Armageddon is at hand and all that predictive programming on cannibalism starts making its way into the heads of your neighbours? Post more memes, if that's all your life is worth to you. Jesus is coming and your edge won't cut shite.

>>130971457
>Of course, just in the areas where the Church had the most influence.
Vatican was poor? Or Spain?

>>130971852
Sola Fide means faith ALONE saves you

That means believe in Jesus and you are saved your works wont save you

Calvinism means God chooses who will be saved and damned before he made everything

Everything is GOd's plan to this end

>>130971752
do you believe the old testament is the word of God?

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>>130950631
>call themselves christians because Christ
>still follow everything that Paul said

You morons should call yourselves Paulist, not Christians. That's why christianism doesn't work, because 99% of them just follow the wrong path.

>>130971457
>retarded arguments = worthy contradictory thoughts

brainlet to the highest caliber

>>130971931
And those same sinners can do all the sin they want

>>130971917
Are all of the parables actual real life events too?
Are you unironically suggesting that jesus never used metaphors?

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(((Macron))) is a catholic apparently

>>130971643
Fuck you guys Calvinists are the WORST.
>No free will

IF ANY ONE struggles iwth this shit read this guys work.
http://evangelicalarminians.org/index-of-articles-by-robert-hamilton/
I cannot vouch for every doctrine he holds to since I have not read his whole catalgoue and I am a Roman Catholic BUT it is sufficient to refute Calvinism and he's right on that

>>130972086
Jesus explains himself

He didnt do that here

And a metaphor would mean this,
Psalm 27:2 When the wicked came against me to eat up my flesh, my enemies and foes, they stumbled and fell.
Micah 3:1-4 - 1 and I said: hear, you heads of Jacob and rulers of the house of Israel! Is it not for you to know justice? 2 you who hate the good and love the evil, who tear the skin from off my people, and their flesh from off their bones; 3 who eat the flesh of my people , and flay their skin from off them, and break their bones in pieces, and chop them up like meat in a kettle, like flesh in a caldron. 4 then they will cry to the Lord, but he will not answer them; he will hide his face from them at that time, because they have made their deeds evil.

Isaiah 9:18-20 - 18 for wickedness burns like a fire, it consumes briers and thorns; it kindles the thickets of the forest, and they roll upward in a column of smoke. 19 through the wrath of the lord of hosts the land is burned, and the people are like fuel for the fire; no man spares his brother. 20 they snatch on the right, but are still hungry, and they devour on the left, but are not satisfied; each devours his neighbor's flesh

>>130971994
Calvinism supported by the Bible:
Romans 9:
10 Not only that, but Rebekah’s children were conceived at the same time by our father Isaac. 11 Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: 12 not by works but by him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.”[d] 13 Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”[e]

14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”[f]
16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?

22 What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?

>>130971407
In the creed it says that but I think it is supposed to be him going to hell to face satan rather than going there for punishment.

ITT Christians fighting other Christians because they think their Jesus was better than the other one
You people are fucking dumb as shit.

>>130972041
>I sure showed him
Spoken like a true Christian.

>>130971917
And then there's this faggot.

>>130972140
Anyone who hates Calvinism have half a brain

To have a whole brain, they must hate all of Protestant

>>130971856
Why are you so proud to ride along to hell?

Your vanity is so shallow, you don't even argue with your own earthly wisdom, you copy and paste other (((acadmeics))) work. You are empty and worthless in both God's and man's sight.

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>>130972178
HERESY THE CHURCH FATHERS DESPISED CALVINISM

“For no other reason does God punish the sinner either in the present or future world, except because He knows that the sinner was able to conquer but neglected to gain the victory.” Recognitions of Clement of Rome. 111. 23, V. 8, IX. 30.

There is, therefore, nothing to hinder you from changing your evil manner of life, because you are a free man.
(Melito, 170 AD, 8.754)

· We were not created to die. Rather, we die by our own fault. Our free will has destroyed us. We who were free have become slaves. We have been sold through sin. Nothing evil has been created by God. We ourselves have manifested wickedness. But we, who have manifested it, are able again, to reject it.
(Tatian, 160 AD, 2.69)

>>130972194
God made Adam sin

God blamed Adam for sinning

The Bible said Satan is the father of lies

God is no better than Satan if Calvinism is true

>>130972178
>it can't be a metaphor in this place because there are other, completely separate, unrelated places where flesh is used literally
come on, anon

>>130972249
How am I going to Hell when I am presenting what the Bible says

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>>130972238
>>130972303

FUCKING ASSHOLES ALL OF YOU YOU ARE FUCKING GOING TO HELL

I have proved in what has been said that those who were foreknown to be unrighteous, whether men or angels, are not made wicked by God’s fault. Rather, each man is what he will appear to be through his own fault.
(Justin Martyr, 160 AD, 1.269)
· He created both angels and men free to do that which is righteous. And He appointed periods of time during which He knew it would be good for them to have the exercise of free will.
(Justin Martyr, 160 AD, 1.250)
. We maintain that each man acts rightly or sins by his free choice….Since God in the beginning made the race of angels and men with free will, they will justly suffer in eternal fire the punishment of whatever sins they have committed.
(Justin Martyr, 160 AD, 1.190)
· We…have believed and are saved by voluntary choice.
(Clement of Alexandria, 195 AD, 2.217)
· Each one of us who sins with his own free will, chooses punishment. So the blame lies with him who chooses. God is without blame.
(Clement of Alexandria, 195 AD, 2.226)

>>130972303
internet theologist

>>130972249
Good thing your gods aren't real

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>>130970586
>absolute faith in Jesus is all that is needed to reach the Kingdom of heaven
Yes, I completely agree with you. However, the Bible also says "faith without works is dead." We do this by repenting of our sins, reading His Word, Seeking God's Face, and praying day and night. There are many Christians who do not go into their prayer closets and earnestly seeking His Face (I'm guilty of this too at times). Being a lazy Christian is one who hears the words of Jesus and doesn't do anything about it. The servant who doesn't invest the talents God gives them but instead sits on them will be thrown into the outer darkness. Read the Bible in its entirety in the Spirit and pray. Don't pick out certain verses that tickle your ears. Read all of it as God wants you to. Seek and you will find.

>>130972178
Do explain how the thief on the cross who went to heaven ate Jesus and drink his blood and received a water baptism while crucified.

>>130972350
Go look at the Greek when Jesus said that his flesh is true food

"true" in the Greek lexicon when used there refers to Philosophical truth

That aint' no metaphor bullshit dumbo

And Jesus lived as a fucking Jew and would know that what "eating flesh" would mean metaphorically in a Jewish context

>>130971457
>Bullshit, you know all too well what useful idiots are and how important they were to the Church. Also paper isn't the only way of spreading knowledge, there's also a thing called speaking.
Blame the people then.
>Does it make it less morally deplorable?
Yes.
>Witch hunts span among multiple periods, but they were most prolific in the Middle Ages.
Nope, they were the most prolific after the end of the medieval period. Romans killed the druids, too. You going to let that slide?
>Still can't figure out how these are anything else but crimes against humanity done by the church.
Crimes against humanity? Which law? The divine moral law of God?
>Gee, it's like someone told them that scientists are spewing the words of the devil and must be punished.
It's like a gypsy is badmouthing his betters again.
>kek
Medieval economy and technology were improving from the Roman era. Several inventions were lost - similarly to how much of our space tech has been lost. Although here I have to admit that I do not know that much about "Byzantium", and if they remembered the secret of aqueducts. Or the Roman legionnaires disturbing the circles?

>>130972396
That is factual

>>130970861
Because only a loving God could be God, not one who commands his mindless followers to slit the throats of unbelievers, bomb themselves for 72 virgins and rape 9 year olds.

>>130972280
Can you choose to believe in Zeus? No, just like I can't believe in your God. Nothing is a choice, especially belief and emotions.

>>130972538
ah but Jesus is not a jew at all

>>130972499
The thief on the Cross didn't do Sola Fide. He rebuked the other theif when he ridiculed Jesus. It is right there written so clear

>>130972648
He is

Get over it

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>>130972538
MAN HAS FREE WILL HERETIC

· But man, being endowed with reason, and in this similar respect similar to God, having been made free in his will, and with power over himself, is himself his own cause that sometimes becomes wheat, and sometimes chaff.
(Irenaeus, 180 AD, 1.466)

· I find, then, that man was constituted free by God. He was master of his own will and power….Man is free, with a will either for obedience or resistance.
(Tertullian, 207 AD, 3.300, 301)

· Man is able to both will and not to will. He is endowed with power to do both.
(Hippolytus, 225 AD, 5.152)

· The liberty of believing or not believing is placed in free choice. In Deuteronomy, it says, ‘Look! I have set before your face life and death, good and evil. Choose for yourself life, that you may live.’”
(Cyprian, 250 AD, 5.547)

Man was made with a free will…on account of his capacity of obeying or disobeying God. For this was the meaning of the gift of free will.
(Methodius, 290 AD, 6.362)

>>130972392
>not quoting the Bible

>>130972585
you are a liar retard kike , take a hike
>>130972690
nah got nothing to do with kikes

you get over it and take a hike

>>130972499

Consider how contrary to the mind of God are the heterodox in regard to the grace of God which has come to us. They have no regard for charity, none for the widow, the orphan, the oppressed, none for the man in prison, the hungry or the thirsty. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not admit that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, the flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in His graciousness, raised from the dead." "Letter to the Smyrnaeans", paragraph 6. circa 80-110 A.D.
Come together in common, one and all without exception in charity, in one faith and in one Jesus Christ, who is of the race of David according to the flesh, the son of man, and the Son of God, so that with undivided mind you may obey the bishop and the priests, and break one Bread which is the medicine of immortality and the antidote against death, enabling us to live forever in Jesus Christ." -"Letter to the Ephesians", paragraph 20, c. 80-110 A.D

>>130972778
>not an argument

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>>130970861
>How do you know christianity is the correct god, and not one of the other religions?
You don't know, you believe


Jesus said unto him, “Thomas, because thou hast seen Me, thou hast believed. Blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed.” (John 20:29)

>>130972690
He shares absolutely none of their traits beyond the paperwork. Just like his regal lineage, in law only.
The story of Christ is how God jewed the jews and Satan.

>>130972468
John 6:39

And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of ALL WHICH HE HATH GIVEN ME I SHOULD LOSE NOTHING, but should raise it up again at the last day.

Jesus won't let you go if you've been saved.

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>>130972785
MAN HAS FREE WILL YOU HAVE NOT ONE CHURCH FATHER TO QUOTE NOT EVEN ONE

Epiphanius: (310-403) ‘if ye be willing and obedient’; “whence, it is plainly manifest and indubitable, that God had granted to man free-will, so that it is in his power to do the good, or choose the evil. For if it be predestined that one man be good and another man evil, then the first is not deserving of praise or the other to be blamed.AgainstHeresies16 Isaiah
Basil the Great: (329-379)

Why in short was it receptive to evil? Because it was endowed with free will, which is expecially appropriate for a nature endowed with reason. So the soul is freed of all constraints, and obtains from the Creator a life at its own discretion; and because it was made in God’s image, it understood the good and knows its joys, and has the possibility and power of maintaining its natural life by continuing to gaze on the good and to enjoy the life of the spirit. But it has also the possibility on occasion of abandoning the good. – God is not the author of Evil (Homily 9)

>>130972833
The question, then, is why should I believe in your religion and not that one? Where is my fault if I pick the wrong one?

>>130972303
God kills about 3 million people in the Bible the Koran and the Torah combined. The devil does not come even close to that number

>>130972890
Funny Paul had to warn other Christians not to do stupid shit

>>130972939
God also made you sin

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>>130972966
SATANIST MAN HAS FREE WILL


ATHENAGORAS: (177 AD) “Just as with men, who have freedom of choice as to both virtue and vice, so it is among the angels…Some free agents, you will observe, such as they were created by God, continued in those things for which God had made and over which he had ordained them; but some outraged both the constitution of their nature and the government entrusted to them.” – A Plea for the Christians 24.

· For God made man free from the beginning, possessing his own power, even as he does his own soul, to obey the commandments of God voluntarily, and not by compulsion of God. For there is no coercion with God.
(Irenaeus, 180 AD, 1.518)

· Because man is possessed of free will from the beginning, and God is possessed of free will (in whose likeness man was created), advice is always given to him to hold fast to the good, which is done through obedience to God. God has preserved the will of man free and under his own control. This is not merely in works, but also in faith.

(Irenaeus, 180 AD, 1.519)
· Nor, again, does God exercise compulsion upon anyone unwilling to accept the exercise of His skill…. They have been created free agents and possessed of power over themselves.
(Irenaeus, 180 AD, 1.523)

Hey so I'm a "former christian" I guess, and I'm thinking about getting back into it because I think its mostly true but im not sure, what do you guys have to say about Jews having no trace of ever being slaves in egypt?

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>>130971407
Judas Iscariot committed suicide

>>130972830
i'm not here to argue , leave

>>130972904
How exactly does God "give" is free will? I maintain the stance that we do not act out of free will, because the brain is just atoms following a deterministic path set by the laws of physics. If I have a soul, then it just another cause which affects my decisions. How can I act without being caused to act?

>>130972657
>>130972785
You are calling Jesus a liar, because He told the thief he would be in paradise with Jesus, but the thief neither ate him, nor drank him, nor received a water baptism. According to your false prophets, the thief is in hell and Jesus is a liar. According to the Bible, the thief is in heaven.

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>>130973004
90 AD EPISTLE TO DIOGNETUS
Not so. But in gentleness [and] meekness has Hesent Him, as a king might send his son who is a king.He sent Him, as sending God; He sent Him, as [a man]unto men; He sent Him, as Saviour, as using USING PERSUASION, NOT FORCE, FOR FORCE IS NO ATTRIBUTE OF GOD.

>>130973115
Sola Fide is false

http://www.academia.edu/9407721/_Love_Covers_a_Multitude_of_Sins_Redemptive_Almsgiving_in_1_Peter_4_8_and_its_Early_Christian_Reception

>>130973185
The thief also defended him from ridicule

>>130973025
You're just quoting a bunch of men who declare that we have free will without explaining the logic or mechanism of free will.

>>130951594
Every once in a while, an anon really just fucking nails some shit, man.

>>130973117
No, he tripped and fell.

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>>130973198
1 Peter 5:2
Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;

Ezekiel 18:31
Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?


NOT ALL THE ELECT/CHOSEN ARE SAVED

BECAUSE CHOSEN MEANS YOURE JEWISH

2 Timothy 2:10
Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

>>130973198
That has nothing to do with what I asked...

>>130972778
the 8 word sentence with a maximum of 2 lines a post guy strikes again.

why waste your time when you don't even believe? vanity.

>>130973316
Because God make Adam sin but Adam is responsible

>>130973357
See how it destroys Sola Fide

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>>130965221
That's it exactly. Too much tangible, recorded, and irrefutable proof.

>hurrrr our entire history leading up to the 17th century was just people trying to explain why water is wet and where unexplainable natural formations come from huuuurrrrrrrrrrrr

>>130973401
Read it

>>130973331
>No, he tripped and fell.
I'm afraid you might be wrong,
Matthew 27:5 (ESV)

5 And throwing down the pieces of silver into the temple, he departed, and he went and hanged himself.

>>130972205
Who are you to say the creator of all things isn't allowed to take his creations back?

>inb4 he wouldn't be a loving god then

>>130973515
The Bible denies Sola Fide
http://www.academia.edu/9407721/_Love_Covers_a_Multitude_of_Sins_Redemptive_Almsgiving_in_1_Peter_4_8_and_its_Early_Christian_Reception

>>130973540
Shut up you fag

>>130972939
>>130973570

>>130972966
If you are going to be a son of God, then of course he will chastise rebellious children. Proverbs says that the father who spares the rod hates his son.

>>130973521
Yeah but that doesn't have anything to do with my doubts regarding the historic accuracy of the old testament....

>>130972576
>Blame the people then.
No, I'm not going to do that, the state has a responsibility to offer a certain set of living privileges to its people in return for the people living in a civilized nation and prospering its economy, producing offspring, fighting for the nation etc. In this case the Church held the highest power so they failed fundamentally
>Yes.
No.
>The divine moral law of God
You know you're basing all of this on the premise that there is such a thing as a god, that he gives a shit about us and that he truly said and did what is written in a collection of desert books.
>It's like a gypsy is badmouthing his betters again.
What?
>Medieval economy and technology were improving from the Roman era.
Okay, I'm not saying that the Medieval times is without its merits, but in terms of living as a plebian in that time frame you have to admit it is the worst period.

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>>130973613
SHUT THE GODMANED HELL UP YOU FIRST BORN OF SATAN
LET NO MAN SAY WHEN HE IS TEMPED, “I AM TEMPTED OF GOD” FOR GOD CANNOT BE TEMPTED WITH EVIL NEITHER TEMPTETH HE ANY MAN But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

>>130973696
>the state has a responsibility to
No more!

>>130973648
They will still be saved even if they sin endlessly

>>130973242
Are you a satanist trying to troll? How can a man be so contentious and blind?

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>>130973613
Alroy, why are you fighting with your fellow people who share common Christian faith. You made me cry in the afternoon, don't you realise that your words literally hurt people?

>>130973419
you're tedious

>>130969836
>defers to (((credible))) authority
>projecting this hard
>soulless narcissist shill detected

Like Jesus said, if you aren't for me.. you are against me. He also said no one had the balls to fight for his cause and prevent arrestment, thus unworthy for his kingdom(not of this world). This planet is in a state of spiritual arrestment thanks to the imposter church.

>>130973570
You just answered your own question.

>inb4 His ways are mysterious

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>>130972934
>The question, then, is why should I believe in your religion and not that one? Where is my fault if I pick the wrong one?
Jesus walked on this Earth 2,000 years ago. Even if you don't believe Jesus is the Son of God or the Messiah, it is historically documented and proven.

There were people who saw Jesus and accepted His Word and accepted Him as the Messiah. There were also people, some who claimed to be religious in the Jewish religion, that rejected Jesus. Some hated Him so much that they ended up killing Him.

All I'm saying is, listen to what Jesus has to say for Himself. Don't listen to other people. Don't pay attention to what other Christians, other pastors or priests say. The blind leading the blind, they both fall into the pit. I suggest you listen to the four gospels: http://www.divinerevelations.info/documents/bible/esv_mp3_no_ot_2ndversion/?dir=New_Testament

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>>130973818
IT IS WRITTEN
Do not say: “It was God’s doing that I fell away,”
for what he hates he does not do.
Do not say: “He himself has led me astray,”
for he has no need of the wicked.
Abominable wickedness the LORD hates
and he does not let it happen to those who fear him.
God in the beginning created human beings
and made them subject to their own free choice.

>>130973004
god has not made me do anything. God only exists in the mind and in the perception of nature. If i would not question the morality of my mind and assume the morality of God is right. I would be inclined to follow a religion. However as the word of God trough relegious text have verry quastionable morality i must conclude that my own morality is more acceptable and less evil

More from David Downs book,

A solution to the literary unity of 1 Tim 6:6-19 that sees the entire passage as a discourse about the proper use of wealth sheds important light on the exhortation in 6:17-19, a text that has often beguiled interpreters because of the implication of verse 19 that wealthy believers can accrue for themselves future treasure in exchange for generously sharing their resources:

17To the rich in the present age, charge them not to be haughty, nor to hope in the uncertainty of wealth, but to hope in God, who richly grants to us all things for enjoyment—18 that is, to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous, [to be] willing to share, 19storing up for themselves a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life.

It has been suggested that verses 18 to 19 reflect the “completely un-Pauline” notion that good works provide a foundation for the future.24 Among those not inclined to posit so sharp a discontinuity between the soteriology of 1 Timothy (or the so-called Pastoral Epistles in general), on one hand, and the undisputed Pauline Epistles, on the other, a common strategy for explaining the relationship between charity and reward in verse 19 is to draw a distinction between demonstrating one’s godliness and earning one’s salvation.25 (pg 156)

>>130973844
Are you a girl?

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>>130973703

spicy

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>>130973949
IT IS WRITTEN
If you choose, you can keep the commandments;
loyalty is doing the will of God.
Set before you are fire and water;
to whatever you choose, stretch out your hand.
Before everyone are life and death,
whichever they choose will be given them.

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>>130972890
>tells him not to cherry-pick Bible verses
>goes ahead and picks out a verse out of context

>>130973840
That was clearly written in the Bible for you to see.

Are you trying to troll?

Are you blind?

>>130969584
I sincerely hope you take that back for your own sake, friend. Good grief...

>>130973888
10 Not only that, but Rebekah’s children were conceived at the same time by our father Isaac. 11 Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: 12 not by works but by him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.”[d] 13 Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”[e]

14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”[f]
16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?

22 What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?

>>130973696
>You know you're basing all of this on the premise that there is such a thing as a god, that he gives a shit about us and that he truly said and did what is written in a collection of desert books.
Read a book. I was specifically referring to the universal moral standard that you seem to refer to, here. Unless you refer to your opinion, which I value less than used toilet paper.

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>>130973980
Didn't we have an conversation hours ago?

>>130974038
That's right, who are you a puppet to speak back when you cannot because God mind controls you and will blame you for every shit you do

even when God did it

>>130974144
*a