Folding knives

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Should have gone in the knife thread or sharp thread or whatever is going on currently but whatever
My beater edc rat2
And my new edc benchmade mini barrage that I haven't started beating on

Also have a rat1 as a backpack knife /kit knife and a tenacious I used to edc but have since replaced becuase I prefer a knife that doesn't have serrations

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Ontario RAT 1

It's been abused

>>657114
Am the post above you, you actually edc the rat1 its just too big for me
I bought both the rat 2 and rat 1 at the same time and while I abuse the rat 2 daily the rat one has become a backpack /kit knife I don't use as often

>>657113

>bitchmade
>spydergoy
>fagniven

>>657121
Benchmade has been nice so far (though I haven't had it for too long
Spyderco was a gift though I would buy a spyderco again for the right price
>fagniven
What?

>>657127

Some Swedish cuck brand commonly called Fallkniven

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>>657100
A bunch of cheap shit I have gotten for free over the years.

I'm thinking about dropping some $$ on a nice full-sized Leatherman for fishing

>>657116
Yeah i Edc the rat 1. I carry in back right pocket, and a lot of times i forget if carrying or not.


I've never actually held the rat 2, i just liked the 1 so much that i bought another as a spare.

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>>657134
I actually like that little Snap-On knife though. Found it in a Walgreens while I was working like a year ago. Forgot all about it until I found it under the seat of my car a couple weeks ago.

>muh callouses

>>657132
Oh that shots too expensive for me >>657137
I should try it in my rear pocket,

The rat 2 is smaller (will take a picture later ) but the same quality

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>>657143
Does it still carry the same sort of warranty?

>Replaced my Wenger Ranger in about May

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Skeletool CX because sometimes you need pliers and screwdrivers.

>>657166
Maybe. But it is some $15 knife. I would just buy a new one if I liked it that much.

>>657171
I'm digging these. I need to stop by Dick's or Bass Pro and see if they have one. I need a nice multitool for fishing.

What other multi-tool brands are good? And how much do those Skeletons normally run?

I don't need a giant, heavy one with a million tools. I need something with decent pliers and a sharp blade. Preferably nice long pliers for getting hooks out, but nice and light so I can carry it in my pocket. Maybe around $50, but up to $100 if I fall in love with it.

>>657176

Not an expert on this shit mate. Would recommend the Skeletool though because it's significantly smaller and lighter than the rest of the Leatherman tools.

Multitools are always going to be a bit of a compromise between blade size, number/type of other tools and size/strength of the pliers. The Skeletool strikes the balance pretty well perfectly for me.

Money doesn't factor into the equation. It's a tool. Get the best every time. Save money somewhere else in your life.

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>>657194
Heh I just asked the question in the knoife thread. I was looking at the Skeletool, it is nice because it doesn't have a million things I don't need when it will just be for fishing 95% of the time.

Any idea on the difference between the regular one and the CX? It is a $30 difference and they look the same aside from the color.

>>657198

Probably a minuscule weight difference. I've had both.

Lost the stainless one, went to some shop to replace it and all they had was the CX. No real difference IMO.

There are serrated and non-serrated blades in both the CX and regular models though. I prefer non-serrated so went with that. Make sure you check before you buy.

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>>657200
It looks like the CX is actually just the coated handle. I think they are exactly the same apart from that fancy tungsten-whatever coating.

I also saw pic related. The Leatherman Freestyle and Gerber Cruicial. They are both around $50 and don't seem to have a ton of extra stuff. I need to look into the Freestyle more, I saw it on Gander Mountain's website but the pics and info were limited. Only tool it showed was the knife. I'm also curious about the weight and size.

I'm definitely going to buy at a store as opposed to online. It's hard to tell actual size and weight and make sure they are compact if I order online. Looks like almost everybody has the Skeletools in-store so I'm probably going to end up with that. Not sure whether $90 is worth the coated handle on the CX versus $60 for a regular.

There is a huge gun store right down the road, I might go check out that place. They could have a good selection. And grab an application for a FOID card so I can buy a Glock. Otherwise I will just hit up Dick's or Bass Pro.

>>657198
>>657208

The regular skeletool has 420HC steel for the blade, whereas the CX has the 154CM steel for the blade a part of the handle is carbon fibre.

I bought my cx for the blade steel, as i HATE 420 steel.

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ordered this from amazon, great reviews and cheap

>>657264

It's pretty much a rip off of Rat 1/2...You'll Love it.

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New edc, gerber fast serrated

>>657220

420 sucks.
420hc doesn't.

420hc and 440c are the two decent, low-budget stainless steels.

>>657220
>>657280
So is the CX worth the $90? Or just grab the regular for $60?

It's not going to see any crazy abuse. But I'd like to hang onto it for a few years.

Kershaw, sharpest out of the package and can't beat the price. ......

>>657330
I'd vote for the wave.

It's bulkier, but they're great

>>657265
$26 canadian before shipping, was originally looking at spyderco but $150-200 for paramilitary 2 !!

>>657401
http://www.amazon.ca/Ontario-8848-Folding-Knife-Black/dp/B0013ASG3E

Rat 1 shipped for $40CAD

>>657264
It's pretty a pretty decent folder considering the price for about 15$, but a RAT 1 or 2 is a great buy for around 30$.

I recently got a Ganzo myself because I love my RAT's and the Axis lock on my Benchmade folders.
The things I don't like is that the blade needs a lot more force to open and close (The RAT 1 and 2 are really smooth).
The "Axis" lock is really stiff and not very grippy at all and it's a bit more recessed into the handle compared to what it is on Benchmade folders. I don't like it much and it feels cheap.

I really like the G10 handle though, but I don't think a Ganzo is worth a whole lot more than 15-20$.

>>657401
Buy from warriorsandwonders in BC, cheapest prices in Canada on average.

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Old pic from a phone with a potato camera. Left to right, Case stockman, Moore Maker trapper, Uncle Henry stockman, Camillus trapper, Case locking jackknife. The Moore Maker is the only one less than 30 years old.

>>657100
I've been carrying that knife for the last four or five years and it's been great. At first I was a little skeptical about getting a China-made Spyderco (especially because I live about 25 min from their US factory), but it's been just as good as my US made knives at about 1/3 the cost. Apparently they use decent materials and have good QC wherever they're made.

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>>657363
Got the Skeletool.

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>>657430
Here are my Victorinox folders.

>>657435
Nice dude!

Get the bit kit for it, it comes in handy

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Buck Bantam.

My favorite knife I own. It's not expensive, very light, keeps an edge, and locks into place solid.

I have a Mora too, and for the price, I don't know why the Buck isn't the go to /out/ knife.

>>657435
Thanks Mr. Skeletool

>>657478
Most people will go for a fixed blade to use as an /out/ knife.

Also, I'd personally get a Ontario RAT 1 or a Gerber Freeman folder before i get a bantam. I be handled the rat, bantam and freeman, and i personally think the bantam wasnt as nice as the others (same price point). The bantam, however, did come insanely sharp.

>>657478
>I don't know why the Buck isn't the go to /out/ knife.

Because nuBuck is cheap fudd crap. A $15 mora will serve you better.

>>657502
>Most people will go for a fixed blade to use as an /out/ knife.
My dad went /out/ for 60 years and never carried a fixed blade knife. That doesn't mean a fixed blade isn't the right choice, and I always carry one, but shows it can be done. Dad carried a stockman exactly like my Case up in >>657430, and so did his dad.

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from china with love

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sanrenmu

>>657143

You a mechanic by any chance?

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>>657928
Are you guessing based on the Snap On or the hands and callouses?

Either way, no. Not by trade.

>>657504
I have both the Bantam and a $15 mora. I find the Bantam much better for my needs.

>>657277
Nice meme faggot

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here's what i got

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>>658169

sweet bird motorcycle knife

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>>657100
So, I'm shopping for a folder, and as far as durability over time, what's better, lock back, frame lock, or a liner lock?
The knife I had was a lock back and it had quite a bit of play then folded out.

And can I get some recommendations?
My budget is around $40 and I'm looking for a knife for everyday use (no hunting), unpainted blade (chipped paint looks really bad), non-cumbersome and light, and something that is non-assisted but can still really be opened with one hand.
I was looking into the Gerber Freeman and Obsidian (I know the screwdrivers on it are a joke, but I care for the blade), but was also looking at the LST due to it's light weight.

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Nothing amazing here, just ok. The blue one is the cheapest one, probably made in China and it cost me around 100 kroner (equivelant to 10 usd), so it got most of the abuse. It held up surprisingly well considering I've used it to pry things and so on. I've actually owned folders that were less robust than this one.

>>658151
huh?

>>659245
Avoid Gerber. For $40, go for the spyderco tenacious, Kershaw leek, or Kershaw cryo.

>>657171
i have a cx excellent edc carry for city boys that's it.
for outdoors it's lacking for work it's lacking but i find something i can use it for almost every day even in my office. sadly the most used part is the bottle opener to be honest, then the blade then the pliers and then the screwdrivers.

>>659281
gerber started to provide info for their blade steels and pays more attention to quality control and functional design than a few years ago, i still wouldn't buy it just yet simply because of the price. if they would cost a lot less i would buy gerber stuff but as it is not worth it.

>>659245
Get a Rat 1/2 depending on your size preference or if you prefer a frame lock to a liner lock then a Esee/BRK Avispa/Zancudo

>>659302
who in his right mind would prefer either?

>>659306
?

>>659311
both locks are basically the same shit anon.

>>659312
I get what you're saying but in those examples the Esee/BRK knives have only one zytel scale, the other is metal where the framelock bar is whereas the Ontario knives are zytel both sides and IMO feel nicer in the hand, also the linerlock is easier to operate in said example.

>>659314
well i had a liner lock knife once... they are more easy to operate than my current one but i don't trust them one bit. i consider liner lock to be only sufficient to prevent closure of blade under it's own weight, most liner locks i handled i could force close.

>>659317
Yeah I'd agree there but generally my folders only get used lightly, any rough work gets done with a fixed, I suppose if I was going to beat on a folder I'd probably buy a Benchmade or a CS with the triad.

>fällkniven usually shilled to no end
>thread about folding knives
>no fällkniven

the name fällkniven literally means "The folding knife" and that has always been their original product. they have liner-lock, lock-back and slip-joint

blows the crap out of american garbage brands

t. shill

>>659318
i have a triad cs you should really try one before buying. it's awesome in the rigidity and strength department. but handling is something else. easy one handed open and close is not a thing. closing one handed is especially hard not impossible just hard and dangerous. but if you can't carry a fix blade it's the next best thing. it requires some strength to disengage the lock most likely even girls can do it but they won't like it.

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>>659319
>blows the crap out of american garbage brands

>Started out as a company selling American garbage brands
>Now subcontracts it's knives to the same place as said American garbage brand
>mfw

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>>659320
Cheers for the heads up.

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Ive had one of pic related for a few months now and Im aware that /out/ hates serrated edges but aside from that, any other validated opinions on the brand/model?

>>659281
Those Kershaw knives look nice, but, could you fill me in as to why I should avoid Gerber?
They don't look bad for $20.
I know they're cheap, but I don't like spending a lot of money on tools if I know it's going to perform as well as another for less.
It doesn't feel as bad if I lose it or if something happens to it.

>>659362

It won't perform as well as other tools for less. Unless you're buying the more upmarket Gerbers I would avoid them completely. With cheaper Gerber models you're getting the same materials as you do on a $2 keychain knife you can buy from your local gas station just with the Gerber name printed on. Save yourself the $18 and buy the gas station special or buy something like a Ganzo or SanRenMu.

>>659367
also worth noting that the more expensive gerbers are still way overpriced for what they can do. basically they ask for a lot of money for their tacticool autistic designs nothing else.

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Here are my main two users for /out/

Opinel is lightweight, easy to keep shaving sharp.

Other folder is a Sanrenmu and is my beater

>>657100
Spyderco has become my favorite folding knife maker.
I used to carry a SOG Flash II, then a Kershaw Leek and now I carry a Spyderco Paramilitary 2 and love it, but I might pick up a Dragonfly in ZDP-189 or a Manix 2 LW in S110V

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Love these threads! Bk15 is a favorite, especially as a steak knife

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Same knife on my canoe day trip last Sunday. What a beaut

>>657100
Oh shit, didn't read the post lol. I am bombing this thread with my heathen fixed blade sorry bros

>>657143
ss/gomad?

>>659373
Not that guy, but I was looking at a single knife from their catalog but apparently they ruin all their products by only making serrated models. It brings me great shame as an Oregonian that Gerber has sunk so low.

>>659452

>in the folding knife thread

The average BK&T patron folks.

When it comes to blades, how good is a 420HC steel on a $20 knife?

>>659703

Fine

whats your opinions on Opinels? i have 6, 9 and 11 all in carbon

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For under $15, which is more worth it, Kershaw Shuffle ($14), Kershaw Crown ($10), or Gerber LST ($12)?
I'm leaning towards the Crown for how it looks, as an every day knife. Pretty tasteful compared to the tacticool polymer look of modern looking knives.

>>660198
Shuffle is a fine little knife plus it has the built in bottle opener

>>659245
I have an Old Timer with a liner lock that's about 40 years old. Frame lock is probably most durable, old-school lockback the least. Avoid Gerber like the plague, they hold an edge like warm butter.

>>660472
>Frame lock is probably most durable, old-school lockback the least.
you couldn't have said anything more stupid and uneducated
grats

>>660229
yeah it kinda needs it cause just about any folder of fixed knife can be used to easily open bottles with the spine but that fucking shuffle is just plain useless in this regard.

>>659826
Low price point, lightweight, simple design, carbon stays pretty damn sharp. I use my No. 8 everyday at work.

>>662902

I love the opinel locking mechanism but I've been spoiled by modern folder thumb studs. I hate having to use both hands to open knife. I'd use my opinel #8 more if it had a stud. Do new opinels have thumb studs? Mine's about 20 years old.

>>662907
>I love the opinel locking mechanism
it's interesting to say the best about it, but it would be insane to trust your fingers on it

>>662913

The opinel locking mechanism is at least as sturdy as a liner lock. It's a ring of metal that prevents the blade from closing, whereas a liner lock can just slip a little and close.

>>662919
this ring looks like it could pop right off from minimal force nothing really keeps it in place
i would say opinel lock is probably the weakest and least reliable i ever seen.

>>662907
No thumb studs. They upgraded the locking ring a little bit about ten years ago.

I find that I can pull the blade a little bit open in my pocket with a fingernail then open it with my thumb anyways though. After using it daily for a while I'm fairly proficient at one handed using my opinel.

What do y'all think of Case knives?

>>663077
they look like shit

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Anybody looking for a new folder? I found the deal of the month. This knife is $130+ on other websites.

>>663111

ur mom looks like shit.

>>663077

Some of them are alright, but I'd rather buy Queen or Great eastern Cutlery.

>>663855
>ur mom looks like shit.
she does but case knives look like the most rancid bloody diarrhea filled with worms

>>664296

Plenty of them look just fine to me. Do you have a problem with classic folders? Or do you just think every knife they make is Rough Rider teir shit?

>>664388
dunno i just went to their site took a look at the knives int the fix and folder sections and was utterly disgusted

>>664315
Ah, your EDC sausage?

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>>664315
Heh, somebody saw my corndog EDC

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>>657100
I carry a Benchmade Auto Stryker 9101 daily. It's been heavily abused in its lifetime.
Occasionally a Kershaw Breakout 7000 that has been babied and has issues with the safety mechanism that I've yet to resolve via their warranty. That's mainly why I don't carry it often.

I carry an Old Timer 70T for hunting (processing game). It's an older American made one with Scrade+ steel. Excellent edge retention in my opinion and by far my favorite knife. Pic related.

>>663077
I've got a carving knife with a Case XX blade. Awesome knife. Don't know anything past that.

>>657277
This thing SUCKS. Bought one like 7 years ago as a kid cause I thought it looked tacticool. It sucks. SUCKS! Why would there EVER be serration on a blade THIS SHORT?! IT MAKES BOTH CUTTING AND SAWING IMPOSSIBLE! JUST MAKE IT ONE OR THE OTHER! IDIOTS!

>>664391

I guess I didn't account for lack of taste on your part. Stick to Cold Steel.

Chris Reeve knives or nothing. Spyderco is fucking garbage.

>>657198
Since this is for fishing, let me just say that my Leathermans have had big issues with rusting. Beyond belief. Meanwhile my Victorinox knives are spotless.

So I'd recommend taking a look at the Victorinox Spirit. It's easily the best multi-tool I've ever owned as far as the quality and fit & finish.

the odd shape throws people off, but it is an awesome multitool.

>>665556
Yeah Victorinox/Wenger stainless is pretty damned stainless

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>>665556
Here's a pic. That mirror polish finish that Victorinox puts on their steel helps keep it from rusting I think.

Less surface area for rust to form on, unlike say, a bead-blasted finish.

>>664524
Haha, guess I see now why it's considered a meme... In truth I would've preferred a normal blade but the serrated one was a steal so I went with that because monies.
So far so good and considering this knife doesn't see very much use I'm happy.

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>>657100
Just got me one of these

>>659360
it looks like a cheap piece of shit

>>657113
>Barrage.
My man

>>665664
Mini
I really like it though , I have trouble finding a knife that fits my hand well enough and is light enough to carry
The barage is a bit small but a nice knife none the less

>>665567

That the hap40?

They're meant to be pretty tits awesome.

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Pic related

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>>664498
>I carry an Old Timer 70T for hunting (processing game). It's an older American made one with Scrade+ steel. Excellent edge retention in my opinion and by far my favorite knife. Pic related.

I like your taste anon. The Buck 110 (and clones like your 70T) is a legendary design.

I have a a few bucks all of which are good and the 110 is one of may favorite knives of all time.

>>657726
Edgy

>>665925
I'm also a fan of the older Buck 192. I sharpened one for a friend/neighbor of mine. GOOD steel, older ones were made with 440C I believe. The newer ones are 420HC.

I actually got the old timer when it fell off the fender of a trailer being pulled in front of me on the way to work. When I drove by I looked down and and saw "old timer" and immediately pulled over and went back to pick it up. I looked for the vehicle that it fell off of, but didn't see it and I've loved it ever since.

>>665898
It is the hap40, and it is tits awesome. I sliced up a pineapple with it and it put a nice patina on the hap40 section.

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Sodbuster in carbon feeber

>>666098

>>666107

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This is my field work and backpacking folder. Nothing special, but it's light and holds an edge. I think it's AUS-8 chromium stainless.

>>665962
>older ones were made with 440C I believe. The newer ones are 420HC.

Buck's 420HC is the best in the business due to their heat treating process. It's easy to sharpen and has good edge-retention. I'd consider taking a Buck 420HC over higher end steel from some other manufacturers.

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>>659320

What are you, a giant pussy?

I bought a 4 inch talwar from cs, opens like a dream and closes easily.

Why don't you get up from your computer and stop faulting quality knives on you atrophied hands.

It even has a wave open.

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>>666474
>What are you, a giant pussy?
projecting, projecting...
>I bought a 4 inch talwar from cs, opens like a dream and closes easily.
interesting i have the mini recon and it opens like the worst shit i ever handled and closes even worse. but i see my error not every triad has the same balance and geometry.
hence my advice fucking try it before buy it.
>Why don't you get up from your computer and stop faulting quality knives on you atrophied hands.
just go back to sucking dicks
>It even has a wave open.
good for you this is my biggest problem with mine it doesn't really work, you can do it if you hold it with two fingers at the back end but not with a normal grip. highly unsecure.

one hand closing it is really the worst tho. rest can be lived with.
i still like it being objectively the strongest lock out there. but not sure if it's a practical edc for everyone.

i shall try the full size recon to see if it's any better but 4" is illegal to carry here so that doesn't help me much i'm just curious.

>>664524
Serrations is not a meme, they are handy if you need to cut rope/fabric and the straight blade is a little dull.

>>666464
Aren't Bucks just fudd crap?

>>662852
Got a reason why? Frame lock blocks a big area of the tang, old-school lockback drops the tip of the spring in a small notch at the rear of the tang. They tend to round off after they've been opened and closed a lot.

>>663077
Never had a Case that wasn't a really good knife, and I've had several.

>>666098
I love sodbusters. Classic skinning blade, great for a million things, don't scare folks because they aren't all pointy-scary.

>>667065
Nope, they're a solid line that's been around forever because they offer really good blades for the money.

>>667213

I thought the new ones were pretty crappy steel but that the old ones were good.

>>667214
420HC isn't the best steel, but it's pretty maintenance-free and holds an edge reasonably well if it's heat-treated properly. Buck pays attention to that detail, so their knives do well.

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>>667214

They have lots of new ones with good steel. I'm often happy with Buck knives... the most common and often the only problem I have with them is the folding knives often have off-center blades when closed, and that's considered by some people to be OK as long as the lockup is good and it's not hitting the handle, I'm just OCD about it.

>>667211
>Got a reason why?
well for one there are many more locks than frame and liner, and many locks suck ass even more than a liner but many are more durable and more secure than a frame lock could ever be.

that about sums it up i think.

>>667215
frankly you will be hard put to show me a steel that won't be shit if heat treat is not done properly or done wrong in willful ignorance.

>>667236
True enough. Some steels are more finicky than others, though. I was just saying that I've had good luck with Buck knives being pretty solid regardless of which steel they've used.

>>667232
I didn't mention liner lock in the post to which you are replying, just the original lockabck and frame lock designs. Have any commonly produced lock designs that'll outlast a frame lock? I'm willing to listen and learn.

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>>657113
ayyyy

Just picked up the mini-barrage today. I ordered the full size barrage online but when I held it in store I realized how large it was. Hopefully I can cancel my order. The mini fits well in my hand though the assist will definitely take some getting used to.

>>667251
>Have any commonly produced lock designs that'll outlast a frame lock?
try new cold steel lockbacks
really the tri-ad lock is just a lockback the pin does not give it any extra strength despite what autists try to suggest.
the pin and the angles were modifications to let the lock self adjust to wear thus making the lock self adjusting capabilities and less rattle after abused.

so if you really look at it the lockback is the strongest lock design there is. of course you can build it pretty stupid weak if you wish to much is about the proportions angles material thickness and stuff.

>>667254
I've had really bad luck with cold steel knife blades being able to look tacticool and not being able to hold an edge, both of which I do not like. They making better stuff in the last few years?

>>667254
*lock self tightening capabilities
now lots of locks are capable of self tighten or wedge to compensate for wear but they usually come at the price of being able to force close. like many frame and liner locks and even the spiderco compression locks.

the cold steel tri-ad is a modified angle wedged lock-back. and it does not sacrifice lock security for wedging however it is harder to disengage than regular lock-backs that is what has been sacrificed.

>>667257
in 2015 they started to use a new steel which i don't have but supposedly an upgrade to the aus8. i'm unsure about the entire "tool steels" used for knives thing. also the code4 is a less tacticool counterpart of the recon series.

i keep my cold steel as a backup edc blade which means i don't use it regularly so i don't know how well it keeps an edge compared to my 154cm edc. it is a fallback option for me that i can trust to keep together no matter what shit happens and even substitute a fix if i need it.

>>667259
I was looking around at their catalog after >>667254 suggested doing so. The Finn Wolf is interesting. Anybody got one?

>>667260
>pukko style folder with tri-ad lock
i will not lie i have a small boner

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Bought a Fällkniven U4.
Used it to cut open a cardboard box, had to cut some plastic straps and the blade wouldn't cut so I pushed harder. Crap, the edge folded instead, it wouldn't cut through some plastic strap.
Time to grind it.
My kid's gloves had an itching washing instructions note. "Don't worry son, I'll cut it off for you"...holy shit it doesn't cut through...had to push harder and got a folded edge again.
62 HRC hardness ladies and gentlemens!

>>667302
how is that even possible?
what angle is it grinded to?

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As fucked up as the US can be, Yurop sucks ass.

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>>667386
And to add, my main gripe with the Yuro knife laws is probably the locking blade part.

Anon in the UK was asking about the Skeletool. The knife blade was just about at the legal limit, so he was good there. But one of my favorite features of the multi-tool, the locking blade, made it illegal to have as an EDC. The locking blade is definitely safer for the user over anything. How does it become a weapon with a locking blade?

Also, what is the deal with fixed blades? They're probably illegal, right?

I don't even know US laws. I thought most states are something like <4", not a switchblade, no double-sided blades, and no butterfly knives. But this only applies if it is concealed. So if I wear a switchblade or butterfly knife or 6" double-sided blade visibly on my belt, I should be fine.

But with FL, I can carry anything if I'm /out/. You can conceal carry a gun without a CC permit in FL if you are hunting and fishing I believe. Either way, I'm not afraid of carrying around a Leatherman in my pocket.

End rant. If somebody can correct me on the US laws, I'm open to it. But they do vary slightly between states.

>>667393
>Yuro knife laws
different for each country
for example the poles don't give a fuck what you carry everything goes.
the britcucks are indeed uber retarded about this.

in hungary where i live you can carry up to 8 cm except for ballistic knives, auto-switchblades and ballisongs. you can carry above 8cm blades if justified by activity or occupation for example you want to practice bushcraft then you can carry a 4" mora or probably even a foot long jungle knife. however the police will decide if it's justified or they take it away and you are fined. this decision is probably made by your skin color and manners and how was the cops morning.
and of course because cops don't carry rulers they can pretty much confiscate any knife if they don't like you but it's usually only done in case of protests hooliganism and riots.

>>667386
>>667393
be more specific instead of dragging all of europe into this
there is a big variety between countries

for example in my country, a knife is a knife
they don't put restrictions on what type we can own, wether it's locking mechanism, folder, fixed blade, blade length

I bet 90% of the times when americans are complaining about "yuro knife laws" they are actually talking about UK knife laws!

>>667253
Noice, how's the gring on the very tip of your blade, mine was actually slightly off , doesn't bother me though
The main perk of the assisted opening I have found is how easy it is to open when wearing gloves no mater how bulky, same thing with when your hands are cold
Super easy to snap open and not too bad to close
Carry is a bit shallow for my liking but il live with it

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I was about to ask "Esee Avispa or Ontario Rat 1". Then as I was putting this little pic together, I realized they are exactly the same knife. The only difference is the Rat 1 has the nylon handle on both sides while the Avispa is nylon on one side and steel on the other side of the handle. I'm guessing the Esee design makes it slide out of your pocket better if you use the clip.

Anyway, I have been looking at the Kershaw Leeks, but I kinda want a plastic grip, not straight metal. Spyderco's look too goofy and tacticool (a lot of nice folders are like that) and Benchmade prices are stupid for something I am going to beat up.

The Rat 1 and Avispa look decent for $30, right?

>>667398
It was mainly the UK laws, which is why I mentioned anon in the UK who couldn't carry a Leatherman. But I assumed a lot of Yuro countries (civilized ones in the West at least) had some similar laws after reading that knife description.

>/pol/ prediction: The UK will be a communist country with Sharia Law soon.

>>667406
varies a lot
>French law does allow the carrying in public of a folding knife of "reasonable size".
Denmark is about as retarded as UK
>Greece: It is illegal to carry a knife for use as a weapon in attack or defense. (no other restrictions but intended use)

>>667400
Rat 1 is on the large side for edc in my opinion
I know there's an anon here who does edc it but for me its just a bit big

Though it's a great bag knife

The rat 1 flicks open really really nicley for the pric

>>667399
Mine is fine, sorry to hear that about yours. Worth noting, as I picked it out of my pocket it opened on me which was a surprise. Though it does have the nifty locking feature. And I hadn't thought about that, gloves and cold. cool, thanks.

>>667414
>reasonable size
I hate laws like that. What does that even mean?

And the Greece law, what is the difference between a tool and a weapon? Just seems like something they can charge somebody with after a threat or assault.

>>667429
The Rat 1 did seem a little large. That Esse one is the exact same size (because it is the same knife). There is also the Esse Zancudo which is a 3" blade instead of the 3.5". That makes it 7" open instead of 8.5" like the Avispa and Rat 1. I'm gussing it is the same thing as the Rat 2.

It's amazing how cheap those folders become just by making them in Taiwan. There has to be a reason they don't put the effort into their folders like they do their fixed blades.

>>667438
Even though they're made in tiwan what experience I've had with them (I have a rat 1 and 2) has been nothing but good

>>667441
I'm sure they're decent. Supposedly that factory in Taiwan is the place to get your shit made if you want it done right in Asia. I would gladly pay $30 instead of $230 for a Benchmade.

I kinda want to buy it at a retail store tho. I don't think Bass Pro carries Ontario, and I know they don't carry Essee. Dick's doesn't either, and their selection kinda sucks. I would be down with another CRKT or Kershaw if I see something I really like, but for $30 the Rat 2 and Zancudo look nice.

Does Sports Authority carry any decent knives? I stopped shopping there since they got rid of their fishing department.

>>667451
In addition to not shopping at Sports Authority the other day, REI has ridiculous prices for stuff from what I have seen online so fuck that place.

And I told Cabela's I'm not ordering from them anymore because their customer service is useless.

>>667438
>I hate laws like that. What does that even mean?
whatever the policeman decides
in case of french i suspect: if you carry an opinel they leave you alone but woe to you if you carry foreign made knives

>>667454
Heh. Better carry something German.

What is their opinion on fhe USSR?

>>667451
I bought my benchmade from rei for cheaper then online and I got both my rat 1 and two off of amazon

Next on my list is a Kershaw Emerson wave opener
Cabellas has decent knife selection if you go there
Rei has higher end stuff
Haven't been to sa I yeara

>>667451
I just picked up a 9" Bubba Blade Stiffie at Sports Auth. on sale + another $10+ off in rewards dollars.
cost me $35 Love the feel of it and the handle. Haven't really used it yet.

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>>667438
*cough*

RAT 1

>>667470
I'm suprised you got a good deal at REI. Shit I was looking at on their website all seemed to be $5-$10 more expensive than Dick's and Bass Pro.

I don't have an REI anywhere close to me anyway. Nor a Cabela's. Plus I talked some shit to Cabela's after a little online order, I told them I will continue to be a loyal Bass Pro customer. There are two BPS's close to me. Other than that, I go to Dick's sometimes or there is a Gander Mtn like 45min away if they have a good sale or something.

>>667472
I check Sports Authority sometimes online to see if they have any crazy deals, but I haven't bought anything from them in so long. Too bad they got rid of their fishing section, there is a store right down the street that I would probably be at all the time.

And the rewards points reminds me that I need to collect on some old Bass Pro reciepts. I stopped by there today and finally signed up for the card. I have hundreds of $$ worth of old reciepts I need to get the points for. Should be at least $50 in rewards, maybe closer to $100.

>>667480
I really want to see them in person. The gun store by me might have them. I have a feeling the Rat 1 is a little too big for me. And the Esse is the exact same knife with a different name on it. The Rat 2 and that other 3" blade Esse do look a little different tho. Either way, something like that I want to try and see IRL before I order it so I can see if it will be comfy in my pocket all day.

How come nobody here really shills for Ka-Bars? Ka-Bar has some cool stuff. They have a copy of the Esse Izula that I was thinking about for a minute.

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>>667487
Don't know if this will help

Kabar tdi
ESEE candiru
ESEE Izula
Rat 1
Leatherman wave

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>>667487

>>667395

That's almost exactly the same as the UK's laws you smelly germanic.

>>667400
>spyderco knives look tacticool

wat

>>668431
Not as bad as SOG's, but that hole they put in the blade, I can't get past it. Tools are supposed to be built mainly to function the best they possibly can, not look intense and dangerous. And the Spyderco's remind me of some $10 knife they sell at the gas station because of it. I wouldn't buy one solely because of that, unless I got one for super cheap on clearance of course.

I like the grips they do on a lot of those Spydercos tho.

>>668435
You're a fucking idiot

The hole was the original one handed opening method, invented by Spyderco not to look intense or dangerous (which it fucking doesn't), but to make their folders user friendly
To this day they're the most ergonomic method of one handed opening

>>668451
I may be an idiot, but still not a fan of the look. I said it was strictly opinion.

I see you're a Spyderco owner. I hope you enjoy it.

>>668435
Like the other guy said, Spyderco originated that thumbhole (rather than a thumb stud which came first).

The reason for it is so that it is easier to open the knife one-handed with work gloves or winter gloves on, unlike a thumbstud.

It's interesting to me that you think the spydie-hole looks "intense and dangerous", most people think it looks goofy and utilitarian.

>>668456
Idk if "tacticool" was the right word, I wouldn't say "utilitarian" either, but the shape of the blade with the hole reminds me of the kinves for $9.99 behind the gas station counter. They always have goofy ass designs to try and stand out so kids and meth heads will make an impulse buy.

Thumb stud thing has worked fine for me. And the Byrd knife hole looks even worse.

>>668458
i think goofy is the exact right word

>>667707
nah britcucks can't carry anything locking or fix even under 3".
which is shame cause non-locking tools are retarded.
also all multitools basically wtf?

>>660198
Coast bx309 at home depot right now for $9

>>665556
I need to remember that brand because I kill multi tools over the course of months, it's why I've been getting those cheap husky and cobalt ones, the rest all die the same in my experience

>>669262
The only ones I can find at my local home depot has a serrated blade, and I have no use for serrations. Also they're harder to sharpen, plus the blade being painted means it'll look pretty bad after a while.
I was considering the Kershaw Crown because it has decent steel (for the price), looks nice, and is very unintimidating so less people get iffy with it around.

>>669359
The great thing about it being $10 is I don't give a shit if starts looking like dick

>>664418
>2015+1
>doesn't edc a linguica
>baka desu senpai

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>>669264
Shouldn't be too hard to remember the brand, because Victorinox makes the Swiss Army Knives that everyone grew up with.

>>668451
>To this day they're the most ergonomic method of one handed opening
Not the anon you've been talking to, but my fingers don't work like yours, apparently. I much prefer a thumb stud for opening knives 1-handed. Then again, I'm the guy who posted >>657430 and >>657442, so it should be obvious I like old-school knife patterns anyhow.

>>669534
>Victorinox makes the Swiss Army Knives
Post YOUR
Not a fucking web picture of a generic 'might be your knife'

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>>671144
Ok, here is my actual SAK Huntsman, that my grandfather gave me when I was 8, which was 26 years ago. It has seen a lot of use and abuse and kept on ticking.

I just noticed that I forgot to pull the saw out. I actually didn't realize it had a saw until almost a year after I got it. It blew my tiny little mind when I noticed it. (For those who don't have a SAK, the saw doesn't have a nail-nick like the other tools, so you open it differently).

>>659317
Most of my folders don't have locks. I don't mind, and they're just as safe as those which do if you remember you're using a knife without a lock.

>>671231
i wouldn't even use an unlocking knife to eat.

not so long ago i took out my multi to cut a tough plastic bag open at work and a fucking retard suddenly pushed himself back i his seat rotated the seat and got up. right into the back of my blade as i straightened my back and held it in front of me away from others.
if it wasn't for the lock the knife would have cut into the bone or worse.

>>667393
Stabbing someone/something is easier and less risky when using a lock knife because it won't close on your fingers. Apparently our government thinks that this means people will automatically go around stabbing people if they can carry lock knives. It's not that people like lock knives because of personal safety or anything.

The law was made for teenagers in big cities stabbing each other. Even though most of these types of stabbings aren't with lock knives anyway, they're with fucking steak knives or those "zombie killer" knives which are illegal to carry anyway. The fact that I can't carry a fucking lock knife in the countryside of northern England because some little cunts want to stab each other down south is fucking retarded. Saying that, I've got to be honest and say that I've never had a problem using a slipjoint for whatever I'm doing. But even then I would still like the option to make a tool safer for me to use.

>>671308
why not allow locking stab proof blunt tipped knives tho?
gb special

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>>671400
Looks gud

>>671308
They should just allow people to buy and carry guns. Stabbings would be less of an issue. But I really do think the safety of the user should outweigh the potential stabbings when it comes down to the locking mechanism. I just feel like it's much more likely for somebody to end up in the hospital as a result of an accident where the knife doesn't lock, compared to somebody getting stabbed specifically by a locking knife.

It's like Chicago's retarded gun laws. I think there is one that says you can't have a magazine that holds more than 6 rounds. But if somebody wants to shoot somebody else, the fact that they own a 6rd revolver instead of a 12rd Glock isn't going to change anything.

>>671562
Exactly. You said it better than I ever could have said it. If a teenager wants to stab someone he doesn't care if it's illegal to carry the knife, he does it anyway, be it with a lock knife or a kitchen knife.

>>671283
>I don't know how to hold ore use a folder: the admission

>>671562
>>671659
>>671308
>>671317

Cain killed Abel with a rock. Britbongs got around to banning those yet?

>>671308
How about sheetrock knives? Those lock.

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>>671945
Like this thing?

>>671958
A normal one with a push-button lock.

>>671991
Where the blade comes out like 1/3"? That would be retarded if they can't carry those.

think im going to buy another tenacious, maybe a paramilitary though im having trouble justifying spending the cash, think it would be worth it to buya chinese knockoff to see if i like the size lock etc?

>>674009
No. If you want to waste 5 bucks, waste it on shipping the paramilitary back to Amazon to try it out, instead of trying to judge a knife based on a different shitty knife.

>>674034
if you buy a spyderco from amazon youre going to get chinashit anaywas

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>>657100
My friend and i just cerakoted our kershaw cryos at the shop he works at.i like the blade, its sturdy and well-designed. I may put some talon grip material on the handle. I wish it was made in usa, and if the blade was engraved instead of etched we would have cerakoted that as well

>>659615
you really get off on posting this huh
i know it's you faggot

>>674076
you did the handle? it was grey before? i hear cerakote will rub off pretty easy, maybe better that you left the blade. i like it

>>674128
Yeah, it was more of a test before cerakoting other things like firearms. And it is rubbing off along edges, granted this was the air cure type cerakote opposed to heat or oven cure cerakote which is much more durable. And thanks

>>674038
Not if you buy directly from Amazon and not third-party sellers like some idiot

>>674122

>butthurt BK&T user detected

>>675046
gtfo tripfaggot