Is everyone here just poor as fuck or something First time on

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Yeah, sounds right. People here also tend to be a little more money conscious in general which isn't bad, but means that less brand new cars are going to be recommended since they take a huge hit when it comes to depreciation.

>>14291139

No not all of us are poor, I could easily put a down payment for a new car today but, Why buy a newer car and make payments on that shit than buy something that you can pay off or own, that is just as fun and use what money you have left over, and make that car better, faster, stronger.

Non car people like you op won't ever understand that.

Why the fuck would I dump more than $7000 on a new car? I'm surprised I even made it to that number.

>>14291139
9/10 people on the board are broke as fuck. They'll advise you away from nice things because their mad that they can't afford them and it's their way of making themselves feel more secure about being poor. Don't take advise from most of /o/, more than half the poor people are autistic

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>4chan
>not being 95% millennials
>millennials having money

Majority here are going to be single males 18-25 with a bachelor's or less making <$30,000. So yeah, the fuck did you expect from this place?

>>14291283
Buying a new car is a horrible idea, you're overpaying up to 10k in depreciation, it's fucking simple math you retard

>>14291139
No, we're not all poor. Yes, you're an idiot for asking what car is gud on an enthusiast forum and expecting people to give you a good practical daily driver.

>>14291283

Have fun pissing your money each and every month for your car. :^)

>>14291139
Just wait for the wage threads where everyone claims to make six figures a year

If you own a car and have internet your not poor. This board wouldn't know poor if it jumpaed up and bit you in the ass.

>>14291299
>>14291304
I'm not saying buy a new car, I drive a 2011 :^)

just don't go on acting like your 02 shitbox with 150k that is falling apart is better than a newer car because it's not

>>14291305

Everyone on 4chan has a stem degree and a six figure income.

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>>14291311
Yeah, I do make less than $30k. So do the majority here. Doesn't matter if you and some others make more. What I said is true for 4chan's demographic.

http://www.4chan.org/advertise
>Age: 18-34
>Gender: ~70% male, ~30% female

You don't get rich buying expensive liabilities

>>14291324

The problem is you implying that every car is "falling apart" because it came from the early 2000's.

>>14291139

I have plenty of money and I DD a 2000 Buick LeSabre. Why does that asspain you so?

>>14291333

???

I've never made that little in my entire adult life.

>>14291139

Those of us that have nice (newer) cars don't post them because the poors get buttmad about it. Just read the sticky and go from there.

>>14291360

Go on and post yours.

>>14291339
key word there was shitbox. There's nice cars from the early 2000s still, but no one on /o/ owns them for the most part. I believe there are cars from the 2000s that are nicer than some brand new cars. I stand behind the statement that most new cars are nicer than most of the cheapass cars half of /o/ raves about.

>>14291335
>You don't get rich buying expensive liabilities

This is the same logic millennials use to justify leasing cars they couldn't otherwise afford. That and we're supposed to be terrified of negotiations.

>>14291333

Hmm. I'm either on the very tail end of gen-X or the first class of millennials and I'm doing far better than that. That's a shocking pic desu

Its also weird how CA TX FL is less than MN, WY (wtf?), OK, NE

>>14291366
>post yours

Let's just say I have a sportscar /o/ loves to hate and leave it at that.

>>14291406
Wyoming has no state income tax.

>>14291139
Just read the fucking sticky.

I drive a sub $2k car daily, despite owning two $25k+ classics. A new car or a fancy daily driver is a waste.

>>14291876

If you live in suburbia like your average tripfag. Try doing that in a city where parking is $220 a month per car.

>>14291916
Living in a city is a better justification for NOT buying a new car.

>>14291298
Nice rare pepe

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>>14291916

>Living in a city

>>14291389
>That and we're supposed to be terrified of negotiations.

Well you guys DO suck at it desu.

I could buy a new car outright but i generally stick to a 10k budget.
No payments and depreciation are my main motivation.

I have so many friends that have been irresponsible and tried buying new BMWs and Mustangs/Camaros, then when they cant keep making payments, repo. Not everyone is like that though.

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>>14291409
I love your mustang anon.

>>14291957

>parking in a subterranean garage with 24/7 security
>bad

It's great aside from the cost.

>>14292011

Supposedly. I let a slightly used car sit on the dealer's lot for five weeks before putting an offer down. They cut about a grand off every week until it was in a reasonable zone. Their original asking price was ridiculous, though. Like 10% above msrp ridiculous. For a used car. And I refuse deal with people/dealers that "know what they got."

I made 70k after taxes in 2015. I have:
>2015 BRZ
>2005 Element
>2001 Outback VDC H6
>2000 Impreza 2.5RS

>>14292169
Still living at home I see, how's your mommas tit taste

>>14291409
Miata isn't a sports car

>>14291139
pretty much ive never had a steady job and live off benifits because strayan workforce a shit

>>14291254
>not gonna buy a new car, that's for retards
>i'm just going to buy a rustbucket and then spend money on mods
You sure are a car guy, ain't you anon?

>>14291333
Wow, didnt know I was doing so well

>>14292169
>buying a new BRZ
hows it feel to be slower than a minivan?

>>14291139
>First time on /o/ and was going to post a thread asking what car I should get
You're right you should just go ask the dealership. Get it right from the horse's mouth.

>>14292169

Seriously dude, you're bragging about owning four shitty cars. Go home.

>>14291139
just ignore the poorfags and brz/miata cucks and youll be okay. some of us actually have money and good taste.

>>14291139
I may be an exception, but I make more than triple the amount most of the board makes (110k plus bonuses) and I still don't buy brand new. I may look at new after the kitchen, bathroom, and master suite are finished, but I'm looking to pay my house off in 5 years whilst building up a couple of cars.

>>14292356
he never said new you retarded cunt

>>14292169

Have you taken that chrome junk off the fender accents on your Series.Blue yet?

>>14292271
>buying a new BRZ

He bought it used.

>>14292370
>buying a used brz
hows it feel to be slower than a late 80's sports car

>>14291406
I think we're all missing the real issue with these facts..

>~30% female

How can you trust anything that says there are women here?

>>14292168
From personal experience, most people in the 18-25 age bracket right now have no clue how to negotiate for a car. Or even understand credit/how loans works for that matter.

>>14292429
I mean, how do you go and negotiate without "tire-kicking"? Just look at offers from other dealerships? Lowball a bit to work back to a middle? How do you do that without things getting a little heated?

>>14292459
can't tell if trolling or just absolutely clueless

>>14291139
>was going to post a thread asking what car I should get

and you're a dipshit for seeking advice from strangers on an imageboard

>>14292361
Sorry M8 but usually someone who complains about someone only buying cheaper cars (7-10kish) usually only looks at new. Sorry about your butthurt over nothing.

>>14292241
>not doing any work to your own car.

Are you sure you're a Carguy mr. tripfag?

>nearest big city is four hours away
>implying i didnt take a one way rental car
>buying rare cars from a bmw dealership
Sometimes youve shown your hands before even getting on the lot.

>>14292628
>wrenching on my car fixing broken shit makes me a "true" enthusiest
things poor people say for 200, Alex.

>>14291139
The latter.

>>14291324
A 2011 what?

>>14291298
I don't understand how you people can't afford a new or newish car on a $30,000 per year income. What the hell do you people piss your money away on?

>>14291139
/o/ is 75% poor people whom think their shit box is somehow the best value out there. 25% of people have some money and could buy most cars, within reason. I for one could go buy a GTR tonight if I wanted to. But I don't want one. I could buy a corvette, but don't see the point since they are so expensive. I have a cbr1000rr, an rsx type s, 300zx with 600whp, a sweet trail bike, a work truck, an isuzu 4x4 mildly built for off road. People like different things, lurk moar faggot.

>>14292648

I bet you pay for oil changes cuck

>>14292393
>everything is about mahhh 1/4 mile
LOL

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>>14292686
>getting someone else to do menial labor for you makes you a cuckold

>>14292697
Yeah it actually does when said minimum wage flunky doesn't tighten the filter on and blows your engine or air ratchets the drain plug on and you have to pay out the ass to get it fixed.

90% of this thread is full of shit bussriders, counting on a hand me down from their parents when they get their licences. /r/ing class photo picture, the only time in the last decade everyone was required to bread or timestamp their vehicles.

we're predominately broke or smart enough to buy a house or rent a nicer home then to get stuck with financing and full coverage insurance for 3-5 years.

>>14292429

I'll admit that I'm probably an outlier, since I've worked in direct sales before. But I do know at least two people my age (30) who aren't retarded when I comes to buying cars. But the rest...

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>>14292748
all these " wat car is gud for $30k dollars" threads, all these "I have a 600hp rb26 threads". these are the only people that actually own cars on this board.

>go ahead and talk shit about an anon with a job in a 200k beater from the passenger seat of your mom's caravan. faggot.

>>14292856
Still waiting on the CCG family photo. And Dracula just sold the caddy too.....

>>14292782
30 and up isn't really all that bad. It's the 21-25 crowd right now that is truly helpless

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>>14292895
Yeah, but I bought an Excalibur to replace it.

>>14291139
everyone here is really poor I think

>>14292895
what is ccg?

>>14292927
not bad at all, series 3 phaeton? my dad worked on a lot of these back when.

>>14292927
ballin. What you pay for it?

Aut/o/ists in a nutshell:
> don't buy new cars ever, look how smart I am
> wahhh why do car manufacturers only make econoboxes and crossovers for normies and barely any sports cars
Seriously I fucking hate this hypocritical bullshit community of car enthusiasts. If a new car comes out and you like it buy it you poorfags so manufacturers make more and better cars

>>14292927
I know. Furybro here

>>14291409
toyoburu owner spotted

>>14292953
Ccg is Classic Car General, one of the containment threads on this humble Bolsheviki elite tap dancing blog. Feel free to lurk.

>>14292974
My favourite is
> as soon as you drive off the lot you lose half the value!

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>>14292993
I have the rustbucket hilux with the built 20R in the class photo don't tempt me to come lower the median value of that thread too..

>sold this to help with closing on a house. No ragrets

>>14293024
And you still have the Jeepster right? Come on by, we'd live to have you and your classics. Idk why, but I've noticed a lot higher level of maturity in CCG threads as opposed to most others outside of /k/ anyway.

>>14292953
Yep. It's a 1978 Series III. My personal favorite.

>>14292968
$25,000.00.

>>14291254
>put a down payment for a new car today but
>down payment
confirmed for poor.

>>14291299
after a decade of fucking around with cars constantly needing work, i bought a brand new base as fuck silverado for 19k, 7 years ago. not one issue to speak of and i would hop in and drive it across the country right now. best thing i've ever bought aside of my house.

>>14293044
As much as I liked the caddy, that is a very eye catching car. Going to do anything to that 454?

>>14293044
That's a fucking steal. Well I don't know where you live, but here that's a steal.

>>14293053
No real need; it was rebuilt 25k miles ago with a mild performance kit; it SHOULD be at about 425 HP.

>>14292666
Insurance is more expensive for younger people, breh. Also, gas isn't $.02 a gallon anymore.

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>>14293043
No i sold it, my cabin and all my classic gaming collection to help buy this. On 7 acres with a 2 car detached shop.

>>14293071
I'm in Houston, but the car is in Milwaukee. My father is picking it up and keeping it in my grandparents garage until the roads are clear and I can drive it down.

>>14292691
cant do good on the track without power either. unless a track day to you is an autcross gayboi

>>14292686
>not having the dealer do it
my oil alone is over 100 bucks. half an hour of labor is nothing poorfag. plus they reset my service lights. enjoy your miata

>>14293118
Then that is a fucking steal. Nice grab bro.

>>14293135
>my oil alone is over 100 bucks
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>14293139
Thanks. I couldn't resist it at the price. Unfortunately, buying it meant that I had to sell the Cadillac or the DeLorean and the Cadillac sold first.

In a few months, the DeLorean is getting swapped to a 5-speed so that I can actually enjoy it.

>>14293135
>I'm not mechanically inclined, but I can justify it on a Mongolian basket weaving forum by just saying retarded shit

depends what you want from your car OP.

sounds like you want a google driverless car. or, at least a car where you only steer.

i want the least amount of gadgets and shit my car as possible (plus looks)

>>14293135
>my oil alone is over 100 bucks.

You sure you have money becuase it sounds like you have no financial sense whatsoever.

>>14293135
Why are you posting on a board about cars when you don't know shit about cars?
More importantly, how can you justify being smug for being a retard?

>>14293135
I've owned over a million dollars worth of cars and I've changed the oil on every car myself. I also lubricate the grease points and inspect the chassis and related components while I'm at it.

I could pay someone to do this for me, but then I wouldn't be an auto enthusiast.

>>14293170
>>14293176
>>14293183
10w60 faggots. please tell me where to get that off the shelf and a cheap service tool. poorfags. im also an engineer sorry i have a job, family, and money. enjoy your shitboxes

>>14293232
i also have sportbikes and a gutted dsm i wrench on. aint nobody got time to fuck with a dd. be smug queer.

>>14293237
>engineer
Should've known lel

>>14293237
>GALLON of overpriced ripoff redline 10w60 is $50
>pays $100 for dealership garbage bulk oil
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

>>14293237
>I'm an engineer
So this post>>14293170, is right on point.

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>>14293265
Its takes 2 gallons you faggot.
kill yourself
>>14293249
>>14293317
suck my cock asswipes.

if you think changing your oil and for me voiding my powertrain warranty on a car you'll never afford makes me not an enthusiast suck my cock. I have plenty of toys to tinker with. Now go drive your miata and rave about your awesome oil change.

My buddy is a legit millionaire and he drives a 2004 miata. He also has a 911 though.

>>14293232
>menial labor=enthusiast
why are americans so gay? nowhere else do you here this meme

>>14293335
what kind of engineer?

>>14293335
You're not an engineer, you're just a faggot with a degree. There's a fine line between these two.

>>14293382
He probably makes more money than you either way

>>14293389
Not contesting that.

>>14293360
mechanical. and i have plenty of other cars i wrench including the fabled oil change. not financially worth it for this one.
>>14293382
>can't buy 10w60 and a filter cheaper than the dealer
>would have to buy service tool to reset lights
>have to waste time changing oil vs. half hour labor
>would void powertrain warranty

i may be a faggot but i'm not stupid. time is money. sorry yours is worthless.

>>14293353
You do it yourself so you know it was done correctly with care.I used to be a light wheel mechanic and have seen numerous vehicles with grease points overfilled oozing out of tie rod boots etc, oil spillage that wasn't cleaned up properly creating a grimy mess, oil filters overtightened so much the socket spins on them and I have to get the pliers out and remove it in a mangled mess. it's not about superiority it's about taking a little time to maintain something you care about to the highest standard. the junior techs working the lube line in your dealership are almost as unqualified as the dropouts at a lube shop.

>>14293353
Clearly missing the point.

Cars are my hobby. I enjoy vacuuming them, washing them, and changing the oil. It's not my FAVORITE part of the hobby, but it's satisfying to keep a fleet of vintage vehicles in working order.

>>14291139

I'm 25, make $60,000 a year, drive a 5 year old car and have a net worth north of $300,000.

If I really wanted to, I could have a $1200/mo car payment, but...that would be stupid, and I wouldn't be where I am if I were that stupid.

I'm not rich by any means though, but I'm comfortable.

>>14293424
I only let them touch the car for things which need to be documented. Changing my own oil (every 15k mind you) would hurt my resale value too as there wouldn't be proper service documentation. And would also void my warranty. Just not worth it. Worst thing that happens is they fuck up and a new engine is on them. For half an hour of labor vs. my time, lost resale, and lost warranty the obvious choice is obvious.

Just saying there are times when changing your own oil is dumb, and that does not make me any less an enthusiast. Just makes me not an idiot. People don't like to buy expensive sports cars that guys worked on themselves in their garages.

>>14293427
21 making ~50k here

how do you manage your assets that you're so young and have that kind of net worth:income ratio? been dumping ~10% (after employer match) into 401k

should i dump my gf?

>>14293427
>net worth of 300k
LOL no. EVEN if you live in a house, unless it's worth 300k and you owe NOTHING you aren't worth that. Don't be a fucking cuck.

>>14293480
He's fucking lying.

>>14293403
what car? my powertrain warranty is valid as long as I write mileage and date on the receipts for the approved fluid and filter. 10w60 suggests bmw and your maintenance would be free during the warranty period. are you the same bs engineer I called out a week ago?
>engineer maths

>>14293482
>what is equity

>>14293482
what if he started a business with a buddy and it's valued at 600k now?

>>14293500
>doesn't understand worth and equity

You stupid fuck. You get a $300k house. You will pay $550k by the time it's paid off. There is NO EQUITY in a house after all bills, taxes, and cost are calculated. Unless you bought it cash money. Go kill yourself child. equity is the houses worth. But if you owe (and have spent) more than you get it, you lose money. Fucking children.

>>14293533
>being this dumb
>doesn't understand principle and interest
>doesn't understand equity
Please stop typing in this thread.

>>14293546
.....are you full on fucking retarded?

"Equity is the difference between how much the home is worth and how much you owe on the mortgage (or mortgages, if you have a home equity loan or line of credit)."

God damn moron.

>>14293533
Frosty?

>>14293555
That's what I just said.

>There is NO EQUITY in a house after all bills, taxes, and cost are calculated
You're an idiot. You've never owned a house and you don't know what you're talking about.

>>14291139
Don't be such a Nigger. On the other hand you'll fit in here just fine newfag...

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>>14293568
LRN to context nigger lover. There is no REAL equity and worth if it's a wash, which is the entire point of the conversation. there is "equity" looking ONLY at the sale number, which is why I said "when you calculate....". Sperg.

>mfw I'm typing this in the office of the House I own outright.

>>14293580
>there is not """"real"""" equity
What the fuck are you talking about. You realize interest is calculated per payment right? Not as a whole.. you don't just owe 500k for a 300k loan it's calculated over time. Fuck you're dumb.

Every principle amount you put into your house payment is equity. Period.

>>14293596
>because everyone pays off their house early

At the end of the day, you cock raging faggot you will have spent $500k on a $300k house and PRAY the market beat that. And THEN you calculate all the cost associated with the upkeep of your shit home and realize you lost money. Are you 12?

LOL stupid shit.

>>14293533
>>14293555

the fuck are you

equity = assets minus liabilities. simple as. by the time you've paid off the house there's no liability left so your equity is the value of the house, not zero.

>>14293621
..................................................... .......... jesus christ.

>>14293630
Explain

Assets = Liabilities + Equity is accounting 101.

>>14293618
investment=/=equity
>>14293621
proper answer

>>14293711
>ONE asset is what was being discussed
>the conversation was about faggot up there's WORTH
>try to keep up

>scroll down
>OP has not posted bread on hood in his ferrari/porsche whatever

sage

The average American makes like 50k per year

Chances are most of o is average

Quit being a dick

Go to the car lounge if you want nerds to suck your dick

We won't

Ps I bet you're like people here

Ps people here are better enthusiasts than you because they look for the best car for their money and actually appreciate their cars. Fuck you dick.

Sorry I had to let you have it

>>14293480
>>14293482

I guess I should elaborate that my 9-5 job brings in $60,000.

I do marketing, web design, and IT on the side, and I've been working since high school. I also worked for a real estate guy for a bit, and invested in a different business that got me a 15% ROI.

>>14291335
Most people don't get rich no matter how financially responsible they are.

If you can afford it, buy it. Life is too short.

I'm not poor, but I drive and maintain a couple of shitboxes I've had since I was 16 so I can have plenty of money to spend on guns, ammo, quality ingredients for cooking, nice clothes, etc.

I just spent $20k remodeling my house, and this week alone I spent $18k on my mom's funeral, ceremony, burial, casket, flowers, food, dress to put her in, etc.

I also really don't like a lot of modern cars. The ones I'd be able to afford (sub-$60k) for the most part are trash, have gaudy interiors, or are simply not fun to drive. I considered buying a BMW M2, but it just didn't feel fun on the test drive.

>>14294027

Most people don't get rich because they buy shit on credit that they can't afford, because "life is too short" so they spend most of their lives working for a jackass in order to pay interest on the shit they can't afford, and have no time to enjoy.

>>14293480

I really don't have some ground breaking secret.

I just don't buy a lot of shit and I capitalize on side-jobs as much as I can. I know how to build/fix computers, use photoshop/dreamweaver, change oil/tires/brakes. That stuff adds up in an age when everyone is a hapless moron willing to pay someone else to do shit for them.

Keep your expenses as low as possible.
Pay off your debts, especially your credit cards.
Max your tax-advantaged accounts.

My biggest personal one is opportunity cost. Always consider how much you are going to get out of that thing you're about to spend money on. Always stay mindful of the fact that you can really only do one, maybe two things at once. Maybe one of your purchases can wait until you've had your fill with a current hobby keeping your interest.

Entertainment is free. Books are free, movies are free, music is free, video games are free. Legally, or illegally, you can get them all for free one way or another. And if not free, for dirt cheap. Humble Bundles, monthly Red Box movie codes, your local library, pandora, spotify, audible promotion codes, etc. etc. etc.

>>14292226
I don't live at home, sorry
>>14292271
It feels fine to me, I'm past the stage in my life where I had to be faster than everyone. Sold my 357whp MR2 to get the BRZ
>>14292308
Not bragging, just saying that while I make more than the majority of /o/, I still have /o/ cars
>>14292370
No, I actually kinda like them :(

>>14293495
yes bmw and the warranty is from the dealership. free obviously. requirement is all preventative maintenance is performed at a bmw dealer service dept. for four years of insurance against kaboom it is well worth it, plus resale value for proper records.

>>14293495
sorry z4m. 6 quarts of 10w60 plus a filter and shipping is north of $100.

>>14294054
may she rest in peace, anon.

>>14294054
Try buying BMWs that are a little older and lightly used. M3s, M4s, M5s, MZ4s, etc. BMWs past 2010 or so don't do it for me.

Also sorry about your mum.

>>14292697

>Posting on a auto forum
>working on your car is for poor people haha

What about 80% of baby boomers who work on there cars? That are expensive as fuck

>>14295528
some people just like the driving and not the wrenching
others like to wrench, and sell a 10 year resto job 6 months after it's finished
pretty broad church

>>14293495
This is illegal. You DO NOT have to do this to keep a warranty. Period. You are actually 18 and don't know anything.

>>14291283
>They'll advise you away from nice things because their mad that they can't afford them and it's their way of making themselves feel more secure about being poor.
BRZ/FRS owner detected

>>14295568
Sorry buddy. It's used. Magnuson-fox warranty act does not apply. Per the terms of the third party warranty all preventative maintenance must be performed at an authorized dealer.

>>14295568
>>14295582
even with MFWA, the burden of proof is upon the dealer/manufacturer blablah. that does not mean you don't have to provide proof of adequate maintenance as per the owners manual if something goes wrong.
>I'm old enough to have fucked your mom in high school.

>>14296014
No seriously its a third party warranty and their terms are binding. There are no ifs ands or buts about this. Free warranty on a used car dude.

>>14293108
Worth it my man. Any toys as of yet?

>>14293335
What car do you have that takes 10 quarts man? My deep sump 512 only takes 7.5 and that's with an upgraded oil capacity.

People talk a lot of shit on here. You know, how they paid for their M3 in cash and your a poorfag if you own anything less. God forbid you mention you financed a vehicle.

Then, meetup threads come up and people start complaining about the meet being to far away from them because they can't afford the gas to drive 80 miles.

So yea, /o/ in a nutshell.

>>14291409
nice frs/brz bb

>>14291916
>$220 a month per car
LOL i'd fucking kill myself
>tfw $880/month just to park my cars

>>14292308
lmao how jealous

>>14291916
>>14297912
tfw i pay $190 a month (at current exchange rates). parking dwarfs all my other car-related expenses.

>>14298006
tfw i live on a farm and pay $0 to store like 8 vehicles.

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>>14297770
Just the old yota, going to buy a vintage snowmobile to restore over the summer to putt around on and race in tired iron. a vintage snowmobile race on a river through town after the finish of the iron dog snowmobile endurance race.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WitVmygDxRY