California Senate passes #SB562 aka Single Payer Healthcare

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oh best part, covers illegals and I assume anyone who shows up and pretends to a california citizen. RIP west side

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>>128075262
do they not realize the country already 20 TRILLION in fucking debt already?
what the fuck are they expecting to happen when they go bankrupt jesus christ

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>>128076282
the tax base is going to run for the hills and go other states

>>128075262
>raise taxes by 15%

Dear Christ how is anyone gonna afford to live in that shithole anymore? Time for cali fags to get the hell out

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>>128076598
>California has among the highest taxes in the nation. Its base sales tax rate of 7.5% is higher than that of any other state, and its top marginal income tax rate of 13.3% is the highest state income tax rate in the country.

add 15% to that LMAO on top of federal taxes, and california has a 8% sales tax

>>128076514
I am doing a startup here in California, co-founder and I are discussing this second where the fuck we are going to relocate to, this state is insane and I know that we will be on the hook to pay for it.

When you Califags end up running for your lives to set up shop ion another state....learn your lesson and stop voting for the democrat party, don't bring your dingbat voting habits to another state!

>>128076925
I'm a fucking Southerner and I don't vote like the rest of these Califags. I am encouraging them to stay put and enjoy their glorious worker's paradise. Please take in the wayward children of Dixie.

>>128075262

this is AMAZING news. they are not even addressing how many people will just show up to the ER for their free gibs. Doctors will quit, insurance companies will move out, Hospitals will be overrun, this will mean total collapse. they'll have to hire scabs from out of state for 3x the money, this is incredible. all the shitstain subhumans will flock to it, i hope Trump can summon an Earthquake shortly after the collapse so we can finally be rid of these vermin.

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>>128075262
I think it is time to leave the state.

I am going to miss California. The weather here is so beautiful. But the politicians have destroyed heaven.

It really is paradise lost...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyvOJlX4ZkE

>>128075262
Proofs?

>Commiefornia implodes due to these retardo policies
>Goes anarchy
>Beaner spics, and Somalie rapefugees like the rats they are abandon ship and either go back to Mexico or more likely to the next sanctuary city for more gibs

This will hurt us other states with their stupid virtue signaling

pls no i only came here for the cheaper education ;_;

>>128077559

>http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-single-payer-healthcare-plan-advances-1496361965-htmlstory.html

sorry for direct link, use archive.is yourself

>>128077345
One of the aims of single-payer healthcare is for people to show up at their local GP INSTEAD OF the ER. Are you an insurance industry cuck or just an ignorant burger?

>>128076887
Texas is your best bet, just not Austin. As long as you're conservative, that is, we don't need any more retarded commies shitting up our cities.

I actually wouldn't mind universal healthcare.

>>128077800
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE QUIT TELLING PEOPLE TO COME TO TEXAS YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKERS!!!!!!!

I like how the dems can only get votes by giving handouts to certain groups and then of course leave the rest of us to pay for it

>>128076887
If it's a tech start-up, your best bet is either AZ or NM.

>>128077721

yeah you found me out, total shill. damn you guys are good.

i do have to wonder how many doctors are going to take in huge swathes of patients for a fraction of the cost. i mean, they could just move to another state. and who's going to work there? pajeet? it will be the NHS 2.0.

>>128077800
I'm in Houston and this place is cucked as fuck. Full of Muslims and niggers. Really you should be looking for small towns.

Shit, Arizona just doubled its wall mileage...

>>128077345
This. You never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.

Is AZ a good state?

I have some family in AZ, but the heat is always an issue there.

>>128076887
Come to Texas. Just leave any the commiefornian thinking in California.

>>128075262
I bet my West coast friends are delighted to give up their hard earned wages to buy healthcare for shaniqua and her 10 niglets

>>128076879
NY has a 8.625% sales tax, but state income taxes are lower

>>128075262
The very moment all those unpaid pensions start coming due California is 100% fucked. I wouldn't be surprised either if this causes most of Silicon Valley to move somewhere else. I've heard northern Utah is a common destination for this kind of shit, if they all move there California will be bankrupt within a year.

>>128078507
lmao most of cali is brown anyways

>>128078459
AZ is a decent state. Heat is bad in Phoenix, but the people are better than other places. Flagstaff seems nice, but It votes blue, and is a college town. Phoenix heat is livable 9 months out of the year. The other three you just stay indoors and shitpost.

>>128076887
take me with you senpai. ill program the shit out of your startup

>>128076887
Are you a Vietnamese guy who worked for Yahoo in the past? Because I might know you

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>The bear will leave it's cave
Oh shit

>>128076887
Try Scottsdale, AZ. Lot of companies moving there right now.

15% tax?
bwahahahaha fuck you Cali you deserve this and more

>>128076282
>what the fuck are they expecting to happen when they go bankrupt jesus christ

We have Silicon Valley,a shitton of biotech industries, hordes of rich gay men and Mexican slaves. We'll probably be able to handle it.

it only passed the senate, it still has a ways to go. it won't pass.

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>>128079102
>underestimating California

>>128075262
>>$400 billion a year
>>CA current budget is $140 billion
Que whiny liberals demanding the other 49 states pony up the cash.

>>128079058
The majority of Silicon valley have production plants outside of the US

Biotech has the majority of manufacturing outside of the US to avoid FDA Guidelines

You're fucked dude
And most of New tech stuff is moving out and hoarding up in Austin and Indiana

>>128076887
If all else fails Utah bottom of the list. Just be careful of salt lake it is a liberal hell. Also take me with you.

>>128078945
OH SHIT
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>>128075262
400 billion, minus reduction in spending due to inplementing single payer

>>128075262
F

>>128075262
I'm moving to Idaho in a year.

>>128079102
Former California resident, They will pass it. The democrats control over 2/3rds of the legislature. They will pass it with little debate. Governor Brown will sign it into law. Any criticism will be countered with the argument "Californians will save money on healthcare".

>>128075262
This is what makes america great. One of our states can kill itself as a warning to the rest.

>>128079661
and these pretentious fucks deserve it.
Fuck Cali; niggas make Florida look respectable

>>128076282
If I weren't in university, and had the money, I'd have already moved to Texas

>>128079835
>going to college
>in California
It's like you hate having money.

>>128075262
the illegals who use it dont pay tax. so, how is this going to work out?

>>128079058
>We have Silicon Valley,a shitton of biotech industries, hordes of rich gay men and Mexican slaves. We'll probably be able to handle it.
The more cali implodes from all the liberal fiscal disasters, you won't even have the tech firms. Cali will go after their money to pay for it.
(you've been warned.)
Die zuckerberg

>>128075262
Considering that half their population is illegal and doesn't pay taxes, i guess this will be the end of the commiefornia utopia.

>>128075262
At least it aint gon touch my 401k

>>128079789
I'm not sure how my mom and dad will survive in the state. My mom might be well off since she has a government job and has tenure, my dad is worrisome. His work has just stabilized in the last 2 years, he'll be lucky if the construction industry is able to function.

>>128075262
so this is the plan,
break every state budge in the nation
just to spite trump

Holy FUCK. We are fucked.

I'm going to pay for fucking ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS???????

FUCK THIS. I gotta move.

>>128079372
I can't speak for Silicon Valley but I'm in biotech and I can tell you that business is booming. Some of the production may be outside the US but I know for a fact that there are lots of devices being actively produced here. And yes, a lot of these devices are used here because there are lots of research facilities in California. Corporate headquarters are here too to communicated with the research facilities.

These places are both loaded with cash and expanding. Seriously, whens the last time you visited a business that had a river built to flow through the campus as well as all the other free amenities to the employees. Things like free lunch catering and gym access.

>>128078459
No it fucking sucks, don't come here

I think California has been dreaming too much...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-aK6JnyFmk

Just hope my country don't vote for a socialist state.

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>>128078945
>The bear will leave it's cave
oh fuck you're right

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>>128075262
CA born and raised, love the weather and the natural beauty, but this is the last straw.

gotta GTFO before it's too late

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>>128076887
can i have a job, ill do anything.

>>128078475
Don't worry, the best thing about California is the weather and the pussy. I won't miss the bubble mindset here at all.

I'd consider Texas though also Tennessee, Utah, Georgia, and a few other places come to mind.

These stupid fucks link:http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/california-playbook
>On Senate Bill 562, which would establish a single-payer state health insurance program, “65 percent of all adults and 56 percent of likely voters say they favor such a plan. But support falls to 42 percent of adults and 43 percent of likely voters if the plan would raise taxes.”

>>128081017
Archived:
>http://politico com/tipsheets/california-playbook
--> https://archive.is/MziS1

Seriously, I think this will be what makes me finally leave this State.

I can't support Illegal Immigrants who all have fucking Diabetes, just my taxes go up by thousands.

I can't do this shit.

>>128081045
ty man to lazy to do it myself you got a bot running?

>>128080239

tell them to start moving elsewhere.

>>128077519
Hey nice Symphony X

I guess the idea that California is the land of plenty and constant beautiful weather lends credence to the notion that a sedentary, easy lifestyle leads to debauchery and ruin

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If I paint myself brown and show up could I get some decent healthcare in less than one year waiting time?

>>128078764
I went to AZ last weekend. Didn't feel as hot as I expected. Is that normal?

>>128075262
I just started reading about this bill...it sounds like it assumes the Federal government will have to give California some kind of waiverof Medicare rules in order to allow implementation. I'm beginning to suspect that the Democrats intentionally poisoned their own bill so they can blame Trump for their inability to go forward after passing it.

>>128081135
My favorite place in California might be Mammoth when it is snowy . . . the long drive and inclement weather keep the riff raff from LA away.

>>128080831
Devices isn't a billion dollar industry, pharama tech is

And I know for a fact that the majority of it's production comes from oversee's which means the monetary growth isn't happening in California but in some backwoods In C H Y N A

>>128080902
>UK
>hopes his country dont vote for a socialist state

I have bad news, lad.

>>128077926
says someone who probably isn't going to pay for it or is already on medicaid or medicare

>>128079040
You don't want to do a startup in Scottsdale it's too expensive. Most tech is in Chandler but Ubers space is available in Phoenix. Tuft and Needle were two guys from Silicon Valley and their place is on Grand Ave by the Trump Billboard there's super cheap real estate there

>>add 15% with new tax $102 Billion in revenue
This math is incorrect but please tell me military is exempt.

>>128081123
I'll be moving back to the states next year. I might have to move to Texas and bring my dad with me.

>>128081368
I think I paid over $70k in state and federal taxes in the past 12 months. Freeloaders make me sick.

>>128075262
>"Guaranteed" "healthcare" for "all" "Californians"
Fucking lel @ that catchphrase

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>>128080501
liberals get everything they want from this desu
>free healthcare
>destroying the united states

>>128081220

it's likely. they'll complain that trump did it to them when the federal coffers aren't used to subsidize the cost.

they did this to themselves. let them take care of it.

>>128081479
Military does not pay an income tax in California.

562?
That's a Long Beach area code.
At first I thought this was total fake faggotry.
Holy cow.
Communism is on its way.
Watch out, boys.

>>128081278
Biotech senpai.

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>>128075262
>be Californiacuck libshit
>California increases taxes by ten fold cuz yet another leftist shitty policy
>cant afford to live in there
>aside from the crime ridden cities and lacks of jobs, result of other leftist policies
>look for another state with lower crime, lower taxes and higher standards of living
>what a coincidence all of those a red states
>move there
>life is great, everything is cheap, it's so safe
>start voting for the exact same leftist policies because i want it to look more like home and because the locals are a bunch of conservative raycists
>State becomes shitty
>"well time to look for another place!"
>repeat

I swear to God, (((they))) HAVE to be behind this

Wait, no, shit. Guys we have to fucking reverse this. They're all just going to migrate to Texas. Please fucking stop this holy fuck no.

>>128081291
More socialist then, Conservatives are currently fucking the NHS to destroy it atm. They are also implementing grammar schools.

Just a few years away too. I think Conservatives will still win, but it really depends on how lazy the students and kids are.

>>128075262
>>goodbye california
>globalists take drastic measures
>democrats get elected nationally
>bail out cali at the expense of the rest of the country
>everyone complains
>"Oh well, guess it's singlepayer for the entire US then! :^)"

Can't let them back in no matter what.

>>128079937
>The more cali implodes from all the liberal fiscal disasters, you won't even have the tech firms. Cali will go after their money to pay for it.

Nah, more likely everybody elses health insurance and costs will explode as we pass it all off to you guys. Say what you want about us being a liberal hellhole because its most likely true, but we do have the major technological production facilities on lockdown.

>>128081278
It's all assembled and tested for quality here. This does include many major pharmaceutical devices. The component parts are what are made outside California. The corporate location is here and everything goes through us and that's whats important.

>>128081387
Honestly I would consider consolidating sales/marketing in an inexpensive area and telling the engineers they can go live wherever they want and go 100% distributed for them. The cost of getting someone in California is kind of amazing. I used to love it when I was an employee of course but now I see the difficult side of the coin.

>>128081608
retired military does, not sure about active duty military

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>tfw california is the quebec of the United States, always pretending they're their own country

>>128079835
>id already have moved to Texas
Fuck off we're full

Thank God, the failed experiment will only prove republicans right and maybe enlighten some people.

>>128081733
Explain, What are the Tories presently doing to the NHS?

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>>128081694
But anon what harm could more socialism and diversity do to Texas ;D

I hope this applies to illegals too. Maybe we can convince them all to move to California.

>>128076282

Much more than that your masters do not use GAAP.

>>128081479
This means that Military Healthcare I earned by serving 20 years would be worthless. And I'd end up having to pay a shitload of money for my Healthcare like I'm some common civilian. I'd be on the same level as an illegal immigrant in this State.

>>128081678
Tomato Tamoto

>While biotechnology and pharmaceutical companies both produce medicine, biotechnology companies' medicines have a biological basis, and pharmaceutical companies' medicines have a chemical basis

>>128079631
Dad pls stop posting on /pol/ you're embarrassing me.

>>128081815
active does not.

>>128081891
FUCK OFF! They destroyed Austin, Dallas, and San Antonio. We don't need more of them! We're perfectly happy as we are.

I live in the Bay Area and rent a 1 bed 1 bath for 4,375 a month with my wife.

Ask me anything.

>>128078638
>>128076879
AND TEXAS HAS NO STATE INCOME TAX AND ONLY A 6.25% SALES TAX

YOU GUYS ARE GETTING JEWED HARD

>>128075262
I will move to California right now if I am guaranteed free healthcare, live on the street, and smoke weed.

Shut their fucking water supply off. Let nature reclaim what is rightfully hers.

>>128075262
>15%
hey big bro... uhhh so you know that time little cali stayed over? well she kinda copied our entire system.... soooo yea. you might wanna listen to some Tool for the cure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C_BVozrDkU

>>128081783
True but eventually the brown hordes will start wondering why the shrinking honky/hapa/asian population gets that tiny sliver of oceanfront and all the wealth. They'll vote as a block and take it all. Or just skip voting and take it.

>>128082088

how many sq ft is it?

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>California wants Canada style healthcare
>Everyone leaves because of Canada style taxes

Only reason socialist programs like that work in nord countries which they all like to speak so highly off i, is precisely because nord countries are completely homogenous with very similar beliefs identity history. Problem with california, is it is competely populated with Democrat scum and foreign illegals who will suck up all the tax money. Truly traitorous.

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>>128082050
Shh anon it will all be over soon and when you wake up Texas will be the new California

>>128081942
No, you're worse than an illegal immigrant in this state. They have more rights than you do.

>>128081608
Only if it's not your state of residence. Otherwise you do. What I really want to make sure is that because I was ORDERED to work in that state, that I won't get fucked out of 15% of my income for no good reason when I already have single payer (shitty) healthcare.

>>128079058
goddamn you are retarded.

>>128079835
> move to Texas

Fuck off, you people are ruining our great state

>>128082187
>Canada style
its literally Canadian taxes 15 fucking %

>>128077519
Where you going beach bro? I'm in oc thinking about moving aswell

>>128082088
How many sqft is your wife

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>>128082210
CIVIL WAR NOW!!!

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>>128075262
Can you cancerous faggots move back now?

>>128081783
>we do have the major technological production facilities on lockdown.
Keep telling yourself that.
I bet all those toyota and nissan employees did.

>>128075262
Now that I think about it, they'll push for a higher state sales tax. I wouldn't be surprised if that is raised to 10% minimum, couple that with counties and cities having their own averages. You could potentially witness sales taxes anywhere between 15%-20%.

>>128076925
if califags come to my state, watch your back because I will probably stage an accident inwhich you and your family will die.

>>128082278
>>128082176
750 ft
And
5 foot 6

>>128079040
If they're smart they'll setup in the west valley of Phoenix metro rather than Scottsdale. Less traffic for employees etc

>>128081942
How the hell do you stay in for 20 years and not eat lead?

>>128075262
>15% state tax increase to pay for it
I already pay $3500 ever month for a two bed room apartment in San Francisco and now this......................................

>>128082350
Jesus. I just bought a new car, that was a lot of fucking sales tax down the drain.

>>128076887
come to NC. Fintech is getting big in Charlotte.

go literally anywhere else in the states and you can get more sq ft for less money

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>>128082293
Oh anon the war ended long ago already, and we have all lost it.

>>128080919
NC has lots of jobs!

>>128076282
nigga... WHAT IS
>print more fiat money

Everytime I think of the 20 trillion so called debt, I always wonder what that means. To mean it pretty much nothing but a number, it seems logical to think we will pay it back somehow (the taxpayer) but im not sure thats how it works.

>>128079058
Most of the tech company's CEOs have declared they are no longer expanding in California due to the insane costs and taxes.

Not to mention, most locate their financial wings in states so they dont pay california taxes. i.e - Apple : > http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/business/apples-tax-strategy-aims-at-low-tax-states-and-nations.html

Anytime I hear someone ignorantly and proudly make a statement such as yours, I know them to be the least bit informed on California's dire and growing predicament... Not even its beloved companies pay taxes and are avoiding it in ever exotic ways.

>>128076282

2 options:

1. Print the money
2. Default on the debt

>>128080568
You're a retard for living in California in the first place.

>>128082687
Archive.

>http://nytimes com/2012/04/29/business/apples-tax-strategy-aims-at-low-tax-states-and-nations.html
--> https://archive.is/U24Mc

>>128082635

It's being flooded with cultural diversity and polluted by college cultural Marxists.

>>128082694
That's not even a choice Default it is.

>>128082720
Thx bot.
>>128082472
>>128082484
WELCOME TO CANADA!

>>128082659

It's closer to 200 trillion.

>>128081783
>we do have the major technological production facilities on lockdown

Is there something actually forcing tech companies to stay there? I seem to recal that a lot of them are incorporated in Delaware. Software companies in particular don't need a lot of special local infrastructure support, and increasing use of H1B workers suggests cost sensitivity.

I'm honestly curious about what keeps them in such a high-cost area to begin with.

Shit, I bet this will be just like the NHS where you go and you're killed by a Libtard cuck Muslim terrorist every week! It's a shame California will never be the Utopia that is Alabama.

>>128078459
You could try Wyoming, but it is harsh here. Weak people who cannot handle hard winters and small towns will not make it. Plus side we have more guns than people, huge open spaces and mountains that provide fun hunting. We have no state tax and low sales tax.

>>128082707
The easy jobs at startups are here tho

>>128076282
nothing happens

there's on personal accountability - it's public debt

>>128075262
Burgers will finally get that Brazilian feeling when public healthcare is completely shit and it causes the price of just about everything plus your taxes to fucking skyrocket

>>128077721

Who wants to schedule an appointment when you can be seen right away and get your opio- I mean, meds?

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THATS IT

IM MOVING TO TEXAS

AND LONE STAR ANONS CANT DO NUFFIN ABOUT IT

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>>128076879
Quebec Sales Tax - 9.75%
Federal Sales Tax - 5%

Taxable income Rate
$42,390 or less 16%
More than $42,390, but not more than $84,780 20%
More than $84,780, but not more than $103,150 24%
More than $103,150 25.75%

Federal tax rates for 2017
15% on the first $45,916 of taxable income, +
20.5% on the next $45,915 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $45,916 up to $91,831), +
26% on the next $50,522 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $91,831 up to $142,353), +
29% on the next $60,447 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $142,353 up to $202,800), +
33% of taxable income over $202,800.

>Poor People pay 31% (15% + 16%) on first 41K of income + 14.975% sales tax
>Tax Brackets go up to 58.75% for over $200K CAD ($150K USD)
>Capital Gains/Interest Income taxed at marginal rates (up to 31% - 58.75%)

Best part is capital gains are exempt on your home, another reason for our obscene housing bubble.

>>128081690
Time to start killing them

California is antiwhite.

>>128077721
you have to train people to have a general practitioner first. Problem is the general frame of mind for the poor.
>I'm sick and have a fever
Choice A
>Go to big Shiny hospital with all the medical equipment that won't turn me down
Choice B
>Call some doctor in the phone book with a name I can't really pronounce

Soon every state in America will be California.

There will be no more fly over states. Just California, Vegas, Colorado, and Florida. That's it.

And maybe Hawaii. But Hawaii needs more Californians.

>>128082694
>burgernomics
>the economy of the masochist
boy it's gonna be beautiful to see burgers trying to deal with the rising taxes and debts without having anyone else on the planet that can help them

>>128082856
>Default on debt
Who's gonna come knockin?

SO is Chicago all liberal utopias are dying.

>>128082687
I wasn't speaking about things in silicon valley of which is Apple. I was talking about Biotech. I usually hear about businesses expanding and laying down new buildings and its clear from the way they treat their employees that things are good.

>>128083338
there are no gp anywhere, they already got pushed out of the market. you think they are gonna just open back up now? they will leave california cause the pay is going to suck. a broke state wont be able to pay the doctors

>>128083036
Trouble with Montana and Wyoming is there are no fucking jobs either.

>>128082504
Fintech can fuck off, I'm not touching that shit ever again.

Good BBQ though.

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I'm confused, are they raising taxes by 15% of notional, or literally upping cali state tax rate from 13% to 28%?

>>128083501
China for starters not sure who next.

>>128078765
List skills

>>128083571
This. I wish I was a comfy Montana fag like Ben Garisson, but theres not need for engineers in rural suburbaness

>>128078806
No I was that Chinese guy that worked for Yahoo.

>>128082928
Beautifully sarcasemed my canuck friend

>>128083545
>they already got pushed out of the market
It's really that bad there? I mean I'm in Texas, I can't really understand the world of california outside of disneyland.

>>128075262
Anon California can't go bankrupt. Their universal healthcare will be funded by money from other American states.

>>128076887
Charleston sc is a big tech start up place

>>128083373
Not really. Nevada as calfornia's largest border sharing neighbor remains unaffected.

California shit has only managed to spread north through washington and oregon.

>>128083654
15% on top of current rate, they wont even make it half a year before they have nothing left.

>>128083501
jews and chinards mostly

>>128083828
You are literally the first person I have ever heard state this, so I am heartily disagreeing. What were the last 3 major exits there?

>>128079835
Don't move here. You idiots, republican or democrat are shit. We are tired of y'all coming here and driving up our real estate prices, and cost of living.

>>128076598
Please no, don't export Cali faggotry. They'll duplicate their failure in other states like financial Ebola.

>>128083393

Yeah, I'm not going to feel so bad about the people I warned and didnt want to listen and instead care more about the next game or HBO show.

But this is the future they chose.

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>>128083254
Sorry, in Quebec you pay 51.75% marginal on income over $103K, which is $76K USD

Then any capital gains / interest income get whacked at 51.75% LOL

But a Muslim couple with 7 kids gets the pre-tax equivalent of $284,000 in benefits.

>>128083990
Like where in particular anon? where do you live so I can avoid ruining your state specifically during the mass exodus

>>128083654
according to sco.ca.gov the total estimated 2016 tax revenue for the state was roughly $120 billion

the 2016 budget (spending) was $140 billion

this new plan costs estimated $400 billion

you do the math

(hint: it never balances)

>>128081690
Sounds like locustism to me

>>128075262
Sweet. I'll just fly to CA whenever I need free surgery and them come back to a normal state.

>>128083139
Yup. Its already happened to college tuition due to easy loans. Fucking leftists just dont fucking get it.

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>>128083875
So 15% of 13% ie. 1.95% = 14.95%

Or 28%?

>>128076514
pls no. keep them out

>>128083673
linux
python
java
c
web devel

also, you can check out cyberian.me

>>128084257
This
We're full.

>>128084159
refugees welcome

>>128078638
i still manage to get fucked over by NYS income tax every year. fuck this place

>>128078200
>AS or NM
Kek, surely you mean CO, WA, OR, TX. There is dick in AZ and NM, unless you count one medium sized Intel plant in AZ

t. former AZ resident

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>>128084134
What the fuck?
That can't be right

$400 billion a YEAR? or is that over 10 years or some shit?

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>>128076879
>>128076598


What the fuck do I do?

I live in california and everything I have is paid off: house, cars, etc.

I'm currently applying to work for the government, the only place that seems to always be hiring. If I get a governemnt gig, do I stay and bleed the state dry, or start making plans to gtfo now? My house needs work, but is apparently worth $300k It has sentimental value, especially to my wife, but if the state turns into Detroit 2.0 and the value plummets, I don't want to be left holding the bag.

>>128076887
Go to the middle of nowhere Montana or Wyoming. A successful startup in those parts would make a difference

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>>128084134
unless somehow income grows by 400% they are fucked hahaha

>>128075262
CA resident, about time these fucks finally do something they've whined about for years. Can't wait for it to collapse.

>>128084286
What I really need is a programmer that understands the binary language of moisture evaporators

>>128075262
Cool.
Going there for that MRI I need.

>>128084473

Shh! STFU retard!

>>128084473
I'm really considering that. It could be a significant part of the economic force of a small-medium sized town and that would be advantageous in a lot of ways (tax treatment, political power, etc.).

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>>128084195
jesus no wonder you leafs are letting your country go to trudeau, your dumb af
whatever you pay today, you will pay 15% more when this passess, so 28% or whatever your current rate is + 15%

>>128081851
>>128082250
>>128083959
You fags should do something about the Mexicans. Texas isn't even 50% white.

>>128084509
Exactly. Rape them for their money and prove how that system doesn't work without border control at the same time. Win win.

>>128080831
What happens when all that biotech investment money goes directly into the welfare state and all biotech research is no longer funded?

>>128077714
>>128075262
http://archive.is/QEZ4m

>>128084444
Sell the house and move before the value tanks.

If your wife wants to stay, then I would recommend that you begin to think of getting a seperation.

>>128084501
ah, we can get a droid for that. I hear theres some jawa traders with an astromech droid that should do the trick

>>128084658
Exactly. All you gotta worry about is Yellowstone erupting

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>>128083542
You spoke partially about silicon valley.
Tech companies don't pay taxes to California or the U.S. Their manufacturing also isn't in California or the U.S.

> I was talking about Biotech. I usually hear about businesses expanding and laying down new buildings and its clear from the way they treat their employees that things are good.

California's Biotech companies don't pay taxes to California or the U.S. Their manufacturing most definitely isn't in California due to regulations

Let me give you a red-pill on tech in California :
It's a literal showcase phenonomen. You put a portion of your top workers in show-case land Cali, put your financial ops in a tax haven outside California and likely the U.S, put the bulk of your workers some place else, and put your manufacturing some place else.

Do you even work in tech?

>>128081163
its so dry there it never seems hot to me either

>>128076879
Illinois has a higher sales tax

t. a Trump voter surrounded by libcucks

>>128084747
Naaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh

Fix the house and then rent it for passive income

>>128075262
Fuck they are gonna drive out their people and fuck up other states.
Thank god Texas has an amendment for a balanced budget.

When is that state gonna implode

why havent they imploded yet

why dont the rich snobs refuse to leave

>>128083959

Speak for yourself, I have gained about 100k already on my house, just waiting out a bit more rushes before I GTFO and go live somewhere more comfy than this hellscape state with no fucking nature.

>>128084404
Nope that's the per year number. ~40 million people to cover, $10K average or so.

Keep in mind that's the number they're pitching, which means you can double it.

>>128077573
Just build a wall around the west coast and let them eat each other

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>>128084501
popeyes_chicken:
mov eax, 4
mov ebx, 1
mov ecx, buzz
mov edx, 6
int 0x80
jmp bangin

bangin:
pop ecx
cmp ecx, 100
jz white_cracka_cops
inc ecx
jmp tha_game_plan

white_cracka_cops:
mov eax, 1
mov ebx, 0
int 0x80

matematics_n_sheet:
push esi
mov esi, 0

pythagorean_remainder_sheet:
mov edx, 0
mov ebx, 10
div ebx
add edx, 48
push edx
inc esi
cmp eax, 0
je benjamin_stack_frontage
jmp pythagorean_remainder_sheet

benjamin_stack_frontage:
cmp esi, 0
je whack
dec esi
mov eax, 4
mov ebx, 1
mov edx, 1
mov ecx, esp
int 0x80
add esp, 4
jmp benjamin_stack_frontage

whack:
mov eax, 4
mov ebx, 1
mov ecx, nl
mov edx, 1
int 0x80
pop esi
ret

section .data
fizz dw „Fizz", 0Ah, 0Dh
buzz dw „Buzz", 0Ah, 0Dh
fizzbuzz dw „Fizz Buzz", 0Ah, 0Dh
nl dw 0Ah, 0Dh
section .bss

Let it happen. This is the redpill California will need.
We don't need to nuke it right? This will save it... right?

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>>128084404
every fucking year
>$400 Billion or if you like, $4 trillion a decade.

>SHES GOING DOWN BRACE FOR IMPACT

>>128076887
Texas is most business friendly anon.
Bring it to El Paso, yeah there illegals here and its 85% Hispanic but the whole city is becoming less Dem since these local elections.

I predict they pussy out and the "assembly" doesn't pass the bill.

>>128078338
unless weed is legal, what will one do for work in a small town that isnt already done by an established resident?

>>128084998
It will end up like Detroit in some parts, and Venezuela in others

>>128078074
The secret is out, Hoss. All you can do is fight like the Devil to preserve as much Texas as you can, except for Austin, you should firebomb Austin until even its spent ashes can hold a flame.

I love TX, but after living in Austin for almost seven years I hope to see that liberal hipster shitfest burn.

I miss all the wonderful breweries, especially Middleton Brewery just outside San Marcos.

>>128084855
It's weird because every time I go to Vegas in the summertime I'm fucking dying yet AZ felt like an average day in LA

>>128075262
I feel sorry for Az then because we already have to many Killaronia refugees here as it is.

>>128077721
>One of the aims of single-payer healthcare is for people to
not exercise any personal responsibility, ever

>>128085135

You don't live in Austin, you just visit. It is like Miami or Las Vegas, you don't want to live there.

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>>128076879
>Be richfag in California
>Invest money in Corporation for retirement
(company earns 1M that year for my share)
>35% Tax of Corporate Earnings
(650K left)
>Earnings get paid out as dividends
>39.6% Federal Income tax
>13.3% + 15% State Income Tax
(208.65K left)
>Go to spend the money
>10% Sales tax
187.78K in purchasing power

>81.22% of Effective purchasing power reaped by the Government

**Well not exactly but past the marginal income threshold this holds true

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>>128084998
>46% white
It's beyond saving.
The whole state will eventually be Detroit if not worse.

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>>128084747
i live in california, good luck selling right now. literally every other house is currently on the market for 2008 levels. she is primed and ready, the failure will be of epic proportions. luckily i rent

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>>128084911
Holy shit. That's 15% of GDP.

Canada has the same population yet only spends $138B CAD or $100B USD on healthcare. How the fuck is it $400B?

>>128078200
>>128078459
>>128078764

We don't want more cali fags
Stay out

>>128078734
Classic Lib move, goto a nice white area when all the commie and diversity policies fail. They do it every fucking time, it's infuriating.

California is going to break up into smaller states in the next 15 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias

>>128075262
At least no one called them bigots though, anon.

>>128076514
Shit Texas is gonna get fucked with these idiots.

>>128078074
Mate, just load up your rifle and start shooting those faggot ass commies

>>128075262
holy shit cali is so fucked

>>128085318
OMFG just end it already.

>>128084953
>mov ecx, buzz
illegal command

>>128075262
lol fucking /pol/ math.

>400 billion a year

>too stupid to realize that is healthcare spending, which is already 350 billion per year

>has no idea how anything works

>is dumb

>pretends its a 3x increase in spending

i hate commiefornia as much as the next guy, but this is some breitbart math

dumbass

>>128085284
Tell me about it. Forever FUCK the I35! Jesus, memories of the I35 make my brain REEEEEEE!

I've regularly ran into traffic games well after 11pm, almost ALWAYS near Ladybird Lake.


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Odin's beard, the farmers are fucked.

Shoot the fleeing White Communists on site. Look at Colorado as a warning.

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Post yfw you don't live in California

>>128082205
>Only reason socialist programs like that work in nord countries
Please stop repeating this false propaganda point
https://iea.org.uk/publications/research/scandinavian-unexceptionalism-culture-markets-and-the-failure-of-third-way-soc

>>128075262
>cali implodes
>mass exodus
>the refugees go on to cuck other states.

haha the trump tax plan fucks these blue state niggers with their state tax deduction.

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>>128085718

>>128076879

Who gets hurt most when sales taxes are raised?

>fucking over the poor

Wow, that's entirely new for anti-Christian juden filth like you kikes.

>>128082350
Funny how these supposed"champions of the poor" implement endless regressive taxation like that.

Not to mention "open space laws" which have driven land cost up to insane levels making it extremely hard for lower income people to afford their own homes

>>128080831
Do you think research is worth money? LOL dude you're sheltered

>>128085457

Fuck this gay Earth, why do this fucking commies have to ruin everything they touch?

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>>128085457
Yes, yes they will. That makes me sad.

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>>128075262
At this point they're doing a blitzkrieg for
>destroying California as the most valuable state in the Union, which is fine because "fuck the USA" amirite
>giving indigenous people reparations and total mobility from South America and Mexico. State funded reconquista thus treason against the Union.
>Upon total destruction of California economy, the rest of the US will have 30 million disgusting communist liberals and spics to take in and have their electoral votes hijacked
California is crashing this bane this very moment. Mainland invasion of California when? They've forfeited their right to federal representation at this point.

>>128075262
Please god no

>>128084444
Sell the house, and pay all CASH for your next property. Do not take out a mortgage, and your money will be reinvested in full

>>128085318
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Seven figure income winds up being middle-class in California, pricing everybody but the 1% out of existence. People line up for miles at the bread line, and then for miiles more at the water line since California can't pipe in water anymore and has to ration it. Living under an overpass crumbling because they can't repair roads, drinking Dasani that Coke donated as a tax write-off and eating a hunk of stale sourdough, can't even have bedding unless it's compostable.

But at least the state will pay for your year-long antimycobacterial drug regimen when you get tuberculosis from the homeless in your shantytown.

>>128076887
>Dear Christ how is anyone gonna afford to live in that shithole anymore? Time for cali fags to get the hell out
If it's tech you have other options. Insane to be starting a business there unless you just wanna brag about being in cali.

>>128086124

>all the rich sell their land before the crash
>they buy up land in new boom towns
>make millions on the rush
>after the drop they buy up cali land again
>cycle continues

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>>128085318
>company returns $1M on assuming 20% ROE
>I own $5M in company shares
>I live a lifestyle less than of a Google Cuck
>I am a dividendcuck

I could easily move that money abroad and shield you from virtually any taxes legally

t. (((Investment Banker)))

>>128085589
give us the real math then
>you cant

>>128081690
image Texas but Austin is every city.

>>128082293
>Thx based Abbott
W-what if Greg Abott is a family friend?

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>>128078945
Oh shit nigger what is going on?

>>128076887
My father, who is a VP of a 3000 person company today called me to tell me that California is the worst state to do business in.
The thing is, I agree. I do a lot of business in California, even though I don't live there. We have what are essentially shell offices in expensive parts of the country. We win jobs there because of the local "office" presence, and then we just send the work to the engineering Mecca that is Kansas City, which can pay engineers well to do good work, without political BS.

>>128078764
The only reason Flagstaff is now in a blue district is from the last redistricting. We used to be a swing district, but the faggots that be screwed that up for now.
Now I did try and get McCain out on the primaries. Face it he is a Dem in practice.

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>>128076887

Come to Phoenix, the Valley of the Sun. Affordable housing, educated population, growing economy, growing startup culture, independent spirit, gun rights, cheap gas, 90% sunny weather. It's everything you need and more!

>>128075262
does cali like shooting itself in the foot? whatever more business opportunity for better states.

>>128085589
Well that is how all Republican retards think...

You mention single payer to them and they have a seizure trying to wrap their heard around it and then go "hurrrrrp a deerrrrrrp muh taxes will go up"...

Ignoring that they and their employer would no longer be buying insurance privately, thus their income would remain the same, they would simply be paying the single payer instead of a private insurance company.

Hell it would probably even be cheaper (IE: their burden lessened) since the government can eliminate the profit margin entirely... Not to mention negotiate better rates since being the single payer means they are the only customer, so people can either take what they can get or no longer do business in the US. Plus the elimination of redundant bureaucracies from several different independent insurance companies into a single bureaucracy.

But nope. You mention it and they shit themselves and start bitching about communism.

>>128084091
sauce on that figure?

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>>128075262
I honestly can't believe Commiefornia isn't the equivilant of western Europe at this point. They have had the freedom to do green shit since forever. They've had the freedom to create a fully western Europe style healthcare system since forever. Just fucking do it. I don't give a shit.

NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU FROM DOING ALL YOUR LEFTIST SHIT. JUST DO IT

>>128077721
1. You have to get a GP.
2. If you have more than shit that gets fixed easily and it isn't life threatening be prepared to wait.
3. If all else fails, go to the US.

>>128086180
Running a business here because I've been working here and my network is here. If I knew a ton of programmers and financiers in Texas I'd be there.

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>>128085577
>section .data
>fizz dw „Fizz", 0Ah, 0Dh
>buzz dw „Buzz", 0Ah, 0Dh
>fizzbuzz dw „Fizz Buzz", 0Ah, 0Dh
>nl dw 0Ah, 0Dh
>section .bss

fizz dw „Fizz", 0Ah, 0Dh

>>128082050
>Socialist max exodus to Texas
>12 more years of Sylvester Turner
No. Please. I will go, I will redpill. I will not let my state become any less Crimson.

>>128086196
>california already spends $350 billion on healthcare
>pass single payer
>the $350 billion once spent on a public/private mix is now spent on a fully public system

Its not rocket science, friendo.

>>128086171
Yeah 200K doesn't go very far in SF valley. The funny thing is that 1M earnings before tax at current economic valuations goes for ~20M. You literally need to buy 20M of stock to generate 200K a year extra spending money.

>>128085353
that 15% number is what it would cost if they had no source of revenue to pay for it and no cost reductions.

They use that as a example if they had no sort of income to pay for it and had to start from scratch.

Actual cost is suppose to be 1% of income if you earn more than 235k a year
-9% of income if you earn 65k a year and have no healthcare
-6% of income if you earn 65k and have some sort of insurance
-2% of income if you earn 65k and your employee pays for insurance.

This bill does not specify a tax / revenue source. so if it passes the governor desk there is no tax increase since none was written in. (i assume they will pass that later or get the money from a existing tax or savings)

>>128082088
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKCRHhmHvjg

>>128086180
There are a lot of tech companies investing here in central Ohio, including heavy hitters like Amazon. It's centrally located to a lot of population centers, has lots of space, decent tax atmosphere, low cost of operation. North Carolina is another good place right now, or parts of Missouri. But LOL at California crashing its economy with no survivors.

>>128079606
lolwut? Reduction in spending? WTF are you on about?

>>128079058
Your supposed caring about social justice libertards will be leaving because they are expected to use more of their money.

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>>128076887
>I am doing a startup here in California, co-founder and I are discussing this second where the fuck we are going to relocate to, this state is insane and I know that we will be on the hook to pay for it.

Check out, Boise, Idaho.

Nice white city, up and coming tech/startup scene.

Come home, White Man

>>128086530
Agreed. I don't want shitty libtards fucking up our state any more than it is already.

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>>128086390
The Muzzie Gibs figure?

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>>128086651
What are the women like? Can I find a snowbunny?

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>>128075262
California is going full Puerto Rico. You never go Puerto Rico.

>>128085351
>luckily i rent
Someone's been taking Peter Schiffs advice

>>128084134
4 trillion in the next decade...
California is going to single handedly destroy America. I hope at least people will realize that socialism will never work.

>>128086347
thats where I'm going once I get my electrical engineering degree from a public university in CA, just milking the taxpayers before I abandon this godforsaken bureaucratic mess

>>128077519
>>128082267
Why haven't you guys moved out earlier? I moved out back in 2013 and doing well

>>128075468
Wtf I'm moving to California for free gibs

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>>128086262
Also self replying because the flag of commiefoina

>>128086533
5% ROE is quite low.......

>>128076282
Yes but this is only Killafornia, so it does not affect the national debt you stated.

>15% state tax increase to pay for it

LOLOLOLOL

How to wreck your state in ten years or less

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/05/31/universal-health-plan-would-save-californians-37-billion-and-cover-more-people-study-finds/

>"The plan will save Californians $37.5 billion annually in health care spending — even after adding the state’s nearly 3 million uninsured."

/pol/ B T F O
B
T
F
O

>>128076598

Stay out of Texas

>>128079058
>we'll just tax the rich people :^)
>we'll tax the people that can most easily get up and move :^)

They want everyone to move out..

They want silicon valley to become the state.

>>128078254
Consider that doctors that work for corporations (i.e. hospitals) are salaried and do not give a fuck as long as their direct deposit goes through. they show up, see patients, go home.

In private practice you can just refuse to see some faggot if he can't pay you. You can even turn faggots away because you're not emergency medicine.

>>128079835
Texas is going to shit as it is. Filled to the fucking brim full of spics, with nigger infestations in Dallas and Houston and in some extant San Antonio as well. Most of the politicians in this state are fucking kikes as well.
As if we needed Cali fagugees adding to the overpopulation already caused by our wetback roach problem. It's like shitting in an overflowing toilet.

>>128078074

This. Stay out of Texas, we're prospering and don't need any more people.

>>128087310
Wait what why what do Codefag my man.

>>128086952
They'll just fall back on their two favorite excuses:

>It wasn't real socialism
>It was perfect, but the Republicans fucked it up

Seems like there's a lot of Texas fags here. Where else y'all form

I'm a South Carolina fag