[Daily Bike Thread - /dbt/]

I want a bike ;_;

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I created a bike entirely on mspaint as you can see.

I know I'm missing a lot of things on it.

Feedbacks are widely welcome.

(It's on PNG format so you can give a custom color if you have mspaint or are on windows)

Has there ever been a bigger cuck than WR on /dbt/?

>>17701397
Get one

>Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eUgMOKMsuVc

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Is there any bike more 90s than the ZXR400?
>400cc i4
>that paint
>those stupid air intake tubes
>green wheels

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Where the 80's and 90's the best years for motorcycling?

>>17701401
Needs transmission.

And suspensions.

And brake calipers arms, they don't float in air near the discs.

>>17701439
Are the two round headlights 90's or 80's because those get my vote

>>17701383
>hektic road bike crashes 2017 part 5!
>guy with almost no gear on, gloves and a dirt-bike helmet at most
>dirt bike on the road
>riding in a group over multiple lanes
>wheelies

WELL I'M SURE THIS WILL END WELL

I'M SURE IT WILL JUST BE SOME TERRIBLE CAR DRIVING CAUSING A MINOR ACCIDENT

OH NOW HE'S ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD I'M SURE THAT NOTHING BAD WILL COME OF THIS HIGHLY INTELLIGENT INDIVIDUAL!

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>>17701467

>>17701474
All bikers are idiots one way or another.

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Bring back 2-stroke sportbikes

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>tfw I just put my beloved SV up for sale to finance my MT09

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>>17701501
I'll own a NSR250R one day. Mark my words, familia.

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>>17701528
One day.

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>>17701515
The exact same progession as me

Noice

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>>17701536
Old bike

I dont even really like yellow, they just kind of both ended up that way

>>17701536
I'll miss her, great first bike.

But I'm driving longer tours now with my dad (who I also got into the hobby) and the ergonomics wreak havoc on my knees.

The MT is the only naked that seems to fit me (aside from the 1290R, but that's a few years away)

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New rider here, is there an /o/-approved list of good beginner bikes?

>>17701501
>euro any
>fun
Lel

>>17701532
I know a guy who had one and took it to 300cc.
then he sold it for a Honda RS250

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>>17701543
Its a good bike for that. This is from a 15 hour day I did, Im tall so theres no way it could have happened on the SV. It a good bike

>>17701411
Rode that fucker all the way down.

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>>17701477

>>17701555
I was especially surprised just how comfy the stock seat was. I had to ask the clerk twice because I could not believe that wasn't the comfort option

>>17701551
Kauf meine SV, besser gehts nich.

>>17701411
Should have leaned more

>>17701411
>Murray said the bike's steering locked up and caused him to lose control.

>"I was only doing, like, 40 miles per hour and I went to lean into this turn and this bike would not let lean," Murray said.

Yah I totally believe it was the bike and not the rider failing to turn harder like all the /dbt/ newbies.

Guy claims to have six years riding experience. Wonder if he was high, and how much of his experience is in riding high.

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>>17701383
>more 90's than you can handle edition

So basically a thread for poor faggots with unsafe road junk purchased by NEET virgins using mommys retirement money

>>17701439
>fake ram-air
>with ugly vacuum tubes

fucking glorious

>>17701591
>shiting on japscrap
>posts european copy of japscrap
Pottery

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>>17701411
THIS is why I wear a parachute that I bought off ebay when I go riding the hilly north with thousands of metres of drops on the corners. One small move and I pull that chute and nope the fuck outta there using the wind in my sails.

>>17701561

is gut, Juergen

>>17701615
>about to hit cliff
>safer to speed up and get even more air

Exhilarating

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>>17701615
Holy shit it actually happened once

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Finally, after moving, I will have enough saved up (plus a bit of extra from school grant money) to buy a motorcycle by the end of the month. It's been 4 months since my last ride, wew so excited. And it's about to be selling season.

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>>17701465
>2017
>Doesn't have antigrav suspension and brake system

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>>17701681
Oops.

Is there a name for this style of bike? I can only assume it's a California thing

>>17701681
Christ burn it.

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>>17701690

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>>17701411
RIP SEF

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>>17701558
IFAIAC the 919 doesn't quite count for 'round headlights'.

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>>17701591
>K-konichiwa g-guys, I-I am Japanese too!

>>17701723
Why is that german there? What the fuck m8, I rate 8/8

>>17701723
Thats a beautiful pic

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>>17701383
Runnin in the 90's ATG style.

..and i still have and fit in those leathers.

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Gentleman's rocket reporting for duty.

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>>17701748
Thank you, anon, but which bike is best?

And why is pic related the answer?

/g/ here, I want to get a cbr 300 or maybe 600 as a beginner bike, why does the sticky say I shouldn't? it seems like just the RR means it is designed for experienced users. can I not get a beginner friendly cbr?

>>17701772
>>17701795
>Honda
might as well kys

>>17701795
The 300 is OK.

The 600 isn't.

>>17701572
I met the guy last week. Caught up to him in traffic while he was doing wheelies. We pulled over and chatted for a bit, dude looked high but whatever. He bought that FZ10 used and shit was falling apart on it, that's why I kinda believe him when he says something fucked up. There were literally bits coming off of the bike. Strange fellow though

>>17701804
What's wrong with a 600?

>>17701592
I want one so bad, imagine going full tuck with those fucking things right in your face, screaming through the gears to the 15k redline, all without breaking the speed limit.

>>17701815
Because they are incredibly unforgiving, and you will need to be forgiven.

Just do the right thing and get a 650 twin like every adult does.

>>17701795
Its the the cbr600f , which became the cbr650f.

Either way, the 300 is probably what you
want, great beginner bike. not sure where you're getting that you shouldn't get a cbr from, its only the 600rr that would be particularly dangerous

>>17701850
>you will need to be forgiven
Only if you're a retard

>>17701641
We have some spots around here you could do that easily, nowhere to land at the bottom of the canyon though.

>>17701690
SoCal maybe

>>17701855
or inexperienced.

If you jerk the throttle on a 600 supersport in a corner, you will highside and you may get seriously injured.
If you do it on a 650 twin you'll get scared and maybe lowside and get a bruise and a lesson about throttle control.

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>>17701815
They're the real deal.

These 250/300/500 'sporty' bikes are nothing more than commuters with racy fairings on them but the cbr600rr and it's ilk are actual supersports and they aren't meant for the uniniciated.

Read >>16832630 for more in dept info.

With that said, maybe a 600 supersport from the early 90s could work. They weren't quite as 'all race bike all the time' back then from what I have been told.

>>17701867
Shouldn't be taking corners in a way that makes it dangerous if you're inexperienced anyways.

>>17701879
There is only one way to take a corner.
And you shouldn't be riding a supersport either.

>>17701879
How would you know it's dangerous if you're inexperienced?

>>17701803
thats also something im considering
>>17701852
>not sure where you're getting that you shouldn't get a cbr from, its only the 600rr that would be particularly dangerous
>>>16832630
>WELL, I WANT TO START ON A CBR...
>Don't... These bikes do not tolerate mistakes

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>>17701690
That was built by Loosespokz, North Carolina. It's their sort of thing.

http://loosespokz.com/

>>17701891
That's referring to the CBR600RR and fireblade, which are the supersports.

>>17701893
Ah, so when you pull up to a 300lb niggress on her stretched busa you have a chance at getting your dick wet once/if you get past the fupa.

>>17701886
>Taking the twisties
dangerous
>regular city roads
not dangerous
Easy as fuck to figure that out. And if you high side turning into a parking lot or onto a new road, then you weren't meant to ride a bike anyways.

i fukt ur mom faggit

>>17701914
I dunno, whatever it is they do in NC

Just amused that the assumption was that these are California bikes.

>>17701884
I'm not that anon. But when I was just starting out a few years ago(by starting out, I mean a week into riding my ninja500), my dad told me to ride his gxr to the shop because he was at work and couldn't do it, and I had no problems with it because I'm not a retard.

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>>17701935
600 super sports got their reputation as being cruel to newbies due to all the Icy Hot Stuntaz going all street-Rossi the first day they got their bikes.

>>17701913
Okay, thanks for the clarification

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ffs anons you can't have a 90's bike thread without the damn 916. It's arguably the best looking bike of the 90's, maybe even in the whole history of bikes.

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>>17701935
I also know people who started on 1000cc supersports and never had a crash either.

Of course it's possible, but thats not the average experience.

>>17701964
>implying implications

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>>17701964

> 916

B-but it says 996?

>>17701964
>those headlights
>undertail exaust

No

>>17701981
996 is based on the 916.

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Does anyone know what helmet this is? Went to the flat track races and they kept playing this HD commercial and I really like the helmet the rider is wearing.

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>>17701994

what is this bike called?

>riding R1200R around town
>go past pedestrian cross walk
>hear girl comment 'wow thats a big bike'

>>17701998
I believe that's Harley's new Street Rod.

>>17702004
>>17702004
>>17702004
>>17702004

>>17701998
This anon >>17702006 is correct. The new HD Street Rod 750.

Still hoping for source on the helmet. Or a helmet similar with an extra large face sheild but still has a chin bar. I don't want a 3/4 helmet which is the only stuff I can seem to find that is 'close' to this styling.

>>17702004
4U

What is the best engine configuration for a touring bike?

>>17702004
i6

>>17702004
>riding WR450 around town
>pass anyone ever
>constantly hear "do a wheelie"
I swear, its every single person
I dont whoolie for morons

>>17702021

Thank you for acknowledging my exactitude, my good sir.

However, since this is a PR shot for the bike, we can only assume that the rider is clad in HD gear.

This is the helmet:
https://www.harley-davidson.com/store/vintage-stripe-b06-full-face-helmet

>>17702040
Meant for
>>17702034

>>17701994
Looks like a gringo

>>17701994
Bell Bullet.

>>17702041
>rides a hooligan bike
>doesn't know how to whoolie

Post pics of WR.

>>17702012
I got it anon

I like the look and style of café racers and the aesthetic that goes with it.
Make fun of me.

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>>17702044
Thanks my man. Your ability to use reason is far beyond that of my own. Here's a pic as a token of my gratitude.

>>17701988
996 is the same bike but with a bigger motor. See also 998.

>>17702041
My last buddy to break something was goaded into a dank whoolie by some kids in his hood.

> take 8 weeks off while your broken foot heals cause you 1 oclocked that fucker in front of a bunch of puke nobikes.

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>>17702050
Its not a hooligan bike...
>>17702071
This

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>>17701964
Not so fast, anon!

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>>17702025
>4U.

>>17702107
My apologize, I assumed it was SM'd out.

>>17702049
Bullitt

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>Moto Guzzi
>someone pronounces it "guh-zee"

Absolutely disgusting.

>>17701646
I still think you should never have sold the sv

WHY THE FUCK DOES SUZUKI ALWAYS HAVE STIFF FUCKING IGNITION LOCKS

>>17702185
Anyone calling a Guzzi a 'guttzi' is a massive ponce.

>ride a dual sport/dirt bike on the road for 6 years
>finally get a sports bike

Fucking hell turning is so different on these bikes, I can hardly turn at all

>>17702185
moto >gutsy

>>17702215
I think >>17702185 is talking about how it guh-zee is always wrong compared to goo-zee.

Goo-tzee (with a very sharp tz) is the objectively superior way to pronounce it, although, yeah, yer a cunt if you pronounce it like that outside of Italy.

>>17702215
>>17702223
>calling an Italian brand by it's actual Italian name is "being a ponce"
Yeah, lets all just pronounce stuff wrong on purpose. That's smart.

>>17702215
>pronouncing it right makes you a ponce
Fuck off Ausfag.

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>>17702221
Lean that shit boyo

>>17702221
Protip: you can always lean more, the grip really is insane with good tires.

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>>17702125

You can feel free to speg out now.

>>17702221
I feel ya, everytime I get on my memebike after riding the 1190r for a while I just about fling it off the canyon on the first turn.

Would a klr650 be a decent starter bike?

>>17701411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUL5w91dzbo

>>17702308
Yes. Be sure to get a cheap second hand one, so you don't feel bad when you crash it.

>>17702308
No get something with fuel injection

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Post/guess headlights

>>17702308
As long as you are fairly tall, yes.

>>17702328
2009-2014 R1

>>17702323
Why?

>>17702348
Because carbs are shit

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>going to be at least 2-3 months until I can afford a bike
>starting to consider giving in to the Finance Jew just so I don't have to wait that long
I know nobikes aren't welcome around here but I just wanted to vent because nobody besides my mom cares

>>17702374
Yet let your bike sit unloved for more than a week?
Carbs are fine. You just need to know how to treat the bike.

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baffle or no baffle /dbt/?

>>17701383
I want that helmet. What is it?

>>17702404
I'm in the exact same boat as you. I don't even want anything nice, just a cheap starter bike to learn on and have fun.
It's hard when you're a student and have to pay rent and car and insurance and all that shit.

>>17702461
Baffle, what's that?

>>17702481
DB killer

>>17702461
Do you ride a cruiser and wear chaps?

>>17702404
Your mom doesn't care either.

>>17702486
Never heard of such things, sounds stupid and irrational.

>>17702492
What?

>>17702461
Are you a nigger/slav?

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>>17702050
>Post pics of WR.

>>17702514
>>17702492
>>17702489
>buys an aftermarket exhaust
>puts a silencer in it

What's the point, eh?

>>17702526
Looks, nicer sound (not louder), weight reduction

>>17701465
Thanks.

Anyone else use a street helmet off-road? I used mine last time because I couldn't find my goggles, and it was pretty nice.

>>17702461
Get a hiviz baffle to match your hiviz fanny pack
Fag

>>17702479
You're a student... and have a car payment...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF5yn0quS9A

Not sure if HNNNG or Daaaw.

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Why is this BMW motorbike having an asymmetrical headlight?

>>17702540
Get out of here with good reasons.

Fucking faggot.

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>>17702572
Because fuck you that's why

>>17702568
kys

>>17702572
Because highbeam/lowbeam have different lens/reflector requirements. BMW cares how good the lights work and not what they look like.

>>17702605
I didn't know that. Thanks for that.

>>17702112
Damn, I miss my S3

>>17702047
twin cylinder

>>17701551
The best beginner bike is the one you feel most comfortable with. Go to a dealership check out all the bikes , sit on them and if you can ask to take them for a test ride.

>>17702516
L.O.L. What is this?!!

What's dbt's thoughts on the BMW K75 or K100 RT?

>>17702694
no

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What kind of jacket do you wear?

>>17702596
>Not wanting a qt buble butt petite scooter to reng deng deng around the city.

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>>17701551
Smooth, even, power delivery.
Fuel efficient.
Easy to work on.
Engine is used in these three, and Rebel. Parts will be everywhere for your entire lifespan.
Great aftermarket for a "beginner," since 400 is medium sized overseas.
Will never leave you stranded.
ABS is available, but I recommend you pull the fuse for your first couple months. Learn where the threshold is.
As low as 3.5 k from dealership. Leftovers as late as last year go for 5k.

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>>17701464
Probably mid 80's is the best, before emissions faggotry really shit things up.
Dunno about sport bikes but it was a great time for dual sports and dirt bikes. They're still plenty reliable to ride and easy to fix today and a lot of people prefer them. Those were also probably the last days you could build cheap Harley Davidsons out of junkyard parts, now all those homemade bikes are super collectible (most bought by Japanese collectors kek).
And 80's rally/Dakar bikes are seriously badass.

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>>17702724
*bubble.

>>17702726
Not this
Boring and overpriced, there are 2 members of the Honda marketing team shilling them here because they aren't selling enough, discard all they say

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>bought a Yamaha Radian earlier this year
>knock in lower part of engine now
>could sell it to someone dumb enough to want a project
>could also fix the engine and make it into a project

I've heard it said that the best project bike is the one you have. I've got another bike for daily riding right now, so it's not like I need to worry about finishing a job in a weekend.

Think I should do it lads? The bike's worth fuck all, and it's not a culturally important classic like a CB750F, but it is a little obscure. It's flashy, and it could be made into a nice bike.
I'm thinking
>rebuild the engine
>carbs
>swap bars for clipons, but higher up ones instead of low ones
>round headlight and mirrors
>possible paint job

>>17702718
>wearing jackets
lulzor

>>17702718
cotton tshirt

>>17702726
>ABS is available, but I recommend you pull the fuse for your first couple months
Jesus fuck you're stupid. Do it your way, and you'll just lowside when you panic brake as a newbie.

Instead, just leave the ABS system active, like any reasonable person would. If you panic brake, you won't lowside, and you'll know that you exceeded the limits of braking because you'll feel ABS kick in.

ABS is vital for learners, and it's a good thing for road bikes. The only place where you should ever disable it is on a track, on very good tires, with plenty of training behind you. It's a brilliant safety net for any road bike, because even the most experienced riders can panic brake in an emergency, grab the brakes too hard, and dump their bike.

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>>17702740

>>17702694
Boring

>>17701817
>all without breaking the speed limit.
They'll do 200kph though. 0-60 in 5 seconds, which is plenty to get your license revoked within 10 seconds unless you're on the Autobahn.

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>>17702694
I'm getting one as a project, but it's really really shit
Avoid the k100

So I got my A1 license, got a 125cc dirtbike, loved the fuck out of it because it was so damn light and nimble.
Got my A2 two years ago, fell into depression, sold my bike because I started riding like a madman.
Off my meds now, and I'm feeling like I can go for my full A license. I loved my first bike, really light and nimble, and I was disappointed in every bike I rode after that because they all felt so damn heavy. What do I buy?

>>17702821
a 450cc thumper

fuck off wr anon

>>17702762
I strongly disagree with you here, anon.

Riders did fine without ABS for decades, instead learning to pay attention to the road and what themselves, other drivers and riders were doing,

If anything I reckon that the more nannies you have in your bike the less you'll comit to actually riding it.

>>17702821
Try an SV (170kg) or a dirtbike (150kg)

>>17702694
I had a K75C, only bike I've ever hated.

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I dunno what kind of shitbikes you're riding, but on the shivvy i'm lifting the rear well before i even come close to locking the front

ABS is for retards

>>17701411
>Is he alive or dead?
>"EEUGGHHAA"
i feel bad for laughing

>>17702490
She does because she said she'd give me $1k towards the cost of the bike, gaytron

>>17702479
That's what pisses me off, I don't even have many bills to pay for. I just have to keep at my wageslavery until I can save the schmeckles to either buy something outright or attempt to rehab my credit score.

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>>17702834
This. Next thing you know you'll have "collision avoidance systems" like the skynet ass cars here.
>>17702745
t. Yamaha marketing.
Watch him pull the consumer reports chart next. Like warranty claims effect longevity.

>>17702826
Never rode a WR, and a 450cc single seems underpowered if I'd ever want to go on the highway.

>>17702835
I'll look into those, thanks.

>>17702892
>underpowered if I'd ever want to go on the highway
sure thing WR anon, it needs the power to haul your fat ass over the nurburgin you cuk

>>17702877
Is your mom widowed? I need a new income, and any (classy lady) willing to chip in on a first bike must be loaded.

>>17702888
No, km the Aprilia guy, but you'r blatant marketing is getting on my nerver

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>>17701439
zxr a best

>>17702811
>>17702845
Shame, is it the ride? sound? terrible reliability?

There's one I pass by everyday in a parking garage and as stupid as it sounds those valve covers always catch my attention

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hi there

>>17702834
>>17702850
>safety nets are a bad thing
>safety nets make your ride worse
This is the biggest bullshit I've ever heard, and I've only owned 30+ yo bikes - so no ABS by definition.

>Riders did fine without ABS for decades
There's this thing called technological advancement, and when it keeps me from dumping my bike because I had a natural reaction and panicked, then it's a good thing. It's especially good for new riders.

>i'm lifting the rear well before i even come close to locking the front
Good. Now try outbraking ABS. During our motorcycle courses, we tried, and I never even got close, despite almost lifting the rear wheel.

Now try never panicking, ever, in your day to day life - which is the exact reaction you're trying to suppress. Even if ABS only prevented your screwups (which is what it's designed for), and braked at 90% of it's maximum efficiency, that'd still be a good thing. However, it tends to outbrake most humans, especially in non-controlled situations.

>>17702834
Ding ding ding
ABS is for motofloggers not paying attention and inept weekend riders that don't take the time learn how to control their machine. It's less riding and more driving once you've got all this tech holding your hand.
Essentially, git gud.

>>17702930
For a 750 triple it's not fast, for a touring bike it's not comfy, it's EFI but has a choke still, the hand switches are fucking retarded, it weighs a metric fuckton, and burns a lot of oil if you use the side stand because of the sideways cylinders. Mine was reliable for the 3 months I owned it until I sold it for a loss because I hated it and wanted it gone.

>>17702936
Not either of those guys but my only objection to ABS on beginner bikes is that it's still a new technology and the vast majority of bikes don't have it, so if you learn on a bike with ABS, then a few years later go out and buy a 5 year old R6 and start mashing the brake like you could on your 300, you're gonna end up dead.

>>17702930
Oil seeps into the cylinders and gets burnt because the whole engine is sideways

I agree though, the flying brick is very aesthetic

>>17702936
No, noqqa, i meant it when i said it
If i panic i'm lifting the rear wheel, not a chance in hell I'm looking the front
I do better on my 200kg bike than on the scoot's single disc ABS, despite it only being 150kg

And It's not like i don't feel It, i KNOW i can do better that what the ABS allows, especially on the wet, where it makes the brakes useless

>>17702955
>>17702936
>>17702850
>>17702834
>>17702762
>>17702726
>this shit again

Disabling ABS (on the front, on pavement, at least) if your bike has it is retarded.
Not buying a bike because it doesn't have ABS is retarded.
Not buying a bike because it does have ABS is retarded.

>>17702936
Lets agree to disagree.

>>17702978
>ABS
>been on bikes since the 80s
>new technology
Japs have just been cheap as fuck not to put it on theirs standard

>>17702914
Even madder reliability will never stack up to Honda's cheapest, shittiest, makes.
>>17702978
This. Old bikes are awesome. Why limit your skill set, and gate off 100 years of history while gas is still a 4 dollar gallon (US subsidies)?

>>17701401
>spoke design a shit
>looks like a bird
>is that a heel toe shifter?
>forks look like a solid tube ie no suspension.
>rear brake on the wrong side
>no drive chain/belt. Maybe shaft?

>>17702996
>bragging that BMW had an optional 22lb ABS system on one bike in 1988, four years before Honda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system_for_motorcycles

>>17702955
>I'm a profesionnal MotoGP rider who will be able to always control his bike, regardless of situation, regardless of snow, ice and rain, and specific tire wear, and I will never, ever brake harder than the current traction of my bike will allow
Sure mate.

>>17702978
>the vast majority of bikes don't have it
Not really, every single learner bike I've been on during my lessons had ABS. I then moved on to 30 year old shitbikes without ABS, and didn't outbrake my shitty old tires, because I was careful, and cognisant of the lack of ABS.
> 5 year old R6 and start mashing the brake like you could on your 300
That's plain stupid, and you should be braking more carefully, even on that 300.
ABS kicks in? That's a clear sign that you dun goofed big time, and if it weren't for the electronics, you'd be on the floor with several bruises at the bare minimum.

>>17702982
>If i panic i'm lifting the rear wheel, not a chance in hell I'm looking the front
Let's see you do that on every road surface, all the time, in every kind of weather.

>>17702984
>Disabling ABS (on the front, on pavement, at least) if your bike has it is retarded.
>Not buying a bike because it doesn't have ABS is retarded.
>Not buying a bike because it does have ABS is retarded.
Agree with you 100%.

>>17702988
Let's not.

>>17703019
I'm not bragging about anything. Just making the point that abs on bikes is nothing new like the other anon stated

>>17701536
FZ 09 crew in the house!

>>17701555
What's the tailbag model? Obviously Joe Rocket but.

>>17701411
>says he'll never ever get on another motorcycle.

good.

>>17703009
>Old bikes are awesome.
See >>17702984
>Disabling ABS (on the front, on pavement, at least) if your bike has it is retarded.
>Not buying a bike because it doesn't have ABS is retarded.
Not him, but I agree that old bikes are great, and I've always owned old bikes. However, disabling ABS is retarded, and thinking that ABS makes you a worse rider is so retarded you confused your helmet with your pants.

>>17703044
I agree that ABS enables shitty riders to keep being shitty for longer before they crash, but I don't think it matters on the street, and anyone concerned with becoming more skilled isn't prevented from doing so.

>>17703055
My problem with ABS is that I like to slide the rear around so unless it was a super easy switch I wouldn't want it.

>>17703020
>Let's not agree to disagree.

Oh, how edgy!

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>>17701817
>>17702805
>>17702918
can confirm it's fast enough to get into trouble with the police on. I've had 140mph out of it

>>17702877
>giving money is caring

>>17702315
says the guy who crashes into groms

>>17703055
>I agree that ABS enables shitty riders to keep being shitty for longer before they crash
No. If ABS kicks in for the shitty rider, then he gets a second go, and he can learn that this isn't how he should be braking. ABS is a safety net, and the trick of a safety net is that you learn that you failed.
>but I don't think it matters on the street
It does though, even for a very experienced rider. It's just a matter of time before you overlook that small puddle, or before you overgrab a panic stop.
>and anyone concerned with becoming more skilled isn't prevented from doing so.
The nice thing of a good ABS setup is that you can actually practice with it on an empty parking lot: try and slow down from x mph until a standstill as fast as you can without tripping the ABS system. If you do that on a bike without ABS and you keep it upright, you didn't try hard enough. If you go beyond the limit of grip, you'll go down.

>>17703057
>Intentionally losing grip on a two-wheeled vehicle on the public road
You deserve whatever crash this causes.

>>17703065
It's not edgy if your opinion is wrong.

>>17703092
You sound like a shitty rider.

>>17702931
Cheeky breeky

>>17703092
>the trick of a safety net is that you learn that you failed
If people were as intelligent as you're assuming them to be, we wouldn't need ABS in the first place.

>he doesn't intentionally lock up the rear on public roads
fucking eurocucks

>>17703107
>Baird calling anyone a cuck
Now I've read it all

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>>17702206
I had to move, needed the money man. I never wanted to sell it either

>>17703092
>not getting comfortable with your bike sliding
you deserve whatever crash this causes

I still think beginners should learn without ABS until they've worked their way up to street riding in less-than ideal conditions and traffic.
New riders shouldn't be putting themselves into situations where they're more likely to encounter emergency braking situations. You don't need ABS for parking lots and quiet roads and you shouldn't be riding with traffic until you've gotten very familiar with how the bike handles and how much brake you need to give it. So practice heavy braking a lot like in MSF without ABS.
And of course, ride the speed limit, don't follow cars closely, and brake earlier when learning. It's foolproof.

>>17702740
>talking out your ass
Kys nigger boy
Bend over so i can shove my dick in ur white boypus

>>17703120
What u gonna buy next my guy?

>>17703129
I agree with the thesis, but want to point out that not every rider is a suburbanite. Rural shits like my father had to ride 20 miles to the nearest parking lot. Urban ones, like myself, go 15-30 blocks to an uninhabited school. Assuming it's the weekend.
Deer and beemers don't care how long you've been riding. Learning not to count on anything is best done early.

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>>17701439
Ugly 90s sportbike is the best aesthetic.

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>>17703173
I don't know yet, I'm waiting for all the fair weather riders and summerfags to sell their bikes. I've got about 2.5k saved up for this (which is pretty much the exact amount I sold my bike for). If I find another SV I'll hop on that train fast as I can. If not, I'll just keep searching.

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>>17703092
>>17703092
>It's not edgy if your opinion is wrong.
Cool story, Pitagoras.

You're just being edgy after all. :^)

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post the picture of this date a few years ago

>didn't took a pic at 11th

>>17703107
>If people were as intelligent as you're assuming them to be
I'm assuming people to be very stupid, actually.

>>17703129
>I still think beginners should learn without ABS
>So practice heavy braking a lot like in MSF without ABS.
Nope. If don't crash a non-ABS bike during your learning phase, you haven't learned to brake hard enough.
If you did crash during your learning phase, you've set your own development behind by at least a year, because you will quickly fear the front brake.
Without ABS, you cannot properly explore the limit of grip - unless you really want to crash.

>New riders shouldn't be putting themselves into situations where they're more likely to encounter emergency braking situations.
That's called the public road, and there will always be emergencies there. You don't ever stop being a new rider by staying off the public road, either.

>>17703238
Why do you guys analyze learning to ride a bike so much? Ride with ABS, don't ride with ABS, you'll eventually learn how to ride if you aren't mentally handicapped.

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>>17702112
glorious bikes

>>17701913
The 600rr is an okay starter bike if you respect the throttle and brake with two fingers

How hard is it to change the front turn signals on a Harley Fatboy 2009? I want to get a batwing fairing but I'd need to relocate the signals, and the cabling seems to run through the handlebars instead of being on the outside of them.

If anyone has a good guide or video guide for this, I'd be much appreciated.

>>17703287
About 5 hard

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>>17703238
>he can't even lock his brakes up without crashing
And you are the guy giving people advice around here?

>>17702605
Yamaha also does this but without making the lights ugly

>>17703238
You're a fucking retard and you should stop giving advice.

>>17703299
Have you not seen the fz series of bikes?

>>17703287
Extremely simple.
>Mounted by bolts
>Unbolt
>Relocate
>Secure bolt
You could even extend the wiring and bolt it up your ass if you want

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post your'e bike

>>17703238
i hope nobody is actually taking advice from this dumb nigger

>>17701401
It reminds me of that bike used in the cartoon series Mummies Alive. Looks okay but there's a lot of things well done and a lot are well off.

>>17703322
That's for bikes with the wires outside the handlebars. Guides I see for this model seem to require removing the gas tank.

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>>17702605
literally every other manufacturer does the same thing. They make the housing and lens shape the same so it looks symmetrical, but shape the reflector differently for different light patterns on each beam.
BMW just does the asymmetrical look for brand image.

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>>17702718

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>>17703334

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me at the front

>>17703258
Why eventually learn to ride, while being at a severe risk of taking your precious new bike down with you? Even if it's just a shitty 250, crashing usually results in bad habits that take a long time to get rid of.

Knowing how to learn to ride a bike is being one step ahead to being proficient with one.

>>17703296
>He can reliably lock up his front wheel without crashing
Sorry, didn't realise I was talking to God here.

>>17703429
You can't?
because i seriously can...
it's not hard..
whats with you r3 riders trying to school people on riding when you have clearly been riding for a year at most.

Yuro hours /dbt/ is so shit

>>17703316
They look pretty great in person actually

>DON'T START ON A 600 YOU'LL WHISKY THROTTLE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CORNER AND HIGHSIDE (a fucking 600. are you topping out 1st going into your driveway or something lmao)
>MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ABS JUST IN CASE YOU BREAK ALL GOOD HABITS AND GRAB THE FRONT BRAKE WITH ALL FOUR FINGERS AND SQUEEZE HARD/RIDE IN HEAVY RAIN/ON DIRT LIKE AN IDIOT
>YOUR NUMBA ONE GOAL SHOULD BE RIDING YOUR BIKE AS HARD AS POSSIBLE ON PUBLIC ROADS THAT'S WHY YOU NEED A 250CC AND AT LEAST TWO RIDER AIDS SO YOU DONT DIE

You guys I fucking swear

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>>17703531
dbt is a magical place

>>17703520
They don't look great in person, just better than they do in photos.

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>>17703545
No, they look pretty cool.

When you grow up and get past your need to like "adult" and "classy" things like round headlights you'll understand.

>>17703566
>When you grow up and get past your need to like "adult" and "classy" things like round headlights you'll understand.

Kys

>>17703199
No wonder dudebro hurly 1%ers thought sportbike riders were gay af.

>>17703531
>Implying new riders have any good habits
>Implying you get to choose whether you ride in the rain or not
Some people actually ride their bikes mate.

>>17703578
t. rides to work even when it rains because "muh real bikers"

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>>17703334

>>17703577
>on my dual sport
>see hardly tough guy coming the other way
>he has no gear on
>patched vest
>he looks away from me as we pass each other
Morons

>>17703583
This, who the fuck wants to ride to work in the rain at 6am?
much rather drive my car, listen to the news with the heater on.
poor people i guess.

>>17703583
No.
t. Doesn't take the bus back from work just because it's raining and oh dear I might get wet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r-3Zzm6liw

>>17703566
>When you grow up and get past your need to like "adult" and "classy" things
If anything it's the other way

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>>17701439

>>17703605
I actually like riding no matter the weather as long as the ground isn't icy.

Only really use my car for getting groceries and shit now, haven't used it for anything else in months.

>>17703639
You must have a shit car.

>>17703642
It's okay, I just like bikes more.

>>17703605
I do.
Saves me 15/30 minutes per direction.

>>17703654
So do i but i don't like riding in the rain.
ill do it out of need but i won't willingly get my bike out when its pissing down rain.

>>17703665
I just chuck on some rain pants and go on as I normally would, it's like an extra 30 seconds and I save so much more time than that being on my bike.

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>>17701411
>eeeeuuuuuaaaaggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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>>17701411
>watch as this motorcyclist tries to make a turn at 40mph
>dash says 60mph

just fell through a catch basin

WEW LADS

>>17702315
>>17702315
6'3 and used one around here are going for 2500 to 5000, is that good pricing?

>>17703796
USD? I would never pay more than $2500 for a KLR, they're fucking dogs, literally the worst dual sport you can buy, and the only reason to buy one is that they're cheap as shit

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I've been thinking about getting pic related/something similar for my first bike.
Is that a good idea? Mostly for fucking around and learning how to not die, really want a dualsport so I can practice on dirt and asphault.
And while I'm asking stupid questions, east coast US to west coast and back, probably bringing someone on the return with a decent load of things, what kind of bike would be good for that? Something with a sidecar?
>Why don't you just use a car for that you idiot
Too big for me, too autistic, hate most anything after 2000, whatever.
5'9" if that matters.

>>17703857
How is a car too autistic?

>>17703857
Absolutely do not ride to the west coast to pick up your internet girlfriend and bring her back.

>>17703883
He meant he is too autistic.
cars are fine.

>>17703857
>east coast US to west coast and back
Check out the Trans America Trail
Riding that distance two up with a bunch of useless luggage is retarded, that's what planes are for. Everything between the Rockies and the Appalachians is trash.

>>17703857
>And while I'm asking stupid questions, east coast US to west coast and back, probably bringing someone on the return with a decent load of things, what kind of bike would be good for that?

If you care about speed limits, Pan European. If you don't, VFR1200F.

>>17703605
>live in Arizona
>rain isnt a thing here

lmao

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>>17703883
Have you seen how people drive? Faces buried in their phones and shit.
I was referring to myself though.

>>17703886
>Girlfriend
Other way anon. It would be a nice trip anyways though, never been anywhere but here and vegas. Ain't happening for a while regardless.

>>17703915
Will do.
Planes suck ass though.

>>17703918
I would like to stay out of jail, yeah. Thanks.

>>17703937
>I would like to stay out of jail, yeah. Thanks.

Then get a tourer. A dirt bike will have you contemplating suicide near the middle of day one if you're crossing a continent.

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>>17703937
>Planes suck ass though.
Not as much as riding across fucking Kansas on a dirt bike for 16 hours. Ask me how I know.

>>17703842
KLR's see decent just because of the fairing to keep the wind off of you. Can you get fairings for like a dr650 or some other dirt bike?

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>>17703974
Anything worthy of a greentext, Baird?

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>>17703944
So something like this would be good? Looks like it would be.
And yeah no I'm not crazy enough to take a dirt bike cross country.

>>17703974
How do you know? I'm always good for some story time.
I'm amazed you got all that shit on the back of those. Nice bikes too.

>>17704013
>So something like this would be good? Looks like it would be.

It would be the best option in terms of comfort but you don't need to go full Goldwing. A Pan European or Africa Twin would also do nicely. The Pan will be comfier for the long haul but the Twin will be less work in the twisties.

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>>17703989
You can put a fuckhueg fairing on anything. Unless you like to spend a lot of time going over 85, something I don't recommend on a dual sport, I don't find it that crucial.

>>17703944
I did the whole TAT and only wanted to kill myself while I was crossing Kansas, and in the middle of the desert in Nevada.

>>17703997
>wake up at the TAT Shack in AZ
>ride west through the Ozarks for a few hours
>great riding
>come down out of mountains into Oklahoma
>follow TAT up to Kansas border
>me and mate decides we're going to get through this hell hole in one day
>chug Redbulls all day
>long, flat, boring, empty dirt, corn, dirt, corn, dirt, flat, boring
>cruising at 55mph whole time because lol dirt bike geared for offroad
>end up giving up around 2am, only a little over halfway across Kansas
>only cover for 500 miles is pic related
If I ever cross the country like that again, I'm either renting a Uhaul to truck it across so someone can co-drive, or doing 120mph the whole way on a tourer.

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>>17703738
NO ONE CARES ABOUT MY TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS

>>17704013
>How do you know? I'm always good for some story time.
http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/dumb-kids-ride-the-tat.1159956/

>>17704023
Ive always thought doing a cannonball run would be awesome.

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>>17703451

>>17704023
>or doing 120mph the whole way on a tourer.

I hear you but something tells me that a bunch of officers would get a little richer that way.

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>>17704035
tl;dr graduated college, sold everything I owned except pic related, rode whole TAT, amazing trip but half of it sucked, should have spend the whole time in UT and CO

>>17704057
That's why you get a K1300S/VFR1200/K1300/ZZR1400 sport: faster than a police car/helicopter.

>>17704057
bruh there's fucking nothing out there, 100mph between "towns" with 3 farms, a gas pump and no stoplights, and you can see for 30 miles in every direction because it's flat as an 11 year old anorexic girl

>>17704069
100 miles*

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>>17704052
I'll let you know how it is, looks like i'm going to be going as support next year.

>>17702982
>i KNOW i can do better that what the ABS allows, especially on the wet, where it makes the brakes useless


No you can't.

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>>17701964
998 had the testastretta engine and 916 styling. GOAT bike

>>17702988
Why don't you fuck off and quit giving new riders shit information that may cost them their life.

>>17704089
have you ever ridden a non abs bike side by side with one that has abs?
if you can't feel how much of the brake ABS steals from you then maybe you should stop giving advice on the topic.

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>>17704019
I just googled touring motorcycles and that's what caught my eye, don't know jack about anything besides how to generally operate a bike and basic wrenching.
Liking the africa twin but I'm still looking to seat two so the pan euro is probably gonna win that war, I'll just tool around and get used to cornering with it for a while.

>>17704035
>>17704060
Good stuff man. As for myself I'll probably just be shitting around on/around a farm for a year with a ds while I see how life goes with everything, then probably see what I can make happen with crosscountry shenanigans if all is well.

>>17704091

>>17702988 :^)

>>17703107
>If people were as intelligent as you're assuming them to be, we wouldn't need ABS in the first place.


Intelligence has nothing to do with " shit happens ' to the road surface you are riding on.

>>17703129
>It's foolproof
Until it's not.

>>17704080
Holy fuck muh dik.

That is the coolest shit.

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>>17701964
But that's wrong.

>>17703974
It's not any fun in slow private aircraft either.

Fuck the flat area of the USA

>>17704172
>single headlight
into the trash

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Anyone know where I might be able to buy a replacement cap for a coolant reserve tank. I must not have screwed it on correctly after flushing out my coolant and just noticed it's missing after taking my bike out for a ride. Its for a 2014 zx6r

>>17704133
That was the setup for last year, my dad was the mechanic and a friend of his (who owns the bike and has shitfuckloads of money) rode, they made about 3000 of the 3300 miles, next year is Portland to Portland and bikes up to 1928, so we're thinking if we make all the miles we've got a shot at winning.

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>>17704182
Single headlight best headlight.

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>>17704106
I have a bike I can turn it off and have done both over the same chunk of road. It changes nothing in terms of feel.

ABS steals nothing, it gives, shorter stopping distances and safety.

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>it's another I can outbrake abs episode
These threads must be cyclical

>>17704187
Thats a crazy distance for something so old, i bet they break down alot.

Id love to get a replica of one, for how much the originals go for it may be cheaper.

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>>17704234
you know too much

>>17704191
Objectively wrong
Still a nice bike though

>>17704219
>ABS steals nothing, it gives, shorter stopping distances and safety.
on semi clean pavement, on dirt its a goddamn deathtrap