[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/ Still no Ninja 10

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Post your comfiest riding position.
I do this sometimes on long trips. Put feet up on engine cage, cruise with one hand on the throttle.

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>>17716934

Are there any helmets in the $100-$150 range that are better than the Bell Qualifier and Bell Qualifier DLX Blackout?

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>>17717003
I ride around town like this when I don't have to turn or brake for a while (obviously reversed for throttle hand)
I had to lower the seat to match mine but I'm not sure of the exact measurements

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Still under last dregs of my learner laws but about to get second (technically third, if you count a scooter) bike. Parents are buying it because why not, but it has to be under 150kW/1000kg power to weight ratio. This basically restricts me to cruiser or scrambler style bikes, which I'm totally okay with because I won't be getting rid of my current sport bike.

I'm really inclined to go with a Guzzi V9. Anyone else got suggestions?

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>>17717104
Bolt for best cruiser and tracker

>>17716934
Hoe do you move your legs and hands around like this

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>>17717104
get a supmo if you are not a shrimp and enjoy riding until it gets stolen.

can go green lane, can be dropped with no damage, cruised on my 650 at 90mph all day long, can apply full throttle in any corner anywhere and sticks, wheelies, jumps, curbs cannot damage down pipes, no worries about reliability or spares...

occasionally gets stolen though, just like my previous

>>17717195
don't need paddock stand, just get a bench underneath the engine, built to last in dirt so salty winter riding isn't a issue...

as long as there are corners on ride outs you can keep up with any bike depending upon your skill - which I have done against numerous 1000cc supersport bikes.

list literally goes on, cannot recommend enough

>>17717104
I think the v7 looks a lot better but I know next to nothing about them

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>>17716934
>elbows rested on knees
>chin on tank

There is no adjustment for seating position but it's all the way back. Pretty comfy behind the windscreen with one hand on the tank as cushion for the helmets chin

where do i get the dbt and death by throttle stickers if im a europoor

>>17717170
I usually do it when I go straight for kms on end. I don't know how much you flail your arms around trying to turn but counter-steering still works fine, you just have to press or pull the handle forward or backward. No sideways motion required.
Why would you move your legs around?

>>17717215
I tried this and it works for a while but then my neck starts killing me because I have to tilt my head way back to be able to see.

>>17717301
Come to SEM, I still have original cursed DBT stickers left over.
It's like you fags are scared of crashing.

>>17717307
i havent been on dbt a while.

when is SEM? i thought it happened already

>>17717309
It was 2 weeks ago. Come to the next one. Probably late July / early August again if the last 3 years are anything to go by. Pyrenees and Slovenia were mentioned as possible meet locations so far. Oh, and WR's mum's pusay

Anyone in germany wanna buy a black '16 SV650?

>>17717315
I have a black 16" D for ur mums SV ;)))))

Anyone has experience fixing plastics?
I am repairing this pieces until I find replacement.
Any tips and tricks?

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>>17717356
Of course I forgot the pic.

What non ADV bike will be suitable for a 2 meters long rideur?

>>17717359
duct tape

>>17717360
I sat on the MT09 (new one) with an 84cm inseam and 187cm height and it was great

Fiancé wants to learn to ride a motorcycle, and expressed interest in getting a sport bike. She has little to no experience on 2 wheels, and the most she ever did was learn to start, stop, and do wide turns on a 250cc cruiser. What is the best entry level bike that will satisfy her want for sport styling while also being very forgiving to a new rider. Also she's like 5"1'

>>17717382
A fiancé is a dude, dude.

>>17717382
SV650.

>>17717382
My wife is 5'2 and had a bit of trouble getting her feet down on a ninja 250. I'd start there, and also check out the 390's from KTM.

>>17717395
You know, she could just put one foot down and lean the bike a little. You don't need both feet down.

>>17717395
Thanks for the info. I was thinking ninja 250 as well, but if your wife is not tall enough to flat foot that's a problem. My fiancée probably won't ride anything she can't flat foot. She feels uncomfortable on scooters where the seat height is too tall

>>17717391
That seems like a fairly intermediate level bike

>>17717382
Any Harley.
I'm assuming she already sucks cock so it won't be too hard to adjust.

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>>17717382
zxr400

>>17717382
Find the 250 sportbike with the lowest seat.

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>>17717104
Get a scout niqqa
>>17717116
Naw man.

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>>17716934
I'll put my feet up on my frame sliders from time to time, with my touring screen I'm completely in a bubble of quiet. And it's even comfier since I've got cruise control.

any tips on buying used dirt bikes of craigslist? best price ranges, what to look out for, etc

>>17717404
Everyone is shaped different. Your lady might have slightly longer legs and shorter torso. Gotta check and see on the bike :)

>>17717517
If you're buying an old dirt bike, expect it to break down. Make sure everything works properly. If the suspension is hard as a rock or bounces freely like a pogo stick then it is probably not worth fooling with. If you find things like the brakes are soft then the owner has probably never maintained the bike and rode it into the ground and now wants to get rid of it because it's on its last legs.

If possible, be willing to spend at least $3000 and get something made in the last 10 years. Newer is generally better and there doesn't seem to be that big of a price difference for dirt bikes after the initial depreciation hit.

>>17717516
Have to say, the FJR is starting to look more and more like a bike I'd want.

>>17717082
HJC DS-X1

I went from a Qualifier to it much better.

>>17717557
I'll sell you mine if you aren't too far away, I'm willing to go up to 1000km.

Here's the ad I have up right now:

2006 YAMAHA FJR1300 $7700 OBO,
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sport-touring/winnipeg/2006-yamaha-fjr1300-7700-obo/1288788506

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>>17717563
That could take a while.

>>17717557
same. that, or a connie

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>>17717575
i'd offer to trade you a 2004 vstrom 1000 with 32,000 miles plus my givi case but you'd be getting screwed in the deal lol

>>17717359
zip-ties

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Post chicken strips faggots.
>Tfw no strips on a250 cruiser
>Tfw lean harder than sport bikes

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yay or gay?
According to the owner alot of things have been renewed and there's only 3000km on the clock.

>>17717685
Yay if good price

Nothing a little bit of spray paint and plastidip wont fix

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i feel like a complete retard asking this but here we go

my bike was on workshop bout 1000km ago and they installed new sprockets+chain there

for first time since that i just cleaned the chain, popped the front sprocket cover open and noticed there was a LOT of grease

since the grease was full of sand and dirt i wiped it all off, didnt want that smudge on the chain

are we supposed to grease sliders regularily or something? i never seen grease on chains before

>>17717707

Who used beef jerky as a chain on your bike? That looks so fucking weird.

>>17717715
its not my bike, took greasy pic off google

the grease in guestion was grey and there wasnt any in the chain just in the cover and slider part

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>>17717655
but you clearly have strips faget.
>tfw chunking up the corners of my knobs on the street, but i have to slow down because slowfags in front of me

>>17717718
>>17717707
no, grease usually just flings off and packs up under the sprocket cover like you experienced. You're only supposed to use a very thin coat of chain lube.

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>tfw lost bike key and its gonna be a 60$ round trip in a cab to go to the locksmith

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The luggage rack I modified to fit my Street Bob is working pretty good. Don't really feel like using saddlebags right now and I haven't had time to build a sissybar.

Been on the road quite a lot traveling and theres a few things I already know I want to change. The HD dunlops have got to go.. I need to run a wider front tire. Need to move to mags instead of laced wheels... My windshield is adequate but in prairie crosswinds at 120-130km/hr I am being blown all over the road.

I fear my braking technique is going to get me into some serious trouble someday. As of right now I engine brake while using my front brake lever to turn on my brake light, once engine braking has slowed me down from 5-6th gear I pull clutch and progressively brake with my front. In 2000km I have not touched my rear brake.

Also had an ass puckering moment I was not prepared for.. was riding gravel when all of a sudden I came to a very steep curved hill that was full of large crush, almost went down hard with the ass end trying to wash out.

Any DBT tire recommendations?

>>17717792
im just confused where the fuck did that grey grease come from or why was it added and to what?

>>17717872
Dont ride the hill by beaver river for starters

>>17717868
>not riding an 80s bike
>not just jamming a screwdriver in the ignition

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>>17717868
This is my biggest fear, I have the bad habit of just throwing my key inside my helmet when I'm locking it up/ getting luggage off. So when I pat myself down to check if I'm missing anything, I give myself a small heart attack.

>>17717882
not that guy, but lube fling is normal. it probably looks worse because of all the dirt and shit that you've picked up on the road and it's all collected in the sprocket cover. not sure why they used grease, but it won't hurt the chain. just clean it off and lube it like you normally would

>>17717889
>visiting mum
>rural area
>locked garage
>leave key in ignition because why not
>decide to go for late night ride
>put on all the gear
>pat self down
>house keys, check
>phone, check
>wallet, check
>bike key -- FUCK
>heart attack
>search frantically for 10 minutes
>finally remember where I am
Literally every third weekend or so.

>>17717886

Heading to P. Hill and taking that curve down to the bridge over the north sask when its wet and semis are riding you through the corner and coming in the opposite direction is not something I want to repeat.

The yellowhead is fucking boring though.

>>17717872
don't be afraid of the rear brake, it's pretty useful in corners to stabilize the bike in corners, and practice with it so you can stop faster in emergency situations without locking up.

also, fuck dunlops. michelin is king.

>>17717919

Yeah I figure I better get on getting used to the rear brake. I bought a Heavy Duty front suspension kit from progressive and I have a feeling that its going to change the game for front braking somehow.

Commander IIs from Mich or Scorchers? Those Commanders have very little tread and I ride on quite a bit of gravel with my Harley

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Got a warning last time I posted this

Lets go for the ban desu desu desu

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>>17717953
come on janitors

Its lewd

l-lewd!

>>17717946
any tire is going to be shit in gravel on a cruiser. i had a set of commader 2's on an 800 Marauder and i'd buy them in a heartbeat, no questions asked. their rain traction is godly and the rear tire lasted 15,000 miles, i think.

>>17717953
looks related to me

>>17717359
Zip-tie stitch

Tape the plastics together on the back and then drill holes on each side then loop zip-ties through them.

Cover the front with stickers for extra points

>>17717953
>/o/ mods/janitors doing anything ever

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>>17718065
I got banned once for posting road rash pictures.

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>>17718065
I was surprised too

Gonna step it up a notch here

Sportbike or bobber?... is riding on the road (sitting in traffic) even fun. Sold my dirtbike to pay off some student loans. Don't know if I should get a road bike or just stick to what I know I love and stay in the dirt. Take in mind I don't have a license so I'd have to go through all the trouble of taking the course insurance tagging.... all that fun stuff.

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>>17717953
>>17717965
>>17718076
>Retarded looking no-nose humanoids
>lewd

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>>17718093
>riding on the road (sitting in traffic)
No. Avoid traffic. Go ride backroads where you can have fun without even encountering traffic.

Also get a dual sport and ride on and off road.

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How's it going fags?
Shib here, still touring with spent tyre and driveline, plus i'm 600km from the next service and the dash keeps reminding me

Met the niggest nig, was so black i thought he had gear on

>>17717207
Maintenance intervals, tank range, comfort

Sumos are toy bikes.

>>17717359
JB weld dog. Don't fall for the ABS cement meme. You need solid pieces of pure, strong ABS ground down to thicken it or it's pure liquid and dries to something simultaneously rubbery and brittle.

>>17717655
>rear drum

Which bike? Probably a UJM pocket cruiser, right?

Those legitimately handle as well as normal UJMs, especially if you start raising pegs and pipes.

>>17718104
I live in South Florida near the coast. There aren't very good back roads for riding. I had a 2011 husqvarna te250 but didn't want to go through the trouble of tagging a 250 and it didn't have enough hit for me being that it's an enduro bike. But I think you helped me realize that I really just rather stick to full off road riding thanks man.

>>17718182
buy liter peter
go fast, really fast, until you exit florida
now enjoy riding

>>17717359
Plastic welders work nicely and with a variety of plastics including ABS.

>>17717868
Get it copied and keep a copy inside your wallet.

>>17718189
Genius! The twisties in the tennessee mountains are where I'm heading. I can live on squirrel meat and build a hut induh woods. Just me and my wilderness biku.

>>17718238
Better than living in Florida.

is drunk driving on a motorcycle just as easy as it is on a car

>>17718251
no

>>17718251
you will fall over in your driveway. once your friends help you pick up your bike you will rev to 10k and dump the clutch. seen it happen.

>>17718251
kys

>>17717872
>I fear my braking technique is going to get me into some serious trouble someday.

Then stop fucking doing it because it's stupid. You have no reason to do it except being silly. Engine braking only made sense up to the end of the front drum brake era as a supplement to the utter garbage brakes of the time.

The stock Dunlops wear fine but if you replace them get something with equally reasonable tread since you don't always travel on cleanly paved roads.

A wider 19" tire that fits your forks won't change your contact patch much at all. Ancient Harleys ran 16" front tires because they work on shitty roads. They became a styling thing later.

Customer takeoff mags are easy to find. Ask your dealer and independent shops and check Craigslist.

http://www.v-twinforum.com is a good place to find conversion info if you want to go wide up front.

If swapping wheels I suggest installing dual front discs while you are at it. Harleys aren't getting any lighter. Braided stainless lines are inexpensive and improve brake feel dramatically.

>>17718251
Last time I drunk drove my motorcycle on a car I ended up in the hells angles.... So it's not hard... but not good either.

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>>17717557
>>17717563
>>17717591
how do you guys feel about VFR?

>>17718250
Yea Florida pretty much sucks ass. Better than the trailer park of Indiana I was living in though..... I think

>>17717946
>I bought a Heavy Duty front suspension kit from progressive and I have a feeling that its going to change the game for front braking somehow.

So would applying proper braking and practicing aggressive braking and controlling rear wheel skids.

Riding isn't practice. Practice is practice. Harleys have a low CG and can be flung about with considerable vigor.

>>17717872

why the fuck would you be scared of the rear brake? Lock it up all you like, its way less a problem than having the front wheel slip due to gravel or some shit.

>>17718284
Heavy and a lumpy running pig at low speeds. Also about as comfortable as a CBR with bar risers.

But torks

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I've never ridden a real motorbike, just 50cc scooters, so I'm wondering, is there such a thing as a beginner's adventure bike, or should I go for something small and light as a first bike till I get the hand of it.

>>17718304
After riding 50cc scooters you're past the beginner bike stage

Beginner bikes are just to ensure you understand the basic principles of 2 wheeled vehicles before dying. If you don't live in a nanny welfare state where the government considers you a public asset and prevents you from taking risks, you can skip the beginner bike meme entirely.

>>17718304
Yes, 650GS, Wee strom, Tenere if you're yuro, and if you want to buy new there's a vstrom 300 and a 300GS, but I wouldn't bother with those.

>>17718304
do you have parkinson disease? if no then just get any bike

ppl who tell you to get some shit bike are the ones who lack fine motor skills on their hands

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>>17718304
>>17718318
Those and Cb500x, KLRs, KLE500, and any >400cc dual sport

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>>17718343
>KLE 500
This.
Just dont crash it into a tree and you'll be golden

>>17718324
They're the ones that never took basic fucking advice

>keep your wrist in line with your below the throttle grip so you don't whisky throttle
>shift your ass over to reduce lean angle and maximize traction
>throttle through corners, gently, to maintain speed against the cornering forces that naturally slow you down, not to accelerate.
>brake progressively with two fingers so you don't crash and die
>smoothly let the clutch out on downshifts so you don't lock the rear wheel if you don't have a slipper
>FUCK THAT
>IM NOT FUCKIN ROSSI GET YOU RACETRACK SHIT OUTTA HERE, AND ISN'T THAT BAD FOR THE CLUTCH? VROOM VROOOM ME RIDE MOTORCYCLE VERY FAST,

>>17718309
I am in a nanny state, but I'm old enough to get a licence for any kind of bike.
I only have one for a car and scooter currently, but I could get one fairly quickly, it's not that big a deal.

>>17718318
I'll be buying used, I was looking at something like the Kawasaki KLR 650.
I'll have to buy a new (used) car this month and this will drain my budget for this year, so I'm only asking out of curiosity right now.

>>17718324
I'm more worried about the weight and weight distribution, centre of gravity etc, I'm guessing it's a lot more demanding than cycling (which is my hobby, so I should have good balance on two wheels, hopefully).

>>17718355
PS: the comma is there because the hypothetical greentext man crashed and died

>>17718358
They're all pretty heavy and easy to tip over. Adv bikes are shit.

Get a WR450.

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>>17718151
>nigs
>gear
LMAO
Have fun m8 don't die.
Rode through Berlin like a hooligan, was fun.

>>17718304
GS 500 is the best beginner adventure bike.

>>17718065
I posted a pic of my ass crack with a spoon hanging out of it as a reply to post boipuccy. Never heard a fucking peep.

>>17718372
>downpipes not ran down the side with makeshift heat shields
>not even a bashplate

lmao

20th century scrambler builders are laughing their asses off right now.

>>17718355
those are basic things they teach you in driving school when you get even 50cc license let alone license for bigger bikes

amazing how in some countries people really need to watch youtube to learn basics

>>17718167
>Don't fall for the ABS cement meme.
God dammit anon, don't ever use the letters ABS around here, It's like a beacon to edgelord street Rossi

>>17718388
Amazing that people still disagree with any of that

Some guy spent four threads arguing against throttling through corners and calling it a racetrack technique because his harley did fine on dry pavement even coasting with the clutch in

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Holy fuck, new ninja 400 revealed by accident.
But that huge exhaust tho, probably because of that euro 4 that castrate motorcycles, that why they had to make it 400cc as well.

>>17718399
But I'm wating for the Z400, I wish they both will be released in the same time

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Looking for a new helmet just to douche around in. I'm on black bike what helmet is going to make me look like a real dick. I'm thinking this one

>>17718284
It's a fat and slightly more comfortable sportbike. Also it has that amazing v4 sound. But I wouldn't get it for touring, maybe just some longer day rides than you might do on a full on sportbike

>>17718399
>400s are making a comeback but they're all going to be I2 budget shitbikes
>honda still won't export the CB400 and CB1300

>>17718389
>hurr ABS is bad!
>hurr electric vehicles are bad!
>hurr young people are getting worse by generation!
>hurr carbs are the best!
>hurr led lights are bad and get people killed!
>hurr traction controls are bad!
>hurr disk brakes are bad! drums are better!

fucking old people lol

>>17717397
I worked at a Harley dealer and tried to explain this to people there.

They stared at me like i was insane.

They also like to paddle their feet when moving a slow speeds.

>>17718414
Electric vehicles are pretty bad though
>go anywhere, do anything!
>within 200 miles of a charging station.

Also the current power grid isn't really set up for them becoming anything but niche, unless we forbid home charging/make it prohibitively expensive and run in new infrastructure just for charging stations.

We should put our money towards perfecting ICE until it only farts out minute amounts of carbon dioxide and water, and then convert that to run on ethanol or methanol because we can make it from plants, sewage, or literally from thin air

>>17718416
>They also like to paddle their feet when moving a slow speeds.
disgusting, I make an effort to go as slow as possible without putting a foot down, then try not to lift it till I take off again.

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>>17718406
Get that plus a roman style mohawk

>>17718414
>Goes into a dark bathroom, stares in the mirror and repeat the chant.

OH FUCK he's coming now.

>>17718355
>shift your ass over to reduce lean angle
I've never understood this one, can someone explain? Surely the lean angle required to make it through a corner depends on:
1) Your speed
2) The sharpness of the bend

To sufficiently meet these two factors, you steer your bike and lean it over the appropriate amount to make it around. Given the exact same conditions (speed & sharpness), over and over again, the lean angle will always be the same, will it not? How does hanging your ass off the seat dictate lesser lean angles to make the same bend?

>>17718409
I know right?

I want small high tech bikes, like the shit we didn't get in the 90's here in America. Instead its overweight, underpowered budget shit for noobs, not people who know wtf they are doing and just appreciate a smaller machine.

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>>17718406
get reflective stripes so you look craazay at night

>>17718447
3) your bike's center of gravity.

You are included in 3

This is also why some bikes seem eager to get sideways but others stay nearly upright for the same corner

>>17718447
It changes where the weight is centered over the bike.

The location of the weight ( center ) is what the lean is determined from. If you can change it by shifting your ass ( and body ) over you can lessen the amount of lean for a given speed/radius.

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>>17718430
You are a moron.
Electric bikes arent meant for touring
Electric bikes are made for city riding (short distance) where fuel efficiency is lowest.
All current electric bikes use a standard plug and do not require extra equipment to charge
Cars are a different matter, and for good reason.
Stop talking out your ass

>>17718414
Nice strawman. Here's the truth:
- ABS is bad
- electric bikes are shit but will be fun eventually, electric cars are shit
- young people have always been degenerates
- carbs are shit
- LEDs are good
- TC is good but you should be able to turn it off if you want to
- disk brakes are objectively superior

>>17718480
>i-im not old fart
>i swear abs is b-bad!

lol whatever, old man, keep living in the past :D

>>17718478
Electric bikes are toys until we discover a new battery that actually works well enough or significantly improve motor efficiency

Limiting yourself is not cool. Why don't you buy a thinkpad and install BSD if you only post on 4chan? Shit, you need to do something else? Buy a new computer, running windows this time.

>using a standard plug reduces demand on the grid
No, it increases it because a charging station can have a heavy duty line and your garage outlet was never meant to power anything bigger than a couple minifridges and some lightbulbs during off-peak hours

>>17718355
>>17718447
>>17718470
reminder too much lean isn't what makes you slide out. its too much centripetal force. the centripetal force is the same whether you lean off or not

>>17718500
All bikes are toys
The batteries work very well for their intended purpose
Limited to what?
>he thinks a standard plug cant handle charging some 18650s
Wew

>>17718500
all motorcycles are toys

more news at 11

>>17718497
Pray tell, how hold are you? I'm 25, as you can tell by my level-headed opinions and not being a crotchety old fuck who runs on nostalgia and hates new things.
It's just that ABS is objectively shit. It teaches riders to grab a fistful of front brake, which is fine and dandy as long as your bike has ABS, but will fuck you up once you ride one without it. It's like learning to drive autotragic, except that you'll go nowhere in a manual car if you don't know how to drive it, instead of going fast and then wrapping yourself around a tree.
Reminder than if ABS saves you from crashing, your riding is shit anyway and the crash could have been prevented by good braking skills in any case.

>>17718514
>>17718515
>all bikes are toys

No, they're bikes. They're only toys if you're a bootlicking americuck and don't filter or park on the sidewalk and buy into the "you need $1500 in luggage gear to carry groceries" meme.

>>17718500
2bh I'm pretty hyped for electric roadsters. All bikes are toys, except the boringest of boring commuters, and they get BTFO by electric bikes.

>>17718519
i cba to read all that

stop sperging, old fart

>>17718523
if you can't bring home a 90" flatscreen from costco with it and take your five kids with you, it's a toy.

>>17718529
14 year old ADHD kid confirmed
Take your meds, then it's bedtime. Wouldn't want to miss school tomorrow unless you like daddy's beatings :^)

>>17718530
my truck can only sit 2 (3 if you're desperate)
is it a toy?

>>17718433
I see it ALL OF THE TIME.
The black riding groups have their own quirks. They are the ones that i see with the stretched and slammed sport bikes, while wearing the mohawk helmets, leather vests w/ patches. When they come to a stop, they constantly rev the bike and paddle their feet. Then, until they hit about 10 mph, raise their feet off of the ground and leave them hanging off the bike for another 5 seconds.

Its bizarre. Especially on a Harley, there is no excuse. One guy even told me that Sportsters (for whatever bs reason he explained) are really hard to balance at low speeds. I have no trouble balancing my sportster until the wheels stop turning. I think motorcyclists around here just really suck at riding.

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>>17718362
> they're all pretty heavy and easy to tip over
421 lbs dry
what did he mean by this?

>>17718538
yes

a toy for rednecks

buy a crossover, a real practical vehicle, and stop flaunting your wealth and immaturity like a faggot or i'll key your shit.

>hurr i dont have a wife and 5 kids and if i do i have lots of money left over look at me t. impracticalvehiclefags

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Nobike here (donut bully) is it a bad idea to buy a dualsport/dirtbike for your first bike? I commute on asphalt but only for about 2-4 miles.

I live in West Texas, so I assume there's lots of decent off road trails round here in the desert

>>17718530
You mean my wife's cream-colored kids from 4 different fathers?
t. Kawacucki rider

>>17718537
FUCK ABS REEEEEE

lol

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I'm 19 and i love sliding the rear about
If anything It's old farts who crave all sorts of rider aids

Contemplating calling in sick to work today and just cruisin. Anyone else do that?

>>17718519
ABS doesn't keep you from learning how to brake properly

>>17718547
Dirt bikes are great for short distance.
I ride mine long distance too. Just never on the freeway

>>17718547
Nah it's a good idea honestly. Be wary of the high-strung 2strokes, you want something with a small engine. Shouldn't need more than 250 for the start, 125 might even be enough on the trails for a start.

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>>17718552
pic

>>17718555
>being fat doesn't keep you from running marathons
This is how stupid you sound.

>>17718558
Well id like to do some semi long distance riding since I can hit the forests of NM which are about ~3h to the north of me. I'm fine with avoiding the freeway for now, but the speed limit on the US 54 is like 75

>>17718560
Any recommendations for something street legal? Am poorfag with a budget of about $2-3k

>>17718570
Sorry, I am not into offroad bikes and not an American so I don't know the market at all.

>>17718546
Those are the most useless looking bags in the world

The only practical soft bag is a backpack strapped to a tail rack or stuck to the thank somehow, something you can take with you easily.

The current trends in motorcycle luggage really speak volumes about what people are actually using their bikes for. Posing while taking day rides around popular roads.

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>>17718547
Well, you posted my favourite mango so i can tell you it's a wonderful idea
Get a klr650, you could throw it into a volcano and it would come out fine

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>>17718577
Say that to my faceshield on the touge not online, see what happens

>>17718570
WR250R or X
WR450 can be street legal in texas
CRF250L make sure its the L model
They can all cruise at 55 easy. My WR450 tops out at 100mph but i still think it revs too high at 65mph.
450 obviously the fastest
Wr250 second
CRF slowest
But all fine bikes

DO NOT buy a KLR. Its shit on and off road.
XR650 is better or DR650 if you are looking for big bore bikes

>>17718581
>has science gone too far

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>>17718544
>posting in dbt about impracticalvehiclefags
whatever helps you not kys anon

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>fell for the carb meme
>drain tank by myself and disassemble petcock and brush everything and replace
>re-attach it to bike and fill tank halfway or so
>go for a test-ride, bike runs better and idles better
>get back and there's gas dripping out the screws to the tank
RRRRREEEEE
>remove seat, remove tank, drain tank AGAIN, remove petcock and put in some fat rubber o-rings on it
>doesn't leak now, but one of my carbs now is leaking fresh gas around the air filter and bottom of carb
>sit on the bike with the center stand and rock back on the rear wheel
>splashing sound, look under bike and puddle of gas
RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

don't ever fucking get a carbed bike, kiddies

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>>17718588
>ROSSI HATES HIM
>this broke ass nigga is hauling 50 kgs of luggage around and basically you're a slow cunt

>>17718587
>can be street legal
>can be
Does it need to have signals & mirrors added on or is it already good to go?

>>17718593
Fuel injected bikes can leak too.
Moron
>>17718598
As far as im aware
Headlight, tail light, horn, speedo, and a single mirror. Then youre legal.
The WR450 comes with all the correct wiring. It just has to be hooked up. You will need brake switches (like $15) and a mirror (like $15).
The speedo is $80

Done and done

>>17718449
But I want (and a lot of people) cheap motorcycle, if they will be high tech they will cost more.
Motorcycle are expensive where I live so I can't afford 600+ high tech bike and a lot of people from developing countries can't either.
Also motorcycle in general are expensive

>>17718606
Motorcycles are cheap, compared to cars.
They get cheaper as they are manufactured en masse, which is easy to do for electric engines.

>>17718598
Don't listen to him, look for KLR,DR,XR AND XL650 they are heavier, but will do infinitely better on the highway
In dirtbikes you should swap down to lighter, nimbler bikes only If you have a trailer and ride really difficult trails

>>17718606
I want a high tech ultralight motorcycle for tight tracks and twisty roads

Everyone else in the market wants a big one for showing off.

>"i hang wit da big boyz ya know, no liter no peter"

>>17718284
I've had an uncontrollable hard-on for over two months since I heard a VFR750F with a Delkevic exhaust. Apparently it is contagious, the same thing happened to my doc when I played the video on my phone.

>>17718284
Go for older ones, and if you want to keep it for more than 20k kms avoid VTAK YO like the plague

>>17718619
except liters are nicer to ride in every way

>>17718284
Shit meme bikes bought for the V4 sound and then owners cry when they have to take it for valve inspections

There are far better sports tourers

>>17718637
>only make power at high rpm
Thats not nice to ride

>>17718606
There are dozens of not hundreds of small, cheap bikes currently available in every market. Name one 3+ cylinder bike under 500ccs with all the bells and whistles you get on a 600 or 1000 supersport.

>>17718641
Confirmed for never having ridden a liter

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>>17717655
Does my '82 CM250C finally have a friend?

Where can I buy some saddle bags for my ninja 250?

>>17718648
I've ridden several.
They aren't comfy and don't do traffic well.
Plus you almost never use the full rev range or power the bike makes.
Literally pointless on the street

>>17718637
Only if you're not a sperg about high revs

>help, my engine is running! it bothers me!

>>17718641
>only

thats not how it works with a 170hp+ bike

>>17718664
There are more upright liters, you don't have to get one with full on sport ergos
Mines quite happy plodding around at 2k rpm, and there's always power on tap when you want or need it.

When I see someone racing on a dual sport or dirt bike they always put their foot out, are they actually skidding the ground with their foot and using it? or is it just put out to change the center of gravity?

>>17718673
So you're using maybe 20hp at 2krpm
The other 150hp is useless.
I doubt you take it to redline every shift.
So tons of useless power again.
I doubt you even shift past 7k often enough to matter.
So maybe 70hp is being used.

Maybe just buy a 70hp bike?

>>17718678
Streetbikes have enough power that traction is their limiting factor
Dirtbikes have so little traction that power is their limiting factor

>>17718681
I redline mine and i only have 90hp

>>17718681
A 70HP bike has no torque at 2k RPM unless it's a heavy piece of shit stroked-out cruiser with no power and guaranteed engine damage past like 5k RPM.

It's also not useless because, guess what faggot, you can actually go faster than the speed limit. Or do a track day if you're a pussy.

Liter nakeds are about the most relaxed bikes to ride on earth. It's like a harley except you can go fast if you want to.

>>17718681
>you can only have fun if you're red lining in the city
What a dumb argument
Being limited by upper end power does not make riding more enjoyable it makes it less so

>>17718692
This

>>17718692
Most twins have more torque at 2k than most 4cyls
Go look at a dyno sheet

>>17718685
So, is their foot literally sliding on the ground or not?

>>17718697
And they also have lower redlines and less power up top.

A liter 4cyl has "more than enough" torque down low by merit of having more power everywhere.

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>>17718697
So ride a liter twin, problem solved.

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>>17718704
>tfw no gt

>>17718703
Lower redline is nice. Since you would rarely redline a liter anyway.
And since you rarely redline it, you dont need that extra power up top.

>>17718712
>you don't need that extra power

I need it for when I redline it.

>>17718681
>Maybe just buy a 70hp bike?
Then again you gonna have the same hp problem.

>/dbt/ american hours
>how is having a slower bike nice?
>uh, so you can ride more aggressively without highsiding until you git gud i guess
>/dbt/ euro hours
>how is having a slower bike nice?
>YOU DONT NEED POWER, HP AND DISPLACEMENT RESTRICTIONS ARE GOOD, I LOVE LEARNER LAWS, YOU'LL NEVER GO FAST ANYWAYS HAHA SPEED CAMERAS

I though euros actually had a dearth of racetracks with cheap admission

>>17718715
Bullshit
1st gear will do 70+mph on most liters.
Where you gonna do that without breaking the law that would be reasonable on the street?
Even then youre only redlining in ONE gear. 2nd will do 120+.
Be realistic moron
>>17718718
No

>>17718723
>dearth

*abundance

Dearth is an odd word. It sounds like it should mean more of something, but then you remember it doesn't.

>>17718724
Autobahn
Track
B roads where no cops ever go

>>17718723
He's just a retard nobike Aussie who bought a postie and now he's salty because other people have fun on fast bikes.

>>17718614
>Motorcycles are cheap, compared to cars
Do you live in the great nation of backwardistan?

In the shithole of which I abode, a 10 year old bike will still hold it's value well and be like 3-6k. A 10 year old car you can pick up for pennies. Fuck, even 3-5 year old bikes aren't much of a discount off a new one whereas a car depreciates like mad. In 2 years, my car has lost half it's value.

Then when you factor in gear, I'm not sure how bikes work out cheaper.

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>>17718724
>beaking the law
>being unreasonable
>track days
>being unreasonable at track days
>it's fun.

what the fuck do you think grandpa

go ride your scooter

>>17718735
Cuz we all live in europe
Track is great for sport bikes
B roads are still 1. Illegal 2. Have hazards like animals or are poorly maintained 3. Are for niggers
>>17718742
>reading comprehension

>>17718741
Then why do all the chinks ride bikes and scooters?

>>17718746
OK have fun with your 125 scooter """bike""" and don't forget to gobble that police cock when you see them.
>boo hoo I'm too scared to go fast

>>17718746
>Track is great for sport bikes
Track is great for all bikes, even slow little 70 hp naked shitbikes and liter nakeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0zc3Xfcv4s

>>17718753
Childish reply as usual on /dbt/ when losing an argument
>>17718764
True.

>>17718746
Why do you think I care about whether or not I am breaking the speed limit

Why do you think I care about hazards and risks

I very clearly >implied that the whole point is breaking the law and doing unreasonable things. Do you only lick the sheriff's boots or do you suck his dick too?

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So I want to buy a zx-14r but I don't have any experience riding. What kind of bike should I buy to enable a seem less transition from it to the zx-14r?

>>17718747
Cuz they're all riding cheap chink shit with minimal or no gear. Bikes ARE cheaper to run in terms of fuel, tax, maintenance etc. I wouldn't say they're cheaper to buy initially. SO i guess it's higher outlay vs. cheaper long term running costs.

>>17718776
VFR800 (no vtak)

>>17718770
>Childish nigger criminal
>wonders why sport bike riders are hated

>>17718776
ZX-9R

>>17718784
>nigger
Oh, I see. You're one of those nu-white /pol/ retards who worships the law just because it puts some distance between him and a black guy.

I also never said that I did it in traffic.

The laws are meant for peak hours traffic, not empty highways or deserted backroads. And nobody cares if you die at a track or at a canyon. You'll still be dead.

>>17718764
Im considering bringing my Sportster to track day. Could be lots of fun.

>>17718776
ninja 650 but just buy whatever the fuck you want man.
If you aren't retarded a ninja 250 should really only be bought if you live in the middle of twisties, are poor or enjoy shifting a lot.

This is coming from a dude who started on a ninja 250 for two years.

>>17718790
>anti social behavior
Enjoy jail criminal

>>17718791
Post webms of getting passed by 9 year olds on a 50cc babbys first race bike

>>17718639
would you suggest FJR as an alternative?

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>>17718541

Harleyfag here from earlier. This is my first riding season (lol Canada) and my first bike is my FXDB, I still walk my bike while taking off and put my feet down quite a bit early but I'm working on it.

One habit I have GOT to break before it breaks me is putting a foot down in a slow speed turn. My boots have some pretty nasty wear already. Doing a 90 degree slow turn in say a parking lot or a residential corner at sub 20km/hr speeds I kick with the leg thats on the inside of the turn like a complete moron as if I'm riding a dirt bike almost.. I tried taking the MSF course but the only place that offers it is the HD dealership and they use Street 500s which I do not fit on, at 6'4" with a 34" inseam the controls being high and mid makes the bike unrideable.

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>>17718791
Can't hurt to try, go for it. You'll definitely earn points for not riding a sports bike, especially if you can actually keep pace. That last point might be a bit difficult on a cruiser though.
I got like 3 people coming over asking me how the fuck I was able to keep up with liters on a 20 year old shitbike (which was restricted, to boot). Well, the liter riders were inexperienced and I didn't care about the risk of lowsiding as much as they did. Pretty fun being known as the group madman.

>>17718798
Man is man, not a god, so he can only punish you if he catches you. All government more or less functions like organized crime. It is funded with protection money that may or may not be used for something that actually benefits you and it enforces its arbitrary will via armed thugs that barely understand the will they are enforcing and are mostly in it for an excuse to act out and feel powerful.

And those enforcers are more than willing to make exceptions or not bother.

You can't complain once they catch you but you're also more of a pussy than a virtuous asshole for treating them like holy angels who see all and will put in a word with the big man to send you to hell.

>>17718828
Fuck off scumbag
Justifications DO NOT make you right.
Try that shit in court and see where it lands you.
Filthy irresponsible degenerate .

>>17718630
any reason why you would avoid VTEC? would you say it gets worse with age?

>>17718837
Yeah, insult the head of the family and see where that lands you at a mob tribunal. Same thing.

They're not gods and they don't matter if they don't catch you or see you

>>17718809
Definitely

>>17718841
You need to be familiar with and prepared for VTEC. If you aren't, having the huge change in power level during a corner or what not can be very bad.

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>>17718519
I told you guys not to summon the edgelord but nooooooo.

Now street Rossi is going to go on and on about how he's better at threshold braking than ABS in any condition and surface and you are a pathetic waste of space on his planet if your bike has ABS.

Is what he is really worried about is some young wanna be street Rossi is going to figure out that he can out brake our king every fucking time because he was smart enough to buy a bike with ABS. So lets take a few moments and reflect on the feels the king is having about not being the last of the late brakers anymore because he want's to apply rules to being king street Rossi in his area.

BTW I'm 50 and ABS is wonderful safety device/tool on modern bikes. Do I NEED it to go have fun, nope but if I bike has it available I was looking at purchasing I'd chose the one with ABS. I actually purchased a 1190r rather than the new 1090r because they took stuff off the electronics suite.

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>>17718678
Its generally just to balance yourself and get more weight up on the front wheel. Some people actually drag their feet, mainly in flat track and supermoto. On dirt I think they generally keep it off the ground.

>>17718547
You're in Texas, plate a a wr450 and be a happy camper.

>>17718567
Except he's rught and you're retarded. Here have another (you) for your autism jar

>>17718861
it's not that bad

the valve checks are bad.

>veetek VFR owner rulebook:
>Remember, if someone puts risers on their actual sportbike they just don't understand the torque
>It doesn't run hot, it keeps your ass warm.
>It is not heavy, it is well composed on the highway.
>The styling is not ugly at all what are you talking about I find it very refined
>Muh V4 sound is reason enough
>No valve checks ever.

>>17718865
What are you doing on 4chins grandpa?

>>17718570
You want two different bikes my young nobike.

Local stuff around town and desert fun, plated dirtbike.

3 hr run to go camping/exploring, ADV bike.

holy shit bros we got absolutely btfo...

https://rideapart.com/articles/date-a-motorcyclist

>>17718865
>not knowing that you need to limit yourself to learn
>not knowing that learning with your own willpower is impossible

You need a slow bike to learn to carry speed through corners
You need the threat of death looming over your head to brake properly
You need a raw liter with no electronics to learn to exit a corner
etc

>>17718908
>dating roasties

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>>17718918

>>17718908
Incredibly stupid and a waste of time

>>17718678
If they are doing it correctly it's to put more weight on the front tire. Leg should be WAY forward not just out to the side like flatrack.

>>17718917
>meanwhile 4 year-olds can somehow manage to learn all of this on mini-bikes

Really makes you think

>>17718930
this

>>17718889
is V4 valve check much worse than the typical I4 valve check?

>>17718974
V engine valve check has more valves and an extra head

VTEC valve check requires the cames to come out several times to check the additional lifters

Put them together

>>17718818
Shit I'm 6'4" with a 38" inseam and did the MSF course with my wife as moral support on a XT225. I've had my M endorsement for 32 years. Just go do it.

>>17718974
Anything that's not inline will have multiple camshafts, Honda fucked it up majorly by making the rear cylinders only accessible by dismantling half the bike or straight up dropping the block, plus VTAK YO has additional fuckery for the Variable part of the acronym, as in concentrical shafts and hydraulic magic

>>17718902
Oldfag shitposting ( and the occasional informational post ), have you seen what /b/ has become. It can't be unseen.

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>>17716930
I wanna get a crf250L next year for my first road legal bike.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE the local track (the nearest track within 200 km) was bought by a technical safety association. They want to turn it into a closed test track for interconnected automated driving systems in everyday scenarios.
FUCKING
FUCKKKKKKKK

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>>17718981

I bowed myself out of the course the first day, I did give it a shot. My street bob I can ride fine and dandy but there was just no controlling the Street 500 for me. The instructors were great and knew me from around the area and know I've been riding and agreed that it just wasn't feasible to keep going.

Few things about the Street 500's the HD dealerships use for the course made it suck HARD. You have to twist the throttle about 25% to get any appreciable RPM for a 1st gear takeoff, the clutch engagement is.. long and the things setup completely different than the bike I taught myself on..I wish they would have agreed to let me use my bike instead but that was not an option.

They also teach things like modulating speed using the clutch which for me is completely fucking bizarre and backwards. I understand its a wet clutch but causing premature wear seems stupid.

>>17719037
Volunteer to race their driving systems under the guise of helping them improve their algorithms.

>>17719015
Why

>>17719050
But I want to ride my 20 year old shitbike there. Plus they're going to turn it into a solid 1 sq km piece of tarmac and get rid of all the corners.

>>17719053
because I want a duel sport that I can fuck off with off road. I use to have a crf250r that was pretty fun but I would have to avoid cops on the road, luckly never saw any riding it but if I did I'd have to book it

>>17719054
Firebomb, it's the only way.

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>>17718979
>>17719002
Ah I see. I originally wanted to look into something like 1985 vf500 and heard a similar critique that the engine was very difficult for maintenance. Still the VFR price tag and claimed reliability by the legion of fans is attractive IMO.

>>17719049
>They also teach things like modulating speed using the clutch which for me is completely fucking bizarre and backwards. I understand its a wet clutch but causing premature wear seems stupid.

You definitely need to take the course and listen and apply what they are saying. That right there is a fucking key skill to proficient riding.

It would be hard to keep count of the times in a day of riding where that skill is used by me.

>>17719049
>They also teach things like modulating speed using the clutch which for me is completely fucking bizarre and backwards. I understand its a wet clutch but causing premature wear seems stupid.
How else do you move at under idle speeds? Do you really not know how to ride the clutch to keep moving at super low speeds?

>>17719096

It's not happening on a Street 500. I put floorboards and forwards on my dyna because theres no way I could even use mid controls on that. If it requires my ankle to bend past what would be normally a flat foot position I cannot do it. I've had both achilles tendons repaired a few times as well as having torn my anterior and posterior talofibular ligaments enough times that yeah, I don't bend that way.

Is what it is.

>>17719153
Your ankle has nothing to do with clutch control anon.

>>17719121

Like in a parking lot? I pull my clutch or re-engage my clutch as needed. It's just how I taught myself.. either idle or coast on what idle gave you and re-engage as necessary. It's how I've been riding all summer. I described the Street 500 as having a "long" feel to it. On my dyna my clutch lever is nearly all the way out before I enter the friction zone and nearly fully engaged by that point if that makes sense.

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>>17719153
>ankle
>clutch control

>>17719166

You need to be able to put your feet on the pegs to be able to ride fellow anon. I cannot shift a Street 500. The controls are not positioned in a way where I can ride one safely.

I've never locked me front wheel without ABS, but I've triggered ABS plenty of times. From this I conclude that it activates way earlier than the point at which traction is lost.

>>17719176
>>17719166
He probably has some retarded hipster control configuration like suicide shifter and right foot clutch
>>17719173
You are the shittiest nobike yet

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>>17719176
See
>>17719186

I can use the clutch til the cows come home on a Street 500 with my feet on the ground but my feet cannot be put on the pegs.. If the thing had forwards perhaps.

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>>17719189

Except I'm not a nobike? I'm harleyfag.. The guy who taught himself how to ride on gravel roads in spring then progressed to riding all over Canada?

I don't fit on a fucking Street 500.. have any of you actually been on one at 6'4"? They're horrid fucking bikes.

>>17719201
I'm so confused, what does your ankle position or forward controls have to do with the clutch? You pull in the clutch with your hand?

>>17719065
So get a WR250R

>>17719217
Do your legs not bend?

>>17719153
You spend the whole class in first or second, there is hardly any shifting required. Your hand will learn the skills you need.

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>>17719235

It has nothing to do with it at all. I was trying to communicate that I don't fit on a Street 500 because I cannot use the foot pegs so the MSF course in my area wasn't an option. I was not allowed to use my Street Bob which would have been feasible.

I've rode all over western Canada this year teaching myself, starting on gravel roads and progressing to riding the Yellowhead.. I was just making a comment that slipping the clutch to modulate speed seems counter intuitive to me is all.

>>17719166
90% of class is spent barely above walking speed learning how to use the clutch properly. Explain to the instructors your concerns/issues with your ankles ( and I feel ya, I have shit knees ).

>>17719217
Your bike is my ideal bike. Love floorboards but don't like the 2 way shifter. Came so close to buying a 2016 street bob last year. My dream bike. Feels so comfortable being higher and have leg room. I never did and ended up buying a 2008 vulcan mean streak for $4200, though.

>>17719015
>>17719065
The 250L will feel terribly slow and heavy compared to the CRF250R. They're completely different bikes. The CRF250L is pretty much the worst bike in its class. I'd recommend the WR250R, DRZ400S, KLX250S, XR650L, and DR650 but not the CRF250L.

>>17719244
maybe im not dead set on what bike I'm gonna get but it's gonna be a 250 duel sport

>>17719270
You're the reason rekluse does Harley partnerships
Do you like, launch and then coast with the clutch in if you have to navigate a parking zone?

>>17719173
>On my dyna my clutch lever is nearly all the way out before I enter the friction zone and nearly fully engaged by that point if that makes sense.

Sounds about right for a HD, my first street bike was a 73 xlch , there is still a friction " zone ". You just don't have the skills yet, you can develop them and it'll make you a better rider. It's worth the effort to learn it.

>>17719270
Then why did you start talking about your ankle when people were pointing out you have a small child's level of clutch control?

>>17719263

Legs bend, ankles do not. Multiple achilles tendon repairs and such.. I elaborated earlier. This is why I pulled off my mids and swapped to forward controls on my dyna so I could actually shift and such. I don't actuate my ankle to move my shift lever instead I pull my leg up. Due to how stiff those joints are due to many years of ligament tears, achilles tendon ruptures etc this works for me. Doing such a thing on a Street 500 with high mids (relatively) is impossible hence why I bowed out the first day of class and went back to riding on my own.

This last weekend alone I did around 1000km. I know there's things I need to work on for sure but I've been able to handle my Harley in stop and go in places like Saskatoon, to gravel backroads of Northern Saskatchewan, to flying down the Yellowhead taking grasshoppers to the face...

>>17719188
>ABS measures wheel speed 200 times a second.

Maybe you lost traction momentarily and you just didn't notice it.

>>17719308
Surely if you explain your needs they will just let you bring your own bike?

>>17718865
Oh my god I'm not the oldest person on 4chan.

>>17719286

Basically yeah. The "friction zone" on my dyna is extremely, extremely tight.

>>17719303

For fucks sakes anon.

>>17719325
But it's a dyna that probably won't require any throttle actuation for entire MSF class duration.

>>17719280
The CRF is better than the KLX, but not by much.

Wife owned a KLX and I've rode a few friends CRFs

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>>17719325

Nope. I did receive a refund though which they were more than okay with doing even knowing they lost out on a class spot. Like I said the instructors were locals and they know me from the bike riding community and the dealership since I buy parts there for the bikes I build and bought my dyna from em...

This was how I originally had my forwards but found riding to become painful in a hurry due to ankle position so I swapped the forward pegs for floorboards and adjusted my shift lever to be just above my boot. A quick pull of my leg and it shifts. No need to try to move my ankle.

When is Suzuki going to discontinue or update DRZ400 and DR650?

>>17719283
The WR 250f is the cream of the " not much maintenance " crop.

KTM has a street legal 250exc now ( new ) and Husqvarna had the TE250 if you are looking used, both have heaps better performance than the WR if you don't mind the maintenance.

>>17719369
I hope suzuki falls off the face of the planet.
They are absolute trash and always have been.

>>17719376
Why?

>>17719342

This is correct. Where as the nerfed 500's required a nearly 25% twist of the throttle to not stall under load my dyna with its stock 96TC (besides air cleaner, tune and slipons) will happily take off and maintain a very a low speed without need to apply any throttle but what the idle air valve is supplying.

In stop and go traffic theres almost zero need to apply throttle at all in a residential area.. I noticed when I was watching Youtube videos all the guys with metrics had to apply throttle to properly take off and remain stable.. a dyna does not need this.

>>17719381
>under powered
>over priced
>over weight
>old designs
Pointless company compared to competition.

>>17719334
There was a guy on /b/ a few years back who was in his 70's posted a timestamp pic and everything ( no sharpie thank god ). Today it would be old wrinkly rate mah benis.

>>17719369
When folks quit buying them....so damn near never.

>>17719396
Well, we have gramps, with his glorious inline 6 bike

>>17719396
Wasn't there some German guy in his 90's BTFOing /pol/ about having grown up in Nazi Germany? I feel like I saw a screenshot of that somewhere.

>>17719370
ktms are usually expensive to maintain. the te250 would be fun but idk about riding a 2 stroke around on roads. I feel like i'd blow the motor in a month

There is yet hope -- there is another, smaller track less than an hour from where I live. Might not be the worst choice considering my shitbike's 20 year old anemic restricted engine.
>100 € for course-specific race licence
>1 wednesday per month 75 € / day flat rate riding
>otherwise around 15 € per 15 minutes riding
>no on-site fuel station, have to bring own fuel
Welp, time to see if dad wants to play roadie and drive fuel around for me, or if he can find a transporter / trailer to get both our bikes there and go fast together.

>>17716930
>currently have to start bike by shorting out 2 wires
>it's raining right now
I'm gonna fucking die aren't I?

>>17717082
Look for something on sale, I got my icon airmada for 130ish on revzilla 2 yrs ago.

>>17718480
surprisingly accurate

>>17719495
Fix your shit

Going to look at a couple Strom 650 with 92k miles. It's an '08, should I be worried about the miles? He's only asking 1000 for it but I'm sure I can get him down to at least 800. will I regret it?

>>17719495
Give it back Jamal

>>17719509
I'm eternally waiting on parts

>>17717082
Fly trekker

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>>17719510
V Strom* fucking phone

>>17719515
I'd be happy if I stole this, wouldn't need to bother finding my key, instead got the worst of both worlds

>get new alternator cover gasket in
>was bent to fuck in the mail
god fucking damnit I waited 2 weeks for this bullshit

can I just do it without a new gasket? what's the chance it leaks?

>>17719510
It's a Suzuki I'm sure it's fine if it's been looked after

>>17717104
I would recommend sitting on the v7 first. The v7 stone/special have a standard seating position, while a v7 racer has more of a sporty seating position.
The older v7's have a tachometer, while some of them have a 6 speed gearbox.
Also be advised, the gearbox is clunky and there wasn't much top end when I was at a demo event.
The maintenance will be easy for valve adjustments, the shaft drive can be good, or bad.

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>>17719466
There is a TE250 4 stroke too.

If you get the 2009 or earlier the bottom end is the same as the 450/510 bikes. Seriously under stressed as a 250. You still have to change the oil quite often though.

This was my wifes 2008

>>17719495
Starter solenoid, they are cheap, get a new one.

>>17719538
>what's the chance it leaks

Use it, put a tiny ( TINY motherfucker ) dab of RTV anywhere it looks like it has broken the fibers. Should seal just fine.

>>17719538
Gasket maker on both sides.
Pray you never have to open it again.

>>17719574
It was the button itself that died, had to cut it off so I could have lights and some way of starting it besides a bump

>sell 1/4 of my bitcoin now and buy a brand new bike
>keep it all and hope to retire on it

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>>17719567
>my wifes
I'll have to look into them when I am shopping around

What's the last litter sport bike without ride by wire?

>>17719609
Ha.
Had that on my XR kill button. Did what you're doing to kill it instead of start it.
Just replace the button. Or fix the one you have, could be some solder come undone. It happens.

>>17719683
*Liter
Damn swype, why

What are your controversial moto opinions?
>FI is good
>ABS is good
>TC is good
>ride by wire is good

>>17719689
I agree with all of them, if it's done well. I'd take a litrebike with all the nannies if I can set when they kick in, some have up to 30 levels of abs you can choose from

>>17719689
>starting on a 600 is fine
>there should be a graduated licensing system but the yuro one is way too cucked

>>17719622
I'd hold on to that shit till retirement, it may end up happening sooner than you think.