>>671279 meh can happen to any one. i was hiking in the alps started in nice sunny 20-25 °C. We a few hours later where almost at the top in the last saddle maybe at 2100 m. when a cloud passed through dropped it to -4°C with slushy rain. We Knew there was a good chance of rain and had good jackets but not this kind of drop in temperature. The Whole thing only lasted 2 hrs and after 2 more the sun was back but we had already aborted the summit and crossed the saddle for a alternative descent route.
>>671263 though i prefer pic related bivi since i could use it with a sleeping bag on other trips. but so far i have not come again into a situation where it would more then a nice to have gimmick. but its kinda like a airbag or a swim vest. its useless 98% of the time.
>>671263 Swiss alps here, depends on. >how far away are you from the next shelter, in walking hours >how bad can the weather turn out, just a short lightning storm or a full out blizzard? Summer or winter? >are you soloing?
I bring at least my shell jacket. That plus a space blanket. If you bring a long a sleeping bag, you might as well bring a bivy bag and a foam mat.
That said, you really don't want to surprise camp in a storm, study the weather forecast and mark permanent shelters on your map. Usually it pays to race for the nearest shelter/hut and wait it out there. Ask the locals/oldtimers for weather advice when you meet them,
If you still get caught in a storm, get away from exposed places and ridges, if possibly go to the nearest valley. Stay away from creeks and try to hunker down in some trees. Stay away from big single trees out in the open, they are lightning poles.
>>671263 I looked into these myself last year, in the end i decided not to bother. it came down to the old cheap= heavy and bulky thing.
you can buy a 2 man shelter that is a little larger than a 1ltr nalgene bottle for around £35, it'll weigh around a 500g
you can buy a 2 man 'light weight' version that will weigh around half that and take up half the space, but youre talking £80-90
in the end I decided it wasn't really worth the packspace/weight to have one 'just in case' and the one I would have considered buying was just to expensive to justify as a very occasional use ( if ever) item
As a canoe and kayak guide in the UK this peice of kit gets used constantly! If your having a lunch break and need to get out of the wind and rain it is perfect. Its also great for boosting the morale of the group as you very quickly warm up inside. I currently have 2. One that is a 4-6 man and the other is 8-10 man. An expensive bit of kit but alot lighter and more practical than a tent or a tarp and packs down to less than a nalgene bottle.
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