Criminal scum shouldn't be driving, they should be in jail. Civvies get bitchu when they get pulled over. No, I don't care if your tag expired a week ago, it should've been on the car the DAY THE MONTH CHANGED. These people simply prove they're reckless, and that they don't fit in a healthy society and should be thrown in jail.
>dwi from getting caught smoking a joint on I40 >do probabtion and the required 1yr no license >sit shotgun while friends drive my ride >constantly pulled over because car is registered to someone with a suspended license >fuck you my car but not driving lol
Still, why do I have to be harrassed? I'm fucking white masterrace goddamnit.
As government grows fuckhueger and fuckhueger, your license plate becomes yet another identifier to which personal information can be attributed to in some database somewhere. Databases can be exploited always, there is no exception to this rule.
There should be no personal information tied to your license plate other than your full legal name and vehicle registration status.
Joe from down the street installs a credit card reader on the ATM at your local bank branch to steal your monies "LOCK HIM UP!" Brad from County PD installs a license plate reader on the traffic light at your local neighborhood to steal your freedom "NUTTIN TA HIDE"
>>14253835 In the era of self-driving cars, the government will just be able to instruct your car to take you to the police station instead of your set destination, or just shut the whole thing down altogether, if they find there's something that they would like you to explain.
>implying they don't just send a signal to lock you in your car until you can pay your no registration fine, the singal lock fine, the fine for being fined, and the tax for getting your registration, oh and the tax fine tax for fine taxes tax fine.
>>14254045 I don't drive unless I'm sober you dipshit. I know the rules of the road. I didn't complain about getting a ticket for expired registration because I knew it was my fault I forgot. But you'd have to be a total loser to smoke weed while driving and then think you shouldn't be punished for it.
Steve Jobs would drive around without plates because he didn't want to be tracked. He found a loophole in California law that you can drive a new car without plates for a few weeks until the plates are ready. He'd just buy a new car every few weeks. Billionaires man.
>>14253624 It seems like a presumption of guilt but will it yield results? See racial profiling where Jamal probably has crack and an unlicensed firearm on him and it gets picked up on. How do muh freedoms stack up against instances in which wrongdoing is uncovered.
While I was stationed in JApan, I kept my 240sx at my parents' house. So it could get driven every so often and kept in a garage. My mother was driving it once and got pulled over. The plate reader said the car owner(me) had an expired license. Except I didn't. I had license form the last state i was stationed in. Didn't have a license of the state my car was registered in. All of which didn't matter anyways. Since I was stationed overseas. My license never expires.
>>14254229 Literally nothing in your incoherent post makes any sense at all. You don't get a pass on registering your car because you're overseas in the military. You don't get a pass on driving a car around with expired plates because you "have another state registration" somewhere, with no proof.
>>14253750 A lot of countries that roll out this stuff also brings law in making it illegal to obscure your plate from it. In Australia the fine for driving a vehicle with a 'modified' plate is larger than not having one at all.
>>14253981 >and given enough effort the gov't could track your moves, which is invasion of privacy.
For as long as tracking technology has even existed, governments have had the capacity to spy on you if they had a mind to. Putting it in police cars slightly reduces the effort required, but it has been true that the government could track you given "enough effort" for decades.
I'd say the problem isn't that the government is capable of spying on people, it's that people, reasonably or otherwise, think that they are likely to use that capability.
>>14255415 Not him, but I don't see the point in arguing about what the problem is. We should be arguing about what the solution is.
And it starts by asking some very basic questions: >exactly what information is being collected and stored? >how long is the data stored by law enforcement after it is harvested? >how much is law enforcement paying towing companies for the information?
Then we can start making some changes to try to curb this practice. If it's illegal for a criminal to sell your SSN to the highest bidder on the internet, then why is it legal for towing companies and automotive repossession workers to sell your license plate info to the highest bidder? Why is that for sale in the first place? Furthermore why is law enforcement attributing your entire legal record to your license plate?
Unethical in practice. Little laws on retention means the cops used it as a mechanism to log everyone's location history indefinitely until it can be used against you, even if there is no reason to suspect you of a crime until months or years after the data is collected.
>>14253652 Hey, retard, you waived your right to the 4th amendment when you plead guilty. That was a stipulation on the piece of paper you signed after the judge informed you of the conditions of your criminal probation or were you too stoned when he was talking to you, bruh?
ITT people forgetting why these things were needed in the first place
>mexicans and nigs without insurance >scum driving around with no registration/inspection >faggots driving around with expired licenses
If people would just get their shit together there never would have been an urgent need for these things. Blame the scum of the US. >but I can't afford registration >better post to FB on my $600iphone Can't afford to run and maintain a car? Get a bicycle or a scooter. Even poor cambodians can afford that.
>>14256277 These things were never "needed." An officer of the law could still determine the legality of your license and registration after pulling you over; no special camera needed. It's an advancement of technology that makes it easier for the government to violate your privacy.
>>14256300 They aren't violating your privacy at all. You are using a state registered motor vehicle that requires a license and insurance to drive. You are using said vehicle in a public space. It was MORE of a vilation to single people out because they only singled out black people and "poor" looking people. Now everyone is on the same field. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it bad. >helicopters are violating my privacy >radios violate my privacy >scanning my DL into the computer violates my privacy >a database of criminals violates my privacy
>>14256319 It would be fine if our license and registration status should be the only data points associated with your license plate, but they are not. Just because you are glib on the subject matter doesn't make it alright.
The amount of total government cucks on this board is alarming. This is why a police state is imminent.
I don't understand why everyone is freaking the fuck out. If they start trying to take away our shit and actually doing stuff, then We The People will fight back with our guns. That's the whole point of the second ammendment. We can afford to let little things like this that DO serve a legitimate purpose in some instances, slip, because we have the ability to destroy said system if we need to. The real worry is if we are still able to abolish our government if the need arises.
Making it easier for cops to read license plates is not preventing that you paranoid fucks. Go back to /pol/.
>it is completely okay for the police to have a database containing the complete vehicle location history of hundreds of millions of private citizens.. because they chose to drove on public roads
>it is completely okay for the police to have a database containing the complete smartphone location history of hundreds of millions of private citizens.. because they chose to live in an era where we're really really scared of muslims
Welcome to Government Cuckholding 101. Please open your textbooks, and turn to "Chapter 1: Nothing to Hide."
>>14258569 >"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
>>14255477 Not government CCTVs...>>14256211 >The name and address of the registered car owner is not personal information it is public information, just like your criminal history. >You can literally go to the DMV and look up names and addresses of license plates yourself. Literally isn't. Some cholo broke down in a van in my yard and took weeks to come pick it up, and the cops got nervous as fuck when I tried to figure out where he lived so I could dolly it to his house.
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