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Fishing Tackle Thread

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This addiction is getting expensive. Anyway I just grabbed myself a new rod and reel as an early Christmas present. What do you goys think? This my second President reel. Bought a regular President a couple months ago on reccommendations from the internet. Can't complain so far, but it is a slightly larger "medium" weight one while this is a "medium/light".

So let's make a thread where we post our tackle and forget how much money we wasted. Also mention what kind of fishing you do mostly. Largemouth, peacocks, and sometimes snakeheads for me. Whatever is biting the Mepps.

>tfw my fishing threads on /o/ move faster than the ones on /out/
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>>645323
I own a Stella. And I bought it an NRX rod to go on.

That and several Stradics so I am confirmed Shimano shill. Honestly, the Stella is nice but not even close to worth the money over a Stradic. NRX is pretty damn amazing though.

I like powerpro and it is pretty much all I fish with. I do mostly salmonoids here in AK we have tons. Steelhead and Kings mostly but I will slum Sockeye here and there. Lingcod and Halibut when I can get a ride on someone else's boat since I don't really have the gear for them yet.
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>>645349
I have been debating grabbing another Shimano reel. A few years back, I grabbed a Sienna ultralite reel. All the reviews had it as their best reel for under $50. It's nice. I almost grabbed a Sedona or whatever their next tier reel is when I bought that first Pflueger President.

My only problem with the Sienna is the ultralite reel is really small. Especially the spool for the line. I wouldn't want to run anything more than 2lb mono and that is too small for bass fishing. I used 10lb Power Pro (2lb diameter lol) and I would be suprised if I even got 75yds on there total. A long cast and I'm getting close to the mono backing.

Pic related is my current collection. The white reel is an Okuma I impulse bought for $30 at Dick's on Black Friday. Normally $60 or $70. And then I needed a rod at midnight and grabbed that Berkley Lightning Rod (Shock made for braid) from Walmart for $40 and I like it a lot. Bass Pro had them for $50 today and I almost bought another for this new reel when I was there today. But I wanted to try the Abu Garcia. Funny how they have tons of rods for $30-$50, and a bunch for $150-$200 but not much in between.
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>>645356
And my Mepps addiction is getting out of hand. They are by far my favorite lure ever. Today at a local lake, I was using a Mepps Dressed Agila #1 with a brown skirt and silver blade. In about 45min, I got 5 bream, 2 largemouth, and a peacock bass.
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thinking about getting a tenkara pole. haven't fished since i was 10
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>>645367
Do it. I didn't really fish for years until I picked back up again like 3 years ago.
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>complaining about how fast /out/ moves
Better to have long quality threads than short shitty threads. Anyway, the tackle I use most is my panfish setup, which is a Shakespeare Prius light action 5'0 two piece rod with a Mitchell Avocet II G2000 reel with (I think) 8lb test. It was my first "real" fishing setup and I've had it for as long as I can remember. It's caught many tasty dinners in its time. The rod is the perfect size for leaving in the car all open water season.

I wish it would get colder here, I'm itching for some ice fishing. Fucking El Nino or whatever's going on.
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>>645323
Love that President Limited Edition. I came very close to picking one up but decided to save the cash for when Lews gets their shit together and releases the Mach 1 combo. I was told via email from a Lews rep that they would be shipping mid November but here we are mid December and they haven't shipped shit.
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>>645361
where im from (australia) those 'Mepps' lures are just called spinners. and i fucking love them. I've caught everything from saltwater pelagics such as Trevally, queenfish and permit, to bream and flathead, to many freshwater fish such as Australian Bass, catfish, tarpon ect. they really are exceptional lures.

ok now my gear (pic related).
The top setup is a Gold Penn 850ss real on a heavy (8-10kg i think) Silstar crystal power tip rod. Pretty good setup for price (roughly $180), never had a problem with any of it.
The middle setup is a Shimano Stradic 5000 real on a Shakespeare Ugly Stik rod. Would recommend/10. I have pretty much abused the rod for over 10 years of fishing and it has never failed me. And real is also really good, very smooth handle and drag even after owning it for a while.
The bottom is my newest rod, which i also broke on its first trip /out/ 2 weeks ago. It is a Shimano Sahara rod, which broke in two without much pressure nor did i high end the rod. It was pretty shit desu.
I also recently bought a South Pacific fly fishing combo which i plan to try over the summer (never fly fished before)

I also have some other tackle/gear, but those two are what i mainly use.
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I have the same quantum xr-2 reel as i started with, im 24 and it was my dadsfor a couple years until he upgraded and passed this one down to me. Using it on a cheap ugly stick 7' medium light action from canadian tire. I also have my dads old fly rod and reel which i have no clue the make or price he paid for it

I fish small lakes and rivers so i dont need anything too fancy, the only thing that i will dish out the extra money and get top quality for is line, and the odd fancy lure, but i mostly use cheap spinners and self tied flies
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>>645323
If you havent spooled your line yet, switch to either power pro super slick or sufix 832, I find them to have much better castability
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>>645461
Mepps is the brand name. But they are in-line spinners. They are the best brand for them.

>>645458
Set an alarm for like 5:30am to try and get out at sunrise, but I like sleeping in on my precious weekends when I have to wake up at 4am all week. Just waiting for my lil bro to wake up so I can try the new combo out.

>>645572
I did the Super Slick on my baitcast (Abu Silver Max) and then ended up going to a slightly lighter regular Power Pro. The lighter line casts better because it is lighter, but I never noticed the Super Slick being much better. Maybe next time I spool a reel I will go with that.

I have Spider Wire Stealth Braid on a couple reels, and I'm starting to like that a little more than the Power Pro. But then everybody says Power Pro is better. So I don't know what to believe- my own experiences or everybody else's word.
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>>645361
I use a rainbow mepps #1 as my bread and butter, i live in ontario and ive caught pretty much every species of fish on the bastard. Damaging lure
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>>645461
I need to figure out a better way to organize my crankbaits. I might grab a smaller tackle bag in the future and split up my tackle. As you can see in the pic, those crank baits can be a pain in the ass to un tangle when I want to grab one.

I have one small box like in your pic that has 7 or 8 slots in it if I just want to throw a couple lures in there. But I normally just carry my whole bag.

I bought my little bro a backpack made by Browning that is made to carry 4 or 5 plastic tackle boxes. They sell them at Bass Pro for like $70. Neat idea but it would be too small for me. The regular bags with the shoulder strap are easy enough to carry.

>>645610
>tfw Gander Mtn has all Mepps on clearance for $2-$3
I bought 8 of them.
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Good ol' Mepps Agila does it again...

For any of you Northern folk, if you ever get down to South Florida, you need to go fishing for Peacock Bass. A 14" peacock fights like an 18" largemouth.
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>>645695
>and another peacock

I can't believe fishing threads are so slow. I thought it was a fairly common hobby among normal people. Does anybody from 4chan actually go outside? Or is /out/ just about showing off your most recent knife purchases?

It's probably like when I went on /mu/ and expected other musicians who actually play instruments and make music. Instead it was just a bunch of critics and shitty meme bands.
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>>645888
It's winter in much of the U.S. And not fishing season.
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>>645893
>living somewhere cold
Sounds awful

Also- with that rod and reel from the OP, I wish I would've gotten a 6'0" rod instead of the 6'6" one. But it's so fucking hard to find a 6' rod with fast action for a spinning reel. I debated trying to return the rod after using it for a day but whatever. Maybe I will buy another medium-weight reel (almost grabbed another Okuma for $40 from Dick's) and put that on the 6'6" rod and search for a nice 6' online for that President.
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want to see more?
surf casting / NE freshwater / Fly Fishing gear
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>>645645
>I need to figure out a better way to organize my crankbaits.

Most of my baits are distributed into multiple boxes, doing my best to organize by the depth they run, their size, and the lure type (float, suspend, sink, popper, crankbait, lipless crank, etc). At the moment everything fits into one really large Plano 4674. I came across this article ( http://www.indepthangler.com.au/review/review-plano-4674-ultimage-gear-bag/ ) and basically copied what they'd done. All those slim 3600's makes for a lot of options when organizing.

The bag itself is a little cumbersome and I mostly use it as a "boat bag." It has a shoulder strap and hand-holds on the side pockets but if you load it the way I have it puts on weight very fast. If I'm not using a boat I usually pull lures from the bag that I think will work best and put them into smaller tackle boxes that fit well in the pockets of waders, vests, cargo/ACU/BDU style pants.

I'll try to remember to snap some pictures of my setup after work tomorrow.
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>>645971
forgot the picture
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>>645972
Damn, that one is huge. Mine fits 5 of those bigger boxes (14"x9"). I think 3600 is the medium size, right? I was debating getting a smaller bag with 2 or 3 of those medium (3600s?) in it to use for when I'm walking around lakes a lot. That way I can at least split some stuff up and don't have it so crowded. It's just a pain when I want one crank bait and it is tangled with 6 other ones.

They make those spinnerbair organizers, but there isn't really anything for crank baits like that. If I got a bunch of flat boxes with one slot for each Rapala, it would take up at least 3 or 4 boxes. Spinners would be like 5-6 boxes if I only had one in each slot.

I have 5 of those 14" x 9" boxes in my bag, plus one more with bigger terminal tackle if I do saltwater. The 5 are organized by:
>Terminal tackle
>Spinners
>Crank Baits
>Rubber shit and jigheads
>Power Bait and more rubber
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>>645971
I like that article tho. I need to look for those slim boxes.
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>>645951

Post your surf gear. Rod and lures.

I live on long island, will post my setup tomorrow when I get a chance
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My new baby
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>>646381
Nice outfit!
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>>646064
Do those spoons actually work well for anything? I never really used them even tho I have a handful from back in the day.

Also those beetle spins are so great for bass and panfish. Throw a little PowerBait grub on a jighead with a beetle spin and instant success.
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>>646449
Spoons are my go to for trolling. They work well for togue and most other predatory fish. You can also jig with them.

Also really good for pickerel.
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>>646449
Williams spoons (specifically gold/silver scaled) are what i catch most of my pike on. Ive never caught a walter on them but ive heard they'll bite em
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My surf bag with bucktails tucked inside
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SOME of my bucktail collection lol.

Spros, blue frogs, trokar, and a bunch of cheap walmart bucktails
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My fluke box.

The red and blues got switched in this photo, so the color is weird.
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The rods. Too many to name, I can go over any if anyone is interested.
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Reels
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Surf rod/reel and my fluke/bottom setup

Ive got my freshwater stuff too.

Lots of topwater frogs, mepps/blue fox spinners and worms.
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Anybody have experience with Wild River tackle bags?
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>>645985
>>645989
I bojangled and didn't get around to taking pictures today. If your pack fits five of the larger (3700) packs it may work the same way with the slim 3600s (mediums). My pack came with six 3700s, five inside and one on the lid (due to a design change - pic related). The Hydro Flo design is nice but they've gotten to nearly double the price of what I paid ($55ish USD) at the time. If I ever needed a replacement I probably wouldn't buy another at the current price. They do make the same bag (in all three sizes) without the draining base which currently sells for close to what I paid for the Hydro Flo back then.

>>646064
>Rebel Wee Crawl & Pop-R
>Heddon Zara Spook (Super Spook Jr I think)
>Johnson Beetle Spins
>Eppinger Dardevle spoons (maybe clones)
>Culprit worms in "Black Shad"
>Bomber Square A (got that same one)

Many of the same things I love to use. I'm partial to "Red Shad" or "Moccasin" for Culprit worms but they also make a "Kudzu Shad" worm that's pretty gnarly looking. I haven't tried them out yet but I picked up a pack of 7.5's and am hoping they'll deliver.
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>>646683
Forgot the picture again.
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>>646559
What do you use as a surf bag? I need a new one.
>>646563
Nice! My collection looks like that around the start of spring, then it dwindles, Maine coastline is rocky as hell so I beat Bucktails up.
>>646571
Nice rigs, I love those old Penn reels, they are absolute tanks.
>>646573
How do you like the battle series? I always fished shimano, but recently got a great deal on a SSV 6500 BLS. Excited to use it. I have never used a newer Penn reel and don't talk to many people who use them. I only see them in Skinner videos.
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>>646683
I see what you mean. It fits 5 3700s the long way, but I might be able to do a bunch of slim 3600s going across the other way. I need to look into it. I'm thinking about getting a new bag one of these days. Mine has to be like 10 years old. Still in good condition tho.

I was looking at some of the newer ones, and the bags that fit the same 5 boxes all seem to have a ton of padding and are way more bulky with a bunch of compartments I don't need.

>>646620
I bought pic related for my little bro a few weeks ago. Bass Pro has them for $70, but it was on sale for $50 plus I had to buy a few more 3600 boxes. It fits 4 or 5 in the bottom. He seems to like it so far, but the one in your pic looks much nicer.
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>>646719

I haven't had a chance to use the battle yet actually. I think im gonna get a spinfisher because they are semi-sealed and use the battle as a backup/loaner/boat reel.
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does anyone know are poppers any good for northern pike?
I've seen Americans use them for bass in videos
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>>647419
I'd be interested to hear this as well.

I never have luck with poppers or topwater stuff. Closest I got was a couple weeks ago when I was at one of my little ponds at sunrise. I was actually getting fish jumping at the poppers but not biting hard enough to hook them. Also I think I was trying to set the hook when I saw the strike instead of feeling it. Same goes for topwater frogs and buzz baits. Never any good bites.

Also if I'm fishing after it gets dark and just going for largemouth and peacocks, is there any lure or color that would be best? I just try to use whatever rattles and spins.
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>>647419
In shallows they are great.

Pike feed in such a manner that they are facing banks and shallows, striking on nearly anything that wanders to deeper water from a bank. If you can retrieve to mimick this in shallow water it works really well. Froggy colors and small mouse poppers work well.
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>Have crappy 3 tray Jarvis Walker tackle box for years absolutely full of crap
>Plastic around buckle part starts to warp so it barely locks shut any more
>find smaller 2 tray Plano box and put all the freshwater gear in there
>there's actually a bit more room left over than the bigger 3 tray tackle box

Funny how that works.
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>>645972
Was just about to ask about getting a large tackle box that had a shoulder strap, might look into getting a 4674 now. Have a smaller guide series bag but it's full of Saltwater gear.
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>>647881
Those bags look nice. It's like an upgraded model of my old Plano bag. I need to see one IRL tho. Does that one have a thicker rubber base on mine? That is the one thing I'm suprised about with this bag. The bottom seems like thin rubber/plastic and I have no idea how it hasn't gotten ripped up from sitting on rocks or asphalt.

I mentioned it earlier tho, I don't really like how some of these newer bags that hold 4-5 3700 boxes seem way larger than mine because of padding and pockets that stick out real far. This bag holds a suprising amount of shit for its physical size. I have bug spray, a flashlight, first aid kit, pliers, and some small Gulp jars in that front pocket. A couple spools of line in one side pockets with lots of extra room, and the other side pocket has other random stuff like rigs and a tiny tackle box.
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>>647881
Also a question about that 4764, it says it comes with 5x3700 boxes and 2x3600 boxes. Do the 3600 boxes go in the lid?

I also like how it has that little plastic pouch. This pic shows Power Bait in it. I had to take a Dremel to a 3700 box and cut out the dividers so Power Bait bags would fit better in there.

The little elastic straps on the lid are nice too. I actually have a 6th 3700 box with larger terminal tackle and leaders and stuff, and I will lay it on top of the bag while I carry the bag with the shoulder strap or two handles. Not quite as secure.

Looking at more pics tho, I really don't like that huge plastic base. It looks like the bag ends up being 3" taller than it needs to be. When walking around a lake with 3 rods and a packed tackle bag, the less extra BS there is to the bag, the better.
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>>648446
Pic related is the end result of a couple 3700s and a Dremel. I would never want to put bags of Gulp in a pocket in the bag. I let my little brother borrow that box with the saltwater Gulp and he didn't seal the bags. A bunch of that juice got all over the inside of the box. Smelled awful and was so hard to clean off because it is def some type of oil.

Great way to customize the boxes for larger stuff. I'm thinking about working on my spinner box so I can lay them flat instead of having to bend them.
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>>648446
Fucking monstrosity is huge.
>>648450
Nice, really clean.
>>647876
CLASSIC.
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>>645893
>>645899

I was just thinking of starting an icefishing thread. I'll do that tomorrow I think.
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>>646482
Spoons are excellent for pike and walleye. I've also caught many trout on small spoons, but I prefer fly fishing for trout so I don't use them much these days.

My favorite pattern is a 5 of diamonds and the Red Devil pattern is close behind. It's a legendary lure. If I could only have one lure in my freshwater tackle box, a medium sized 5 of Diamonds would be it.

>>646064
In this pic, the 5 of D is the one in yellow with the red diamonds near top right and the red devils are just to the left, red with the white stripe.

I've also used spoons on downriggers for good effect for lake trout and on the coast (Kitimat/Prince Rupert) for salmon. For salmon I prefer anchovie rigs or hoochies, but spoons work ok.
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>>648467
Is that a brookie or bull? Pic is a bit blurry so I can't make out if there's spots on the dorsal fin or not.
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>>648467
>nice, really clean
Ehh, it's packed so it is hard. There's bags of Power Bait buried under other bags in each slot. I have to make sure there is no air in the bags if I want to close it.

I posted a pic of just the Mepps here >>645361 and that is only a portion of the spinners crammed into that box. And the crank bait box is the one I would really love to figure out. They all get stuck on eachother and it can be a pain to untangle them. But I don't know of a good way to keep them from getting tangled besides spreading them out into 3 or 4 3700 boxes and that isn't an option.
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>>648489
I'd look into these; they're called hook bonnets. They aren't too expensive.
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>>648497
Damn I was wondering if they made anything like that. Do they sell them at Bass Pro or Dick's or anything like that? Or just look online? I will def keep an eye out next time I go to Bass Pro (although I need to stay away from that place)

After 20min of untangling lures, here is what is crammed into my crank bait box. Plus I have lots of rubber fish in another box.
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>>648502
Don't use a box, rubber band the hooks together tight and throw them all in a peanut butter jar, there's a video on YouTube somewhere but I've been doing it since before said video
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>>648502
>>648505
http://www.scout.com/outdoors/wired2fish/story/1618325-how-to-store-crankbaits-snag-free

It actually works, and any rangles you do get are easy to undo
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Anybody know anything about pic related? It is one of the best crankbaits I have ever used. They are smaller, but will catch blugill, crappie, and bass way faster than a similar Rapala.

I bought them years ago at some fishing show. I remember buying some Berkley Frenzy crankbaits at the same time. I can't remember the last time I saw those Frenzy lures. But if anybody knows of the company or name of those little lures in the pic, I would love to know. Maybe somwhere still carries them online. I definitely buy more.

>>648505
>>648507
That's not a bad idea. I wouldn't use the jar tho. I like those hook bonnets that anon posted earlier. I'm def going to grab those if I can find them for a decent pricr.
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>>648517
Hook covers tend to get lost easily and they're more expensive then rubberbands, the jar just saves space
Plus both are free
I usually use the hook covers on my big spoons with trebbles

Also another alternative is to get some cork and cut small cubes to put on the hook ends
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>>648524
I thought about something like the cork, but idk how well that would work with them all in the tackle box. Maybe something like that for Mepps and spinners, but those aren't nearly as hard to untangle. I had some tiny rubber bands laying around and I'm in the process of wrapping em now.

The way in the video doesn't work with the fat crank baits, so I just put the rubber band around the back hook and wrapped it around the lip. It holds the middle hook down as well.

I think I will skip the peanut butter jar.
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>>648476
Brookie
The Maine bite is phenomenal right now.
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>>648434
The one I have has a decent base on it, started to rip the fabric just above the base due to fitting one more tray than it should though which sucks.
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>11 more days until I can go interstate with my boat for a few days and try and catch pic related

Seeing that /<></ is dead, you guys doing any fishing trips over the new year?
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>>648580
I finally got my little brother into fishing towards the end of last summer. We had a good couple weeks, then he went back to school. He is home on winter break right now though. I'm going to try and hit up the ponds and lakes with him before he goes up to Chicago for a week or two to see friends. Then after that he will be back at school and I will be solo again.

I gave him a bunch of tackle so he can go fishing on weekdays while I'm working, but he's still fairly new so he doesn't have the greatest luck without my help. Too bad he isn't going to be around longer before going back out of town. The bass are biting good lately since the water cooled off a little bit.
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>>648589
Taught him any lure fishing? My Nephew hated fishing until I showed him the joys of catching a fish on a lure and now he can't get enough, truth be told I was getting bored of bait fishing until I caught my first fish on a lure myself.
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>>645893
Catfishing in winter is the bomb if you know how to do it.

>>645323
I'm old school. Love my black (I have 2) and red Ambassadeur reels that are like 30 or 40 years old. Cast reasonably well, will land a whale on 20lb test. I spool them with 40lb spiderwire for catfishing. I use 20lb mono leaders. I drop the leaders for bass fishing with lures. My spinning stuff is all cheap shit because I don't need better and I'm not made of money.
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>>648591
That's pretty much all I do. So the first time we went out I grabbed some nightcrawlers but we mostly used lures. If I do nightcrawlers, I throw one out with a bobber and cast with lures, but I don't have shit for luck with live worns around here for some reason. Anyway he got a nice ~15" largemouth the first time I ever took him. I think he was just using a beetle spin and a white PowerBait grub.

I got him a handful of lures for Christmas (in addition to the tackle backpack I bought him as an early present) and I would probably grab him a nice rod, but I want to see if he ends up fishing more freshwater or saltwater. I live 5min from the Atlantic and a big fishing pier, but normally fish freshwater because I lived in Illinois for 23 years before moving here and know freshwater and bass fishing better. But when he is at school, he does a little saltwater with his friends there but I don't think he has had any luck the few times he went.

If he keeps up with it, maybe I will get him a nice rod and reel for his birthday. I already gave him 3 of mine that I didn't use much and put fresh Power Pro on all of them. A heavy spinning rod, some $50 combo from Bass Pro and that has 40lb braid, then a medium Mitchell combo with 20lb, and a lighter Shakespeare with 10lb. He can learn with those and fuck them up for a couple months. At least the braid saves him the frustration of losing a ton of lures.
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>>648603
Heh same here really, always throw a line out with worms and cast a lure as well. Your nephews got 3 rods, he doesn't really need any more.
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>>648595
Are those Abu reels more low-profile baitcasters or the big round ones?

I like Abu Garcia stuff. I almost bought the Revo S instead of that President in the OP. But they didn't really have the size I was looking for. Next combo I buy, I think I'm going to keep an eye out for a good deal on a Revo.

I like their Cardinal spinning reels, even being cheaper. That graphite and gold Cardinal (SX?) reel I have is really nice for an $80 combo. And I have a Silver Max baitcaster too. But I can't really judge that since it was my first baitcaster and I don't use it a ton. No problems after a year or two of limited use. I need to practice with it more though. I don't feel like I have the same control as a spinning reel. Plus it isn't really worth using when I'm catching 2-3lb bass.

That Abu Vendetta rod I bought doesn't seem too bad so far. I just wish it was 6' instead of 6'6". It's hard to find 6' spinning rods with fast action tho and I wanted to try something a little nicer than an Ugly Stik.
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>>648608
The old big, round ones.
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>>648607
Not nephew, little brother. But yeah, 3 should be good for now. If he does get into freshwater and bass fishing more, I will probably help him out with a nicer light combo. That Shakespeare ultralite is probably the worst of the 3 combos. The reel isn't bad, but the rod is cheap. The Mitchell (medium) is a few years old, but is a decent combo. And that $50 Zebco catfish/saltwater rod is almost brand new.

I was at Dick's on Black Friday, and they had these Skeet Reese combos on sale for $50 off of $100. I was in the checkout line with one for him, then looked at some reviews online that said the rod is amazing but the reel is shit. Then I looked at the reel some more and put it back. The rod was really nice, but the reel had a plastic body and was just garbage.

Then I ended up buying that white Okuma reel which was on sale ($30 instead of $70) on Black Friday, and I regret not grabbing the same one for him. For the $30 I paid, that reel is so nice. I have caught so many fish on it in the few weeks I have owned it. I think they still have some weird red price tag for $40-$50 and I debated grabbing another even though I don't need it at all.
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>>648613
What kind of line do you run? And what type of rod? Medium weight? Heavier?

I just never see anybody using those unless it is saltwater. Seems like it is either spinning or the low profile baitcasters.
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>>648622
40lb spiderwire, it's the same diameter as the lower end of the mono size recommended for those reels. I use Berkley Cherrywood 6' Medium-Heavy action rods.

And I remembered wrong, it's two red and one black. They're popular with the catfishing crowd because they are good for cranking in the occasional lunker. Catfish don't really fight like bass or pike or whatever, but they weigh a hell of a lot more. Best I've done on a rod and reel was a blue about 25 lbs. on live perch near the bottom in the dead of winter in the middle of the night. The lakes I fish have records of 45 to 80 lbs.
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>>648678
Oh, and FWIW, scale the perch you're using for bait on one side. They'll stink up the water better and draw more action, and they live longer than if you scale both sides.
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>>648678
40lbs for light tackle fishing? why doe.

you'd probably catch more fish running a lower rating like 10-15lbs or even 20lbs
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>>648718
I use the spiderwire because it's tough and doesn't get messed up on the rocky bottoms around here. I use 40 lb test because the diameter matches the manufacturer recommendations for both the rod and reel. I use 15 to 20 lb mono leaders on Carolina or 3-way rigs for catfish.

And cats aren't line shy, I think you could catch even 2-3 lb fish on 50 lb mono. They just don't care.

>pic related is my work
>only spent a few minutes in publisher, don't feel bad if you feel it necessary to say mean things about it
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>>648738
>don't feel bad if you feel it necessary to say mean things about it
And I just found and corrected a typo.
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>>648738
ahhh catfish.

makes total sense. didn't even think of that.
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>>648755
25 lbs of blue cat bent a medium-heavy rod way the hell over when I started pulling back. On the rare occasion that I chase bass I do it using spinning tackle or my Pflueger low-profile baitcaster. I have a Zebco 11 triggerspin on a 5' telescoping rod that goes in my backpack. Spincast reels don't make tangles with my gear, and it's plenty for panfish or using clear floats with flies for trout.
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>>648446
I've actually not seen the design from the article for sale anywhere. The write-up got my attention but when I searched for them it seems that they redesigned (pic related) at some point. It's as heavy as it is convenient. If I could recommend anything it would be to try to find one in store to make sure you want it. Try to picture it with all the added weight if you plan on loading twelve slim 3600s in it.

>Does that one have a thicker rubber base on mine?
If you can find one, about a quarter of the Hydro Flo model's height is the draining base. They've gotten scarce. The regular "Guide Series" bags just feature a sort of thick, moulded, waterproof bottom but don't stand quite as high as a result.

>I don't really like how some of these newer bags ... seem way larger than mine because of padding and pockets that stick out real far.
A valid concern. The side pockets have built in hand-holds and are shaped to hold things like sunglasses but they do stick out a bit compared the the rest of the pack as a result.

>it says it comes with 5x3700 boxes and 2x3600 boxes.
Mine included six 3750 style boxes (five inside and one on the lid). A result of the redesign I imagine.

> also like how it has that little plastic pouch
That was kept through the redesign and is pretty nice. I will say that in the rain or if the lid gets sufficiently soaked water will eventually make its way into that pouch. Use zip-locks if you're gonna stick non-waterproof maps or the sort in there.

>This pic shows Power Bait in it. I had to take a Dremel to a 3700 box and cut out the dividers so Power Bait bags would fit better in there.
The 3750's actually feature oversized compartments where the front two rows would be in a standard 3700. Something to consider; might save you some dremeling in the future. I too like to keep my soft plastics bagged up until use.
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Im looking for a fishing backpack but i dont want something as big as this >>646800
Any recommendations? Im inticed by the idea of a one strap sling bag since it would be less noticable while but all the ones ive found are tiny
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>>645323

I used to like fishing but lately it's come off as an overly expensive habit for white trash.
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>>648941
Quite the contrary in my area, where the only people who fish appear to be wealthy (with the exception of course asians)
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>>648941
>overly expensive
>white trash

I don't see the same thing at all in my area. When I'm at one of my regular spots, everybody pulls up in a new $70k truck with their bass boat behind it. There's the handful of nigs that will sit on their buckets by the canals, but it isn't the majority. And going down to the pier on the ocean, it is lots of normal dudes in their 20s and 30s.

>tfw you are passing Bass Pro Shops while working
I got done with my route fairly early and I almost pulled my semi truck into the parking lot to do some shopping. I restrained myself tho. I can't walk into Bass Pro without spending at least $100.
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>>648877
Just get a daypack you like and put smaller component boxes in it.
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So little bro just started fishing. I think this is the 2nd largemouth he has ever caught. He has no idea what a nice fish it was. Just got it about an hour ago.

>next to a Size 12
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>>648620
fucker
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Just fished an inlet here in NJ today, hoping for stripers but no luck today only skate and cunner. Still happy enough to be having some sport when it's almost January. Black Sea Bass rigs are so fucking versatile, I carry a bag full of them nowadays as they seem to catch just about anything that swims equally well.
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>>648580
Nice one m8. Gunna try for some dam barra over the next week with the full moon.
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>>651136
One of these days I have to make it up to Either NT or QLD and get a Barra myself, they're an awesome fighting fish. Good luck mate.
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Merry Christmas, /out/

I got a pretty basic set of fishing gear as a gift from my dad. I fished some as a kid but I really don't know a thing about doing it on my own. Can anybody recommend a good web site or forum for noobs?

Obviously it'd be best for my dad to teach me, but I live in Dallas and he lives in Illinois.
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>>653313
Lake Worth is worth fishing, IIRC. Look at fishing books aimed at kids who are tweens or teenagers. Those will have the basic info you need. Fish for panfish starting off. They're active, easy to catch, and tasty.
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>>653313
I'm a new guy as well I guess, live in Dallas too. Only fished when I was 11 once but I'll probably try White Rock Lake or something. Also I found this which has been a little helpful learning the basics.

http://fishingnoob.com/
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I saw a turtle here, I live in Louisiana, what kind of fish would live in here and how should I catch it?
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Got a sweeeet 8.7ft rod for jigging. Sakura rod. Google Shore11 bouz for info. It is amazing.
If you inquring about it being so long, here in Okinawa we need long rods to get over reefs and obstacles.

Inb4 I just paid half a grand for a shore jigging rod.

Japan masterrace angler reporting in.
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>>645356

The reel 2nd up from the bottom - what is that?
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>>646064
just picked up this bad boy.
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>>654456
You Nihongos? Why don't you guys ever use rear treble hooks on your lures? I got a box set of lures (Shimano/SunMar) and none had rear treble hooks.
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>>653313

Check out some youtube fishing channels. Find one that suits your species and techniques like largemouth bass, or salt water etc...

Nick the informative fisherman, fishing the widwest, fishing with flair and 1rod1reel are some of my favorite freshwater guys. Super informative and fun to watch.
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>>654894
For salt, inshore, and surf, you gotta watch John Skinner.
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>>654907

Ive seen every video on skinners channel, and read two of his books lol. I'm on long island so his word is the gospel. I'm hoping to meet him at striper day at hofstra on jan 9th
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>>654442
Looks polluted as fuck m8, don't go fishing there
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>>654442
https://youtu.be/CMdawl05lMs
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>>645323
president is a decent reel. I am partial to daiwa myself but they're pretty on par with eachother. Incidentally I wouldn't recommend pfleuger fly reels. Drag isn't so great IMO
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>>654557
If you are still around...

The baitcaster? Abu SilverMax 2. I never really messed with baitcasters until I grabbed that like a year ago.

I just grabbed pic related from that little Bass Pro clearance sale, so a nicer baitcast reel will be coming in the future. Not sure what kind of reel I'm gonna do.

I'm thinking Abu Revo S or something along those lines. People seem to rave about those Lew's reels too that Dick's has.

Btw, pic sucks but BPS Johnny Morris CarbonLite. 6'6" MH Casting. I was skeptical about BPS rods and reels, but the more I read, everybody says they are made in the same factories as other brands and they have become a big enough operation that they are real competitors.
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>>654557
Actually looking at the reel further, it could be that little Quantum spinning reel. I've had that for years and years and it has been nice. It had to be a cheaper reel, like $40
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>>655107
Welp, I jumped on a reel for that CarbonLite rod.

What do you guys think? Got the reel for $115, free shipping. Abu stuff (along with most other big brands) never seems to go on sale much, so $115 on eBay sounds nice compared to $160 at any of the regular retailers.

It better be nicer than that SilverMax on the Ugly Stik
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>>647709
Black topwaters work best for me at night. I use longer armed buzzbaits by Boyah, I also use braided line, it floats and has no stretch. I do my best to feel the fish before I set the hook. Caught catfish, muskie and Large bass this way
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>>646381
what does something like this cost ?
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>>645951
Where NE are you? Cape Cod here
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What is your opinion on spincast reels? Is there any reason to own one as long as spinning reels exist?
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>>655523
I thought that was just something for kids. They don't cast for shit, and I swear the birdsnests are worse than casting reels.
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>>655528
I have a Zebco 808 that I use for jigging, It's fun.
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>>655535
That's crazy. Does it actually cast at all?

I haven't touched a spincast since I was like 7. I can't wait for that fresh Revo SX to get here so I can work on my baitcasting more.
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>>655523
I've never been able to toss a spincast without it birdnesting. I've got a shed full of them that I got when my Dad died. Never touched 'em.
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>>654579

You must be me lol. Just got mine today.

What rod you have it on/line used? What species you intend on catching?
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>>655702
have it on a triumph surf 9' occasionally use it on my Okuma Cedros 12' it's BLS btw.
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>>655594
so much this, those things are worthless. I haven't touched one in years. Are you me?
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>>655107
>I'm thinking Abu Revo S
I was impressed enough to purchase a second one.. They trump my finicky Black Max by far, and noticeably outperform my Pro Max.

I bought the first one along with an 7' M/F Veritas 2.0 with the intention of producing a topwater baitcasting setup for lures that were a bit too big for my light-spinning gear. Not thinking I lined it with fluorocarbon and promptly found out sinking line and surface lures don't exactly work together. It did however make for an awesome jerkbait combo, and I found out enough to about the rod's action to know I'd like another for poppers and spooks. So I duplicated the setup and lined up with some mono that time around. Like a charm.

The centrifugal brake is something to consider. I find it works beautifully but it isn't as quick to adjust as the magnetic brakes are on the Max reels. It's not a long process (open the side-cover, adjust switches as necessary, close the cover) but if you're fishing tournaments or the sort you'll probably only be using it for one or two techniques to avoid spending time adjusting every time you switch lure types. If you're fishing casually or don't mind the extra steps in adjusting the brake I think you'll be very pleased with one.
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>>655219
Whoops, overlooked this post. The SX has a magnetic drag and adjusts like the Max series making that last bit above a non-issue. I can't overstate how impressed I've been with the Revo line. Enough so I ended up talking myself into getting the Winch and pairing it with a big 7'11" cranking rod for deep divers. A big purchase for me considering I used to mostly fish freshwater with strictly light-to-medium spinning gear so coughing up more than $75 for a reel always seemed crazy to me (still does but with the baitcasters it's like I can feel more of the improvement that I'm getting).
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>>655758
That image reminded me I do have a pic of the huge bag. No images of what is in it at the moment. I ended up putting in a standard 3600 and removed two of the slims because a couple of my deep diving crankbaits were too fat for them. I've got a deep 3600 box I might actually put into before my next trip. It's the perfect depth for jarred baits like Uncle Josh pork trailers which should work really well in the cold winter water. That time of year for slower techniques like jigging.
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>>655536
Zebco stuff will cast forever.

>>655523
There are three good reasons for spincast reels.
>kids
>noobs
>they don't get tangled up on anything in your backpack, so I keep a little Zebco reel on a collapsible rod in my backpack when I'm /out/ around water

>>655594
Are you sure you didn't mean baitcast?
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>>655721

Ah im not too experienced in the surf, so I didnt wanna mess with bail-less.

I have mine on a 10' penn battalion with 40# pp.

What line do you use and for what species?
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>>655815
my stradic is #50lbs Power Pro, my baitrunner OC is #50lbs PowerPro, Thinking of spooling the SSVBLS with #40lbs Flouro. I target Striped Bass, and a few other species in the Maine Surf. I also canoe around my local bay, and have a kayak for further out fishing.
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>>655785
>Are you sure you didn't mean baitcast?
nope, don't have any baitcasters. Was thinking of getting one for something different. I was raised on spinning reels and it's all I've ever known.
I must really suck if I couldn't get the hang of the simplest reel out there.
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>>655758
Aren't you NOT supposed to use a swivel or anything else with poppers/crankbaits? I was always taught to make sure that it is straight on the line and not through anything as pictured.
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>>655702
He got a Bail-less one though
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>>656003
I use them because I am impatient with lures. But I have a couple rods tied straight with the go-to Rapala and Mepps and no swivel.
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>>655758
>>655748
>tfw no shipping confirmation on Revo SX yet...

The arrival date seemed kinda late. The place might be dragging ass because of the holidays. Estimated delivery was like late next week.

But I have a couple questions: What line are you running on your Revo? That Silver Max was my first baitcaster, and I put PowerPro SuperSlick #40 on it and it was too much. I think I have #30 on there now. But I'm thinking of doing #20 when I get the Revo in so I can have that casting distance and use it with Mepps #2. Plus I'm sure 20lb line will be plenty for some bass fishing, even if I have to yank through some weeds.

Also, how do you like that Veritas? Those rods look nice. That Vendetta in the OP post was the first Abu rod I ever bought and I like it so far. That RevoSX is gonna go on the Johnny Morris CarbonLite 6'6". That will be the nicest rod I own, along with the nicest reel.

I keep wanting to get a St. Croix, but it's hard to find one I like for a reasonable price. And I'm skeptical of ordering a rod online. I like to be able to check it out first and I'm not trying to have a 2pc rod arrive in the mail when I ordered a 1pc.
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>>656003
I've heard this a couple times over the years. Forgot the reasoning but I've never found it to be an issue with crankbaits nor the bulk of my topwater lures spare a couple oddball lures that don't like the extra range of motion. Some topwater lures and many crankbaits (most all lipless/"Rat-L-Trap" types I believe) actually benefit from being indirectly tied and come with split rings attached to tie onto. Another alternative is a loop knot ("Lefty's Loop" or the sort).

I like a loose connection for my spooks and poppers because it makes it much easier to "walk the dog". It also produces some great erratic action when working a jerkbait with a sporadic retrieve.

>I use them because I am impatient with lures.
This too. Just gotta remember retying is a good thing from time to time. Snaps are definitely convenient so long as you don't let them produce bad habits, something I was guilty of when I started using them. Line can fray and knots weaken. Forgetting to retie can lead to lost lures and lost fish.
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>>656104
>What line are you running on your Revo?
I've gotten to really appreciate the low-visibility and sinking properties of fluorocarbon. My first baitcaster was a Black Max / Vengeance combo and I lined it with 14 lb Berkley Vanish for artificial worms and jigs. I use 12 lb Vanish on the one Revo S for jerkbaits & crankbaits and 12 lb Trilene XT mono on the other for topwater. The Revo Winch uses 17 lb Vanish and is paired with a 7'11" Extra Heavy Abu Veracity Winch rod for my heaviest, deepest diving crankbaits.

>I put PowerPro SuperSlick #40 on it
I still need to try braid. I've always avoided it for some reason but I'd actually like to try it out with some topwater frogs or punch rigs when the aquatic grasses get heavy again next year.

>how do you like that Veritas?
Love'em. "Everything is relative" but relative to my wants (dedicated jerkbait and popper/spook rods) they've exceeded every expectation.

>That will be the nicest rod I own, along with the nicest reel.
The Revo Winch & Veracity Winch were a pre-fishing trip splurge and far beyond what I'd typically spend. Before that the Revo S/Veritas setups were the most expensive pairings I owned at about $200 USD per pair. Putting the first one together had me nervous because I wasn't able to get hands-on with the reel before buying. When it arrived I immediately kicked myself for not ordering two. The consistency of performance between the first and second definitely helped sway me to get the Winch.

I'm positive you'll enjoy the Revo SX, and BPS' CarbonLite rods are nothing to scoff at either. I've actually heard some great things about Bass Pro's CarbonLite reels as well but I haven't picked one up to see for myself yet (I'm pretty fond of Abu Garcia if it isn't obvious).

>I'm not trying to have a 2pc rod arrive in the mail when I ordered a 1pc.
Or when you actually get the one-piece you ordered but it still arrived in two. I've some gripes with a certain courier service.
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>>648580
seriously, what is that thing?
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>>656135
Murray Cod, biggest freshwater fish in Aus.
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>>656126
>Or when you actually get the one-piece you ordered but it still arrived in two
That was my whole point...

Interesting tidbit- when I was at Bass Pro a few weeks back, I was talking to the dude who worked there for like an hour, and he said that Abu Garcia actually manufactures the BPS baitcasters. I'll take his word. Everything I read online says Bass Pro, Gander Mountain, etc is all actually manufactured in the same Asian factories as other companies. Common practice with all sorts of consumer products. And BPS sells enough rods and reels that their products are actually gaining a respectable reputation.

That CarbonLite rod has the real small guides, I'm interested in what it feels like. And the reviews for the Revo SX look great, I'm hoping it lives up. I imagine people who buy $150+ reels consistently know what they are talking about.

Oh, and the whole Flouro/Braid thing- you really need to rig up a reel with braid. I haven't touched mono in years. I have a couple spools of Vanish for leaders. I spooled an ultralight with #4 Vanish a couple years ago and I wasn't a big fan. Especially fishing from shore in shallow ponds. Plus after switching everything to braid, I can't fucking stand memory in the line. It is basically non-existent with braid. Braid seems to tie great knots too. Not so much with Flouro. I haven't found a single drawback to braid yet.

Also braid doesn't degrade with UV exposure like mono. Guy who owns my local tackle shop says he runs his Power Pro for 4 seasons. Runs it for two years, spools it the opposite direction for the last two years.
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What kind of knots do you guys normally use?

I used to do Trilene knots when I was younger, but then discovered the joy of the Palomar knot. It is super easy to tie and doesn't loosen up at all like lots of the bigger, complicated ones. Plus lots of tests said it holds close to all of it's strength.

And I do the double-uni knots for leaders, keeps the knots fairly low-profile so even with a 3'-4' leader, it doesn't catch on the guides and shorten casts.
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>>656145
>That was my whole point...
Ah, I read it more as a product mix-up than damage through delivery. I've dealt with both when ordering online.

>he said that Abu Garcia actually manufactures the BPS baitcasters
>all actually manufactured in the same Asian factories as other companies
I wouldn't be too surprised. I think only a handful of Abu's Ambassadeur models still come from the factory in Svangsta. So long as the quality of the product is consistent I'm happy.

>That CarbonLite rod has the real small guides
Micro Guides. Same for the Vertias rods I chose. Micro guide models tend to squeeze a few more guides along the length of the rod compared to their standard guide counterparts. I'd imagine this helps to more evenly distribute load along the rod. For some reason I want to say my micro guide models cast farther in comparison but I'm certainly overlooking a number of variables that could explain why the guides weren't the determining factor. I'll have to properly experiment with a casting plug some time.

>you really need to rig up a reel with braid.
>I haven't touched mono in years.
I don't know that I could ever completely break myself of mono. Every setup I put together tends to have a set purpose and mono plays a part in a few of them. When I finally tried fluoro on a few reels it was a pretty big game changer for me but it couldn't completely replace mono. But I do hate to miss opportunity and there are techniques where mono and fluoro are both inadequate. For those the missing element is definitely braid. A dedicated hollow-body frog rod is the first thing that comes to mind, mainly for largemouth and snakehead when the aquatic plants start taking over.
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>>656170
What's you're normal approach for snakehead? And can I ask where you live?

I'm in South FL as of the past couple years, and I have gotten a few snakehead. Always on Mepps (Mepps shill here) and I seem to get them in the summer when it is warm. Whenever I'm fishing at my ponds with lots of weeds, I normally just try to retrieve it really fast over the weeds, but I'm probably missing some snakehead bites.

The one lake had a snakehead that has to be 30" and it likes to sit in real shallow water but get spooked as soon as I get within 20' of it. I want to catch it so I can leave it in the parking lot to bake.

I've been meaning to buy a machete to keep in my car in case I get a snakehead. Little pocket knives will only do so much with the thick skulls.
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>>656172
My best luck for snakehead has been on small jig spinners (Johnson Beetle Spins w/ Mr Crappie soft plastics.) A few have been caught on full-size spinnerbaits but nothing has been as productive as the little spinners. I've had plenty missed hits on topwater frogs but that's probably for the best since I was using mono at the time targeting largemouth and their teeth would've cut the line. To be honest a lot of the missed hits were most likely body-slaps in defence of their offspring. Lure placement was always prime. Right in and through the nice pockets in large patches of hydrilla and I could see the fry scatter whenever I popped the frog. I just think maybe they're not too stupid and catching on to what people are using. Hollow-body frogs are the number one hook-and-line approach to snakehead for folks around here. That being southern Maryland.

>I've been meaning to buy a machete to keep in my car in case I get a snakehead.
The "Northern Snakehead" we catch here in the Potomac are great eating and fun as hell to catch. The easiest way to dispatch of them is with a sharp knife or kitchen shears. Conk'em on the head to knock them out and then cut the gills and dunk'em head-down in a bucket to bleed them.
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>>656182
I was gonna say that is definitely a different species than I am catching down here. That pattern is cool, I see why they call them "Snakehead" after that.

The ones here look like a channel cat with maybe half a dozen spots (black with white outline) right down the side of them and that big spot (eggspot?) on the tail.

If you ever get to South Florida and do some freshwater, you gotta go for some peacock bass. So much fun. South America I guess too.
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>>655953
I like spinning reels, too. I use them for almost anything that involves lots of cast and crank fishing. I've never figured out how you can tangle up a spincast reel, though. Even my kids do it pretty rarely. YMMY, though.

>>656003
If you have a lure that spins and twists the line, you better have a swivel. Most don't, though. I like small snaps with most of my lures, the exception being soft plastics.
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>>656153
I use the improved clench knot almost exclusively when fishing. That comes from having learned to tie it 40 years ago and being really good at tying it in the dark, though. Your particular knot isn't as important as how well you tie it, honestly.
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Does expensive top-of-the-line shit generally result in more bites somehow or increase comfort and lifespan? I've always used $30 fishing rods with no problem.
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>>656451
nah price usually results in quality, ie. longer laster gear that is built for a specific reason.
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>>656451
see
>>656455

I've got lots of cheap stuff and I use it just fine. For chasing catfish, I use some Ambassadour reels that are older than most of the people who come to /out/. More expensive stuff tends to last longer and be better quality, but for the average fisherman there isn't enough difference in performance to justify the difference in cost.
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>>656461
agreed.

I do however invest in salt water gear. My reels cost me a bunch of money and I roll with some expensive rods. For salt-water, if your deep in surf it's worth investing into.

this is my gear.
>>646059
>>646060
>>646061
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>>646065
>>654579
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>tfw all lakes in my area are privately owned
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>>656464
My salt water gear is cheap as hell, not nice like yours. Then again, I only spend a week on salt water each year. If I fished it regularly it would likely be a different story.
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>>656468
yeah I fish salt daily, so it's worth it. otherwise any old gear will catch fish. mostly it takes patience and know how, not funds and expensive gear
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>>656451
I still don't quite understand expensive rods. You definitely notice a difference in the reels, but I have been using Ugly Stiks on most of my stuff until recently. And I'm not gonna lie, that Berkley Lightning Rod I got from Walmart for $40, I really like it. Even next to that $80 Vendetta I got right after it.

>Ye, it has arrived
I wasn't sure when I would get the RevoSX with the holidays and everything. I ordered the thing on Monday night, but never got any shipping info from them besides a payment confirmation.

When I picked up the box, I thought there was a mistake because of how light it was. This reel weighs nothing, it's incredible. Debating whether to cast it around tonight or get up early tomorrow.

+1 for Sportsman's Outfitters on eBay.
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>>656511
Decisions...

I'm thinkin 20lb. Although I'm tempted to put 15lb on it for fun. I believe I have 30lb on my other baitcaster.
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>>656515
One moar question for all you pros around here:

With spinning reels, I have read to leave ~1/8" of room left on the spool. I normally leave a tiny bit more so I don't end up with a huge mess. What's the rule of thumb with baitcasters?

Box said this reel will hold 140yds of 30lb braid. I had a 125yd spool of 20lb and put the whole thing on. Pretty full, but not overboard. Am I asking for problems like with a spinning reel or can you top off the baitcasters? Should I take ~10yds off?
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>>656524
I like to leave a bit of room on mine, that eighth inch or so you were talking about, but you can fill a baitcaster pretty full with no problems. It lets your spool spin slower when casting.
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>>656524

You'll find out when you use it lol. You can always chop off some braid if you need to. That being said you should be fine. You'll periodically lose a few yards by cutting off the end of the line due to abrasion etc..
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>>656515

Braid porn lol
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>>656538
Couldn't wait to try it out so I went to a little pond down the street.

Now I'm not the greatest with baitcasters. I have owned that SilverMax for about a year and only had limited practice with it. And there is a huge difference between a $60 baitcaster and $160 baitcaster.

I switched back to the spinning reel. I can't see for shit so I'm getting little nests every cast. I think I need to wait for some daylight to practice more.

That Revo SX is smooth and quiet as hell tho. No complaints. And with that CarbonLite rod, it seriously must weigh like 1/3 of my Silver Max and Ugly Stik.
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I would like to add:
>Best $30 I ever spent
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>>656511
there is no reason for you to put anything over 20lbs.

period.

there is a difference in rods for fly fishing, and surf casting based on price. a St. Croix is going to cast a lot better then an ugly stick, a Sage will load different then a Martin.


>>656524
I have a spinning reel that I catch sharks with. It's spolled with 3 different types of line. a backing, just white cotton string of about 10 feet, 200 yards of 50lbs power pro, 100 yards of 60lbs trilene big game.

If you use the right knot you can easily mend line in your spool without causing issues.

p.s. spinning is the way to go.


Also line rating does make a huge difference in how you fish, keep that mind. thicker line doesn't sink as easy as thinner, lighter line.
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>>656544

Are you knowledgeable in how to properly set up/dial your baitcaster? Spool tension knob and brakes are very important when learning to cast.

A couple youtube videos on how to setup a baitcaster will set you up for success. Also maje sure it was spooled correctly.

Learning a baitcaster is definitely a challenge at first, but practice will make perfect. I never thought I would be able to use them, but time has taught me differently haha.
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>>656595
Somewhat. It isn't my first baitcaster, but I haven't used the other one a ton in the year I have owned it.

I was playing with the brakes and everything a little bit tonight, but I think I should wait until it is light out so I can see whete I'm casting. My casts aren't as accurate as with a spinning reel, so I was catching the spool like a millisecond too late and getting small nests. Nothing too bad. During the day, I wouldn't have that problem.
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Does anyone know how much a commercial halibut license costs for a resident in alaska? I can't find any info online.
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>>656654
look into federal licensing, or NOAA, Alaska IFW should have info on their website for it though.
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https://www.cfec.state.ak.us/forms/Permit_Fee_Table.pdf

75 dollars? that just seems a bit too low. Maybe its a lottery system? they do that for bison and such.
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Does anybody here live in Central Florida, I'm looking for some good areas with Reds and Sea Trout. I'm using a Penn Fierce II combo with a 4000 reel, any recommendations on rigs and lures?
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>>656766
I'm interested in this too I guess.

South Florida here. Anybody just have a good guide for saltwater fishing from the pier? Or at the inlets? I don't know where to start. I need to find somebody to teach me.
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Funny how I always seem to really research products after I buy them...

I have a question about the drag systems on these reels. Seems like for reels under $200 by Abu, they will either have the magnetic OR centrifugal. And the real expensive ones get both. Does anybody have a preference? The SilverMax ($60) has the magnetic. The Revo S ($130) has the centrifugal. The Revo SX ($160) has the magnetic. Then the Revo Winch ($200) seems to be the cheapest with the "Inifini" which has both magnetic and centrifugal.

Anyway it seems like I use the other adjustment knob more than the magnetic drag anyway. I'm just trying to figure out what is so great about baitcasters.

>Tl;dr: Pros and cons of magnetic vs centrifugal? Would the extra $40 be worth it to get both?
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Age:
1-8:
>used dad's gear
9-25
>used a 2 foot tall, 40 pound tackle box
26-29
>two shelf box
30
>a plastic box that hooks onto my belt hoop that carries the 5 most productive lures for the particular lake i'm visiting + and multitool + extra line and hooks.


my tackle-box rarely leaves my trunk these days
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>>656865
>40lb box
Heh, I used to have dreams like that when I was a kid. I have had that blue Plano bag for so long though. It is easy enough to carry around. I'm hesitant to go any bigger because that would mean a regular hard box that is near impossible to walk around with.

I was kinda thinking about a smaller bag that holds maybe 2-3 3600 boxes. Pic related isn't bad for tossing a couple lures in and just leaving my bag in the car.

I like when I'm at my quiet little ponds around businesses on a Sunday afternoon. I can just leave my tackle bag in the grass and walk halfway around the pond without really worrying about it. I was at some nature preserve today and I didn't feel comfortable walking more than 10yds away from my tackle and other rods. I don't even like leaving rods in the car unattended with places like that.
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>>656907
Never knew of a rod being stolen. Im sure it happens tho. No shit I ride my motorcycle with my rod attached. So I only have one rod choice. Just a 6 foot medium action with 14lb line and a spinner reel. Never really felt I needed more. Everything from small shiners to the off the dock ocean fish.

But im not the type of person who needs lots of reels and poles either.. If im fishing for food. Im bringing a mother fucking net.
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Got my salt & freshwater licenses this morning. Been years since I've played. Tight lines everyone!
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>>656770

Long Rod, Heavy weight. Cast as FAR AS YOU CAN. Live shrimp. Carolina rig. Chum.
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I own a abu garcia revo S bait caster. It's on a medium/heavy Berkley lightning rod. It's pretty nice, and I only spent 60 dollars on both, because I have a friend who works for Berkley and they have affiliated with abu garcia.
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>>645323
What would you guys recommend for a general and minimalistic tackle set? I do a lot of backpacking and usually bring just number ten hooks and powerbait eggs. I don't want to carry a lot, but I do want to be able to catch something when I come across a lake.
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In my next fishing trip i want to give a try to my fly fishing stuff, i have seen all the videos of how to cast the fly, but i didnt have seen anything on how move it once is in the water. Any tips?
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>>657817
Where will you be fishing?
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>>657817
If you bring one lure, I would tell you to grab a Mepps #1, natural color skirt with a silver or gold blade. Or a gold/silver Rapala, smaller size.

I have caught everything from small bream to 4lb+ bass on the Mepps #1. Just make sure you can cast it. If you are using 12lb line, a #1 won't cast very far.

Also you might want to think about braid line. PowerPro or Spider Wire. 40lb braid is about the same diameter as 12lb mono line. You might be able to find other uses for it /out/.
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What is the best bait to fish panfish in the winter?
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>>657832
Depends on your choice of fly. For nymphing watch Joe Humphrey and drys watch Hank Patterson.
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>>657891
>fishing for 4lb fish
>using #40PP
>not realizing how utterly counterproductive that is.
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>>657817
Why not tenkara?
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>>658252
I was saying 40lb is close to 12lb mono as a comparison. He can get whatever he wants.

Notice the 20lb in the pic, I have 10lb-20lb braid on pretty much everything aside from one big catfish/saltwater rod. And the 10lb is nice for not losing lures every time I hit some weeds.
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Hey sc/out/s,
I bought an auto inflate life jacket for fishing because I often go out alone and safety first and all. Has anyone else used a lifejacket like this before? Have you ever fallen into the water wearing one?
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On the topic of fishing tackle, here's most of my tackle box, excluding my ice fishing lures and some stuff I got for christmas

r8
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>>658288
Good job on the Mepps. I wish mine was that clean. Do you keep it in a bag or just loose boxes?

You do Walleye a lot or what? You have a lot of those spoons. Plus those walleye rigs...

I almost bought a new bag today, a $15 from Dick's that holds 3 of those small boxes. I passed tho because it had these 2 tiny pockets that stick out, but are too small to hold anything useful. All the new bags seem to have way too much padding and make them seem much bigger.
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>>658272
That looks nice, assuming it works (which I'm sure it does). Much better than the bright orange foam things. I like how small it is and doesn't go over your shoulders much so it shouldn't mess with casting. My jet ski lifejackets were still pretty slim, but even those would get annoying fishing all day.

What do those things weigh? Are they nice and light?
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>>658293
I have a bag which the boxes stack in. I mostly catch bass and lake trout where I'm at. This summer I was fortunate enough to land a 32" pike using that orange mepps3

With the spoons, (williams wobblers) I mostly troll for lake trout with. The big orange and green one landed me this lake trout, pic related, last spring
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>>658296
I'm sitting comfortably in my desk chair now
It can't way much, it doesn't registry on my digital scale so with the CO2 canister, less than 2lbs
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>>658299
Mepps are killers. I've never been a huge fan of the ones without skirts, but supposedly those are better for trout than the skirted ones (which I don't catch in FL).

Are the spoons worth casting at all? Or mostly just trolling? I have a handful that I bought years ago but never really use them.
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>>658303
Not bad at all then. Def better than even the wakeboard or skiing foam vests as far as comfort or movement.

Good luck, I hope if you ever need to use it, it's only because you hooked something ungodly that pulled you over.
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>>658305
Daredevils are GOAT! If they're over 1 oz, which the daredevil in your pic is, then yeah they're good for casting.
In my pic
>>658288
, the yellow ones (5 diamond) in the top right box, and the daredevil (red and white one top left, bottom left box), are all good for casting because the weight caries them and they don't reel too close to the surface.

The other ones in my bottom right box are just for trolling. They're a lot better with down riggers but in the spring I've caught lake trout with them while surface trolling.
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>>658311
Do bass bite them? I might have to huck em across the lake next time I'm out. I'm starting to get comfy with that new Abu reel and I'm sure a 1oz would go a mile on that thing.
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>>658309
>Good luck, I hope if you ever need to use it, it's only because you hooked something ungodly that pulled you over.

This lake trout pulled me off my dock. I was reaching down with the net, trying not to lose tension on the line and one last kick pulled me in. It was so worn out from the fight that I was actually able to catch up with it and net it. Ironically if I had of been wearing a life jacket, that fish would have gotten away

>>658318
>Do bass bite them?
Absolutely, both my 5 diamonds and my daredevils are a killer for bass.
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>>658324
Crazy

At least you don't have to worry about gators. The place I was at Friday, there's a 13' gator that lives right under the dock. He's really used to people and just wants to be fed, but I wouldn't want to be in the water with him.

When you can see them, it isn't so bad. It's when an 8'+ gator disappears after he was 10' away from you.
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>>658336
I'm in southern Ontario. I don't think I'd need to worry about gators here. Cold water in the spring is probably the deadliest thing for fisherman here
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>>658341
Those lake trout look like a fun catch tho. I get mostly largemouth and peacock bass here. Peacocks are a fuckin blast tho, I had a nice one follow my lure up to the shore today and I was so mad he didn't bite. A 14" peacock fights like an 18"+ largemouth.

Also snakehead and my one pond down the street has Florida Gar.
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>>658344
Lake trout fight like hell, they're a lot of fun. Good eating too, especially in the spring.

The hardest fight I've ever had with a fish was this 32" pike. The thing sat like a log until it saw the dock then it fought like a pitbull.
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Hey do I have to get a license/permit to fish if its going to be for catch and release? This is for Toronto, Ontario
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I mostly just fish for bluegill, so my most used setup is a Shakespeare Prius light action rod and a Mitchell Avocet II reel. I've had the rig for years and it's caught more fish than I could ever try to count.

Does anyone here do setlines or bank poles? I want to try turtle meat and I have a perfect spot to put out some lines for them next season.
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>>658541

Yes. Always until you're 65 I think.
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Damn it you yanks have it sweet for predator fishing.

>Be Bong
>fishing consists of being very still watching a float or listening for an alarm
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>>658541
>Hey do I have to get a license/permit to fish if its going to be for catch and release? This is for Toronto, Ontario
Yes, and you still need to know what fish are open in what bodies of water. Like in Ontario zone 14, lake trout are open for catch and release in May then are open June July August, but closed entirely in the fall because they're fall spawners
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>>658619
Freshwater sport fishing in Ontario and Quebec is GOAT
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>>658261
Sure its nice for losing lures, however line weight greatly influences fishing depth, lure movement, and cast ability.
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>>658624
>lure movement, and cast ability.
100% this. You'll get way more hits trolling with lighter line
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>>658261
>And the 10lb is nice for not losing lures every time I hit some weeds.

I was using 8lbs test when i caught this which was 6lbs
>>658324

If you're losing lures in weeds it's not the line, it's you bring impatient and just yanking
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>>658624
>>658631
>>658632
What don't people understand about the fact that I am using braid? I can spool like 200yds of 15lb on a medium weight reel.

If it were mono, fuck anything larger than 8lb, unless I do like 12lb on a catfish rod.
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>>658647
Notice the line diameter
>Trilene 4lb Monofilament
0.20mm
>Spiderwire 10lb Braid
0.20mm

Casting and fishing with 10lb braid is almost the same as regular 4lb lures. I can cast an 1/8oz lure just fine. And the braid doesn't get the annoying memory loops like the Trilene.
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>>658658
>>658647
You guys are missing the point.

Line rating affects the movement and depth of your lures.
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>>656153
>profile so even with a 3'-4' leader, it doesn't catch on the guides and shorten casts.
>Casting leaders
What the fuck are you casting for that you need a steel leader for?

Do you even catch fish or do you just buy over kill gear to post picson a Chinese cartoon forum?
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>>658672
Ehh the braid acts really similar to mono of the same diameter. Just without a couple of the drawbacks like the memory and losing strength over time.

Only reason I would take the braid off is to do flouro for some reason. But I do mostly shoreline fishing and flouro makes stuff sink way too fast in most cases.
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>>658673
>not putting a 3' flouro leader for dat invisibility
Ishygddt
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>>658676
>Unironically wanting to restrict lure movement and lure dept
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>>656430
The improved clinch can fail on slipper braided lines. The palomer will not fail on braid unless the line itself breaks or is cut.
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>>658658
Are you a Christmas fag or something? Next time tell Santa to get you proper line
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>>658685
It's mostly PowerPro, although I don't mind the SpiderWire. But PP doesn't show the line diameter on the spool, so It wouldn't work well for that pic and comparison.
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Hi scouts
I'm new to ice fishing I got a rod for Christmas. In the spring I know people catch trout in this river near me, there aren't any lakes close by. Could I go ice fishing on the river or will the trout be hibernating in the winter?
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>>658690
Yes! Ice fishing on rivers is a great idea! Good luck anon
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>>658693
Goddamn this board is shitty today. Normally people are helpful. Must be a Monday thing.
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>>658693
>Trolling in a fishing thread
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>>658675
Your still missing the point.
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>>658715
I guess. I still prefer it. It doesn't seem to restrict shit for me. If anything, it works better. A 1/4oz lure on 10lb braid feels way better than the same lure on 6lb or 8lb mono. Plus the line stays straight, no curls. Doesn't stretch either, so you have more control imo.

If I need anything else, I will just tie on a really long leader.
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>>658690
>fish
>hibernating
lolno, but because they're cold blooded, they do slow down in the winter.

If you want to get into ice fishing, get a few tip ups. Someone to take you out and show you the do's and don't's of ice fishing would be good too, since you don't know much about it. Rivers tend to be unsafe because the current stops ice from forming very deep.
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>>658617
>>658620
Thats such a hassle. I just wanted to try fishing. Thanks anyways
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>>658816
Here's information from the MNR

http://www.ontario.ca/page/fishing

This is for Toronto
http://www.ontario.ca/page/city-fishing#section-5
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>>658816
check your states wildlife department for Free Fish Days

every state has a few days a year where you can fish without a license.
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>>658619
That sucks. You don't have anything that will attack lures? I'm sure there are some sort of pike.

>tfw 6" Largemouth biting a 3" lure
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>>658816
How much is the license? If you are doing catch & release, it has to be easy enough. Especially if you are a resident.

FL is strange because of the saltwater, freshwater, and everything between. There are a bunch of licenses if you plan on keeping certain fish during certain seasons. But I pay like $18/yr for freshwater and shoreline saltwater. If I want to be able to fish saltwater from a boat, I think it ends up being $30 or $35 total, I bought that for my lil bro because his rich friends own boats. Then I think there is an additional snook stamp for a couple $ if you want to keep those in season along with a few more for specific fish.

Either way, $18 for fresh and saltwater for a year. And I don't really keep anything so I don't worry about those rules.
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Just paid 37.50 in Mass for Freshwater and Salt permits/licenses.
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>>658962
In Ontario the 3 year "conservation fishing permit" is $120
The conservation just means my limits to keep are fewer
The next one is sports fishing license which is $200 but has higher catch limits
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>>658975
$40/yr isn't too bad.

Do you even need a permit if you're not going to keep anything? Or is there an even cheaper one for catch and release?

Also, what are the prices like for non-residents? Lots of states in the US, the resident licenses are <$20, but it can be 5x the price if you don't live in the state. However, they will offer daily or weekly passes to non-residents for a reasonable price.
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>>659055
weekly and daily passes exist here too. I don't think there is a catch and release license though. Also out of province is more expensive as well
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>>658930
maine $40 bucks for res fish/hunt combo
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>>659080
How much are hunting tags?
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>>658975
100$ this year. 165$ for sport for the 3 year. or 55$ for 1 year sport or 35$ for 1 year conversation
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>>659355
Good to know
Maybe prices went down or I was just wrong
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>>658975
Just checked the prices and man I gotta say its ridiculous that I have to pay $15 for the privilege to fish.
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>>659387
It's for conservation reasons to ensure the resource isn't dried up by casuals
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>>659086

With combo license you get a bag limit, for anything else you need to apply for lottery, prices for tags are cheap, its hard to win lottery for special bag limits.
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>>659392
Sure I guess, but I'm not even planning to keep the fish.
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>>659399
You will still kill a percentage of fish you release, statistically you will.
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>>659397
In Ontario they do a lottery too, but even if you're selected for a bull moose, the tag is still a couple hundred dollars
Small game fall under a small game permit same with some birds
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>>659403
Res fish/hunt includes 1 deer a year 4 small game kills a day when in season, unlimited coyote, night coyote is 4 bucks

Turkey is 20 for year limit of 2-3 (I forget)

It's really really cheap to hunt in Maine.

You can extend season too if you also hunt with musket, or archery as each has their own season outside of firearm season.
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>>659405
Not sure about musket hunting but we have bow season too

http://www.ontario.ca/page/hunting-licence-ontario-residents#section-1

This page shows all the requirements for different game
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>>659417
Musket, black powder, same thing
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>>649130
Damn that's a nice catch
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Anyone use something like this to go fishing? I had a car at the time and wanted a boat but couldn't tow/store one. This thing folds up into a giant Tupperware plastic tub thing for easy storage. Cost about a grand all in between the boat, motor, floorboard, motor mount, battery, registration, etc. Had to register it because in Texas a trolling motor counts as a motor, is what it is.

It ain't much, but it's my boat tho
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>>659521
Fishing on Lake Boerne. Went out all day, trolling etc. caught nothing. Came back, and 100ft or so from the dock caught a bass. Could have literally stayed there all day instead of wasting the battery. Oh well, it was a nice day and I still had fun.
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>>659525
Me and some buddies farting around at the bay. Putting the freshwater motor in saltwater was meh. Worked, but probably wouldn't do it again. Washed it out real good after and all was fine. It was WAY too windy that day, ended up blowing back to the neighbors pier and they had to get out there. I came way out to the right on my own and sort of drifted in at an angle back to the pier. This was for my bro's bachelor party, good times.
>white people
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>>649130
You have the physique of a chick
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>>648941
Unless you're an injun or northerners, fishing is equivalent to golf;
Patrician as fuck
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>>659521
>hooks...
>inflatables...
I find that to be counterproductive.
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>>659727
I considered that too. Pretty easy though, just have to be mindful of where the hook is. Not enough to deter me from getting on the water. I bought the actual Sevylor floorboard as well so I'm standing on something solid at all times, not just the squishy floor. Gives me something to lay the fish on and a safe place for the hook. The camo boat boot gives an extra layer of protection as well from running over sticks in the water, etc. It's a very durable material, almost like a thick plastic or something. Definitely worth the peace of mind out there. Worse case scenario the boat is dual chambered so if the outer chamber pops I'll still be able to float back in without sinking.
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>>660024

Why not a kayak with a trolling motor instead?

That seems like a temporary craft to me, like after a while it will need replacing from holes/tears etc...

Is storage an issue?
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>>660056
A kayak is awkward to store and takes up a lot of space. This thing folds into a blue rubber tub, and I put the floor board on top. Much easier to store. It's not something I'll hand down to my kids or anything, but it gets me out there. I've been lucky with not getting any holes in it (fingers crossed). And with the camo boat boot and floorboard it's just less area to worry about popping. Plus with the open design and floorboard I can stand up to fish. Nice to stretch your legs sometimes plus have the extra room to store stuff. Downside is the setup time to inflate it, but I got a cigarette powered inflator thing that makes it a lot faster than a foot pump.
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>>660079
*cigarette lighter powered
I plug it into the cigarette lighter in the car for power. Looks just like an air mattress pump.
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>>659521
>>660024
How stable is the thing when you are standing up? Is it worth taking out on a windy day with big waves? Also how fast can you go with the trolling motor and how long does the battery last?

I've been thinking about a kayak or little inflatable. Maybe even a small aluminum boat with a little gasoline engine. I would be nice to have on the canals and swamps/lakes or even the inercoastal.
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>>659387
Do you have any idea how much F&W does to maintain, stock, etc??
It's $ well spent IMHO
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>>660272
>F&W
Fish and wildlife I assume?

In Ontario that would be the MNR
Ministry of Natural Resources
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>>658683
I've heard that somewhere else before, don't remember where. I learned the Palomar when I started chasing catfish with braided line, but it didn't come naturally to me. I just take 8 turns on an improved clench and it does fine. That said, the braid I'm using may or may not be all that slippery where knots go.
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>>660456
>it didn't come naturally to me
By that I mean I'd tie an improved clench and cast, then remember I was supposed to use a Palomar. I've been fishing a long time, folks. Old habits die hard.
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>>660459
I learned the Palomar and stuck with it because it's so damn easy, stays really tight, and doesn't seem to slip at all like some of the fancy lookin ones. I stopped using snap swivels as much because I can tie a Palomar as fast as It takes to open and close the swivel.
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>>660185
It's pretty stable. I have the 9' boat so it's a little small. They claim it's 4 person but there's no way. Maybe if 1 or 2 persons is a kid and no gear or anything. For actual fishing purposes it holds me plus all my gear, battery, seat, etc. and that's about it. I've taken my wife out once or twice but she had to sit on top of the boat at the front. But any 9' boat is small, john boat or whatever. They make a HF 360 version that's 12 foot so I'd highly recommend that over the one I have, just for the extra space. It's like any small boat of that size, rock it too hard and sure you can fall out. Same with a kayak. I've been in bay waters once with pretty high wind with my 55lb thrust trolling motor. That's a big trolling motor for that small boat and I was barely able to move forward towing another boat, see my previous pic. Maybe if the battery was charged more it wouldn't have been so bad. To be fair, trying to paddle a kayak in those conditions would have been really rough as well. I typically only use this on lakes in fresh water because the "waves" are much calmer and it's a lot easier for me to keep it clean vs dealing with the messy salt water. Fishing is just nicer in calm weather. For salt water I'd probably go with a normal boat, something with a hard shell. Especially since where my bay lot is there are oysters as you move into the shallower water. Plus a muddy fresh water shore vs a saltwater shell shore is much easier on the boat. I'm a neat freak and take VERY good care of the stuff I own, so an inflatable boat is no issue for me. That's probably why I've had it for so long. It's a great boat and the storage is my favorite part, takes up very minimal space in my garage. Just something relaxing about being on the water. I also like the fishing rod holders so I can troll around and fish as I'm moving to my next location. I'll be using this thing for years to come, and though it's a bit cramped it's nice to be able to take someone with me.
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>>660776
cont.

The battery life depends on how big of a battery you buy. I usually stay out for about 6 hours and by the time I'm coming in the motor is noticeably slower. But I found out my battery had a leak so it needs replacing. Plus I like to go full power when I first get out there and that's a drain. With a new/bigger battery and a little slower I could fish all day. Just gotta remember it's a trolling motor, they're meant for moving slow. I'm trying to use it as a normal motor so my expectations have to be realistic. I can't see using a regular motor on this thing. It says you can use up to 3 hp but I feel like that would be too heavy for the inflatable rear to take. The trolling motor itself is already pretty heavy since it's 55lb thrust and not 30lb like most people get. I know it could take more weight but again I'm very careful with my stuff so I figure why chance it. Plus one thing I like is when I'm fishing in shallow water and start dragging bottom it's light enough to pull up real quick. A normal motor would be a bitch to lift because they're so heavy. If you're going with a normal boat make sure you have tilt and trim on your engine, just makes it more enjoyable out there. This boat would be great for canals, swamps, lakes, etc. but inercoastal on a windy day might be a bit much. Also if you plan to leave it docked against a salt water pier the barnacles could be an issue banging into them, unless you use a rubber cushion or whatever. All in all if you're on a budget inflatables are pretty cheap to own and trolling motors are way cheaper than regular motors. Not exactly sure of your situation, just stuff to think about.
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>>660788
cont. Should also mention there is a lot of hydrilla at one place where I fish and the trolling motor blade is designed to be able to cut through that stuff and keep going. Nice to not have to stop and untangle that stuff from the motor. Might run into that problem with a regular motor in some places. Could also cause problems with the impeller on a regular motor. But again every situation is different.
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>>660465
I'm that way with the improved clench. Haven't had one fail in a couple of decades. I do use some small snaps, but those are for lures that need freedom to move.
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>>660788
I've got a three horse outboard that weighs about what that trolling motor and battery do. Whenever I get a title for my canoe I might try it on there. Since it's a 14 foot aluminum monster the weight shouldn't matter much.
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>>655353
A little over 1000$ i guess
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As someone who has worked for inland fisheries here's my opinion on licenses etc
>everything I say is relivent to my state not sure about everyone else's

Where I live money from fishing licenses goes into the general fund, not great for us working in fisheries our budget is cut from the general fund
While we should(imho) get everything from licenses into the fisheries program we do well off without it,
I live in a very small state and last year we stocked between 1.4 and 1.6 million fish

If people didn't buy licenses the general fund wouldn't be as large and we would get less, therefore less fish get stocked
Common sense
What we don't get is left in the general fund helps fund other shit that is needed

Will I always buy a license?
Yeah
Will I always support buying licenses even though 100% of it doesn't go to fisheries?
Of course
Licenses are also a good way to pick out the law abiding from the not
From what I've seen MOST people who have a license don't keep more than they are supposed to
Those who don't? Tend to keep alot more

I do understand some people "can't afford it" but these people are also those who are going and keeping (more fish then they should ) to eat

>tldr
>licenses are very good, but not quite great
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>>660799
Sounds like that'd work. I like to keep my battery as far forward as I can since my weight plus the motor weight is a lot in the rear. I don't need to worry about trying to butterfly because the boat would never get up to those speeds anyway. You're lucky that you can go as far as however much gas you have. I'm limited to the battery, been thinking about getting two so I can fart around more out there.
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My favorite lure....
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U.K. Here. I was moving around looking for carp in the summer.
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>>661020
I need to go carp fishing again. There are a few big ones in some of the ponds I go bass fishing in. Used to catch them all the time when I was a kid at the shitty little pond by my house. 24"+ carp is a nice catch when it's hard to get bass larger than 14" at these ponds.

Not sure if the UK carp are the same as the common carp in the US. But lots of people will just use corn kernels for carp. I used to take white bread, take the crust off, and press it into a ball around a treble hook. Everybody thinks it is crazy, but it works well.

Also carp are like the furthest thing from a sport fish in the US. It's strange. They are fun to catch, especially because they get so big.
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>>660918
Right now I just have oarlocks installed so I can row it. The difference between rowing a canoe full of me, equipment, my wife, and my kids and paddling it is amazing. You can move twice as fast with less effort with oars. Getting a double-ended kayak paddle was a step up from traditional canoe paddles, and oars are a big step up from that. The motor would be just for playing.
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>>661049
They're invasive, not native. Lots of places make it illegal to put them back in the water alive. Try mixing Big Red and corn flakes into thick dough. Carp and channel catfish both love it. Put balls of it on small treble hooks, fish near the bottom, have good line.
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>>660933
except that pic isn't OC. Try harder fagit
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>>661059
Welp TIL about oars vs paddles. A motor is nice though, especially as you get older. You can still get out there and get around, but not kill yourself doing it.
>pic of me being /out/
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>>661145
where's the rest of your bike?
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>>661181
It's on the other side against the guardrail. The muffler, brakes, and everything else is on that side. I only got the picture from this angle so that's all you can see but it's all there.
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Line question. I haven't fished in a while and am about to restart. Only used mono so new to this braided stuff.
See the pros, higher test at same diameter, no memory
BUT
everything I read says I will eventually cut myself and badly. Is this true? I really don't want to wear filleting gloves or any really to handle the line.
What say ye /out?
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>>662234
If I get a snag bad enough where I need to pull on the line with my hand, I will wrap my hoodie sleeve or a rag around my hand, then put the line around my hand and pull. Just don't be a dumbass and you will be fine.

I highly reccommend braid. A couple tips from my experience:
1) If you are fishing in real clear water, it might be worth using a flourocarbon leader so the fish can't see it as easily
2) If you are looking at braid and see "Hmm, 20lb test at a 6lb diameter. I was going to run 6lb mono, so I will do 20lb braid". Don't go that route. I made that mistake at first and had 30lb test on medium weight rods. It was total overkill.

So I went down to 15lb or so on those same rods. It is still heavy enough that I can rip through weeds, but it is so much lighter than equivalent mono. So I can put 200yds of 15lb braid on a reel that would hold 100yds of 8lb mono. And lures cast way further with the braid.

Also, braid doesn't get all weak and brittle after one season of fishing and UV exposure. I have been told the best thing to do is run it for 2yrs, then reverse it on the spool, and run for another 2 yrs. The lack of menory is one of the best things. No stupid coils of line floating on the water. Plus it doesn't stretch like mono, so it is easier to feel bites and set hooks.
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Just got a new spinning reel, don't know what I'm doing. How do I keep the line on the little wheel on the bale? Also, should I wrap the line CW or CCW around the spool if I'm using a right handed reel and reeling clockwise? Any other tips would be appreciated.
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>>663441
Little wheel on the bail? CW? I'm confused.

Are you talking about how to tie it to the spool? They always say to us an arbor knot. And if you use braid line, you might want to do a bit of mono as a backing. And the whole "Clockwise" thing, the line is going to wrap around whichever way the reel spins.

I always just open the bail, feed the line thru the first guide on the rod, tie it around the spool, close the bail, and start wrapping until there is like 1/8" left on the spool. And I will normally hold the incoming line between my fingers just to make sure it is nice and tight when it wraps around the spool.
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Are mepps as good as people say they are? Are they worth $5 a pop? What mepps do you guys find best for catching largemouth?
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>>663441
With most brands of line you'll want the spool oriented so that the label is facing you. So if you lay it flat on the floor the label should be facing up. This will ensure the line comes off the spool and back onto the reel in the same direction deterring additional twist in the line.

The little wheel you're asking about is most likely the "line roller." To keep it on there as you're reeling line onto the reel you need to maintain some amount of tension on the line.

Step by step,

- Attach the reel to a rod. It doesn't need to be the rod you plan to use it on. I have an old, broken rod handle that I use to line my reels. The short length makes it less unwieldy. If you have a two-piece spinning rod you can take the top half off to shorten it and put the reel on the bottom half.

- Lay your spool of line on the floor label-side up and run the line through the bottom line guide of the rod, open your reel's bail and tie on. Close the bail and then try to lock the rod handle between your legs/knees. If you have a vise or something similar that can work too, just don't crush the rod. This'll free up both your hands.

- With one hand pinch the line between your fingers above the line guide (somewhere between the guide and the spool) to apply some tension and keep the line taught on it's way down to the reel. Not so hard that you can't reel up line but enough that the line doesn't spool onto the reel loosely. With the other hand slowly start reeling line onto the reel. As you get a feel for it you can speed up your reeling.

Be sure not to overfill your reel. You don't want to spool on so much that the line is flush or extends beyond the rim of the reel. Also a few companies make line-spooling stations which take the place of a broken/half rod, vise/legs, etc and makes it a little easier. Or if you've got a buddy to give you a hand they can hold the spool on a pencil and put tension on the line while you hold the rod and turn the reel.
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>>663442
The "wheel" is 1. My main problem is having the line slip off the bail and unspool itself. How can I keep in on there? Do I run it under or over?

>>663466
Is it better the go through the rod guides before spooling instead of tying the line to the spool, spooling it and then running it through the guides?
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>>663468
>>663469
The line goes under there man.

And I prefer running it from the spool of new line, thru the first guide at least, then tie it on the reel. Makes it all work smoother.

>>663457
I love them. I have way better luck with them instead of traditional spinner baits. And Mepps seems to always spin right and not get tangled like cheaper in-line spinners. I probably own around 50 Mepps. Gold or silver blade with a brown skirt (dressed Agila) is my favorite. #3 is normally a good size for bass. If bigger largemouth are biting, I will go #4.
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>>663469
What reel is that btw? Abu Cardinal? I like those reels, really smooth for the price.
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>>663468
>>663469
It won't hurt if you go through all the guides or don't even go through any of them. I recommended going through the bottom one just to create a point at a fixed distance from the spool for the line to pass through on its way to the reel. If the reel is on the rod you intend to use it with you can thread the line down all the guides before tying onto the reel.

As for the trouble you're having with the line roller. The line is going to end up running beneath it and up through the guides to your lure/hook/etc. But you shouldn't need to manually wrap it under/over the roller. When you first tie the line onto the reel's spool you should have had the bail open. No need to wrap under it or anything like that. The line goes straight from the bottom guide of the rod onto the reel spool with the bail open. Once you're tied on, the moment you close the bail it'll orient the line under the roller as you reel.
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>>663497
Spool skirt and colours appear wrong for a Cardinal. Pretty sure yours is an SX though. Maybe a 20 or 30? I've got an SX10 for my ultra/light tackle.
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>>663505
I believe that one is an SX30. It wasn't bad for $75 or whatever I paid for the combo a few years ago.

His looks exactly the same with different colors. I have an older Cardinal reel (lighter weight) sitting in my closet. That one is all silver. Some part inside broke where the spool doesn't move up and down when the bail spins. I was going to order the part, but idk if it is even worth it. It's not an expensive reel or anything. It is nice that you can order any part for any Abu reel if something breaks. Even for really old reels.
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>>663509
>I believe that one is an SX30. It wasn't bad for $75 or whatever I paid for the combo

Damn skippy. Fantastic performing reels, especially at the price. They're already pretty inexpensive at the big chain stores but you can even knock another five or ten dollars off through online retailers. I picked my first one up at the local Dick's and then ended up getting another for myself and one for my pops through Amazon at about ten dollars cheaper.

>His looks exactly the same with different colors.

I'm starting to agree. The frame almost looks like a dark blue to me but that could just be the camera/lighting, and the silver handle is throwing me off.

>Some part inside broke where the spool doesn't move up and down when the bail spins.

I couldn't find a good schematic and I'll have to do a better breakdown when my desk isn't a wreck but I've a couple ideas you can check.

Your reel handle turns that big gear I have sitting outside the reel. The outermost gearing on it turns the brass-coloured section of the reel shaft and simply drives the spinning action. The littler gearing, again on the big gear sitting outside, drives that medium-sized gear (with the tiny one on top) sitting behind the reel shaft. The little one drives the biggest gear still inside the reel.

I didn't take it completely apart to make sure of it but if I recall right the piece at the bottom of the shaft marked "101-2" has a peg on the other side of it that sits in a slot on the big gear behind it. So when the gear turns it moves the reel shaft up and down. It could be that the peg had sheared off or simply come out of the slotting of the gear. The same is possible for that big piece of metal on the right held by the large phillips head screw. The piece marked "101-2" extends into a vertical-running slot in that piece of metal which helps to guide the shaft evenly up and down. If that piece has come loose it could've also allowed the shaft to detach from the gear below.
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>>663540
Got field-limited.

So the "Is it broke, and if so how broke is it?" checklist would be:
- The smaller gearing on the big gear I took out
- The gears still inside the reel behind the reel shaft
- Part marked 101-2 and the piece to the right with the big phillips head screw holding it

I'd really be surprised if anything actually broke. My money says something just came out of line and needs to be put back on track. I need to degrease and regrease that reel so I'll try to do a proper teardown after work tomorr... err, today. Hopefully it'll make for some cleaner pictures and I can verify what is on the backside of that "101-2" piece. If I can figure out how to get non-potato quality video out of my phone I'll attempt some webms.

Big word of advise: Don't take apart anything to do with the top end of the reel if you don't absolutely have to. Inside that top, cylindrical section are the little bits and pieces that make up the anti-reverse clutch and what-not. They're easy to lose and a pain to put back. Aside from that any other disassembly is fairly painless.
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Need a suggestion for a SMALL cheap(sub 35 USD) reel for my ice fishing rod
I'm planning on throwing braid on it and using it as a dock rod in the long island sound so it needs to be able to hold some line
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>>663540
I actually had Abu e-mail me a schematic of that specific reel. I took it part a few years ago and some gear is broken. I'm just not sure if it is worth fixing a $35 reel.

>>663552
I would say Shimano Sienna. A few years ago I was looking for a smaller reel, and those were consistently rated the best for that price.

Otherwise Dick's sells these white Okuma reels for around $40. Bought one a couple months ago when it was on sale for $30, and I was really impressed.
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>>663621
My real question is how small can I get it? It's going on a 2 ft rod and I need a 1000 series if not smaller

I would keep the current reel on it but I don't think it would hold nearly enough line,
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>>663721
Pic related is the Shimano Sienna. It's pretty damn small.
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>>663790
It's a Sienna 500D, I'm guessing the smallest size.

Here is a pic next to an Abu Cardinal SX30. The SX30 is a regular medium that you would run 6lb-10lb mono on.

My only problem with that small Sienna is that the spool doesn't hold a ton of line. I keep meaning to grab some 8lb braid, I think SpiderWire is the only company that goes that low. Even with 10lb PowerPro, I realistically probably only get like 80yds on there. I haven't actually counted, but I can kinda tell when I make a long cast and a good portion on line comes off the spool.

Other than the line capacity, I have no complaints. I think I bought this reel 3-4 years ago. It casts great. I was amazed how far I could throw a Mepps 0 with it.

Like I said in the earlier post, I originally bought the reel because it was on the top of everybody's list for "Best Reels Under $50".
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>tfw just got a 7ft medium ugly stik gx2 and a penn fierce 4000 for bass and small pier fish like croakers
>tfw also got a shimano socorro 8000 for my main pier rod

How did I do?
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>>663804
Everybody seens to love those Penn Fierce and Battle reels. I keep debating grabbing a combo for pier fishing but I haven't jumped on it yet.

Can't go wrong with Shimano either
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>>663806
>Everybody seens to love those Penn Fierce and Battle reels.

I love it so far, they're really smooth.
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Has anyone use the Storm Arashi crankbaits?

What's are you favorite crankbaits and crankbait colors /<></?
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>>663846
Idk why, but I rarely use actual cranks with the fat bodies aside from really small ones i oown a handful. If I'm catching big bluegill or crappie. I really prefer the long, thin body of Rapalas. I will use the flat bodies like Rat-L-Traps as well.
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>>663849
>>663846
And for color, I prefer natural like gold or silver. Sometimes I use a shad color wih a white body, blue top, and yellow line. I have been having good luck with firetiger and other flourescent colors lately. Peacocks love bright stuff. I can take pics of my crank box later. Maybe I will start a new tackle thread with pics.
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>>663849
A week ago I was literally catching a bass every 1-2 casts with a gold/black half ounce Rat-L-Trap. I love those things.

Does the rattle scare them into attacking the lure or does it simply alert them of the location of the lure if its in murky water? Either way they are really effective.
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>>663852
I believe the rattle is supposed to replicate a school of baitfish.

I have a few smaller Ratt-L-Traps and those are great. They catch anything and everything large enough to bite em
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>>663790
>>663796
Thanks, I would be spoiling with 8-15 lb braid
I wonder if there's a different spool you could get that holds more
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>>663846
Here's my crankbait box. Minus a few that are tied on rods.

>>663862
I mean the 8lb, you should be able to get at least 100yds comfortably on it. That Shimano, I tried to max it with 10lb braid and probably got a little over 100yds, but it was too much and I got a bunch of knots. I'm sure I could put more than the ~80yds I have on there now, but I don't want to risk it.
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>>663863
Here's the Okuma that is always cheap from Dick's. $40 right now (clearance I guess) I think for the -35 (the light one). It is a little bigger than that Shimano, but still a light reel. I have 15lb braid on there, and it holds a good amount. I never measure it, but I'm sure it's like 120yds with room to spare.

That reel is incredible for the price. It's worth checking out.
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>>663866
Can you compare to a dollar ?

I'm basically going to add another ice fishing rod to my aresonal and put a nicer reel on it , spool it with 15 lb braid (I have 15 lb so I may as well use it)
And il use it for pike ice fishing and porgies etc for a dock rod
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>>663621
>I took it part a few years ago and some gear is broken. I'm just not sure if it is worth fixing a $35 reel.
Ah, sorry to hear. I'd say it's a matter of sentimental value, if you want to keep the same reel going or just replace it. Even if the part is inexpensive by the time you include shipping you'd be at least a quarter of the way toward the purchase of a new reel. It isn't like it used to be years ago, at least around here, where you could hit the local rod'n'reel repair place and pick up a replacement part at a fair price. Those little shops are hard to find these days.

It's like everything else. Broke? Throw it away and get another one. I still miss the days when Radio Shack had loads of parts bins. Now all my electrical components come from eBay merchants in China because the shipping is free and the price isn't marked up over 9000 percent. Actually there is an idea for your replacement gear; see if an eBay merchant in China has it at a fair price. No shipping cost and odds are it'll be an authentic part since most everything is made over there anyway.

>>663846
Any particular type or just in general? I haven't used any of Storm's but I picked up a handful of Strike King/KVD 2.5 square billed cranks from BPS when they were on sale a while back. They seem to be a similar shape to Storm's squarebills and a couple of the colour patterns are pretty close between the two brands. I only just put together my cranking setups within the last six months or so but squarebills have quickly become a favourite to throw so I'd definitely advise picking a few up, with and without rattles.

oddball lure unrelated.
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>>663880
This is the Stratus V-35. It is like in the middle of an ultralite and a medium. You would probably run 4lb-8lb mono on it, or 10lb-20lb braid. Like I said, I have 15lb Power Pro on it now and I'm happy.

I believe there is a smaller one, like an SV-25 which will probably be closer to the size of that Shimano. Go to Dick's and check them out. If you don't have one nearby, just order the SV-25 and take my word.

Also I started a new thread guys. This one is over the limit.
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>see a yamamoto baby bass colored crankbait at walmart
>impulse buy it

Sometimes I buy fishing lures because they are pretty and I like to display them.

Am I the only one?
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