Help me. I'm way too close to snatching up a '15 Veloster

But you void your warranty if you mod it

>>17638302
Only if the dealer can prove the aftermarket part led to the failure, according to the Magnuson Moss Act.

>>17638294

You really find that pretty?

>>17638319
good luck with that

>>17638294
It's not even a meme. It's just an ugly ass gook box.

>>17638354
Love 'em. I realize I may be in the minority though. Oh well, just means better deals for me.

>>17638370
I don't get it

>>17638294
you can get a fist for around the same price

>>17638294
just get a 3k civic. it's a much better car.

>>17638501
But that tarbo, warranty and 21st century technology

>>17638525
turbos are unreliable and cost more maintain. warranties are unnecessary if you have a nice emergency fund. the civic has 21st century tech too. if you need anything other than a radio and aux jack you should kys. Why spend 14k on an econobox when you could spend a little more and get something much better that isn't an econobox.

>>17638550
It's not the cost of repairs that worries me with no warranty, it's the inconvenience of being broken down in an older car and having my dd in the shop meaning I have to rent a car for a week or two because my shit wasn't warrantied

>>17638294
When will people stop trying to buy this pile of shit? It's a Hyundai Accent with plastic surgery. If you don't like the Accent or the way it drives, guess what? Nothing's changed. It's still a miserable econobox that can't turn.

>>17638594
Huh? VT has a completely upgraded suspension

>>17638294
Spend your money on a turbo Cobalt SS, it's better spent that way

>>17638565
renting a car is cheaper than overspending on a shitbox by 11k.

>>17638565
also, no repairs on a civic take 2 weeks. that'd be the shittiest dealer ever.

>>17638738
>Bankrupty-era GM
>Money well-spent

>>17638753
>held the record for production FWD cars on the Burgerking
>LNF Ecotec engine was quite advanced for a GM 4 cylinder
>same design is still used in Regals and Veranos and anything else that lists 2.0T engine
>great aftermarket support
>still holds value reasonably for a 7-9 year old US coupe

What point we're you trying to make again?

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>>17638732
>slightly stiffer
>"completely upgraded"
No. It's just slightly better shocks/struts.

You wanna see a COMPLETELY upgraded suspension?
Drive a normal 2.2L Chevy Cobalt
Then hop in a Cobalt SS Turbo 2.0L
The SS has different:
>struts/shocks
>springs
>ball joints
>sway bars
>brakes
>entire rear axle

in addition to better tires and wheels. The suspension of a Veloster turbo is on par with a Scion tC on TRD shocks with TRD springs.

>>17638791
>The suspension of a Veloster turbo is on par with a Scion tC on TRD shocks with TRD springs.
scratch that. The Hyundai is actually softer according to some reviews directly comparing them.

>>17638294
They absolutely dogshit. Even at stock power they wheel hop like a bitch and can't put power down

Get a Fiat 500 Abarth

Wanna know what else you can get for not much more? A Cadillac ATS

>>17638753
Cobalt SS is pretty stellar. I take it you also think the str4 Neon is garbage as well?

>>17638294

>>Intake
>>Downpipe
>>Intercooler
>>Tune
>>270 *B*hp
>>Not Whp
>>On a car where people already complain about horrid wheel-hop and torque steer

Do you now why they're so cheap? Because they're trash.

Just buy a Fiesta ST used for the exact same price. It's a vastly superior car.

>>17638871
Non-turbo maybe

>>17638294
I have a buddy who has one and it's honestly pretty quick. It's decently tight, the paddle shifters are the most responsive semi auto i've driven. The gauges look nice and the seats are decently comfy. Hyundai isn't bad. they're getting the rap japanese cars used to but now everyone says to buy a civic so take it as you will.

>>17638899
Nah the 2.0 turbos. The manuals only came with the 2.0, and look for the premium packages that add Brembo brakes and magnetic rode control

We're talking like $20k Canadian here, that's a lot of fucking car for the money. And don't even get me started on the aftermarket for that little 2.0

>>17638294

BTW, what do you mean "only"? You basically listed every bolt on mod possible short of a new turbo.

>>17638919
>And don't even get me started on the aftermarket for that little 2.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM9uqtgRLD0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP0xjs5BJvA

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Not the fastest. Not the steeringest.
But still very capable and not a completely boring box like all the rest of them.

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>>17638992
Non-Australia Edition.

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>>17638992
>still very capable and not a completely boring box
>>17639009
oh look. A better alternative

>>17638858
This, they go pretty cheap too

>>17639035
nice box

>>17638940
Jesus, Fat Marah's living up to his name in that second one, poor choice of jacket

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I used to own a 12' veloster, white with red black leather, was a pretty slick looking car. Lots of attention from it, from friends and randoms on the road. Pretty fun to drive too, but yeah it being stock it wasn't a race car or anything you could enjoy driving paul walker style.

MFW my brother and his friends would take it onto a main road near our house and they probably floored it and were disappointed by it, when I knew it wasn't anything fast and furious

>>17639384
Wasn't a turbo tho

>>17639405
Saw youtube reviews of the turbo, didn't seem anything drastic or improving from stock. Had way too much tire squeal and slippage when the reviewers gave it the foot.

>>17638294
Holy shit just buy a civic

>>17639426
Over a second faster and better suspension tweaks. The naturally-aspirated Veloster is completely irrelevant.

Jesus christ man, save up a few more shekels and just buy a used ecoboost Mustang if you're that desperate for a tuner car. You're going to spend $3000 to get all that work done and tuned properly just to get 270bhp and void your warranty?

An Ecoboost Mustang has 350bhp and 400ft/lbs with JUST a tune straight from Ford that's covered by the factory warranty AND it can actually put that power to the ground unlike your Korean crapbox. And you know what? You can find 2017's for $21,000 and that's BEFORE any negotiations.

>>17639602

The Turbo Veloster is completely irrelevant. This is one thing that isn't a meme - the car is SHIT.

>>17639657
Yeah bro. Completely irrelevant.

https://youtu.be/3ZbGdkyrAis

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>>17638294
These
>>17638871
>>17638919
>>17638940

Screenshot is Canuckbux too

>>17638319
yeah have fun pursuing that in court

>I want to finance a car bc warranty
>Proceed to mod and tune it
>Blows up
>Fucking stealership kikejews won't fix even tho I got the warranty
Stay dumb poorfags

>>17638881
It is.

>>17639826
All you have to do is unbolt all the shit you bolted on before going to the stealership.

Litterely anything except a lancer or a mini would be better

>>17639845
Probably not a good time to admit I'm looking at Cooper S's and Lancer Ralliarts too

>>17639669
>out accelerates an 86
Not impressed, a minivan can do that

>>17638294
Just get a 2013+ hyundai genesis 2.0t. 270 hp upfront.

>>17639686
I've only found 2 within 500 miles of me through autotrader and cars.com
One was a '16 for 28k and the other was a '14 for >17k
I guess they didn't make that many manuals

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OP here, the dealer convinced me to get a new Veloster instead. Just got it financed at 5% for 72 months. How did I do?

>>17640024
great deal op. Get a special prescription glasses to block red light so to not get blinded by every single taillight outthere.,

>>17638738
Colbalts are complete shit. Garbage interior design, garbage reliabilty. Only thing i liked about the one i used to own was the low end torque was better than the civic i owned. Which isnt saying much.

>>17640041
>cobalts are shit
>never seen a ss and only ever sat in his mommy's ultrabase pursuit

>>17640024

Nice bait post. 3/10 got me to reply.

>>17640048
Not to mention their ugly as shit. Sorry bout your colbalt bro.

>>17640094
Cool opinion

>>17638294
It does not feel nearly as sporty as it should. Its suspension sucks, its steering is numb, it doesn't feel like it has as much power as the numbers say it has, it's a disappointment. There's hope for the next one though, because the Elantra Sport actually feels decent (independent rear suspension FTW) so cars based on it will be fine.

That's a pretty good deal though, so I can't fault you for getting it. Just don't think of it as a hot hatch, it falls short of that.

>>17640145
>Cool opinion
How is that cool in anyway? >>17640041 is completely wrong about the Cobalt SS.

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>>17640291
>what is sarcasm

>>17640309
Oh shit sorry, English isn't my first language and sarcasm doesn't really exist in my country.

>>17638525
>>17638501
But one weekend in your driveway and the civic is a better car?

Focus ST is a much better car

>>17640322
What country is that?

>>17640349
日本人です

>>17640406
シボレーコバルトは日本で販売された?

>>17638294
My jetta goes faster than this piece of shit and it doesn't look like a croc either

>>17638294
Just buy a used Fiesta ST, that's a piece of shit.

>>17640406

ダイハツミゼットⅡを郵送せよ

>>17640598
You must have a GLI then, which is way more expensive.

VT gets near-Civic SI performance at a Honda Fit pricepoint. That's the appeal.

>>17640621
Would rather have a VT with under 20k miles than pay a g or two more for a FiST that's been hooned for 60- 80k miles.

>>17642068
>VT gets near-Civic SI performance at a Honda Fit pricepoint.
no it doesn't. Only in a straight line is it as good as a Civic Si. Throw in corners and the VT will eat a Civic's dust.

>>17642110
Civic SI: 26.9 on Motor Trend's Figure 8

Veloster Tarbo: 27.2

That's literally 1% slower. Big deal. Won't even notice that.

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/hyundai/veloster/2017/2017-hyundai-veloster-turbo-first-test-review/

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>>17642068
>>17642107
>>17642130
Seems you're hell bent on getting the velosturd, in which case I offer my condolences to your parents for your FAS

Or you're just baiting

>>17640633
Wat

>>17639669
You ACTUALLY think this is an accomplishment? This is metaphically clubbing a baby seal.

>>17642577
Poor 86, Subaru truly is the GM of Japan
>we mustu protectu WRXu!!!

Dude, just from the "counter arguments" you're posting and linking to it's painfully obvious that you don't have much experience with cars.

The only thing that the VT is good for is curb appeal and style and even that is subjective. It is a poorly made car designed to capture impressionable going tuner kiddies and apparently it's working.

It's bad because they basically took a shitty platform, added some half-assed "performance" parts to make it a bit better, and marketed it as a gofast car for young adults that looks kinda interesting. In terms of performance you can basically achieve the same thing by throwing an eBay turbo kit and a Chinese bargain bin coilover kit on the old been Elantra.

It's a bad car and it has nothing to do with 0-60 times or figure 8's, you bench-racing plebe.

But hey man it's your money - go ahead and spend $20k (because we know that you're also going to get knockoff wheels and "coilovers" for your Korean rice box) on a veloster turbo so you can hard park it at meets.

>>17642651
>The Accent is a bad platform
Except it's not. Accent is one of the most solid vehicles in existence.

Why on earth does one car make you so salty?

>>17642651
This man is mad as fuck that he gets btfo by Korean croc cars.

>>17642663
Maybe if you've only driven Chinese shitboxes you can consider the Accent good, but it's pretty bad compared to a Civic or a Mazda 3

>>17642681
>Mazda 3

Holy fuck are these overrated.

>>17642651
If Audi can tart up a Gallardo into an R8,
If FCA can tart up a Fiat into a Jeep Renegade,
If GM can tart up a Silverado into an Escalade,

then surely Hyundai can tart up an Accent into a Veloster.

>>17642681
I've driven all three, and the Accent is only shitty because of horrible engines

But isn't the Veloster based off the Elantra platform?

>>17642681
Perhaps in your fit of rage you forgot to realize that the Accent is a subcompact hatch akin to the Honda Fit and Mazda 2, and not either of those cars you just compared it to.

Why are you speaking on things you have no clue about?

>>17642737
Accent, but enough of that comparison. Comparing an Accent to a VT is like comparing a Camaro SS to a base ATS. Fuckin stupid.

>>17642748
But the Alpha platform is the best small car platform GM has ever made
Also the VT is a platform mate to the Kia Soul and the Hyundai i20, not bad company tee bee aitch

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I've got a 2013 VT.

Get the VT Rally edition. The suspension upgrade is VERY well worth it.

>>17642741
And yet even the Fir and Mazda 2 are better driving cars

The Fit is the modern day 90s Civic

>>17642748
this
>>17642754

Alpha platform is amazing. A 2.0T ATS would make a great handling tuner car

>>17642793
Do you regret it, or like it?

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>>17642826
I have consensual sex with her.

>>17642870
It's so hot in conventional colors. Hate that goofy Vitamin C orange and don't like red or yellow. Black, blue white or silver are best

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>>17642826
I love mine. Paid 10k for it.

Best economy car I've ever had. Everyone here who is going to tell you to get something else has never driven one. There's nothing better in that price point that comes with that good of a warranty, that good or mpg, and a balance of fun/economy driving. The FiST is the closests but Ford's warranty sucks and a 2015 is likely to be closer to 20k than 15k.

>>17642906
I test drove one and was pretty annoyed by the infamous side-rear blind spot. Maybe not as bad as the internet made it sound, but something to think about.

How have you dealt with that?

>>17642906
I drove one, they handle like ass and aren't particularly impressive economy cars

>muh warranty
This is why you get a Civic or an Accord, even out of warranty they won't let you down
I've owned an '09 Accord since brand new and I never used the warranty. Almost 10 years later it's still super reliable

A good warranty is nice to have if you're buying a high end German car

>>17638378
Slap an Audi badge on it and you might understand.

>>17642906
2017 fists can be had for 16k pretty much everywhere dude

>>17638881
>neon
>cobalt
>good

These are the people you are taking advice from on /o/

>>17643124
Fiesta is too small and has the shittiest interior. VT interior isn't magnificent but it's like sitting in a Lexus compared to a Fiesta.

>>17643148
Maybe the Lexus Prius

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>>17643148
Fist interior

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>>17643148
Vt interior

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>>17643156

>>17643144
>implying the Cobalt SS and Neon SRT 4 aren't still relevant
Why the fuck are you on /o/?

>>17643156
The ford looks way better dude, the vt interior is pretty much the same exact thing but uglier and more angular

>>17643124
Nope. Searched for well over a year in my area and 2016 fists wouldn't go below 17k.

I would know; I actually wanted a FiST instead but the VT was my 2nd choice.

>>17642917
Never been an issue once. I live in a very rural area. City driving is fine too.

>>17643227
Eh. VEloster interior has less matte plastic. They are both horribly cheap plastic interiors but if youre gonna use plastic at least change up the textures and colors of the plastic.

Also the Hyundai head units and software is generally better than the Ford/Microsoft bullshit.

>>17643415
sure but that whole vent/head unit/button group is absolutely disgusting, it doesn't look good at all

the ford isn't great either and you should have gotten a GTI

>>17643522
GTI is drab too. Everything is just softer. And I have a '12 Nkssan Altima.

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>interior complaints

Not the best, but not the worst. The upper part of the door panel should have been soft-touch like the lower part of the door panel, but beyond that, I have no complaints.

>>17643573
>willingly driving in Jew York

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>>17643559
I wouldn't call this drab, it's not the most exciting interior in the world but it looks sporty without trying hard as fuck like the ford and vt

>>17643601
>VW Golf
>has a golf ball shifter
Honestly didn't expect that

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>>17643591
It was fucking terrifying. Managed to get stuck within the city right around 5pm traffic when all the smart people are anxiously fleeing the city.

You could be 3 cars deep in line at at light and the fuck behind you will immediately lay on the horn the second the light turns green.

Saw a bitch in a Range Rover just drive fully on the fucking sidewalk because she didn't want to wait for a limo that was slowly pulling out of its parking space.

Everybody does 90mph on the Jersey Turnpike.

Never get gas in Jersey either unless you like waiting for some teen gas attendant to fill you up while snapchatting his boyfriend.

EZPass demands $15 tolls from you almost every two miles you drive.

I don't think I'm going back anytime soon, but the VT was a trooper through it all. Made good use of thr power. Used to have a base Veloster and I would have died in that car in New York.

>>17643752
What a nightmare