Ok /pol/. Let's settle this once and for all. Fascism o

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>>126804933
I'm assuming Constitutionalist falls under libertarianism?

Bump because people are voting but not replying.

>>126805498
Yes, fascists would not tie their own hands with a constitution.

>>126804933
.>implying you don't need Fascism to create an environment to then instill Libertarianism

>>126804933
B U M P
U
M
P

>>126805657
I mean, farmers rising up with guns to fight the monarchy seems pretty libertarian to me

>>126804933
Libertarians are as big off a cancer as marxist scums, Materialists needs to be gassed

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>>126804933

>>126805845
Ty cus ppl just seem to vote without replying and the thread just falls to the bottom.

>>126804933
You should repeat this quiz with a second question where people list their country.

We can break it down into what ideology is popular in different regions.

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>>126804933
If fascists could keep their system going beyond the first leader then I might have a little more support for them. As it stands right now they are only good for getting rid of commies.

>>126806139
I don't think strawpoll lets u make multi tiered polls

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>>126804933

>>126806266
Monarchism has been the dominant form of govt in this world. Im not saying the two are the same, but authoritarian regimes have actually worked out for long periods of time.

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>>126804933
>implying libertarianism would work in today's society

>>126804933
neither, monarchist

inb4 fascism then

>>126805991
gas yourself. Bolshewism and lenin in general deserve a helicopter ride into a gas chamber

>>126806412
This is a good emblem. Saved

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>>126806464
Monarchism ain't fascism though, nor is monarchism necessarily incompatible with libertarianism.

It's gotta be pragmatic and we can't just start over. Fascism.

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>>126804933
hahaha it's going to be the same every time. we (libertarians) just need to accept that there needs to be a state and that it needs to be racially pure. we can fight about everything else later. media defintly needs to be controlled by the fascists though--they have much better propaganda than the jews

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Who are the 51% of people who think Libertarianism is better than Fascism? Let's gas 'em.

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>>126806553
fuck you merkel

>>126806652
I think theyre similar because they both imply authoritarianism and extreme nationalism. I know theres a lot more to it than that but thts the main thing about the two systems. And yes I do agree that it can work with libertarianism but that would probably be under a weak monarch or a just one of the many different types of monarchies.

>>126804933
Both.

Fascism when the country is in under serious outside threat.

A strong citizen militia to oust the fascists from power and restore the republic when they are no longer needed.

The libertarianism vote is basically old school ron paulism from 2012.

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>>126806738
>media defintly needs to be controlled by the fascists
I'm okay with propaganda but there sure as hell better be free speech.

FASCISM
A S
S I
C C
I S
S A
MSICSAF

>>126807112
Oops. Wasn't supposed to come out like that.

>>126805991
National Bolshevism? Hitler amd Lenin together? That's retarded.

fascism is only preferable to communism, if you are sick of degeneracy, just be a libertarian with traditionalist values/standards and christian morals

>>126804933
Its a cycle and fascism what we need right now.
Flooding your country with people who can't even contemplate NAP while trying to push libertarianism is nothing less than suicidal.

>>126805969
Get the fuck out ot Scandinavia you commie shithead

>>126806965
So something like the Roman thing where a tyrant is chose in times of crisis?

>>126807215
FASCISM
A..........S
S...........I
C..........C
I............S
S...........A
MSICSAF

>>126807338
>muh personal freedumbs
I dont give a fuck about that, I want strong country with traditional values and chrstian morals not just my home.

>>126807112
FASCISM
ASCISMF
SCISMFA
CISMFAS
ISMFASC
AMFASCI
MFASCIS

>>126804933
fascism until libertarianism is achievable

>>126807338
We have to absorb the poor and hierarchy is the best way

>>126807338
that can never work
Companies will install their own agenda that benefits them, otherwise known as sweatshops with globalism

>>126807525
>I don't give a fuck about personal freedumbs
and that's why your shitty little rain island is going to be airstrip one by 2040.

>>126804933
Bump

>>126804933

50/50

I'm honestly pleasantly surprised.

So the choice lies in either soul-crushing, collectivist, modernist state socialism and hyperindividualistic untranscendental Mammon-worship?
How about fuck both?
>RADICAL TRADITIONALISM

>>126807557
Nice. I like that.

>>126804933
fascism is the best, forcefully ending degeneracy and subhumans

>>126807354
yes exactly.

The real redpill is that classical era peoples were significantly smarter than the people of today.

Intelligence has been on a steady decline since the dark ages and humanity has literally never left behind feudalism since then. Just gave it different names.

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>>126804933
What about National-Libertarianism ?

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>>126804933
Just a reminder that you already have Lolbertarianism in the US, and it's exactly what has been slowly fucking us since the nation's inception.

>>126807299
Capitalism is Judaism incarnate

>>126804933
>checks the results
lol "we're all nazis" eternally btfo

>>126804933
Fascism during troubled times, Libertarianism during peace times.

>>126807769
>I care more about my personal freedumbs than fate of my country
t. Brazil 2.0

>>126807816
yea pol seems to be relatively evenly divided.

>implying that country would ever care about you, the minority

>>126807766
>implying the companies values wouldnt reflcect their source of income

>>126807934
Literally no evidence for this

>>126806830
>Fascism now has 52%
My faith in humanity has been restored!

>>126807953
What the hell is this?
>>126807843
Fascism isn't really collectivist though.

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>>126808092

>>126804933
Whichever pisses more people off.
/Thread.

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>>126807953
That's a given if you're on here.

>>126808039
>muh fate of my country
>US had the greatest personal freedoms with no state interference in the life of the average man for 120 years
>greatest growth of wealth and culture of any nation throughout history and stayed 90% white doing it
>government starts mixing with business(fascism by it's very definition)
>65% white in 80 years and the economy stagnating

Hmm.

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>>126804933
Why not both?

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FASCISM

>>126807967
What the US has right now is not even close to Libertarianism. They had a Libertarian-style country back before the Federal Reserve was created in 1913, it's all been downhill since then.

Monarchism > all others.

>>126808326
so edgy

>>126804933
i have a new ideology perfect for /pol/
>liberatarian fascism
national socialism in the cities with liberal arts (the good kind)
liberatarianism in the rurals with people with skills
and the entire thing becoming fascist when necessary (as in times of brink of collapse)
what do you think /pol/?

Fascism without racial identity, except niggers, fuck them

>>126804933
> libertarianism

are you being fucking serious?

this is what has happened to 4pol? Wow.

>>126808432
You should mark fascism then

>>126804933
Don't see what's wrong with a combination of the two. Fascist libertarianism is what America was built upon.

>>126808432
>fascism or libertarianism
>mutually exclusive with monarchy

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>>126808456
this

Fascism or Judaism.

>>126808360
You're ignoring that during those glorious times of personal freedom, the government enforced immigration laws and only White Europeans were allowed to immigrate, and were forced to assimilate.

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>>126808385
The Libertarian part of the Constitution and how it was written ambiguously is what caused it. It's trash and need to be thrown out and replaced.

Complete freedom of speech allows those who wish to trample that freedom to also have a voice.

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>>126808456
i mean think about it
wheres the degeneracy and crime happening most?
>in the city
and where do people care most about freedom?
>in the rurals
its the perfect system
and tie in murdoch murdochs idea of nice guy national socialism (the dictator has to return to a farm when he's done) and you're set

>>126808685
how does (((libertarianism))) make sense?

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we love our populists!

>>126808086
>>126808086
>71 people killed or injured
>muslim terror widespread in europe

>CNN headline
>ariana grande confirmed ok!
>people watch this and take it seriously

>people literally work the land the lord i mean bank owns.

literally mountains of evidence for this.

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>>126808689
Yeah, which libertarians are fine with. You don't get our rights until you become a citizen of our country.

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I'm glad there exists at least one place in the world where we can gather to discuss the literal God-tiers of political ideologies
1488+1776=<3

Do both for as long as necessary

>>126808689
Immigration laws are entirely within the bounds of any form of Libertarianism. The liberties of a libertarian state are only granted to those inside the country, not outside of it.
This modern "libertarian" party bullshit of open borders to anyone who wants in was invented by neo marxists in the 80's.

>>126808986
shut the fuck up you fat burger fuck

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>>126809052
Libertarianism let the subversive Marxists in. More you know, faggot.

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I voted

>>126809202
>There is a party that claims it is libertarian that no one believes or votes for
fixed for you

>>126806266
Fascism didn't exist long enough to really go beyond a first leader. War put an untimely end to fascism.

Somebody make an oc,combination of swastika with eagle and hoppean snake

Maybe smth like swastika witha snake curling around it?You know the self eating snake,just dont make it small,make it matter.


Also yeah welcome to /pol/ where the most progoverment and zerogverment politicall factions merge.

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>>126804933
That's like asking me to choose between ass and titties.

>>126809497
theres a picture of a bundle of snakes held together by the fasces ribbon and the caption reads "fuck off" and the snake heads are in all directions

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>>126809127
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>126809692
Sharing,is caring.

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>>126809459
>tfw NatSoc is an inevitability before you can even achieve anything close to Libertarianism ever again and Libertarianism is a Jewish meme to keep you distracted

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>>126809497
>>126809692
Blow it out your ass

>>126809828
>>126809886

>>126809868
libertarianism gets the govt out of evrything. (((they))) want to control everything.

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>>126809475
It existed in Spain, Portugal, and Argentina, and in every one of the nations it stopped after the first leader to try it died of old age.

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>>126804933
NAP bitches!

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I don't hate libertarians, partly because I was one as a teenager. But I've learned a few things, and now I'm a Fascist.

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>>126809997
Libertarianism is an inherently passive ideology, which is why you dumbfucks never gain any political traction. How do you plan on achieving this?

>>126804933
NatSoc with guns and free enterprise but harsh restrictions on big companies to prevent monopoly, subversion of the state and lobbyism.

Basically you can merge both ideologies

>>126808505
Rare ?

>>126809759
>Ron Paul
kek

Tribalism

Clan/Family > State/Individualism

>>126810268
b8

>>126810156
Libertarianism was what allowed the Americans to fight off the British. Literally gun owning farmers fighting off a monarchy.

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>>126804933
My biggest problem with fascism is that they don't seem to be afraid of government power at all. There's no checks and balances, nor Constitutions and rights to ensure that you have essential rights such as the right to bear arms or freedom of speech.

>>126804933
With liberrtarianism you get to kill the rapefugees, with facism the government gets to kill them.

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>>126810313

> the rise of socialism & nationalism always comes through fear & conflict, preceding war which swells the state
> French revolution
> WW1
> WW2
> Cold War
> Muslim holy war

Its the same boring cycle of death, destruction, poverty & reduced freedom.

Let us try Liberty.

>>126810442
That is the point of fascism. What you listed, according to fascists is an obstruction to the progression of the nation and therefore must be stifled.

>>126809886
Will do,have to.
Still a country with all freedoms,while simultaneously being overseen by big daddy goverment is a neat idea.


Just imagine,if there was a possibility for two person to fight to death without ingerention.Heck,there would be nation wide sports,heck i would pay double for hunger games with real murders and rapes.

Well back to communist shithole again.

>>126808505

Welcome newfag, /pol/ was a libertarian board before stormfags came.

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>>126804933
>Lolbertarians

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>>126810313
it's happening!

>>126809475
Fascism is the first leader though isn't it? didn't Hitler want Germany to be a republic once he died? i think a strong leader could this country around pretty quickly, and then we just go back to the constitutional republic--just with some minor tweaks (i.e. no more 14th, no jews in places of power, glorious border walls, etc).

>>126810516
The diffrence is that with facist you can also kill shitskins that have citizenship of your country.

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Can't we agree on an unified ideology that unifies Nationalism and Freedom?

>>126810613
>Still a country with all freedoms,while simultaneously being overseen by big daddy goverment is a neat idea
In the end I think that's what both NatSocs and Libertarians want

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>>126810409
Germany was allowed to have rifles. Just not small arms.
>>126810714
pic related

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>>126810313
President PAUL!!
>Trump works too

>>126810442
paper doesnt ensure shit

>>126810409
>gun ownership is libertarianism

no

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>>126804933
Both.

Fascism while the Jew exists and while there are still millions of mudslimes/niggers in Europe.

Then libertarianism in an all white society.

fascism is a nice idea in magic la la land where you have a perfect flawless selfless logical leadership but in reality it's just another sociopathic politician that gets into power but this time with retard followers who think letting him oppress his own people wont end in disaster which it does every single time

meanwhile libertarianism actually helps every country that establishes its principals because individual people really do like gathering resources while not being aggressed upon

>>126810764
>Hitler wanted a republic after he died
First time hearing this. More pleass?

>>126810559
>Let us try Liberty.
Yeah, the USA turned out so well!

>>126806412

libertarians would never ally with the socialist right

>>126806468
someone put the snake (similar to medicine symbol) over the swastika or the eagle with "don't tread on me"

>>126810048
Fascism is not meant to be a permanent government system, it's meant to guide a nation through a difficult era and then hand power back to a traditionally Western government until it's needed again.
Fascism is basically a kick in the ass so you get back on track.

>>126807557
>Cis
Triggered

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>>126804933

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>>126808505
Wut?

>>126810872
It does, otherwise Americans would have lost their guns long ago.

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>>126810802
no, there is nothing that has destroyed the national identity and traditions more then consumerist capitalism.

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>>126810194
>free enterprise but harsh restrictions on big companies to prevent monopoly
natsocs really are this fucking stupid
fyi, monopolies are created by the state, not the market.

>>126810981
oh, i'm not sure. I heard it on here, but never researched it.

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>>126810942
This. This guy gets it. Finally someone else who gets it.

>>126804933
Remember when /pol/ wasn't composed of mostly 14 year old edgelords from leddit? I remember. >>126792583 even confirms it.

>>126811204
The only thing I know about this is when he was writing his will while being bombed by the Russians, he set up a Weimar style govt to be put in place when he died.

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>libertards
MUH FREEDOME WILL FIX IT
DONT ENTER MY ZONE PLEASE

>fashy goy master race
We will endorse a strong and able leader to handle our problems

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>>126810872
Paper backed by guns, a government that has checks and balances limiting itself, and a military and police sworn to uphold the words on that paper definitely means shit.

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The Road to Serfdom is paved from both directions, Socialism & Nationalism the worst of which yet unseen by most is the peoples state or Democracy.

You are the useful idiots of history time and time again, time to break the cycle.

>>126811096
most states arent texas or new hampshire. words can be interpreted however you want, violence can only be interpreted one way

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>>126811298

>>126804933
Fascism won this debate back in 2012 when Ron Paulberg lost

>>126810989
The United States is far far from liberty.

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>>126811395

>>126810942
>>126810951
>>126810981
Hitler heavily encouraged ethnic German citizens to own and properly use firearms in protection from outside invading (((forces))). He also emphasized the familial unit and heavily encouraged private ownership of property
Hitler was a true libertarian at heart but the only one to ever have any realistic plan to ever establishing a government and society that could sustain it

Modern libertarians are the biggest fucking LARPers ever but they are /ourLARPers/

One day they will see the light and join us and an ethnocentric utopia can be established but that day is not today

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>>126811439
>I know literally nothing about the National Socialist movement so I am going to make an ad-hominem picture to prove my point about my ideology

if only you could've devoted the time posting that image into prevent another terrorist attack, my poor british friend

I mean, its not like you can act unless a mudshit violates the NAP right?

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>>126811298
> if only we can get a man with a plan in charge indefinitely, then we'll have Utopia!
> My chosen dictator will totally keep his word & won't destroy me for being the degenerate I am

Good goy, elect another master you weak beta faggots.

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>>126811652

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>>126804933
roadlets btfo

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>>126810989
>most powerful nation on Earth
>has a hegemony over most of the world
>exports its culture to almost everyone
Uhhh...yeah, it actually turned out pretty great.

>>126804933

>not wanting a right wing libertarian micro state with a fascist God-king protecting liberty, fighting degeneracy and keeping out nonwhites

LIBERTY
FREE TRADE
GUN OWNERSHIP
NO BUMS AND VAGRANTS ON OUR STREETS
CLOSED BORDERS
NO KIKES AND NONWHITES ALLOWED

>>126811283
Open your eyes
Go to /nsg/
Most 1488 NatSocs on this board believe the same thing; it's the (((shills))) falseflagging otherwise

>>126804933
both tbqh

>>126811715
THIS

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>>126811765
Pretty much this. As long as you have a free market (tariffs are okay though), no weapon laws, and total freedom of speech, I'll support you.

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Depends if there are any commies around

>>126811765
This is america before 1900

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>>126811964
Also due process of course.

>>126812007
Yes this is very much me. I alternate between them too much.

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>>126811765
>>126811602
>>126810942
literally these
fascism is the means, libertarian state is the ends

>>126810559
Yeah because after each war, leader gives away power to the people. And degenerates now with freedom to do whatever they want cause another crisis.

>>126812007
>not moving more towards free-market when you see a commie

>>126810989
The 75% Liberty they had made them the greatest nation on earth before perpetual war was used to change directions, as Ayn Rand would say the world came so close to knowing true freedom but was pulled back from finishing the moral revolution.

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I think we all agree leftist deserve free helicopter rides, no?

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>>126811478
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

>>126807338
Yes because look how well people sticked to traditional values today

>>126812087
Yes. Fascism during the transitional phase, libertarianism once we settle down.

>>126805991
That faggot holding the "I love capitalism" sign is a fucking antifa member you twat.

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>>126804933

Hmm, hard choice...Hmm

>>126812088
> gives away power
Except their programs are never reversed, you now remember the income tax.

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>>126804933
>posts poll at most liberal time of day on /pol/
>still gets btfo

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>>126811602
>>126812087

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>>126811283
Thanks man, we both know that a libertarian society in the modern US/UK would mean mudslimes and niggers having the same freedoms that we have, they need to either be kept in check via fascist policies or removed completely, only after they're gone can we allow libertarianism to thrive.

>>126810951
Here's a short essay that BTFOs classical liberals, contemporary libertarians and ancaps.

https://archive.org/stream/GemeinschaftAndGesellschaft#page/n0/mode/1up

TLDR Libertarians' obsession with the individual above everything else leads to nihilism and the degeneracy we are seeing now, (pursuit of egotistic goals at the expense of family and nation) and in a sense libertarianism just as bad as communism at turning humanity into a faceless proletariat of lonely consumers who are obsessed with their rights rather than their duties to a "greater and more enduring entity"

>>126810942
white capitalists don't give a shit about the nation,
why would they magically do it if the jew disapeared?
They are just like the jews because thats what individualistic and materialistic ideologies leads too, capitalism literally encourage jewish behaviour

>>126810689
That's why the removed /new/ right? Cause they wouldn't stop posting Hans-Hermann Hoppe?

Look at Trump & tell me power doesn't corrupt or that he is acting the way you wanted him to.

>>126810936
Nice meme. Saved.

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>>126812145
That goes without saying

>>126812439
Ill post this for a few more days.

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>>126804933
Hail victory!

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>>126812019
should we meme the eu and china into having a commie cripple fight?

>>126808456
this actually makes sense.

what do you do about urban sprawl though? you'd have to clearly designate county zones. what about the small country towns that are 4 blocks? a lot of grey areas.

>>126812578
Not really
Before the civil rights and female suffrage movements, an all white society was pretty homey
Pre-1920s US was actually pretty socialist

>>126804933
Which one gets us better video games?

>>126812889
>implying china cares what ppl think about it

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>>126812857
HEIL MUTHURFURHER

>>126812995
corruption/degeneration of society dosen't happen over a night

>>126812589
Trump's failings have nothing to do with being "corrupted by power". What does that even mean? I have the power to do x, therefore I will be "corrupt" how do you even make that jump? "Power corrupts" is nonsensical

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>>126804933

>>126808986
is libertarianism not democratic?

>>126804933
This is pointless fighting. Not every Euro nation has to be one or the other. We can have different economic / government styles, but we must all agree to remove and ban all non whites - INCLUDING JEWS. If we can agree on this, then who fucking cares about our style of government for the time being. We can debate this after we solve the Jewish problem.

>>126804933
Libertarian because I'm not a butthurt cuck like most people crying about degeneracy.

>>126807557
I too consider backtracking quite interesting

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press 1 if you're an american and voted libertarian.
press 2 if you're not an american and voted nazi.

>>126813042
but muh BRICS...3rd world commies vs. eu ....llllllllLLLLLET'S GET READY TO RUMMMBLLEEEE!!!

>>126812087
Wouldn't it be that Libertarian is the means and fascism is the end to get to our means (Libertarian)

>>126813346
USSR was against Jews

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>>126812589
Look at those degenerates and tell me freedom dosnt corrupt or that this is the society you want to live in.

>>126804933
/pol/ is a fascist board.

>>126811028
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>>126808456
Nice guy national socialism dude, it's perfect.

>>126813457
*correction ...vs eu commies

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>>126804933
Stop trying to divide us shill. Also, both. Take what's good from both and mix them, creating a new glorious, centrist ideology.

>>126813325
Giving other people the power to determine aspects of your life without consent, simply by being more in number than you. Democracy is to be ruled by your inferiors; Democracy is theft.

>>126813472
Something close to 80% of Marxists Socialist elites were literally Jews

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>>126813501
>he thinks the natural state of man when not dominated by the state is to suck dicks while dressed like a dog.

>>126813325
democracy is a soft form of communism
there is nothing libertarian about it whatsoever

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Cucktarians BTFO

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>>126813748

>>126813748
/thread

>>126813346
>We can have different economic / government styles, but we must all agree to remove and ban all non whites - INCLUDING JEWS. If we can agree on this, then who fucking cares about our style of government for the time being.

Libertarianism as a philosophy is obsessed with individuals and their rights above everything else. Forcefully removing individuals based on race does not fit in with this. It's a cognitive dissonant jump that libertarians have to make to fit in on /pol/, no wonder so many cling to ad-hoc "hoppeanism"

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>>126813794
All Jews.
All mass murders of Russians, East Europeans and Christians.

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>>126805991

Get on the helicopter

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DON'T

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> wanting a police state to force government monitored internet logins
> wanting a powerful state to ban cash & force you to have a government monitored microchip in you & your children so they are at the mercy of government to even buy food
> wanting a powerful state to destroy 4chan & ban all of the things you love
> wanting a government even more powerful so that whistleblowers disappear & war is escalated for the elite
> wanting a government so powerful the elites can enact whatever globalist plans of centralization they want

I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

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>>126813907
Anon, America up until the 1940's was doing pretty well, it wasn't until we started ramping up government power that our society became degenerate.

>>126809886
I don't know why but I imagine that snake with a British accent.

>>126811652
>Y-YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ME, IT'S NOT AN "EDGY" PHASE AT ALL, I ACTUALLY NEED DADDY HITLER TO STOP MY OWN PERSONAL DEGENERACY BECAUSE I AM A MASSIVE FAGGOT
nice tantrum, as expected from the 12-year-old edgelords who think any sort of socialism is a sustainable ideology

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>>126813325
No, thats liberal cucks. democracy is leftist egalitarian faggorty.

Libertarians want property owners to have comeplete authority over whats theirs, regardless of what a bunch of uneducated retards vote for.

>>126813907
>he thinks libertarian=libertine
oh boy

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>>126810442
>There's no checks and balances, nor Constitutions and rights to ensure that you have essential rights such as the right to bear arms or freedom of speech.
we are far from the social compact that was created in the declaration and constitution. think about a SCOTUS stacked with activists. they could take away the first amendment, second amendment. the 4th is already dead. the 14th is being exploited by "social justice"--fag marriage, rights for illegal immigrants, etc. if we keep this is up for another decade, we are leaving a lot up to the politicians and the jewdiciary, and I'm not willing to trust these sociopaths with my rights.

>>126813501
Maximum liberty means you can force degenerates from your property. The free market tolerates no degeneracy if left alone; as degeneracy by definition makes one inefficient and eventually removes one from society.

>>126814146
The top tax rate under Eisenhower was 91%.

>>126812999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdkDjsBiO58

>>126814061
>Worship man that broke NAP every single day he lived
lmao

>>126814226
What about government on a national level though?

>>126814172
America was founded on nationalism, not libertarianism. That's a meme spouted by jew bankers and landowners who want everything deregulated and spread by contrarian teenage edgelords.

>>126813325
no
Marx himself said democracy is the first step towards socialism

>>126804933
In an ideal world, or this world?

>>126813686
You have to leave now. Don't come back until your 18 or over. I'm telling your mom.

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Fascists hate freedom

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i bet these fascist cucks still believe in fiat currency baka

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>>126804933
Why can't we have fascist gov with rothbard economy?

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>>126813325

>>126814240
Libertine has nothing to do with politics, I described what a libertarian is. Perhaps you thought I was inferring libertarians are libertines. In some sense they could be considered so

>>126814219
>implying NatSocs don't actually have their lives in order and aren't living the ideology they preach
NatSoc was never meant to be sustainable
It was always meant to drive out subversive (((forces))) so that a enthostatic republic can be established

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>>126814576
Marx also said this about the (((free market)))

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>>126813501
> Implying freedom produced that
> Implying it wasnt the welfare state & arts subsidies
> Implying people can act like that in a free society without social & economic consequences

Yeah righto Jack

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>>126814546
America was founded on a fundamental distrust of government power. We wouldn't have our Constitution and Bill of Rights if it was based on pure nationalism.

>>126804933
A e s t h e t i c

National Socialism and Libertarianism have already been unified by the Henry George School of Economics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVtbsbjcMh8

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Libertarianism is based on self-ownership, self governance. You could call it "Private Law" what we see now as goverment services would be replaced with privately owned services, the difference being that you can opt to not pay for a service you find distateful, wasteful, our harmful.

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>>126814546
Riiiight

SIEG

>>126814809
>free market
>same as free trade

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Things we can thank Jews for:

Communism
Zionism
Usury
Feminism
The Homosexual 'movement'
slavery and organ trafficking in Yougoslavia
Transgenders
'Critical Theory', Psychoanalysis and Freudian nonsense
The Federal Reserve
The WTO, IMF, and World Bank
Iraq I
Iraq II
The coming war with Iran
9/11
WW1
WW2
Holodomor
The atomic bomb
Multiculturalism (but not for Israel!) and mass immigration
The 'Holocaust' lie extorsion racket
The Eastern European sex slave trade
Israel's attack on the USS Liberty, spying on their government, stealing their nuclear secrets, while eating up US tax dollars
Pornography
Obscenity in Theatre and TV
Circumcision
The African Slave Trade
Every war over the past 100 years
Every Regime change
GMO's
Kosher tax
The Death of Jesus Christ
Poising of the wells during the Black Death
Jack The Ripper
JFK assassination
Turk genocide of Armenian Christians

>>126804933
Libertarianism is the goal.

Fascism is necessary to achieve it in the short term.

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>>126814964
ment to quote you.
>>126814511

>"Waaaaaah too much freedom we can't handle it!"

Any political ideology other than Libertarianism is cucked.

We can't have a high trust society Libertarians want with niggers everywhere.

>>126814806
even Hitler didn't have his life in order, he was an amphetamine-shooting maniac

fascism is for cucks who need an authority figure to give their life purpose

>>126815027
no difference really, since when where libertarians for protectionism anyways?

>>126815073
Heil yeah
Keep these /nsg/-/lrg/ alliance memes comin

>>126814809
>taking marx seriously on anything
>ever
you have to go back, your kind isn't welcome here

>>126815214
>Chile

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>>126815138
I agree. so lets cut off their gibsmedats, let them riot and destroy themselves.

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>>126815252

>>126815150
>falling for the meth addict meme
You do realize (((Allies))) wrote the history books after WWII, don't you?

Honestly idgaf which system of economics and government we use, I just want a white country.

>>126804933
Considering /pol/'s version of acceptable Libertarianism is, essentially, fascism, I wouldn't vote for either. I am Libertarian and I voted for Gary Johnson and all the 'Leppos.

>inb4 dude weed

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>>126815214
The Constitution allows for tariffs, and Calvin Coolidge implemented them despite otherwise being a hands off guy.

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>>126804933
>tfw /pol/ is more facist than libertarian

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>>126813786
Taxation is theft. So is government takeover of industry. One of the few cases where I don't mind government intervention is where it breaks up companies who have become monopolies, not naturally, but by fraud.

>>126813907
Doesn't mean they all believe we are all equal. I agree with some things libertarians say, but I don't like their individualistic values. I think we need an increase in brotherhood and ethnic pride, so I understand we are kind of at odds with each other when it comes to culture. But if we at least agree to remove non whites, then we can respectfully argue our beliefs after that.

I think its possible to find a middle ground in many areas. And I am fine with some nations being more libertarian based while others more Fascist based. Europe has room for experimentation and differences, no European people are the same. But first, secure our borders and people. If you don't agree with this, then fuck yourself, regardless of your beliefs.

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>>126815371

Liberty is an alpha ideology, alpha's crave the freedom to succeed, betas need daddy government to give them NEET bux & tell them how to live. Alphas don't need to be told how to live they show everyone how its done.

I should probably redo this poll but add a third option for the temporary fascism to get to libertarianism.

>>126815423
FfffffffffffffffffUCKINF DUUUDE WEEED LMAO

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>>126814546
>>126814902
>>126814982

My niggas, It was founded on roman fascism!

>>126815340
How was Chile libertarian?
It was capitalist but hardly libertarian
>>126815329
Maybe you sould read the post i replied to leaf

>>126815371
Would prefer deportations desu famalam

>>126815400
Hitler destroyed Europe because of his retarded ideas, he's not a person to emulate or aspire to unless you are seriously deranged and possibly without a full time job.

>>126815561
Nah
This is fine as is
It sparks good discussion ITT

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>>126815252

Democratic socialism

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>>126804933
Imma say fascism cuz I like larping as a nazi. I'd never move to a fascist country though, I like living in the west where I have freedom.

>>126814902
>>126814982
It's not based on pure nationalism, but having a government is an intrinsic part of the USA.
If America truly valued individual rights above all else, there'd be no problem with states seceeding from the union, but ther was and is.

Also Jefferson was pretty much a Georgist and supported land taxation.

>>126815423
I'm a libertarian. I voted for Trump because gary johnson is a cucked shill. he's so fake.

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Official flag of the Theocratic League of White Supremacist Libertarians

>>126806139
Any attempt to get basic data about /pol/ users is met with "nice attempt at data mining, hello see aye ae!". However you can still look at the post flags and come to your own conclusions.

>>126815683
Breaking NAP.

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>>126815698
>completely normal human white male
>lots of friends and aquaintances
>employed at a local hospital as an RCP
How does it feel knowing literal Nazis are more successful than you and possibly could even be the one saving your life one day?

>>126815642
I actually had an argument with some retard about those, he didn't know the roman fasces was just the symbol of the law/magistrate...

>>126815856
>freedom to stick your dick in a blender is good cause muh freedumbs

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>>126815890
>but having a government is an intrinsic part of the USA.
So because a government exists it must be fascist? And where is this idea that libertarians are anarchists anyways? We already established in >>126805498 and >>126805656 that Constitutionalism is closer to libertarianism than fascism.

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>>126815138
>another retard pretends you have to trust people to live in a libertarian society

That's why you have guns.