/lrg/ - LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL: HOPPE CRUSOE ECONOMICS Edition

>>126047036
First for private militias to guard my opium fields

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Well?

>>126047036
>Paleolibertarianism
Is that like libertarianism, but with donkey jaws on sticks instead of AR 15 fully automatic assault RPG's?

>>126048246
Based Andrew Ryan. I remember when Bioshock came out in 07 and I got it on release day, I had a blast playing that game over the years.

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>>126048801
there were no roads back then

maybe that's why libertarians remember the palaeolithic so fondly

>>126048801
It's an older term for right libertarianism: conservative values plus a free market ideology, i.e. Paleo & Mean.

>>126048246
No.

t. man in the Vatican

>>126051229
I also just realized this joke would've been amazing if I had used a Vatican City proxy. Fuck me.

>>126051414
You did good anyway Hans. That was a great smash.

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Another bump

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I just realized something about stormies. I feel dumb for not having noticed earlier but it goes like this: Libertarians are often self-described as "fiscally conservative and socially liberal". Stormies are the opposite, they are more often than not "socially conservative and fiscally leftist".

Think about it, when asked most Neetsocs that complain about the welfare state or "free" stuff they do it just because of shitskins benefiting from it. They in fact love these things or at least consider them positive, they just don't want it to benefit racially distinct people.

In short, stormfags don't ind having half your wage taken away so it can be given to a loser that hasn't had a job in three years because he's playing videogames all day at home... as long as that loser is white and christian.

This is why I find all this "greatest ally" bullshit absolutely outrageous. Nazis have absolutely nothing to offer and no points in common other than the fact they hate leftists too, being they not smart enough to realize they're pretty much for everything leftists defend except for a few superficial issues like identity politics.

Thoughts on this?

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>>126056265
I think they would just say "losers" ought to be punished or executed, their "philosophy" is not one of Liberty.

They can bitch all they want about culture and society, but economic laws and praxeological axioms still exist.

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Wassap my freedom loving Bros.

Libertarian is always right

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>>126056265
Kek its true faggotswe consider free education and healthcare a must in a raciallyy and cultural homogenous society.The fact that it took you this long to realize shows me just how much of dumb faggot you can be....kek.
Also in Germany there was no welfare for lazy fucks if you refused to work you would be assigned a work place and be forced to go.
Also that leddit spacing.....nice.

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>>126056265
Who says were socially liberal? Anyway the point of allying with nationalists is fighting against globalism. Breaking free from the global unions are both of our goals were not gonna be friends forever.

>>126057567
Oh it's the same gypsy from every other thread. Shoo shoo gypsy you're driving down the property values of this thread

>>126056265
I'm only natsoc because I'm pretty sure that if you try to end your central bank and fight the international finance system from your country they will try to come up with a reason to invade you. natsoc has nothing to do with welfare, it is about gearing up for the inevitable war

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We can do physical removal too.

>>126057567
What makes you think Gypsies will be allowed in the ethnostate?

>>126058833
You're the ones being removed my friend.

>>126047663
cia?

>>126057567
It's not free, you retard.

>>126058833
Yeah, removal of my property from my wallet.
Legalise "murdering" communists nao. Deus vult.

>>126056265
On the subject of natsoc enonomy, consider this: since they are proponents of the "white ethnoSTATE", they have no problem with their citizens (white people) being commited violence against by the state in order to sustain it's existence. If you know a little bit about statist economics of course, you realize that the powers that be don't care about the demographic that is supposed to represent the state. The gov't lives at the expense of their own people, not the other way around, This obviously contradicts with the natsoc stance that white people should determine their own fate and pursue their own happiness. The only way this could maybe work is in the case of a benevolent dictator (muh second Hitler), but also then nothing is forever. His successors may be completely opposed to his ideals, or maybe democracy gets restored because of the incompetence of some autocrat. And we all know democracy and cultural marxism go hand in hand.

tl;dr: don't let some corruptable bureaucrat decide over the future of the white race

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>>126059213
Nice adhominem,also what ethnostate i have my country from which gypsys and any other shitskin needs to be purged,kek.Also not an argument faggs.

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bumping for economic mastery

>>126056265
it wouldnt go down like that in NatSoc, at all. The lazy ass playing videogames could survive maybe, sure.. but he'd be stuck at lowest class.
Ideally you have an universal income which is very low, but with which you can survive (barely). Beyond that if you want more $ you need to do something productive. So lazy ass could never afford to have kids and would be wiped from the genetic pool.
Workers would be entitled to this universal income plus their earnings.

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>>126063124
That image is a pretty accurate depiction of these threads.

>>126063320
Anything UBI is insane, even if it is a "very low" one.

This can only be proposed by people that do not understand incentives.

>>126060968
and armed and informed population would ensure no such traitors would ever reach power. A system of tests of aptitude, mental, moral and physical where only the top have a chance of gaining power would be in place.

>>126063661
people don't just work for money. Look at all the great scientists, they didn't invent to sell, but gave away their knowledge for free.

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>>126056265
>they are more often than not "socially conservative and fiscally leftist"
>implying that's bad
You've already sold your ass to the internationalist jewish wall street. What is there more to discuss? Remember to remove borders and taxes they are worst than the holohoax.

>>126063124
>invent bullshit mumbojumbo pseudo-religion to reinforce your economic position using lots of insider-terminology and references to stuff only your fellow believers would even understand
>engage any opponent with pedantry and definition shifting and proofs derived from nothing but your own camps consensus
>exclude anyone who doesnt agree as a valid source

capitalists are literally the left.

>>126063661
you got one extreme, which says "you don't work, you don't eat". It comes straight from the Bible and was applied in communism too.
The other extreme is "you can live at the expense of others", which is cancerous too.
A minimum share of your earning to the community is a fair trade. Such community made you the person you are. It wouldn't just pay for lazy asses to play videogames and fap. Such behaviour would be highly encouraged anyway

>>126064183
I meant discouraged*

>>126056265
To be honest m8, I like palling around with Nazis. I won't help then implement national socialism but they're cool enough to socialize with. I don't wanna be /liberty/ where helicopter discussion is frowned upon and everyone is trying to show how not alt-right they are.

>>126064698
hey, i'm fine with letting you ancaps have your "corporate zone" to play with lawlessness and trade with you.
Just know that your system can't work with banks and/or usury. Oh and jews.

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Anyway, Slovakbro reporting in for life, liberty, and the pursuit of violence against political opponents, so to speak.
Some interesting shit I've dug up:
Augustus Sol Invictus may just be the most interesting guy in the right libertarian sphere. Here's some of his videos.
youtube com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE
youtube com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI
youtube com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI
Very recently, Mike Enoch was on the Radical Agenda, so that's something to check out - also some other videos of his:
youtube com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w - Mike Enoch
youtube com/watch?v=ae_9K26ipZs - Paddy Tarleton
youtube com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU - speech by Cantwell at the Pikeville rally
Also, check out this dank Jew. Fuckin BASED:
rothbard.altervista org/articles/kulturkampf1.pdf - Kulturkampf
rothbard.altervista org/articles/race-murray.pdf - Race! That Murray Book
Carry on, goys.

>>126064963
>Lawlessness
Dude, I'm pretty sure you and I discussed in great detail that ancap is not lawlessness.

>>126061056
Then it'll just be ethnic Romanians suffering from retarded economic policies. Real improvement right there.

>>126063320
>he could never afford kids
What about the fact that a natsoc society will pay you to have kids and will lead to a similar situation to today where you have dregs shitting out like 6 kids and living off the government.

>>126065475
ok good like with your private law enforcers, who will enforce the law of the highest payer, ie the ultra rich

Also, friendly reminder that phisical removal merely means ostracism and social exclusion.

Why waste helicopter fuel when you can just leave commies starve to death?

>>126064128
>international jewish wall street
The Jews are going to kvetch so hard when Bitcoin becomes mainstream. You think they have an interest in freeing the raging bull of the economy? They like the restrictions put in place to not let smaller businesses run by gentiles compete with the Jew-owned large corporations.

>>126065716
Thank you for being so understanding.

>>126063824
Many of them died old and sad and underappreciated. When people don't value charity, you can't afford to be overly charitable. It sucks, but it is what it is.

>>126065694
Well initially having kids would be encouraged with interest free loans to stabilize population since whites are in decline.
You would never be able to have those many kids living off welfare.
The universal income would give workers a chance to climb the economic ladder. There are million of workers stuck at a salary with no saving capacity to invest. With the additional income, smart ones could start business and climb.
Nature would put everyone where they belong anyway.

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>>126065365
Hello Slovakbro!

>>126065716
Is everybody so immoral where you come from?
It's not in the enforcers' best interest to be pawns of the elite when the population is armed to the teeth, so this falls even from Ayn Rand or Stirner's perspectives.

>>126047036

What about IP? Will architects and chip designers starve?

>>126066088
You hit the issue at the head. This is the core of NatSoc. Such individuals would be highly praised and would be at the upper levels of hierarchy, always.
Unlike today where money$$ says where you are in the ladder.
The more you work and sacrifice for your nation and countrymen, the more you climb in NatSoc.

>>126065854
Just to be clear I AM for throwing Marxists from helicopters. If the government threatened to "seize the means of production" you'd probably agree.

>>126066293
look, competing coorporations who care only about profit would be the name of the game. Because in your system everything has a price and its all about money.
So these corps would probably engage in warfare, cyberwarfare and would hire private armies to destroy each other. Conglomerates would form from the joining of most powerful corps. Conglomerates would fight each other for monopoly. The end result would be the most rich and brutal would rule, and that would be the end of your anarchy.
I think you ancaps are either ignorant of history, nature of man, or both.

>>126063691
who would organize the tests and set the standards?

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What is your favourite economic myth? Mine is "Speculation is bad for the economy". Also known as "Speculation makes prices rise". I remember reading Hazlitt's book and I was utterly blown the fuck out when I learnt the truth about how wrong it actually is.

That's the feel when you remember/realize how wrong the common sense can often be.

Can I own a gyrocopter and fly it wherever, whenever and however I like in Ancapistan? I really wanna own a gyrocopter.

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lol

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>>126066144
Great to see you here, Portubro.
Thinking of starting my own pastebin for the general, involving stuff that'll appeal more to the race-realist part of /pol/.

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Property is theft, Aynclaps.

>>126067056
Lovely, I would like that.

>>126047036
>/autism general/

>>126067194
I get you don't believe in property. How can you steal that which not property?

>>126066939
The tests would be done taking into account modern scientific knowledge on biology, anthropology, psychology, sociology. Imagine hundreds of trick questions on how would an individual act on a certain scenario, etc. The individuals who tend to act in self interest would be filtered. Also lie detectors.
These tests would be up online for anyone to do and everyone could show up to be in position of govt in they pass.
The tests would be discussed endlessly by the population and changes suggested. Thats about as democratic as this would go.

>>126067194
>Property is theft, Aynclaps.
Than go open your own coffee shop and quit being a wagecuck

>>126067194
fuck off commie

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>>126067004
Crashing this government.

>>126066433
Any society that does not value its contributors is doomed to fail and rightfully so. Any government intervention against this fact is an act of blasphemy and is unrighteous. You don't have a right to force degenerates not to be degenerate, they deserve what's coming for them, it's God's will.
I'm not saying they shouldn't be charitable if they wish, I'm saying they shouldn't do things for free if they don't want to. Their role is contribution to society and such actions don't come cheap, even from the most refined individuals.
I'd provide hospitality to any countryman who helped advance our great nation. It would be an honor to me to house a great man. However, this makes me a good man too. Men who aren't willing to do it voluntarily should not be granted the same privilege, because they don't deserve it. They'd be dishonest, and it's all because of the government that forced them to perform a service they would have expected monetary payment for.
National Socialism is unjust and unfair to its own citizens whom it claims to represent, better and protect, yet it does the precise opposite.

>>126067498
again, the people who set the criteria are equally corruptable as the autocrats they're supposed to prevent

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>>126067194
>Property is theft
>Theft is stealing property
>But property doesn't exist
>We should steal property which is stealing in itself but also not call it stealing because property is theft.
>PS: We're the good guys, praise Marx.

>>126067498
>The individuals who tend to act in self interest would be filtered.
So everyone gets filtered?

>>126066553
Oh yes, assertive commies all get the heli treatment (unless they happen to be in good health and of good stock, in which case their organs and gametes shall be harvested).

>>126067964
i dont think you understand natsoc. You think there were thousands living off welfare scratching their balls in NS Germany?
The 3rd reich had the biggest employement program ever done by any country. Literally everyone was working

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>>126068136
Slovakia, you really know how to party.

>>126066943
whats the argument

>>126068398
>Literally everyone was working
So was everyone in the USSR. Doesn't mean shit when you're taking from the productive to pay for a bunch of useless government workers.

>>126068118
it would be in their self interest to not act in self interest in order to be in a highly respectable position.
People care more about prestige and social validation than moneyz. It just so happens that money is that which gives you prestige in capitalist societies.
Whereas in natsoc a scientist who worked his ass and gave his patents to the state for mass production of something useful would enjoy more prestige than the rich industrialist who just runs a business for the well being of his family.

>>126068669
This, socialism in all forms is disgenic. Stop subsidizing bad work ethic.

>>126066853
The heads of the corporations are too few. Why should a man fight for their money whan he can fight for himself and all that is his, including his people?
I know for a fact that I would prefer my own over somebody else's own, and I value freedom above all else.
With how laughably easy it is to sabotage the government, if there was economic incentive to engage in endless warfare DIRECTLY (of course, arms companies are delighted to sell their goods as long as the war goes on far away from them), people would already be doing it. In Mexico, it is the case with the cartels, and it used to be the case with the Mafia syndicates as well.
Conglomerates are fractured and they still rely on the blood and sweat of men who are better than them. That's bound to fail, as good men only follow their superiors, and there aren't many superiors to a man hardened by war and swatted around by the free hand of the market, having to put actual effort (both physical and mental) to feed his family and folk. These superiors don't hire mercenaries to create chaos, either.
You're talking out of your ass and describing government while supposedly talking about corporations.

>>126068669
When NatSoc is fully applied the govt isn't funded with taxpayer money. There are no taxes.
The govt prints more money to pay its workers. Its a fiat system under a public owned central bank.
Same with infrastructure, hospitals, schools, illumination, etc. It wouldnt be paid with taxes but money would be printed for these buildings and to pay workers etc. The materials would be bought from private business.

>>126051414
Kek

>>126067003
As long as the property owners don't mind you flying over their property, you should be good. I'd get a walkie-talkie, though.

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>All these Ancap memes
>libertarian general

Libertarians are not AnCaps. Libertarians believe in government

>>126068740
>it would be in their self interest to not act in self interest in order to be in a highly respectable position.
You are aware that's exactly what scummy politicians do today, right? So all you're doing is making sure only the scummiest among them make it.
>Whereas in natsoc a scientist who worked his ass and gave his patents to the state for mass production of something useful would enjoy more prestige than the rich industrialist who just runs a business for the well being of his family.
Oh great he'll get a nice medal. How wonderful. If I remember right Kalashnikov didn't get shit for his contributions. But that's the state for ya.

>>126068833
>socialism in all forms is disgenic
surely not ALL forms, or are you anti-family?

>>126066360

Anyone?...

>>126069006
>The govt prints more money to pay its workers.
Enjoy your hyperinflation then.
>Same with infrastructure, hospitals, schools, illumination, etc. It wouldnt be paid with taxes but money would be printed for these buildings and to pay workers etc.
Jesus christ that's so retarded. Are you the same idiot from the other day that thought national debt comes from central banks?

>>126057733
what the fuck does that say???

my dyslexia is fucking up my eyes with that lettering

>>126069340
I'm not anti family but it's clear if you give your kids everything they turn into spoiled brats. In this case socialism has made the family structure worse.

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>>126068429
Thanks, lad. Here - a photo of a proud Slovak man BTFOing /leftypol/ in 1968.

>>126069006
"The Cultural Consequences of Fiat Money" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAN5CKbZnD0

>>126069225
Cucked ones do.

>Pro-Open Borders
>Pro-Splintered Easily Conquerable Society
>Anti-Nativist
I really fail to see a single attractive thing about Libertarianism in practice.
It's beady-eyed Anglo on steroids with a hefty dose of judaism mixed in.
The biggest thing you've got going for is shit Classic Liberal-Conservatives already give lip service to, bodily autonomy and ever lower taxes.

>>126068898
lol private mercenaries are nothing new and they would be common thing in your ancap hellhole.
With your little to no sense of community because you have no representation, you would be like little tribes spread all over the land each running a different business and trading over a huge and complex market.
Cartels are a good example of how business would run in your ancap. Since there is nothing to enforce legality or illegality, everything would be treated like its cocaine, or like its apples, doesn't matter.
End result, just like nature, the strong and smart would end up ruling, through wealth, but without moral guidelines. No morality.
Thus it would be hell. The rulers need to be of good morals. Morals would be against maximum profit in your ultra capitalism.

>>126068581
You mean about why it's wrong? Speculation is actually beneficial to the economy, as counter-intuitive as it sounds.

Speculation is buying when prices are low and selling when they're high without altering the product, it's just a temporary change of ownership. Then why would it be good? Well, when you buy something you increase the demand for something, making its price go up, and this would in theory be wrong, wouldn't it?

The problem is we're only getting half of the picture here. The speculator later sells the product when prices are higher, increasing offer, which makes prices go down when they got high. In short, the speculator makes the price of something increase when it's too low and decrease when it's too high, stabilizing its price. The speculator is the reason the poor person can buy bread at the same price in January, June and December; despite the fact that wheat is only harvested in one or two months of the year.

Thanks to speculators people who produce seasonal stuff (crops and as such) can sell at a price higher then they would, and the consumer can buy at the same price all the year. Speculation stabilizes prices, he reduces volatility in prices.

>>126069694
the family structure IS socialism

>>126069672
/pol/ politically incorrect.

>>126069225
Then by all means, come join us and debate us on the supposed functions of government.
Really - if you're not taking my money and your sole purpose is protecting the human rights as defined by Locke, a small government is fine in my book.

>>126069225
Ancap is libertarianism in it's purest form

>>126069769
>Open borders
Open borders is an assault on private property. Only faggots believe in open borders.

>>126069739
Private Fiat debt money system of Europe and USA (fractional reserve banking)

is NOT

debt free, State run fiat money system

ok, Belgie?

http://truthforgermans.com/wp-content/uploads/Gottfried-Feder-The-Manifesto-of-Breaking-the-Thraldom-of-Interest.pdf

>>126069807
wow what a load of bull.
speculating is not a market of perfect knowledge or perfect competition.
in other words, its not a free market

>>126068398
The ones who don't want to work and are instead forced to should not work. Because they as persons are bad for society, their mindset is rotten and their ethical system is upside down.

>>126070018
>Only faggots believe in open borders.
Which happens to include a majority of the supposed "Libertarian" movement.
The Leftardism has become increasingly prevalent in recent years (see: Gary Johnson et al) but it was by no means a small group prior to it.

>>126069801
>Thus it would be hell
Well it would be more or less feudalism.
The question is: is feudalism bad?

>>126069828
No, it's not. Socialism prioritises state indoctrination of children from an early age - this is basic-level redpill, go back to plebbit or read 1984 and Brave New World.

>>126070155
Nobody ever claimed things as "perfect knowledge or competition". It doesn't disprove anything though.

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>>126069978
Ancapism is literal academic deadwood. It ended with Hoppe. It's finished.

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>>126065854
I don't think commies need any outside help for starving to death

>>126069606
no interest, no inflation

>>126069828
No not really. The family is very hierarchal. And is my personal investment. How you guys could equate talking care of your family as anything other than one's own biological self interest is retarded. My kids are gonna have to do chores for their pay. And they better get a fucking job and leave the house before mom is to old to fuck.

Family is an investment, not socialism.

>>126070352
>Socialism prioritises state indoctrination of children
not a necessary requirement, but in any case children are always indoctrinated to some degree about social and cultural norms because , well, theyre kids

>>126070180
So? We're not those fags.

Question for all ancaps:
Imagine I am the only one owning a certain ressource that is needed by other people. What stops me from charging ridiculous prices and exploiting my position to my hearts content?

>>126070344
maybe not for medieval ages, but we're in 21st century now, ok my asian friend?

>>126069225
but the conclusion of libertarianism is philosophical anarchism, which is the belief that government authority is invalid. Thus, the only reason the government should exist is if anarchy doesn't work.

>>126070557
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation
Holy fuck. Remove yourself. How does it make sense to you that if you double the amount of money in circulation that prices stay the same? That would only happen if the GDP doubles as well.

how was Hitler able to bring his country from depression to prosperity to the awe of the other nations?

Without gold !

No gold is needed for functioning economy.
If it wasn't for War, the NatSoc economy works.

>>126070684
you have arguments or just
>its 2017

>>126070882
Thats the thing. the GDP grows in proportion to money issued. Thus no inflation
Only possible in central planned economy. Key word: PLAN
Private business just goes and flows where the most profit is. There is no plan.

>>126070946
I agree, fiat can work if the minter is responsible.

>>126070506
KEK

>>126063616
Duterte is like president /pol/.

He's anarchic and chaotic, yet authoritarian. He actually helicopters people (drug dealers), and goes off about globalist conspiracies and jews.

>>126071150
There is a plan. It's just decentralized. More than 1 furher makes the decisions.

>>126070566
is your wife or siblings your personal investment as well? no? is your old father who is too old to work?
>as anything other than one's own biological self interest
ones own biological interest would be the entire family

>>126070091
good luck giving a select group of people the power of printing....whetever fucking amount of money they want

straks ga je nog geloven dat je blank bent ook!

>>126065365
Rothbard, Mises and Ayn Rand are some of the few Jews I actually respect. It's a shame that the modern "right wing Jew" is a degenerate like Milo Yiannopolous.

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Brazil can into libertarianism

>>126071150
Imagine the AMOUNT of useless resources being spent on useless shit because of created needs through media and advertisement. Resources which could be spent in actual useful things for society and whites as a whole.
Thats the result of your capitalism and not planning your economy.
Stuff that lasts half year on purpose so you buy more. Endless waste.

>>126070673
The cold, hard reality of getting lynched in the street. The NAP won't save you, and nobody will mourn you.
Land and all of its resources are not private property. You only own what you extract from it, you don't own what's in the ground.

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>>126071150
>Thus no inflation
>Only possible in central planned economy.
Go read Road to Serfdom or something. I'm done discussing this non-sense.

>>126071395
Only that which the Nation demands, for the advancement of our People.

>>126064183
The rule is: you must work for your bread.

Charity wisely suspends the rule in certain situations.

Welfare makes a new rule: others must work for my bread.

>>126070420
it must be necessarily free market in order to achieve a free market derived outcome brp

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what is stopping me from becoming a successful entrepreneur, then forming a secret society in your Libertarian country, and using subtle propaganda techniques to sway the masses and rule you through a tyranny of the majority which I actually control?

>>126071492
Yeah, you keep being so bipolar in your thinking.
Post war economics have taken over most minds.

NatSoc =\= Venezuela

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8

>>126066943
Minimum wage helps the poor or the "greed" of Capitalism. Also Hazlitt's fallacies on politicians only seeing one side of the coin and not looking at the effects a policy will have on multiple people.

>>126067056
Go for it my man. You got J.P. Rushton, Charles Murray, Nicholas Wade and Michael Levin as good sources. Oh and Edward C. Banfield and his "The Unheavenly City."

>>126066360
intellectual property?

>>126071352
Yes, I want to further my genetics. Me "gifting" resources to people I care about is not socialism.

It is my interest not to abandon my elders.
Does that trigger you? You need some Rand in your life. Selfishness can seem selfless.

>>126070946
>>126071154
You rely an awful lot on people over scarcity. Not saying it's impossible for fiat to work, but it requires responsibility after responsibility after responsibility in the people in charge. Spice things up with an open currency system and you won't stay in business if your currency is unfavourable.

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>>126071423

>>126071861
Exactly, decentralized banking best banking.

>>126071416
Yeah, it's sad. He even has the nerve to call himself a "cultural libertarian" - that's a contradiction in terms. Us libertarians are the real racists, DR3 is a meme.

>>126071280
He's the official Presidente of the Vandal Nationalist movement, I'll give you that much.

>>126071605
It is prefered to do away with brainless, mechanic work which puts the mind of men in a material chain of suffering.
The purpose of life used to be spiritual discovery, not work your ass off then live off pension.
Other areas can progress when people have free time to think, meditate, and just generally not be stressed.
Still, most would earn their bread in NatSoc, not live off welfare.

>>126071812
Yes

>>126071446
That is what I am thinking. In reality you will get killed like all the kings and emperors who thought they could push their people as far as they want without any backlash because the law is on their side. But starving people don´t care for the law.

But a system that has no way of preventing such a situation from happening is inherently flawed imo. This seems to me like one of the arguments why ancapsism would never work. Such a scenario would crash it.

>>126069769
Go to Rothbard's Wikipedia page and take a look at just how anti-nativist and "progressive" he was kek

>>126071841
so youre agreeing with me when i say the family unit is socialist in nature
just because you dont like socialism as a state function doesnt mean socialism at the familial or tribal level isnt good, or natural

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>>126071950
holy shit

>>126071150
Private business follows profits because profits mean that people favour you and your products.
The best way to "plan" an economy is to follow the market, and since the planners gotta eat, it's already more costly than laissez-faire.
Besides, planning is for commies. Are you a commie?

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>>126047036
Join Anticommunist Action.
https://jamesconey.wixsite.com/rightwingpatchsquad/join-anticom

>>126071572
you need some Mises in your life

>>126071428
Shit isn't useless if people are buying it. Not everybody wants their work to define them, thus consumer goods. Though I do agree that a return to traditional values is a good step towards a more sustainable liberty.

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Fuck Communism.
Fuck Capitalism.
Fuck Anarchy.

Heil Hitler

>>126072199
I don't agree that caring for others, and even giving them resources is socialism. I'm not getting payed back right away so it might seem Socialistic, but the truth is that I expect a return for my investment.

>>126070557
Interest is a lender's reward for having a lower time preference than the person he lends to. He's forfeiting his money for risk and uncertainty, and so asks for a premium. Nothing wrong with it.

>>126072582
you can tell a brainlet a mile away like yourself when they still fall for their own side's propaganda

>>126071720
Your lack of Jewish genes, my dear goy friend.
c|:^)*

>>126072582
NutSac is just the slightly less cancerous version of communism

>>126072716
>only Jews do this

google Secret Societies. They exist everywhere

>>126070673
No one will buy from you and everyone will hate you. Also good luck controlling an entire stock worth of resources. Give us realistic arguments instead of "what if I own all of X?"

>>126072582
>social programs
>nationalisation of corporations
>>>/leftypol/

>>126071789
That Guy T is like the DANK black guy in a Trump hat, but multiplied by 1488 and fueled by Yakub's magic. Wouldn't be surprised if he outright joined the Hoteps.

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>>126072706
>lolbertarian calling anyone a brainlet
lmao

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>>126056265
Maybe, but at least Neetsocs want white people (my family) to exitst... Socially liberal is cucked anyway.

You guys are such cucks

>>126071805
Been itching to read Banville's book since I heard of it in Hoppe's Democracy: tGtF
>>126072121
I think that's all true but any system but AnCap would be more wasteful and lead to less leisure time overall

>>126072683
>I'm not getting payed back right away so it might seem Socialistic, but the truth is that I expect a return for my investment.
if it isnt a monetary return, its socialist

What are you libcucks view on race

>>126071958
can't have usury if the goyim will outprice the jews
>le smug negro tapping his forehead

>>126072691
All good if he earned the money he's lending.

Hint: modern banking creates money, doesn't just "lend".

>>126072582
>nationalisation of corporations
how's Venezuela goin?

post pic with a weapon - speaks about peace ... kebap is that you ?

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>tfw went on reddshit's libertarian board and got reminded why Libertarians are mostly scum
>ethnic nations are badwrongfun and evil™
>laughing about ethnic replacement as if they were a CNN employee
>whining about Trump and "structural racism"

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>>126072353
Will do, if you're ever operating in my neck of the woods I'd help you bash commies. Also thanks for using my artwork, I love seeing people with stickers on their riot gear.

>>126072182
No way of preventing?
Like I said, you'd be killed. Ultimately, Stirner is right about the universal inner workings of humanity. I know it's mean, but it is what it is.

>>126073117
the ancap and physical removal leddits are ok
the libertarian leddit is left-libertarian cancer though

>>126072937
ancap would be the most wasteful since there would be no regulation of what products are put in the market. A simple trending could spike mass production of a useless crap, and days after when the fad is passed they're stuck with tons of unsellable, worthless junk.

>>126072937
Me too that's why I mentioned it. Maybe The Quest for Community by Robert Nisbet or one of the several other books he mentions are also of our interest. For example Kingship and Law in the middle ages by Fritz Kern pretty much expands on the whole social contract between monarchs and the citizens. And then you have J.C. Fuller's book on monarchical wars vs. democratic wars, and Michael Howard's book, which I have and is quite good.

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>>126073037
we're race realists.

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>>126072353
Hey can I have a link to your discord I was there when it was first starting up just took a small vacation.

I gave my idea for Wisconsin ANTICOM patch

>>126073084
I agree. I want a 100% gold reserve or similar commodity displacing fractional (((reserve banking))) which is fraud.

>>126072149
well intellectual property as it is nowadays is totally arbitrary and it ruins competition, so stuff like patents probably wouldn't exist in a libertarian society. That said nothing would stop a company to get people to sign non disclosure agreements before working with them and counterfeit goods would be prohibited too.

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>>126072948
I suggest you read some Austrian Economics. You take actions because you expect to be satisfied after those actions. That is capitalism, that is anarchy.

>>126072817
They will if they have no choice. And I don´t have to own all of a certain ressource, it´s enough that it would be even more expensive to acquire otherwise. Imagine I own the only well on a tiny poor island or something.

It is not about one specific scenario though. There are finite ressources and if for some reason there is no way for sufficient competition to take place your entire system will implode.

bump fuck nazis, commies, and liberals

>>126073037
Race doesn't exist, there is only one race; the white race.

The rest are property.

In this both capitalism and communism agree: your life is to work your ass, earn your money, invest it if you're smart, and leave a good legacy.
Only in communism the state would keep your legacy.
This is known as materialism.

NatSoc purpose is to free man from this mindset, and aim for higher spiritual values.

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Question for the Anarcho-Capitalists here:

Assuming the theoretical Marxist society was achieved (that is, a Stateless, classless society where the workers own the means of production in a post-scarcity economy) would you fight it or embrace it since the State is now gone?

>Note that in Marxist theory, 'private property' is defined as any institution owned by a boss used to accrue capital (e.g. a factory, a coffee shop, a supermarket), not just anything you own

>>126073763
go back to your nazi threads fucktard

>>126073572
Bullshit.
Even socialists believe their actions have some kind of net social benefit.
If it isnt monetary, its socialist

>>126073512
Problem is (((they))) have always controlled gold.

I'ts their religion and they rejoiced when they could make it the default economy. I bet they're salivating over the thought of returning to gold standard, butthey do like this fractional banking too.

>>126073614
It is precisely because resources are scarce that they must be privately owned. It's the only way humans can rationally and efficiently allocate them. Read up Mises's critiques on the Socialist Calculation Problem, he had already BTFOed commies in the 1920s, and the "intellectuals" conceded the defeat. What you're describing is an irrational and inefficient way of managing resources under, I presume, an AnCap social order, but having a statist or socialist (whether nationalist or internationalist) social order would institutionalize your theoretical lifeboat scenario into a mundane reality regarding every scarce good.

>>126072582
>equal rights
Lemme guess, people who don't own property/haven't served in the military get a vote?
Fucking blasphemy and suicide is all that is.
Also,
>Personal enrichment from war should be a crime. The state should confiscate all war profits, so they can be used for the good of the people.
So soldiers who've risked life and limb and the people who paid them don't have more of a right to the spoils of war than those who sat home? Good motivation, dude. I'm sure that'll be very popular.

>>126073614
>Imagine I own the only well on a tiny poor island or something.
Why wouldn't that community just form a mutual organization?
Also
http://www.iadb.org/res/publications/pubfiles/pubS-233.pdf
>Using the variation in ownership of water provision across time and space generated by the privatization process, we find that child mortality fell 5 to 7 percent in areas that privatized their water services overall; and that the effect was largest (24 percent) in the
poorest areas.

>>126072809
Alright, Schlomo Herschelstein-Blattberg.

>>126073210
By that standard every system in the world would be capable to prevent deasaster. Communist dictators also need to be careful not to get lynched. But as history teaches us men in power will abuse it until they come crashing down.

If your system can only solve its problems by collapsing and through violent revolution it is not a very good one. And by that point you also have given up on all principles of ancapism. Because in your theory the consumer would just have to accept it and maybe even die without acting against you in a manner that violates the NAP.

>>126073407
>what pol thinks we are
a bunch of gentiles
>what we actually are
a bunch of jews

ok, got it

>>126073210
>>126073386
>>126073407

Hey dudes, care to throw in your 2 cents on this >>126066360

>>126073993
That's because socialism is unnatural. Capitalism is human nature. Even literal communists would be upset if you took their food, even tho they don't believe in property.

Capitalism is separate from finance, read about it or just bitch about it. I don't care.

>>126072888
I'm sure brainlets and inferior people would advocate for nobody leeching off of anyone. That would be really beneficial for them, wouldn't it? It's not like they would starve in the streets, or is it?

>>126073870
I'd buy myself a chopper on the black market and deal with you fucks.

>>126072899
>t. "man" who can't be assed to make his own decisions
>>126073037
We're the real racists. Libertarianism is whiter than whipped cream.

>>126056265
>implying social conservatism is irrelevant

The reason you lolbertards always fail and collapse the instant you get a hit of power is because you are oblivious to the social glue that holds society together. You ignore the Jews infecting our society with their filth and advocate a fiscal system than strengthens them. You don't care about race, you don't care about monogamy, you don't care about the less fortunate, you don't care about usury, you don't care about drugs, you don't care about faggotry and the disease it spreads, you don't care about perverse and disgusting kike media destroying our children. The only thing you care about is hoarding your money to spend on your degenerate habits. You are a subhuman kike-apologist, a nigger-loving fornicator. On top of that you're a greedy miser who truly belongs in a death camp.

>>126073117
>going on reddit
>being surprised that it's cancer
You've been here all summer, haven't you?

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>>126073967
You're talking to the headmaster of /lrg/. Have some humor , cuckboi.

>>126074491
>multiculturalism
>not jewish
why are you here

>>126074602
Some ancaps are pro-IP, some are not. I think copyright via contract is morally permissible. In tandem, people will need to develop methods to protect the designs and functions of their products, and are incentivised to put out new designs as opposed to stagnating old ones at risk they are leaked.

By the way, aren't chip manufacturers already sort of protected by the massive technological capital needed to produce their products?

>>126074224
>>126074385
You are missing my point. If only one scenario occurs where competition is not possible it will break the system. There is no way around it.

>>126073305
There's no regulation that's gonna stop every shit product, businesses failing do that
>>126073386
Also Jouvenal! HHH's citations are a pastebin unto themselves

>>126074629
Socialism at the tribal level is human nature, capitalism at the societal level is also human nature.
This order has been in effect since primordial times.

>>126074800
Well.. this in a nutshell, though I tried being civic with these anarchists.

They are autists worshiping $

>>126074934
I still remember Warhammer Wednesdays on /b/.
Reddshit is just the only Libertarian discussion board of note.

>>126047036
Dixie did nothing wrong

>>126074027
No my friend it's the other way around. They got everyone off the gold standard because gold used to be 100% backed by bank titles to it. They only rejoiced when Nixon got the US completely off the gold standard in '71. Without a tangible, scarce and difficult to counterfeit commodity money like gold, banks can just claim a monopoly on money and turn on the printing machines. If banks didn't have a legal monopoly on paper money and everyone were free to issue their own fiat paper currency the marginal revenue of each note would approximate zero as the marginal cost of production of each note also reached zero. In other words, the market would be flooded with worthless paper currencies that costed zero to make and rendered zero purchasing power. This is why (((central banks))) have a monopoly, so they can artificially keep the value of their own paper currencies high through legal tender laws. In contrast, a commodity money like gold keeps its value or is actually deflationary, lest someone discovers a huge ore or mine, but even then the amount of gold in the world is finite and a 100% reserve system would ensure a stable currency. Hoppe has a very good lecture on this, look it up on YouTube. Jews pushed for the confiscation of gold so they could hoard it themselves and keep us goyim on worthless paper money.

>>126074800
>you don't care about x
Ad hom. Stop painting us as the bad guys to justify your unreasonableness.

>>126075023
It's usually capitalism that deals with scarcity best. So let's hear about this mythical scenario.

>>126074455
Are you so socially retarded that you actually don't think secret societies are made by any other race?

Even with the actual Illuminati was made by white people?

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>tfw thread is only ever dead or pic related

>>126075095
We disagree on terminology. So what? feeding my kids doesn't make me a socialist it makes me a responsible market actor.

>>126075023
If the market failed in that regard, no government would fare better that's for sure.

>>126048246
Could the bioshshock storyline be real? Could it be possible to do so much science without any regulation that we create a monster?
(yes, I know Fontaine was basically a communist and fucked over Andrew through mafia and crime.)

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>>126075224

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>>126074629
nod an argubend

>>126074491
Rockwell and Hoppe are not Jews, and Rothbard got called a Nazi gas chamber leader by lefties.
These men fight (past tense for Rothbard, pour ya 40 out for the homie) for the White man's world.
The men on the left are all gentiles and that's their main redeeming quality (McAfee has good bantz at least). They are weak in comparison.

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Again, Libertarians and Ancaps

what is to stop me and a group of other successful businessmen from forming a secret society and subtly using propaganda to rule over you by controlling the will of the majority and deciding what their tyranny is?

>>126075015
Well thats the problem, if there's no IP protection there's no incentive for innovation. There needs to be a system of laws and law enforcement which basically means a state.

And chip designers are different from chip manufacturers. See ARM vs TSMC.

>>126075227
Yes, and they keep hoarding the gold today 'cause they intend to return to gold standard in the future.
Under they system, even if backed by gold they can print money related to a % of their gold reserves. So they would just increase and increase gold reserves until their currency is king of the world. Since this system would most likely be adopted worldwide, the end result would be centralization of all wealth on (((their))) hands, just as their prophecies state. Since money = power that means they could turn to ultra global communism in the blink of an eye.
Get it?

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>>126075026
Yes indeed. And Guglielmo Ferrerro's book Peace and War also sounds nice. I love the quote of pic related. Spencer McCallum's book is also supposed to be amazingly red pilled.

>>126073870
The state is simply a monopoly on force and law.
It doesnt matter how post scarcity your tech base is, someone will still come along and kick your shit in if they can

>>126075378
tbqh there's too many books to read to have interesting discussions about that but yeah circular arguments gets pretty annoying after a while

>>126073243
Ancap board seems almost identical if you look through the immigration posts, just with more echo-posting and memes.

>>126056655
Hmm, isn't that just great. Get a job or get gulag.

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Has anyone else here read Mencken? Will there ever be anyone else like him?

>>126071150
>there is no plan

correct, there are thousands upon thousands of competing plans testing each other for relevance and durability.

>>126075721
> by controlling the will of the majority and deciding what their tyranny is?
That's for the Democratic libertarians here
In ancapistan nobody gives a shit about what the majority thinks

>>126075557
It is natural tho. You can't not act, even if you decide to stay in bed you're acting on your decision.

Learn 2 argumentation ethics bro!

>>126073629
>>126073967
Aaaand he's cucking.
This is why people don't like us.

>>126075433
That doesnt even make sense.
There is no such thing as responsible market acting except to make profit legally and conpetitively

>>126075672
Ok I respect them, then. As I stated, I wouldnt mind observing an AnCap society in a designated zone, as long as you're not hostile with us.
Would be an interest experiment on human nature and behaviour.

>>126073870
I'd sharpen my ice pick.

>>126075935
>In Ancapistan, nobody gives a shit about what the majority thinks

man is not an antisocial animal or autistic. He socializes and forms communities which exclude things which the groups find socially undesirable.

>>126075918
relevance does not always mean usefulness

it is an inefficient system

>>126075750
>they intend to return to the gold standard
Dellusional. They're trying to outlaw physical cash so then all they have to do is add zeros on the computers and keep riding on our stupidity. If the NWO ever collapses, gold and silver will be worth a lot more than FED notes or any central bank notes. Don't blame gold, blame Goldstein.

>>126047036
That image would be better without the 'How 'bout you' part

>>126076002
This, I'm tired of shitlibs virtue signaling how anti-nazi they are. It's just gay homes.

>>126076097
Sure but there aren't the majority can do Jack shit except consumming because they have no political power
Also nothing would stop the ressurection of the Klan (the lobby part,not the raiding one,except nogs nogging)

>>126074463
If a bad situation arises, the Natural Order comes into play. It's not part of AnCap, but let's be real - your scenario wouldn't happen, since you can't really own water in the ground and air in the athmosphere.

>>126075286
>ad-hom

And calling natsocs Marxist gib-grabbers isn't? You known that's a BS strawman but you continue to do it anyway.

>>126073870
post scarcity is a meme, who cares about what could happen in the head of a guy dead 100 years ago. Value is subjective, every human value different things differently and it's also relative to the technological level we live in, read a book nigger

>>126076025
Profit could be more than that. When I watch TV it's because I expect a "profit" (satisfaction) of being entertained.

Man, Economy, and state. Read it.

>>126075756
>wars scarcely affected the masses
Wow such bullshit.
One only needs to look at the muslim or mongol invasions to prove that totally false

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>>126076444
You don't need political power to govern people's lives.

Even your own literature 'On Liberty' by John Stuart Mills says the two tyrannies that exist are that from the government and that from the tyranny of the majority, the latter being the most pervasive because it permeates your everyday life more than any law can.

You know, this only confirms the stereotype of Libertarians and Ancaps being socially autistic and that is why they want to be left alone.

>>126076239
Well thats the ideal, but not realistic goal. People will fight against that, and a movement to return to gold standard will appear (plan B). Its already in the makings..

>>126076702
>a profit of being entertained
Hahahahahahahaha

>>126074800
Literal falsehoods, you lying kike. You got your cozy little flaps on your eyes and your cozy little earmuffs to ignore reality better. It's not worth debating with you PRECISELY because you reject what we claim and pretend our message is entirely different.

Okay, I'm new to this ideology:
How do you prevent degeneracy from happening?
I fully support free market, but I also believe that protectionism is kind of necessary, especially for harsh alcohol, drugs, cigs.

>>126075099
Nice self-fellatio, nigger. You're getting ground up into concrete and used to build roads to then be destroyed in a performance art project about the idiocy of Keynes, who was a faggot, mind you.

>>126076812
Care to make a thoughtful case against that? Bitches just don't get that economics is human action.

But actually and in all seriousness, how does ancap/libertarianism combat degeneracy? What is the libertarian plan?

>>126056265
The fiscal leftism had always been out there to get votes. Though not a real fiscal conservative, Hitler did purge all of the genuinely left wing economically guys during the Night of the Long Knives.

In any event, you'll never get a libertarian country without first purging it of shitskins. And collective action relies on social capital which only comes about in racially homogenous counties.

>>126075369
>t. Chaim Shekelburger
But seriously, I'm just shitposting here. If your activity is found out, you're getting a helicopter ride.

>>126076968
don't tolerate it on your property

>>126076708
Their problems,if they eat up bullshit I would try to prove my point and do my "spooky Illuminati meeting" too. if there are no monopoly, there would be no conformism

>>126076751
Alternatively, we have crypto like bitcoin which will invariably get more popular as the NWO is on its last breath. And the best thing is that you can't control it.

>>126077045
Theoretically, you impose good morality through the tyranny of the majority AKA culture which can exclude and include people and lifestyles.

However, with absolutely no government, you'll have hidden government who use subtle propaganda to bend the way people think and they can just override that. It can be done in such a way that people don't even know they're being manipulated.

Check out the book 'Propaganda' by Edward Bernays.

>>126077184
> If your activity is found out, you're getting a helicopter ride.
News at 11! Local man found to meet with his friends regularly behind closed doors! Autistic screeching can be heard nationwide!

Yeah looks like no one needs to worry about you being a revolutionary leader for your own opinions, lmao. You need laws to ban secret societies, and even then they don't go way. They're SECRET for a reason, dumb dumb.

>>126076031
Don't respect them just because they're gentiles. That sort of logic makes me side with Common Filth, and I hate having to side with him.

>>126077026
Yes, wet dream awake little anarchist..

You will die from a heart attack while the govt is confiscating the money you gained from your ring of imported male sexual prostitutes, who you treated with the utmost disgust and forced into sexual submission.

>>126077199
yeah nah, your'e just autistic

You're trying to convince me that no one would be bothered if I ran around naked with a buttplug and a fleshlight just hanging casually off my penis

>>126076443
Right? And it's not just us.
>>126076444
This guy thinks the Klan's lobbying is bad. Shiggy.

>>126077430
You bet your ass if digital/crypto becomes the system, it will be backed by gold.
They'll merge their two wet dreams into one.

>>126077815
Oh and it'll be centralized, but will not appear so

>>126077720
>secret societies can only rule through lobbying

haha holy shit.

Again, you're so dumb no one needs to worry about you becoming a revolutionary leader of any opinions you hold.

You're just another opinionated autist.

>>126077603
No, I respect them cause they are gentiles and smart enough to make a good point about a certain ideology. Looks like they developed their theories. Smart people do that.

>>126077815
>memecoins and gold will merge.

>>126077513
Of course, you're getting helicoptered if you've been found to cooperate with communists.

>>126077034
Economics is more than human action, it is describes the rational framework behind human decisions and their outcomes. But thats not the topic.
Its meaningless to talk about profit from a subjective pov. While this might be (barely) adequate as a descriptor of human motivation, it does not fall into any kind of -ism. By necessity any rational believes his chosen actions will be "profitable" given this description, regardless of his ideology or reasons.
In other words, its circular bullshit, stop buying into it

>>126077188
This doesn't address the society as a whole.
I like the idea that I'm the law on my property, but that's not how society works.

>>126078096
>everyone I don't like is a Communist

Where does this come from?

>am a capitalist
>run a big fashion company
>friends in my secret society are also capitalist entrepreneurs
>decide we want to push people's thinking in a certain way
>we have our products, advertising, spokespeople, and celebrities who use our products do certain things to set the narrative for everyone else to think something is ok and normal
>do it so subtly that it doesn't stand out as bad or weird

We just rule you. There is no communism involved, brainlet

>>126077682
I REALLY don't want to post dead German soldiers.
I REALLY don't.
But I feel like I should. You've lost before, let's leave it at that.
I frown upon degenerate homosexuals and I would not tolerate them in my vicinity. I also frown upon "people" who realise they're too stupid to make their own decisions.

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>>126078200
Agreed, the whole point of opposing degeneracy is that it's the broken windows policy of the soul.
It seems to me like having no restriction against it will inevitably result in society turning back into what it is now.

>>126048246
No

t. Man in Washington

>>126078427
>I frown upon degenerate homosexuals and I would not tolerate them in my vicinity.
Oh? And what will you do if there are homos in our Ancap community?

Violate their NAP with threats? Oh look, tyranny of the majority which that other guy was claiming didn't exist.

>>126077815
Okay I was trying to make actual arguments but you're just a fruitcake. No amount of Hoppe will cure you, only a helicopter ride.

>>126078427
exactly, you think like a jew

good little goy..

>>126077861
And you call us wet dreamers and autists. You're delusional. I'd threaten to skullfuck you, but I'll pass just in case stupidity is an STD. You're so far left on the bell curve, the mean white IQ would go up five points if you tried to execute your fantasy.

>>126077694
>You're trying to convince me that no one would be bothered if I ran around naked with a buttplug and a fleshlight just hanging casually off my penis

On the contrary inbred retard from the rural area,fucking quadroon tinfoil faggot who dance on negro music do you know your fucking native language except ebonics ?
With your "Rich NWO will control us if we believe in freedom Zomg" you imply that nobody would resist against your Satanic-superhuman-evil-rich-dudes (which I said that nothing would stop us going against them)as much as a guy who dance nacked on the streets stop projecting or learn english son a Bois-de-Boulogne hooker

>>126048246
No

t. Man in Moscow

any propertarians up in here?

>>126078001
Fair enough.

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>>126078110
>By necessity any rational believes his chosen actions will be "profitable" given this description, regardless of his ideology or reasons.

Yes, you're basically quoting Rothbard btw. This is the Austrian method. Also for memes sake may I remind you that arguing for any political philosophy other that Austrian Libertarian Anarchism results in a performative contradiction.

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>>126076598
There's a natsoc in this very thread arguing how gibs are fine as long it's whites getting them.

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>>126048246
>>126049644
>>126075454
>>126051229
>>126078527
Libertarians are nine year olds confirmed.

>>126078568
we shall see who gets thrown from the helicopters

you anarchists and commies have always been allies. Look at the First and Second International.

You are just hipster commies to us. Only difference is commies run your capitalism through the state.

I want to binge on ancap/libertarian lectures, give me good ones to watch

>>126077913
Can't lobby if there's no government.
They're free to control their own territory, but if they go against the principles of Locke, they're getting the airborne oven.

>>126067194
up is down
black is white
yes is no
left is right

>>126078699
>With your "Rich NWO will control us if we believe in freedom Zomg" you imply that nobody would resist against your Satanic-superhuman-evil-rich-dudes (which I said that nothing would stop us going against them)as much as a guy who dance nacked on the streets stop projecting or learn english son a Bois-de-Boulogne hooker

No one is resisting them now, are they? You will never awaken 300+ million people.

Even then, the next generation will be just as human and therefore just as susceptible to being manipulated and NOT EVEN KNOWING IT.

Holy fuck Libertarians are so dumb.

>>126078916
>lobby

see >>126078375

to manipulate the culture, you alter it. the government doesn't create culture

>>126078544
do you know people doing whatever they want imply they can discriminate fags or you're pretending being a nigger ? I felt like talking with an Algerian

>>126078834
Well if you agree with that premise, then you would suppose that even communists make "profits" through marxist revolution

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Hello
Can I get a quick rundown of what y'all get up to here?

>>126078375
People can smell this shit a mile away at this point, even normies (especially normies).
Certain behaviour can be prohibited from communities - nothing wrong with this, I'd take advantage of it.

>>126079140
Yes.

>>126078684
Whatever Slovakia. Go live in a cave free from society and authority.

>>126079088
People can do anything they want.

If they discriminate a person for being XYZ when the community they live in doesn't, they're labeled as a dick and ostracized.

If they discriminate a person for being XYZ and the community does as well, they're a normal community member.

That's how it's always worked. Man is a social animal, not a friendless weirdo like you.

>>126079211
So everyone makes profits!
Economics is bunk