Have we been deceived?

>>114366318
wtf is a supercell

>>114366709
a larger ferrocell

>>114366913
Please explain what this is.

>>114366318
>Is mainstream physics wrong?
Lurk moar newfriend.

>>114366913
Can I get a quick rundown on ferromagnetic superexchange?

>>114367279
>Can I get a basic gestalt on ferromagnetic superexchange?
FTFY

>>114367151
It is a magnet placed on a ferrocell - visualizing a magnetic "field" around. Never seen such magnetic power lines at school, right? You have been deceived.

>Meet Ken Wheeler

>>>/sci/

>>114367346
Can you provide a leisurely stroll up on quantum electrodynamics? Asking for a friend.

>>114367377
Well what the fuck is a ferrocell, then?

>>114367378
No.

Is it politically correct to say that Einstein was wrong, Nikola Tesla right and mainstream explanation of magnetism and gravity is BS?

Discuss.

>>114367505
http://www.ferrocell.us/intro.html

>>114367507
No. Take your shit to /sci/ and come back when you can explain all of it to us in two sentences.

>>114367507
Please explain what you are actually trying to show us and what's new about it.

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>>114367572
Yeah, no way that shit's fake. Absolutely not.

>>114367722
Watch the videos before commenting.

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>>114366318
>tattos

>>114367884
No.

>>114367748
I suggest you watch these videos first...

Or read his book: https://archive.org/details/magnetism1small

Did somebody say birkeland currents?

Gravity is a result of electromagnetism.

Fuck mainstream science!
We electrical universe now

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>>114368078
>https://archive.org/details/magnetism1small
>believing a book with the typography of the TimeCube website

>>114368540
a dumb argument

>>114368682
Okay, let me rephrase that: Your sources all look like the insane scribblings of a mad man, and nothing you've done so far makes me think this is real.

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>>114368385
>tfw electric universe proves the bible

>>114368078
What the fuck is counterspace? I think I understand his point in the video but I don't see how it proves his hypothesis.

>>114366318
how do I make a supercell?

>>114369132
take two cells and add fluid in between it, freeze it over night and let it thaw in a temperature of 1° over the course of 3 days. Dip it in hydrofluid oxygen, let it dry and shine ultra violet light directly onto it for 3 hours, try and increase the temperature to 25° but keep it below 25.5°

>>114369132
1 - Take a nine-volt battery and wire a lamp cord onto it.
2 - Plug into electrical socket
3 - ???
4 - Profit!

>>114369338
ok fuck that. where do I buy one?

>>114369367
are you retarded? or merely pretending to be?

>>114369127
If you are really interested, watch more of his videos, he has tons of them (and say good-bye to your weekends, there's no shortcut, sorry).

>>114366318
those magnets aren't accelerating toward one another

>>114369466
can't buy it sadly, been on the market for one for years and haven't found it

>>114369132

>how do I make a supercell?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15XjofOEahI

>>114369466
Tis merely a ruse my good man

>>114369471
No, explain it to me.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkVC7lqc--0
I don't see how this is proof.

Take this shit to /x/ you larping faggot

Why does this matter? And how is it politically incorrect

>>114366318
/p/ here

"The angry photographer" is a fucking retard.

>>114369742

Are you asking about space vs. counterspace? Can you think in 3D?

Try this for a start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVcRSAvnOuA

this guy is basically just calling all potential "counterspace", right?

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You can hear his disdain for plebeians when he rambles on about "conventional" thought. Let's see how superior he feels when Chad thwomps him over the head with a brick.

>>114369612
he doesn't say shit about how they're made in that video.

If you push opposite magnets together where does the energy go? is it destroyed ?!?!?!?!

>>114366318
So we are lookng at visualised magnet lines...who cares?

>>114370283
Nutjobs and subhumans.

>>114370283
It looks pretty cool DESU

would make a nice wallpaper lol

>>114370114
counterspatial inertia

>>114370218
what energy?

>>114370856
From my hands pushing the magnets together for who knows how long.

>>114370218
energy is never destroyed. that energy is what makes the magnetic fields stronger, as is shown in the first link in OP, towards the end of the video.

>>114371142
I know the theory.

So the energy makes the field stronger? but after you release the magnets they don't go flying everywhere.

It seems like the energy gets used up and disappears somewhere.

Yeah sure.

A shitty YouTube video is all you have?

Write a fucking paper.

>>114370214
He explains what you need to get and how to make it, and keeps no secret about it. Look for more info at his channel, he answers questions generously.
The ferrocell patent by Timm A. Vanderelli expired (supposedly on purpose), anyone can make it.

>>114371142
Id imagine the miniscule amount of energy from the two tiny little magnetic fields interacting gets converted to heat but its an undetectably small amount.

>>114371752

maybe electromagnetic radiation?

In the video there were two electromagnetic streams going out

>>114371752
This guy gets it. All energy gets thermalized eventually.

>>114371315
>after you release the magnets they don't go flying everywhere.
while you are applying pressure, the energy is being converted into magnetic fields being stronger. when you let go, you no longer add energy. the energy now has other forms and is no longer where it was.

>>114372134

Yea so I want to know where does it go now?

>>114371597
What's his fucking point? He talks shit for 4 minutes, after that I turned off the video cause it's a waste of time.

Magnetism != Gravity?

Really, Sherlock?

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>>114371315
>>114371597
>>114371752
see how they're brighter now?

but still, the energy you're inserting is too small for have an effect that is noticable (if you didn't have the cell, you wouldn't even see that part)

>>114372134
You compress the fields. You dont "make them stronger".

>>114372271
The light is coming from LEDs...

>>114372236
>Magnetism != Gravity?
>Really, Sherlock?

Even worse, my dear Watson. There's no "gravity."

>>114372442
the light is visualizing what's happening with the magnetic fields. idiot.

>>114372488
Gravity is just a (((conspiracy))), amirite? Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to jump off my balcony.

>>114372293
it's the same thing retardo. to compress anything means you have to use extra energy to do so. go compress anything without extra energy..

>10 seconds in
>gravity doesn't exist

Maybe if those idiots didn't meme all the time, the scientific community would have taken them seriously.

drumpf btfo

>>114372542
Yes. I know. The light comes from LEDs around the side. You can see them quite clearly.

>>114372595
that argument he's making is not about whether or not you'll fall, but why and how that happens. fagget leaf.

>>114366318
LUMINIFEROUS AETHER

SPECIAL AND GENERAL RELATIVITY ARE JEWISH LIES

https://youtu.be/dH7zOX5PrVw

>>114372657
so you can see that the effect of the magnetic fields are becoming stronger as they bend more light towards the eye.

are you people brain dead?

>>114372679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DutJLb-c0vs

>>114372679
Grand unified theories have eluded much smarter men than him friend. I won't hold my breath.

>>114372488
And why should gravity not exist?

A hillbilly moves magnets on some foils, what's the purpose of this "experiment"? African sciences?

>>114366318
That man is a crack pot. He knows his Nikon and Fuji well enough and that's about it.

>>114372787
>adhominem instead of focusing on the content
ok retard.

>>114372738
You can change the direction that light travels with a prism too.

>>114372836
>A FUCKING LADYBOY

go back to shilling on pizzagate threads

it looks like he just takes some iron oxide places it in a liquid carrier then drops it between two glass plates. nothing to see here "super cell" my ass.

>>114372862
It's not an ad hom, it's the truth. A grand unified theory that unifies the four fundamental forces is the holy grail of theoretical physics. Do you really think some guy on YouTube has cracked it?

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>>114366318
((((((mainstream physics))))))

QM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaecUuEqfc
Electricity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TttHkDRuyZw
Gravity & Black Holes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRsGPq77X0Q
TRUMP knew Truth on 911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23yfBWH8Hjk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoYXihwcp8c
GLOBAL HOAXING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh-DNNIUjKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExgKJpJyDXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbAgl7w_Vws

https://mega.nz/#F!IBUFTAab!OiZMtL9PlQP1ev8YKfm4Wg

>>114372975
Learn physics.

>>114372924
ok you are literally retard.

those two things have nothing to do with each other. the LEDs are there for you to see the effect of the magnetic field on the liquid.

>>114366318
>Is mainstream physics wrong?
Of course mainstream physics is wrong. Relativity and quantum mechanics are incompatible and cannot be reconciled. That means one of them (or both of them) are wrong. And string theory is ridiculous pseudo-scientific junk, a waste of everybody's time.

>>114373229
Yes and by interacting with the magnetic field you can change the direction that light travels, making those nice patterns.
What else is there to this thing? Its just making nice patterns with some LEDs and some magnets.

This is clearly bait from another board but its interesting seeing it play out.

>>114373160
Get a real job.

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>>114366318
lol cool stuff, but gravity isnt magnetic, thats a step and a half 5/10. great equipment

>>114373357
hey retard, I'm talking about the increased effect when the magnets are pushed together. the relative difference you see in the same fucking effect using the same fucking method to visualize

>>114367884
I did, it's just some druggie fuck who took too much DMT and got really into magnets. How is this pleb supposed to get a Nobel price? It's just some cool lines on a glass.

>>114367377
We did the thing with iron filings on a piece of paper with magnets underneath.
Isn't this basically the same thing?

>>114373493
All we know from this is that more light is being directed towards our eyes. You cant measure the strenght of a magnetic field with your fucking eye ball.
Magnetic fields have orientation too meaning the intensity of the light can be altered by the orientation of the magnetic field, not just its strenght. If you are genuine that should answer your question. If you are trolling, well this is boring.

>>114373574
With light in a liquid. Yes.

>>114373357
>light travels

A good point. Define light and how it "travels."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM-QXxqApv4

>>114373845
Im not a physacist. I'm a clinical chemist. Have you any biology or laboratory testing questions for me? I might be more help with them.

>>114373574
>iron filings on a piece of paper with magnets underneath

What did it look like?

>>114373798
>All we know from this is that more light is being directed towards our eyes.
by the force of magnetic fields. this is confirmed scientific method for visualizing magentic fields retard.

the power of the magnetic field directly correlates to the angle at which light is being directed.

>>114373931
>Have you any biology or laboratory testing questions for me?

No, thanks. This thread is about true nature of magnetism.

>>114374091
Post proof.

>>114374132
I wasnt aware that there was any debate on the subject. Could you sum up the arguments for me?

>>114372721

>LUMINIFEROUS AETHER

This.

>>114369547
>http://www.ferrocell.us/intro.html
>>114369466
They sell them from this site. Caveat emptor.

>>114374133
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+visualize+magnetic+fields+in+experiment

>>114373845
Oh I get it.

This is why lasers and looking at the sun is bad for your eyes but normal light emanated from a standard lightbulb doesn't....

>>114374256
do you have any other links about this? This is the craziest rabbit hole I've ever gone down.

>>114366318
>Is mainstream physics wrong?
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iNIsdyZXvI

>>114370916
It's opposed by the magnetic force.

Energy goes into burning calories: chemical reactions and heat.

>>114374301
I have no education on the subject whatsoever. You will need to spoon feed me every detail.

>>114373931
>Have you any biology or laboratory testing questions for me?

Actually, I do. How do birds navigate using magnetism? (spoiler: Ken knows)

>>114374519
not gonna happen. you can look everything up.

>>114374495
yup.

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aight here's the thing

if this guys claims had any substantial basis whatsoever, he could just take it to Oxford/Cambridge/Harvard younameit, and he'd become an incredibly famous scientist overnight.

But since all of his shit is baseless, he settles for selling bogus books online, and all the dumdums are eating it up.

t.physicist

>>114374537
Human biology only please.

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>>114373299
yup. all theorectical bullshit is useless.
QM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaecUuEqfc
Electricity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TttHkDRuyZw
Gravity & Black Holes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRsGPq77X0Q
TRUMP knew Truth on 911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23yfBWH8Hjk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoYXihwcp8c
GLOBAL HOAXING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh-DNNIUjKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExgKJpJyDXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbAgl7w_Vws

https://mega.nz/#F!IBUFTAab!OiZMtL9PlQP1ev8YKfm4Wg

Fuck off to /x/, not /pol/

>>114374555
Damn guess I have to bow out then. I dont even understand what you are trying to prove in this thread.

I bet /pol/ really believes that bullshit, just like flat earth theory.

>>114368385
>tfw electric universe theorist quietly lurk awaiting for the truth to be revealed

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>>114374405
Cone and rod cells hyperpolarizate to the point of no return.

>>114374784
>He says while standing on flat ground and not falling through space.

>>114373299
String theory is interesting as a mathematical theory, but no way it applies to reality.

>>114374405
>This is why lasers

Do you know who invented laser?

>aether (aka ether) dispute: Nikola Tesla vs. Einsten, look it up.

it's a fucking magnetic viewing film with orange leds underneath

so exactly 0 revolutionary tech here

>>114373299
>Relativity and quantum mechanics are incompatible and cannot be reconciled.
Both are models which work in their specific situations, as with newtonian mechanics before them they're probably just limiting cases of some GUT.

>>114372721
holy shit anon

>>114375083
The existence of aether was disproven by the Michelson-Morley experiment over a century ago, along with many observations since.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiCMFzpMnZM

>>114371752
>>114374684
So you admit you've been talking out your ass?
You pleb, with your common sensebilities.

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>>114373950
sorry it took so long to reply, catching up on the thread.
Looks like this.

>>114374556
>if this guys claims had any substantial basis whatsoever, he could just take it to Oxford/Cambridge/Harvard younameit, and he'd become an incredibly famous scientist overnight.
That's not how it works though, the most respectable people in a field might have built their entire career and livelihood on a theory that is now proven wrong. Naturally he has a vested interest in seeing a new comer that challenge their ideas fail (at least until they get their tenure/pension) so they might use all their influence to crush any opposition.

This guys life story is basically that, he was a geologist though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_Harlen_Bretz

>>114375271
>Average world wide temperatures are going up
Holy shit you are onto something here.

>>114375337
>That's not how it works though, the most respectable people in a field might have built their entire career and livelihood on a theory that is now proven wrong. Naturally he has a vested interest in seeing a new comer that challenge their ideas fail
Do you have any idea how peer review works? The people who work in relativity are constantly coming up with new tests for their own theories, any scientist does this. It's not some cartel, you could go to a different journal.

>>114375290
No dutchie is blatently trolling. Im just playing my role. Its fun.

>>114375265
>disproven by the Michelson-Morley experiment over a century ago

Wrong.

You've got some catching up to do...

>>114375481
>Wrong.
Explain how?
inb4 crackpot kiketube videos by scammers making money off of mongs like you.

>>114374853
Interesting.

>>114375265
That was only a test of aether drag, not a disproving of aether itself.

>>114375685
>That was only a test of aether drag, not a disproving of aether itself.
So what observable thing does your aether do? Since it's never been detected to date even though things like gravitational waves (a prediction of GR) have.

>>114372488
>There's no "gravity."

Hence it is known as a curvature in the space-time to physicists. Gravity is just a normie word to label the macroscopic effect we are seeing.

>>114375543

Einstein knew Michelson-Morley didn't rule out the ether! But some kind of "explanation" by Lorentz was put into into relativity in spite of it. (Lorentz knew the Michelson-Morley experiment didn't rule out the ether because the measuring apparatus would have been compressed in the direction the earth was travelling).

>>114375083
Space isn't a perfect vacuum

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>>114376060
>Lorentz knew the Michelson-Morley experiment didn't rule out the ether because the measuring apparatus would have been compressed in the direction the earth was travelling
You have no idea what you're on about then, I'm out of this /x/ tier shitpostthread

>>114375449
Did work for that guy did it?

So i am right. Now go fuck yourself.

A lot of autism in this thread...

>tfw /pol/ has better scientific discussions than /sci/.

Same thread on /sci/ only had 6 replies

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help my guys I went down the rabbit hole a few days ago. I don't know what to believe anymore. My instincts have always told me not to trust masons or (((their pals))) so I'm fucking questioning gravity now.

>>114376550
>>tfw /pol/ has better scientific discussions than /sci/.
>Same thread on /sci/ only had 6 replies
Cause it's bullshit.

>>114372721
any updates on this madman?

>>114369367

This is how i built mine.

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>>114376561
dont worry ur sanity will come back so long as u want it to

>>114366318
(((science))) is the new religion of goyim

It's just simple flux focusing, you can bend magnetic fields using other magnets. See halbach array for a practical use.

>>114373159
holy shit this is so juicy, i love it. GIVE ME ELECTRICITY BABY WE GOING FULL NIKOLAI UP IN HERE

>>114372271
It's brighter because there's more concentration of iron

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He was fucking right wasn't he? God dammit.

>>114366318

This is such a common thing with pseudo-science.
>See it's actually really simple everyone!!! million are wrong! me and my 10$ ferrocell have proved it

Also I love how he's trying to disprove large body interactions, done with gravity, by using some walmart magnets.

If anyone is curious what that block spot is, it's a lack of ferro fluid that is being pulled away, thus leaving a clearing.

>>114375449
>It's not some cartel, you could go to a different journal.

Science as a modern social movement is too politicized to be taken seriously. All of this hidden knowledge is leaked to the scientific community in ways that steer them in certain directions to control economic growth and maintain power.

>>114375774
I don't know how to prove it exists, I just don't accept that you think it's been disproven, because it hasn't. I don't personally think aether drag exists.

>>114374609
Can you explain why laser eye surgery works?

>>114377250
Typical jewish mechanism. Take something based in reality and create a cloak of verbal sleight of hand to completely manipulate it to your own ends. Fuck this gay earth.

>>114376960
There are two religions for goyim now. SJWism and the other religion is believing that wealth from a growing economy will be passed on to them, based only on the words of politicians.

The GDP is growing!
>while your wages are stagnent and inflattion is occuring
Be happy!

>>114369959
i think the theory is that (((They))) have tricked scientist with politically driven science and that Einsteins theories are lies.

i have yet to see any proof that disproves it, get 2 atomic clocks one at sea level one in orbit the atomic clocks move out of sink, is this a lie?

>>114377375
Lasers transmit energy to your optic cells which then are rejuvinated. Lasers can do anything.

>>114376561
>right-hand path = right-hand rule
>black and white checkerboad = binary of postive/negative
>boaz and jachin = magnetic poles

yeah fuck those niggers

>>114375337
Your example is decades years old, and hypothesis/theories in geology are very different to those in physics. If the guy in OP's video would go to a credible audience and state his case, it would go through a thorough peer review.

It's not the 40's anymore, shitthrowing elitism isn't a thing anymore. The current audience is too big for stuff like that to occur.

>>114377791
>shitthrowing elitism isn't a thing anymore

you're fucking kidding me right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmvLdOkpg2M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrGRP2mu0GA

What race is Ken?

>>114375337
HIV denial is a weird trip. It involves a lot of crackpot science, conspiracies and people dying over it.

Its in a league of its own. Who cares if someone doesnt belive in gravity.

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>>114372721
great now I really can't go back.

>>114373106

depends on if he's correct, then yes, why not?

Huh.

But why did the jews lie to us?

>>114377423
>>114377250
And einstein disagreed with QM.

Newsflash, scientists disagree with each other, sometimes to ridiculous degrees, the main results of GR came after tesla's death, with how groundbreaking it was, it is understandable to be skeptical, there are people who are to this day after all.

As to tesla himself, he was good with electricity, but not necessarily with physics, see this quote of his about electrons:
"To account for its apparently small mass, science conceives the electron as a hollow sphere, a sort of bubble," Tesla says. "Now, a bubble can exist in such a medium as a gas or liquid because its internal pressure is not altered by deformation. But if, as supposed, the internal pressure of an electron is due to the repulsion of electric masses, the slightest conceivable deformation must result in the destruction of the bubble!
Just to mention another improbability, the force tending to tear an electron apart is, in pounds per square inch, represented by the staggering figure of 256,899 followed by twenty-one zeros - and this is 513,798,000,000,000,000,000 times greater than the tension that tungsten wire can withstand? And yet it does not burst! Not even when it is hurled against an obstacle with a speed hundreds of thousands times greater than that of a bullet!"

>>114377947
Oh I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about physics and not clinical/medical science.

Also guys like this are dime a dozen, and feed off these "crazy mindblowing facts" with flashy thumbnails and *DONATE HERE* buttons.

>>114377947
Not an argument.

>>114378698
>>114378850
The argument is that these ideas aren't even entertained by the scientific community. You aren't even entertaining them on an anonymous imageboard and you expect me to believe that people with actual social and financial incentives to push their theories wouldn't suppress alternate (possibly true) theories?

What really needs to happen is the building of something that is sellable and see what kind of shit goes down and who gets killed off. Scientific knowledge is power over the proles.

>>114368078
Motherfucker I'm not reading a book to understand your thread.

>>114366318
>is mainstream physics wrong
no shit sherlock, who is Nikola Tesla.

actually read the blueprints before you respond with some bs pls.

>>114379247
>FUCK YEAH AMERICAN

beat the knowledge into them burger bro, we'll back you up the whole way, let's invade these fucking poofs.

>>114366318
>Is mainstream physics wrong?
>>114366318
Most likely, there'll be a lot more theories before we even have a slight grasp of the nature of reality.

>>114366318
He's just some insane guy trying to invent reasons for what he's seeing.


This guy just sits there putting two magnets on some kind of viewer and acts amazed that the magnetic forces cancel out in the middle?

Then tries to argue that the reason objects fall towards one another is because the magnetic null zone in the middle attracts the two objects via pressure differential?

Come on, this is basic school science he seems to have missed.

>>114366318

>Have we been deceived?

Yes.

>Is mainstream physics wrong?

Yes. The thing is this, you ask people "How do you know X?" and they'll probably reply by saying something like "Well, because it's in my science books." or "Well, because it's been peer-reviewed." or "Well, because it's been agreed upon by a majority of scientists.", but these are flimsy defences, because unless YOU can verify for yourself whether something is true or not either by OBSERVATION or by doing an experiment about it BY YOURSELF, you are relying essentially on external sources for your information and it is naïve to think that those sources don't have agendas.
What people call 'mainstream science' has been hijacked by politics, religion and corporations. So-called 'peer review' these days is usually nothing more than a circle-jerk. Just as people support the separation of church and state (and RIGHTFULLY so), I support the separation of SCIENCE and state. We owe it to our innate intelligence to QUESTION EVERYTHING.

>>114376561
god damnit anon pull your self togetherreereer rre eeee rrefffffffcvcvgbgtwfsfswertghfdghj a ea gdg

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