Us version of dagumi would be a pizza delivery boy of his parents or fathers pizza shop he can deliver anywhere in the large county in under 30 mins or less but the county is a bunch of mountain roads in the middle of nowhere he borrows his dads ecoboost mustang :^) to deliver pizzas
>>14235250 That's why I thought neon srt4 It's pretty decent but nobody ever respects it or cares about it aside from select people It has some racing fame It's basically just an upscale econobox like the ae86
>>14235228 Why not? A Foxbody is almost an American version of the AE86.
>blocky, wedge-shaped 80's box on wheels with a mid-generation facelift >2 door coupe and 3 door hatchback variants >a bunch of different trims, only the top level is actually desirable (5.0 GT, 4A-GE GT-S/GT-APEX) >live rear axle >huge following to this day >not all that great stock at all >primarily used for one thing (Foxbodies for straight line speed/drag machines, Corollas for DORIFUTOOOO) >still popular thirty years after its end of production
>>14235250 To be fair, in the US we don't really HAVE 'underdog cars.' Japan loves taking one car- Corolla, Skyline, Civic, what have you- and making a bunch of different versions of it: four door sedan, five door wagon, two door coupe with performance-oriented variants, etc. In the States it's usually always been a manufacturer has dedicated shitboxes and dedicated higher end models/sports cars, no overlap other than the special snowflakes like the Regal T-type or Hurst/Olds Cutlasses.
The problem with the American drag muscle car version Is the fact that it boils down to just hp numbers >>14235223 So with this that mustang would have to be heavily modified so it kinda looses the appeal of dagumi outskilling his appointments with a less powerful car
>>14235917 Initial D started in 1995 with 'an aging Sprinter Trueno' that was on sale starting in 1983 and ending in 1987. That puts it from 8-13 years, which the Focus SVT ZX3 fits perfectly. Plus, hatchback, four-cylinder, pair it up with some shitty beat down pizza/chinese place and an angsty teenager listening to electro music and you have a winning combo.
>>14235115 Not a bad shout, but it'd be nice to fit rwd in there somewhere. Not because of which is "better", but because struggling to control oversteer is a lot more interesting to watch than struggling to control understeer.
I agree that the Mustang just wouldn't be quite right though, somehow. We want something light, nimble, often overlooked and down on power.
set in the 80s (because the fucking 80s that's why). Half asian kid's father owns tofu store outside L.A. he has to deliver tofu to restaurants and individuals up in the hills (this gives city driving and mountain passes)
mid 70s pontiac lemans with de smogged 455.
There would be other street racing gangs, and two cops on motorcyles that chased him. One of the cops would be a mexican-american.
>>14237965 Because it's fucking 2016 not 2004 and takumi using that to race is the equivalent of using a chevelle in initial d or a 280zx You're going for superficial elements and not the actual spirit of the car
>>14237873 I think the Fox body is the best suggestion so far. It fits the exact description of the hachiroku, minus the engine. What's wrong with it? Ford is closer to being American toyota than any other of the big 3.
I however nominate the AMC Spirit GT >lightweight >N/A V8 >people tune the suspension and engine a fuck ton >breaks traction quite easily >used a lot in racing I was tempted to say the Spirit GL Kammback because it had an I4 and I6 available, but it's just not sporty enough.
>>14237965 >t's an underdog in modern times, eh? ever been to a drag racing circuit. The fox body is in no way an underdog, if you have ever held a wrench, you know the foxbody has a huge aftermarket and is one of the goto cars for cheap power.
The wierd thing is, i can't think of many american made cars that were practical, near entry level and handled at all well or had power options.
Never mind I've got.. Eagle SX4 he has to deliver tofu to people in denver during snow storms!.. or maybe just the eagle spirit amx in dry conditions.
>>14237978 The spirit of the car is cheap and forgotten no? As far as the actual age of the car, well its alot cheaper to have an old car in the united states than in japan. So I think the actual age of the car is not that important.
Also, Toyota had several other sports cars, but the 86 was basically a corolla hatchback with some performance tuning. Similarly, AMC has the javelin and AMX gremlin (much bigger V8 available than the spirit), and the spirit is part of their economy lineup, with the AMX being its performance variant.
Takumi (would be named something like Tyler, Ikutsuki would be Ian, seeing as how they are all slightly less common names) would definitely deliver pizzas, I can't think of a better parallel.
Are we looking for a car to fulfill an adaption of the twisty road idea, or >>14235212 The highway racing idea? If it was 2016, it would need to be a 10 year old shitbox from an American brand, with low entry costs and a high ceiling for modification.
An s197 mustang makes the most sense I think, for both categories. A foxbody is just too old.
Gotta be something RWD and driftable, because you're not winning a highway race as an underdog. So the exact opposite of our mindset back in the late 80's. Foxbody works pretty good, because they're kinda crap without mods like the 86 is. But then again the whole mystique of the 86 arose after ID, while this version would be launching at a time when everyone knows the Fox is one of the cheapest ways to go fast.
Make him drive a fucking G-Body from the 80's. Some years and models had just 10 horses more then the 86 did, and thats with the largest V8 available. The suspension was as apathetic as a McDonalds worker at 3am. Though they looked pretty damn slick.
I have fifty '85 Cutlasses I need to sell, so some weeaboo deception would really help.
>>14240530 But the 86 was known as a good car for the mountains at the start of ID, just outclassed by current machines. Itsuki was saving up for one even during the first episode. If I had a friend who was saving money for a PT Cruiser I'd call a fucking medical journal, because I'd have just found a new form of mental retardation.
>>14240684 Because that's an actual sports car and it's a fucking classic car at that point It's too God damn old and isn't an underdog >>14240686 This is the only explanation. Everyone is autistic over rwd
>>14240703 >fucking classic car at that point And the 86 isn't? >actual sports car No normal person would look at a fox bod and consider it a sports car just like how everyone thought the 86 was a shitbox in Initial D
What's your point Why are you shilling for Mustang so hard ? Even just Mustang alone automatically disqualifies the foxbody because it's too much of a sports car The ase86 is just a sporty trim of corolla
>>14240813 >Your post makes no sense You said the AE86 wasn't 30 years old in initial D and the foxbody is too old, yet they are of similar ages and Initial D takes place in the late 90s/early 2000s so neither would be 30 years old. >Why are you shilling for Mustang so hard ? The same could be said for you, why are you shilling for the Neon so hard? I don't even like mustangs desu kek
>>14240928 Look at the suggestions in the thread No one cares about the OP. I'm not even the guy you initially were talking to. You're just ridiculously autistic if you're bringing up 2016 when everyone clearly doesn't give a shit A fucking neon? L M A O famiglia Are you OP? You sure are a faggot regardless
Forget drag, and forget the idea that the cars all have to be domestics. The US is full of imports, one of the best things about an American version of Initial D would be international diversity in cars. Here's my take:
The main character lives in the west San Fernando valley, and delivers pizzas to houses in the Santa Monica mountains and the coast on the other side of them. His father was one of the old Mulholland racers.
He drives an E36 M3 with a lightly tuned US-spec motor and decent suspension work. I think the E36 fits the bill well, it's the right age, right relative performance compared to newer cars, RWD, and is the performance model of a very common car in the area. The motor gets replaced with a built euro-spec motor when he blows the first one up.
Itsuki gets a 325i when he buys a car.
Iketani and Kenji drive 4th gen Mustangs.
>Akagi gets replaced by GMR.
The Takahashi brothers drive Porsches. Those seem like appropriate cars for rich enthusiast kids, especially since one is becoming a doctor, and the relative performance is about right. Keisuke's is a 997 or 991 GT3, Ryousuke's is a 964 or 993. Both are heavily tuned.
Kenta drives a 5th gent Mustang.
>Myogi becomes Angeles Crest.
Nakazato drives a GDB STI
Shingo drives an 8th gen Civic SI.
>Not sure which other roads to use for what.
I'm torn about Impact Blue, another Mustang would make sense but I don't know how I feel about it. How about an S2000?
Emperor still drive Evos, just newer ones.
Kai drives an early Elise, which gets replaced by a new Exige when he returns later in the series.
Bunta buys a Focus RS to replace the E36.
Most of the Hondas in the series are replaced by newer versions. God Hand's S2000 stays an S2000.
>>14241096 Compared to more modern stuff it is, though.
The AE86 was a credible performance car of its time as well, with a lot of motorsports history and stuff, but it was just underpowered and outdated by the time of Initial D. The E36 is kind of the same way, it's slow as hell compared to newer AWD sports sedans and the like.
It's hard to come up with a direct comparison, since modern direct equivalents of the 86 are basically worthless as performance cars, the E36 was the closest I could come, and the only one that I think has a reasonable chance of beating the opposition.
yes it's a heavy piece of shit, but it filled the same market segment in the US that the ae86 did in japan. reliable, affordable by every middle class household and reasonable to hand down to your son. a neon srt4 would never work, it's FWD. sure it's probably faster than the crown vic, but the point is that there's no reason to even tune an FWD shitbox. at least with a crown vic you could just put a stupidly large motor in there or something, and then there's the added element of basically wrangling a car that's poorly balanced and unfriendly to drive. an SRT4 is a better performing car than the crown victoria but it's not a "better" car than a crown victoria in a more holistic sense, and that's really what the ae86 in initial D represents (at least in the first stage).
foxbody mustang would also be an acceptable answer, but only because it would be so old that his father would have bought it used. it absolutely would make sense for a car that Jaden (the most likely american name for takumi) would drive, but if his father could afford a new mustang they wouldn't be living basically on the edge of poverty
>>14240987 M3 is too good of a car. Its the ultimate driving machine (TM) for gods sake, and I dont think American Bunta could have afforded one when it was new. Though an E36 would be good. An E30 might be better, because its pretty much the German 86 (at least from where we're looking now). Same era, roughly the same power, not that quick, but it handles good and likes skids. Plus its a hell of a lot better looking then then the E36. Itsuki buys a 324d, thinking its faster then Takumi's 318i cause larger numbers. Throw in some catfish Camaros to replace some of the generic Silvia drivers or Impact Blue. The Cappucino is a tuned Suzuki Aveo or a Kia shitbox to elicit the same "Are you fucking kidding me?" reaction. Im thinking Bunta should buy an AWD German car that isnt a bimmer, so Takumi can still think "Holy fuck this thing is better then my car in every single way."
>>14235115 I deliver pizza and drive a neon. On all levels but physical I am takumi.
It's clear to me that the people ITT are not on the same page. A foxbody would be great for an initial d set in America at the same time as the original show, because it would be 13 years old and going up against 4th gen camaros and trans ams. It's an underdog because of age.
For an American show set in 2016 the srt4 i think is pretty comparable to the ae86 because it's 10 years out of date and looks like a shitbox.
The problem is none of this would work at all because there's nowhere to drift and no American cars are particularly good at it anyway so it would be drag races that would just come down to numbers.
>>14244209 I learned from Takumi's mistake and bagged myself a satsuki when the oppurtunity came. Satsuki is her name right? the best girl navigator in the sileighty? My gf is near identical in looks and personality.
Oh god. It's kind of sick really. I actually based my occupation and gf off of a shitty Japanese cartoon about cars. I never really realized how pathetic it was.
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