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Syria General /sg/ - Good Morning Syria Edition

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Everything you need to know
https://syriagenerals.wordpress.com/
>YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSelGrgxKyKFrugrfns3FBA/

>SOUTHFRONT May26
https://youtu.be/_1hcOcqgzFw

>Newest Interviews with Assad
https://youtu.be/arHsOcXeN2Q
https://youtu.be/L5W2obVY2pE

PERMANENT MAPS
>Livemap
https://globaleventmap.org
>hohol livemap
http://syria.liveuamap.com/
>Military map
http://militarymaps.info/
>Syria conflict map
http://www.cartercenter.org/syria-conflict-map/

>Fan maps
https://twitter.com/PetoLucem
https://twitter.com/miladvisor
https://twitter.com/a7_mirza
https://twitter.com/hamza_780
http://www.edmaps.com
http://www.syriancivilwarmap.com

RECENT MAPS
>E Aleppo May27
https://i.imgur.com/g9acp4w.jpg
>E Homs May27
https://i.imgur.com/zjbj73H.jpg
>Raqqa May25
https://i.imgur.com/c4f4JDD.jpg
>E Qalamoun May26
http://i.imgur.com/jUTtMtn.jpg
>Mosul May24
http://i.imgur.com/6wJbl5F.jpg
>S Syria May20
http://i.imgur.com/bvC40OA.jpg
>N Hama May7
http://i.imgur.com/7IffA69.jpg
>DeZ Apr26
https://i.imgur.com/chtD31T.jpg

Developments May 26
>E. QALAMOUN: SAA capture the Abandoned Missile Battalion base +weapons, munitions and bombs from IS
>DeZ: huge IS assault stopped by SAA, RU cargo planes droped supplies
>E. Aleppo:3 km to Maskanah town, reports of jihadists retreating from town
>reports: YPG shelled a Turkish army base near Afrin
>SDF repels IS counterattack near Maisalun village-10km N. Raqqa
>roads between Damascus-Palmyra reopened
>SyAF eliminates IS convoy that left Qalamoun Mountains en route to Raqqa
>SDF captured north part of Baath dam
>SDF: amnesty for militants linked to IS if they surrender before May 31st
>PMU liberates Sinjar military base
>Philip:46 dead,31 terrorists,15 security member,army troops, special forces, attack helicopters and armoured vehicles deployed
>Yemeni forces conduct new raid on Saudi territory

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First for Assad
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>>127405578
2nd for mommy
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3rd for Primorsky Krai
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>>127405704
Beat me to it
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>tfw type in 'Syrian Morning' in Jewgle
>pulls up mourning people
>tfw Jewgle thinks we spell mourning without the 'u'
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XtdsYtgtC8
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Slow bread, time to dump Slavic Grills folder
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>>127406237
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Death to saxons, chinks, communists, kurds, sunni jihadists and Republican separatists.
And a curse on the Jews, America, Bajorans and klingon ridgeheads
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>>127406237
Should I dump the Mommy Folder? Is /sg/ ready?
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الاسد او حرب عالمية ثالثة
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>>127406399
Please god no.
I'm here for Syria
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>>127406274
how can IDF roasties even compare?
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sauce in filename
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>>127406283
>republican separatists
the main problem with repub sepratists is that its being pushed and shilled by socialist alliance (neo-trotskies) and the greens (A.K.A reformed C.P.A) luckily everyone i know is wised up that a yes vote would mean a big boost in support for these retards
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>>127406543
They can't, that's why they want Iran gone
>That's right, Israel started this shit with Iran because they are insecure about their women
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>>127406543
> shah flag
Shes not one of the good guys Joao.
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>>127406399
Yes. We waited all of last thread FFS
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More foreign rebels with the YPG/PKK terrorists :
> SDF foreign rebel from Ukraine participating in Syria.

Fucker has his country divided and has time to spare to fight for this kurdish fairytale.
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...Sauce?
>Ethnicity at least?
>So I know which folder to put her in
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>>127406524
this thread is going nowhere anyways and a bunch of people requested it last thread. What do you want to talk about specifically?
>>127406953
hold your horses, i'll be right back
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>>127407692
>>127407369
Got more?
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>tfw bread is so slow, it has become a grills dump bread
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Can you anons post girls in /b/ or some other thread?
This isnt related to /sg/
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>>127407876
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>>127406852
Oh well no one is perfect, i could redpill her.
Also my name is Tiago, Not João, Not Alberto.
Im so fucking high its not even funny :(
Cant go to bed cause i wont sleep and i have to take my doggo out. Hes ready to go meet some ladies
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>>127406524
Same here.
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>>127407996
it usually dies of around 2pm AUS time then picks up around 6-8 AUS time not sure what time that is for you
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>>127408163
its midnight here in texas.
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>>127408100
Nice to meet you high Tiago. Its best to be careful from Iranians that outwardly support the shah, many are messed up, some are very pro-Zionist and jews. Iran really cleaned their garbage in 1979.
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>>127408163
So it picks up at 4AM CST
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Dumping Latin Grills folder
>tfw it's tiny
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This isnt /sg/ well done fuckers for ruining it.
Israelis shitpost in the morning, and its flooded with fags that use this as /b/ at night.
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>>127408474
sauce? whats her name?
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>>127408394
latin girls are overrated. Slavic Women are the female master race desu
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>>127408276
Is this what Russians think native Americans look like?
>cultural appropriation much?!
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>>127408592
well its like midnight in america so shit slows down itll pick up in 4-5 hours or so
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>>127408336
>some are very pro-Zionist
That's a deal breaker for me :(
I like you anti-kurd arab nationalist bong, don't let morons get to you. :)
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>>127408592
Well there's no happenings until a few hours later, so what are we supposed to do?
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>>127408723
I'm always kinda paranoid about posting pic like this
>don't wanna get banned
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>>127408592
why are you so anngry?
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>>127408625
Ukrainian m8s.
The name i was able to ascertain is Ninel Blagorodnykh
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>>127408723
Thanks mate, youre cool too Tiago, youre one of the ultimate redpill folks here. There is another Portugese guy that posts here sometimes, but generally in the afternoon.
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>>127408723
are you the same anon who requested a dump last bread?
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...should I post more?
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>>127409154
I ain't adding without face
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>>127408023
I agree. lets talk about syria. whats new bong? what are you here to discuss?
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>>127409327
>porn
You're gonna get warned/b@ mate
>tfw I got warned few days ago for posting absolutely haram THICC arab grill
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so... this is what happens when the days are slow here
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>>127409447
And she was only showing butt
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>>127409447
>>127409493
but dem titties tho
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>>127409490
You have 4 options

1) Enjoy it/contribute
2) Get out
3) Lurk Moar
4) Post *new* news about Syria
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>>127409493
I have a feeling youre a psyop and not the original Ebin Shitposter. Ebin Shitpister was always talking about Syria. Are you trying to get him banned or have everyone filter him?
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>>127409620
ik, good titties. Just had to warn you.
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>>127409635
but I don't see any news...
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>>127409712
You got me, I'm schlomo shekelberg posing as Ebin Shitposter from American proxy

>Captcha: salem dismount
JEJ, we witch hunt now!
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>>127409490
/sg/ has really gone downhill the past month. More shills these days, same people that shill for Trump now shill for Israel and the kurds.
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>>127408815
The state im in i dont even care.
>>127408971
Yeah thats the dima portuguese hes alright too :)
>>127409026
yeah it was me but i guess theres enough girls in this thread, post it next time im around :)
Have to go now my doggo wont let me be hehhee

God bless everyone that likes Assad! peace brothers
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Heading to bed now
>Stay comfy
>Keep posting QTs
>Ignore the bad shills
Have a QT on me!
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>>127409918
I don't get it... why shill for jew ownership of rightful christian land?
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From Press TV:
> Two Iranian border guards have been killed in clasheswith PKK terrorists in the country’s northwest
>PKK randomly carries out hit-and-run attacks on Iranian targets, after which they retreat to their lairs in Iraq and Turkey.
> Earlier this month, Iran said it welcomedTurkey's plan to build a 144-kilometer wall along itsborder.Ankara says the wall is aimed at haltingthe movement of PKKmilitants who are based in Iraq’s Qandil mountains bordering Iran and Turkey.
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>>127410155
I dont recognise Israel, im Chrisrian Arab, although I think Occupied Palestine belongs to the Palestinians alone (both Christians and Muslims of them).
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>>127410373
No I only mean Jerusalem itself
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>>127410155
i believe that its 10% legitamate shill 90% people being ironic and larping as shills
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>>127410442
it's obvious Israel flag first poster guy is a LARPer
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>>127410499
yeah thats obvious along with S.A and mahgrabi its obvious there just taking the piss at this point
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>>127406852
This. Fuck Iran, can't wait until the day the Israeli flag flies freely in Tehran.
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Interesting whats going on with Qatar, Saudi and UAE (im sure Trump and Israel are involved)
> Saudi and UAE make up stories about Qatar (praising Iran, Hez, Hamas and Israel).
> qatar denies
> Saudi and UAE continue fake stories of Qatar kicking out their ambassadors
> Qatar gets pissed and their emir calls Rouhani and tells him they want to build stronger ties.

Qatar-Turkey are fully Muslim Brotherhood, if this will push them to end support to their proxies in Syria this is good news.
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>>127410430
Jerusalem (al-quds) is for both Christians and Muslims.
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>>127410640
You didnt understand what I meant. Im saying the good flag is the post 1979 one not the good goy shah one.
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>>127410632
S.A told me earlier Rhodesia lost because it was "only whites" trying to fight of "millions" of blacks lol
he doesn't know that all the blacks who fucked up Rhodesia and are fucking up S.A are immigrant blacks from other parts of Africa and the actual Southern Blacks were actually fine being second class in a prosperous country
>>127410817
I will burn you at the stake like a witch or homosexual if you don't stop this blasphemy :^)
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>>127410817
I just hope one day the Christians, the Muslims, the Hindus, the Sikhs, the Confucians, the Taoists, the Shinto, everybody can all come together as one united brotherhood of peace and friendship and finally kill the Jews once and for all.
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>>127410240
This is a saudi response o unrest in shiite areas of saudi the past few weeks. I'd bet anything that Iran is gonna fall apart along ethnic lines very soon. Persians, Arabs,Turkmens,Azeris, Baluchis, Kurds. are all sizable ethnic groups in Iran, expect the ((freedom agenda)) to spread there very soon, Iran is going to be torn apart along ethnic lines
>>127410632
lol yesterday some SA flag was saying " im secretly with Assad etc." kinda funny
>>127410640
Why specifically Iran?
>>127410373
Lets be honest, Jerusalem should just be declared an International city for all faiths and just make it a site of pilgrimage under UN management from different countries. it shouldnt belong to one state or religion. But we all know no one would agree to that
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>>127410961
I wish the jews weren't selfish snakes
we could accomplish so much together but they chose to be manipulative demons
they must die
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>>127410920
Oh. Well I fucked that up, then.

Still, shah was better than commies having it. Power rankings are as follows:
Independent nationalist > independent islamist > puppet nationalist > independent communist > puppet islamist > puppet communist

Shah > Mossadegh
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>>127410947
What blasphemy? Christians and Muslims lived in peace in Palestine and al-quds before the European Zionists came and messed up things.
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>>127411201
yes but muh crusades...
ehh Constantinople should definitely be christian though
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>>127411190
I say this as a non-Muslim:
Khomeni > shah

>>127411089
Christians lived well with the Muslims in Palestine, we should just get the European Zionists out and everything will be OK.
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>>127411089
>tfw remembering when commies raped the tssr's children infront of him and his wife
Sad!
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>>127411312
> ehh Constantinople should definitely be christian though
Definitely - Hagia Sofia should return to Christians, ive heard many Muslims call for that too (like Sheikh Imran Hossein). It shouldnt be a mosque.
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>>127411422
True, Khomeni > shah, but Khomeni > shah > Mossadegh

Had America and BP not installed the Shah it would become an africa tier commie shithole, like Zimbabwe.
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>>127411190
whats assads power level under that chain of succesion?

hes defiantly idependent but also a socialist is he right between independent islamist and puppet nationalist in power level?
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>>127411516
it isn't a true mosque if not built with Muslim hands anyway
I want my holy city
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>>127411539
Independent nationalist. Socialism isn't communism, for example we have the NHS but we're not communist.
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>>127411539
Assad is still an Arab Baathist, we cant see him as anything else.
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>>127407388
>roachouflage
>that hat

I give him a week tops, God preserve me... not dressing like the bad guy is rule one of not getting greased by your own guys.
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>>127411685
yeah i guess
>>127411713
yeah but we shouldnt just ignore the socialist elements of baathism and assad political alliance (not to say i have anything against normal socialism) but we need to dispel the lefts "violent right wing dictator" narrative
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>>127411190
where would Vietnam fall in the Vietnam war?
they weren't even "not really communist" but just labeled as such because china ally
puppet nationalist?
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>>127411718
Most of the kurdish mens camos are stolen from turkish soldiers, theyre basically gypsies.
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>>127411853
That's just the middle east scale, Vietnam was definstely based to resist invasion though.
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>>127411848
Of course, from a Western perspective baathism has socialist elements to it (its clearly left wing), but I dont think anything exists in the west right now that is close to Arab Baathism at any leading parties?

There isnt much of a difference between all the pan-arabism movements, by it the Iraqi baathist movement (in the beginning), Syrian baathist party and Nasserism.
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>>127411428
Very Sad!
>>127411422
Jews were also living in Jerusalem for centuries before Israel existed, they also have some right to it
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>>127412098
I said European Zionists, theyre fake jews. Some jews lived there before that and have nothing to do with Israel. Those that came later should just go back to Europe, they have no connection to the Arab World and have caused enough damage.
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>>127412096
at the end of the day id be completly fine with a middle east ran under baathism/nasserism (maybe even like commie block style shit in afganistan)

i just pisses me off that we have desroyed 2 (iraq 2000s democratic republic of afganistan 1980s) and are attemping to destroy a third secular state in this theocratic shithole
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>>127412098
Many such cases!
>>127412096
Socialism isn't a pejorative, it's just that leftists co-opted it. The difference between "socialist" countries like, for example, Gaddafi's Libya is he re-invested the oil money wisely and made life better for the Libyan people, "communist" countries like Zimbabwe simply took the farms from white people and made no attempt to educate black farmers because fuck whitey lol.
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>>127407687

Caucasian. T*rks are genetically the most similar to Armenians, Georgians, Circassians etc.
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>>127412561
True, baathism seems to be what Arabs go to when the West leaves them alone. Notice how all religious islamic movements have only come out from direct US/Israeli involvement. Afghanistan produced Alqaeda, removing Saddam made ISIS terrorists and so on. Under Saddam the Iraqis didnt have freedom of speech, but they had really good healthcare, safety, education and infrastructure. Same goes for Libya and Syria pre-war. Assad got away because he prepared himself. Even the moderate dictators the West place like Sisi are just US puppets that will do anything for money (be it saudi or from others).
>>127412566
Yeah youre right, not all forms of it are bad. From a Western perspective, Assad is definitely not neoliberal and is a socialist (with a pan-Arab nationalism).
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>>127412253
Your plan is too late and unrealistic at this point. It was only an option early on in Israels history. Where would these Jews who live there now go? The Arabs had between 1948-1967 to prepare and since then the balance of power shifted to Israels side for decades while they made nukes. Now the balance of power is not as much in favor of Israel as it once was, since guerrila warfare is its weakness, but no one in the region has the power to kick them out completely. Israel is in the rgion to stay, Palestinians only hope is demographics changing within Israel at this point and changing the actual state's character from jewish to non-jewish. But we all know somewhere down the line the Israelis will solve this demographics problem like they always do, while the whole world backs them in their "right to self-defence" by evicting others out of their land and massacring them
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>>127411901
Lot's of digi greens too.

Off for my Sunday morning drive, streching the 370z's legs. See you fags later.
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>>127413048

That's not true. Ba'athism is pushed on Arabs by their elites; most Arabs simply want Islamist governments, which is exactly why they shouldn't be allowed to elect their governments.
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Hope someone who has been keeping up with the latest developments can answer this question: Whatever happened to al-Nusra? II know they changed their name a couple times as allegiances changed but they seem to largely be out missing from recent reports. My impression was that they were kind of a wildcard. Did they get absorbed into the 'FSA?'
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>>127413150
> Where would these Jews who live there now go?
Just like they came they can leave. You keep calling them jews, I can them European Zionists and fake jews. Plenty of other regions in the world that would kiss their asses.
I see Israel right now as the weakest its ever been, it hasnt won a single war since 2000. All they can do is fight in proxy and a war against Iran can end them (might end Iran in the process but I think they wont care as its for a bigger cause to them).
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>>127413048
whenever i talk to a burger about them funding the taliban they say something like this "muh we needed o liberae muh afgans from dem commies"

then i inform them that the D.R.A was secular (and also tell them how iraq was secular)

its really fun to watch their minds snap and them sperg out when they realize what their goverment did
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>>127413331
Like when you gave Erdowan unlimited power?
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>>127413331
Arabs arent turks, despite being cousins really.
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>>127413447

Yeah, exactly.

>>127413541

Arabs are overall even more Islamist than Turks.
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>>127413423
I wonder what the average burger thinks of them supporting commie kurds and islamists in Syria right now.
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>>127412561
this is why the key to a secular stronghold in the middle east capable of proving security over the next few centuries is

>GREATER SYRIA!!!!!!!!!
>ASSAD CONTROLS THE SPICE
>THE TRUTH MUST FLOW

>>127409827
send the hoes backEBINNNN
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>>127413611
Why can't you just be secular like Atatürk wanted? Roaches ruin everything.
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>>127413611
Cmon not a single arab country is ruled by an islamic leader right now.
Also, most arabs dont care about democracy and see it as a failed system, theyd rather be ruled by a single party system or a moderate general.
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>>127413629
>kurds
all the leftist burgers and unironic anarkiddes shill for them heavy on THEMtube JUSTbook and twatter
>islamist
most right wing burgers either deny outright or use borderline insane mental gyms to call them "moderates" or use the good old "muh greater good" or "muh lesser of two evils" or "assads muh commie"
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>>127413768
Ataturk was a cryptojew.
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>>127413831
>not a single arab country is ruled by an islamic leader right now.
Lad, what the fuck do you call Saudi?
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>>127413958
>still believing ottoman propaganda a century later
Loving every laugh, Pasha.
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>>127413981
An absolute monarchy, ruled by a royal family based on genetics and not religion. Iran is an islamic country, saudi isnt.
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>>127413417
>Just like they came they can leave. You keep calling them jews, I can them European Zionists and fake jews.
Why do you consider them fake jews? Based on what reasoning? Im using Jews and zionists interchangeably i dont feel like typing zionists every few words, but the vast majority of jews are zionists, even the supposedly liberal jews

>Plenty of other regions in the world that would kiss their asses.
thats a very superficial analysis of the situation. Its like saying why dont the palestinians go to saudi arabia with the other sunnis? why dont the Arab shias all go live in Iran then? Its not a very realistic solution
>I see Israel right now as the weakest its ever
been, it hasnt won a single war since 2000.
They still have unconditional USA backing, total war with them is total war with USA
>All they can do is fight in proxy and a war against Iran can end them (might end Iran in the process but I think they wont care as its for a bigger cause to them).
Irans whole recent history has been proxy wars as well. They may very well have the firepower to destroy Israel, but I doubt they are as suicidal as you make them out to be, they think logically, and want self-preservation just like every regime. Anything else is just rhetoric
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>>127414137
Yes, Saudi isn't islamic at all. Not like they have Sharia or anything, completely secular.
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>>127413957
>all the leftist burgers and unironic anarkiddes shill for them heavy on THEMtube JUSTbook and twatter
They are also highly regarded by most of the right because they are 'victims' and useful as proxies.
>most right wing burgers either deny outright or use borderline insane mental gyms to call them "moderates"
Really only the talking heads have to do the gymnastics necessary to call them moderates. The rest just kind of nod their heads in agreement because that is what they are being told.
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Lolita was god tier
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>>127412098

Hebrews committed genocide on the Canaanites, Hebrews have NO right to the land.
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>>127414472
Overrated shit. Nabokov was an idiot
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>>127414337
They just do whatever suits their rulers, theyre as much islamic as the UK is Christian.
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>>127413768

Because Kamal(pbuh) made the fatal mistake of telling his successor to allow free elections after his death.

>>127413831

>Cmon not a single arab country is ruled by an islamic leader right now.

The fucking what?
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>>127414337
lol wut.......

Saudis are the source of Wahhabism/Salafist... wack asshoes
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>>127414358
saw a fox news report today
>krauthammer
>"we need to defeat the radical islamic extremism coming from the ayatollah and bashar al assads goverment

>spitoutmydrink.jpg

>"thats why im so glad trump is allying with the moderate muslims in saudia arabia quater bahrain and the U.A.E

spitoutmydrinkagain.jpg
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>>127414620
I don't think it was overrated. But then again i haven't heard much about this movie i'm just watching all of kubricks movies for fun I expected nothing and got something really good so maybe if the hype was high it would have been worse for me. Unironcially like dear whitey
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>>127414641
Kamal is a donmeh
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>>127414718
It's sarcasm, laddo, see the retard I replied to and who replied to me.
>>127414641
The military usually couped when this happened, but king roach was one step ahead and faked a coup.
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>>127414832

That's a lie made up by Islamists. He was an Albanian.
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>>127414718
hes probably shia and suggesting that none of the sunni nations are under actual islamic rule
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>>127414718
They fund these terrorists in the same way Qatar, UAE and the US do so, that doesnt make them Islamic.
Saudis are garbage dictators, nothing really islamic about them, they just use it to oppress the people and control them.
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>>127414968
That's even worse!
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>>127414957 no response to >>127414265 ?
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>>127414993
Im a Christian Arab, just calling things the way they are, youd be laughed at if you call saudi islamic in the Arab World.
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>>127414765
Yes, we like to call Iran the largest sponsor of terrorism and equate Hezbollah with suicide bombers and peace-truck drivers.
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>>127414957
ah oky.. I'm trying to reply inbetween overwatch matches lolllll
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>>127414968
> implying there are no albanian jews.
Cmon, Ataturk ruined your country.
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>>127414957

That's a myth, don't buy W*stern propaganda. The coup was genuine, and attempted by people who differ from Erdoğan only in the way they are allied to the West. Also the coup that happened at 1980 was what gave Islamists political representation and power. The only good coup was the one that happened in 1960, which had its anniversary yesterday.

Pic related. Islamist W*stern puppet got what he deserved.
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>>127414796
>all of kubricks movies
Watched them. Strange feeling.
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>>127415177
Don't know how to tell you this, lad, but that isn't me. I'm KYqRq1zm and he's Kjbi9+89.
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>>127405796
Aww shiet, someone remember me!
>>127405704
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>>127406399
>>127407823
>>127408656
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>>127412098
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJLOdTpcWBk
Here some video for you, just drop your shilling, pls.
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>>127415326
I'm moving on to paths of glory next. Expecting good things. All the movies i've seen so far have been bretty gud.
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>>127415238
why do people defend fox news with empty platitudes like "muh based tucker" and "muh based hannity" (both of which are just corporate shills one for the slightly younger neo-con crowd and one for the boomers) cant ANYONE with an iq over 70 realize how shit hey are?
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>>127415368 lol my bad is 2.30 i should go to sleep


>>127415177 meant for >>127415230
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>>127415135

Albanians are weird; some are genuinely weird people while some are outright subhuman.

>>127415300

There is absolutely no reason for us to believe that he was Jewish.

Can you explain how he ruined my country? It used to be an impoverished Islamic monarchy where most of the population lived in the Bronze Age, on its way to get colonized.
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>>127415311
Lad, they had military jets following his private plane. If the coup was genuine they'd have either shot it down or diverted it to a rebel base, and if it refused then they'd still have shot it down.
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>>127415311
One of the things I Iike about Erdogan is that he speaks Arabic and wants to bring Turkey closer to the arab world. I cant stand turks that want to be Europeans, youre just cousins to the Arabs. What Ataturk did was make turks something theyre not.
Arabs and turks have two common enemies : Israel and the kurds. They should work together instead of against each other like in Syria.
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>>127415566
Yeah, the christian ones are based whilst the muslim ones are subhuman. ;-DD
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>>127415422
such a cute video!
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>>127415311
I find it disgusting when a coup or revolution executes the prior leader after he has been arrested or surrendered. Unless he has committed gross atrocities, they shouldnt execute the prior leader.
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>>127415487
The decision makers are either jews or christians who believe that jews can do no wrong because they are the Chosen People, so what is good for Israel is good for the US.
A good portion of the population older than 30 was mentally scarred by 9/11, and that combined with our general ignorance on world affairs makes for a pretty pathetic combination.
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>>127415566
Bannerlord when, kurwa?
>>127411428
They deserved this by torturing russian people with their political actions. What commies did is killing all direct descendants of the ruling emperor, to be sure that the monarchy will never return.
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>>127415566

>some are genuinely weird people

decent* people

>>127415575

His jet was made to appear like a regular civilian airliner, and constantly circled around to prevent the jets from correctly identifying it.

>>127415680

>One of the things I Iike about Erdogan is that he speaks Arabic and wants to bring Turkey closer to the arab world.

You have huge delusions about Erdoğan. He wants Turkey to get closer to the rest of the Sunni Islamic world in general; that includes Kurds, Paks, Indonesians, anyone really.

>I cant stand turks that want to be Europeans, youre just cousins to the Arabs. What Ataturk did was make turks something theyre not.

Turkey is a culturally very diverse place. The people around the Aegean coast are culturally very close to Greeks, the ones in Eastern Thrace to Balkan Slavs, and so on. It is true that most of the Turkish population are culturally and ideologically close to the Arabs of the Levant and Iraq; however, Turkey has its fair share of culturally Western people. These people do not suffer from cultural cringe but are genuinely overall Westernized people. We have been around since forever, and formed the elite of the Ottoman Empire for most of its existance. Kamal was a part of the Westernized portion of Ottoman Muslims, and tried to make the rest of the country resemble the elite class. It was obviously a huge failure.

>>127415703

No, I mean Albanians in general.
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>>127416302
And that required them to rape the Tsar's kids?
Didn't even work, monarchies ALWAYS have some sort of pretender, that's the entire point.
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>the current state of /tv/
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>>127416302
>Bannerlord when
NEVER EVER
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>>127416387
What's happening?
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Hello my friends, how are you all doing on the beginning of the 2nd day of Ramadan?
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>>127415680
how do people believe that we are cousins to arabs?
we share the same religion which was forced on us by arabs by pillaging and killing innocent, and that's it. culturally we are not even close
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>>127416387
i dont browse /tv/ whats going on?
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>>127416677
Trying to find the non halal sausage rolls in greggs, you?
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>>127416328
> These people do not suffer from cultural cringe but are genuinely overall Westernized people.
Trust me man, I want the best for Turkey- but Western Europe will never accept you. The arabs look at Turkey with respect, while the West looks at Turkey as even lower than Eastern Europe. No matter what the westernised turks do, people in the West wont respect them and its cringey.
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>>127416677
Enjoying some haram goodies like a beer and a cigarette. How do you feel about our leaders' new bromance?
Just tone done all that allah shit and we'll be good.
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>>127416490
>>127416783
just go look you fags.
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>>127416783
Porn, scat and cuck threads are the new rage there it seems.
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>>127416704
> culturally we are not even close
Kek. Genetically you are. Also, youre delusional if you dont see the similarities between you and the arabs in food, culture and language, and vice versa.
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>>127416922
>>127416900
so Australian shitposters like to watch tv?
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>>127416381
>And that required them to rape the Tsar's kids?
How do you know were they raped or not? And like its makes any sense because they were killed after that.
>that's the entire point
Not really. They maybe pretenders, but have no right to rule by russian imperial laws.
For now, you had to call for national assembly to elect a new emperor.
But now no one will allow this shit to happen.
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>>127416156

Why? What are you some faggot? That guy took a huge shit on Kamal's reforms and whored our country to foreigners. He got what he deserved.

>>127416302

Really find M&B overall boring.

>>127416704

Delusions. Turks are culturally pretty similar to the Arabs of the Levant and Iraq. Half of Turkish is Arabic for fuck's sake.

>>127416859

Nobody here wants the respect of the West. Most Kamalist officers here who got purged by Erdoğan and Gülen were Eurasianists.

If anything I think secular Turks should ally themselves with Balkanians, Armenians, Christian Arabs.
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>>127416805
Trying to see how and where I can get some cigarettes... smoking ban here as of last year and I'll get lashed if I smoke during Ramadan
>>127416865
>How do you feel about our leaders' new bromance?
I don't like :(
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>>127417277
how does it feel to know your king may actually be ethnically jewish?
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>>127417225
> If anything I think secular Turks should ally themselves with Balkanians, Armenians, Christian Arabs.
True - But not only Christian arabs, I think they should ally with secular arabs in general instead of Western liberals that push degeneracy on Turkey. Imagine if secular turks ally with Assad and other moderate secular arabs that arent pro-Western.
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>>127417398
Dont get the poor guy in jail. Thats how people disappear in Saudi.
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>>127417398
I've been seeing this said a lot recently, where can I read more about how House of Saud are crypto-kikes?
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>>127417277
they'd kill your ass for browsing this degenerate website and you worry about lashing? arab priorities, what are they?
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>>127417277
Do you have a wife? Do you have several?
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>>127417277
>I don't like :(
Honestly curious why not?
I have a feeling this Super Sekrit Anti-Terror HQ is a big dog and pony show, but otherwise seems to be mostly business as usual with the arms deals, and may have been a signal to Israel that he is serious about a peace deal with Palestinians.
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>>127417602
Back to /ptg/, laddo.
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>>127417452

Sure, that would be nice.
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>>127417507
Think about it logically - how can a family appear out of nowhere with the English and have no traces in arabia? The same goes for the Bahraini and Kuwaiti royal families. Apart from the Qatari and Omani ruler, no one knows where these people came from - so either theyre iranians, or jews.
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>>127417546
I don't think King Salman's children are good with the cyber like Barron Trump is so I'm not scared of being killed for browsing this basketweaving imageboard
>>127417573
I'm not married and I told my family not to arrange anything until I finish my studies
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>>127417754 answer me >>127414265
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>>127417602
you have to go back
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>>127417507
What's your countries opinion/knowledge of T. E. Lawrence, a.k.a Lawrence of Arabia? Is he considered a founding father?
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>>127417507
dont have any infographics or anything but there was some frenchy who posted some imfo (mostly interviews with french diplomats from the inter war period and ww1 discussing how the saudis were quite "friendly with jewish traders" and would have long conversations with them

essentially it boils down to the fact the house of saud just appeared out of the blue on day handpicked to be rulers for life by the allies after ww1

the sauds lived nowhere near saudi arabia apparently (according to frenchi) could speak english better then arabic and the same goes for all these "arab royal familes" they all just appeared hand picked afer ww1
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>>127417719
Fuck off, I am asking for his opinion and sharing mine as well. Not trying to push anything or say your opinions are incorrect.
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>>127417602
It's annoying how every single time the west comes to Saudi Arabia, the retarded government puts on a show
>Hey look, we purchased these hip twitter hashtags condemning terrorism! But we're still gonna sanction killing Shia Muslims/fund Wahhabi mosques and we're gonna bomb the shit outta Yemeni civilians with these nice new weapons

These arms deals don't benefit me nor normal Saudi citizens so I've got nothing to approve of or be happy for
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>>127417961

Tough love is how people get redpilled on /pol/. Soon you will abandon Bruglmpf.
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>>127418048
If I was a Muslim I'd support Wahabbism, solely because I tend to take my ideological leanings to their furthest possible extent.

To be honest, I think your life where you can ring a bell and get a wife is better than ours where no girl under 35 wants to settle down.
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>>127418048
why do you still even have a monarchy dosen literally EVERYBODY hate them? except for the outright brainwashed


>goverment puts on a show
ive never seen pictures or video of Riyadh i have to assume at this point that the sauds for whatever reason really dont want people to see what their country looks like with all there crappy moral laws like waching the news or reading articles they NEVER show pictures of the middle class areas of Riyadh
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>>127418246
there are plenty who will settle down
it's called, not dating fucking sluts
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>>127407996
It dies when i wake up and picks up when i am about to sleep
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>>127418048
جوبز جوبز جوبز ياحبيبي
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>>127418246
>If I was a Muslim I'd support Wahabbism
Well if you were a Sunni Muslim and a male you would...

>To be honest, I think your life where you can ring a bell and get a wife is better than ours where no girl under 35 wants to settle down.
Feminism was a mistake lol
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>>127418365
There literally aren't, anon. Maybe in some Mormon or Amish communities, but not generally.
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>>127416328
How could he disguise his plane? Were the people doing the coup idiots? How would they not know how to find his plane?
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>>127418048
why dont you overthrow the saudis? Dont you feel humiliated that one clan has claime dthe whole penninsula, the whole sacred land of Hejaz for itself? are the other tribes all dead or do they not have honor that they allow one family to be kings and have all the money and power? Where is their self-respect?
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>>127408656

I hope one day I can have a mummy like this
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>>127418116
Nothing to abandon, I am able to objectively look at an event and draw conclusions as well as questions from it.
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>>127418246

You don't "ring a bell and get a wife" you moron, you get arranged marriages. The sort of wife you would get in a Wahhabi society depends entirely on your social status, and since you are a NEET 4channer you would probably end up marrying some toothless, balding girl.
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>>127416859
>arabs look at Turkey with respect
You retarded bro? As an Arab I am telling you, Arabs fucking despise Turks. Turks are better off as European. Or just split the country into East and West.
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>>127418488
>>127418347
There is no way to get rid of these monarchs; they're almost unanimously supported by strong western governments because it's lucrative. Also, nobody wants to speak out first because they fear what happens. The only way that would ever happen would be an Iranian Revolution type situation where there's momentous public support of some strong figure that causes the government become so weak that allies abandon it
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>>127418246
>no girl under 35 wants to settle down
If you stop dating sluts and whores you will have more luck
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>>127418507
hands off, shes mine
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>>127417225
>If anything I think secular Turks should ally themselves with Balkanians, Armenians, Christian Arabs.
This is smart, but why would the Balkans ally with you after you enslaved them for 5 centuries?
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>>127418048
Sometimes I just think about, why not our government nuke the entire arab peninsula?
All the dirt crawls out of this place because of the fact that a lot of money came into the hands of the infidels.
Why not wipe them off the face of the earth with their dirty deeds and oil?
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>>127418726
Lavrovposter is the wost poster desu go back to sleep
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>>127418568
Most arabs respect Turkey, they certainly dont hate them like Europe. Im of Arab origin too, ive rarely met an Arab that hates Turks, they might hate Erdogan, but not turkish people.
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>>127418347
>>127418488

How are they supposed to overthrow them with the US watching?

>>127418460

It was made to appear like a civilian airliner on radars, and he kept circling around at night.

>Were the people doing the coup idiots?

Yep. The military was purged of rather competent Kamalist officers, and filled with Gülenists, by Erdoğan. Then AKP fell out with the Gülenists.

>>127418508

You just wait. Soon you will be waiting for the day Assad fucks Ivanka in front of Gurblmdpfy.
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>>127418678
Alot of sunnis i know are getting a bit weird
One stopped listening to music and says its a pointless waste of time and is trying to make others stop as well
He stopped watching the animu as well
Should i be worried he might allah akbar
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>>127418726

You fucking should. Save the world from the mudshit Evil, based slav!
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>>127418726
Plz no bully
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>>127418678
are there like underground movements that oppose them?
communist party????
socialist party????
baathist????
S.S.N.P????

anyone????
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>>127418678
I think its quiet the opposite, the whole House of Saud is a rotten decaying structure, all the people have to do is rise up and kick in the door and the whole regime will collapse on itself.
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>>127418870
They are Sunnis, always be worried

AROUND SUNNIS, ITS USUALLY GLOOMY
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>>127418870
Obviously
>>127418862
Isn't it suspicious that a plane is circling? Or were all planes that were supposed to land in Ankara circling? And it was at night?
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>>127418870
yes thats an early warning side when a sunni goes from acing liberal to more conservative thats a sure sign of an imminent akbar

alert your local regional state or territory or federal anti terror hotline immediately
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>>127418923
political parties are haraam in saudi
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>>127418715

Because there is no place for grudges in politics, and secularist Turks don't really hold imperialist ambitions.

>>127419006

Are you Shia? How normal is life under the S*ud for you?
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>>127419095
yeah but couldnt they just operate in secret backroom kinda stuff?
>>127419006
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>>127419138
What about the EU nations Greece, Bulgaria, Romania and Croatia? Why would they ally with you? Why would someone like Serbia ally with you? It just doesn't make much sense.

Also, do you guys gave clay aspirations in Bulgaria/Greece? Or are those just memes?
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>>127418923
The Shias in the south near Yemen vigorously oppose them. There is no notable Ba'athist presence here. Hezbollah Al-Hejaz is pretty cool though.

>>127418926
Hopefully it rots and decays to such a point where it can no longer be sustained by arms and propaganda then
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>>127419146
Pretty sure thats a good way to have your head chopped
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>>127419006
Fuck man, what is living in Saudi like? No offence, but it must sucks. Islam sucks man.
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>>127419138
Yeah I'm in Najran, I'm a Zaydi. Life would suck elsewhere, but since this isn't a predominantly Wahhabist region, it's alright albeit kinda unstable cause of proximity to Yemeni War
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>>127418862
I find it interesting how, because of the /sg/ and /ptg/ enmity, it seems that you assume a burger such as myself could not support both Assad and Trump.
>Because there is no place for grudges in politics, and secularist Turks don't really hold imperialist ambitions.
Haha I lived in Frankfurt for a few years. That place is a roach colony.
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.>>127419138
>>127419267
Do you have*** not gave
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>>127418923
Best way is to send halp to Assad, so he would became stronk and spread baathist revolutions among other arabs.
Brilliant plan, told you, senpai.
>>127418818
Looks like no one here is sharing this opinion with you.
>>127418913
Too bad for you, prepare your hairy anus.
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>>127419404
Im sensing a CIA VPN LARP here
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Al-Mayadeen :
> Turkish military reports the killing of 13 PKK kurdish terrorists by airstrikes in Northern iraq.
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>>127418700
I'll fight you for this waifu.
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>>127416704
Western Turks are not Arab. But East of Istanbul it gets pretty Arab.
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>>127419479
Ive seen this story. I think he's been here before.
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>>127419070

He didn't land in Ankara, he landed in Istanbul. They made his plane appear like a civilian airliner, so the F-16s had to visually search for it. All of this happened while the putschists were not fully in control of the aviation systems on the ground, so the F-16s were flying blind in the middle of the night. After they seemed to approach Erdoğan's jet, the former retreated, circled around until they were out of fuel, and then went ahead.

>>127419267

Because why the fuck not? What kind of an idiot would refuse a friendly hand?

>Also, do you guys gave clay aspirations in Bulgaria/Greece? Or are those just memes?

Only Islamist or ultranationalist retards have those.

>>127419404

Damn. Stay safe.
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>>127412096
Can't believe that guy used to be my president
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>>127419146
This is the final ME redpill, Saudi Arabia and Iran destabilize everyone, but ehy will never dare destabilize each other, because both countries are very very very very very very (did i put enough very's) very vey vulnerable to balkanization. If Iran forments an uprising in the KSA, KSA can very easily rip apart Iran, and KSA can very easily be torn apart.

Iran have Persians,Turkmen,Kurd,Azeri,Arab, and Baluchi ethnicities, all of which have separatist movements and sentiments

KSA has restive shia and zaidi areas, but until now Iran doesnt dare arm them. Saudi army is weak on purpose because the House of Saud fear a coup. Even the way KSA was formed was through subjugating and forcing conditions on other tribes, many tribes in KSA resent the Saudi clan (who btw are only a few hundred men)

Both KSA and Iran are going to be torn apart one day.Probably very soon
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>>127419138
Only thing I worry about from some secular turks is they want to be friendly with Israel and recognise them. Of course not all are like that, but this issue is a crucial one for all arabs (secular, christian and Islamic).
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>>127419631
I dont think mummy would want us tto fight, lets just share our love and adoration of her
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>>127419671
>Islamist or ultranationalist retards
Mo offence, but is this not your entire country including Erdogan?
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>>127420064
It's called reality. 1967 happened, and it is never going back.
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>>127420050
also, there are wahhabis even more extreme and want to remove the monarchy in KSA
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>>127419902
للاسف العراق ضاع من بعد صدام والبعث
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>>127420050
Hope Saudis get torn apart ASAP.
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>>127419432

I don't know, it seems pretty fucking hard to both approve of Vrulmpbgf's attitude towards the S*udis and support Assad.

Turkish diaspora is somehow even worse than the Turks in Turkey.

>>127420050

>very very very very very very

Not true. Islamism is still strong in Iran; most people identify as Shia Muslims more than they do as members of their ethnic groups, so ethnic separatism is not a huge threat to Iran.

>>127420064

Kamalists are pretty anti-Israel and anti-West overall; social democrats are friendlier towards both. But that can be taken care of; most secularists here are willing to learn.

>>127420257

Not all of it, only the majority.
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>>127420273
Says the Trump and Assad supporter.
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>>127420050
great, only israel will remain a stable country while everyone around them keep killing each other

just perfect
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>>127420442
نعم والله صدام كان اسد العرب
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>>127419404
Stay safe lad
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>>127420593
So, if this is the case, then the answer to my question of whether you have clay aspirations in Bulgaria/Greece/other Balkan countries is ultimately: yes. Correct?
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>>127420593

Huh? You mean the Turkish government? I am talking about a fully secular state carved out of western Turkey.
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>>127420462
The only thing preventing that from happening is oil. The Saudis pay tremendously large amount of "royalty" money to other families to prevent uprisings. So it is safe to assume that they will sleep tight until there is oil and gas
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>>127420680
>that pic

What is going on there? Why the fuck is Kushner standing over there like a cuck?
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>>127420593
>Not true. Islamism is still strong in Iran
Islamism is a new conecpt in Iran. Think of their centuries before 1979, they never had Islamic theocratic rule. This current Iranian regime is an exception to Persian History, not the norm. Persians are a very secular people by nature. Remember that, your assertion that ethnicity doesnt matter is simply incorrect

>most people identify as Shia Muslims more than they do as members of their ethnic groups, so ethnic separatism is not a huge threat to Iran.

Its already started, my friend, kurds and baluchis (both are Sunni btw so your point is moot) are both waging low-intesnity war on the regime, and lately its slowly picked up the pace of attacks, just no one is realizing it because evryone is distracted with this syria stuff, iran shelled pakistan the other day because of the baluchi attacks on iranian troops there, and kurds just ambushed irgc today. There are about 5-6 million sunnis in Iran, that is enough to bring the country to civil war. As for ethnic groups, CIA knows they dont need "most people" they just need a few thousand disaffected to arm and turn them on the reigme from each ethnicity, and chaos will erupt once the regime responds
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>>127419138
Yeah nah, how about you give back northern Cyprus for a start.
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>>127421357
also, a few months back, the arab sunni region of ahwaz had major protests quelled by irgc tanks. And then, last week the same thing happeneed in a shia region of saudi

many happenings are on the horizon
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>>127420858
صدام كان منيوك هو اساس البلاوي كلها
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>>127421357

>Think of their centuries before 1979, they never had Islamic theocratic rule.

What? They were not theocracies indeed, but they were still deeply religious governments. Secularism was introduced to Iran during the last century.

>Persians are a very secular people by nature.

That must be why they elected Islamists into power during the election.

And the second paragraph are just spastic delusions. All MENA countries have some sort of an insurgency going on inside their country; Iran's situation is nothing specific. Most people there are deeply religious people loyal to the Iranian government, even the Sunnis. Iran is not Syria. It can't get Balkanized.

>>127421458

We are working on it in case you haven't noticed, just making sure they won't end up genocided.
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>>127420680
To the extent of my burger knowledge, the current Assad has not been calling for the destruction of Israel. He will be happy to hold onto his country intact.
Trump is a pragmatist who is probably obsessed with how he will go down in history. The fastest victory against IS will require cooperation with Russia and Syria, and we see it unfolding before our eyes. The cruise missile attack was a meme.
Israel is the wild card, and the true danger to peace and the region. The question is do they wield enough influence over Trump to overcome his desires to go down in history favorably.
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>>127421089
This would be good. Bomb everything East of Istanbul.
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>>127421896
>working on it
Erdoshit is doing everything possible to fuck everything up. You should take back all the Turks that migrated there and leave only the Turkish Cypriot. We're not animals like you, no one is getting genocided.
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>>127421896
>What? They were not theocracies indeed, but they were still deeply religious governments. Secularism was introduced to Iran during the last century.
They were not "deeply religious" They were always open-minded and look back through all the shahs history, they all used to drink and have mystical poetry and a whole bunch of haraam stuff, they never propogated religiousness.
>that must be why they elected Islamists into power during the election.
Thats because only Islamist are allowed in politics you dimwit
>And the second paragraph are just spastic delusions. All MENA countries have some sort of an insurgency going on inside their country; Iran's situation is nothing specific.
I beg to differ, Iran is very specific because it has so many enemires desperate to tear it apart, and is surrounded by them
>Most people there are deeply religious people loyal to the Iranian government, even the Sunnis.
Proof?
>Iran is not Syria. It can't get Balkanized.
People used to say Syria is impregnable, Syria is strong Syria etc.. it fell apart in a few months. Iran is no different, once foreign money and arms come pouring in, it will fall apart


Im giving an objective analysis here, I remember ba couplr of years I predicted a major yemeni-saudi war and everyone thought i was crazy. My political predictions are always right, Iran is going to be torn apart as will Saudi,
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>>127422380
This. Turks are the genociders, not Greeks.

Tell me, are Greeks concerned about Turkish clay ambitions for the Aegean islands?
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As an average american who believes assad bombs his own citizens with chemical weapons, please educate me.
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>>127422164
Do you know where Istanbul is in relation to Turkey as a whole? :)
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>>127422696
Of course. Bomb everything east of istanbul up to India's border.
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>>127422517
Sunnis are Loyal to Iran Gov't..
Watch Khamenei Video about his Visit on Sunni Region like Kurdistan, Khorasan etc..
Gorillion of Sunni Welcomed him and Love him..
If sunni hate Iran gov't, gorillion of him will kill khamenei instantly and want independence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d0dNHOfpd4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekWwPVvFI5Q
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>>127422519
They violate our airspace every single day so yeah.
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r8 my predicts if anarchist rojava becomes independent

>independence
>anarchist model causes immediate economic stall
>forced to inroduce state socialism/communism to even keep country together
>immediate sanctions on imports and exports by all neighbours
>economy collapses
>impossible to trade with foreign entities due to land lock
>slowly almost all power falls to the central goverment and military and anarchy officially ends
>lack of arable land and impossibility of import causes massive food shortages and medical infrastructure breakdown

path A
>country falls apart to the point where turkey and syria launch a reclamation campaign
>rojava collapses

path B
>massive discontent causes military/militant coup against communist
>rojava becomes totalitarian islamic shithole

path c
>communist refuse to give up and institute forced labour to increase food supply
>because hard labourers need more food it dosent work and starvation eventually occurs
>rojava devolves to democratic kampuchea levels of sadism and evil
>eventually even the west and saudis pull support and state is annexed by syria and turkey
>the kurds dont fight back much more happy under joint syrian-turk rule

A B or C which would you prefer for "rojava"
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>>127423550
are you serious? I can pull out a dozen videos right now of saddam with hundreds of thousands of shiites chanting for him, i can pull out videos with qaddafi having hundreds of thousands chanting for him while he makes. a few videos prove nothing as to what people think, especially people as treacherous as sunnis
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>>127423805
where you from?
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>>127422380

We are talking about secularists here.

>We're not animals like you, no one is getting genocided.

Yeah, that's not what was happening before Turkey intervened.

>>127422517

>They were not "deeply religious" They were always open-minded and look back through all the shahs history, they all used to drink and have mystical poetry and a whole bunch of haraam stuff, they never propogated religiousness.

Wrong. Most Middle Eastern people were always religious. Islam's nature makes it very hard for it's practitioners to liberalize. Ruling dynasties were degenerates pretty much everywhere, but the people were always conservative.

>Thats because only Islamist are allowed in politics you dimwit

Who do you think elected the guys who only allow Islamists into politics you fucking retard?

>I beg to differ, Iran is very specific because it has so many enemires desperate to tear it apart, and is surrounded by them

That is every Middle Eastern country ever. Shit is extremely volatile for everyone here.

>Proof?

Proof? These guys literally walked to their deaths against Saddam in human wave attacks.

>People used to say Syria is impregnable, Syria is strong Syria etc..

Nobody used to say that. Syria was always known as a corrupt, incompetent place. Iran is no joke.

>>127422164
>>127423321

Istanbul has very few natives, most people there are conservatives from all over the country. That place should definitely get purged.
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>>127422670

Why do you think Assad would bomb civilians with chemical weapons, while he is winning the battle that is fought nearby, days after Trump said he could stay?
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>RuAF destroying ISIL vehicles at south-east of Palmyra region
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S3yIUoU10w
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>>127418246
Why in the world would anyone choose to support Wahhabism?

Perverted the hell outta takfir. Spawns extremest groups like it ain't no thing
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>>127423637
none of them lead to k*rd genocide so none of them will be happen.
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>>127423991

He's not an average American, I can guarantee you that.
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>>127424256
im pretty sure "path c" is pretty close to that
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>>127423886
>That is every Middle Eastern country ever. Shit is extremely volatile for everyone here
No other ME nation is as surrounded by as many enemies as Iran is right now
>Proof? These guys literally walked to their deaths against Saddam in human wave attacks.
That was 30 years fresh out of the revolution. ALOT has changed since then.
>Nobody used to say that. Syria was always known as a corrupt, incompetent place
Revisionist history. Syria was always seen as a dangerous and powerful player in the region. Israel used to complain night and day about their chemical stockpile and missiles

Dont take my word for it, just remember my prediction when it happens
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>>127419404
Based Saud Bro, nice to meet u m8. Hope life goes well 4 u
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>>127424364
>Syria was always seen as a dangerous and powerful player in the region
And then Hafez died and Bashar gave people more liberty.
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Bah keep forgetting to tripffag
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>7 hours ago
>The FSA have repelled a government attempt to advance on the Makhoul area in the Syrian desert, Syria.
Are hohol bullshiting? What happened?
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ITT people don't know Shah Ismail (Which is Turk) Shia identity to Iranians to stop Turkification of them by Ottoman Empire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_conversion_of_Iran_to_Shia_Islam
So we made Iranians Shia

Then Agha Mohammad and Rıza Pehlevi (which are also Turk) give Iranian identity to Persian Empire and i have to admit they had pretty decent national anthem
https://youtu.be/fbQhhFytXkM

So based sides of Iran you know is made by Turks and Turkish population are 1/3 of Iran
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>>127424364

>No other ME nation is as surrounded by as many enemies as Iran is right now

Turkey is hated by literally every one of our neighbors, except Azerbaijan. Syria is surrounded by Joran, Israel, and Turkey, and faces some hostility even in Lebanon. Fucking everyone hates Israel. Yemen is under a naval blockade and even Oman joined the fray against them. Saudis have Yemen to their south and Iran to their east. Hell, Iran at least has a few neighbors they are ok with, and a direct naval route to Russia.

>That was 30 years fresh out of the revolution. ALOT has changed since then.

Really? But you said that Iranians were always really secular people. Can you explain how those guys who elected Islamists into power changed in 30 years, and what made them change? Don't get me wrong, they are a little more liberal without a doubt, but they are still mostly Islamists.

>Revisionist history. Syria was always seen as a dangerous and powerful player in the region.

What? Everything has always been so half-assedly done in Syria it is fucking ridiculous.
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>>127422517
Lot of points going on here... but to chime in on Syria point... considering the decade of systematic destabilization and character assassination of Assad, Syria is doing fucking brilliantly. Bashar should've been gone years ago. Just look at Libya n Iraq. Throwing false flags at him... cremation centers n shiet... won't stick
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>>127424598
We know that. Turks ruled Iran for forever and many other peoples: Greeks, Parthians, Arabs and Mongols. But none of those peoples were able to extinguish the flame of Aryanism in the hearts of the Persians. The rulers started to act and feel like Persians after a few decades.

Even the Ottoman rulers in Constantinople used the Persian language and culture in their court intensively.
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>>127424598

I am sorry you had to see this.
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>>127423805
Serious, Saddam and Iran was different things, majority of Sunni Shia rift started in 1979..
If Sunni Treacherous in Iran, why They sided with Iran when Iran Iraq war Happened..
Even Qom Seminary who was Center of Shia Education, have Academy of Sunni..
ahmed abdallah sambi was graduated from qom, even he was sunni..
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I also have a question... why does noboby make the Wahhabi/Salafist distinction when talking about Islam in the discussion on terrorism

Is it because of Saudi money? Lack of knowledge?

How are you supposed to combat "ISIS" if you don't even know what your actually fighting?

(Yeah I know deep state loves ISIS as destabilization/control took in ME)

>why my only reasonable guess as to why distinction IS NOT made is to keep up the social battle of left vs. right so everyone who is actually against terrorism appears to be against all of Islam and therefore evil lol
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>>127424369

DeZ suspension bridge, since destroyed.

I didn't want these feels, not now..
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>>127425620
For real?? It... was.... beautiful :'(

>pic related to help combat sorrow
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>>127425378
Probably because it is on the same level of asking someone in Saudi Arabia why they do not make the distinction between Episcopalians and Presbyterians.
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>>127424651
neither of us will convince the other, but

TL:DR Everyone in the ME will be dissected and ravaged by war to ensure Israel rbecomes hegemonic in the region again, Egypt,Iraq, Syria,Lybia, Yemen all have started and Iran and KSA will start soon

fact
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>>127425955
I understand that in terms of scale but NOT in terms of effect

If Episcopalians produce 90% of terrorist attacks due to perverted ideology but Presbyterians and rest of Christianity don't, then you damn well better know everything about Episcopalians before you go about saving the world
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>>127425982
Actually, it's far more likely that GREATER SYRIA will be realized, creating hegemony of truth.

Source = God
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>>127426484
Hopefully these other countries fueled by structure that proliferate power abuse don't let their ego get in the way of a process capable of saving humanity.

Golan Heights, Jordan and Saudi Arabia shall be saved next
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>>127426484
i dont know what the end result is, but thats the plan, every nation that could conceivably pose a threat to Israel at any time, they will try to destroy its power
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>>127425771

Google pictures of it. Great piece of French engineering in a native-approved style.
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>>127426595
True true (im memeing :p)
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>greater syria
we must go deeper
https://youtu.be/o4FwpVC9JVM
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>>127408383
Mashallah
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>>127426323
Great point. Unfortunately, Muslims who know about such matters have never really made an attempt to educate the West on such matters. Instead we get wailing about Islamophobia.
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>>127426735
I feel like if would be easiest solution ever. More I think about it, more I think of the evil reasons the social engineers have to NOT give us the easy solution and keep trmenedous world tension.

Cause man the wailing on social media is so damn annoying lol
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>>127408474
Who dis Ebin?
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>>127425378
In regards to ISIS, it is actually much easier to "defeat" than a terrorist organization. Their strength was holding territory and reaping the benefits of having a state, but that will also be their downfall. Once they hold no territory in Syria or Iraq, they just become another al-qaeda boogieman.
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>>127426994
So that's probably on the cards then. But what about defeating actual terrorism?

Perhaps something far more complex due to humanities inherent ability to "radicalize" organizations at certain percentage...

Feel like it would be difficult for the various zealots to get away with perverting any modern day organizations to degree of terrorism without anybody noticing. Current failing portions were radicalized back in the day
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>>127427394
There is a solution, but it's inhumane and impossible due to Israel existing and KSA-USA relationship.
That solution is let them have their sectarian war. They will be forced to reform either when it's done or during it.
Worked for Catholicism.
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What did I miss?
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>>127427686
Now thats a comfy klein-dorpie
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