>holocaust is a ho- SHUT THE FUCK UP Look,I don't mind

>>127813600
>I hate conspiracy theorists
the only conspiracy theorist here is you. you believed it happened

>>127813600
are those dead german civilians who allies bombed?

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>>127814442
No, that's the debut episode of a fairly edgy German radio program. That's the host, Ed 'Totaler Krieg' Muncster.

>>127813600
>checks flag
are you lost?

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>>127813600
Ill just leave this here

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>>127813600
The problem with people like that is that they read some /pol/ posts and say if didn't happen. A lot did die from disease, a lot did die due to allied bombings keeping supplies out, but they also were killed systematically. Everybody talks about the ovens and how they can't burn fast but neglect to look up any numbers of how many were actually cremated. 6 million is also probably an exaggeration. What doesn't help is that Jews who wrote books about their experiences lied about shit. Like pic related. Obviously not true. Hitler's plan was to eliminate the Jewish problem and he was on his way. I too find it pretty amazing that people can read through the Nuremberg trials and articles by irl Nazis and quotes from Goebbels and Hitler and still say it didn't happen.

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>>127814969
>42 million

Wat?

>>127815791
He's saying this is what they claim as the power of the chambers. If they were at full capacity, they could burn 42million, according to them. Obviously it's nonsense, that is why he's showing it like that. You can't burn a body in 5minutes otherwise you could burn 42gorill in a year.

>>127813600
Yes OP, the holocaust did absolutely happen. No one can deny the state sanctioned pogroms against the Jews, nor the concentration camps. But we can be historically accurate, and the historically accurate figures are that approximately 250,000 jews died in the concentration camps, and half of them in the last few weeks of the war due to German supply lines being cut. Typhus and starvation raged through the camps. The idea that the Nazi's gassed millions is as ludicrous as the infamous holocoaster.

>>127814969
The fact that numbers may have been inflated doesn't disprove shit.It has nothing to do with German intent to exterminate Jews.

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>>127813600
too bad none of it can withstand any scrutiny

>b-but I heard 6 million died in the holocaust!
Normies swallow 6 gorillion because they never critically examine such a grisly topic, believing (((Hollywood))) and Allied history is 100% factual

>b-but what about the Nuremberg trials! Some Nazis admitted war crimes, so it must be true Hitler had a Final Solution to kill all the Jews!
Rudolph Hoess confessed 25 million were killed at Aushwitz, does that sound believable? Allies tortured German POWs. At Dachau Nazis had their testicles kicked in and crushed beyond repair

At Auschwitz, (((Soviets))) said 4 million died in gas chambers. Today, the death toll sits at 1.1 million (from ALL causes), though still grossly inflated going by Red Cross reports
>Auschwitz - Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE56dcgGVMs

>b-but it wasn't just Auschwitz!
At Majdanek, (((Soviets))) said 2 million were killed in gas chambers.
Now they say <60,000 died (primarily of disease). Red Cross estimated 8,800
>The Majdanek Gas Chamber Myth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsJtB2F9i8

>b-but the Reinhard death camps: Treblinka, Sobibor, and Belzec!
There is little to support the claim that tens of thousands, let alone 1.3 MILLION died
>1/3rd of the Holocaust (debunked):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE

>b-but Nazis made lampshades out of tattooed Jewish inmates!
The lampshade myth comes from a propaganda film made to de-Nazify Germany by a US Psych Warfare unit
>Buchenwald: A Dumb Dumb Portrayal of Evil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HlPcaP9x5o

>b-but I've seen Steven Spielberg's Survivors of the Shoah!
Watch the following
>The Last Days of the Big Lie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8

>o-ok, let's suppose you're right. Why does it matter?!
It matters because no one can criticize the Jews without being labeled an anti-semite. Denial is ILLEGAL in 20 countries
>The JQ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKy3fCvMz-8

>>127815250
I agree with everything you said here,we hold the same opinion.

>>127815250
>trusting confessions that were tortured out of officials during the (((Nuremberg))) trials

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>>127813600
>Holocaust is a historic fact.

prove it

>>127816942
Reported to the Stassi, have fun in prison Hans.

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>>127813600

Why did you post a picture of typhus victims?

You've posted a photo of a bloke in front of a trailer with some dead bodies. That doesn't prove the 6 million you cunted fucking nigger.

>>127816480
>The fact that numbers may have been inflated doesn't disprove shit.It has nothing to do with German intent to exterminate Jews.
>Saying you don't like Jews in your country is logically equivalent to killing 600,000,000,000 of them
I've seen it all.

>>127816480
It literally does tho.

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why would someone take the time to write this

it's not even funny anymore

just stop

>>127817147
I never tried to prove 6 million dead.
I said holocaust.Deliberate attempt to exterminate Jews on the part of Germans is a historical fact,and the fact that more or less than 6 million died is not so relevant to me.

>>127816480

There's no evidence of a systematic program to exterminate Jews.

>>127816592
the ORIGINAL numbers, taken by the red cross from every camp, wasnt even 300,000.

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>>127817371
>There's no evidence of a systematic program to exterminate Jews.
Yes,it's true that if you say that all the papers,data,confessions,photos and videos are fake,then indeed,there is no evidence.

That is funny OP. David Cole is a Jewisg historical revisionist that was TOLD by Dr Franciszek Piper (Senior Curator of Archives at Auschwitz) that the holocaust was fake. David went into hiding for 20 years because he was being chased by Jewish extremists

>>127813786

10/10 first reply

>>127817325
>you have to exterminate a group of people
>spend untold effort hiding actions from the Red Cross and international observers, supporting a logistical system including gas, raw materials, and FOOD for prisoners in """death camps"""
>could have just locked the kikes in a barbed wire enclosure and been done with it

>but no, it was totally a genocide, 'muh chosen people dindu nuffin'
???
The kikes would have had it coming anyway, they got off lightly considering what they did. Ethnic cleansing =/= genocide.

>>127817565

Most of that evidence is fabricated ti defame the National Socialists you cuck

>>127813600
Sweetie posting is soooo over honey

>>127817574
Correction he was told that the gas Chambers at Auschwitz were reconstructions

>>127817732

Nope, they were built after the war by orders under (Jew) Stalin

>>127817817
That's what i said you stupid ape

>>127817593
>could have just locked the kikes in a barbed wire enclosure and been done with it
You're obviously too stupid to even know what kind of organsiation is needed to take in that many people over the course of years.
Please consider suicide.

>>127813600
Sage

>>127813600

Pay reparations for Jasenovac oyvey :^)

>>127817565

Proof of one actual gas chamber that wasn't simply used for delousing would be enough.

>>127815250
This is kind of my thing. Give me one, single charge and I promise I can d bunk it to your satisfaction.

It must be specific, like the Hoess confession or some photograph.

I used to think the way you do, but then every time I dug deep it came up false.

>>127814969
They didn't use the kind of ovens a crematorium uses. They are more comparable to waste incinerators. You could burn more than one body at once and could add fuel on the body instead of just heating the air and wait for the body itself to burn up. That makes it a lot faster.

>>127816576
Haha yay I love it when people try to use youtube videos as actual "evidence." Don't you get it, leaf? You can never prove the holocause didn't happen because your evidence is so flimsy, and we will never be able to prove it did because you think any real facts are just jewish tricks, so just shit the fuck up.

>>127816446
I don't think you understand the term Holocaust. From the USHMM website:

> "The Holocaust was the systematic, bureaucratic, state-sponsored persecution and murder of six million Jews by the Nazi regime and its collaborators. "

>>127818128
Don't believe everything you hear in mandatory Holocaust class, Hans

>>127817325
and you guys thought american education was bad. i mean it is but come the fuck on man. do your own research, read the testimonies of some some of the "survivors" and come back and tell me nothings off about it.
read news articles from before ww2, jews were already throwing out the 6 million figure, claiming russians were genociding them then as well.
read about the pols and jews in poland murdering hundreds german residents displaced after ww1.
dont be a sheep.

>>127817901
Okay, please explain why it is necessary to feed people if your intent is to kill them.
Why not just:
>take Jew
>put Jew in fenced area with armed guard
>let Jew starve

But no, that's too easy, you have to let them 'survive' in a (((death camp))) for years before you gas 6 bazillion kikes.

>>127818317
I know this from a class about waste incineration for my engineering degree. I could build an oven that fulfills the specifications above.

>>127818257
They forgot the 5 million gentiles, equaling a total of 11 million dead. I don't believe in it anyway.

>>127817325
Without proof of gas Chambers, it is impossible to prove that extermination was the goal

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>>127818191
what a convincing argument! You clearly watched the videos in question and didn't just pull that out of your ass at all. You certainly refuted the evidence presented in the videos. Well done, rest easy JIDF soldier. Mission Accomplished!

By the way, Steven Spielberg made a documentary called "The Last Days" about the Holocaust.
The film features Paul Parks, a black soldier, as the one American soldier out of 5 people featured in this documentary talking about their experiences during the war.
The problem is, Paul Parks was a known fraud and liar. He was outed after taking part in an earlier documentary focusing on black soldiers who supposedly liberated concentration camps in the war (no black soldiers liberated any camps -- whoops!).
That didn't stop Spielberg from including him, though. And it didn't stop the documentary from getting the Oscar that year, either. And the Academy never stripped it of its Oscar, despite this all being common knowledge.
Amazing, isn't it?
You can find out about this and other ridiculous lies by watching this documentary about "The Last Days"

>The Last Days of the Big Lie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8

>>127818462
Because they still needed some labor. And it actually takes a lot of time to starve people to death.

>>127818191

>You can never prove the holocause didn't happen because it's against the law to do so and you will be jailed for trying to do it

Fixed that for you. Wake up.

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>>127813600
Fifth thread tonight
I already BTFO'd you twice. Fuck off Aaron.
And fuck your proxy samefagging ass.


>>127818532
A
fucking
leaf?
Damn.
A based leaf!
Blow Aaron the fuck out.
Fuck proxying pussies

fuck you croat bitch

the holocaust never happened


kikes are liars, deceivers, extortionists,blackmailers, terrorists,mass murderers, destroyers of cultures and civilizations and I cannot wait till a real holocaust comes for them, on a global scale.

>>127818469
Except the crematorium in the pictures of Auschwitz do not meet your idea of a big pit.

You are also forgetting that unlike waste, humans have a high water content and bones need to be broken down. This would take a fucking long time to do.

Wow.
Just thinking - whatever the case, either way the world is fucked up.
Either it did happen.
Or it didn't happen.

>>127817901

Here is a link to a wartime report from Korherr for Hitler written in 1943 titled:

Statistical Report on the "Final Solution"
http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/sub_document.cfm?document_id=1533

It details down to the individual (excepting some areas in the East that were in a state of war) what happened to every single Jewish man, woman and child.

I think the numbers have been exaggerated and it is used by elitist Jews to gain/keep an unfair advantage but yeah, I do believe the holocaust happened.

There's more proof for the holocaust than there is for slavery in America but, I've never seen anyone here or anywhere deny that slavery in America was once a thing.

>>127818532
This guy knows what he's talking about.

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>>127813600
>Look,I don't mind you being White Nationalists
We don't care WHAT you mind, or even THAT you mind faggot. Holohaox is a meme. OP sucks Jew cock

>>127815250

Some were killed, maybe half a mill max, but thats a drop in the bucket compared to overall causalities, and in light of what they did next door and within Germany. Its a damn shame more of them weren't slaughtered. 10 million would've been a more appropriate figure, even 20 million.

>>127818769
The proof for the holocaust is flimsy conspiracy garbage.
I hate being lazy but it's late fuck this
Look up the site:
holocausthandbooks
and watch the vids
A few of a dudes are a bit abrasive but denierbud and others (1/3 of the holocaust video) are pretty good, cite everything.

Only way to break the holocaust is to disprove the allegations. The allegations are based off of shitty testimonies either by idiots or people who may have not even been in Germany during the 40s

>>127818577
>still needed labor
For what? You think they could be trusted to make armaments? German industry was producing enough on its own anyway until the Allies bombed it to shit.
>it takes a lot of time to starve people
Starve, dehydrate, whatever. The point is they'd die within a week and you invest minimal effort.

>>127813600
fuck off retard. it was already proven to be impossible to burn 6 million body in a few years

>>127818761
>Korherr report

Go back to
>>>/x/ faggot
You just about gullible enough to fit in there with this shit

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>>127818362
>pic related
>>127818462
I can't believe I have to say this:
1st,because you need space.
2nd,because you want the word to spread out that you're killing people by starvation on purpose
3rd,the ones that were fit were used as a slave labour,the ones deemed unfit were exterminated upon coming to camp.This is why you have surivors.
Again,consider suicide.
>>127818526
That is completely incorrect.Before the gas chambers,there was a goal to exterminate Jews.This is literally why they were created.
Even if there was no gas chambers,the fact would still remain.

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>>127819050
Wow I thought I would get to sleep come the fuck on
This dude right here is an obvious proxy samefag. Or he's in New Delhi a cubicle over from OP

>>127817565
>>127817901
>>127819237

Why don't you stop being a dense little faggot OP and cite a specific piece of evidence, rather than continuously referring to vague "papers" and "videos" that prove the holocaust. Which papers in particular? Which videos? Please be specific so that we can actually have a conversation.

>>127819050
>For what? You think they could be trusted to make armaments? German industry was producing enough on its own anyway until the Allies bombed it to shit.
The German farms weren't mechanized during WW2. The was a severe labour shortage here. And there are countless other fields like mining, construction, etc.
And at no point during the war did Germany produce enough material.

-rrible lie

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>>127817271

Its real, my mom dated a nazi during the war and had me sterilized because i had brown eyes and my bio dad was related to Andrew Jackson. GO EUGENICS!

Being Detective:
It takes 2 to 2.5 hours to cremate a body.
At an oven working an impossible 24 hrs a day that gives you 10,000 ish burnt bodies per oven per year.
Just doing the maths.

This site is in the top google slot. It says hundreds of thousands were burnt in Auschwitz, but I confess I haven't read it all.

>>127819481
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/crematoria-and-gas-chambers-at-auschwitz-birkenau

>we just want to know what happened to the six gorrillion Crofag.

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>>127818761
oh really? then why is it that this document you present is never mentioned in any of the documentaries I have seen about the holocaust, or emblazeoned on the front page of every holocaust museum website, or enshrined in massive 120 pt bold font at the entrance of any of the holocaust tourist traps?

Could it be... because it's a FAKE? A Fraud? A Lie?

Even holocaust experts say that there isn't a single war-time document about the supposed holocaust, because it was a top secret. Nothing was ever printed about it.

Why do people like pic related make up huge numbers like 5 million non-Jews killed by the Nazis out of thin air? Could it be because the Jews are a bunch of liars?

Is that why you're posting lies here?

>>127819237

If the goal was to exterminate the jews, why was it necessary to ship them hundreds of miles across the continent just to immediately kill them in the most comical way possible?

I've got 6,000,000 people here that you need to gas to death and then cremate, you've got a handful of ovens and it takes about 3 hours to cremate one body. so say you have 20 ovens that hold 20 people at a time that's 400 people every three hours, so if you do this Monday to Friday 24 hours a day it will only take you 1879 years but you have to do it in 8 and not leave a single shred of ash as proof, think you can do it?

>>127813786
Fpbp

>>127818469
You autocidal idiot. While there are no gas chambers, there are plenty of crematories left. They are pathetically inefficient coal burners compared to today's highly efficient propane and methane burners.

Even if you could get more than one body in at a time (which you couldn't) it wouldn't save any time or fuel because you still need to boil all of that water off.

I feel bad about how you fuckers still have denazification classes in primary school and gymnasium. That shit is fucked up.

>>127819237
You just proved extermination by citing gas Chambers, then you conceded that they might not have been real in the next sentence.

Any one else seeing this shit?

>>127816446
>the holocaust
holocaust means burnt offering in jew speak. it means gas chambers of extermination and torture and evil dr. mengele medical experiments. none of that happened.

forced labor camps and deportation is not a "holocaust."

>>127819363
>not enough farm workers
>Put Jews in camps where they eat food from German farms, while not working on said farms
There are so many layers of stupid to this, it's unbelievable you could type this without baiting.
And I never said Germans produced enough to win the war, only that they produced enough to supply their military. The war was unwinnable by sheer numbers.
>>127819237
>need space
>implying camps with sleeping facilities don't take up more space than a fucking field where you don't care what happens to anyone inside of the fence

>you want the word to spread out
What does this even mean? Didn't they supposedly hide all of the gassing?
>the ones that were fit were used as slave labor
Again with this. What would they be doing in camps that couldn't be done by the tens of millions of non-kike laborers in occupied countries? They can't be trusted with arms. Most of them lacked skills. They didn't work in fields. What the fuck were they doing?

>>127819609
>being this dense
because the fucking population would turn against the Nazis.You don't want regular people to see your police and army execute people,women and children at their doorstep.You take them in,and exterminate them in a secluded area by a group of loyal criminals.
You're way too dumb to realize how politics and power work.

>>127819675
So do people who think it didn't happen think the footage and everything is fake? Or that it did happen but not on the scale they say?

>>127819237
feel free to provide a single document to back up any of the myriad lies you're regurgitating

"Holocaust is real" is a Motte and Bailey argument. You tell us some Jews died which we agree with and then when we're out of sight you start talking about the flaming oven coasters and the mechanical crab pits. It's over Shlomo we've had enough of your bullshit.

>>127820027
you should stop speculating and produce physical or documentary evidence from original sources

>>127819775
Are you retarded?
I said that his point was wrong,even if gas chambers didn't exist.Existence of gas chambers is not a proof of intent to genocide.

>>127820027

Stop ignoring my post you fucking kike:

>>127819343

Start citing specific evidence or shut the fuck up.

>>127820041
what footage? you mean the pictures of British bulldozers burying a few thousand starved Jews due to typhus outbreak?

>>127819237

>1st,because you need space.

Let's not get rid of these people cuz we "need space". You wat?

>2nd,because you want the word to spread out that you're killing people by starvation on purpose

You want the word out that your super secret program to genocide the jews is underway so that they enter the trains without putting up a fight??? Makes sense lmao

>3rd,the ones that were fit were used as a slave labour,the ones deemed unfit were exterminated upon coming to camp.

Yes yes they were used as slave labour for the human lampshade factory and the soap made of babies warehouse. Lmao

>>127819343

Also this

>>127819481
Shit id worked that out for three ovens.

>>127818128

Shit man, you can look at a ton of videos or even visit the place and see that they have normal cremation ovens. And to be honest, I don't think some super oven like you're grasping for would be able to achieve a rate that makes the official story possible.

>>127819970
My family had Jews on their farm at the beginning. But unlike Ukrainians, the Jews would try to run and hide so it was more effective to use them in larger camps.
And no, Germany did not produce enough to supply the military. That's just western propaganda to make the enemy you beat more fearsome.

>>127813786
FPBP

>>127820199
Well the footage I have seen was from Alfred Hitchcock when they first arrived to document it. It freaked me the fuck out when I first saw it seemed real to me. I am pretty new to the concept it may not be real so I am willing to listen to others thoughts on this. I believe the film is called night will fall. If footage is real of all those bodies was it just a normal death camp of sorts? Or do those who believe in general think those images or footage is fake?

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>>127819172
The Korherr Report is widely accepted by all parties, Jewish and German governments. There is even a clean Wikipedia entry for it.

It is even posted online in its original form here:
http://www.ns-archiv.de/verfolgung/korherr/faksimile-himmler/

I just posted an easy to read Englishversion for /pols sake.

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PUT FORTH SPECIFIC EVIDENCE OP YOU JIDF SHILL

>>127820403
>But unlike Ukrainians, the Jews would try to run and hide
What a surprise. So now you're saying that the Jews were just put to work on farms, but kept on running and being typical kikes, so they were contained. Not exterminated.
Okay, I got what I wanted.

>>127813600
>conspiracy theorist

But holocaust believers are the conspiracy theorists, since they have eyewitnesses (the Red Cross examiners) who found zero evidence, and all the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't find any evidence of the Holocaust either.

How many other events in history have no evidence yet require absolute belief or you will be put in jail? ZERO.

>>127813600
>i hate conspiracy theorists
What the fuck are you even doing here

>>127820445
>If footage is real of all those bodies was it just a normal death camp of sorts?

Belsen wasn't a death camp, it was actually one of the better run camps primarily served for young children and the frail/elderly. Near the end of the war, when the Eastern Front collapsed the Germans started panicking and sending way to many people there to Belsen thinking it was safe and fine and it got overpopulated and they ran out of resources fast. Inmates didn't have safe drinking water right near the end and there were food shortages and a general camp breakdown which led to a typhus outbreak which devastated many inmates (Anne Frank included). Multiple thousands of people actually died in Belsen *after* the British took it over because they had no way of combatting the typhus and they ended up having to burn down several of the barracks just to stop the disease. You can read some of the Belsen trial transcripts if you're interested in the camp guards perspective, I'd recommend Irma Grese and Irena Haschke. At one point the British general asks her if she is not ashamed by the state of the prisoners and she replies "what could we do?"

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>>127813600
ok ,cia.

>>127819237
That make a lot of sense. Let people know you are exterminating races so they are scared and then go to extraordinary, nigh impossible lengths to cover up the fact.

Pick one, it can't be both.

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>>127820043
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2011/10/world-war-ii-the-holocaust/100170/

Here an article with a decent amount of photos.
Read about Wannsee Conference,Korherr Report,read Goebbels' diaries,listen to the Himmler speech on the extermination of the Jews,listen to the confessions on Nurember trial.
>>127819970
A typo.I meant to say "You DONT want the word to spread out."
Yeah,you can trust a Jew,like everyone else to work at gunpoint.

I'm actually surprized how mental some of you are.You actually believe Nazis didn't have intentions of exterminating the Jews.
Some would say you're evil,I don't think so.I think you're fucking dumb.

>>127820155
What proof is there that the Nazis tried to commit genocide? Hilberg himself said there isn't any. The Jews were the enemies of the German nation. They were the ones that tried to boycott German goods. The Germans put them in concentration camps so they couldn't be used as a fifth column.

If the goal was extermination, how did people survive the camps? If we're trying to exterminate them why would we only kill some? It doesn't make any sense.

>>127820852
Please archive blogs with a reputation for shilling and clickbait.
https://archive.is/2kOAA <- theatlantic.com article

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>>127813600
>We don't need any of you here,leave.
We were here first.

>2017 and still falling for the holohoax jew.

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This isn't ultimate proof or something that's capable of making holocaust deniers shut up, but whenever this topic comes up I link to this image. (See pic. related.)

It's a bill by the company Degesch for Zyklon B. By law it was demanded that harmful gas like Zyklon B had a warning substance added, a distinctive smell, so that a leak in one of the containers wouldn't kill those handling it.
Now, this bill has a last line, underlined, that reads:

** Vorsicht, ohne Warnstoff! *
Which translates to: "Caution! No warning substance!"

If Holocaust deniers were right in that Zyklon B was only used to kill lice in the clothes of the KZ inmates, why should they specifically ask for gas without the smell?

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>>127815250
You fags never talk about why jews deserved it.
The Einsatzgruppen killed communists. It's just a fact of history that communism and Judaism and inseparable. Marx the founder of communism was a kike, Lenin the founder of the soviet union was a kike, and Lenins chosen successor Trotsky was a kike. Germans watched Jew NKVD head Yagoda, Jew Kaganovich, and Jew-married Molotov famine millions of European Christians around the Black Sea in the 1930's. etc. etc. etc.

I still assert that the kikes deserved to be wiped clean from Europe. Basically I agree with most of what this Rabbi said. I also dont believe the holocaust happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mucb6r8tFAI

>>127818076
Most of the photographs are doctored so no need to explain that. I'm curious to find a link to perhaps an SS officer who speaks out against the Holocaust numbers/accusations. Can never find them because of course Google would never put that shit up top.

>>127819237
>Even if there was no gas chambers,the fact would still remain.

"Even if we have no evidence, we will still persist with our insane claims."

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A lot of the biggest claims were instantiated and enshrined after 1965, and fed to us in school using essentially trauma based mind control in a mass psyop.

Churchill's 6-volume tome The Second World War, published in 1953, which won the Nobel Prize for literature, makes no mention of a systematized homicidal gassing program (although I do not have my own copy, I have never seen this refuted). Now this was a man with access to all the intel, and he wasn't exactly detached from International Judea. So why wasn't it mentioned? Wouldn't the (((Nobel))) people have denied him the prize if he deliberately omitted this purportedly central truth?

The answer is: he wasn't expected to, because the "gassing program" meme hadn't been enshrined as dogma yet. The narrative has evolved over the decades.

Those films you were shown in school? the bulldozers? Starvation and typhus. Horrible to be sure, but the deaths, however many, were not due to what they taught us.

The lampshades and soap memes? (I was even taught about this in school)... That was the work of the OSS (precursor to CIA). Billy Wilder and Alfred Hitchcock were brought in. It's Hollywood, baby, and the essence of propaganda is repetition.

Think about the effect that had on, say, the American population, whose single largest ethnic demographic throughout the 20th century was: German.

Think about what kind of power can be leveraged by shaming an entire generation or two into self-loathing and steering them away from any form of self-pride or organization towards self-interest save the commercialized outlets you give them.

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>>127820567
>The Korherr Report is widely accepted by all parties, Jewish and German governments.

Oh shit, the report that proves the final solution was to exterminate the Jews in gas chambers is accepted by the Jewish gov't? Wow that's amazing!

And the German one, too?! The one that literally has anti-denial laws in place that have imprisoned scientists and their defense lawyers for trying to enter evidence into court that proves the supposed gas chambers at Auschwitz were never used in that way? Wow that must have been some document!

>There is even a clean Wikipedia entry for it.

Oh wow, Wikipedia even has a page on it? That must mean it's totally legitimate! I believe it now, it is irrefutable!

>>127820793
So they just twisted it then to fit their agendas with the bodies they had? I feel like I could believe this just because I am learning lately what the liberals are doing. To think people doing this could go that far back. Was it actually Hitlers dream then to kill all the jews?

>>127820816
I mean to say "You DONT want the word to spread out."

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>>127820950
Why would the camps supposedly using high amounts of insecticide as "homicidal chemical weapons" be receiving the same amounts as camps that never killed anyone?

>>127821019
This is all about Ancient grievances, anons. Germany and Italy were reviving Rome. International Judea still hates Rome for having taken over the Holy Land and destroying their temple.

But on a more strategic note, yes, the reason why Hitler and the Germans were held up as the poster children is, there were more Americans of German ethnicity than any other background in the 20th century, and shaming them and preventing them from organizing on the grounds of their self-interest as a groups has proven to be incredibly lucrative.

And it has been turned against all white nationalists, of German decent or not.

>>127815250
>6 million is also probably an exaggeration

clearly you've never studied even for 5 minutes

>>127820852
You still haven't provided a shred of evidence that the Nazis intended to exterminate the jews, and you're already resorting to ad hominems. It's like you're admitting you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>127819591
You misunderstand. The Korherr Report shows very few deaths. It is primarily emigration, relocation and a higher mortality rate than birth rate because most of the young Jews emigrated before the war.

The Korherr Report accounts for every Jew without the need for the Holocaust. It even uses census numbers and describes the potential census errors and statistical errors.

>>127820955
Never once said they didn't deserve it. Seeing as how they propagated millions of deaths for many of years and currently hold more power than any of us can possibly imagine. Their Marxist tendencies and power makes them a big threat. But just because I don't like something doesn't mean I'm gonna disbelieve something about them.

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>>127817325
The problem is no investigation is allowed into the details. How many died and how they died are important but every attempt to look into it has been stonewalled by (((someone))). Truth does not fear investigation. The fact that it is illegal to investigate concentration camps in Poland is alarming, especially because that is where all of the so called death camps happened to be. There were death camps in Germany, but the US investigated them and it turns out they were just concentration camps.

>>127821030
>Was it actually Hitlers dream then to kill all the jews?

He just wanted them out of Germany. That's why they created the Haavara Agreement.

Americans rounded up both Germans *and* Japanese people and put them into camps during the war in places like Manzanar, but when Germans did the exact same thing (because they lost) they are re-interpreted as sinister death camps which the Allies got away with because there was nobody left alive to oppose their claims.

Also to be fair to us, the vast majority of insane claims about Germany were pushed by the Soviets who were trying to distract from their own crimes.

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>>127813600
>Holocaust is a historic fact.Accept it.

Yes, it happened. Now, did 6 gormillion actually die? Were the Nazis really so sadistic as to make human skin lamps and soap bars? Was the Holocauster even remotely plausible?

I don't deny that the Holocaust happened, but you are nothing short of a naive fool if you think that it was AS horrible as (((they))) make it out to be. Plus, it also takes the limelight away from other genocides, some of which were much, much worse.

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>>127821030
If there was a "final solution" it was deportation, not exterminaton. That would become clear to you if, instead of posting questions, you would first take the time to watch the videos linked to here:
>>127816576
and
>>127818532

If you really want to know the truth, you need to spend the time to wade through all the bullshit.

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1) Where did the 24,000,000lbs+ of ash go?

2) Why on all of the aerial photos of the war are there no massive coal piles at the camps, massive coal trains, or massive coal mines that are surely required to torch 3k bodies per camp per day?

3) How did IG Farben produce hundreds of tonnes of hydrogen cyanide from what in 1942 was their remaining chemical plant and why didn't they just use a simple ammonia/bleach combo which is far cheaper/deadlier than hydrogen cyanide but notably doesn't kill lice?

4) Why did Germans use the most inefficient and costly methods available with the Jew when they had hundreds of state of the art industrial slaughterhouses and were low on fertilizer? Why didn't they make a nice Jewish paste to spread on the fields next spring?

>>127818056
Underrated post

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>>127813600

holocaust means "burnt offering"

explain why the jews call it this

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>>127820950

Stop acting like the burden of proof is on us. There could be any number of explanations for something like that. It is not "proof" that holocaust denial is untrue, any more than the complexity of the eye is "proof" that atheism is untrue.

The "evidence" for the holocaust taken as a whole is extremely flimsy, considering what a large operation it apparently was.

>>127820998
Are you retarded?
You do realize that gassing is only a METHOD of extermiantion,right?
Elimination of certain menthod does not prove that other menthods were not used.
I'm not saying that Germans didn't gas the Jews,cause they did,of course.
I'm saying that EVEN IF IT WAS TRUE THAT GAS CHAMBERS WERE NOT USED,INTENT TO EXTERMINATE WOULD STILL BE THERE.
God some of you fucking idiots are unbelievable.

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Also, why use an insecticide designed for delousing clothes, instead of high tech chemical weapons they had developed, stockpiled, then never used in combat?

http://germarrudolf.com/germars-views/202-some-technical-and-chemical-considerations-about-the-gas-chambers-of-auschwitz-and-birkenau/

https://youtu.be/PSYJBVvyP08

>>127820027
Then what the hell was behind the Einsatzkommando stories?

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>>127820955

The holocaust never happened.

But it should happen again.

>>127813600
Starved, allies bombed out the rails to the camps.

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Besides whats the point of giving a shit about a bunch of dead kikes? So you can have white guilt for the rest of your life?

>>127821212

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>>127821153
Again,it's true that if you say that all the papers,documents,data,confessions,photos and videos are fake and say that they don't count as evidence,then indeed,there is no evidence.
It's hard not to resort to ad hominem when you're talking to a literal retard.

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>>127813786
FPBP

>>127813600
you shut the fuck up hymie
the holohoax is a hoax, but it should have been real
i'll make it real, your messiach wont coms until it actually happens anyway so i must do what i must, it's something intrinsically personal though, kike-o
shalom

>>127821338

>INTENT TO EXTERMINATE

There has been zero evidence that the Germans desired to wipe out their prisoners of war. It was all hearsay pushed by the Soviets after the war which people like you gobble up.

>>127813600

>We
Get fucked

>>127818191
(((Americans)))>>127818257

>>127821515
>There has been zero evidence
>>127821466

>>127820403
I feel so bad for you denazified fuckers. (((They))) really did a number on you.

>>127821613
>>There has been zero evidence

Primary sources, not secondary ones.

>>127813600
>Look,I don't mind you being White Nationalists,or even Nazis.
If YOU aren't white nationalist or nazi, then you need to stop pretending that you speak for /pol/ when you are the one who doesn't belong here.

>>127819266
It really annoys me how you fucking idiots misinterpret that quote.

Normally evidence is only permitted if it's relevant to the trial. The Nuremberg trials were exempted from that so that they could enter all evidence into record and serve as a history. The Nuremberg trials were not a trail because those people were guilty as fuck anyway. It was "for the record" in the most literal sense.

>>127820950
They didn't specifically ask for a gas without the warning substance, the manufacturer made that decision. They asked that a warning label be placed on the canisters. Even the pro-holocaust people acknowledge this.

>>127820445
By definition any image Americans took was on German soil and no Jewish or German sources claim there were any death camps on German soil.

What you saw was war and disease casualties of all races that Hollywood edited together to look like an atrocity.

A cursory search of USHMM website will prove this true.

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>>127821338

Name one German document that explicitly refers to the mass extermination of jews.

Every single one of your claims relies on an interpretation of the text. "Final solution" could simply mean expelling the jews from the country, which was the public policy of the Nazis prior to the war.

>>127821667
What would make you believe that Nazis,lead by Hitler,had the intent to exterminate Jews?Is there anything?

>>127813786
fucking rekt

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>>127821466
Videos like the ones taken months AFTER the camps had been abandoned? Of people who died from starvation or disease or from allied bombing raids (like at Nordhausen)?

Perhaps you're talking about videos like the documentary about Buchenwald that was filmed by an American Psych Warfare unit, designed specifically to de-Nazify the German population and convince Americans what they had sent their best to fight and die for? Yeah, that's some fucking GREAT evidence for what the Nazis were up to. Shrunken heads, lampshades, and tattoo specimens, oh my!

Confessions derived from torture, or from trials decades after the fact when the holocaust myth had already been established? yeah those seem trustworthy. You know, many women admitted to being witches during the witch trials, because they were being tortured and also because they thought they might avoid execution if they worked WITHIN the framework of the prevailing lie than AGAINST it.

What photos show a gassing?

What papers, what documents, talk about gassing people? You're forgetting that Holocaust myth makers excuse the lack of documentation by saying it was all "top secret" and therefore nothing was ever printed about it.

>>127821816

Explicit discussion of a mass extermination event by any high ranking German officer or even semi-high ranking German officer.

>>127813600
> no evidence of gas use.
> how could they incinerate or bury six million jews in six years with the equipment at hand?
> Not even six million in Europe at the time of the holocaust.

Just wait until you learn about the blood libel. You'll WISH the holocaust was real.

>>127821613
Then post the evidence here you fucking shill wtf. The closest you've come to presenting anything is "listen to himmler's speech" no link. nothing.

>>127821466

You provided 0 of those "evidences".

>>127821816

Footage of him saying he wants to kill all the Jews

>>127820041
Any western footage and images cannot be of exterminations because there were no exterminations on German (ally liberated) soil.

What you have seen ar war and disease casualities of mostly Germans.

Here is the USHMM death camp map. Notice the hey are ALL deep in Soviet controlled areas where the western Allies were not allowed access.
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/media_nm.php?ModuleId=10005144&MediaId=354

>>127821796
Are you retarded?
Why do you ignore all the data,documents,papers,confessions,photos and videos but would believe if they explicitly wrote EXTERMINATE?

I was seeing this girls a few months back,and after few dates I told her to come to my apartment TO WATCH SOME MOVIES.Guess what,I fucked her well.
Guess what,she knew what I meant.
In fact,if I had told her:"hey come to my apartment so I can fuck you well",she probably wouldn't come.
Jesus some of you fuckers are autistic,I swear.

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>>127813600
>we

kys kike

>>127813786
Came here to post this. Good on you, fellow burger

>>127822056
HE WOULD OBVIOUSLY NOT SAY IT YOU FUCKING IMBECILE.
JESUS CHRIST.

>>127813600
Really, I wish the lolocaust did happen. The thought of mountains of jew ashes and trenches full of festering kike bodies makes me happy.

>>127822101

Do you accept that there has been a giant propaganda push from the Allied side since the end of the war to portray the German side and actions as uniquely evil?

>>127821029
No dude. The Korherr Report explains that there were no exterminations.

Read it. It clearly explains where they all went. Hint:it doesn't involve gas chambers or mass graves.

>>127822101
>all the data,documents,papers,confessions,photos and videos
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
WHAT DOCUMENTS
WHAT DATA
WHAT PAPERS
YOU HAVENT LINKED A FUCKING THING.

SERBS SHOULD HAVE KILLED YOUR PARENTS WHEN THEY HAD THE CHANCE

>>127822101

>all the data,documents,papers,confessions,photos and videos

There he goes again. Are you even a real person?

>>127822239

This is a Kafka trap. You think that lack of evidence for something is yet more proof that it happened.

You are impervious to reason on this point.

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>>127822101
Shlomo, your redherrings about papers, documents, photos, videos, and confessions are addressed in my comments here:
>>127821952

all of your "points" are also thoroughly destroyed in the videos posted here:
>>127816576

>>127822239
>HE WOULD OBVIOUSLY NOT SAY IT

He wouldn't believe it or think it either.

>>127822101

>Why do you ignore all the data,documents,papers,confessions,photos and videos but would believe if they explicitly wrote EXTERMINATE

Name one document.

>>127817565
There is literally not ONE document saying that there was a plan to exterminate all the Jews in Europe. Photos are usually doctored or used out of context and the confessions, which I assume you're talking about Nuremberg were typically forced. Videos? Of what? Germans executing resistance members? Not one video exists of them executing Jews. Fuck you, you stupid kike.

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>>127814969
>>127815946

Who is saying Auschwitz only had 4 ovens?
And who is saying 1 (a single) oven muffle can burn 1 body in 5 minutes?

Please give proper citations before you goyim embarrass yourself again.

>>127815250
novel

>>127816576
Let me take on this dumbass in particular detail.

>Rudolph Hoess confessed 25 million were killed at Aushwitz

You're off to a bad start, by making a typo. Hoess said 2.5 million, not 25 million. And guess what else is funny? Hoess revised his Auschwitz number several times. Surely if he had been tortured to extract a confession concocted by allies, they did a piss poor job if he later said ackschually 1.5 million, and said he got the 2.5 million estimate from Adolf Eichmann? Also despite being sentenced to death he actually went out of his way to write that his Polish captors treated him much nicer than he expected, while saying only during the day of his capture was he beaten up.

>Soviet 4 million

Correct. Note how the old sign never said 4 million Jews. Hence the 6 million doesn't change, the Soviet number was propaganda to draw attention to Auschwitz having "killed" 3 million Soviet citizens.

>b-b-but kike they once said 2 million in Majdanek as well!!!!!

Sure they did. And if anyone took the number seriously, 4 + 2 = 6 so nobody was killed anywhere except in Auschwitz and Majdanek. Nice logic, Hans. Too bad historians did not believe it and therefore the revision isnt shocking.

>Reinhard death camps didnt kill anyone cuz denierbud made a video called OneThirdoftheHolocaust

So if they were transit camps, where were the over 1 million people (number confirmed as per Höfle telegram) transited to? Oh right, denierbud has no answers.

>>127819343
>cite a specific piece of evidence

Himmler's 1943 Posen speech for starters

>>127819591
>being this dumb, once again

The number "5" was arbitrarily chosen by Wiesenthal, yes, but are you denying Nazis killed millions of non-Jewish, non-combatants during the war???

>>127821756
Umm, no. The defendants were not allowed to give evidence, but the prosecution were allowed to give evidence without cross examination.

This is what we in the free world call a "Kangaroo Court"

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>>127814969
>42 million

>>127820325
Got pictures of said ovens?

>>127822319
>SERBS SHOULD HAVE KILLED YOUR PARENTS WHEN THEY HAD THE CHANCE
They never had a chance.In fact,my father was a soldier in Croatian war and had killed Serbs,didn't want to say how many.

On subject of proof,you can fucking google it.I don't have to link everything for you,you fucking incompetent child.

>>127820852
>muh ausrotten
literally kill yourself you dumb nigger

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>>127813600
Is it real in your mind?

>historic fact

Illegal to even investigate or even question irregularities

It would be like sending people to prison for daring to dig up fossils saying they were questioning dinosaur facts

>>127822653

NAME ONE GERMAN DOCUMENT THAT EXPLICITLY REFERS TO A MASS EXTERMINATION EVENT
>NAME ONE GERMAN DOCUMENT THAT EXPLICITLY REFERS TO A MASS EXTERMINATION EVENT
NAME ONE GERMAN DOCUMENT THAT EXPLICITLY REFERS TO A MASS EXTERMINATION EVENT
>NAME ONE GERMAN DOCUMENT THAT EXPLICITLY REFERS TO A MASS EXTERMINATION EVENT
NAME ONE GERMAN DOCUMENT THAT EXPLICITLY REFERS TO A MASS EXTERMINATION EVENT
>NAME ONE GERMAN DOCUMENT THAT EXPLICITLY REFERS TO A MASS EXTERMINATION EVENT
NAME ONE GERMAN DOCUMENT THAT EXPLICITLY REFERS TO A MASS EXTERMINATION EVENT
>NAME ONE GERMAN DOCUMENT THAT EXPLICITLY REFERS TO A MASS EXTERMINATION EVENT
NAME ONE GERMAN DOCUMENT THAT EXPLICITLY REFERS TO A MASS EXTERMINATION EVENT
>NAME ONE GERMAN DOCUMENT THAT EXPLICITLY REFERS TO A MASS EXTERMINATION EVENT

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Slowly as the /leftypol/ user uses what he imagines those evil stormfags say in his epic troll raid against the stormies he slowly begins to find himself using some of the lingo unjokingly.
Slowly his mind twists and contorts.
He begins losing friends on his home board on cripplechan, /leftypol/. He just can't agree that Marx's revolution theory implies the need for a violent uprising by middle class suburban NEETs like they say. Reddit is looking stranger to him too. /r/politics' complaints about "The Man" and Donald Trump just aren't resonating as much for some reason. He's still a communist revolutionary though, right?

>Man, those Jews sure are the worst lol
he says during one particularly juicy raid on that stupid nazi imageboard. He begins to find a good image to go along with it, as he browses his "stupid skinhead nazi faggot bait" folder he realizes he's filled it with infographs about Jews and how shitty they are. He doesn't disagree with half of them anymore. He starts to find himself agreeing with what he's posting, and finds himself posting more and more realistic, more moderate and fair strawmen.
>Maybe the holocaust really didn't happen?
He thinks to himself as he peruses the posts quickly before solving the captcha and hitting post..
He's posted a long well made paragraph tearing apart the amount of casualties involved with the holocaust, and even posted an analysis of Polish claims of brutality. What is this? Why is he agreeing with this nazi LARPer bunkum?

It's then he realizes. He wasn't the one raiding them. They were the ones raiding him.

>>127822239
He literally wrote it in his book bro.

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OP here.
Actually,I'm at a fault here.
I tried to have decent discussion with fools,who could deny that they're on 4chan right now with a straight face.
But I forgot that with fools and idiots you should never argue.
My bad.I won't reply anymore.

>>127821338
You are retarded, people have given you so much literature and videos for you to watch and yet you keep babbling on about your gas chamber and Holohoax meme, fuck you, stupid Croat.

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Assuming that Hitler started gassing Jews since day 1, that makes for 3,153,600 minutes.

6,000,000 Jews killed during 3,153,600 minutes comes out to 1.9 Jews per minute. That means Hitler killed roughly 1 Jew every 30 seconds. (LOL)

In Auschwitz, the most famous and biggest concentration camp, there are 15 crematoriums. According to Auschwitz survivors, Jews would go into the chamber, gassed for 15-20 minutes, then put into the oven.

It takes 1 hour to cremate a body using modern furnaces which operate at much higher temperatures than the traditional ovens at the camp. However, lets say that the ovens were operating at a level that we see today, that means it would take 1 hour, 20 minutes to gas and burn 15 Jews assuming they were all burned simultaniously. (Disregarding the time it would take for the gas to empty the chamber for the bodies to be transported from the chamber to the oven.) The elevators used to transport bodies were very slow and could only take up 7 bodies at a time with their weight capacity. However, for our greatest ally, we're going to assume that bodies were teleported instantly from chamber to oven.

That means 15 Jews were gassed and burned every 1.2 hours. That comes out to exactly 300 Jews every 24 hours (Assuming the gassing and burning of Jews was happening every hour straight for 6 years on an uninterrupted basis) the total # of killed jews would be 657,000 for those 6 years. The official Jewish story is that 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz alone

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>>127822827

>NAME ONE GERMAN DOCUMENT THAT EXPLICITLY REFERS TO A MASS EXTERMINATION EVENT

Here ya go, dingus.

See the phrase "juden exekutiert"? Now try doing your usual mental gymnastics to tell me it actually means free hot bath and deloused clothes.

Next time don't be so sure of yourself and screaming in all caps, or someone of my caliber might just come along and whoop your ass.

>>127821466
Again, you've literally presented nothing of the video, paper, document you're speaking of. You aren't very bright are you? If you want us to accept the Holohoax meme then actually convince us instead of acting like a typical Croat.

>>127822492
Pretty sure we are talking about just Jewish people who were killed mate. Stop conflating ideas.

>>127822492
Cmon man at least do your Holocaust research

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>>127822492
>You're off to a bad start, by making a typo. Hoess said 2.5 million, not 25 million.

That's where your wrong. He claimed at one point that 25 million were killed at Auschwitz. Of course nobody could believe that, so you try to squirm out of it by saying it is a typo.

>Too bad historians did not believe it and therefore the revision isnt shocking.

So now you're saying that for decades Jewish historians were not parroting the 4 million and 2 million numbers?

>So if they were transit camps, where were the over 1 million people (number confirmed as per Höfle telegram) transited to? Oh right, denierbud has no answers.

Transit camps? Treblinka may very well have been nothing more than a disinfestation stop before heading to another camp. That would mean only a fraction of those who went there died there, not the 750,000 claimed.

Also, many changed their names (often from Yiddish to Hebrew, sometimes they took on completely new ones) and emigrated to various other European countries as they fled the Nazi regime, as pointed out by denier bud. Are we supposed to count them among the 6 million, because their original names disappeared?

>Himmler's 1943 Posen speech for starters
"In his outline of the course of the war in the east, Himmler comments on the deaths of millions of Soviet prisoners of war and forced labourers."

Sounds like he's referring to Russians, who they are at war with to me. He speaks about the evacuation and extermination of Jewish people interchangeably. He also says "No one has observed it, endured it."

>The number "5" was arbitrarily chosen by Wiesenthal, yes, but are you denying Nazis killed millions of non-Jewish, non-combatants during the war???

There's a marked difference between civilian deaths in a war action and a planned extermination camp system. Can we conflate the American Japanese internment camps with the Tokyo fire bombings and nukes as well to claim that the Allies had a death camp in USA?

>>127818057
>used for delousing
But that would mean that Holocaust is the truth.

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>>127822962

>after I was asked repeatedly to provide evidence for my claims I finally ran out of excuses, so rather than admit I might be mistaken I'm just going to leave the thread

Cya round OP. Remember, you're here forever.

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>>127823129
nice calcualtion but
even the fucking SS says you are wrong they state that they could have burned up to 4000+ bodys a day in auschwitz...

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>>127813600
>>127813786
>>127822962

OP STATUS: FUCKING DESTROYED
Debunk these, I dare you motherfucker.

Nice COVFEFE desu.

>>127823129
>>127823129
loving german efficiency

>>127822492
I have Hoess' autobiography on my night stand and he clams to have personally executed 3 million Jews in Auschwitz. He stood there and watched them die because he felt it was his burden, not his men's. The problem is, less than a million people of all nationalities died of all causes in Auschwitz with an estimated 350,000 being gassed. The truth is that he had a weak mind and had a mental breakdown when he was in Weimar prison in the 1920's. The Allies threatened to send his wife and children to the Gulags if he did not cooperate and his Jewish interrogators heinously tortured him. His confession is false.

The Korherr Report explained that the Jews were transported to Russian territory, behind the lines where they already had lots of kike friends waiting for them, but that was only about a million people. The transit camps were exactly what they were called.

You can listen to Himmler's alleged Posen speech on YouTube. Then compare it to another, any other, Himmler speech and it is easy for anyone to tell it is not Himmler in the Posen tapes. Himmler had a whiny, nasally voice and whoever was on that Posen tape had a masculine voice with good cadence. I used to believe that story too until I pulled them up myself.

>>127823411
Look at number 2
>>127821272

2) Why on all of the aerial photos of the war are there no massive coal piles at the camps, massive coal trains, or massive coal mines that are surely required to torch 3k bodies per camp per day?

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Reminder that any European posters in here doubting the holocaust are breaking the law, and I will not hesitate to report you to the proper internet hate speech monitoring bureaucracies.

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David Cole Vids

>Montel Williams with Mark Weber
http://codoh.com/media/files/video/cole-weber-montel-williams-jx9G4zmpKv0.mp4

>Donahue with Bradley R. Smith
http://codoh.com/media/files/video/SmithColeShermerDonahue.mp4

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>>127818128
>They didn't use the kind of ovens a crematorium uses.
That's just incorrect. They were bog-standard 1930s cremation ovens housed inside a building labeled "crematoria" you can go and look at them yourself. There is no such thing as the imagined "super-oven" that holocaust believers seem to cling to. There are no strict regulations (bar dumping bodies in giant open furnaces) for the rate and conditions in which a body must be burned during cremation, if crematorium workers could find a decent way to burn a body in 5 minutes they'd be dying to know how, it would save them a fucking shitload of time.

There ARE faster ways of getting rid of bodies, nazis could have just had giant open furnaces that would have been capable of getting rid of batches of bodies in minutes, but there's obviously no evidence of them using giant open furnaces to get rid of bodies.

This whole line of argument is based on the idea that crematorium workers today don't burn bodies as quickly as nazis "out of respect/decency" so if the nazis didn't care about decency or respect for their dead why did they not come up with the furnace idea themselves? Why would they be using equipment and methods that would obviously limit their maximum killing & body-disposal potential if their goal was genocide?

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Daily Reminder that Neo-Nazis and 4chan Nationalists are nothing but furry loving faggots, with deep seeded rage pent up due to jealousy for how smart, successful, and sexy god's chosen people are. Face it, you lose to jews, so you choose to bruise the news and light the fuse!

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>>127823291

I love how you have already dug yourself into a hole but by all means, keep digging:

>That's where your wrong. He claimed at one point that 25 million were killed at Auschwitz. Of course nobody could believe that, so you try to squirm out of it by saying it is a typo.

Provide the citation where Rudolf Hoess said 25 million were killed in Auschwitz, then. As usual, you are confusing him with someone else (Kurt Gerstein), that's how loose your grasp of the subject at hand is.

>So now you're saying that for decades Jewish historians were not parroting the 4 million and 2 million numbers?

What I am saying, is that major holocaust historians, such as Gerald Reitlinger, or Raul Hilberg, had assumed a non-Soviet position about Auschwitz's death toll, in the range of 1.1 million to 1.5 million, as early as the 1950s.

>[over a million Jews who reached the Reinhard camps changed their names and never spoke about the holocaust ever again, and therefore we dun really know what became of them after the war all we know IS THEY DID NOT DIE THERE and that's all you need to know, kike]

The intellectual height of revisionist scholarship.

>Posen

translate this part from his speech:

"wir hatten das moralische Recht, dieses Volk umzubringen, das uns umbringen wollte."

You can find the speech on youtube.

>There's a marked difference between civilian deaths in a war action and a planned extermination camp system.

Do the close to 1 million deaths during the siege of Leningrad fall under "normal, expectable collateral damage under conventional military action"? No. Hence, sometimes they are considered part of the holocaust. The non-jewish death toll of the holocaust usually only extends to gypsies (roma), homosexuals, and Aktion T4 victims, but if you start adding in all the slavic civilians who died, you will quickly reach and even exceed Wiesenthal's estimate, and I am NOT talking about collateral damage from bombs like the civilian death toll of Stalingrad etc.

>>127821147
>What is sarcasm
The eternal kraut strikes again

Simply put, we can just take a look the assertion versus the evidence.
So the assertion is that 'x' million people died during the timeframe. So where is the evidence? We have documents using euphemisms. Not very absolute, as it is up to discretion and relies on a priori judgement.
We have documents with alleged murder death tolls. Millions, in fact. Where are the bodies? If 'x' million are claimed, where are the bodies? If the bodies (evidence) was destroyed, then the absence of evidence is not presence of evidence. You are making an unfalsifiable claim relying on an appeal to ignorance: not an argument with evidence. The shootings of partisans during wartime is much more feasible, no doubt it occurred. To what extent, that is the question.

It is quite telling of the conspiracy theory when all the pieces of "absolute evidence" lead back to documents or testimony speaking OF something occurring. Yet any inquiries to actually examine the mass graves that exist all around are denied and called anti-Semitic because actually exhuming the bodies is not evidence.
Not to mention the incapability of cremation ovens to reach under an hour rate for multiple bodies.
Cremation ovens were large enough to fit multiple bodies, yet it is not possible to cremate 3-4 bodies within one hour. It is a simple calculation of the thermal energy required to cremate a body of 'x' weight.

>>127823742
Because it did not take nearly as much coke to burn bodys as you think it did..in addition to this not all bodys were burned in the crematories

>>127823742

the aerial photos show 1 second of 1 minute of 1 hours of 1 day of the camp activity.

There are, I believe, a grand total of maybe 20 or so aerial photos, most of which shot in summer 1944 by allied and luftwaffe airplanes.

Furthermore, the amount of coal needed is less than you think. You can't make the simple calculation that if 1 average sized corpse needs x amount of coal for cremation, then 2 average sized corpses need 2x the coal. That calculation is WRONG. You achieve better economy (amount of coal per corpse lessens) when the cremation process is up and running and the muffles and constantly being fed by bodies. Plus you assume all, or most, coal had to be stacked outside the crematoriums, which is your third false assumption.

>>127824147
>Kurt Gerstein
Ah, you're correct. My bad.

Still, it proves my point that confessions from Nazi officials cannot be taken seriously. The Gerstein Report is often cited by holocaust historians and people like Deborah Lipstyadt without commentary.

>>127813600
>Holocaust is a
(((historic fact.)))

>>127824147
Rudolf's claims cannot be taken at face value without providing substantive evidence corroborating his assertions. Just because he claims to have seen something doesn't dismiss any inquiries into the claims he made.
The death toll discrepancy is self-admitted, yet the assertion remains that the Lollercaust is the most well-documented and logically sound-proof event? None of that actually matters as that is besides the point: the only thing that matters is the substantive, physical evidence for the millions who are claimed to have been killed. This includes the Posen speech. Or is your razor-sharp sense of intellectual rigour deliberately dulled when your worldview is on the pedestal/criticized? Welp, that's enough evidence, pack it up somebody claimed something that's all.
>Do the close to 1 million deaths during the siege of Leningrad fall under "normal, expectable collateral damage under conventional military action"? No.
They actually do. That is the point of a siege. War has no rules, anything goes. The only thing that matters is if you are able to destroy the enemy.
This includes everything, from Dresden to Pearl Harbour.

>>127818362
>read news articles from before ww2, jews were already throwing out the 6 million figure,
I remember seeing a compilation image with various examples of the 6 million figure. Does anyone have it? And more importantly, have any of those old newspapers been digitized?

>>127824829
inb4 somebody claims those news articles were all fakes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk

>>127824147
>translate this part from his speech:
>"wir hatten das moralische Recht, dieses Volk umzubringen, das uns umbringen wollte."

Is he talking about Soviet Jews, or Jews in general?

I haven't studied his speeches, nor do I know German. I used Google Translate. I don't know what speech you're referring to, or where it appears.

Besides, this doesn't jive with what happened at Buchenwald and you know that. Commander Koch was investigated for having killed a few Jewish prisoners, tried, and hung at the camp by the SS. If killing of prisoners was routine - we're talking about outright extermination - why would the SS (whom Himmler was giving these speeches to) try and execute one of their own camp commanders for killing not even a handful of prisoners at Buchenwald?

That doesn't make any sense.

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>>127824284

Your logic is truly funny. You are convinced that you'd be the smart guy among a group of people brainstorming a problem, but they'd just be looking at you weirdly.

>documents using euphemisms
see>>127823223

>where are the bodies

Do you believe WW2 caused some 60 million casualties? Yes or No? If yes, where are the 60 million (or 50 million, or 40 million, or at least 30 million!!!!) bodies, considering that unlike the holocaust, the WW2 narrative does NOT say most of them were cremated? Therefore it should actually be far easier finding dozens of millions of generic WW2 dead? Instead what we have found is far, far less. Yet you only doubt the holocaust?

>the absence of evidence is not presence of evidence
the absence of evidence (bodies) when paired with independent and corroborating testimony both from victim and perpetrator, paired with documents showing deportation of the claimed amounts of people to said locations, paired with pre- and post-war censuses, make for a good presence of evidence.

>Yet any inquiries to actually examine the mass graves that exist all around are denied and called anti-Semitic because actually exhuming the bodies is not evidence.

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.at/2009/03/photographic-documentation-of-nazi.html

>yet it is not possible to cremate 3-4 bodies within one hour

How long does an infant body take to cremate? How long that of a child? Revisionist scholars have always weaseled away from directly tackling this issue.

>>127824147
I applaud you in your efforts, but being able to convince these ass-backwards idiots that the holocaust happened is a herculean feat.

These are likely the same type of people that believe the moon landing was faked, and I'm sure there's a few here that believe the earth is flat.

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>>127824954
Cheers

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>>127824829

>>127824444

Revisionists like to throw the entire Gerstein Report out the window simply because of that one number, or Gerstein's other numerical estimates like height of clothes piles. But Gerstein's report is used by historians because of the fact that the execution process described is actually surprisingly accurate with the testimony obtained from various other Aktion Reinhard camp survivors who had never heard about Gerstein, and who were stationed at the other Reinhard camps. Gerstein was a witness in Belzec. Seeing what was happening, he made the estimation that if all other camps were operating the same way as Belzec, then altogether a death toll of 25 million could be achieved, which is actually a reasonable estimate if every German camp operated like Belzec, and there was a pool of 30 million people marked for extermination.

>>127821090
Brilliant.

>>127824987
>Ich meine jetzt die Judenevakuierung, die Ausrottung des jüdischen Volkes. Es
gehört zu den Dingen, die man leicht ausspricht. – "Das jüdische Volk wird
ausgerottet", sagt ein jeder Parteigenosse, "ganz klar, steht in unserem Programm,
Ausschaltung der Juden, Ausrottung, machen wir
Jews in general
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf8xUAZpaTA

>>127824954
My god!

It's almost like they had a rough estimate of how many Jewish people lived in a geographical area!

No one would ever know anything like this, ever!

>>127825053
>Your logic is truly funny. You are convinced that you'd be the smart guy among a group of people brainstorming a problem, but they'd just be looking at you weirdly.
What an odd way of not substantiating your claims.
>Do you believe WW2 caused some 60 million casualties? Yes or No? If yes, where are the 60 million (or 50 million, or 40 million, or at least 30 million!!!!) bodies, considering that unlike the holocaust, the WW2 narrative does NOT say most of them were cremated?
Except those bodies weren't cremated, they were killed during battle.
For example, Canadian casualties: http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/second-world-war/second-world-war-dead-1939-1947/Pages/files-second-war-dead.aspx
There are burial records and, you know, substantive evidence for the assertion. The reason why the death toll is pinned at "around 60 million" or whatever you claim is because that is the closest estimate. It is more than 'x' but less than 'y'. We know this because of the records (present the evidence here), but not every dead man could be taken into account, so that is why it is estimated.
Unlike the Lollercaust, it does not rely on an argument from silence fallacy which just states "Jews were here, now they weren't, so this obviously substantiates my baseless assertions and this specific method of execution".
Apples and oranges: different levels of evidence. One has proof, the other does not because "muh anti-Semitism".
>the absence of evidence (bodies) when paired with independent and corroborating testimony
On what basis can you determine the truthfulness of the testimony? What is the testimony referencing? Let's investigate what 'x' is claimed transpired, right? Oh wait, that's anti-Semitism because how dare you not presume guilt before innocence and take Jewish claims at face value!
Like I said, only way for your conspiracy to be proven true is to lower the bar of physical evidence to "well, they say it happened, so...".

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>>127824829
>>127824954

cherry picking the articles mentioning the number 6 while ignoring all other articles mentioning other numbers is how the revisionist operates to fool the average street person.

also, none of those articles actually say that many jews have been killed.

>>127825053
>http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.at/2009/03/photographic-documentation-of-nazi.html
You claim what you know. First of all, this implies that you can tell the cause of death and investigate the deceased from an image, which is not true. Second of all, all we can conclude is that 'x' people died and they are dead as of this date. What you cannot claim is adding millions of other corpses that are nowhere to be found.
That's how evidence works. If you allege something but can't substantiate it, you're making an unfalsifiable claim.
>How long does an infant body take to cremate? How long that of a child? Revisionist scholars have always weaseled away from directly tackling this issue.
According to: H.R.Haweis, Ashes to Ashes (London:1875), 101 and William Eassie, Cremation of the Dead (London:1875),106-108; See also Scientific American , Vol. 30, May 9, 1874, p. 295 and Vol. 117, 1917, p. 22.
"Cremation Capacity

The use of cremation ovens appears to have begun sometime in the 1870s. It is known from cremations carried out in 1874 that a 47-pound child could be cremated in 25 minutes, a 144-pound woman in 50 minutes and a 227-pound man in 55 minutes. In 1875 it was reported that a body could be cremated in 50 minutes."

HAPPENING:

>HUGE TRUCK BOMB NEAR BRITISH AND GERMAN EMBASSIES IN KABUL
>80+ DEAD

BEING SLID

>>127824399

RELIGION OF PEACE STRIKES AGAIN

>>127825474
>trust me it isn't an argument from silence fallacy but here's some population stats (dip in population=my specific method of extermination) and people that claim to have observed things that cannot have other independent investigations occur to confirm, lmao"

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>>127822827
Stfu retard how does it feel to have such spastic autism
Shouldn't you neetsocs be proud of him killing Jews one of his highest feats

>>127821090
>>127825305

because you actually need metric fucktons of cyanide to kill cold-blooded lice compared to the amounts you need to kill warm-blooded humans?

How about that.

Pressac estimated 95% of the zyklon-b cans used in Auschwitz were for delousing, and his book "Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers" was sponsored by the Beate Klarsfeld foundation.

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yeah, there is no evidence

no photos

no documents

it's all totally made up

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>>127825870

>>127817565

Somehow they had a "systematic program to exterminate Jews" without any orders, instructions, budget, etc. I guess everybody "just knew" what they were expected to do, like a mind meld?

What data? Do you mean this?
http://www.heretical.com/miscella/rudolf.html

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>>127825935

>>127825291
>But Gerstein's report is used by historians because of the fact that the execution process described is actually surprisingly accurate with the testimony obtained from various other Aktion Reinhard camp survivors who had never heard about Gerstein, and who were stationed at the other Reinhard camps

and yet they claim all these different methods were used to kill people at various camps:

-captured soviet tank engine (diesel exhaust)
-captured soviet submarine engine
-tanks of compressed CO2
-vacuum pumps that pumped out the air
-Zyklon B gas pellets

How can his testimony be "accurate" for other camps, when they were using such varied methods of execution according to witnesses?

You also know that his description of a gassing using diesel exhaust, which he said was timed with a stopwatch, is impossible to believe. Some of the people in the chamber were still alive after 2 hours, when they were all crammed in there with little to no breathing room, and with diesel exhaust poured into the room as well?

>>127818257

Six million, huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxbV3RsyQwI

>>127825833
>Note how the writing is all too small to read except for the headlines...

>>127825650

>a 144-pound woman in 50 minutes
>and a 227-pound man in 55 minutes

wew lad, it's almost like cremation time doesn't linearly increase with weight. So if Mattogno calculates it takes 1 hour to cremate 1 body in 1 oven muffle, if you put in an additional body of the same size and weight, maybe it doesn't take 2 hours for the muffle contents to cremate now after all???

:^)

>>127825837
but then how do you square the supposed eyewitness accounts of bodies that were dark blue after Zyklon B (cyanide) gassings, when cyanide causes the flesh to turn red, not blue?

>>127825650
In fact, that source is from an article claiming to debunk cremation stats, making it out as if cardboard cremation coffins increased the rate required to cremate a body by multiple factors (objectively untrue). All the evidence of that time, even in the same source, points to around one hour per body, yet somehow putting one body in the same oven means the rate increases uniformly, because fuck surface area or thermal efficiency.

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>>127826130

should help

>>127824364
No evidence of massive amounts of coal at camps so no reason to believe you.

>>127825909
Excellent site!

With sections such as "Holocaust Parodies
", I'm sure it'll give an unbiased look into things.

>>127825844
>>127825870
>>127825898
>>127825935
>>127825995
this is truly sickening
soviets got away with all these war crimes

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>>127825909
pic related
now listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf8xUAZpaTA 1:48 and see what is meant with judenevakuierung ot Endlösung der judenfrage

>>127824353
400 bodies per day takes a lot of coke. It should be spilling out of everywhere

>>127826132
wouldn't the bodies insulate one another and thus cause the evaporation of the water to take longer?
Also how do you explain the muffle sizes being too small to put in more than two adult bodies at a time, when the supposed eye witnesses claim they crammed 4 or 5 at once?

>>127826132
>wew lad, it's almost like cremation time doesn't linearly increase with weight. So if Mattogno calculates it takes 1 hour to cremate 1 body in 1 oven muffle, if you put in an additional body of the same size and weight, maybe it doesn't take 2 hours for the muffle contents to cremate now after all???
Not proportionally. I just posted something below ridiculing the infantile point of uniform rate expectation. If I have an oven and I put one turkey in (takes 1 hour to cook), I ought not expect that putting another turkey in will still take just one hour to cook. That isn't how it works. It is dependent on certain factors, like the composition of the unit, surface area, efficiency of the oven, etc. that all affect the overall rate.
>>127826202
"Zyklon holes". Lol, nice a priori judgement. The holes exist because they were used for Zyklon mass gassings. Post hoc "arguments" aren't very logical, anon. Try a little harder. Maybe investigating the assertion and uncovering those who died to see if there are millions of victims of gassings (dead from HCN)? Oh wait, the evidence is all gone. Well, we've got people who say it happened. That's all the evidence we need!

>>127813600
Idi u tri picke materine. wtf are you on about fellow landsman? i expected better of you

>>127826202
it's a shame hitler never succeeded

>>127813600
Why should we believe jewish lies? Where is da proofs?

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>>127826147

>when cyanide causes the flesh to turn red, not blue

This is an unsubstantiated claim made famous by denier Fritz Berg. What Fritz Berg does not tell you, is that this blue discoloration:

1) doesn't always appear (only 66% of the time)
2) is likelier to appear on well nourished (read: fat) corpses than on malnourished ones, like the one displayed on his site (a fat american lady corpse)
and most importantly:
3) doesn't appear immediately upon death, but sets in after more than an hour, by which time the body would already be in the oven

>>127813600
Note they still have their hair.
There's a reason they shaved the prisoners...

>>127813786
fpbp

>>127813600
Pictures of dead people isn't proof of the holocaust, it's only proof people died or were potentially killed. The holocaust implies a whole lot more than that - it's an extraordinary claim.

Jews were no doubt killed but I refuse to call it the holocaust. That's my position and I'll stick to it because I'm not Jewish and won't buy in to their religious ritualisation.

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>>127826389

did the eye witnesses claim 4 to 5 ADULT corpses at one time per muffle?

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/138/reece.JPG

>>127817565
stop using a vpn JIDF

>>127813600
If you're reffering to that picture as "proof" consider the following
>Soviets loved ethnic cleansing
>Their troops were instructed to carry german uniforms and discredit germans whenever they can
>Man in the picture doesnt have the eagle on the hat
>No rank
>No belt
>Its a russian in german uniform, behind soviet victims
Go fuck yourself you stupid cunt

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>>127825053
They had the bones crushed and usually burned outside I hate Jews but I find it hard that you don't believe that mountains of evidence for this period of time

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the "holocaust" was when the jews have dumbed down the german population with their communism so badly that people were starving to death because nobody knew how to do anything anymore,so a cleanup crew was needed that got rid of the jews and the dead bodies that their communism caused...

and it will happen again because most people are not capable of rational thought, and think it is so loving to destroy themselves to look morally superior in their heads LOL

common sense vs communism

>>127825909
>implying Nazis weren't smart enough to have classified information, blackbook budgets, and abilities to give instructions to others without the entire world knowing

Except there's documents from Nazis stating some of these things, along with witness testimony from plenty of nazi officials.

Also, why is it that every Nazi thinks it's impossible to kill that many people in the time frame of the war? Have you guys not heard of the Mongols? Or is that just 'fake news' from (((((((them)))))))) thing?

Cause they kind of perfected the whole mass killing thing a few centuries beforehand.

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Yes goys remember that you need to turn over all wealth and authority to us for things that people did 80 years ago.

Shhhhh, don't think. Just give us shekels and let us lead your media, banks, and government. Shhh goy, don't think.

abandon thread peops, it is slide/bait

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>>127813600
Oy vey!

>>127813600
are you the same faggot that believes in

>Sandyhook

>>127826360
the creamtories a auschwitz had a capacity well above 400....it does not take as much coke to burn bodys in continous operation as you think it does

>>127826411

>Not proportionally. I just posted something below ridiculing the infantile point of uniform rate expectation. If I have an oven and I put one turkey in (takes 1 hour to cook), I ought not expect that putting another turkey in will still take just one hour to cook. That isn't how it works. It is dependent on certain factors, like the composition of the unit, surface area, efficiency of the oven, etc. that all affect the overall rate.

Sure. But lets say instead of it taking 2 hours to cook now, it takes 1.5 hours.

Still, you have 2 turkeys done in 1.5 hours, and a stupid way of saying this would be 1.5 hours divided by 2 turkeys, therefore 1 turkey in 45 minutes. Kinda false, and yet kinda true. That's how you get the 15 mins figures from certain witnesses. It doesnt mean 1 corpse was done cremating in 15 mins, it means when they opened the muffle, the 3 or 4 corpses were done and then they just divided the total time taken by the amount of corpses.

>>127826627
>Goebbels diary is substantive proof exhuming the deceased and conducting investigations to prove they were executing by 'x'
For a lot who claims to love evidence, your assertions sure are unfalsifiable.
>super duper official documents
>except Hitler issued no such order for mass gassings
>orders exist for deportation, but that's just code for genocide
>we know this because he said so verbally
>yeah, but no documents of it exist anyways

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Wow you totally convinced me with that compelling argument, (((legit Balkan intellectual free thinker))).

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>>127826449
>cyanide causes the body to turn blue

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Ajde čkomi proxy govno jedno.

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Why did Hitler hate jews? Rabbi Yosef Tzvi ben Porat will explain to you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo&t=4s

>>127825328
>It's almost like they had a rough estimate of how many Jewish people lived in a geographical area!
Funny how they applied that rough estimate (more often than not) no matter what part of the world they were talking about.
Funny how the Jews actually have a religious prophecy where 6 million Jews are supposed to "vanish" before they return to Israel.

Apparently, anywhere you went in early 20th century Europe and Russia, there were 6 million Jews all over the place. 6 million here, 6 million there, another 6 million down the road. 6 million jews everywhere at once. Ok pal.

>>127818462
Even easier than that mate, just wait 3 days without rain, everyone in the enclosure is pretty much dead.
Viola, problem solved.

>>127822962
I've scrolled through your posts and you sound like a ranting lunatic. Calm down and have a discussion if you want one. Don't spaz out then claim you were trying to have one.

>>127826889
>Sure. But lets say instead of it taking 2 hours to cook now, it takes 1.5 hours.
Test the variables and observe the conclusion. Just "1.5 hours" is not actually proven.
>Still, you have 2 turkeys done in 1.5 hours, and a stupid way of saying this would be 1.5 hours divided by 2 turkeys, therefore 1 turkey in 45 minutes. Kinda false, and yet kinda true.
Relying on 1.5 hours being solid, yes. The rate would be 45 per Turkey. Yet you just defied the laws of thermodynamics. So adding onto the workload of the oven makes it more efficient. I stated in the example that it takes 1 hour to cook the turkey. Adding more turkeys increases the rate. You just made the oven 33% more efficient. By decreasing surface area. And changing no other factors. So let's extend this to a toaster. 1 minute to toast one slice of bread. Put two slices in the same toaster and it takes 30 seconds. 4 slices makes it 15. This is why it is feasibly impossible.
Ask yourself the following: what will take longer to reduce to ash. One large piece of firewood on one fire, or cutting the firewood up into kindling and distributing each piece among multiple flames?
Use that logic and extend it to the oven.

>>127823411
Can someone explain this document please?

>>127827016

asphyxiation causes the body to turn blue.

>he hasn't heard about cyanosis
>nobody asphyxiated in the gas chambers

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