/x/enophile here, naturally I'm always spooped but I like being outdoors, it's just that I don't like sleeping in the outdoors at night. Got any tips to not be paranoid about every twig crack?
Go out to a spot during the day and just sit quietly for a few hours and listen to the woods, listen all the little sounds they make and get familiar with them. Since it daylight out the instinct part of your brain won't be quite so on edge.
Do this a couple times, then go back to that spot at night and do the same thing. You'll be more familiar with the standard background sounds of the woods so hopefully you'll be more comfortable and less on edge.
The woods sound pretty different at night but what this anon says is true. It's all about familiarity. Also, at dawn shit gets crazy, especially in the spring.
There's only two options:
1. Just plop down a tent in the middle of the woods and try to get used to it. You probably won't sleep very well the first night, but you'll get there.
2. Slowly push your self out of your comfort zone. Start by hiking later every night, until you're eventually comfortable with walking through the forest at 02:00 (singing helps a lot). Or start by sleeping in someone's back yard and escalate from there.
And remember, man is the most dangerous animal of all, and a majority of wild animals prefer to stay WAY clear of you. For everything else, there's handguns and knives.
long before skinwalkers and goatmen became a meme, i was scared of them. i grew up in a backwoods town in oregon and my grandpa used to tell me stories about bat people and goatmen in Vietnam. I have a hard time telling myself that goat people arent real, and that i have a .45.
anon please tell me about the bat people and goatmen anon. pls anon
Go /out/ with a friend or two who are more comfortable in the woods, this will also help you acclimate.
Humans are social creatures, if we're alone in an unfamiliar it can amplify our fight/flight response. If we are with someone we know, and that someone is calm and comfortabke then we will likely be more calm and comfortable.
Fear is a meme. Nothing out there actually wants to hurt you, it's just a myth perpetuated by the firearms industry to scare you into buying their wares.
I go out for weeks at a time with no tent and no guns, I've ran into bears and wild canids and all the ever do is look at you and realize you're not worth the damage you could potentially do to them. That said, if you start running away, it would probably spark their predatory instinct, just stare them down and tell them you'll fuck them up if they mess with you. This also guarantees you to get laid if you brought a lady-friend.
Bring a gun...if that don't work...bring more gun.
While I agree that bringing a firearm is a meme, some of the fear we feel is just natural. We weren't always the apex predator and straying far from the fire at night probably wasn't a good idea back in the day.
Fear doesn't have to be rational, but you also can't let irrational fears stop you from doing something as fun as going /out/.
I'm not a religious type, but I do make offerings to local gods or spirits when in foreign lands and buy lucky charms...I don't know habit or hobby for me.
I bless my CLP and anoint my guns that way.
Ok, I'm just saying that the idea that you need a gun to be safe while /out/ting is false. If it helps you get over your irrational fears, go for it. If you /out/ in one of the few places where you actually need it for protection, go for it. If you like doing hippy spirit offerings and it involves guns, I'm not going to stop you.
The smell of smoke is going to ward off wild animals, because they've most-likely ran into a human group with a fire pit.
Lions stalk at dawn and dusk, but they usually scope their meal from high. They won't go after you, too many smaller animals to chase.
If you keep your tent and person clear of the smell of food, you'll be fine. Smoke and snoring will scare them. If you don't snore, they won't find you anyway.
Coyotes can patrol in groups. They sound scary at night, but they're too skiddish to go after a human.
Goatmen will kill you though. If you start smelling copper, you're probably going to die.
>And remember, man is the most dangerous animal of all, and a majority of wild animals prefer to stay WAY clear of you. For everything else, there's handguns and knives.
That's all fine and good but I'm scared of demons, skinwalkers and other supernatural shit. I never believe in them but as soon as I am alone in the woods I start panicking.
My older cousin Charlie was always afraid of the woods, especially at night and we used to make fun of him for being a little baby when we were all little kids together.
He lived out in the country and was surrounded by dense forest so it made no sense to me that he'd be so scared of something that he'd grown up around. Finally years later when we were at a family reunion and I was 18 and he was 20, he confided in me why he was so scared of the woods. He said that they had a woodpile for the house that was pretty close to the forest and his dad would make him go get wood from there at night a few times a year, and that he could always hear whispering in the woods when he got close enough. Menacing whispers and he just knew somehow that they were calling for him to come into the woods.
He was fine being in the woods during the day, and he eventually got brave enough to go hunting during the day all by himself. But he'd always go hunting in the morning so that he wouldn't risk being caught alone in the woods at night.
Well a couple years after that, he'd probably be about 23 years old, he was out hunting in those woods and somehow became lost. This was in super rural Idaho so there was no cell reception at his parent's house or in the forest.
His parents were starting to get worried because he'd been gone all day and night had fallen. They were outside looking towards the forest and discussing what to do, when they saw a flare go up above the woods about 2 miles or so in the distance.
They got their flashlights and dogs and went as quickly as they could in the direction of the flare. When they got there they found their son lying on the ground, eyes wide open with a look of fear and disbelief, dead.
He had an autopsy done of course, and the doctor said he had a congenital heart defect that had been undetected previously. But we knew the truth. Something in the woods had been waiting for him all these years. And it finally got him.
congrats, doesn't matter if the other person is a crazy guy trespassing on public lands with a gun, crotch hunting dogs, and has surgical bone saws on his person. You just fired a gun at another human being NOT on your property or in your home. They will tend to believe the other party over you. Only way you can get away with a gun as defense is if you are a police officer, current/past military man, or a good looking woman. Just invest in a stun gun with firing pin cartridges, mace(bear, moose grade), and a dog. Only bring a gun if you have permission to hunt/license/tags in said state. Much better to have a REASON for said gun.
Also all those supernatural shit you are afraid of, are mostly people who KNOW they can get away with getting rid of the stranger who didn't spend hundreds at a hotel/businesses/stores/licensing.
That and you are fucked as shit when a skinwalker or such is involved. Ask any surviving peoples living on reservations about that shit. And understand nothing.
>Goatmen will kill you though
That's anti-goat propaganda spread by fleshgaits (or as the uninformed call them, skinwalkers).
At worst, Goatmen will wreck your camp while you're asleep or away.
don't bring women along though, it might trigger some
You legitimately, truly, absolutely, comprehensively, fully, completely do not know what your are talking about. Please never try and talk about that again, God rest your soul.
Nobody listen to him, he knows very little about this process.
I was always afraid of the Nöck when i was a kid because old people told lots of stories.
i didn't like dark waters and plants touching my feet while swimming.
then i grew older and forced myself to swim in those waters at night and now i am okay with it.
still afraid of the unearthly ones though
you faggots are retarded, the only thing that can fuck you up in the woods are other humans, bears, wolves, mountain lions and maybe a few other animals that I'm forgetting. Stop spreading lies over internet and grow the fuck up.
Keep in mind that these are stories told to me:
>Be humping gear innajungle at 2am
>Cant even see hand in front of face
>black on black shadows flitting between trees
>them yellow men wearing black pyjamas
>sudden hand to hand scuffle with unknown
>Get flashlight out after defeating assailant
>pure black figure with large cloak on it
>Before a decent look is had creature scrambles out of flashlight beam and back amongst tree
>2 seconds later, platoon is surrounded on all sides by VC
>spends next 2 years in hanoi hotel
Im probably missing parts of this story, and i dunno how true it is.
no, it leads to the dark side anon
>sit down at the base of a mighty tree
>trip balls while you're slowly eaten alive by ants
>one with nature
>browsing this thread
>haha, this weenie is scared of the dark
>what the fuck is a goatman though?
>The Goatman of Maryland refers to a legendary half-goat half-human cryptid that has the head and hindquarters of a goat and the body of a human.
>According to urban legend, the Goatman is an axe-wielding half-animal, half-man creature that was once a scientist who worked in the Beltsville Agricultural Research Center. The tale holds that he was experimenting on goats, the experiment went awry, and he began attacking cars with an axe, roaming the back roads of Beltsville, Maryland.
>tfw I'm from MD
>tfw live near Beltsville
>tfw right down the road from the Agricultural Research Center
okay so, this is what runs through my brain even when i freak out at nighttime outside
How many times as anything bad happened /out/?
i run those words through my head and they instantly calm me down
you know why? because NOTHING ever happens outside, bar one or two really fucking weird experiences but they were drug related so they kinda dont count..but for real at that point i swear there was something prowling our bush killing our possums and owls and shit...but lol. nah what i think is "I'm so fucking king of this area, nothing is going to fuck with me. If i wanted to stand on this log for an hour i could and nothing would stop me." i know thats a retarded way to think but its moreso backing yourself up, if you look and feel confident and also have light, nothings going to fuck with you.(for the most part)
Yea, I need to buy a new gun each time I go outdoors..
Fuck outta here faggot. There are niggers outdoors and even a couple in the woods. I encountered two today in Spring Mountains National Recreation Area in Nevada.
I'm the same way, normally very rational and I don't believe in anything supernatural, but when I'm sleeping out under the stars in the dark, suddenly I'm paranoid.
>What if I'm wrong and there's all kinds of unknown shit out there?
Think about the vast, crushing infinity of the universe you live in and all the countless stars and bodies that move through it millenia after millenia. Understand there is so much we cannot perceive or comprehend with the tiny cone of senses our little carbon-based body has granted us, that there is fucking nothing you can do about it, and chill out under the stars listening to the sound of the wind and trees. Some hypothetical imaginary goat man doesn't seem so scary after that. But yeah YMMV.
I live in oregon and get super paranoid innawoods.
Every sound is a bigfoot...
>waste entire life on 4chan
>to busy(lazy) to watch youtube video
Well it was a radio interview, so not even a video. Plus I had SportsCenter on TV, then my landlord came through, then I had to pick doge up from the vet, then I went fishing.
All while shitposting a little on the side.
>It didnt even have a video
So? Are you special Ed or something? You cant just listen to people talk without moving images? You are that fucked in the head?
>then I went fishing.
In a National Park?
You gon' get clustered m8.
>your irrational fears
please explain 100% in detail how to go /out/ never having any violent encounters.
>drop acid with gf in woods
>wandering around the thorns and brush
>stumble across almost 100% intact deer skeleton
>nope right outta there before gf starts lunch boxing
>get to lake
>all of a sudden lots of people start showing up to the lake
>starts to rain
>we start bawling and cracking up
>get the hairy eyeball from everyone
>nope back to the deer
dress up like this... put blackmetal on your little iphone speaker... sit around the fire at night polishing some kind of huge ass knife or sword...