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Forgot the title again edition.

>>1029565
And the number (94)

reposting

Hey /out/, mars/hm/allow here.

I just revived a loquat tree from a friend. Any tips for how to grow it so that it can be as tall as it can be and produce fruit by next year. Are they hard to grow, any tips? I'm in South England, near Hampshire if you're wondering about climate

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No homegrowman would use a tripcode.

Get the fuck out of here imposter.

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What's the best way to kill/trap the fruit flies/gnats that like to live in my orchid pots? I spray the fuckers with fungicide and they still live (maybe I'm not killing the eggs?)

>>1029780
>fungicide
I mean pesticide

>>1029780
Get a ping.

>>1029780
Same as house flies. Vinegar in a mason jar, cap the top with clear plastic film and poke a few small holes in it.

Pyrethrin also works if they're eating the orchid but idk if orchids are sensitive to salts like that

>>1029780
Buy predetor nematodes, they will eat the lavrva.

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>MFW summer here is so fucking hot and brutal it kills most plants.
>It's literally my version of winter.
>It's already starting with my zucchini in part sun is getting sunburn.

Last year, it was wet too so all my plants got fungal diseases. Humidity was so high nothing but the eggplant could keep its flowers. I can keep a few hardy solanum alive, but that's it.

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>>1029840
>iktfb
It's hot enough here I only mow after 8 pm and I have to change the hummingbird feeders every two days on the fucking dot.

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>>1029840
Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior of the horrible southern summers?

>>1029840
Why not grow desert plants like succulents and cacti? Prickly pears, for example.

>>1029845
>>1029840

Southern summers aren't that bad, you pussies. Arizona and New Mexico probably suck, though.

>>1029878
Not even from either place, but...
>what is humidity
Rather have 40°C 0%rH than 30°C 100%rH

>>1029942

I live in Florida. It's really not that awful. My growing season is like 11 months, and if you wear a hat, it just feels kind of warm.

>>1030002
thin privilege

>>1030002
>>1030013
Well I'm German and not overweight (1.90m 76kg), but earlier today (pre-thunder) it was 30°C 52% humidity, and I found that already quite oppressive
Probably takes getting used to

>>1029677
Actually, I put the title in my name box. Hence why my name is the thread title.

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Bhut is going bulkmode. The others I moved to big pots are growing taller too, this one is just getting fat, lol. Left pic is on the day of the transplant, right is 10 days later.

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>>1030098

>>1030015
Don't know what to tell you man. I'm 1.96m 84kg and my brother is 1.98 108. He's sweating like a pig while I'm comfy

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I'm gonna prepare a plot this year for growing potatoes, carrots, onions and kale next year.
Problem is that the only land I have is a mixture of peat and swamp. Below the surface layer of turf it's incredibly black, wet and slimy
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>>1030103
Tiny Tim tomato, 6 weeks between pics

>>1030106
>Problem

Use that plot to grow endless amounts of carnivorous plants, sell plants/seeds/cuttings and use that money to purchase a new plot that's better suited for vegetables.

>>1030106
>>1030110
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polder

Beginner gardener here.
I'd love to grow melons but I don't know if I'm ready for that stuff.

Anyone have any experience with them? Any tips?

I hate indeterminate variety's of tomatoes.........

Its impossible to remove all side shoots when you are growing 10+ of them.

Im sticking to bush variety's next year

>>1030157
You don't need to remove them though. Just space them out a bit more than normal.

>>1030158

Doesn't that affect yields?

>>1029942
>>1029878
This here. Dry heat isn't shit. I'll take 100 and 10%H over 80 and 70%H any day of the week.

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I was watching gardening videos at 2 am a week ago and was inspired to plant something. So I took a bunch of pinto beans, germinated them, and put them in a planter. I'm very late in the season and I am in south Texas but we've had very rainy cool weather recently so I'm hoping they get strong enough before the real heat. If they die it's no great loss, I just can't stand having nothing around to watch grow.

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Are we allowed to talk about all things gardening here or is there another general for that?

>>1030181
it seems the discussion is primarily gardening anon.

>>1030164
Everything affects yields. So long as the plant is pulled apart enough for light to enter, air to remove excess humidity, fruit to expand without getting pinched, and you give it enough water & nutrients. Do that and it will increase yields.

>>1030181
Yes. Lots of people have flower gardens and have posted in these threads in the past.

>>1030181
There's also a thread on >>>/an/ that's more gardening oriented, but most people there are into carnivores.

What gardening youtube channels do you follow? Most channels I've found are either vlog style with less focus on gardening or Uncle Marcus filming his tomatoes.

Jeb Gardener is the only one I've liked, granted I haven't looked very hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK6lE_5QofY&t=675s

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>dug out a cockchafer larva and bury it elsewhere because I thought it was a bro
>find out it's a foe

I feel so betrayed I wanna scream

>>1030251
Are you sure it wasn't Cetonia aurata?

>>1030247
https://www.youtube.com/user/markyv69
https://www.youtube.com/user/bnbob01

these boys are based, bob has a bunch of aquaponics and chiggen related stuff too

>>1030275
Thank you. I particularly like Mark's videos with the quail and other animals.

How long do tomato cuttings usually take to sprout?
I've had one in a cup of water for what feels like a week and it doesn't even have any bumps yet. The leaves are starting to turn yellow.

>>1030247
I love Praxxus55712 (outdoor gardening): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6YgvyGnc7HBvBEVAeDnsiw
and VoodooGarden (indoor, mostly tropical plants): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCybRFtFPi5Yw471lNlhRl4w
although they are vlogs of some sort. 90% of the time it's about gardening, though.

Also following:
Brads Greenhouse and Gardening (carnivorous plants, orchids): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDqaMkyqQ8zbFC5kvYrM8CQ
Brock Hughes (hydroponics): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdCssvccatWGY1wQeLTUgoA (seems to have dropped off the face of the earth about two years ago)
MissOrchidGirl (orchids, obviously): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC84mfcCFGDPeeBhKbG8dijQ

And a couple more tiny channels or some that haven't uploaded anything for years.

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>>1030307
Always takes me 2-3 weeks for roots to appear, but sometimes it just fails altogether.
You should remove most of the leaves from the bottom up and let only the top 3 or so stand
No direct sun, and if air is low humidity, a plastic bag can help

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Nobody on /an/ seems to care about hummingbirds. It's the main reason I garden, to attract more of the little shits :3

>>1030331

Before i started growing things the only ever saw ants and slugs in my garden.

Now my garden is full of plants i see beautiful blue butterflies, bees and many other things.

It's nice to know im making their lives better with my hobby.

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>>1030337
it's one of the best part of gardening! I do enjoy growing food to eat but it's also so much fun to plant great flowers and attract wildlife. Expect for deer, fuck deer.

>>1030337
I haven't seen any birds or butterflies, but my garden is attracting a lot of predatory insects. Assassin bugs, spiders, parasitic wasps and paper wasps, that kind of thing.

>>1030258
no definitely a cockchafer alright
thought I was going a good deed because there are so few of them nowadays, turns out they prey on my potatoes

do you guys know if they predate the tubers aswell or only the roots? God let it just be the roots

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>>1030331
>>1030337
>>1030339
>>1030340
you guys should make a species inventory of your gardens, that's what I do for fun

here is Abraxas grossulariata, saw both the caterpillar and the moth in my orchard

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>>1030351
Not a bad idea!

Where I live I only see Ruby Throated Hummingbirds. Pretty jelly of people in the West who get to see different species.

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>>1030331
My neighbor has 20-50 buzzing around his yard at any given time, like someone kicked a beehive full of them. I can never get more than one male that hangs out, chases all the other males away, and dances for the ladies.

They do seem to love these firecracker flowers and the morning glories.

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Found these egg under my beet leave, any idea what it is?

>>1030404
beet armyworm

fucking nuke them

>>1030411
How exactly do I remove them? Spray with water? Pick by hand?

>>1030415
Use your nails? Duct tape? Get creative, my dude

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Instead of killing off the lamb's quarters in my garden I decided to give them a small section of space, sine I've heard they are a forage-able weed. Any suggestions about how to use them?

>>1030418
>Get creative, my dude
So play "Stuck in the middle with You" while cutting them up?

How can one raise a couple of animals and then kill them to eat them, or sell them to a butcher or whatever. I am not a vegetarian, but you put me next to an animal for some minutes and I am already fond of it. Let alone actually raising it from being a baby. I could never say "ok, mr. piggers is big enough, lets have some bacon now" after a couple of years of taking care of him, playing with it, petting it, and so on.

>>1030426
If you want to eat them as a salad green or pot herb let them grow to no more than 12 inches tall. The smaller they are the more tender they are. The later it is in the season and taller they are the woodier the stems get. Treat them like chard and spinach. Spinach actually replaced them in popularity a long long time ago.

If they are growing in rich soil that has lots of nitrogen they will uptake it and turn it into nitrates. If you eat too much you can have nitrate toxicity problems. "Too much" is normally 3 pounds a week.

You can also allow them to grow up and go to seed. Collect the seeds when they are dry. Rub them between your hands to expose the tiny, shiny black seeds. Sow them anywhere you want them to grow for the next 20 years or eat them as sprouts.

The main pest is leaf miner.

>>1030431
You can't. That's the secret, you need to have a large flock/herd to make it not so personal

>>1030431
You basically don't pet, name, play with, or care for them beyond their health. You really need to separate yourself from them in your mind. It is all over the instant you start empathizing with them in any way at all. You must remember that they are your food. Every time you look at them you should think, "crispy bacon with maple syrup", "quarter-pounder with tomato and Gouda", "fried chicken and a movie".

>>1030437
This too. Individualism is easily hidden in a large group. Put an animal by itself and you start empathizing and projecting onto it.

>>1030431
Be practical about it. Chickens and cows get eaten when they stop producing. Goats and pigs when you run out of room for more of them.

>>1030438
God, I just tried watching a video where a lady slits a chickens throat after holding it for a bit and it made me tear up when it started making those little inquisitive chicken noises at her. I feel like a monster for eating meat now. The disconnect from supermarket meat in a nice little package and the animal it comes from is absolutely insane, I wonder how many more vegans there would be if more people actually interacted with these animals regularly.

>>1030431
Don't name it and don't spend time with it. Don't even look at it if you can help it.
My grandfather raised a cow many years ago and made the mistake of treating it like a pet. He ended up selling it to a breeder or something because he couldn't bear to slaughter it.
The second one he raised he made sure to not bond with, and was actually able to eat it.

>>1030442
Humans have only been raising animals for food for about 15k years or so. We've been hunting them since forever. We haven't really disconnected our empathy towards things we care for and need to kill and eat. It just means you are sane. If you really want to eat meat then go hunting. It will be easier on you.

>>1030442
>if more people actually interacted with these animals regularly.
The average person won't form an empathetic bond with every cow on the planet. Even if they were to spend time with a cow, odds are the most it would do is make them averse to eating that specific cow.
Humans form bonds on an individual level. It's the same reason why 100 people can die in a plane crash and the average person wouldn't give it more than a passing thought, while if a friend dies they may grieve for a long time.

>>1030378
so if you only have a couple feeder one or two birds will tend to dominate them. If you put up more feeders (or have more flowers) a single bird can't control all of them, and it has a steamrolling effect. So the solution is more feeders!

>>1030519
Thanks, and I wish it was that simple. I've been asking my neighbors for tips and trying to replicate their set up for years. Multiple feeders, spread out, but not out in the open, with a heavy flowering plants along the borders of the yard. I just can't get the same numbers.

i've seen some cool stuff, like one bird coming along to get the attention of my territorial male, then when he chases the intruder off, a few others come to feed.

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>>1030526
I assume you're using a simple 4:1 white sugar for your nectar? I had 10-20 peak last year peak (right before migration) but spreading them out should work. If the dominate male can see all the feeders they're too close.

Also when the babies are born it's more fun; you can do neat things like put a feeder on your outdoor table and the juveniles, not wanting to fight the bigger adults at the feeders farther away from humans, will have no choice to come and feed right in front of you. I feel like the juveniles are a bit more curious too.

>>1030106
Chinampa

Serious question, any of you grow your own weed here?

>>1030554
Nope sorry And I would say it's damn shame, considering how versatile the methods for growing and usege are.

>>1030554
>>1030556
I should be more specific. You wont have luck asking about it here, is what I meant.

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>>1030554
Not legal (but it should be) so no. Not worth the risk to me personally.

>>1030554
I do not, but I have friends who do so legally, in this state where you can grow up to six of your own plants. It does not seem hard.

>>1029878
These last two have sucked. I'll admit to being a crybaby. I'm going to set up some tall poles and shadecloth to give some dapple to the sunlight and see if it helps what's still alive. Pickle worms killed a zuke I had just sprayed with BT, so I'm pretty salty in general. I just want peas and curcubits...
>>1029860
I have those, but it's just not as satisfying.

>>1029845
I honestly have no idea what you do with okra besides gumbo.

>>1030619
Fried okra is pretty big in the south. Chop it up into little tater tot-sized pieces, bread them, and fry.

>>1029840
AZfag here. Let me tell you about our temperate 120-130 degree summers

>>1030137
They are super fucking easy. My family grows them on occasion, from seed.

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>>1030137
>>1030137
Depending on location, it might be too late now to start from seed (I'm the one who direct sowed some replacements for my sunburnt ones around 10 days ago, for which I don't have too many hopes)
But once established and the weather is right, they go super fast, pic one of those that survived

>>1030275
>decide to browse videos
>opens with hardcore 2edgy4u music
>entire video is about cute fluffy quail chicks

I'm ok with this.

Since I hope to have some peppers this year, and maybe a lot more next year, I was thinking of buying a spice grinder, since I most likely won't be able to use them all.
What type should I be looking for? I'd like it to be easy to clean, since one kind I'm growing is super hot, and I wouldn't want it to mix with others.

>>1030434
Cool, thanks.

As i was checking out my tomato plants today i noticed that one of the flowers is fused (two flowers that are basically conjoined)
Will i get some giant freak tomato from that flower?

>>1030705
Yes, those are quite common. I have several on my tomatoes this year. I think they are the Cherokee cultivar, not sure yet. It is only bad if you are selling tomatoes to a grocery store and they won't buy them because of the deformity.

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I have a baby volunteer tree growing in my backyard here near Phoenix Arizona and I found something I've never seen before. Here in this picture is how the leaves normally look but I found a few weird ones that I'll post in after.

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Two of these are normal for comparison but the others have these weird mesquite leaf like growths out the tip. What's up with that?

>>1030714
>>1030716

Has Fukushima radiation come to AZ?

>>1030331
>Hummingbirds are restricted to the Americas
Fuck you

>>1029841
It's hot here too. I gave up on hummingbird feeders and planted a garden with multiple varieties of sage that keeps them coming back happy.

Should i remove the first flowers from pepper plants?

>>1030729
If you want more horizontal than vertical growth, then yes.
But there's shitloads of debate about it online

>>1030442
>I wonder how many more vegans there would be if more people actually interacted with these animals regularly.
When I was 7 or maybe 8 years old my grandfather made me help slaughter a pig I used to play with when it was a piglet.
He used a sledgehammer.

I eat meat every day

>>1030442
Stop watching PETA propaganda videos, ya bleedin' heart.

>>1030730

If i just leave all flowers on then it wont make much difference?

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>>1030723
just pretend it's a bird senpai

>>1030430

made me chuckle

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SUNDAY UPDATE!

Row-Column: Description

1-1: Garden A
1-2: This is the bed that I suckered all the tomato plants and planted the cuttings elsewhere. Good thing I did that. All of the planted cuttings survived except one that was eaten by isopods. There are a lot of other types of plants in this that needed the extra light. The 3 birdhouse gourd vines are taking over. they've reached the top and are traveling to the center now.
2-1: I'm going to try to leave the tomato plants in this bed alone except for burying their lower suckers and training them up. I'm installing 2 bamboo structures the suckers can climb on. It is already a jungle in there. I may need to cut some suckers out just for light and air flow.
2-2: These Purple Majesty potatoes are doing exceptionally well above ground.
2-3: The onions in this bed are doing great, but the store-bought pepper plants are still very slow growing. The Catnip is blooming and doing really well. The grape & mulberry cuttings are also doing well.
1-3: I'll probably be planting corn in this bed with the elephant garlic, peppers, and yellow zucchini. though, I'll need to move a few plants around for that.
3-3: I installed the last cattle panel for this garden and have been training the luffa plants and watermelon plants up it.

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>>1030818
1-1: Asparagus fruit. I'll add these to the tons I already have. I'll do more starts of asparagus later on. Although, I'm going to test to see if eating asparagus sprouts is something I'll like. Meaning sprouts like you'd grow in a jar for adding to salad, not the spears that shoot up in the spring from adult plants.
1-2: Potential watermelon goodness.
1-3: Mongolian Giant Sunflowers
2-1: Watermelon plant reaching the pathway. I had to rip out one plant. I think the cold weather earlier in the season caused a fungal problem; classic, "Fusarium Wilt."
2-2: Cherokee tomatoes
2-3: Purple tomatillo, looking not purple so far.
3-1: Nasturtium. This stuff tastes great, but it causes my inner ears to itch unfortunately.
3-3: Birdhouse gourd
4-2: Yellow Pear tomatoes
4-3: Italian Red Pear tomatoes
5-1: Burdock
5-2&3: Mockingbird eggs near one of my blueberry bushes.

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>>1030821
1-1: year old compost pile topped with tons of Dickenson pumpkin plants.
2-2: More Mongolian Giant sunflower plants.
3-1: Gypsy Hybrid pepper plants with more Dickenson Pumpkin plants and onions.
3-3 to 4-3: I moved the chicken tractor for the new chickens and turkeys to a new location. I'm moving it every few days from fruit tree to fruit tree so they can fertilize the surrounding area and get fresh grass.
5-1: Peaches! (please don't fall off)
5-2: Concord grapes.
5-3: Clay garden plants doing their thing in nearly pure clay.

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>>1030822
1-1&2: >>1030705 This is what a tomato looks like that had a mutated flower. The flower was extremely wide in one direction, like 6-8 flowers put in a row. The resulting tomato is nearly a semi-circle and is cat-faced on the bottom. This is a Italian Red Pear tomato plant.
1-3: Onion flowers.
2-1: Harlequin Cabbage bug (Murgantia histrionica; now deceased)
2-2&3: Scourge of Brassica, Small White Cabbage Moth Larva and egg (Pieris rapae; now deceased). It has been over a month now and I still don't have my order of insect cloth to keep these things off. I found out the stuff is made-to-order and comes from Asian on the slow boat.
3-1: Ginger sprout, I think I need to dome this pot over because I've lost some sprouts due to mild cold. They hate cold.
3-2: The goji berry plants are still growing straight up. I'm considering topping them so they bush out some. Flea beetles (Alticini sp.) still love them.
3-3: Some of my honeybros (Deliciosus spiticus).
4-2: Peking duck.
4-3: Patriot blueberries.

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>>1030723
you have those little moths right? I mean those are kind of cool...

>>1030821
tomatoes are looking good fampai

>tfw after 6 months Trinidad Scorpion plant finally grew a chilli
>harvest it
>now it's starting to grow 12 more

Weird because it's getting to the middle of Winter here. Should I be putting it indoors of a night time? It's getting down to -1C, -2C of a night now with mostly frosty mornings but usually sunny days. Will leaving it out of a night in the cold stunt the growth in any way?

>>1030878
I'd say yes to both questions

My pepper plants go limp and look like shit when the direct sun is gone for the day.

Ive read this is normal and the plant is basically just resting.

Is that accurate?

>>1030823
Looks great man, nice job on it all!
One remark/question tho, isn't that cage awfully small for chickens?

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>>1030905
I've had that happen to mine a few times, when they got full sun & high heat for too long. I just water em a bit and they perk right up in half an hour, pic related.

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Can anyone tell me what these bugs are? I have a grow light that I sort of inherited with a bunch of plants. I brought a new plant from a greenhouse and now these bugs are all over the place.

Sorry for the terrible quality. My phone is very old and so are the nerves in my hands. I always wanted to grow more plants and just started so I might be a bit ignorant.

>>1030905
Yes this is normal. As long as they go back to no-wilted leaves after sun there's nothing to worry about except giving them a little shade

>>1030818
>>1030821
>>1030822
>>1030823
These pics and your descriptions are great, thanks.

>>1030910
Aphids, you'll have to spray all of your plants with insecticide multiple times over a good week to make sure you kill them all, otherwise there will still be eggs hatching.

This is a very newbie question, i realize... but can i grow something from the fruit i buy at a farmers market? Currently I am in hawaii and there are some interesting plants but I don't know how to germinate them

>>1030923
Yes, for 99% of things it's just
>locate seed
>put seed in soil
>water when soil is dry
>wait

>>1030923
Probably, some stuff gets harvested before the seeds are mature.

Clean the plant of the seed so it doesn't get moldy.then depending on what it is you'll either plant it right away, let it dry for a couple days or maybe put it in a wet towel.

>>1030909

mesmerizing

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If I wanted some kind of invasive yellow flower to plant around the area I buried my moms ashes, what would I look for?

Ideally it would spread across the whole area over a span of time and not cause any real issues for the other plant/animal life around the area.

I was thinking bamboo since it's damn close to lakeside but it's not yellow and my mom didn't really like it haha

>>1030923
Most likely. It depends a lot on the specific plan. Look up the one you're planning on trying

>>1030932
Dandelions

>>1030932
Dandelions? Just look for whatever variety is native to your area and it'll reseed forever

>>1030934
>>1030936
right, but what about actual sunflowers?

>>1030938
They were Hinawa's favorite.

>>1030927
>>1030928
>>1030933

Thanks very much, I am going to try to plant them. Seeds should not dry out though, right?

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What is this brown stuff on this blueberry plant? Also, what kind of mushroom is growing next to it?

>>1030952
An invisible one.

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I have a slop behind my bed and I want to just dig and plant some radish, will it flood if I create a row of some sort?

>>1030958
You're good if you have some sort of ditch to deal with overflow. Most people with a sloped backyard should.

>>1030351
Cutworms, aphids, several types of spiders, red spider mites, the occasional butterfly, wasps, grasshoppers, various stink bugs, catbirds.

>>1030437
>>1030438
>>1030439
>>1030445
Am I crazy if I treat my chickens and rabbits like pets and have little problem eating them when they reach a certain point?

>>1030960
Nah, you're good.

>>1030945
Depends what it is. Stuff like squash should be dried. Something like passion fruit is better planted right away, I want to try these but can't find any in stores.

So you can just grow worms in a bin? How do you do it? It can't just be a matter of plopping worms in a bucket of dirt, right?

>>1030967
Yes.

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>>1030967
You need red worm, and no dirt. They live in bedding such as cardboard and paper. I kill my first worm, they keep trying to escape since I was using bunny bedding which is fill with urine/ amonia

>>1030910
Looks like aphids. If the plant is not too big, spray the plant and aphids with soapy water, then rinse with water 15 min after. Do that once per day during one or two weeks and that should do the trick.

>>1030967
It is for compost? Then you can't just use any earth worm, red worm should do the job.

>>1030952
Don't know about the leaves color, mushroom is probably Coprinopsis atramentaria

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>>1030907
Yes, but those are juveniles, not full grown chickens. They get moved to a much larger cage this week as soon as it is completed. They are still too small to put out and the broilers couldn't run if their life depended on it. There's so many hawks that it would depend on it. The turkeys will be let loose first since they are nearly ready, though they will need to run from the lonely duck. Here's some old pics of the same fowl in a much smaller cage.

>>1030907
I swear I read your post twice and I read it as children both times.

>>1030932
Buttercups.

>>1030952
Has there been a cold snap in the past month or been really dry lately? Temps are usually the reason for that color. The mushrooms are inkcaps of some kind, probably Parasola plicatilis.

>>1030976
>Coprinopsis atramentaria

nu

Anyone tried eating morning glory leaves before? I can't find much on ipomoea heavenly blue etc leaves being edible but I know water spinach is a thing

They're pretty much a weed and climb my fence all summer/fall

>>1030983
Actually it's been pretty wet lately, and the temperature has been warm with an occasional day of cool

>>1030878
Put it indoors at night. There is not much that will kill a pepper instantly, put harsh cold and frost will.

Also peppers saved from a frosty dead will be perennial, so more peppers for you for the next few years.

>>1030818
>>1030821
>>1030822
>>1030823

amazing stuff man. how much space do you have, and how much time do you spend working on it?

>>1031029
http://www.eattheweeds.com/ipomoea-water-land-see-in-gardens/

Make sure you identify using the scientific names. There's so many different ones and a lot of people call them all "morning glory" even bindweed.

>>1031046
I actually need to measure the other gardens. The one with the gravel paths has 528.79 square feet of soil space, but the entire garden with the walls, paths, and fence is around 1,640 square feet. As comparison, the average garden without raised beds and paths is 600 square feet.

This is the first year to be able to work all beds and gardens. I'm comfortably busy and I still have most of the day to shitpost or do something else. Once I install a watering system and mulch after the rainy season then there won't be much to do at all until harvest. Positioning vines will be the main non-watering/non-weeding chore I'll be doing later. Its going to be crazy.

>>1031061
> This is the Morning Glory of drug culture fame. The raw seeds have a little amount of a crude form of LSD.
My neighbor has a shitton of this at the border of her backyard, brb.

>>1031065
word of warning: if you prepare it wrong you're going to get a ridiculously bad stomach ache and probably vomit everywhere

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>>1031029
extract the lsa from the seeds and have a good time

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>tfw you can finally plant your peppers
2 weeks later than planned, but after the sun burned the potted ones mercilessly within a few hours I postponed it to give them a bit more time to harden off.
Wish them luck, /hgm/

The burned omes recover nicely, too. They grew 2-3 inches over the last week.

>>1030878
Mine somehow survived a cold spell of -3°C in mid-April but they were planted in the ground. Wouldn't chance it though
Where are you growing, out of curiosity? Can't be Straya as it doesn't get that cold there in early "December" - southern Argentina/Chile?

>>1031088
are those cans in the ground?

>>1031088
Yeah, it takes forever in shade outside to get them to harden off to the sun. I like your watering system.

>>1031099
see:
>>1031106
It's their pots for more efficient watering.

>>1031106
Thanks.
Well i hope they are good now. Left them in the sun the last week as well and they took it fine.

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>>1030979
I see, makes sense.

>my first strawberry
There's aphids on some of my strawberry stems, I have 3 kinds in 1 pot, nothing special. So far I've been removing them by hand. Is there anything else I can do that won't disturb the plant too much (and that doesn't make the fruit inedible or kill the many flowers)?

>>1031088
Grow well, little beppers!

>>1031140
You could buy insects that prey on aphids, like ladybugs, and release them in your garden.

>>1031140
Just use a spray hose to hose the aphids off with water. Repeat twice a day if it is really bad, otherwise, once a day for a week.

>>1031148
Forgot to mention, my plants are all in pots, in a little greenhouse, on a deck, I don't have a garden.
And I just checked, some ladybugs would cost me more then buying 5x the expected yield in a shop. I've got just 1 pot.

>>1030932
Don't plant invasives you dunce.

There are loads of nice native wildflowers that will spread around nicely. Things like coneflower, black-eyed susan, beebalm, milkweed, etc. would be a far better tribute to your mom. You can buy a bag of native wildflower seed mix from dozens of vendors online.

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Finished a kratky setup.

Are pepper plants on /hgm/ the ThinkPad equivalent on /g/ what draws everyone to them here? I wanna grow some now

>>1031392

I just set up my indoor hydroponic set again, and I had read that rockwool was a carcinogen. Have you considered peat moss? No pictures right now, but I threw seeds in a few starter cups with moss before work.

>>1031043
Just put it into a larger pot today, which makes it a bit of a pain to carry around all the time. Could I get away with covering it with something like a bucket or a plastic sheet type greenhouse or will the cold still greatly affect it?

>>1031091
South Aus, like hell it doesn't get that cold here, this is the 4th week straight we've had it go minus below every night.

>>1031392
I don't really do much gardening, I just really love super hot chillis and figured it would be fun trying to grow some.

>>1030275
I am addicted to Rob Bob's youtube channel now. I am marathoning that shit like it's Netflix.

Please send help.

>>1030731
Your grandfather is based. If more people made their kids learn where meat comes from factory farms wouldn't exist.

>>1030753
We have those in Nevada, but they are more purplish/silver in coloring.

An invasive species? Not that I'm complaining, there aren't any bees for miles around, they are pretty much our only pollinators. All of the butterflies are assholes who don't pollinate shit and lay eggs that hatch and eat everything.

The only thing worse than the caterpillars are those god damn beetles that look like solid black stinkbugs.

>>1030960
No, if anything you're doing it right, spoiling them rotten and then giving them a quick clean death is the best way to do it.

You're wracking up some good spiritual karma, anon. I jelly.

>>1030945
>>1030963
I've found that cantaloupe is the best for planting seeds from store bought fruit. Whether you plant it right away, or dry it, it will still germinate.

I have several wrapped in a paper towel that have been stored in a ziploc bag in one of my bedroom drawers for years, and they still germinate.

I highly doubt that I was simply lucky and my mom unknowingly bought a super sayan cantaloupe from walmart as a gift for me.

>>1030967
No, dirt is what you get AFTER the worms eat all of the compost, dirt is basically just worm shit. AKA "worm castings"

You can create worm castings from anything that's plant matter, so long as it's kept moist, and isn't toxic to worms.

I've seen people make dirt by feeding their baitworms literally nothing but sawdust.

>>1031153
Take this with a grain of salt, but I have heard that a really effective non toxic old wives remedy for removing pest insects from gardens is to make a tea by boiling orange/lemon/anything citrus peels in a pot of water, then gently spraying that water onto the effected plants.

>>1031392
I don't know, I hate spicy foods, but pepper plants are just so cute. I think it's the fact that hot peppers look like christmas ornaments/lights to me. Especially when they turn red.

Thinking about growing some sweet/bell peppers next year.

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Anyone recognize this? I found it in my garden.
My first thought was a rat dropping, but it seemed a little large for that. It was like an inch and a half long and about as thick as my finger.

My tomato plants always look like shit but produce well.
Maybe its because im growing outside in the UK.

>>1031405
Nah, he'd be pro factory farms.
He was a pretty "gotta break some eggs" kinda guy

>>1031432
Alien egg.

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>>1031509
nah that's not an allium egg anon, this is. that might be a pooh though?

>>1031432
Animal crap. Looks like it eats insects like beetles.

so... procrastinating Newbie question... is it too late to get a decent plot going in Zone 4b?

>>1031904
No, I'm still getting "planting everything now" emails from motherearthnews and I'm in Zone 5.

>>1031933
sweet~
thanks anon. I'd panicked that I'd missed the mark this year.

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riddle me this
I live in temperate climate (Germany/Poland border) and like three weeks ago while digging through my compost pile I found a walnut sapling with somewhat unusual shape. I transplanted it into a pot and it's growing and I'm thinking what should I do with it. Not interested in another walnut (got three really large ones on my property already) and I thought maybe I could take advantage of the shape and grow it into a miniature/bonsai?

I looked online and it seems walnuts are hard to grow that way but it looks there is a book
>Bonsai: From Native Trees and Shrubs by Werner Busch
that seems to have some information on the subject
anybody knows where I can download that?
That or anything of the kind, I'd be grateful.

>>1031937
All you need to do is find the first frost date for your area and how many days that is from now. Then look up cultivars that fall within that range. Keep in mind, the "Days-to-maturity" thing is often times for starts and begins when you set them out, instead of from germination. So, look out for that, it is a marketing trick.

>>1031941
ooo... hadn't thought of that, thank you for the warning!

>>1031967

Could you guys post any Infographics you have on gardening, raised bed construction,tips and tricks for different plants? Favorite meals from your garden?

Thank you in advance guys! :)

Will BT kill squash borers?
My chayote squash vines had a couple leaves get soft and yellow and I'm having flashbacks to the last time I tried to grow squash and lost it to borers. I don't want a repeat of that.

>>1031939
I've quickly googled about it because I remember reading about this. Apparently walnuts are notorious to be hard to shape into bonsais. They don't make a lot of ramifications, they quickly set branches that are too long to work with (meaning it can quickly ruin the shape you saw into it), and they tend to keep big leaves. I'm not certain it would be the best species to start into bonsais.
Into a simple "miniature" tree, that may be more doable.

>>1032039
well I'm not dead set on bonsai style, just thinking bonsai tips might be relevant. At this point I either throw it out or at least try to make it onto something interesting and it would be a shame to waste it with the trunk it already has.
I found some sites that have some information but I better figure it out quickly because it's sprouting leaves and branches like crazy

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Ok, dfw guy here. This is my current balcony watermelon setup. 8 hrs direct sun a day. Already has little melons growing.

Its from seeds from my small watermelons I grew last year, same balcony.

>>1032043
Cute! Cute!

>>1032043
Is that enough soil to grow watermelons in? I'd figure such huge fruit would need a large root system on the plant.

>>1032075
Its about 4 gallons of soil, more than it looks.

Just 3 vines and a few snap peas

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>>1032075
Not all watermelons are huge, there are smaller varieties, like those you see on chinese cartoon. Also, the average watermelon have a huge amount of fertilizers and other chemicals that made it grow into the range we see on the market.

>>1032078
Please say all that watermelon was eaten and didn't go to waste for the sake of a comparison photo.

all that watermelon was eaten and didn't go to waste for the sake of a comparison photo.

Wind speed is supposed to reach 43 MPH today.
Im fucked

>>1032221
I strapped my tomatoes yesterday, hopefully the wind didn't snap their shit

>>1032221
>43 MPH

That's not really very much. It is in "Fresh Gale" range. Old twigs on trees will come off, but trees severely compromised with disease or not having good root coverage may blow over/break. Like newly planted saplings that are not tied down properly. For a garden, it is a problem for tall stuff like corn or okra and big leaf stuff like squash and gourds if the latter are trained up structure instead of on the ground. Just tighten up stuff like your tomatoes and climbing vines. Corn usually isn't even remotely tall enough to worry about this time of year.

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God, I'm going to have so many fucking tomatoes and tomatillos this year.

#hype

>>1032260
>tomatillos

Any good recipes? Seems I like them best for fresh-made salsa and that's about it. (hope peppers, tomatoes, and tomatillos all are ripe at the same time this year)

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Can I plant 2 plants in the same pot, 5 inches apart?
Or will they kill eachother?
I already started so I guess if I'm asking if I fucked up.

>>1032265

I've never had them before. I bought them on a whim. All the Spics I know recommend them for salsa Verde, and that's pretty much it apart from just eating them.

>>1032266

Probably. What plants?

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>>1032268
Marigolds. 2 in each pot. Large pot. All of the plants are about 8 inches high. I don't see any dying off or wilting. They haven't started flowering yet, though. If it's a problem I can just dispose of the weaker ones.
I also put 2 sweet basil in 1 large pot. They're about 4 inches high. I can transplant them if it's going to be a problem.
I planted about 6 green onions together in a single, small pot. They are growing strong so I thought I could do the same with my marigolds and basil. Maybe I'm just retarded though.

I'm also growing mint, catnip, and rosemary. They are all one plant per pot, through.

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>>1031088
Got another pepper plant. Now I own all 5 cultivated Capsicum species over 27 varieties.
How many peppers are too much?

Also pic related, has anyone here experience with Wasabi plants?
I potted it in a mix of compost, compost soil, planting soil and the sandy stuff I have around naturally. pretty close to forest soil i would say which is the natural environment of the Wasabi. I also put it under a small tree close to a body of water.

Semi pic related, has anyone her a good remedy for algae ridden ponds?

>>1032273
Google "____ plant spacing" like "marigold plant spacing."

Marigolds and sweet basil are 8+ inches. You need to know the onion cultivar though.

>>1032268
You can use them to make all sorts of sauces and chutneys. I find the seeds to be troublesome when I dehydrate them then rehydrate them for various dishes. I have a Squeezo strainer and this year I'll try removing seeds using that. You may like them in stir fry too.

I find that the younger, immature green ones are best for that "green" flavor require for soem salsa verde recipes. The fully ripe ones always have a really nasty sticky substance that smells like old gym socks between their outer skin and the paper husk over them. I always husk them and wash them with soap and water to get rid of that before using them.

>>1032291
>Wasabi

Oh wow, difficult plants to grow correctly. Here and good luck:

http://www.wikihow.com/Grow-Wasabi#Planting_and_Caring_for_Wasabi_sub

>>1032291
>Semi pic related, has anyone her a good remedy for algae ridden ponds?

Bale of straw. Toss it in near the shore where you can grab it. You may need a cage for it or just a rope tied to it. When it sinks, take it out and let it dry out then put it back in. However, if the cause of the algae is from fertilizer/animal manure run off, you'll have a hard time getting rid of it forever until you fix that issue first.

My hen is sick. Easter is a 3 year-old red sex link (hybrid not known for longevity) who has survived attacks by possum, husky dog, and mystery (fox?). She never laid again after the husky dog, though.

The main thing is her miscoordination, she's pecking at air, and weak. Yesterday my spouse found her in the poop box under the roost. She had to be lifted out. She ate, drank and pooped. But she is having a hard time finding the food and water - she keeps pecking in the wrong spot. At first her head kept nodding, and she's a bit unsteady on her feet. After eating and drinking from hand held bowls, she did go outside with the other girls and do some preening; in the evening she climbed back in the roost.

This morning she's back in the poop box. About an hour after being lifted out she hadn't moved and was sitting on the floor with her eyes shut. Her comb was purplish in the back and floppy. I got her to drink - almost a full teacup of bone broth, and she had a good appetite for feed and blueberries, but again keeps missing the food. After about 45 minutes her comb is looking a better color, though still floppy.

I wonder if she is having a neurological problem, maybe she had a stroke? Or maybe her eyes aren't working right, since she responds well to sound (rustling the food or swishing the water). I'm sure being dehydrated and hungry makes her symptoms worse. My spouse found some info online that says a sickness like botulism could make a chicken uncoordinated. (I have washed my hands). I wonder if I need to put her in the isolation coop, for either a communicable disease or to keep the other 2 girls (mellow americaunas) from potentially attacking weakness.

Any thoughts, experiences, advice? I know it might just be her time. She's been a good chicken, sweet chicken.

PS I haven't been around to post my garden lately, but it's nice to see what everyone is growing.

>>1032221
Up to 60 over here in Belgium, my basil almost blew off the deck >_>
I put everything inside just to be sure, and weighed down my greenhouse cover some more.

>>1032273
>>1032266
You just might have to fertilize and water more because they are competing for limited resources.

Just give em some extra juice.

>>1032324
Also Belgium, I just put all my potted plants inside for the day.

What's /out/s opinions on tree farming? No, not logging or that sort. Looking into grabbing a couple hundred Thuja Evergreen seeds and a couple other species native to my area/not invasive. There's only one tree/ornamental nursery in my area, and they're still pretty far away. Could this be my new career or will it just be a short hobby?

>>1032427
Why not fruit trees, anonymous?

>>1032439
I haven't looked into them much, and don't you need to spray/pollinate yearly to get a decent crop?
I figure with a few good mother trees I can achieve a couple hundred clones

>>1032439
Also in my area, about the only fruit I could successfully cultivate is apple

>>1032453
>don't you need to spray/pollinate yearly to get a decent crop?

Not really. They are mostly plant and forget, providing you made the $100 hole and water it for the first month or so.

>>1032303
Godspeed anon, it's nice that you care so much. You are a good person, I hope she either recovers or dies quickly so she doesn't suffer.

>>1032406
Eyy, where you at/whatcha growing?

>>1032494
Interesting. Might plant a few apple trees. What kinds would you recommend? How long/how many years will it take to get a respectable harvest off a few trees? I'd preferably get a fall ripening variant

>>1032494
Also, my main worry with fruit trees, especially apple, is the pests/mildews and shit. From what little I read they seem fairly common

anybody ever tried a dome greenhouse?
or are those, as kids these days say, a meme?

>>1032296

Good tips on tomatillos, thanks.

>>1032324
>>1032406

What's it like living in a country so small that the weather is the same everywhere?

>>1032621
There's some variation, but not much. Pretty good overall, good healthcare, got a great job, and most of my friends live at most half an hour driving away.

I hate to see your shitty garden too. YOU SON OF APHID.

You think you're a 4chan pro? I was already coding while you're still sucking ya mama's breast.

>>1032614
They are interesting, but if I were to build one I'd raise it up on a 4 feet high foundation wall.

>>1032596
>What kinds would you recommend?

It really depends on your local area and personal tastes. Also, are you doing to be making pies or eating them right off the tree? Things like that play a role in what you plant. You also need to plant more than 1 cultivar so they can cross pollinate and give you a proper yielding crop.

>How long/how many years will it take to get a respectable harvest off a few trees?

8 years for a $100 hole, baring frost damage.

>>1032600
>mildews

Mine are nearly black on the outside from a mildew, but it washes off easily and doesn't effect the final product.

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Anyone know what kind of tree/shrub this is? I only just noticed it today, popped up on its own. I live in Cary NC. Will post another pic, they'll both probably upload sideways, not sure why it does that.

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Pic 2. Hard to really make out anything with all the other shit in the background.

>>1032667
Probably the eat off the tree variety. Are specific cultivars better for jams and such? Regardless I'll plant at least 2 varieties

>>1032041
Since there's nothing to lose you may still try. I don't really have any tips, do you know how to properly cut branches (above a node with the right angle)? Also if you want a big trunk, you'll have to put it in a big pot. Once it's in a small pot the diameter gain is limited

>>1032671
Looks like a pear or some other rosaceae to my eyes, anon

>>1032702
Yes, but there's literally 1,000s of apple cultivars to choose from.

http://scottfarmvermont.com/heirloom-apples/heirloom-apples-review-1/

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What's eating my bean plants? I searched for caterpillars and the usual bugs but couldn't find anything. South Texas for reference.

>>1032671
>>1032672
prune it to get it growing straight so it will stop hunching over

>>1032793
Cucumber beetle or similar?

>>1032303
Have you posted or gone on Backyard Chickens? It's a fairly extensive resource of info and people usually seem eager to help. Also I'd say get some of those liquid chicken vitamins they sell on Amazon, rooster booster or something, it's helped my weaker hens recover.

>>1032793
Even if you couldn't find them, it could still be caterpillars. They can be sneaky that way, from personal experience.
Cutting the bottom out of a plastic/paper cup and placing it over your plant can help protect it from terrestrial pests.

It could also be leaf hoppers, I'm in South Texas as well and I get these green, triangular-shaped ones that seem to love my bean plants. They're pretty chill though, so it's easy to pick them off with pliers and crush them.
You have to look closely, since they're the same shade of green as the plant and tend to blend in. They're about the size of a grain of rice.

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When the leaves go limo like that it means they had too much light right?

>>1032971
You planning to graft the guac tree?

>>1032974
How would I do that? I just thought they looked neat as a plant should I perform a snibbening on it

>>1032982
no friggin clue but I guess it doesn't really matter if you're just growing it for ornamental reasons

they won't grow true from seed

>>1032985
Is it something humans did to the tree where it's seeds aren't fruitful I was always curious about that and why we need to graft

I got a ton of leaf mold(about 5 cubic meters) gathered from an area near my "farm". Since my soil is mostly heavily weeded clay, which vegetables do you guys recommend planting in it?

Right now, most of my clay is supporting a buckwheat cover crop, next week it's scheduled to be cut and incorporated into the soil, at which point i'll also be adding the gathered leaf mold. The site gets full sun(it's a field) and due to being a rice field in a past life(it's been fallow for 3 years), is almost too good at holding water.

At the moment, I'm leaning towards romanesco and eggplant. However, I'm open to suggestions. Also one of my neighbors has given me about ~2000 seeds for burdock(gobo). I've heard that potatoes do ok in clay and indeed many of my neighbors have around 100+ potato plants in their gardens.

For reference, I live in central Japan, rainy season is starting in about 2 weeks, for 1 month, then it'll be 28-35C for about another month. First frost is in Mid-Late November.

>>1032987
When you grow from a seed, the genetics are a random mixed bag. You'll probably get avocados, but they might not be good for eating. Certainly not to the degree you find in stores.
For this reason, the common practice is to grow a rootstock from a seed, then cut the top off and graft a branch from an existing avocado tree onto the roots. In this way, you clone the tree, and so guarantee that your tree's avocados will be just as good as those of the tree from which you took the branch.

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Dumb question, but I can't seem to find an answer to this because my googlefoo is weak.

I've recently got into planting shit, and I want to expand my collection to any plants I encounter while /out/ if possible via cuttings, but I can't seem to figure out if there is a way to know if a plant can be propagated as such. Is there any generalizable rule as to which plants can be propagated by cuttings? Like based on plant characteristics or place on the evolutionary tree or something?

Also on a related note I read an old manual from the AHS on plant propagation which mentioned propagating plants via cell culture, is this something which an amateur could do in the field or is this more of a technique requiring laboratory conditions?

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>>1033036
>Is there any generalizable rule as to which plants can be propagated by cuttings?
Some such plants can form the beginnings of roots near their base if they're stressed, or in moist conditions.
If you look at the base of the plant and see a lot of bumps, those are the beginnings of roots. It means the plant is definitely capable of sending roots out of cuttings. Pic related is of a tomato plant with such bumps, as an example.

>>1032570
Leuven, just peppers, peas and a bunch of herbs; not a lot of space for more.
What about you?

>>1033040
Interesting, thanks for the tip anon.

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>>1033061
Leopoldsburg, 1st floor with a big balcony, started with a few peppers, now I also have some strawberries, cherry tomato, basil, chives, thyme, and some carnivorous plants.

>>1033155

Nice to see your peppers are as small as my ones.
I was worried they was to small for this time of year.

>>1033183
I'm a first timer with everything, just going by google & feel. I put my seeds in the germination tray at the end of march.
Which ones do you have?

>>1033155
Leuvenfag here
My peppers are small as shit too, but I was late planting them.
>>1033183
A buddy of mines are about 25-30 cm tall by now but they've never been topped

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My jasmine started flowering, so beautiful and aromatic.
Though the bottom of it is starting to dry off and fall. I ignored it at first but its starting to get worse.

More info: Windy zone. A lot of sun/dryness and small pot, so I water it once every two days aprox, I don't usually water it unless I notice wilting due lack of water.

>>1033318
How often do you peen on it?

>>1033318
>I don't usually water it unless I notice wilting due lack of water.
That doesn't sound often enough to me.

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Trying containers this year, going ok.

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>>1033393
what kind of tomato are you growing in the pot to the right?

This little guy is a "Indigo Fireball" that I picked up from a garden center. Can't wait to see it when it's ripe.

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I pull up some carrot for thinning, can I replant them? If not, I have a rabbit who would love these.

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>>1033509
>can I replant them
Disturbing carrots tends to cause them to get weird, like pic related.
They might still be edible, but they won't be able to just keep growing normally like nothing happened.

>>1033543
Ohh thanks, maybe I can get one that grow like Jesus and sell them on ebay.

>>1033509
Yes, but they will suffer and their growth will be set back by 2-3 weeks usually. Sometimes you get gnarly shapes. If you have room, go for it.

>>1033509
By the way, do not feed your bunbun too many carrots. They are a treat, not a main meal.

>>1030960
That's called sociopathy, senpai. But don't worry, in this case it works out for you. Just try not to kill someone when you get bored.

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>>1032635
>>1032640
Who are you even talking to?

>>1033036
Just buy some of that root stock hormones. Make a fresh long oval cut at the base, dip it into the root stock, then wrap in peat moss. After that, just keep the peat moss moist until you see the roots.

>>1033739
>Make a fresh long oval cut at the base
You mean cut the branch at an angle so the end is a wedge shape?

>>1033739
Alright, bought some pure IBA powder off the net and will make some rooting compound. Thanks mate.

>>1033748

Yes, in a much more concise and poetic way.

>>1033664
>>1033509
In case you don't already know, you aren't supposed to feed rabbits carrot roots. You only feed them the green tops. That is a really big and highly perpetuated misconception. The reason you don't feed them very much is because the tops are super high in vitamin C, potassium, and calcium. Humans can eat them too, just treat them like a dietary supplement you only have once in a while.

>>1033757
>>1033739
If you have access to any species of salix trees (willow) you can make your own rooting hormone. Either the slow way via sprouting salix cuttings in water with your target cuttings or the fast way via boiling salix cuttings in water and steeping them over night then using that for the target cuttings.

What causes brittle tomato leaves.

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Anybody else really into fig trees?

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>>1033794
Sure, I only give her as treat, she love it and still alive.

>>1033820
>the fig hobbyist is back

I love eating them lad, don't have any trees tho
tell me about that cage in the back, what are you trapping?

>>1033820
I have an absolutely massive fig tree in my back yard. There's also a muscadine vine intertwined with it.

>>1030157
>hating on gigantic tomato plants that keeps growing more tomatoes faster until you have a bushel to harvest when frost hits

>>1030137
buy some fancy soil
dig hole, put fancy storebought soil in hole
put melon seed
water it every other day

that's it, storebought soil is not required, but it will prevent your retardation from not understanding soil.

>>1033914
another retard anon here, how to understand soil?
i feel like the margin between underwatering and overwatering is slim and if you overwater it your plants just flat out die. a lot of people talk about PH, how can you actually test it?
what are the clues i should pay attention other than wet/dry?

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>>1033820
I had started a few seedlings indoors around Oct '15.
Pic is tallest one so far (~1.50m), had planted it last late spring, but then around August someone/thing/the wind... broke off the top, so it would be even taller now I guess.
Not fruiting yet though

Another few were kept potted (generously sized, and fertiliser added every now and then) but stayed much smaller, only planted them this February, supposed to make a hedge some time

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>>1033962
>How to understand soil
Read a book, such as the one in the pic. You should also be able to find various other books or sites on horticulture which have sections dealing with soil in a more general overview, which is honestly all most hobbyists need.
>PH testing
You can use litmus strips or dye indicators but one of the best options is a PH meter. They are pretty cheap and accurate however you will need to calibrate them, they don't just work out the box

Not an expert on either though so take that advice with a grain of salt.

I have some common sunflower that cluster up together that I need to thin, can I replant my sunflower from cutting?

>>1034255
Cutting? I don't think so, but go ahead and try. Report back.

>>1033962

1/3 compost
1/3 peat moss
1/3 pearlite

Boom! Killer potting soil. Been making it myself for years. I'll make a big batch in a rubbermaid tub and mix in more whatever for certain plants.

Sand/pearlite for cacti/succulents, more peatmoss for seed starting mix or acid loving plants (tomatoes), a handful of hardwood ash for alkaline loving plants (olives).


Going to pick up 1500lbs of expanded shale tomorrow for aquaponics medium. Heres to hoping I dont throw out my back.

>>1034272

Very cool. Any pics of current aqua setup?

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Last year beans

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>>1034365
and tomato

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>>1034366
This year potato

>>1034367
how many tubers did you plant

>>1034395

30kg of tubers

>>1034367
>>1034366
>>1034365

Fuck, Australia. That is so fucking sexy. I can't wait for Zimbabwe or SA to crash, so that I can go into the no-man's-land and carve out a little piece like that.

>>1034414
>Wanting to live in a failed state in Africa
Anon, there are easier ways to kill yourself you know.

>>1034421

After the revolution. Rhodesia 2.0, breh.

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>>1034414
It's Balkans, anon.

>>1034428

Huh. What were you doing up so early? Why weren't you commencing with the traditional nightly blackout drunkenness?

>>1034429
it's noon here,mate.There is no blackout if you never stop with drinking.

>>1034407
are those for personal consumption or you sell some on the side?

>>1034435

It's probably for vodka.

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>>1034435
For me,i want to eat real vegetable, not tasteless shit full of chemicals.

>>1034442
what do you do when you get pests?

>>1034460
I almost don't have problem with pests, my garden is isolated so i don't have Colorado potato beetles. I only use cupric sulfate with tomatoes and grapes. OTher bugs don't make big damage

>>1034442
and how do you earth them up? Do you do it right after you plant them? Looks like a fucking jungle in there

>>1034435
>>1034436
30kg isn't very much really. It also depends on the variety you plant as to how much they will yield (pretending everything is optimal of course). Tasteless white potatoes like Russets are high yielding which is the main factor they are grown so much and sold in stores. Yukon Gold isn't nearly as high yielding, but tastes amazing in comparison. Normally, your goal is to plant enough potatoes that when you harvest you'll have enough potatoes to last until next planting season. You'll use a portion of those as your seed potato crop. You also want to plant more than you think you need just in case of crop loss (too much rain, voles, storm damage, too many freak frosty cold snaps in a row, etc)

Thus, 30kg is technically not enough for 1 person, unless you don't eat that many potatoes at all.

>>1034470
>>1034460
Potato beetle larva make great fishing bait, fyi. The last time I took a can of them fishing I caught a ton of delicious channel catfish (the younger ones tend to go for bait like this).

>>1034483
He technically doesn't need to. Those are determinate variety of potato which don't need to be mounded up. You only need to look out for near-surface tubers that break through to the sunlight. You can add a thin layer of mulch to keep those covered. Indeterminate potato varieties are the ones you should continually mound up as their vines will continue to grow (those are the type you use in those grow box infographics).

For the determinant varieties of potatoes you simply plant deep (4 inches below surface) and mound up (4-6 inches) when you cover the starts. They will come up all the way through the 8-10 inches of soil, giving you plenty of underground stem for tubers to form. Then just thinly mulch as needed (too much mulch can rot your potatoes with too much moisture)

>>1034484
30kg of tuber gives around 200kg of potato if year is fine.

>>1031394
Rockwool is carcinogenic because of its physical makeup, not due to a chemical it contains.
Rockwools tiny super hard fibers can cause cancer like asbestos, fiberglass and carbon fiber, by literally stabbing and blending your dna cause its so tiny, hard and pointy.

>>1034548

Exactly. Why would you want particles of that floating around in your house? Just use peat.

>>1034556
There are nanoparticles/nanostructures in everything these days, probably makes no difference if you have sopping wet rockwool around in a hydroponics system.

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>>1034557
>You're going to die anyway, just end it all now, but do it in a way that makes you really miserable for years.

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>>1034567
Don't knock it till you try it.

>>1034543
Minus the ones you use to replant, that leaves you about 1.1lbs/0.5kg of potatoes to eat each day. The best my Yukon Golds ever gave was 90lbs/40kg of potatoes from 25lbs/11kg of seed potatoes (3.6x). Russets give a better yield though. 200kg from 30kg is 6.66x; over double the yield. What cultivar are those potatoes in >>1034367 I think the average range for a single miscellaneous potato plant is 3-5lbs/1.3-2.2kg.

Migration time, lads.
>>1034574
>>1034574

Migration time, lads.
>>1034574
>>1034574

Migration time, lads.
>>1034574
>>1034574

Migration time, lads.
>>1034574
>>1034574

Migration time, lads.
>>1034574
>>1034574

Migration time, lads.
>>1034574
>>1034574

Migration time, lads.
>>1034574
>>1034574

Migration time, lads.
>>1034574
>>1034574

Migration time, lads.
>>1034574
>>1034574

>>1034576
We're still on page 1 though...

>>1034581
Not in ten minutes though...

>>1034590
/out/ is a pretty slow board, though. imo as long as you can still ctrl+f it in the catalog and it isn't on page 10 or whatever, it isn't really that imperative to make a new thread right off the bat.

>>1034590
imo i disagree

>>1034576
>>1034601
You're wrong and the other guy is right. All you need for a general is a title so you can find it in the catalog. It'll be another week until this thread is actually kicked off page 10, and do people really use anything other than the catalog anyway? Also, please remove your tripcode.

>>1034604
>another week
>lol, no

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>>1034573
I'm fine with half kg.
It's the Désirée.
Thats my weekend house, i'm not always there, so i'm really happy with garden.

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>>1034615

How nice of a life can I set up in your country for $40k U.S.? Sorry for vodka comments earlier.
Just transplanted a bunch of shit from my aquaponic because it wasn't jelling too good.

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>>1034629
Don't worry, we are rakia drinkers. Cheers!
With that money you can buy complete farm here and live few years without incomes, put solar panels, buy car and farm animals.

>>1034634

Fuck me, dude. You Slavs know how to fucking do it.

>>1034634
What country are you from? I am planning on moving to Czech and for 40k in Czech you can't get anything close to that.

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>>1034640
Czech was almost double expensive than my country in 2008. when i was there. Not sure now. People here after WWII left beautiful houses and fields in isolated villages, because of industrialization and fucking Tito parole factories for the workers...Now you can buy whole village with 40k. Nobody wants to buy land in isolated rural areas.
Serb here

>>1034653
How do the living costs compare for you as a citizen? Are things still relatively cheap? As a Belgian, Belgrade was super cheap even being the capital city (then again Belgium is extremely expensive) so I can only imagine what the countryside would be like. Maybe one day I'll buy a small farm in Vojvodina.

>>1034285

It's just in pieces right now, nothing to look at.

The landscaping company lied to me on the phone, they only sell it in "50 lb" bags of expanded shale, which is like, 0.5 cubic feet. For $5.99 a bag. I need 10 cubic feet, minimum. It's not worth the cost, or the trouble to do bags, so the search continues. I've emailed local concrete suppliers, landscaping companies, and even the manufacturing plant. Either nobody carries it, or they don't sell to the public.

For having one of the only ~15 expanded shale plants within a half hour of my house, it sure is really hard to get a hold of in bulk.

>>1030932
Daffodils or black eyed Susan's would be good

>>1034700
Brands are expensive like in EU, other stuff esspecally outside Belgrade are cheap,but people have really low incomes. If you have big piece of land you can live really good, your income would be like in Belgrade, but with province prices.

>>1034821

I don't know what expanded shale is, but if it's just shale, then are you not worried about weight? That was my primary concern.

>>1030431

Kinda makes you think about the religious metaphors of God as a shepherd, right? These were written by people who knew first hand that flocks are cared for, provided for, guarded... And eventually slaughtered for roasting.

>>1035474
Or it could be that the Hebrews were primarily shepherds and molded their God in their own image.

>>1034272

Mel recommends this in Square Foot Gardening, except he uses vermiculite. It's a great general soil as long as you keep adding compost over the years.

>>1035475

Either way, it's a different vision of religion than the "flock of a hundred fluffy pets" image that shepherding evokes in countries where most people don't encounter livestock.

>>1035571
It's almost as if Christianity(and the other Abrahamic religions) are a completely alien religion in most parts of the world.

>>1030554
Last year was my first time in the big wild and it was a total waste because of my own stupidity.
I am going to prepare the spot (illegal here so sadly guerrilla) this year with nice big holes and the so called super soil which is guano, blood and bonemeal, this kinda stuff.
Gonna plant six little nuts again next year and do it all right this time. Next years summer is supposed to be a very good one too, I'm psyched.