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ITT; we talk about what tires we are running, share experiences and thoughts, and we also shitpost loudly about how winter tires are a meme

Summer; Toyo Proxes T1R, 205/55/16
Good grip in both wet and dry, but they are loud and have high rolling resistance
Winter; Nokian Hakkapeliitta 7, 195/65/15
Best winter tire on the market when it was released, and so far I have never had to give up getting anywhere. I will never go for a tire with less traction than this has on ice and snow
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Sumitomo HTR A/S P01

The newer HTR A/S P02 are not available in my 14 inch size. Nonetheless these work extremely well. Grip in the dry is more than enough for my car but grip in the wet is absolutely fantastic due to it's all season construction with silica compounds in the tread.
I got a good impression from the company so I got my mum 4 HTR ZIII for her 2.5L Mazda3. Grip is good. Her car has a really low geared first gear (auto) so it really accelerates fast from standstill - if the tyres can grip. And they do well
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>>14192646
winter tires ARE a meme though

Summer: Yokohama S.Drive 235/40/17
best dry grip for the price range. also has massive scuff guards on the lip
but sidewall is a little mushy and theyre loud

Winter: Yokohama S.Drive 235/40/17
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>>14192729
I think they should just cease trying to sell Dunlop-branded tires here, from what I've been told they are not selling all that well... the Sumitomo brand could potentially do a lot better with proper marketing

>>14192787
How is the noise?
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Anyone can give me some info on Toyo Proxes CF-2s or CF-1s?
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>>14192832
the 235/40 is the largest tire you can get under a nc fender which worked out because the s.drives are the cheapest in that weird size
and I had the s.drives on my daily and liked them and thought theyd be great for the mx5

I was wrong
honestly wont buy them again. they are really loud
the noise seems a lot worse in the mx5 because of its total lack of sound deadening mat.

all the old men at miata.net circle jerk the shit out of this tire and idk why
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>>14192895
>the largest tire you can get under a nc fender
i meant under a stock fender

no phonebooks for me
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>>14192646
So are general tires rebranded as nokian? Because I swear those are general altimax Arctics
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What's a good 275/35 tire? I need something that grips when cold, quiet is a plus.
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245/60 r15 bfg radial t/a
Havent died hooning my truck yet so I guess they're breddy gud.

Never had traction issues that werent caused intentionally.

Winter ill be running 30x9.5 bfg all terrains, once I get around to mounting them up.
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>>14192906
Nope, not as far as I know. General is owned by Continental, and Continental has nothing to do with Nokian to the best of my knowledge

Could you be confusing the Altimax Arctics and the Nordman 5's? Nordman is Nokians "economy" brand
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>>14192938
> sideways
SAMSUNG PLEASE
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>>14192944
General are just the only ones who make that style of tread in merica I guess.
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Michelin pilot supers ports - 275/35/19

Goddamn I love these. The grip in dry and wet is phenomenal. Anything short of dedicated track tires just didn't match up for me. Bit pricey though.
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I'm running General Altimax Arctics on the drive axle of my Bonneville. Rear axle is Michelin Energy Saver A/S's.
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bfgoodrich g force or bridgestone potenza all seasons?
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>>14193577
I always heard they last long too, relatively speaking. Any truth to it?
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>>14194284
Yes, I run them on my 5.0 and always get over 20k miles. I had a set of Pirellis that lasted only 12k. A great deal when you do the math.
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>>14194284
maybe google the treadwear for super sports?

oh, your a retarded child that doesnt know what treadwear rating or google is?
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>>14192787

I just ordered 4 Yokohama s drives

245/35/19 front
255/40/19 rear

Hoy do you like them?
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>>14194572
see
>>14192895
theyre great grip for the money but loud on a miata
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>>14194284
they do last a long time, but it all depends on what you're comparing them to. Compare them to tires of similar performance and you'll find that they do quite well, if you have some money to spare.
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295/30/19 pilot super sport all around.
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>>14194540
Nigga shut the fuck up and go to bed
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So what's a recommendation for budget summer performance tires? I don't care about noise or wet performance as much, and my budget is 500-600 for the set.
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I'm rocking four $60 sunny tires, shit wheelspins like crazy.

215/60/16
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I have 335/30/18 R7s on my C5. 225/45/15 A7s on my NB. And my Focus tires are stock Goodyears.
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BFG A/T KO

have served me very well in the past 4-5 months of owning them. Been ranging from mud to snowy gravel pits; haven't gotten stuck yet. No serious mud, yet.
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I've got some nice 235/85/16 wildcats made in 2005 on my truck, still hold the required 80psi for the rear, and gotten me through dry sand and ice with no real problems. Although that's probably more because of the 4x4
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>>14194972
>225/45/15 on my NB
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>>14193831

bfgoodrich. Goat mode all season specializing in wet. There are better summer and perf tires but after sliding around too much on wet roads I made the jump
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>>14193577
>>14194672
How cold does it get where you live and what are mpss like in those conditions?
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>Set of 4 tires is $840 dollars not including shipping
End me.
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Michelin Pilot Power 2CT's on my supermoto wheels.

Dunlop D606 120/90-18 rear and Pirelli MT21 90/90-21 front in my cart for when I get around to depositing cash for my DRZ's dirt wheels.

Random brand new all seasons that came on the RPF-1's on my Miata.

Toyo AutoX slicks that came on my stock Miata wheels.

Random all seasons that came on the 17" nigga rims that came on my Miata.

Random 35" A/T tires that came on the AR Baja's on my Ranger..

Random all seasons that came on my stock Ranger wheels.

>fuck I have a lot of wheels
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>>14194572
>>14192895

Loudness was the main complaint I was worried about , o well i shall see how loud they are on a g35
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Anyone know how shit Mazzini, Fulda and Autogrip are? It's whats on my car at the minute and I don't know if changing the tyres would be worth it.
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>>14195368
If you have three different tires on at once, changing the tires would definitely be worth it.
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>>14192646
Nitto Invo 245/45/r17
They work great in the rain, and work pretty good in the dry. Would buy again. I might be able to find a receipt if someone needs it for something important. I think I paid ~130 per tire then spent another 60-70 getting it put on.
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>>14195411
also after reading the thread, those tires are quiet as fuck just like nitto claimed on their website. I really expected them to straight up lie because I had 555's and 555r's before, the r's made literally no noise the 555's got noisy.
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>>14195390
'Mazzini Eco605' tyres on the front, back left is 'Fulda Sport Control' and back right is 'Autogrip Grip200' tyre. Thing is they're 235 section so would be expensive to replace.

I'm in the UK where it rains all the time, and I can't afford to have a second set of wheels to swap out between summer and winter. I'd get winter tyres but I hear they wear super quick in summer.
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>>14195086
Eh...it doesn't get as cold as fucking wisconsin here but illinois gets some cold weather. Definitely below zero. These are summer tires......it should go without saying that you should take care in snow. The slightest bit of snow will turn you into drift machine.

As for just general cold days, I haven't had a problem.

It still feels grippy even in cold compared to some of the other SUMMER tires I've owned (Yokohama advan sports I used the longest, but i've used potenzas). But the keyword is other SUMMER tires, so take that as you will.

I think around 15 degrees is where I would draw the line. Past taht, you'll start getting tailwags if you put on the gas pulling out of a neighborhood. If you're driving normally (as in like everyone else), you won't have too much of a problem. But summer tires in the cold on a high powered torquey RWD loses some serious grip when temperatures drop too much.

You'd have to experience it to learn the limits. Just don't expect to be able to start pulling 2g turns in the cold.
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>>14195496
Any cracking?
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>>14195523
Anecdotal evidence as always but I've used them down to about 15-20 degrees and i've had to dig my car out of snow and shit. Haven't seen cracking yet.

I've heard stories about how the vette c07s that come with the mpss cup 2s have had serious cracking problems, not sure if they put something different in those.

Anyway, it's always a risk with summer tires because of how hard they get during the winter so if you live somewhere cold as fuck, don't risk it. If you're going below....say...15-20...i wouldn't push your luck.
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Summer: Goodyear GT2 165/80/13

Winter: Continental ContiIceContact 155/80/13 in the rear and Barum Norpolaris 165/70/13 in the front.

They all were cheap.
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>>14195754
>Barum
Sounds dangerous
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>>14196628
Decent budget tires.
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Sumitomo HTR A/S P02

lel all-seasons
They have somewhat less dry lateral grip compared to the Federals I had before, but they make up for it with great wet grip and don't hydroplane.

The Feds also wore out incredibly fast, I only had them for 8 months, but they were mixed with worn Conti Procontact OEMs on the rear, and my front ARB is disconnected, which probably didn't help
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>>14192944
>Nokians "economy" brand

Isn't that like a dollar store having a discount outlet?
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>>14196840
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Tire company's are Jews. Pic related shows a comparison of my OEM tire vs two different sizes of MPSS. These two sizes of MPSS have basically the same dimensions yet the OEM size is $88 more expensive. I advise you to buy tires based on measured tread width and actual O.D. not the labeled section width and aspect ratio.

For more reading about this topic here is a link.
http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/3974/How-to-PROPERLY-select-and-size-TIRES-for-PERFORMANCE.aspx
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>>14192646
>Have slow leak
>Go in to get it sorted after like 2 days
>Guys takes off the tyre
>THREE bulges on the inside edge
>Inside is full of tyre dust
>End up buying 2 new front tyres because the other one wasn't in great shape either (1mm off legal limit)
>Spend 30 minutes standing around discussing the finer points of why Peugeot sucks
>Leave with permission to use their lift (when it's quiet and it's currently very busy) for free to fix the brakes on my E46

I really like small garages with only 2 or 3 staff. Dude had a Renault 5 Turbo and Series 1 Land Rover round the back (in shit shape) and a Discovery 1 diesel and a Spitfire up front (in decent shape) for £1000 each
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P zero nero all seasons

Amazing grip in dry and wet
Zero hydroplaning
Not super loud

9/10 would recommend.
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Summer: to be bought
Winter: 195/60/15 Hakkapeliitta 8
Some real grip here, just waiting for to get on a ice track.

>pic related
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>>14193577

I have Nexen on the S54 M3. They were on when I got the car years back. They are cheap and I don't feel guilty rubbing them off quickly.

I daily my car. About 800 miles a week. How long would Pilot Super Sports last? I am very spirited in my driving. No drifting or burnout stuff unless it's not intentional.

I just put Pilot Sport AS3's on my Acura TSX. They are incredible in the wet but I'm down over 50 miles a tank with them. Girlfriend has the car now.
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>>14196628
They're decent overall, but the Continentals are noticeably better (ran them in the front and the Barums in the back last winter).
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>Have old corolla
>Tires do fine 95% of the time
>The other 5% of the time it's pouring on the interstate and I'm hydroplaning pretty bad
>On some shitty milestar things, still got lots of tread

Can I get tires that do a better job of moving water and still enjoy low rolling resistance and not have to replace them every 30k miles?
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>>14196850
£55 a corner for 225/45R18 not budget.
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>>14197867
Majority of hydroplaning is caused by under inflation
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>>14196921
New tyres should always go on the back.
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>>14197971
I had just aired them up to ~40 psi a few weeks before. They aren't losing air and my mileage hasn't gone down.
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>>14197971
what a stupid fucking thing to claim without sources
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>between late November and late February it's usually too cold for summer tires
>but still get days or even weeks in that time period where it's in the 70's+
>get snow on the ground maybe a few days out of the years
>sometimes get snow up to a couple weeks straight in one sitting
>never enough to feel like winter tires are worth getting
>the rare snow we get sucks on summer tires

What's the best course of action here? I delivered pizzas in my mustang with summer tires through two weeks of snow last year and it sucked. Had to do 'burnouts' to dig myself out of the snow several times each night. I'd like to be more prepared this year but snow tires just seem like a silly investment given how little we need them around here. Should I just get some used all-seasons and call it a day? I understand just how much better snow tires are in their intended use but it's just really hard to justify them. Summer tires just aren't much fun in the snow or even the sub-50's we're getting right now. But then, it was 80 something on Christmas and could well be 80 something again next week with the way our weather goes.

Fuck.
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I'll be moving up to Nebraska in a week from Florida for 4 months. I've got about 40k miles on my current standard tires, and I was wondering what my best bet for winter driving would be. I'm either thinking of getting cheap winter tires, and then replacing them with good 3-season tires afterwards, or just buying good 4-season tires and some chains of I need. Also what are some good / bad companies and tires to look out for?

Thanks
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Should I get R888s for my BRZ /o/? Just on the rear with some Proxy's on the front?
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>>14194540
wtf is your problem? Maybe get something to eat?
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>>>14192646
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What is the purpose of the trend towards larger wheels on small lightweight cars made for acceleration and not top end speed (like the ND)?

Pros for bigger wheels on samll lightweight cars:
>looks (opinion)
>better tire selection (being shilled by more popular heavy ass can't turns)
>cheaper to produce than smaller WIDER wheels with similar tire widths /205-225/ and aspect ratio /45/ (fine)
>big brake kits (really?? Just buy better pads and maybe pistons/rotors)
>better top end (don't need it)
>quicker to stop because wheels are heavier (making the car heavier? Again better pads or pistons)

Cons:
>WAY slower acceleration
>WAY slower to steering inputs, especially countersteer
>WAY less grip at lower speeds/transitions (treads are optimized for higher speeds on larger wheels)
>Heavier, more unsprung weight
>More rotational mass (means need more power to rotate even if lighter)
>Cost more of everything $$

Why
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>>14198686
I want slightly larger wheels on my econobox so my gears are longer. 3k at 80mph ain't fun.
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>>14198697
Change the final drive maybe?
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>>14198686
fuck off back to your shitty thread

people will put whatever awful wheels they think look good on their car

manufacturers will continue to put large wheels on cars

theres nothing to do about it autismo
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>>14198720
Sure, if you wanna fund it.
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>>14198686
I blame the 90s 2000s rap era
>rimz
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I'm running General Altimax Arctics without studs and went to 14'' steelies. Not much snow this year but they have been incredible in it.
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What's a good tire for a 14" rim? I know some manufacturers have moved away from this size so it's getting harder to find decent replacements...

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>>14193577
What do you run them on? I been thinking of getting them. I have a vette that's 500 ish to the wheels and my hankook garbage v12s come loose too easy. So far only have like 10k miles on them and tread is wearing down, so I'll be replacing them soon. I know the zr1 vette uses them, but I never heard anything from anyone about them.
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>>14192646
almost done with these set of RE71R on my daily.

Pros: grip for days
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>>14192646
switching to these guys on my RX8
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car had 90s goodyear eagles when i bought it
they were cracked badly so i bought 4x Cooper RS3-A , they are really good for the price.
Then i bought a pair of ET Drags on rims, local classifieds deal, didnt have a chance to get a good jack to take at the track so i didnt get to try them before the racing season ended.
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>>14200324
forgot:
225-55-16 on the Coopers
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A month ago I got Bridgestone Potenza RE760's, 235/45/17. I used to have RE030's that came pretty new with a set of wheels I bought a year ago, and these are a substantial improvement even on a shitbox like mine. They're a little quieter and comfier but they grip like absolute fucking hell, and they have almost the same super easy feedback as they progress from gripping to barely holding on to losing it. Even when you get way too ambitious with your cornering, you feel them scrabbling but the car still stays in line, only if you keep trying to push and push and push will they finally let go.

I'm now at a point where my suspension can't keep up and I need to upgrade. So goes the cycle.
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I run Hoosiers
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>>14200782
... your suspension can't keep up wth 340 treadwear rocks?
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>>14192646
>T1R
>Good Grip on wet roads

nah son, I have these and I regret my choice everytime it rains
Next i'll get a set of Falken ZE914, much better on the wet, and cheap
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>>14200860
Well, the roads where I like to drive most are bumpy and uneven with fairy tight & short turns and inconsistent camber, really good at unsettling the car. It already leans more than I'd like, and mid-turn in the harder sections the car gets a bounce in it's suspension a bit earlier than when the tires get near their limit. Everywhere else it isn't a problem, but my favorite happens to be the least smooth. It is just an Accord, and I've got sway bars, springs and dampers from a CL-S but they're only a marginal improvement over stock and not really meant for a proper grippy tire. A thicker sway bar would probably sort me out but I want to get proper springs & dampers.
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>>14201091
people use properly grippy tires on stock suspension all the time
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>>14201290
Then maybe "Can't keep up" isn't the right wording. I just want MORE TIGHTER
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>>14201461
the best (most expensive) dampers you can afford
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>>14192787

How are winter tires a meme?
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>>14201494
fortune auto
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>>14201514
walking is fun too
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>>14201536
fortune auto coilovers are penskes without the pricetag
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>>14192787
>S.Drive
>Best dry grip for the price range
Lol, no. Not even close. It's a great all around tire: it's basically a super high performance all season, but it's not in the same league as even the Federal 595 RS-R, which is the absolute poverty level fast tire.
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>>14201586
>poverty level

That's a good way to describe them
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>>14201559
Feal is Fortune Auto without the shit.
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>>14200324
Running the RS3-A's here, too. 225/40/18. Had 'em for 20k miles, now. Good bang for the buck, but wet grip is kinda iffy, and they're loud. Might switch to Michelin Pilot Sport AS3's.
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I've been running these for a while. I'd give them 8.5/10
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About to order 4 Pirelli P Zero Nero's because I'm sick of my car sliding around in the rain, before I pull the trigger, is there anything better for the price?
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>>14201586
in that size it actually is the best for its price

if you could read you wouldnt have posted that

because i live where it rains

the federal's wet grip is laughable

please read more than one word before replying


>>14202424
anything better than a pzero?

no
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>>14192787
Move to Sweden and try to run summer tiers in the winter.
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Will be putting these 205/50 R15 on my TE37 for my Miata. I wish that winter would be over soon.
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