/ORG/ - Off Road General (sometimes Overland)

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>t-t-t-toyota a shit
>I don't want one really

t. amerifat

>>17268224
>posts a .gif
>i wait there for 10 seconds for it to move
>doesn't move
y u do dis

>literal shitposting
KEK, that really is the best way to describe it. It's okay though, I know I'm cancer.

>>17268220
Thanks, I like to think I'm good at blending in. From outward appearances, I'm about as much of a normie as one can be. Full-time college student with two part-time jobs, still living at home because $$$.

>>17268215
The rear end of that thing gets less flex than the IFS of a 100 series.
independent>live axle XJ

Any socalfags going to June Hoon?

>>17240749

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>>17268230
i fell for it also anon.

>tfw suburban for sale near me
>112k miles
>1998
>K2500
>7.4 Vortec
Is it worth going back to shitty mpg? Been driving a 350 for years now and im ok with what i get. Are the 454s really that fucked?

>>17268630
enjoy your 8 mpg dicking

112k miles probably means the trans isn't two steps from taking a shit

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Can this be a niceposting thread?

>>17268630
>>17268670
The transmission will be fine, since it's a big block 2500 suburban it has the 4L80e which is one of the strongest and best 4 speed automatics made. All the hardcore 4wd builds use them behind their LS based engines

Is a brand new trd pro 4runner worth it or are they doing a redesign for 2018.

>>17268994
The current design is really fucking good. But i wouldnt pay the price they are asking for them.

Bomp

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>>17268994
>Is a brand new trd pro 4runner worth it
Fuck no

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>>17268958
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>17268708
>>17268958
You guys are just ruining the org threads.

Can a Subaru be a viable off-roader or do I need something else? Has to seat 4 with room in the back and okay fuel economy.

>>17270395
>viable offroad
sure. why not. they'll wear much quicker and will have much larger issues if you start to get "Frisky". But sure.
>do i need something else
>need
You never need anything unless you're doing shit for business / hunting to survive. But if you want to shuttle around four people, you might as well get a 4runner, exploder, D21, or something on those lines.

>>17268215
Hey guys. With all the night driving I do, I'm always scared of deer. Is it worth running my winch cable from the front of my bumper and connecting it somewhere in the bed of my trucc and tightening it up in order to possibly deflect a deer that may come through my windshield? Or is that just too autistic and wouldn't work?

I've been thinking of welding two metal bars in front of my windshield so that my wipers can still work but would protect against deer just in case. But that would also seem heavily autistic.

>troubles with aesthetic vs utility

>>17270241
The people who want nothing but to argue endlessly are ruining these threads

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>>17270656
>4chan
>not wanting to argue endlessly
r u fucking summer, fag?

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>>17270695
This place was so comfy and then people started arguing over several threads about the same shit

>>17268215
XJ, solid front axle yota> everything else
If you have an IFS yota I don't fuck with you sorry

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>filename

>>17270520
I already own a Subaru Outback, I'm just debating lifting it and adding skid plates, or picking up an already lifted Cherokee for the same amount and just keeping the Outback as a DD.

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am I /offroader/ now?

>>17271404
You're not gonna do much offroad with tires only.

>>17271379
sedan and wagon drivetrains were not meant to flex as hard as they should. definitely buy the pre lifted xj and using the subrau as a DD. or sell it for a high value and just drive the XJ around.

>>17271412
shit. I don't know how I missed that. I better go buy a truck

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>>17268215
Happy to see my baby on top.
(Pic is from Echo Canyon, Death Valley)

>>17270069
why?

>>17271359
So 40 year old rotted in half SFA Toyota is better than a tube buggy, just because it's a Toyota?

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>tfw can't go wheeling this weekend because I'm still fixing rust and constant rain keeps delaying it. I guess I could just power wash it again but after I found a drive in power washer that broke and got stuck on allowing me to completely clean the underside for half an hour for free I really don't want to fuck it all up.

>>17268300
Used to prefer square headlight 60's but I'm starting to like round headlights more

>not getting a clapped out rusted FJ62 for free from your parents and spending three years fixing most of the interior, repainting it, re arching the leafs and putting in new old man emu bushing and shocks, and a shitload other small details only for your gf to slowly destroy it all. After she influenced the destruction of the Impala in the pic lmao.

Kinda feel bad for my friend, but the damn thing just won't break under the amount of abuse it gets. She fuckin jumps the thing running down trails and she's barely even driven before lol.

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>>17271726
holy shit the mojave is green this year

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Working tonight...
Finishing up a couple of tasks on the project car, then rest of the weekend innawoods. Should be fun!

>>17271379
Generally the kind of off road driving that requires 4x4 and larger tires is going to be harsh on the drivetrain and suspension. Sedans and wagons just are not built to withstand that kind of abuse. Trucks and SUVs on the other hand, often are built in a way that holds up well to that kind of abuse.

I would not recommend using a Subaru for such things to begin with. But if you insist, I would highly recommend you only do so if you have a second vehicle to drive because you WILL break things. So if you're going to buy another vehicle anyway, you're best off using that one for fun and keeping the Subaru for a DD.

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>>17271838
Fun to see your photos and recognize EXACTLY where you are.
Try Lovell Canyon and take Rocky Gap over into Red Rocks.

>>17271884
i bet you know the exact route i take
i'm going to check out carpenter tomorrow and then try to find the mine in stewart valley on sunday
the last time i did that trail i had my lj
i'm curious how the ifs will handle it

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>>17271347
Heck of

>>17271359
Oh me, oh my, Cummy won't say nice things about my truck, what a shocking turn

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>>17271805
Imagine the bitchin rig you can build for $42k

>>17268215
>Underage kids posting pictures of Toyota and Lexus SUVs they [sometimes] own

How'd ya know anon?

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>>17268215
rate my ranger that I got for $2900

Installed:

new clutch
TOB
slave cylinder
master cylinder
front wheel bearings
front rotors
manual hub lockers
changed all the fluids

It also came with one of a kind visor that I can't find online as far as i have searched, a bed cap and 30s I think.

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>>17271726
>d Le
>>17271170
>>17271838
Why are you poor souls posting this DRY ASS TERRAIN?!?!?!?!

>desertfags don't got no water
>BASEDSWAMPATEER knows best
>*BanjoNOIsesIntesify*

>>17272033
You can probably sell the bed cap for like $500. Good deal, though. What engine and how many km?
How's the 4x4 system and other "features" for a 3rd gen?

>>17272051
Because wet climate spoops me now, hehe.

>>17272033
Looks mint, just need to slap some new aggressive tires on that bitch! 31x10.50s should fit...

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>>17272051
the mojave is god tier
>not having to clean four inches of mud cake

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>>17272077

unfortunately the 3.0 but I did the ignition coil, wires, plugs, cleaned the MAF and added new air intake filter.

It has the dana 35 upfront, and its a ttb.

Went wheeling and to my friends surprise it was extremely capable. Went down a couple of atv, dirt bike trails by accident and it did great + some climbs.

I need to get a 8.8 rear with the LSD though

Also it has no A/C like it didn't come with it as a feature but I have seen threads about making the A/C compressor into a on board air compressor so I am probably gonna do that in the future.

I also have a visor pic related that came with it. It was broken in 3 places where it joins the roof but I fixed it and painted it. It's pretty nice imo and like I said I can't find the exact one anywhere online but if someone could that would be cool. I am gonna mount it and put a 52 curved LED bar underneath it. I think that would fit it the best.

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>>17272093

I detailed it before the picture lol, it's awesome and its a 5 speed>>17272077

I bought a "roll bar" that goes in the bed for 50 and painted it. It's came out nice but I am deciding what I want to do meaning: do I mount the bars or the cap ?

It would look good either way but for wheeling/outdoor/fishing/cargo transport purposes I think the cap would be more beneficial as I can keep more stuff and keep it dry.

>>17272099
alternatively:
>having to clean four inches of mud cake
just run a sprinkler, senpai

>>17272132
Dana 35 is nice capable and has pretty good flex. I take Taynger (2010, 4.0, torsions +3 inchs) racing dirt bikes occasionally. She even fits through little ATV tree tunnels quite well and at good speeds. Manual hubs is nice, too.

You do not need the 8.8 with LSD. Coming from a guy with 8.8 opens.

You can rig up an A/C system through your back window for cheaper and wire that into your battery.

>>17272175
idk the 8.8 with the LSD is an easy swap and it has the 4.10 gears which I want for this so I can put on 33s/34s but then I have to put them in the front too so at that point I should just put in 4.56s instead of the 4.10s

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>>17271412
>he doesn't put mud tyres on his scooter and hit the BMX track

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>>17272193
That's your call to make. If you get the 4.56s, you'll go up tyre size and down gear size so could be worth that.

I also say that you don't need 8.8 LSDs if yours is capable enough. Save your money for a front swap instead (which will be much harder, of course) and a few other accessory items. Front can fit 33s but you'll get a shitload of rubbing. Lift on TTBs may not be worth it if you can just use the money for the solid swap.

>>17272159
I routinely switch between the cap for sleeping / playing, gullwing toolbox for work, and open bed for deliveries. You could benefit from the bar but as long as you're not driving high speeds and flexing, the cap would be much more useful.

IF you do, make sure to get a rubber or plastic seal around the bed's walls in order to actually "keep things dry".

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>>17272051
I don't like mud, i try to avoid it. Sand out here ends up like clay when you go through it, and it takes a couple days with a pressure washer to get it all off.

Besides, jumping over sand is more fun than slogging through shitty mud

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>>17272237
That's because you don't get paid for it :^)

>>17272272
M8, I'd run butt naked into a cactus if I got paid enough, but that doesn't mean I enjoy it

>>17272175
i don't have a sprinkler or hose or any outside water source that allows cleaning mud of my heap
>innacity blues

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>>17272175
I don't really care for A/C

And I have the open 7.5 rear end. I got stuck in a clay/sandish corn field for like 15 minutes. I need an LSD famalamalam.

>>17272217

I want to lift the ttb, it's pretty gud imo

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>>17272421
>>17272421
>I need an LSD famalamalam.
why, famalamadingdongbodiggityshiggitybopboodop?

If you're going to do a swap, why not put something with rear E lockers in them already? Also, I've found that LSD is more difficult to deal with slipping hill climbs. Better for on the road but open has been better for off road (at least for me) manual hill climbs. Free spinning on an LSD may have made that clay worse. Get bigger, thicker, and better tyres and you should be able to fix it.

Also I see those KO2s on that Rangy. Have them on my Land Cruiser. I'd recommend Duratrac simply because of comfy. And plus it can match your Duratec engine, heh.

Remember the different levels of recovery:
>2wd until you can't
>4wd-l
>activate lockers
>traction aid or shovel and 2nd gear
>airing down to 10psi
>winch
>sleeping the night and waiting for the ground to solidify

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I got my big boy tires on today

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>>17273051

>>17273051
>>17273057
post front and rear bumpers

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Anyone else got some trips planned for this weekend?

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>>17272421
>LSD famalamalam
My LSD proved useful last winter, would recommend.
>tfw no ttb
Not a good feel.

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>>17273366
No

>>17272272
Stop putting your dashcams in the middle of the windscreen like a fucktard.

>>17272421
>famalamalam
You know, instead of trying to evade word filters, you could try to avoid talking like a nigger.

>>17274732
>t. superior nigger

>>17274732
>im black
No one cares bro.

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>>17274308
>Stop putting your dashcams in the middle of the windscreen like a fucktard.
hmmmmmmm........

>>17273051
>>17273057
km2's? looks nice man

>>17274308
I'm waiting for my second one to arrive to make them permanent. Right now, they have to be easily removed and switched between two vehicles

I kind of want a dashcam for when I go off-road. Anyone have any recommendations? Also how would I mount it so it doesn't vibrate like crazy on a trail?

>>17275792
Just mount it like normal and air down a little, the sidewall flex will soak up the vibrations.

>>17275792
ram mounts are the best option they are solid as a rock
bit on the expensive side though for a mount

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>>17272033
what the fuck is that spoiler shit in front?
whats wrong with americans when it comes to pickup front ends?

>>17271805
its worth it, its more expensive than their opponents but it wont depreciate or fall appart in 15 years like the rest

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>>17276949
nah, we have that figured out

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>>17276949
are bug deflectors not a thing in other countries?

>>17276949
"Downforce doesn't exist"
-Crownon

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>>17276949
>>>only pickup front ends
>>>only americans
all modern cars

>>17276949
That's called an air dam, it reduces drag on the underside of the vehicle by reducing the amount of air that goes under, increasing top speed and fuel economy. Also gives a very very slight amount of downforce.

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>>17273366
i love the mojave

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>>17277827

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>>17276961
agreed

>>17277827
>>17277865
looks comfy as fuck, dude

>>17278014
the vast openness is always impressive
beautiful region

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>>17278391
>wide open spaces

>>17277827
aw. it looks like a cute little Wall-E that is saying "I'm just happy to be here"

Land Cruiser looks perpetually upset.

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What is the best off-road 4WD and why is it the Defender?

>>17278481
Best for what? Mudding? Sand Running? Hill climbing / descending? Rock climbing? Overlanding?

Best off-road 4WD during what period, location, and time frame?

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>>17278544
>Mudding? Sand Running? Hill climbing / descending? Rock climbing? Overlanding?

All of them
Maybe not Sand

>>17278544
They're pretty good driving over a curb on the way to the shop, other than that I wouldn't recommend one

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>>17278567
>This person owns a Jeep

>>17278553
The stock defender is 4500lbs. Mudding is meh.

Rock climbing, overlanding, and hill climbs / descending is a yes. Especially overlanding since this thing pulls off the "cube" design for maximum space efficiency without being autistic like the Scion or Nissan.

Sure, the old Defenders are great. But gas mileage (and therefore range) and highway and daily efficacy is pretty difficult to back up. So they never made them for the US/Canada market for that raisin.

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>>17278578
I do? News to me (though I'm always on the lookout for an M715 for the right price)

>>17278582
>But gas mileage (and therefore range) and highway and daily efficacy is pretty difficult to back up. So they never made them for the US/Canada market for that raisin.

An imported Land Rover will find it harder getting parts and mechanics compared to a Jeep/Chevy etc.

>>17278602
A stock Land Rover Defender (a new one, anyway) will have the same people buying them as the MB G-Wagons. Have a dedicated mechanic and they will never even pop the hood of their vehicle once.

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>>17278481
Funny, that doesn't look like a 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner SR5 with a Vision 600 fiberglass camper shell and TrailGear front tube bumper

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>>17278725
>mfw
>says he hated pointless arguments
>'bout to initiate one himself by responding to one
s t e p d o w n

>>17278725
>muh 2WD

>>17275792
Got the Street Guardian Pro V2, as for mounting it so it doesn't vibrate, good luck with that. At least the inbuilt sensors can distinguish between a serious bump and a minor one otherwise this would be going off all the time.

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>>17278725
>Prerunner

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>>17278725
>Toyota

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>>17278444
you're right
it does kinda look like wall-e

>>17279811
where was that picture taken senpai

>>17274732
Sorry I was not aware that I entered the no fun zone.

And I have never heard a black person say that but a o k

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>>17280369
It's 4chan, famalamadingdongobodongoshippadoopybodiggityduggityboop

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I live in the Rockies and have nowhere decent to off-road

>>17270539
The only problem here is that your truck isnt high enough.

>>17280438
This is shit tier bait...

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>>17280438
back to /b/ with this shit

>>17280517
Then my fuel economy dies.

>>17280567
>>17280582
What I meant was there are no offroading trails or spots near me, nobody really does any off-road except for driving on abandoned logging roads.

>tfw spic on craigslist said he would hold truck for me today
>get text this morning
>SOLD
>tfw no 1994 chevy 2500 with great mileage for great price
Im fucking mad.

>>17280657
if you really wanted it, you would've moved mountains to buy it immediately

whatever you did yesterday probably wasn't worth it

>>17278908
Tay you know better than anyone that I realize my truck's obvious limitations

>>17280438
Where in the Rockies? We have a few guys in CO that could tell you where to go wheeling

>>17280613
oh gotcha
where do you live?

>>17280695
Well im not a nigger so i decided i should go to work. We had opposite schedules.

Has anyone here ever plasti-dipped anything? I'm considering plasti-dipping my Jeep but I have no experience with that stuff.

>>17281103
Spray it on heavy, or you won't be able to peel it off later.

>>17281103
Parts of my mirror housing, a grille and a few wheels

Clean whatever you're dipping properly with citrus cleaner, surface cleaner or whatever.

Apply a thin, complete layer
Add another layer when first one is relatively dry, but thicker
Add another, same procedure and thickness
Repeat
Repeat

I recommend atleast three layers to get it more solid. Be careful with degreaser and other washing solutions for the first week

>>17281103
A friend of mine did the wheels on his dodge. Seemed simple enough.
>>17280994
Happens to the best of us. Keep lookin.

>>17281114
>>17281115
Thanks for the tips!

>>17281123
I'm tempted to plasti-dip the whole thing. I hate the color of my Jeep (silver) but painting it would be so expensive and way too permanent, especially for an off-road vehicle thats bound to get scratched anyway. A friend recommended plastidip and I had never considered it.

Still feels kind of extreme but I've seen people do it to their whole paint job and it looks amazing on a Wrangler if done well.

>>17281143
What about those car wraps. I dont think its that expensive. That shit that heat shirks around the whole car. People use it for advertising and such. Probably alot more durable than plastidip.

>>17281172
I believe it's more long-lasting but also more expensive and harder to spot-repair any scratches in it. I'm open to that too, though.

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>>17280239
Killbourne hole in southern NM

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WILL SOMEONE BUY THIS PLS

https://richmond.craigslist.org/cto/6136612408.html

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>>17282194
>460/c6
>not rollin coal like a good southern boy

just kidding, that interior and underbody looks great for a 27 year old truck.

>>17282270
that thing is rare as fuck too

>implying my dick can even handle a 4 door bronco

>>17278481
Sorry mate, but a vehicle renown for not only lunching gearboxes, but also requiring complete interior removal and and engine crane for swapping a gearbox does not make for a good offroader in my eyes.
Combined with 10/24 spline axles, axle housing tubes that fall out of the diff pumpkin with little force and underwhelming aenamic engines (gimme a 200/300TDi though) there's not really any redeeming features. A Landcruiser is better in almost every literal objective measure. Hell, with the exception of omitting a diesel option the Rubicon Unlimited is a better option.

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>Patrols with turbo Detroit/Chevrolet diesels
Mah dick

>>17282526
what engine?

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>>17277827
Mojave is indeed great

>>17283131
6.5
While there's not really much to be gained over the Nissan TD42, the GM diesel is often used to change out bricked ZD30 and RD28 powered Patrols. Commonly chucked in non turbo diesel Landcruisers too.

>>17283196
Intresting. I thought the 6.5 was shit though? I always see them shoved into non running craigslist adds.

>>17283222
Depends what you mean by "shit". By IDI mechanical injected 2 valve diesel standards they're still perfectly competent motor. And although they lack the support of say the 12V Cummins brigade, they have the advantage of packaging size and weight, which makes them a popular choice for non factory engine conversions.
If you compare them to modern common rail 4 valve offerings they look sub par, but then so do the Ford and Cummins engines of the time too.

>>17283222
The 6.5s 'were shit' because they were built for fuel efficiency, not performance. They make sub-par power for their age and size, but they're still fantastic motors for what they were built for, which is moving around a large vehicle that's not towing, and getting excellent fuel economy in the process. Stick them into a lighter chassis and they feel sportier because muh power/weight.

>>17283222
A good percentage of them have a casting defect on cylinder 7. It's essentially unrepairable if that defect cracks, but the blocks are like $150 at a junk yard, so who gives a fuck?

What do yall do for power when camping?

I usually go rent a camper close to where I'm going to camp, and I use some piece of shit generator thats loud as fuck and pisses everyone off.

I'm thinking about getting a small diesel out of a car and attaching it to the generator unit with reduction so it can sit at 1500rpm, and just stick a million mufflers on it.
Ideally I want to run it all night long without disturbing others so I can run the A/C.

>>17283837
>camping near other people
How about actually camping? Keep the loud generator, maybe put a muffler on it if it pisses you off too. Drive out to somewhere remote and sleep in your truck.

>>17283837
I hope you get eaten by a fucking bear.

>>17283980
seconded.

>>17283983
y so aggression.

>>17283980
I usually camp near others because that's just the rules of the park.

>>17284035
So go somewhere else.

>>17284069
Meh, I live in California, and just BLM lands allow camp anywhere, but I'm far from those, closest is cow mountain I think, but its so far.

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>>17284035
We have a ranger here near a provincial park (any area that isn't swampland in the Canadian shield is a provincial park or private property) that drives his 2wd Ranger to the front and back of the "park trail" until he can't. He does it twice a day issuing camping tickets for the provincial park not in camp spots and once we asked him "So where can we camp if there are no designated areas"?

He responds with: "anywhere I can't take my truck, really".

>>17284086
>>17284090
'Murican National Parks allow camping anywhere, as long as you've paid your admission.

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>>17284111
Canadian parks don't require admission but camping requires a pass.

>>17280781
Montana, West of the divide

>>17283837
>needing power for camping

>>17283837
Seriously, get a Honda copy 1-2KVA inverter generator. Don't fuck around with diesel gensets unless you need upwards of 10KVA.
Me personally, I run a dual battery with a 120 amp hour deep cycle battery as the auxiliary. Keeps my 110L Waeco running as a fridge for 3 days straight in 80 degree days. If I'm not moving for a week I'll start and idle for half an hour each day.
Just get an automatic isolator solenoid that connects both batteries once your main battery reaches a pre set voltage.

>>17284519
The weekend warrior who's roughed it for a couple of nights and knows everything about camping

so why is automatic better?


actually not trolling. i drive an auto cherokee 4x4 btw

why better than stick for offroad?

>>17285171
This? May as well post too, just bought an auto 4x4 99 XJ sport with only 143k on it, all stock. Am really excited, gonna fix the body rust, do a 4" long arm lift, bars front and back, fab a roof rack etc.. everyone is shitting on jeeps I'm hoping just because jeep owners are just meme douches, is there anything actually wrong with offroading and dd performance?

I'm aware of the death wobble and I can deal with that, anything else tho?

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>>17285392
>is there anything actually wrong with offroading and dd performance?

No.

>>17285455
Not a problem. Unless you are getting single digit mpg.

>>17285585
Avg 15 mpg

>>17285623
Nice.
>tfw 454tbi good gas mileage never fucking ever.

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>>17285655
The tires, gearing and way you drive make a huge difference.
I run 33x10.5 tires with 4.88 gearing.
Go to a 33 x 12.5, or 35 x 12.5 & mpg will suffer.
Some will say the 4.88 is too deep for 33s but they are wrong. It's perfect.
At 2800 rpm I'm running about 75-78 mph on the highway. I try to drive smooth and stay below 3000 rpm unless I need to.
Distances are big in the West and I make frequent long highway hauls between wheeling adventures.
20 gallon tank and I reset trip indicator on fill up. I typically get 300 miles before re-fueling. Lots of off-roading and that drops to 280 or less. Easy driving can raise it to 320.
I always carry fuel if wheeling.

>>17285455
>>17285724
I always have liked the boxy look of the xj Cherokees. Theres one for sale near me. '92 Cherokee limited with 125k miles. Dont really know what to look for in jeeps though.

>>17285780
Rust mostly, pretty sure they're made from deactivated rust instead of steal, add a drop of water and boom rust. The major downfalls are comfort, fit and finish, they ride like a utilitarian vehicle. They're just not "nice" vehicles. They're capable, with bulletproof engines, and the aftermarket is MASSIVE. Oh and they're dirt cheap and easy to work on. Those are the reasons people love them.

I'm 8.8 swapping my Jeep, should I get a factory limited slip axle, or avoid/not bother?

>>17286228
my open diff. has felt much better than LSD
but that's because manual hill climbs are better for controlling torque.

a few people feel better about LSD on automatic but i can't speak on their behalf.

>>17286228
Get an open diff version, then install an Aussie locker, don't listen to the faggot who thinks open diffs are good. The factory Ford LSD isn't that great, but the Aussie locker is tits.

>>17286456
Only poor fags think open diffs are better than a locking or limited slip diff.

>>17284841
The fat old redneck whose idea of camping is sitting in his RV at a truck stop with other fat old rednecks.

>>17285824
Mine has a lot of rust (eastern canada); I'm new to "doing it right" so my current plan is to go down to the US, get all new doors from a junk yard for $75-100 a piece and swap 11am and come back up and repaint the whole thing. Not gonna bother swapping the rockers, just gonna fab some rock sliders out of tubing and attach directly to the frame in lieu of rockers.

I am so so worried about my frame, I know it's in great shape but I have to lift it up asap so I can clean the small amounts of rust appearing and paint the shit out of it.

My rear leafs are beyond shot, actually inverted, so instead of the junkyard lift I was gonna put together I may as well get a lift kit with all new parts and treat her right

>>17285780
You need to look into which transfer cases came on the XJ and make sure you are getting a locking transfer case. Without it you are basically faux-4wd and will never climb a hill or pass through a mud or sand pit. It's possible XJ all have locking xfer case, idk, I have a ZJ

If you plan to lift it and enhance offroad capability you can plan on replacing pretty much all suspension components. Springs & shocks, control arms, track bars, sway bar end links w/ quick disconnect (or remove sway bars completely, leave them off)

With a locking xfer case they are already extremely capable in stock suspension form though

Just like any car at 25 years old and 125k miles you can plan on replacing quite a lot of accessory related components... belts, pulleys, alternator, ignition stuff, etc.

The 4.0 itself is pretty much bulletproof, but rev it out when you test drive it just to make sure it isn't fucked

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>>17287122
>tfw mall crawlers always put the biggest tire they can fit under the wheel well
>not understanding how suspension works
>gimping your machine this severely

classic poser faggot

>>17287137

>being this fucking ignorant

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>>17287153
>7" lift
>reduce articulation to 3"
>stuff tire and get stuck going over a curb

okay

>>17287174

>still showing off the fucking ignorance

please just shut the fuck up so you dont make an even bigger idiot of yourself

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>>17287216
>still posting literally nothing

>>17287221

just shut the fuck up instead, you are clearly completely ignorant to the topic

>>17287225
>reduce 14" articulation to 3"
>poser post his pose
>gets btfo
>waaahhhhhh babyrage

>>17285724
>2800rpm cruising
Since when is that acceptable? I cruise at exactly 2k at 70mph. Muh 18mpg with a 318.

>>17287233

its made for driving on deep snow, not rock crawling you ignorant fucking idiot

fucking idiot liberals

>>17287174
>not realizing that its meant for traversing snow/ice
>not realizing that the tire size it for spreading the weight over a larger patch
>not realizing tires that size could save your life when you find a hidden crevasse while crossing the tundra
>not realizing this Rover will forever be more off road than you could ever hope to be

>>17287241
>driving in deep snow is always flat
>i dont need articulation

HAHAHAHA how much did you spend ruining your machine?

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>>17287251

you are 100% completely ignorant, you do not know what the fuck you are talking about when it comes to offroading in any way shape or form

>>17287251
Driving in deep snow IS always flat, as long as you're not sinking. And if you are sinking, your rig is shit.

>>17287264
>can't articulate a concept
>just like his ride can't articulate its suspension

pottery

>>17287301
>tfw mall crawling in the snow is always flat

go on, im listening

>>17287304

you didnt see me articulate a concept because i didnt attempt to, as it is pointless.
im sure you know more about snow wheeling than arctic trucks on iceland who only make mallcrawlers after all.

>>17287137
>>17287153
>>17287174
>>17287216
>>17287221
>>17287225
>>17287233
>>17287241
>>17287251
>>17287264
>>17287304
>>17287313
>>17287333

At this point I'm not sure who's baiting who

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>>17287333
i have never been to iceland, but i guess if the entire island is like a mall parking lot you boys are on the right track

seems boring, but i guess you are stuck with what you got

>>17287359
Iceland is green, Greenland is ice.

>>17287385
i guess he meant "iceland" as "icey land." at any rate, its still a fucking severely gimped machine. needs fenders severely cut out or removed entirely to function on anything but flat land

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMMwPkXVPKw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xJWBzSNdOo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI0zqCOrRS4

not that green

>>17287415
>the entire island
Pretty sure he was talking about the island country of Iceland

>severely gimped
It's designed to run on snow/ice and only snow/ice. It's not supposed to run on anything that's not flat.

>>17287264
>>17287246
>>17287122
It's alright fellow norway.

I don't expect them to understand. I like your rig, tho.

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>>17287342
no joke

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>>17286851
Too late, couldn't find a open carrier with 4.10s anyway.
It's a 4L10 8.8
>>17286456
It's an auto.
I may just weld it or rebuild it at least, if it doesn't involve pulling the carrier

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>>17287567
Nice. How much are those going for nowadays?

I can only tell about experience from manual transmission in 2wd and 4wd-l in an open diff. And being able to shift power accordingly has been more helpful than a freespinning LSD that another one of my friends has (well i just met him at a gun shoppe but i guess i can call him a friend)

Rebuild it. But why weld it? Are you not using it for occasional mall-crawling (pavement driving)?

>>17287614
It was like $130, but everything was half off at the junkyard.
It's got D35s in it now, but I want to run 33s, so I'm going an 8.8, and also 4.10s over 3.73s to help the lil L6.

I'm doing a full junkyard lift, as cheap as possible, so naturally, welding it is the best for the budget.

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>>17287122
Ey, I recognize that one and its genius homemade tire pressure system

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>>17286228

I also have an 8.8 in mine with an ARB locker.
Go open & install a locker now or later.

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>>17287654
Wow yeah. That's a no brainer.

Rear on 33s fit in easily. No leaf addition needed. Front will benefit from two or three inches of lift by bending the TTBs a bit higher. Thank god you don't have the torsions. Might be able to disk them but they'll fit 33s without lifts (you just either trim the fender or deal with the fender rub)

>>17287675
>mfw
>Tananger
holy fucking shit.
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>>17287705
Did you do the install yourself?
What kit did you go with?

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>>17285724
>33x10.5 tires with 4.88
agreed
this is what i run
i was going to go to 35's but found that the 4.88 didn't do a whole lot to mpg's
so i just stuck with the 33's
altering the way you drive has the biggest affects to mpg's imo

>>17287724
I'm doing a ZJ, coil front and rear.

I've got front springs off a WJ with the upcountry package for the rear, and I found some aftermarket lift springs out of an XJ for the front.
In total, I'm expecting 4-5 inches depending if I can get the factory spacers in. Going custom lower control arms in the front, and I have not engineered the rear yet, but definitely custom lowers and maybe uppers as well.

I'm also going to get a D35 High pinion out of an XJ with 4.10s as well to try and help pinion angle so I hopefully don't have to turn the mounting brackets and knuckles. Otherwise, that's a direct fit I believe. Gotta pay ~$700 though for some chromo shafts eventually.

How rare were the K2500 6.5 Suburbans? Havent been able to find one for sale.

>>17287853
Not exactly rare, but uncommon enough and good enough that most of the ones that are still around aren't up for sale.

>>17287886
Figures. Even found a 2 door Tahoe with barn doors and a 6.5. Still havent found a damn
Suburban.

>>17287921
Have you considered getting a newer 'Burb and doing a Dmax swap?

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>>17287705
Is that Bromaro's old XJ?

Looks super similar

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>>17287955
bhomst?

>>17286892
>resorting to ad hominems
Good to see I struck a cord

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>>17287969
lolwut

>>17287936
Nah. Its just going to be a toy so i wanna be as cheap as possible. Plus i love that body style. A 94 k1500 5.7 is my dd.

>>17288019
>chord
FTFY

>>17285780
Both the other replies are good, also the radiator and heater core should be replaced.

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>>17288513
You're telling me, had to do the heater core this weekend. It's certainly not a fun job.

>>17288454
retard

>>17288550
Holy shit a rad swap I can handle, but I am not at all interested in doing all THAT. Is the heater core swap just for actual cab heat? Because I can just tough it so long as it's creature comfort and not engine health.

I realize I sound like a pussy but I just got my baby I don't wanna risk stripping her down and fucking something unrelated up just yet

>>17288550
>going through literally THAT for a fucking heater core
id probably just put on an extra jacket desu

>>17288772
Not the guy your yakking with, but >Is the heater core swap just for actual cab heat?
Yes...>Because I can just tough it so long as it's creature comfort
Really? What are you gonna do when it -30C? Cause that's aweful cold...and you need that heat to defrost the windows, so you can see where your driving...

>>17288772
It also leaks coolant into the cab, which gets vaporized and you breath it, and also rusts through the floor pan. Guess you could bypass it, but no defroster on chilly days even in places like Florida. Or rainy days.

>>17288790
That's fine for the cold, but doesn't stop the above. Also risking low coolant on already brittle heads. And for the record, the heat worked fine, but was rotting my floor pan, poisoning me, and don't get me started on hot rainy days.

>>17288454
Thnx babe
>>17288743
>>17286892
Nice try

>>17288743
>not knowing what a chord is

>>17289026
np daddy

>>17288550
Holy shit. That fucking blows. Is removing the entire dash really nesessary?

>>17287744
Hello friend. Enjoying the trip?
The "black stripe" heading toward Pahrump from Shoshone on 178.
You're making me miss the desert.

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>>17289066
Yeah, there's really no way around it. It's not as bad as you'd think, especially because most of the screws are the same. The real bitch is getting the HVAC box unbolted. All in all the only thing I fucked up was one vacuum actuator line that I let slip inside the box while putting it back together. Couple minute panic then took it back apart got the piece and used heat shrink tube to fix it. Mind you this was all on the bench before any major reassembly.

>>17287955
Nope. It's mine. I'm the second owner.
I bought it off a very anal German Engineer in San Jose 10 years ago

Is going offroad in a 454 a noticable difference/upgrade compared to a 350?

>>17289106
hey man
it's been great the peace and quiet is definitely good for the head
that's it! you know the route well sir
heading back to the peninsula tomorrow : (

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>Greetings from comfi camping innawoods

>>17287853
They're pretty rare. I had to hunt for quite some time before I found mine and that was 5 years ago. Not sure how the market is now...

>>17284111
>>17284090
>>17284153
When you coming to Michigan Tay? Michigan state parks require no camping passes!

>>17289291
uh what are you building, a trophy truck?

when you have a 4-low option you really don't need any power at all. 100 hp 4 cyl will do fine for anything

for most purposes except actual racing, no, it won't make any difference at all

>>17289066
Not necessary at all, cut a hole in the firewall side around where the heater core likely is, and remove it and put the new one in.

>>17289291
on rocks and trails, no.
When in mud, snow, or sand, yes.

You also should make sure your cooling is sufficient.

>>17289400
4Low is for cucks. 513s, and 400HP is all you need.

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>>17289380
that looks mighty fine man
do you fish?

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>>17289521
>4Low is for cucks
you can't be this ignorant
can you

>>17289652
I usually don't even have it in 4WD when I wheel.

What, you think crawling over rocks is the only kind of off road?

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>>17289496
I know you joke, but I considered it. Though due to the plumbing you'd have to cut from the AC lines to within an inch of the brake booster and down to the trans tunnel. Fuck reality.

>>17289719
Shit, thats retarded, usually they are perpendicular to the firewall, and you can just cut a slot the size of the side profile.
At Least in my experience anyway.

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>>17289738
It's actually mounted like this if looking at the firewall from engine side, but still bullshit.

>>17289380
Speaking of going innawoods in Michigan, know any good trails in the southeast quarter of the LP? I don't have a rig yet, but when I do, I'll want to take it innawoods without spending a small fortune on fuel.

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>>17288026
Liked the photos you posted, XJ/friend.

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>>17289301
Roger that my friend.
I miss the peace and quiet.

>>17289897
>them fake dunes

>>17290039
Yup. Painted them myself.

fucking shop cat and blue xj are the same guy...

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>>17290279
yes

and?

>>17290290
Sorry I never made the connection

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>>17290312
that's fine.

have a nice week, anon

>>17290320
night, tay

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Thinking of getting pic related been trailing with my buddy and he says jeepos always wuss out what am I getting into?

>>17290876
Those early 4runners are pretty cool. Love the removable tops. Go for it.

>>17290876
How much is he asking for it?

What does /org/ think of the nissan xterra?

Seem to be pretty cheap 4x4s.

>>17291434

does it have a proper transfer-case?

>>17291351
You know damn well it's way too much.

>>17291599
Oh I know that, that's why I was asking cuz he didn't show the price, probably asking 8 grand... LOL

>>17291351
He's asking for 6 grand with 262k miles

>>17291932
What a fucking rip off, fucking Toyota meme tax. It wouldn't be worth that with 100k less miles...

>>17291932
2000 dollars is as much as he should get for that. Jesus Christ 6k dollars, maybe he means 6k pesos, seems more realistic... LOL

Do you guys consider sidebysides in here? Just went on a trip with my buddies rzr and it was a lot of fun, thinking of getting a used Polaris ranger now (fuck spending 12k+ on a rzr when I'm just learning off road)

>>17291961
>>17291971
My bad 5 grand but it's a 85 so the miles add up the description says he's redone a bunch of things 7k miles ago but ill take ur guys' advice on the memetax

>>17291961
>>17291971
What no. that's a first generation. It has a manual and prelifted so it's worth the $5k simply because of the heightened resale value and rarity and prelifted. Plus the guy seems to know what he's talking about.

A bronco or k5 in a similar condition (very good and rock guarded, lifted, and maintained) would be an okay deal for this price.

>>17292061
Are these really worth the prices can I get anything similar for cheeper all the first gen 4runners in my area don't go under 4k and if they do they have a "easy fix problem no big deal"

>>17292130
There is a tax for a reason and it's up to you to decide on its worth. If you have the money, then get it to join the club of TayYoda circlejerkers in your area.

>>17292130
They aren't worth it, Toyota owners are insufferable faggots, although in their defense they're probably a step above JK owners. Buy a K5 or older Bronco to get a capable 4wd with solid axles, V8 and large aftermarket.

>>17292130
Also K5s and older broncos have the removable tops just like first Gen 4runners if that's your thing. 4" lift and 35" tires will fit well on both. Plus most come with 35" tires and lifts already installed.

>>17292285
>>17292297
Im probably leaning towards Toyota because easy fix plus probably getting better mileage on it

>>17292285
Pretty much this.

But they're all nice people and 90% of tay yoda offroaders are obese white males so at least they're chill.

Bronco and K5s (and especially ramchargers) are another great buy.

>>17292130
K1500 Tahoe.

>>17292341
Well Toyota isn't always easier to fix, smaller engine compartment makes working on them a little more cramped. But I can't argue with the better fuel mileage... Ha

Also you really can't go wrong with a solid axle truck/SUV.

>>17292285
your bias is showing, insufferable cunt

>>17292341
better fuel mileage means better additions until you get below 10mpg

do whatever you want

>>17292367
Oh did I offend the Toyota faggot?!

Maybe go suck come more Jap cock to make yourself feel better...

>>17292367
And yes I am biased, biased towards buying superior vehicles for less money than the overpriced Toyota shit.

Once big tires and a lift are added to any vehicle the fuel mileage suffers. The bigger V-8 engines really come into their own then since they have the power to turn the larger tires without being revved to the moon

>>17292470
True that good point to consider

>>17292449
This. Toyotafags are insufferable

>>17292506
The only Toyota guy ik is chill af and doesn't push me to buy a toyota

>>17292540
Maybe it's just the Toyota guys on /o/ then. Or maybe it's all just cummy samefagging.

>>17292574
Remember when tg was a thing and they'd get into flamewars with hg?

Buy a jeep :^)

>>17292574
>judging vehicles based off cummy and when he drops his trip
w e w

to be fair, i'd hate my own yota if that were the case.

>>17292540
Just don't hang around ricers and offroad circlejerkers.

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Stop arguing and post shifters right fucking now.

>>17292767
Not judging vehicles based on cummy.
Judging vehicles based on price vs actual value. (not arbitrary memetax value)
Judging fanbase based on how they generally act.

>>17292935
>GMT400 consistently provides best cost to value ratio

>>17293009
Ok?

>>17292367
Found the yodafag.

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Hi friends good to see everyone getting along regardless of what you drive or what brand you prefer

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>>17292285
hey look
another jealous faggot

What transmissions were available in 1993 suburbans? 1500 models, not 2500.

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Up North innawoods trails report:

So..... I always thought limb risers were in the same category as Snorkels... more show than anything else. Well, I was wrong. Driving down a trail at 15mph and a tree branch smacks my windshield with just enough force to crack it. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

The same limb tore off my magnet mount CB antenna and nearly took out one of my rear windows. I may need to replace it with a hardwired antenna...

Also the tree limbs got one of my Hellas. It nearly tore the reflector housing clear out. It was the good one of the pair too :-\ Replacement lights may be in order soon.

>>17289610
Thanks!
I fish, but I'm just getting into it. It's a nice way to relax!

>>17289783
Southeast Michigan is an area I don't spend too much time. I know Southwest Michigan well since I live here, but the real fun is up North. There are two or three other anons in that area though. Hopefully they'll chime in to help out.

>>17293709
I 2nd this. What are we fighting over in this thread?

>>17293888
4l60e
I don't have any experience with them, but rumor has it they get weak if you bump up the power.

>>17293977
>4l60e
Ive read a few thibfs that said that but wasnt sure. For instance in the camaro they switched to the 4l60 from the 700r4 in 1993. It was basically just a rename, then in 94 they switched to the electronic 4l60e. Wasnt sure if it was the same with thier suvs/trucks

>>17293888
4L60e. They're the weak point of the truck, but fortunately because of that there's a ludicrous amount of aftermarket support for them, and droves of experienced rebuilders. The 2500 models got the damn-near-unkillable 4L80e.

>>17292935
>default position is the middle
Into the trash she goes.

New rock auto discount code
6327369755105931

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>>17294304
thank you anon

>>17294291
This guy gets it, the shifter should be all the way forward when in 2wd, then back one notch for 4 hi, then neutral, over and back the rest of the way into 4 lo, like God intended...

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I think the shifter should go PRND21

>>17294568
The transmission shifter should. The transfer case shifter should have 2hi on the outside of 4hi.

>>17294568
Your kind is welcome around here, you can only post if your vehicle has a transfer case.

2wd fags get the fuck out!

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what's there to look out for in GMT400 burbans?

especially 4x4 onesm, K1500

>and if you guys don't, mind, what about the C2500 detroi diesels? there's one for sale locally

>>17294704
>your kind is welcome around here
thanks :)

>>17294704
>Your kind is welcome around here
:D
>you can only post if your vehicle has a transfer case.
???
>2wd fags get the fuck out!
:D?????????

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>>17294489
>>17294534
Blue XJ guy got two positive replies consecutively. Not bad.

>>17294735
assume the 4l60 is approaching the grave.
5.7 vortec is better than the old TBI and quadrajet 350s for power, but is about as efficient. Might as well enjoy your 8-11 mpg after you put big tires on it by having the BBC and the 4l80.
You might get lucky and find a good early one with a manual TC, or one of the later ones that didn't choose the option of the electric TC. It's not a huge deal if the one you want has the pushbutton, but if the old owners used Auto 4wd a lot or were going back and forth between 2hi and 4hi a lot and didn't keep up with maintenance, it can be weak point. The TC could be worn out or the electronic front actuator could be spotty. If you need to replace the TC or you find a good one, treat it right. Auto 4 should only be for dry road with potential black ice (necessary in the GMT400 because it doesn't have traction control like later trucks); 4hi on mud, rocks, sand, general 4x4 stuff; 4lo while river crossing and rock crawling. If the front actuator is fudging up, http://4x4posi-lok.com/app_chevy-k.html, a physical replacement exists.

As with all torsion bar vehicles, if the front end was neglected and run with bald tires with knots showing on the inside for thousands of miles, you might need to replace a bunch of shit to fix it, not just an alignment and new tires.

>C2500
http://offroaddesign.com/catalog/88-98SolidAxleConversion.htm#2WD vs. 4WD
http://www.gmfullsize.com/threads/2wd-4wd-sfa-part-duex.128085/

>>17295047
'your kind' was referring to auto trans.

Anon forgot about prerunners

>>17294568
wat vehicle is this

>>17295640
>Tacofag
>wat vehicle?
Pretty sure it's a fucking Tacoma.

>>17295140
To add to this anon's response:
Expect 13-15mpg in town and 16-18 on the highway with a 350. If it's doing worse than that with a 30-33" tire and you're not beating the piss out of it, then something is wrong.
The 96+ Vortec 454 in the 2500s has some extra HP and a metric fuckton of torque, but economy is going to drop off by 2-3mpg.

There are three transfer cases available in these trucks.
NP241 is the manual 4x4.
NP243 is the push button 4x4, essentially just an electronically shifted 241.
NP246 is the push button Autotrac AWD/Auto4x4 case. This one is identified by it's four buttons instead of three.

Expect to change the starter and fuel pump while you own it. Neither is expensive or difficult, but both will likely need replacement soon if they're still original at 150k+ miles and 20+ years old.

As for the diesel, it depends on the year. Anything you can do to help cooling will extend the lifespan of the engine. It's not a 5.9 or 7.3, so you're not likely to make it to a million miles but 500k should be fairly easy to attain if you fix the factory mistakes.
HO water pump, Duramax clutch fan, and Hayden severe duty fan clutch take care of cooling issues. Make sure the coolant is clean and the radiator isn't clogged up.
If it's a 94+ the biggest thing you have to worry about is the PMD. Just go ahead and buy one of the relocation kits with a lifetime warranty. I think Leroy Diesel sells one.
Not a factory mistake, but preventative maintenance here. Make sure you check the crank pulley. It's rubber dampened so if the rubber starts to dry rot and crack, it can lead to issues. If left unchecked for too long, cracked/separated rubber can lead to crank failure. If you're buying a good quality replacement you should not need to replace it more than twice throughout the lifetime of the truck.

>>17294291
>2 most comon posistions are next to each other
Nah nigga dis guud

>>17295646
Not my interior but Ye basically the same

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Here's a new picture of my 2wd S10 struck while going up a hill. God I fucking hate this truck this was the worst impulse buy I've ever made. It feels like it's bouncing up and down 4in 6 times a second as soon as the rear start spinning when going up a hill while still moving forward.

>100 remains pigfat overpriced IFS Edition

What about the 105's though? Inb4 amerifats never got them be cause they get cucked hard with auto imports.

>>17296641
Git gud, buddy always makes a point of seeing how far up a hill or in mud he can get away with in 2WD before he has to engage 4WD in his Pajero, almost makes me regret getting a dedicated 4WD.

>>17296641
Tyre chain the back. That's what I did with my 2wd I-5 Colorado.

Anyway, you could always sell it without the cap for a very good price and sell the cap for another 500.

Then get the FJ80 in London right now for $6k

>>17273051
nice to see some 2nd gen 'runners on here. total aestheticmobile

n e w
b r e a d

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