/hhg/

>>17445747
>a stripped out Volvo 244 weighs as much as a fiat 500
I really don't understand how a car that small can weigh that much, I don't fucking get it.

>>17445860
2,500lbs was more than I was expecting desu. I would have thought somewhere closer to 2,300 if I was guessing.

>>17445860
Italians are secretly the Americans of Europe. Also I imagine an archaic cast iron block doesn't help. Either way I enjoy mine and don't mind the weight, it still scratches my itch.

>>17445881
The Volvo is literally 4 feet longer and 3 inches wider, and it's the same weight
FOUR FEET LONGER

>>17445892
The Volvo is cast iron too though, and has a solid steel axle in the back, which the fiat does not, a fucking 300lb solid steel axle.

>>17445747
>customer asks me to check fuses on her Fiat 500
>we dont check fuses but fuck it, she looks like and has the same rocking tits as my old female bestie/FB
>wait for her dumb ass to find the hood latch
>pop hood
>...
>NOPE

Yeah, as much as I liked the idea of the 500 Abarth, I think I'd rather have a Fiesta ST

>>17445860
>comparing a brick from the 80s to a modern car with shitloads of safety equipment and amenities
Apart from being unable to drive at 50km/h you're also retarded.

>>17445906
>>17445898
Nobody's arguing with you dude, chill, we're all just as perplexed as you are.

>>17445929
Lol fiat fanboy from the last thread is back, does your mom know you're gay yet?

>>17445938
>does your mom know you're gay yet?
I thought being a degenerate furfag helped with those projections. Apparently not.

Get back to the driving school instead of shitposting, faggot.

>>17445956
Stay BTFO, stay made of lead

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Post your hatches boys

>>17445962
At the end of the day, I'm not the one jerking off to BBC wildlife and driving an 80s shitbox. So yeah, I'm pretty good "staying BTFO."

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>>17445978
Your car is just as slow and heavy as an 80s shitbox tho
>make the car fwd, it's lighter!
>still weighs as much as an 80 Swedish tank with a cast iron engine and a Dana 30 truck axle in the back that's literally four feet longer

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>>17445966
Cute cute, postin'.

Can we please just have a fucking hot hatch thread without it turning into another
>gay
>no u
shitfest?

>>17446058
That's a great color and a great view. I'm guessing some fun roads to get there?

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>>17445966

I miss the good old days of stripping the carpet and back seats out of a civic and getting that bitch down to 1500 pounds, throwing in some scuba tanks full of cheater gas and some underglow and calling it a day.

>>17446083
>that sign
fuckin keked, and nice car. Black?

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>>17446066
Thanks m8, yeah, pretty fun roads up that way.

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>>17446101
Yep.
The diner that sign is by is the only good thing about McCook.

>>17446117
Those small town diners always are. Almost seems like the cooks have been there as long as the restaurant too.
>>17446109
God damn living in Oklahoma is suffering. I'm the gray Abarth guy, and the only mildly fun roads around me are the few miles through the Wichita Mountains. Problem is they're generally crawling with rangers and tourists.

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>>17445966
Bully me, senpais

>>17446146
Is that a golf or GTI?

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>>17446135
Yeah, there are some highway patrol roaming the mountains, but mostly they just want you to stay safe.

Several points on that posted route have "proceed at safe speed" speed limits, which on state highways, unposted speed limits are 55mph.

It's a fun spot, but it's no comparison to the promised land.

>>17446166
I'm heading to 129 in August. How bad are the police? The advice I was given was drive 129 once, but there are better/less patrolled roads near by.

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>>17446163
Golf. Its just got an aftermarket grill from ebay because I'm a special snowflake
>mfw I get asked that question more often than I'd like

>>17446179
A rabbit or the 2.slow? I know the 2.5 can make decent power with some mods

>>17446135
Actually, the cook is some 30 year old Mexican dude. Motherfucker knows how to make eggs though so I'm not complaining.

>>17446187
It's a 2.5 but it needs a looooooooot of bodywork. Like, embarrassingly so. Ive also found out that those 2.5 blocks can make some good power though, but I wanna get it looking less like a shitbox first before I try to get it to go Sanic Fast.

Dont know if I'd ever commit to a turbo, though.

>>17446177
Just don't cross the double yellow line, and don't be an idiot and you shouldn't have any problems.

They know enthusiasts are there to have fun, they just want you to be safe. If you get to a point in the road where you can hit over 50 or 60mph, there's likely a cop waiting nearby. There's just too many curves.

The other roads are fun, but a bit sketchier. Honestly, there isn't a bad drive in the area.

>>17446177
I should also mention I was there for a few weekdays in the late spring, so your experience in August may differ slightly.

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>>17446216
I'm excited to check it out. Will be the first road trip in my car so we'll see how it goes.

>>17446211
Any rust? Or just cosmetic damage?

>>17446251
Cosmetic, thank god. I live in the southwest so my car's never seen salted roads. I'm 'mirin your R32, how is that AWD anyway? I always see anons memeing about haldex

Has there ever been a "sports hatch" that was built from the ground up as a fast car with a hatch, rather than a converted econobox with a turbo/badging/handling bits added on?

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>>17445966

>>17446306
That's part of the whole hot hatch thing though, is making econoboxes more fun. As to a purpose built performance hatch, not really sure, aside from some shooting brakes, though I'm not sure that would count.

>>17446284
It really just feels like awd. I'd be lying if I said I could tell the fwd bias. It isn't like my GTI at all which really feels like it is pulling me along. I have the UM tune so it is a little more aggressive than stock.

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>>17446306
>>17446368
I don't see why shooting brakes wouldn't count other than the rwd. The real shame is that there's almost no demand for 2 door hatches anymore when they're the only ones that look good.

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Only picture I have that doesn't show my pl8s. I like how other ST and abarth owners give the knowing thumbs up, though everyone else thinks we blow dudes.

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>>17447429
That's because everyone who hates on them has masculinity issues because their cousin Cletus made them touch his weiner. But I love my FiST so much fun

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I don't think I've ever actually taken a picture of my GTI... But it looks like this.

I'll have it paid off in 8 months... not sure what I want to get next.

>>17447469
Plaid or leather? Pls not leather.

>>17447479
It's the plaid. I wasn't thrilled with it at first, but I've come to like it.

>>17447469
What work have you done? Mk7 gti owner aswell.

>>17447495
2015 MK7

>>17447457
True. You dont buy these to impress people, that would be a mistake. You buy it for blasting through the twisties and listening to sweet sweet BOV sounds

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>>17447429
>>17447457

Max fun, bottom dollar, too much brake dust. Just bought mine last week, absolutely love it.

>>17447500
Mk7

>>17447500
Sorry 2016. Been a little drinksie, so my reading comprehension isn't at its best.

>>17447529
The brake dust breaks my soul, ive stopped cleaning my wheels daily after 3 weeks

>>17447539
Oh sorry, you asked what work.

I haven't done anything, I'm not going to keep it forever.

It's fun, but, over time, it turned out not to be as comfortable to sit in as it felt when I test drove it. Not sure how I fucked that up...

>>17447508
hell yes I installed the boomba BOV adapter just for maximum noise, makes me smile everytime I hear it when riding through the corners
>>17447529
Yea the brake dust makes me wanna cry everytime I go out for work in the morning and my entire rotor is orange

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>>17447529
>Brake dust blues
Super tempted to just throw different pads on.

Hawk sells ceramic pads that would cut down on dust.

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Pray for me, /hhg/

>>17445892
Italians are the NIgerians of Europe

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>>17445909
>not liking a car anymore based on the engine

>>17447962
Why doesn't Italy have migrant problems like the rest of Europe? They get to Italy and don't realize they've left the third world, so they keep going.
>>17447529
>>17447457
>>17447429
Amen. My Abarth was cheap, makes a good noise, is fun to drive, and it always puts a goofy smile on my face seeing another silly hatch going the other way.

>>17447741

That sucks bro. Super underrated chassis.

>>17447741
>almost bought one of these in high school
It hurts even from here Anon.

*fizz*

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>>17445966

Would any older hatchbacks make a good project car? I want to try reviving something and learning more about wrenching.

>>17450291
Unironically an old civic or a Metro

>>17450291
Sure man, almost all old hatchbacks are pretty neat. The mk1 GTI is iconic, mk1 Fiesta's are pretty cool too. Civics, geo metros, whatever. Don't expect it to be very fast (though they are light on their feet) and also know if you crash you'll likely die lol.

Thread isn't fizzling on my watch.

Fuck me I want a Fiesta ST but it's hard to justify the purchase. I can afford it I just don't need it.

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>>17445966
GTI reporting in. Not sure if keep it and fix it up or sell it and use the money for a Fiesta. It's such a fun car but it needs a lot of cosmetic work.

>>17450392
>metro
Why would you recommend a fucking metro, at least a civic is sporty, a metro is just shit.

>>17452173
metro isn't a hot hatch but it's a cheap hatch and they'll last for five hundred million miles. They're comfy smol boys, but every single one of them is in garbage condition with salvage titles so good luck finding a good one.

>>17452182
He just asked what would make a good project car, a civic would, a metro would not.

>>17450291
A 90's Civic hatchback or an early 2000's Civic Si. Or a Focus SVT. Good cars but most of them you'll find will have some poorfag ricing done to them. SVT's are kind of hard to find in general. I remember a while ago an anon bought an Si from an old man for $2500 and that is a lucky find.

Also Mk4 VW GTI's are absolutely everywhere and they're usually pretty cheap but they fall in the meh range of GTI's. Mk5's are still too expensive to recommend.

>>17452193
True

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Post hatchbacks that you a hot version of.

Fit Si never ;_;

>>17452243
I'm driving a 2nd gen Fit (2012).
If Honda made a Fit Si that doesn't look like a 16 year old boy's wet dream, I'd trade in on day 1.

>>17450448
>>17452193
>>17452212
I like the idea of a civic. I have a VW now and it would be fun to work on a Japanese car.

>>17452169
Just buy the FiST already.

>>17452872
knowing modern honda it would have that obnoxious body kit that the current Civic has.

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>>17445966
MS3/MPS reporting

I've heard that a rear sway bar upgrade does wonders to handling performance. Is this true?

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>>17445966
Dunno how much it'd count as a hot hatch cos it only has the standard 2.sl0w litre but yea

Atleast the engine is indestructible

>guy on Fiesta ST forum currently has 175000mi/281000km, almost half of it heavily modded
>never changed clutch, just spark plugs/coolant/tranny fluid

Gives me peace of mind. Why do people on /o/ like to talk about this cars supposed unreliability and then never back it up?

>>17447995

The engine is the car.

>>17453694
It's how it's always been, people claiming melting turbos or other nonsense without ever citing a source. It's been that way for at least the past 2 years on this board lol.

The Fiesta just seems to rub some people the wrong way. It has minor-to-no issues, can be heavily modded while retaining stock reliability.

>>17453356
Good looking little car in any case. I had an old Jetta with the 2.5 before I got my Abarth, and that thing was a dog. Always started though.

>>17453356
even the worst GTI's are better than 75% of other hatchbacks

>>17452934
whyyyyy did Mazda stop making these?

>>17455673
Likely because Ford sold their interest in Mazda so they went the same way as the rest of the Japanese manufacturers.

>>17453694
>>17455048

Yeah everything I have heard is that the fiesta st is surprisingly reliable even modded. There are some bad stories out there, but that is true of every car and maker. Coming from the 90's Nissan golden age scene myself, there are just lots of jdm/euro fanboys that WANT Ford's to be shit, even though they are absolutely killing it with performance trims on lots of models. Fun reliable and cheap, it's hard to justifiably shit on it.

>>17455700
Yea Ford has really turned their shit around and I'm actually proud to be a Fiesta ST owner. Coming up on 44k miles and absolutely no problems besides having to do basic maintenance and had to change rotors and pads recently because of the torque vectoring. But overall even with modding it's very reliable. /o/ is just a bunch of fags who can't handle that Ford is killing it.

Anyone have tyres other than Potenzas on the Fiesta ST? Any recommendations? Can get Goodyear Eagle F1 Asy 2 for less than the Potenzas. Wet grip is important as it rains 364 days a year here in Ireland.

>>17455726
As a FoST owner, I'm happy that ford is killing it with these, but I am concerned about the future now that the ceo responsible for all this got the boot.

>>17456031
I like my Indy 500 tires, best UHP grip both wet and dry. Where you live they might be called Potenza RE003.

That being said, always better to melt your stock tires at a track than sell them. Less grippy tires teach car control better, and torque vectoring can kick the tail out during hard cornering with them.

>>17456047
They're already fucking with the Fiesta ST for the 2018 model. 3 cylinders. What's THAT going to be like

>>17456069
It will sound better.
That's about it.
It's a silly choice from an enthusiast standpoint, And that's what these cars are marketed at so...why?

>>17456047
Yea of course after they make great strides they kill off the man responsible for it. Although I wanna believe in Ford I think it'll be bad.

>>17456090
I agree, though there is a guy waiting in the wings over there that wants to really stick it to GM, so I'm slightly optimistic.
Not that being optimistic has ever worked out for me.

>>17456067
Don't think we get them here. I won't be selling the tyres on the car, they're just due a change soon. I'm used to warm/hot hatches and that type of car control.

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>>17456297
Matches the cars personality perfectly, go for it.

>>17456314
Yeah I love it. Only problem is these tend to run more more expensive.

Is this a good price
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/6169481182.html

>>17456398
It's a 2013 mazdaspeed3 with 53 miles on it for 15000

>>17456405
53000* miles

>>17456297
Never actually seen it in person, and orange isn't my color but it looks fine.

People might actually know it's a color, rather than people with Molten Orange who have their car accused of just being race red all the time.

>>17456031
Depends what you want, I'm running a Comp-2 A/S on mine now.

I am debating between the outgoing Super Sports or the RE71R for a high performance summer tire.

I've heard good things about other tires, but those seem to be the consensus best (Haven't heard anything about Sport-4S yet though).

>>17456297
disgusting, Molten Orange was a million times better

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>>17456580
>Molten Orange

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>>17457049
>thinks red and orange are the same color

I'm trying to decide on an ST and GTI. I hear that Mexico sucks at making cars but the ST's got more power than a GTI, though I've seen an ECU tune that fixes that discrepancy.

I am negotiating via email right now on a GTI but the guy won't budge from 20.5k.

Any advice?

>>17456530
RE71R's are autocross tires, not daily driving tires. They make a lot of noise, get bad fuel economy, are horrible in the rain, and have terrible treadwear (200TW is a straight up lie), are best in hot temps, and aren't forgiving at the limit. They'll launch and corner better than literally anything that isn't a racing slick though, if that's all that matters of course.

Super Sports will almost certainly be enough. Pretty much the best performance tire all-around you can buy for a daily.

>>17457565
First off GTI has more power 210 HP while ST has 197, both are pretty amazing cars but it's all about whether you want a more comfy interior or a cheaper but more fun car. The ST has a great suspension set up for more spirited driving while GTI has a comfy set up hence why you always see normies driving them around. Either way both a bomb cars and both have a lot of aftermarket support it all depends on what you want personally. Plus the ST can be had for about 6k cheaper.
>t. Fiesta ST owner