INTEL ANON WAS RIGHT, TCP/IP ACCESS TO ANY IPHONE

>>119416210
If true, this means the CIA/any org has complete and total access to intercepting any Wi-Fi communications on the phone, and running scripts on the Wi-Fi chip (potentially bugging the microphone and uploading data to outside servers).

These types of events would be untraceable by the actual iOS software.

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oh boy here comes the fucking slide

bump for justice

And they'll just keep doing it. Not like anyone will stop them.

>>119417444
Oh me and my big mouth ._.

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Wow the slide is real.

hold the line goys and bump this thread

Welp.

What about AMD?

Bumping with my iPhone

>>119417444

checked

>>119416210
I wonder if AMD went down this path.

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We're done for, anons. We're gonna be taken to the camps, I can feel it.

>>119416210
>mfw I posted in that epic bread

So many shills trying to deny/deflect the fact that Intels ME can and will give backdoor access

>>119418476
>>119418392
https://libreboot.org/faq.html#intel

Looks like AMD is also hit.

Thank you jews for being such wonderful people!

>>119418392
AMD FX series should be safe

This conspiracy theory is flimsy. The evidence is scant. Don't believe anonymous posts on 4chan all the time

>>119418955
>Thank you jews for being such wonderful people!
This. I mean, really. Why do we put up with these people and their semitic cousins bringing their ancient hatreds into our nations? We don't have to, you know.

>>119419218
It's not just on here, AMD has this service for remote access to help customers with "problems". Google "Intel Management Engine" and see for yourself, in theory the screenshot is correct, it can act as a backdoor, it cannot be disabled by the user either. Why can't you disable this feature if it's just for customer support?

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>>119416210

bump, i remember

>>119419380
Oh hi there boatfag, you're in Tuvalu? You're leading the invasion finally?

>>119419459
Sorry

>Intel has this service for remote access
Sleepy as fuck right now.

>>119418955
>libreboot

That piece of software has been co-opted by a transsexual transfeminist. He/she/it even broke away from the Free Software Foundation due to stupid identity politics.

All the devs have since moved to LibreCore. Libreboot is obsolete.

>>119419520
Yes, the /pol/ navy is on island time.

Hardware backdoor needs firmware to utilise it.

>>119418392
The only thing that is safe is a specific motherboard from this obscure company that mostly sold to the government.
Even non-functional laptops go for thousands.

Not gonna lie, former PC user here...

>>119416210
Don't use wifi then.

>>119418583
At least we'll be in interesting company

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>purchasing phones
>purchasing smart phones
>purchasing apple products
>purchasing apple smart phones

you normals and goddamned phoneposters deserve it

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>>119416210

bump

>>119419645
Godspeed!

>>119419595
Trying to see if AMD is fucked and I think it is.

>>119419784
There's many ways they can deliver firmware, fuck TV's can have their firmware upgraded remotely via satellite, computers are fucked, especially since those recent wikileaks about the CIA using malware to cuck everyone's shit up.

Not to mention your average computer user is likely to buy a pre built machine with a shit load of software loaded on it already.

Scary man, I'm spooky spooked. Hold me.

>>119418583
>>119420162

The enforcers of the police state will probably castrate all males and break your fingers
doubt that company matters

>>119416210
Underrated. Bump.

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At least we'll have a safe OS with no backdoor. Ian Murdock is keeping Debian free of guvment backdoors.

wait.... what?

Oh, he died under really weird circumstances at age 42. That's a shame.

https://techcrunch.com/2015/12/30/debian-creator-ian-murdock-dead-at-42/

http://archive.is/x9YCw

>>119419877
Start using a Raspberry Pi, ARM shouldn't have this shit built into it?

>>119420253
some of us choose to live in the [current century]
not everyone likes living like sandniggers

the smart devices are not the problem. it's the jews that infiltrate and corrupt them

>>119416210
I have my doubts, if this was true how come the US government isn't overthrowing every shitty government, how come every American company isn't winning in innovation? I mean there's so much wrong that TCP/IP connectivity via any OS can have effect on computers. There's no fucking way in hell a PC can be instantly be working when is off, specially when its disconnected from any electric outlet.

If this was real a lot of shit will blow out of proportion.

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>apple and intel
im not surprised at all

>>119420840
The processor in a Raspberry pi uses closed source firmware "blobs"... potential backdoor.

>>119421681
Really? For crying out loud... Why are they all so jewy?

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This thread is for libertarians only. If you lean towards NatSoc then you would want/need this tech to keep track of degeneracy in your society.

The NatSoc argument for this existing is -hopefully the "right people" in government would be in control of this.

What are you nerds going to do besides cry about it on an Albanian finger painting site?

>>119421867
Cry and autistically screech.

>>119421818
they do have more secure linux builds for it. There's a kali linux build

>>119421148
Brah, dat should be a 16/16... Do you even magic?

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>>119416210
The claims made by "intel ME" can be made by literally anyone who's ever looked at a recent intel cpu spec sheet.

It's pretty much like stating "one can look through windows and the intelligence community makes use of this!"

>>119422244
I run Kali on a live persistent USB, but still, you plug it into a machine that has this backdoor (every fucking machine) and (((they))) have access to.

Fuck this is annoying.

>>119421830
>hopefully govt uses power for good
Every non-libertarian philosophy in a nutshell

>>119416210
bump

>>119422244
>they do have more secure linux builds for it. There's a kali linux build

topkek

>>119422474
You stick to Linux cinnamon.

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>>119422422

Tell me anon, when did you last audit Kali's source code? Did you compile your version yourself? If so do you know the compiler's code? Has that been audited?

>Believing in uncompromised software in the current year.

MFW

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>>119420982
>the smart devices are not the problem. it's the jews that infiltrate and corrupt them
Why do you think the tech was developed?

>>119422330
>"one can look through windows and the intelligence community makes use of this!"

>>>/x/

How will this impact me and regular jack offs like me that aren't important, pay taxes and aren't Muslim? Without resorting to tinfoil bullshit hurr durr femanist camp durr.

>>119422961
>Why do you think the tech was developed?

Financial profit.

>>119422929
I'll have to do a clockmed on it and solder my own CPU's and make my own operating system won't I?

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Access to everything. Obama 1 year ago: http://www.activistpost.com/2016/03/iphone-just-the-beginning-obama-just-announced-he-wants-a-backdoor-to-everything.html

>>119423188
Considering you post here, you're probably already on a list. ;)

casual bump

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>>119423210
Embrace exhibitionism.

>>119423285
An illegal list that will not impact me. I'm not a turrist. Regular jack offs aren't the main focus. Big players are. You're not a big player.

>>119416210

Apple announced they are going to start making their own propertitary chips for their phones already.

>>119421148
Apple has made a strong marketing reputation for privacy and security, especially with their entire Touch ID having a dedicated chip and "secure enclave".

If Apple was knowingly putting exploitable chips in their device, it would be detrimental to their brand. This also might be why Apple has rejected putting Intel CPUs for their iPhones/iPads/MacBook Airs and decided to use their own ARM processors.

My phone already has a RAT on it. I don't know how to get rid of it and I don't really give a fuck.

>>119423871
They already create their own processors, this exploit is within the Wi-Fi module, which has its own capability to run code/firmware updates.

>>119423887
Apple also prided itself on hard honest adult workers. Turns out they were using children in Chinese sweatshops and had suicide nets outside their factories.

>>119423638
I don't have a choice do I?

>>119424068
To be fair, every technology manufacturer is outsourcing to Foxconn because of how conveniently cheap it is.

I believe their Mac Pro (stupid trashcan looking machine) was made in America.

>>119423734
You keep telling yourself that.

>>119416210

I didn't need confirmation from an Intel employee.

>>119423887
you'd have to be able to prove that they knowingly do it. if we're discussing topics like the fucking CIA / FBI / NSA then we probably arent going to get crystal clear prima facie.

what are you; literally AND figuratively retarded?

>>119416210

>intel inside

>>119423887

They will still be most secure mobile. They announced they distancing from intell. They just announce they making their own gpu too. They just gonna end up doing everthything in house.

>>119424429
God bless whistleblowers I guess?

>>119424253
>>119424223
Hold me anons.

>>119421065
You really overestimate the will of American people

They keep us fat and dumb in low trust communities

>>119423887
>This also might be why Apple has rejected putting Intel CPUs for their iPhones/iPads/MacBook Airs and decided to use their own ARM processors.

Or more likely, that just had to do with costs and energy efficiency.

Why are you such an Apple fag OP?

>>119422474
>not using aparthdid linux.

Couldn't unlock the San Bernardino shooter phone my butts

>>119425233
Letting people know you can do it already is a bad bargining chip.

>be /pol/yard
>still think you have any ounce of security or privacy in all your little online open source bullshit

Bluepilled fags can go back to /reddit/. When it came out Obama was spying on everyone with the NSA that should have been your confirmation eventhough some of us were trying to tell you years prior to that even.

Every single major corporation is in collusion with big government

>>119424574
>They just gonna end up doing everthything in house.
>implying they would not be hit with NSA letter requiring them install backdoors in their chips.
Well at least Intel would not be able to spy through iphones privetly lol.

>>119425409
This is why there is so much resistance on discussion on how to fight back.

>>119425499

But muh Apple!

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bump for # Vault 7

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>>119416210
> exploitable hardware backdoors
Will this work on my gf if she wears a miniskirt? Desu.

>>119421065
>how come every American company isn't winning in innovation?
Ehhh? They do? Japan used to be untouchable leader in the electronics now you are boring "like everything else" people.

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>>119425637

Wait, let me pentest her for you.

>>119425637
Brute force it.

>>119416210
>implying intel has not been putting backdoors in their products for years

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>>119416210

>>119421818
yea best bet is to get a Chromebook C201 (uses a Rockwell processor - not Intel/AMD) get libreboot installed or coreboot and put a linux distro of your choosing on it, also dismantle and disconnect cam/microphone.

Don't buy one from that fucking tranny Libreboot's faggot essex based operation, fucking well overpriced.

>>119416512
Yeah inside the management engine.

Interesting there was a big OS X update that eliminated some frameworks just a couple days ago.

>>119425522
There isnt a way to fight back. Everything is online now and it's all being synced to one network so they have access to literally everything. Smart TVs, cell phones, laptops, cars, CCTV, Amazon Echo shit, OnStar. It's all being used for surveillance. You csnt fight back because you can never have the knowledge of a 20 year electrical engineer from IBM and a 20 year software development security admin from Microsoft and a 20 year manufacturing specialist from Intel.

Varg Vikenes is right, the only solution is to reject all technology. Buy a car that's 20-30 years old. Stop using smart phones. Stop using the internet.

Capitalist kikes ruined everything that was good in this world for their own nefarious controlling agendas to oppress people.

>>119425499
Apple is bigger than the NSA. They don't cuck like you think. It had already addressed everything in valult7.

>>119419877
>only thing that is safe
Lots of older hardware is safe, some quite powerful enough to do whatever most people need except maybe 3D games.

>>119420840
>>119421681
>>119421818
ya nobody knows for sure

>>119426135
>believing big corporate

Fuck you're dumb

>>119425499

Providers way more of threat. Apple still on our side.

>>119420833
F

>>119421148
But bears have at least a 2/2 in magic, so the total should be 16/16...

>>119418583
Yeah, let's put all the most dangerous likeminded people in one spot.
No way that would backfire

>>119416210
all this is public, it is not a 4chan discovery

>>119426096
>You csnt fight back because you can never have the knowledge of a 20 year electrical engineer from IBM and a 20 year software development security admin from Microsoft and a 20 year manufacturing specialist from Intel.

You are literally wirting this on the invention that distributed the entirety of human knowladge.

There are ways to use what we have and make it secure but it involves effort and knowladge, but more than that, we need to take back what is ours.

>>119422929
>If so do you know the compiler's code?
https://www.ece.cmu.edu/~ganger/712.fall02/papers/p761-thompson.pdf
good read, creator of unix's backdoor scheme

this is ancient stuff long before easy to use turn-key hardware backdoors

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>>119416210
>tfw sit at the computer and talk to myself
that cant be good

>>119426311
>Apple still on our side.

That could be what they want you to believe.

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>>119426040
>Chromebook C201 (uses a Rockwell processor - not Intel/AMD)

>Rockchip (Fuzhou Rockchip Electronics Co., Ltd.) is a Chinese fabless semiconductor company based in Fuzhou, Fujian province.

>>119422293
>>119426439 here,
muh nigga
should read the replies first

>>119426308

Why do you think there's such a huge demand for 3rd party indepentant contractors who can crack iPhone? Who do you think hires them? Apple protects it's product as its product is its bottom line.

>>119426308

Why do you think there's such a huge demand for 3rd party indepentant contractors who can crack iPhone? Who do you think hires them? Alohabets. Apple protects it's product as its product is its bottom line.

just to point out the iPhone doesn't use the intel chips, they use custom designed ARM chips made by samsung and tsmc

>>119426447
it's ok, even if it's a larp it's a pious larp

>>119426040
>not using a transmeta crusoe
pleb

>>119426468
We all do.

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>>119416210
STOP USING PROPRIETARY FIRMWARE

>>119426450
You can't take anything back you fucking retard. You will never possess the knowledge or understanding to revert this. It is the accumulation of decades of knowledge and trillions in finding and decades of experience from thousands of engineers.

The only solution is to just stop using technology and go back to the way shit was in the 80s and 90s

>>119426524
Yea knew they were Chinese, haven't looked in to who they are specifically but with what we know about Intel and AMD it's the only other option.

Do you have any specific knowledge about why using a Rockchip could be just as bad?

>>119426691
Fuck off apple shill

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>>119426916
>just give up your most powerful weapon lay down and die as a dirt farmer.

No.

>>119426096
>Varg Vikenes is right, the only solution is to reject all technology.

Become professional youtube entertainer without using your one claim to fame talent, impregnate younger autist fangirl wife, lead the fulltime larping hobo good life.

Could be worse I guess.

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>>119426901
stop using anything with a management engine

Reminder smartphones and iphones help spread degeneracy.

>>119426135
They have choice. Letter and gag order. Accept or be trialed in secret court for treason.

>>119426963
Even though people might not have the datasheets on any possible hardware backdoors in the Chinese computers, there exists the distinct possibility that they're infected.

Only complete network (at different layers) and even electromagnetic analyses will be able to tell if there is information leakage from a computer, network communications or services, bluteooth or wifi or even more covert radio transmissions, etc.

It sounds like a fun project actually.

>>119427163
Is wife is pretty and he has like 6 kids and his own land

Beats the alternative that most of you cucks are living in some city apartment jerking off to anime and cuck porn

>>119416210
>TCP/IP ACCESS
No fucking shit? Did you expect them to use UDP or something on a fucking cell connection?

>>119427636
i'd expect them to use any means available, even ultrasonic sound and microphones or even flickering screen

oops we know that this has been done

>>119416210
These aren't the same thing.

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fuck

>>119427636
also on a cell phone tcp/ip is layered on top of another network

in this case it's a multiple-access packet radio network, but it's not running tcp/ip itself

How hard would it be to create your own bootleg cpu.

>>119426096
>Stop using smart phones
Good point, no more phoneposters on /pol/

>>119420833
wow, also praise kek

>>119428091
Even harder because you had to ask that question

Anything core 2 duo or before is safe. The I series CPUs 1st to 5th gen it may be compromised but not sure. But after 6th gen CPUs definitely has backdoors installed.

>>119428091
It's been done, and there are tons of obscure ones out there which are probably botnet free.

Also there are a lot of older antique-style cpus from the 70's onward which have been shrunk down and put into systems on a chip

the pin-compatible replacement parts are probably botnet free but who knows about the whole shebang SOC type solutions, still the really low powered coldfires are probably safe eh? you could get unix bootstrapped on something like that

>>119428091
pretty hard. I had to implement just the Arithmetic Logic Unit in my computer org class and that was a major boner killer. Fun tho.

>>119416210
Fuck my life

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>>119418741
No. We had this discussion on /g/ 100 times already.
There are ways to disable Intel ME. It was also discovered to be disabled on ivy bridge and sandy bridge. I'm testing a flash on my 6700k and 7700k.
https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner/wiki/me_cleaner-status

>>119428091
>>119428328
>bootleg, DIY CPU
>It's been done
Yeah, I'm sure some random fag has a billion dollar fabrication plant and just decided to create his own custom ARM chip for an iPhone. The closest you're going to get is something like the Longsoon fail CPU or OpenSPARC. Good luck making one of those in your basement.

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>old thinkpad stashes are going up in value
I have 9, plus a couple PPCs, and various other non-Intel, Intel-compaitble computers.

>>119426308
Dramatic communist scum.

>>119426445

> Camp Bucca anyone?

>>119418955
Holy fuck

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>>119428746
>Yeah, I'm sure some random fag has a billion dollar fabrication plant and just decided to create his own custom ARM chip for an iPhone.
It's been done with everything from home-made TTL to any generic CPU you can think of to FPGAs anon. In the beginning of home computers, you got yours by going to Intel at the computer show and getting handed a CPU and some RAM out of bins, you brought it home and breadboarded the whole thing yourself.

These days any number of CPU cores, as well as the right kind of ram and permanent storage, are available, you can go with something obscure but factory-made and run NetBSD on it even if it's a toaster, or you can make up your whole own CPU architecture and bring it up yourself like Chuck Moore, the creator of Forth did and try to sell it, pic related.

>The closest you're going to get is something like the Longsoon fail CPU or OpenSPARC. Good luck making one of those in your basement.
Oh sweetie...

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well well well well well well well.

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surprise, nope.

>>119423210
You're safe as long as you're using TempleOS. It's immune to all known attack vectors.

>>119416210

iphone 5 has broadcom wifi

>>119428746

In before 3D printing cpus with doping materials

>being surprised
>being this late
Search for "Intel Management Engine", literally a huge disaster waiting to happen.

>>119429581
>thinking they can't watch you as you use it with the built in vnc

>thinking they can't control it and rewrite the code as you sleep to interfere with the random number generators and thus mess with the God Words!
oh laddie

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>>119429183
>>119428746
>>119428091
You could have SOLDERED it!

>>119429694
you realize they would have to try to shut off the internet if this shit got real

maybe they'd even kill the power for a couple days

it's seriously insane that this capability was built in, it's a ticking time bomb that could seriously interfere with civilization as we know it

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>>119429793

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>>119429863
Well I'm just saying there is a big range of options that a person could take advantage of.

Most smart people will just keep some older thing around for in case the internet goes kaboom, and some open source software (including source!) to go with it.

We can bootstrap ourselves again as long as everybody remembers, we need an IBM 5100 so if you find one carefully preserve it and wait until Trump asks for it

>>119429863
>SOLDERED

Every time!

haha bazinga right?

let's all get together and talk about this on reddit ok?

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>>119420833
>https://techcrunch.com/2015/12/30/debian-creator-ian-murdock-dead-at-42/


Are you sure they aren't confusing him with bill paxton?

>>119430140
Shieeeeeeet I have way too much old junk up in the loft that's in boxes (computer stuff). But we should have soldered it.

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>implying there aren't companies who subsist on just such a market

>>119430477

>Dec 30, 2015
>The cause is yet unknown

What are they hiding?

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>>119430934
Nothing goy, go to sleep.

>>119429183
>you got yours by going to Intel at the computer show and getting handed a CPU and some RAM out of bins, you brought it home and breadboarded the whole thing yourself
You really are a stupid fucking retard you know that? Good fucking luck MAKING a fucking CPU you dumb cunt. The CPU is the important part. Who gives a fuck if there's some backdoor chip on the motherboard when the fucking CPU has backdoors build in to the silicon and you need an electron microscopy just to be able to fucking see it?

>>119416210
alrighr CIA, you got my anime feet lewds. Now what's the next step of your master plan?

>>119429863
Save us from government surveillance wise clock kid!!

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>>119417261
>CIA BTFO

>>119429909
Which is why you should support AMD and buy their stock.

But seriously, competition is good, and it's not fair when the government is giving trade secrets for pennies on the dollar and public research to fund one big evil company (Intel).

>>119429909

>Not being mesh net ready

>>119431377
>you need an electron microscopy just to be able to fucking
You can't even do that.

>>119431792
>Thinking Intel don't own any amount of AMD

>>119426450
>we need to take back what is ours

None of this shit is yours. You can't tell manufacturers what to do. You don't need their products to survive. They can spy on you using products they've built and it's becoming more and more legal as people give up.

Go and build your own computers if you're so damn paranoid. These machines are a privelege that humanity has only known for a fraction of our history and it literally allows us to communicate instantaenously with anyone around the globe. Stop fucking crying like you're going to stop using this amazing ass shit. If you don't want to be spied on, either fuck off or actually begin caring enough to learn how to combat the methods used.

You won't do shit. You're too fucking lazy to learn how to make yourself less vulnerable.

>>119426916
If people truly cared about this and were as moved as they seem, they would have to manufactuer their own hardware, build their own machines, and write their own operating systems.

Seeing as this would require one to give up everything else in life because none of that shit is easy and it will equate to one, if not two, full time jobs to get all of that in order. All the average person can do is sit there and take it like the dumb shits they have chosen to be.

>>119416210
You know, this always makes me ask

what's to stop some goy from making a botnet and fucking up their entire plans?

>>119435016
It's hard to exploit bugs that no one knows about for hardware and software that's not open. If they build the backdoors correctly it will have some kind of cryptographic authentication built in which makes fuzzing infeasible.

>>119435016
>what's to stop some goy from making a botnet and fucking up their entire plans?
Well anon? What IS stopping you?

We already knew this, many years before he said this. But we claimed to have shared the firmware signing keys to certain developers, this is his contribution.

>>119436297
He*

>Ryzen was such a flop that AMD is shilling this hard with made up stories

You guys do realize a majority of those threads are just faggots larping, like Anon5, right?

I wouldn't find it too farfetched if AMD is doing this shit since Ryzen was such a fucking failure. Spend millions on advertising, pumping Linus and his faggot friends to make 50 videos a week (literally) to shill for Ryzen, and now this.

Lmfao. Stay mad, AMD cucks.

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Ooof! Ouch ugh.... I tripped and dropped my Sharia-Blue notebook with all my stuff... Owwwowwwww I hate it when that happens, guys

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>>119416210
Good thing I have an iPhone 4. Have fun getting doxxed, leddit.

>>119435794
>zero day exploits

>>119436018
I'm lazy, and that's pretty much it tbdesu
I know a fair amount of coding, and been meaning to get into Haskell and lisp
Hell, I'd probably be a more contributing poster on /sci/ if I actually put in effort.

>>119436536
>t. Intel employee worried about getting canned after these leaks

3rd party processors do exist

>>119426445
Worked out pretty well for Hitler.

>>119419380
>obscure flag
>snarky comment that attempts to lead someone into saying something criminal

Nice try fbi. 4/10 post. Work on sounding more natural.

>>119426692
they use the Intel WiFi chip unless I'm misunderstanding all this