/DBT/

First for we dont need a map.

What's the point of ducati?

>tfw gotten so used to riding sport bikes that i actually find cruisers uncomfortable

seriously. having my legs flung out that far ahead of me just feels weird and even hurts in a weird way

>>17143607
Mechanic experience.

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>>17143581
Second for, I don`t even have pictures of my bikes now what?

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>>17143602
t. loner autist loser

>>17143581
>dem strips
DYEL

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>there's another ethiopian in here

M8 post your number and we'll go on a tour. I know the guy @ Africa Riding Adventures

>>17143607
fashion statement.

ducati literally brings nothing to the table. people like to cite their panimeme 1299 saying ooo its so fast when in reality it's sitting on an extra 0.3L of displacement and only making 205 at the crank. And considering they are a meme Italian company, they are a bit more lax with the ECU restrictions so they seem faster initially.

other than that, the only real engineering feat is how light they are. equipping them with a bunch of premium components like ohlins shocks/brembo brakes/quickshifter/abs/tc etc... is just meme stuff that can be had by buying any other modern sport bike

>>17143612
Lul

>>17143657
>another ethiopian

We have 3 African anons now?

>>17143661
Ducati makes light bikes. Lightness is king

>>17143661
You sound underpaid

>>17143670
make that 4
i'm from germany

>>17143681
We have countless Germans, they don't count.

>>17143684
:thinking:

>>17143661
listen m8 if they can get away with 300cc more while weighing less it means they are undeniably better built
the fact they make 200+hp on 2 cylinders is impressive, given the usual sportbike has 4

>>17143657
+251912079338
I'm actually not a motorcyclist, yet. I ride but I do not have a license as of yet. I've been driving since I was barely eighteen, have my license, a car and whatnot, but I dunno how or where I'm supposed to obtain a biker license. I've talked to a few places but most of them said that it takes up to nine months which is an awful amount of time. I (illegally) got my driver's license without even passing the exams. You don't happen to know a place where I could do the same for a biker's license, do you?

'72 Honda CL350... Any general thoughts as a starter bike?

>>17143483

Sho is.

Protip on the sticker removal: bicycle chain lube will remove any sticky shit that gets left behind after pulling the sticker.

>>17143661
tl;dr
>i'm poor and can't afford it, so it's shit

>>17143704
or use goo-gone like a normal person

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please dont send me goddamn puush links. puush is SHIT. they delete the pictures after a few days, and i have to reupload all of them. its literally a read-and-do list on the map page, cant be that hard now can it.

and all the pics you put in that are like 50TB and 16kx9k pixels: the pics on the map page are tiny, theres no use in that.

>>17143618
im glad you also have a sick tire fetish, enjoy
http://imgur.com/a/nESJm

>>17143661
>>17143607
lul

>>17143698
Do you like motoGP/football? We can meet at the radisson this weekend and chat.

I'll text you saturday morning

>>17143698
sent ;-)

>>17143712
>implying i'm going to look at a reddit tier gallery of tire pictures
lol no

>AKG doesn't show up for months
>remove map link from OP
>he's back to force his map into the thread again
this shit is hilarious. Does he have a special sense for when the map is getting dissed?

>>17143661
>only making 205 at the crank

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>>17143722
you're just a faggot for fucking up the OP

>>17143712
gesendet ;-)

>>17143722
He's the one dissing it, to generate attention.

>>17143581
>daily bike thread
>second thread today

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>>17143670
Define African.

>>17143736
Living in the continent Africa.
That includes you, Afrikaan.

>>17143702
bad idea. it will be a mechanical mess

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>>17143739
allahu akbar

>>17143733
Are you mad that the bikefags are most of the traffic on this board?

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step aside, gs500

Any saffers ITT? Wanna do a Horn to Cape tour on muh fz in 18 months.

Host me pls

>>17143736
any one who doesn't speak English is a sambo in my eyes

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>>17143728
geil
ich hoff ich schaff noch alle bevor germanys next top model anfängt ;^)

>>17143717
Sure... But, the Radisson is expensive mate. I'm just a student, but I have 483 birr in my wallet so, fuck it. Let's!!
Is this >>17143718 also your response because I haven't received anything on my cell.

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>>17143755
haha, PRANK'D als ob ich dir meine Daten gebe

>>17143760
No lmao. I'll buy us dinner and drinks if your up for it. Bike's back from the shop Saturday morning so I'll text you then. We can chill at mine otherwise and watch the motogp if youre down.

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>>17143762
hart geprankt

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>>17143749
move over pleb

>>17143772
It won't be reliable until 2021

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>>17143760
PRANKD IT WAS ME BUT I'M FROM GERMANY

>>17143771
voll erwischt ;-))))) (full wide-side)

>>17143754

like this guy for example >>17143755

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>>17143752
Are you that Rich Kang? I'll ride with you for a while if you pass through Gauteng.

>>17143776
>>>
it's a smoller 1200, that engine is older then the shiver itself

>>17143768
kek! well, if that's the case then whichever you think is best works for me, mate.

>nigerian prince

>>17143784
Yeah, stick around, m8

>>17143789
Let's do Sunday. I'll pick you up on the bike and we'll watch moto3/2/gp races and talk. Anyway I'll text you

>>17143793
Now this is story all about how my bike got flipped turned upside down
and I'd like to take a minute just sit right there,
I'll tell you how I became the Prince of the african cape

>>17143800
Great! I'll see you then. Thanks for the convo'.

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>this is now an ethiopian thread

Feelz kang man

>>17143820
>>17143818
how do ethipoian places look like

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>>17143836
This is my neighborhood. We're @ 7.k feet altitude here in addis so like a poor mountain village in europe

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>>17143581
where in europe can I find parts for this piece of shit? I want to change so much shit in it but there's like... nothing

>>17143851
>parts
hi 16yo fresh out of nfs
wtf are you talking about, just get a pipe, filter and a tune
if you mean cosmetic stuff, just fab your own

>>17143856
yes cosmetic, not even some fucking levers

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>>17143845
sikk

>>17143856
there's not even that you obviously have no clue

>>17143851
nowhere

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F to pay respects to this poor engine

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>>17143858
My yamaha is better

>>17143860
most stuff is universal, literally hit up ebay and get some chink levers
bars have 2measures in europe, not difficult to find out which you have
fenders ->ebay
wheels are too pricy

what exactly are you looking for?

>>17143820
>drinking wines
Soft as a women, m8.

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>>17143869
SOHC a best

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>owned bike for 2 years
>mfw just now finally discovered the VIN number location

>>17143851
maybe you should get a real bike instead

>>17143879
I found out my bike had underseat storage a few months after getting it

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>>17143877

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>>17143877
Will batter you, cunt

>>17143880
>Disney's, Marvel's, only real bikers; a star wars story

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>>17143878
always, this does however set my BRP build back a little more.
at least the rest of it seems to be in good shape, so $340 to get it working again.

the tank/subframe deal on your bike still weirds me out

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Aight i added everyone except two people.
I'll add them when my internet allows me to.

Enjoy the map, and pls send me an IMGUR LINK if you want to be added.

>>17143869
at least KTM used rollers on the rocker arms so they don't get chewed up by the cam.

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>>17143872
80ccm ftw! :D

>>17143851
just buy a proper bike

>>17143581

Emailed you, add me to the map.

Looking for riding bros.

>>17143901
doesnt help much if it starved for oil, just makes for more parts to replace, though it does make for more aggressive cam options

>tfw still nobike because craigslist is full of bastards that post ads and never respond

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Add me asshole

>>17143901
>>17143909
Also doesn't help if you use shit bearings in the rollers and have them fail every 10k lel
>they fixed that eventually

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>>17143898
Bruh move me to SF
Update my picture to this, and my bikes to
>Husqvarna 701 Supermoto, DRZ400SM, KX250

pls

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>>17143928
they sure did a good job with styling on this piece

>>17143928
did my card arrive yet

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>>17143936
fixt

>>17143940
I'll go check the mail

>>17143869
the fuck is this? 3 valve SOHC with rockers for both sides?

At least this abomination
>>17143878
uses the the cam for the intake valves.

>>17143901
they break before getting used up by friction anyways.

Not sure how many MN-fags we have here, but just got a notice about an auction coming up mid-June in Austin, MN
(www.artspartsauctions.com). 450 motorcycles and scooters, 60s-80s. Ton of pictures to look through.

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>>17143943
Needs moar 80

Im going riding, fuck all yall

>>17143956
no u

>>17143749
SV will always be to cool to take over the GS meme

>>17143956
no u

>>17143889
You have soft, almost feminine facials features. No home, but I'd hit. And what about the gum, oral fixation?

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>>17143944
4 valves xr650r
the intake is linked to one rocker, and honda uses the unicam system now which is rocker and shim/bucket.
id prefer to stay with rockers for simplicity of maint

>>17143944
>3 valve
Nope

Why would it matter that it uses rockers for intake and exhaust? Just makes valve clearance adjustments easier

Are all Ducatifags meme riders?
I see them on the streets in full Dainese leathers and they're going like 60 on the freeway and below speed limits on local.
They also don't lane split and I'm in California.

>>17143977
useless extra moving parts and weight.

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>>17143998
>useless
This is me laughing at you taking out your cam to do valve adjustments

>>17143969
No. Straight, but gay looking here

>>17143996
I saw some squid on one literally riding to go drink coffee with some other eurobikers. Memes are oftentimes too accurate

>>17143889
>africa bathroom nicer than mine
what the FUCK

who have I been donating goats and funding wells for?

>>17144017
taking out a cam is easy as fuck. I much prefer that to trying to shove a feeler gauge, wrench, and screwdriver all in that tiny hole in that tiny gap between the frame and cam cap.

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>>17143889
>soft Queenly hands
>baby soft beard
>Hippie hair
You can`t banter me, m8.

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>>17144050
Lmao white things belong to us black ppl

-rossi

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>>17144052
You still have to use the feeler gauge with shim under bucket.

>20 minute valve adjustment with screw type
>vs an hour plus to remove the cam, wait for new shims in the mail or order over the counter, then reinstall the cam, cam tensioner, valve cover.
Really guy? I guess if you're like Baird and take your bike to the shop to do maintenance and don't mine paying a couple hundred for a valve adjustment.

>>17144073
Had both systems. Done valve adjustments on both. Still prefer DOHC.
for dohc
>Remove valve cover
>have fucktons of room to work. no cramming my hands in tight spots or holding things at weird angles
>feeler slides directly under cam with no room for error
>if it does go out of adjustment (which happens much less because there's no screws to wiggle about) then I just pull the cam and drop in a new shim easier than I could even get to the exhaust valves on my other bike

For the SOHC bike:
>remove valve covers
>now have tiny window to get to the tiny little tappets
>tappets are on pivots so a feeler gauge won't slide under unless you go from just the right angle
>intakes aren't too bad anyway
>to get to the exhaust valves I have to unbolt the radiators and hold them out of the way to get my hand in, and I still have to cram it in at a weird angle between the front of the frame and engine
>almost impossible to get a wrench and screwdriver in that gap to make an adjustment if necessary

Maybe the XR is easier than my KTM but it couldn't be any easier than the DR-Z. I don't know why you think it's hard to pull a cam.

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SAM detail when

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REALE DEUTSCH PFOSTIER STUNDEN

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>>17144117
SAM never, unlike SEM WHICH WILL BE IN 12 WEEKS GET H Y P E

>>17144118
>he fell for the Schaaf meme

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Can anyone here give me the rundown on cruisers? What are the pros and cons of various brands, what features or whatever should I take into consideration, what are the reliability / maintenance considerations, etc.

Not the huge touring kind, just standard Sportster / Shadow / Etc. type cruisers.

It's basically impossible to find unbiased information on Harley Davidsons because they're the biggest cult in motorcycling. It's all either "pigfat, slow, unreliable trash 0/10 would not buy" or "best bike in the entire world, never breaks, most powerful motorcycle in the world, wouldn't buy anything else".

I've been riding dual sports for almost 10 years now, but I want to get a comfy, relaxed road bike that can just cruise 25-90mph for hours on end. Also grocery / beer runs, of course.

Pic related, just a bike from local Craigslist I was looking at, but the front fairing / windshield thing would have to go.

>>17143889
kawaii

>>17144138
>cons
its a cruiser

>pros
technical not a car

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>>17144131
>he doesn't know I AM schaaf
Lmao

>>17143996

You have something against following the speed limit in town anon?

I stopped speeding anywhere but back highways after my third suspension.

>>17144138
magna is best

>>17144146

Thanks for the useful reply, nobike.

I've already got a 650cc dual sport, and a shitbox SUV. I'm strongly considering buying a KTM 790 Duke when they come out, but there's definitely room for at least 3 bikes in my garage. Especially once I sell my money sink 80's MB.

>>17144117
It's going to happen 37/21/71982712

>>17144149
>footpegs at center-wheel level height
>look at me scraping pegs like a maniac, such skill

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>>17144138
Sounds like you need some ADV in your life.

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Holy shit it's getting to 79 F in Corvallis Oregon today. I'm already kinda warm.

My Alpinestar Apex Drystar gloves ain't gonna cut it. What are some good warmer weather gloves you guys recommend for a budget oriented rider? It's mostly for commuting.

>>17144164
np feel free to ask more pointless questions

>>17144138
From your description, it sounds like an FZ-09 would be perfect for you.

If you're set on a cruiser though I'd say either go with Indian (owned by Polaris and American made but I personally don't like their styling), Yamaha (the Bolt is great and average size with lots of aftermarket support), and stay away from Harley Davidson (paying for the name and ancient shitty technology, though their styling is GREAT).

Does that help at all anon?

>>17144179
Just get more Icon gear bruh.

>>17144197
I might, they're a local company after all. Anything that's cheaper and not complete trash and fits I'm down for.

I'm really happy with the Icon Airmada helmet.

>>17144110
Not hard, but more difficult, and more time consuming than the screw type. The XR has plenty of room if you bend the feeler a little to get between the frame and engine.

Shim over bucket was a best but they got rid of it for no reason.

>>17144196
>i want a cruiser
>From your description, it sounds like an FZ-09 would be perfect for you.
???

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>>17144204

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>>17144196
git a v-max

>>17144205
>I've been riding dual sports for almost 10 years now, but I want to get a comfy, relaxed road bike that can just cruise 25-90mph for hours on end. Also grocery / beer runs, of course.
>confused how an FZ-09 was recommended
???

>>17144228
don't bother he's already made his decision and just wants us to pat his dick and justify it

you know what?
italian bikes may have figured out something after all
went to see some aprilias
>feels solid
>not so edgy styling
>light af
the dorso's engine mount is smaller and lighter than my honda's peg assembly

>>17144242
>the dorso's engine mount is smaller and lighter than my honda's peg assembly
That... doesn't sound good actually.

>>17144225
But what does it actually effect?

>>17144246
forged alu >>>> cast chinkshit

Any eurofags here? Specifically Germans?

I'm a a second time besetzungtruppen only this time with a motorcycle. A kinda shitty old one.

How strict are emissions there? Are inspections difficult? My bike has a lot of cosmetically damaged but functional parts and non-functioning, unimportant parts. Also many aftermarket mods.

>>17144246
footpegs take a lot more abuse than engine mounts

>>17144267
>Any eurofags here?
Yes

>Specifically Germans?
Too damn many.

You guys got way to strict inspections and everything non-stock is a almost always a failure, unless you know what you're doing what you clearly don't.

>>17144242
the dorsoduro is pretty fucking heavy actually

>>17144267
i don't think you need to get tüv inspection if its registered in USA or GB or wherever,

If you do then you are probably fucked, not because emissions but aftermarket parts with no AGB (permitted usage)

>>17144138
>long and low, good straight line stability but cornering suffers due to geometry and their extra weight over sports
>friendly to shorter riders because very low seat but also typically plenty of legroom because no tuck
>comfortable ergos (upright seated not crouched) unless you go full faggot with one of those mashed position bobbers or tryhard harley's
>often have creature comforts like floorboards instead of pegs, cushy seats, bar-mounted speakers, etc
>lots of torque available early in RPMs
>generally cheaper to maintain than high-performance bikes because you can get away with cheaper/less materials (a lot have single disc front brakes instead of double cuz they don't need to stop in a hurry from 180mph, much lower performance demands from tires saves a shitload of money there, etc)

Cruisers are, in essence, exactly what it says on the tin; they're motorcycles for daily driving and getting places in relative comfort, cruising. Emphasis is usually on sound, style, and lazy ease of use over maximum performance and handling.

As with most bikes, buy metric when looking at cruisers unless you have priapism for the Harley badge; you'll typically get much more bike for much less money, though sometimes private sellers can be a crapshoot.

>>17144267
>How strict are emissions there? Are inspections difficult?

The TÜV inspection is pretty thorough and all important parts have need to have to be original, certified for general use (ABE) or to be used with your bike. It might not be worth the hassle and expenses to make your bike TÜV ready.

>>17144290
>new exhaust
>suddenly 15kgs lighter
wow, so hard

If I bring a currently insured and registered bike to California and register it there, will it have to have one of those CA emissions certified stickers? My bike has all the emissions shit taken off of it so I'm kinda worried.

>>17144226
I've driven cars with less engine than this.

>>17144385
T. Yurop

>>17144335
hey anon,

My 5'0 GF wants to buy a cruiser motorcycle but I have no interest in them. What models are the best budget value / most comfortable? Open-ended question but any info is appreciated. Purchase would be used, not new

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I just rode past two cops using something that looked like image related

I was going 65 in a 50 (kilometers)

Was not pulled over, am I good?

>>17144238
If he wants his dick patted he should come to SEM not post here.
No homo

>>17144418
Yes, it's a radar gun, it just detects your speed but since you're on a bike it's hard to get you because they need to hit you directly to get a good read. Also 65 in a 50 isn't that bad. That's around "the limit" to how much you can go above the limit in kilometers.

>>17143661
>meme
>meme
>meme
>meme

shut the fuck up

>>17144418
>yurop/us
it's nothing
>uk/ca/ger/swiss
say goodbye to your license

>>17144417
some shitty Virago or Shadow or something like that.

dunno what to do with the cougar
she's rotting in the back yard as we speak

>>17144418
If they face you, don't worry. You only have a rear facing plate.

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>>17144117
SAM was this weekend m8 you missed it

>>17144443
this
if rear facing just rip a fat wheelie and hold it at 12 o'clock until you can't see them

>>17144433
I ride 65-70 km all the time in CA.

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>>17144458
This

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these have been deployed in my city center
they can't actually see my plates, can they?

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>>17144484
Of course speed cameras can.

Either make your plate like image related and get pulled over by cops, or enjoy the tax tickets in the mail. My city is full of cameras, it sucks.

>>17144484
Do they point towards the front of the vehicle? If so, then no. Motorcycles are basically speed camera immune unless there's a country silly enough to uphold photographic evidence from the rear in court.

>>17144493
>>17144493
Alberta only has rear facing plates, and speed cameras are everywhere.

Its basically impossible to fight them in court.

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>>17144502
>live in Europe
>front plates mandated on cars
>speed camera photos must include driver's face to be valid
>therefore only front cameras exist
>mfw
Finally a remedy for our meme licenses.

>>17144179
>glock
Straight garbage

>>17143779
switch off the lights

>>17144518
What meme polymer glock clone do you recommend then? sig p250? walther ppq?

>>17144516
just reading up, says they need the mugshot so people can't deny it's them operating the vehicle

they can't have accounted for that but overlooked rear plates on bikes
must be a hidden camera somewhere, I shall have a closer look next time

>>17144516
Noice.

Here the ticket goes to whomever the vehicle is registered under, with no actual demerits so they dont need to prove who was driving.

Its good because at least you keep your license, but mostly just fucking awful because they are always set up in areas right after the speed limit drops.

>>17144526
Get a sphinx and stop being a faggot.

Or the pps m2 for pocket carry

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>>17144458
SAM was pretty legit, and unlike SEM no one died

General thoughts on Tourmaster jackets/apparel? I got a second hand Pivot jacket from a friend, seems solid. Actually has like armor plates or some shit in it. Trying to decide if I want to go full retard and get pants to go with, or go for asphalt-enhanced-cellulite-reduction.

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>>17144179
not much protection, but they are comfy and dosen't restrict your hands much.

>>17144578
>unlike SEM no one died
lame

>>17144516
I always blow past cagers who decelerate in front of the camera, hoping that they get their picture taken.
I might be an asshole, but you can't really say a single nice thing about cagers so it evens out.

>>17144578
>and unlike SEM no one died
oh god don't remind me.

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>>17144578
>>17144616
>>17144642
wat? did someone die in SEM?

>>17144655
Sadly not enough did

>>17144655
On the way home someone did IIRC

>>17144662
when will the world finally be purged of dbt users

>>17144682
Might take a while since most don't have bikes

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>>17144674
Wut, who was it ? I knew about the french guy in norway ( i think) but not about this one.

>>17144696
Who cares? Not like anything of value was lost

>>17144696
>>17144655
we are still referencing the event from 2015, nobody died in 2016.

put this in google transalate for info.
http://www.varden.no/nyheter/dod-mann-i-innsjo-var-mc-turist-fra-monaco-1.1442839

>>17144696
yeah I think his name was Axel or something, got thrown into a ditch and died

>>17143928
how about you read the description on the map page and send me your new location and an imgur link to my email

>>17143916
read above

>>17144176

I'm planning on renting an Africa Twin to try the adv bike thing, but if I did buy one it would probably replace my current dual sport. I couldn't justify having two bikes so similar to each other.

>>17144196

FZ-09 is a nice bike, but I want to get a bike for the track and the FZ-09 is a little too similar to "gottagofast" options I've been eyeing, so I'm relatively set on a cruiser as bike #2. I'm trying for 3 bikes as different as possible from each other.

I did take a look at the Yamaha Bolt and they look like a good choice. I've never owned a Yamaha, but I've had great luck with Kawasaki and Honda over the years and I'm sure they're pretty much the same. I wouldn't be buying a new bike regardless, so I can avoid some of the "paying for the name" thing with HD. The used market in my area is absolutely flooded with Harleys, but there aren't many Indians or other cruiser brands around. Could you elaborate a little on "ancient shitty technology"? Are they difficult to work on or really high maintenance requirements? My current bike is "ancient tech" but I love it just the same.

So yeah, that helps. Thanks anon.

>>17144238

You're right, I've already decided I want a cruiser, but I'm not here for dick patting. Just information so I don't buy a particularly shitty cruiser. Even if all cruisers are shitty.

>>17144335

I have absolutely no loyalty to the Harley badge, and I would tend to prefer metric as the majority of my tools are metric from years of working on my jap bikes. As I mentioned though, the used market in my area is completely flooded with Harleys from $1500-4000 from the 883's to 1200's. The occasional jap cruiser pops up, but surprisingly few. The Bolt looks like a good option, maybe the occasional Shadow, but they're in short supply.

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>>17144710
>No one died this year so it's fine
keks

>>17144526
There is literally nothing wrong with Glocks.

>>17144726
>how about you read the description on the map page and send me your new location and an imgur link to my email
Yes Daddy

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>>17144655

RIP in pepperoni anon

>>17144726
how about you apply your tongue directly to my testicles

Fun fact: almost exactly 80% of /dbt/ bikes are Japanese.

>>17144751

Grip angle wasn't great for my hands, which resulted in my point of aim being a little high every time I did draw & fire. I switched to a P30L and despite the shittier trigger my USPSA / IDPA scores went up. No gun is right for everyone.

I've got a complete $250 ZEV trigger kit for glocks that I need to sell, actually.

>>17144740
'86 Shadow is my current ride, I'm loving it so far, though I got what I think is a really good deal on an excellently-kept example. The older ones don't seem as easy to come buy, however, and the newer shadows seem to go for more of the elongated Harley-esque look that I don't really find quite as appealing. If you do come across a mid-late 80's Shadow though, they're pretty low maintenance. Shaft drive and all that jazz keeps it pretty simple.

As another anon said, I've heard Indian is a solid choice as well, though also like that anon said I don't really like much of their styling save for the Scout, which is pretty dang sexy to me.

I don't really think you can go wrong with any Japanese standard or cruiser, and I seriously doubt Harleys are as bad as the opposition claims they are. I'm sure they have their quirks just like any model of bike has, you just need to learn them and maintain it well. That being said, the only Harley I really like the looks of are the sportsters; I've never been one for the balls-to-the-wall cruiser look, I like it more on the simple side.

>>17143661
>needing TWO MORE cylinders
Oh well, next super bike is going to be V4.

>>17144794
post proof

>>17144794
if you're doing this off the map 9/10 aprilias are dead

>>17144795
gb2/k/

>>17144795
I wasn't implying that it's perfect for everyone, just not a garbage gun. Of course everyone will have different ergonomic preferences

>>17144787
so i get full blown super-AIDS?
no way

>>17144804
I counted the entries on the /dbt/ map 2bh. Did it earlier so I can't remember the exact numbers, but I think it was 71 Hondas, 56 Yamahas, 55 Suzukis, 38 Kawasakis out of 273 or so total. Triumph is the most popular non-Japanese brand, followed by BMW.

>>17144824
ill bow to your superior first hand knowledge of the aids virus

>tfw you have your permit, jacket, gloves, helmet, gps mount, tool bag, etc etc etc and the craigslist guy you were dealing with says the title didn't arrived today, so it will be at least Monday before you can have the bike

>>17144824
I emailed you cuck pls do thing

>>17144801

What did you pay out of curiosity?

I'm 100% with you there on the styling thing. There are some decent looking sportsters, and Harley seems to be making more of the leaner, trimmed down bikes in the last several years. Most of the older ones I see would seriously benefit aesthetically from 10 minutes with a wrench taking extra bullshit off.

I have yet to see a used Indian on my local craigslist, but the styling is a little... Gaudy for the most part.

>>17144823

You're right though in that there is literally nothing wrong with it as a gun. Just saying it's not the right choice for all.

>>17144893
i will soon enuff bby

>>17144138
I don't like that Harleys are air cooled. Also they're meme bikes.

>bought r9t last year
>love it, but can't ride like a dumb faggot hooligan on it
>work at dealership, get dem deals
>want a hypermotard SP
>will pay cost -15% for it

Should I do it? Anyone own a Hypermotard?

>didn't get my full licence until late 20's
>already had a few spills
>get a 900
>never take it over 70mph
yup

>>17144970
y-yuro?

>>17144138
Indian > Harley.

Get the scout and never look back

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>>17144959

My Honda is air cooled and I live in one of the hottest parts of the US. I've never had an issue.

>Meme bikes.

That, they truly are.

>>17144978

Even the Scout is a little gaudy for my tastes, but if I found a good deal on a used one I would seriously consider it.

>>17144986
Scout is sexual and far superior to the sportster. I doubt you'll be finding any used anytime soon

>>17144993

Yeah, I'll never buy a brand new bike.

The Phoenix used motorcycle market is fucking flooded with bikes <10,000 miles selling for ~50% of MSRP or less. Especially in the summer when only the most truly insane are riding.

Why spend $8-12k on a brand new bike when I can buy a good condition used one for $4k?

Hell, I bought my 2005 XR650L (~$7,000 new) for $4,200 in 2010 with 1,200 miles on it in like new condition. Those miles were a guy commuting to the local military base and back.

New bikes are a terrible choice unless you've got something extremely specific you want, or it's too new to find used.

>>17145015
I bought my chief new. I have no regerts

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What's the best cruisercuck bike?

>>17145030

Sure, and if you were set on that bike, which is too new to find used, that was your only option.

Tons of people buy Harleys new because there are so many models and options and they just have to have their special snowflake, only to turn around and sell them a few years later for half what they paid.

Maybe in a few years I'll be able to pick up a scout the same way. Right now though, people seem to be holding onto them.

>>17145044
That garbage street glide

>>17144986
The scout sixty is a little more conservative than the standard and it blows 1200 sportsters the fuck out.

Ive seen a few for sale on craigslist but most were used from a dealer.

I bought new and like
>>17145030
No regerts.

One anon got a Scout 60 for like 6500 used and had less than 1000 miles on it.

>>17145055
Good for him! I wouldn't want the 60 though. The regular one is more enjoyable to ride to me.
But a deal is a deal

>>17145061
From dudes on the Indian specific forums once youve tuned out the throttle body govern they pull like a standard scout, all the way through the power band. As they shit the throttle body wont open fully over something like 5k rpm.

I can understand wanting the most power however.

>>17144960
>having the opportunity to own a Hypermotard SP
>questioning it

If you can afford it WITHOUT BULLSHIT REPAYMENTS YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO DO, then do it for sure anon. Post pics, too.

>>17144898
I paid $1600 for my Shadow, which now that I actually look at values that's probably just a little over average, but the thing is in excellent shape. So not the best deal all things considered but I still consider it worth what I paid.

And that's why I like the Scout, though. All of the rest of their lineup has the over-the-top 70's chunky fairings and tassel-type stuff that I just can't stomach, but the Scout is nowhere near as bad and actually looks pretty slick.

>>17145055
>>17145082

Scout Sixty is pretty good looking, but I haven't seen one on Craigslist at all. 6500 is pretty reasonable if I could find a deal like that, but I'm looking to stay around $4500 or less. This bike will probably be the least ridden of the three I plan to own, and who knows if I'll even keep it longer than a year or two. All depends how much I like it. It's easy to buy and sell bikes. I'm going to get about $8k out of selling my "fun" car, and I want to put about half of that into the fund for when I need to replace my shitbox, and the rest on a new bike.

>>17145082
I like that big feeders. Looks like an old Cadillac. The tassels are lame though.
But to each their own

>>17144526
Cz P07 you pleb

>>17145107
Pcr or bust

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who here /storebikeindoors/ ? But seriously, can I get in legal trouble for this? The tank's been drained and it doesn't leak MTL or anything, but I keep it on a tarp for good measure anyway. There's nothing in my lease agreement that forbids it explicitly, but there's what seems to be a catchall, "Do not store hazardous/flammable objects in apartment, etc..." so I throw it in my truck on inspection days. Just wondering if anyone else does/has done this and has gotten burned.

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>>17144138
If you want a sportster get one made after 2003, after 2007 all sporties are fuel injected.

The bike is basically unchanged since 1986, and they are good bikes, bulletproof motors, they make good power and with buell heads and a big bore kit a sporty can put down over 100hp to the tire.

Sporties have god teir aftermarket.

Scouts both the 60 and 69 shit on sporties right out of the box, the aftermarket blows.

Metric cruisers like triumph yamaha or honda I dont have alot of info on but by all accounts they are good bikes.

Triumph I think suffers a little from Harleyism, lots of style and weight but low on power.

>>17145089
Sounds like you need a sporty then.

You can get a good one for around 4 grand
>>17145128

>>17145128
Oops, after 2003 the sportsers engine is rubber mounted cutting down on the bad vibrations.

>>17145126
what kind of homosexual area do you live in that you have to WORRY if its legal to store YOUR bike indoors?

acquire testicles and stop worrying like a bitch or move someplace that isnt pure fail

>>17145139
Such is life in a college town. If I had that luxury, I'd have a garage/barn and not a studio single.

>>17145126
Look at what your insurance says about it, i was going to store my bike in my basement but my parents said that if there was a house fire or anything that it wouldnt be covered because the bike was there.

need a scooter brother

>>17144433
>people will believe this

>>17145136
>>17145132
>>17145128
>>17145082
>>17144801

Thanks for the info guys. I'll pick up a Jap cruiser if I can find a good deal on a decent looking one, otherwise there is a steady stream of cheap Sportsters for sale on my local Craigslist. If I go that route I'll make sure I buy post-2003.

What's the life expectancy and maintenance schedule of a Sportster (or ~900-1200cc cruisers), out of curiosity?

I'm at 20k on my XR650L and it's just starting to need things like new swing arm bearings, etc. Cam chain and clutch are probably coming up next around ~25k or so. Most people seem to need head work around 35,000-40,000. I have no idea how this compares to other types of motorcycles, it's the only bike I've owned long enough so far for it to matter.

>>17144598
Tourmaster is the house-brand for Helmet Houser. They're the guys who brought HJC to the US. They've been around forever and the stuff is good, if unexciting.

honda
yamaha
suzuki
kawasaki

>>17145377
I never rode the one much that I bought, because I had my scout so I sold it.

Because of that I dont really know how often the valves need checked but i think the cams dont need shimmed like on OHC motors because pushrods.

They last a really long time tho, they dont tend to get crashed as much as the big harleys or sportbikes so some can rack up the miles.

Other than standard chain and clutch stuff you really only need to make sure your primary chain is tight enough.

I had little mechanic experience and the repairs I needed to make required a transmission pull, the whole this was really easy.

>>17145402
Thanks for the info.


So, does making that Rylo helmet make me gay?

Great looking bike, low price, 18k mi, rebuilt carb, replaced starter, new ignition coils, new oil/filter, new plugs, new battery, been listed for weeks
Why?

>>17145456
>>17145128

Is this a scam? Seems awfully cheap for that mileage.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/mcy/6116641929.html

Considering calling them when I get off work. I would definitely have to replace the bars with something lower and less faggoty, and would probably want to remove that front fairing too if possible.

>>17144196

I still don't get by anybody would get a FZ-09 over an FZ1. FZ1 is just about the perfect road bike.

>>17145485
Absolutely, big harleys rarely go for less that 5 grand.

>>17145499

I figured.

Maybe I'll call them anyway just to see what the deal is. Could be some woman selling her ex-husbands bike or something.

That said, if they actually agree to let me come see the bike (assuming they even have it) I'll probably go armed with a buddy in case it's a fucking mugging scam.

>>17145512
Harley scams are pretty common I guess.

It could be a really good deal.

Reguardless I wouldnt buy a Twincam Harley unless I was gonna flip it.

Theyve got some serious design flaws, 1999 and earlier is the newest id buy for a big harley.

Is there a sporty (probably not going to find a full on sport bike that fits this descriptions) bike that is mechanically simple to work on? Doesn't have to necessarily be a bare-bones engine design, anything that is complex yet still manages to make simple maintenance/tuning works too.

I've heard the R NineT fits this, is there anything else? I'm imagining some Guzzi stuff probably falls under the umbrella

>>17145531

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/mcy/6089711827.html

Opinion on this? The salvage title doesn't really bother me, but I'm pretty wary of that radiator damage.

>>17145547
Motorcycles are easy to work on for the most part, anything with fairings sucks ass tho.

>>17145547
I can't speak to the mechanics of them, but the R Nine T is a great motorcycle. Fun, simple, easy to ride with a decent amount of power. A Guzzi is going to be beautiful to look at but riding one is a massive disappointment. They're gutless.

>>17145562
Vmaxs are pretty cool, so are 90s and newer Magnas.

Idk anything about salvage titles tho, arent they harder to insure?

>>17145562
>https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/mcy/6089711827.html
That seems way too low for a VMax that is in pretty good condition, apart from that radiator.

As long as the hoses leading from the radiator aren't damaged or leaking, and the fan still works, it might just be a simple replacement.
If not, there might be more teardown involved, and checks to make sure that there's no damage from overheating.

>>17145565
Depends.

Old Ducati 916's had 1/4 turn Dzus fasteners. Could strip the whole bike bare in less than 20 seconds. The valves were interesting to adjust, but overall... fairly simple to work on.

>looking at installing EJK+M4 pipe on my FZ09
>have literally to tear the bike apart to get to the injectors

I hope the exhaust sound is worth it

[spoiler]the only major mechanical work ive done is change oil in my truck and bikes[/spoiler]

>>17145565
I agree with you entirely. My sportbike has been an absolute pain in the ass to do anything even remotely related to its mechanical components. just the act of taking off the carbs (not even getting to them) took me 20 minutes and 3 different screwdrivers.

everything is packed in so tightly on a sportbike

https://lexington.craigslist.org/mcy/6113957895.html
Should I buy this 1994 Vmax for $2900?

>>17145588
You'll be fine anon, just take your time and stop and ask someone if something doesn't look right.

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How's life /dbt/?

>>17145531
are you completely fucktarded?

any evo motor is reliable as long as its well looked after

>>17144418
in Israel the police is mostly only checking speed with radar only in a 90 km/h roads or in our largest highway(that it's not jammed)

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>>17145575
>90s and newer Magnas.
What? The 80s ones were the best in both styling and performance. They only make them in 700/750cc now.

>>17145598
Don't get me started on Honda fairings. Fucking Honda V4 fairings are the worst offenders, be it VFR or RC. 8 different sizes of screw/bolt, 16 different panels... FUCK!

>>17145598
I don't think it's that bad. Fairings come off pretty easy but I have some trouble getting them lined up again going back together. I think mine might have chink fairings though.

But year it was a pain to get the throttle bodies off. The rubber had basically turned into an adhesive holding them on.

>>17145620
Cold and depressing

>>17145575
Not sure about that state, but up here you don't get a salvage title unless the vehicle was written off as a total loss by the insurance company. I have a heard time believing they did that for a bumped radiator.

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>>17145620
Just cleaned the piss out of my bike after MOAB and reinstalled my meme wheels.
Feels fucking fantastic to be back at sea level on 17s, I love this baiku.

So it looks like 99% chance I'm getting an early 80s Nighthawk 450 for less than I spent on my jacket, helmet, etc. Wrinkle is, its been in dry storage for 13 years. I'll confirm the motor is seized before purchase, but I'm sure there will be a lot that needs to be done. First thoughts are a good pressure washing, followed by basic maintenance (oil change, flush the gas tank, clean the carbs). Anything else I should be ready for when I pick it up?

>>17145648
Confirm the motor is not seized that is.

>>17145648
Maybe new tires, lines, seals? I'd be worried about dry rot/cracking after sitting that long

>>17145648
Every piece of rubber, all your hoses and bushings and tires will be dry rotted probably, battery shot. Some parts might be difficult to find.
It will take more than you think to be nice but might be ridable relatively easily.

>>17143702
Unless it's in perfect stock shape AND you are a mechanic, get something modern. CLs are collectible if stock or close to it (ESPECIALLY the exhaust system) so if it's free sell it but don't go out of your way to buy one.

They were a fine starter bike when I was young but that was a long time ago.

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>>17145638
i didnt realize how much power i was down till i got back home, i havent gotten out unloaded yet though

Im looking for a new bike and ive got it narrowed down to two. Im buying new, price is only a minor concern..
>fz-09
>street triple
I rode the yamaha but not the triumph
Ive heard the striple wasnt as 'fun' though.
Seems like it has better equipment.. Im really stuck here.
Opinions?

>>17145638
>sea level
but it has EFI?

>>17145575

They're only hard to insure if you declare it as salvage to your insurance company. I actually work in insurance, and there's no way for us to know unless you tell us.

I guess if you totaled it and tried to file a claim, it might cause an issue. Otherwise it would never come up.

>>17145702
lel. air density still changes with altitude. EFI can correct the a/f ratio for the most part but that doesn't mean it won't lose power.

>>17145377
>What's the life expectancy and maintenance schedule of a Sportster (or ~900-1200cc cruisers), out of curiosity?

Like most motorcycles fewer actually wear out than are beaten or neglected to death, but maintenance is easy and thanks to the enormous aftermarket you can keep them running for a literal lifetime easily.

Maintenance schedules for anything can be found via brand/model specific forums. Whatever you buy, make sure there are a shitload of them and your particular model has been out for a while. Makes support and accessories easy to find, but no other bike brand has anything remotely close to HD aftermarket support.

This forum will relieve anyone of ever asking a Sportster question on /dbt/ if they know about it:

http://xlforum.net/vbportal/modules/Jig/index.php

>>17145691
If you're buying new Striple, it has better suspension and is probably a better ride, Triumph triples are love.

>>17145620

Too fucking hot man.

I'm up in North Phoenix / Scottsdale. Rode the 88-188-87 route on my dual sport last weekend and I was roasting the whole time.

Looks like I need to start heading farther North.

>>17145485
Scam confirmed. It would go for more than that wrecked either for parts or as a basis for a custom.

>>17145575
CHECK YOUR STATE DMV AND LEARN WHAT SALVAGE TITLE CODES MEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some don't matter and some cannot be re-registered. Do not rely on /dbt/. Do read chapter and verse on your DMV website or visit your local DMV then see it in writing.

>>17145702
You still have less air to fuel combustion. EFI bikes just continue to run at stoichiometric air to fuel ratio for that smaller amount of air, thus you burn less fuel, thus you make less power.

The problem is just compounded with carbs where you have less air but continue dumping the same amount of fuel in, then you both have lower power potential to begin with, and then don't have the right ratio for efficient combustion which makes even less power.

>>17145622
1999 was a mixed year and later is Twin Cam territory. Some had issues. Some of those issues were resolved. The timing chain tensioner issue on some TCs wasn't pretty.

Ignore /dbt/ for Harley info and go to vtwinforum, Harley Tech Talk, Chop Cult, and if a Sportster go to the xlforum first since it covers everything exhaustively.

http://www.v-twinforum.com/forums/twin-cam-engine/116972-cam-chain-tensioner-failure-survey-22.html

/dbt/ is not a brand specific fucking forum. It's a place to discuss buttsecks, the shittiness of Hyosung, why a DRZ/GS 500 cross would be the ultimate baiku etc.

>>17145685
Same. I wheel under normal acceleration in second down here, I couldn't even get it up in second on those tires in Moab.

>>17145797
speak for yourself, the front end came up like nothing when i tried it out

what should i use for chain maint.?
currently using an aeresol can of chain wax, though ive heard some people say they use whatever motor oil they have lying around.

what is your opinion?

>>17145814
>speak for yourself
Notice my use of 'I' you cuck

>>17145648
Bring a motorcycle compression tester (they are cheap and you want one for the rest of your wrenching life) and check both cylinders.

I expect it will read low from sitting but both should be similar. Inspect spark plugs when do compression test.

Expect to clean the carbs as in disassemble and soak. Check the petcock. If your year has a diaphragm petcock ensure rubber is still good or replace with another fuel valve.

Download a factory service manual which shouldn't be hard to find, and go to Honda forums (this is not a Honda forum) for detailed info.

They were decent machines. Tires will be harder than woodpecker lips but spend nothing on them until engine is confirmed happy and healthy.

Old white electrical connector blocks may crack or crumble but most are for assembly line convenience and many can be hard-wired.

>>17145622
Last year of the evo you faggot, the twin cams chain tensioner was never fixed only bandaided.

Seriously bad design flaw that if not maintained can completely fuck your engine without warning.

Please see

>>17145796

And fuck off

>>17145624
I could have sworn the 80s magnas and all the bikes that used the v4 had oiling issues?

>>17145828
no

fuck the fuck off

>>17145815
Wax is fine. Chain lube is fine. Oil is shit but better than nothing. Wax is cleanest. Lube in the chain pins and bushings is what matters hence the reason for chain wax/lube.

>>17145815
spray-on chain lube is the way to go.
Though I don't do chain maintenance at all so fuckit.

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>>17145820
suck it fag, git gud

>>17145797
did CC and wombat teach you how to jump finally? I asked him to

>>17145846
I already know how to jump Anon.
I had the only bike that wasn't too pigfat to jump anyways.

>>17145850
>I already know how to jump Anon.

not from the webms I've seen

>>17145853
There are no webms of me on my KX250 at Hollister, where there's multiple little motocross tracks with 10 foot doubles.

>>17145839
Holy shit you are a fucking faggot.

I love Harleys but their community and the people they attract really ruin it.

Ie, retards like you who will chimp out if you dont agree that a Vrod isnt a good bike.

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>>17145839
is quite correct.

You should see my post as advised. I've rebuilt TCs whose owners were extremely unhappy when those shoes shit the bed after warranty had passed. Search any HD forum for more info.

That said it's easy to replace them with Cyco shoes which last longer (cheap solution, periodic inspection advisable) or various improve tensioners, or if your crankshaft passes a runout check (that pressed crank is a a bean counter design) you can use a gear drive cam setup and end the problem by returning to the classic problem free design HD used since the 1930s.

Shoe in pic is not as bad as they get. They can completely disintegrate and since their next stop is the oil pump can wreak serious fuckery. If the chain munches the show spring the steel particles can slay even more shit.

>>17145868
you seem upset

kill yourself

>>17145875
Not to mention the retarded position of the primary sprocket, if youve got to replace a drive belt it is a nightmare.

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>>17145881
K

>>17145868
Ancient mechanic here. Anyone not a mechanic should close their fucking piehole on mechanical issues.

I agree on the JD community turning to shit except for the real gearheads and the people who do their own wrenching. Of course I avoid most motorcyclists who aren't like that. I avoid most people who aren't like that unless that person contains a vagina to which I desire access.

I've taught many noobs to wrench so I pass the torch as I can. Laugh at the HDchimps and Sons of Assbandity cosplaying idiots. They make juggalos look intelligent.

>watching footage of my recent crash
>sometimes it seems like I had an eternity to react
>other times it seems like I had barely a second to make an evasive maneuver

feelsbadman

>>17145900
hindsight is 20/20

>>17145900
post it

>>17145888
Nice trips.

I'd like to see RSD become standard on big twins. Baker's made them for years. Unfortunately HD kept that bit of backwards compatibility far too long. It originally permitted a stock kick starter (many British bikes were that way too) and the tradition stuck. Sportsters had RSD and easy sprocket changes in the fucking 1950s!

>Senate OKs lane splitting
>Goes to house
>dies because incompetent legislators can't do anything on time, even if it was literally saving the children
>goes back to senate
>is ruined, can only do it to the left of the left lane, where you find debris and oncoming cars
>goes to house again
>dies again
>same state that openly defies federal laws on a worthless, life-ruining herb that is illegal in the rest of the civilized world because dude weed lmao who cares if it makes you a useless human being for four hours it's so fun to do lol
>yet no city has the balls to defy state traffic law and do something that's legal in the rest of the civilized world

I hope we're in nuke range of NK

>>17145910
after i get a settlement

>>17145909
yea that's what im telling myself but its still difficult to process this

>>17145912
What is RSD?

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>>17145917
>2017
>marijuana is the devils weed!

>>17145921
what? nobody here gives a fuck or will even know who you are to have any impact on your settlement. Also if you actually did nothing wrong then it won't matter if people see it.

>>17145826
Speaking of petcocks, do they make ones with the fuel/reserve switch operated via a cable so you can change over easier while riding?

That's the sole reason I prefer FI.

>>17145935
There is literally no reason for it to be legal. Making the plant extinct would be the best solution.

>>17145935
I think you may be in the wrong place... This place is for high IQ degenerates, not brainlet degenerates...

>>17145938
making yourself extinct would be a better solution

>>17145898
Part of riding bikes is maintaining them, some love it like I do and others hate it.

If some dudes would rather ride than wrench thats cool, most of those douchebags are in it for the cool biker image and dont wrench anyway.

>>17145936
That first statement is an assumption. The other one is just plain false.

>>17145942
so why are you here again?

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>>17145944
The devils lettuce might not be as bad as cocaine, that doesnt mean its good yo.

>>17145954
how so? what bad could possibly happen from showing us a webm of a crash before some kind of insurance settlement?

>>17145912
Didnt know they did that for a kick start.

Ive never used a kickstarter.

Whats the deal with them?

>>17145960
im not addicted to cocaine I just REALLY like the smell

>>17145959
I've posted my IQ before
139
Fuck u nigger faggot