Brakes

It's time for me to replace my brake pads and I was wondering what you fags thought. I am trying to decide between EBC Green Stuff ($128) and Hawk HPS ($137). Also I will be replacing my fluid with Motul RBF 600 ($19) and having my rotors turned/resurfaced. My car is a daily driver that I autocross a couple of times a year. The cost difference for a full set of pads isn't really that much so I am asking for your experiences, opinions, and anecdotal evidence.

ITT opinions of what works best on their specific caliper, rotor, car weight, and driving habits.

>muh ebc
>muh hawk
>muh raybestos
>muh motul
>muh castrol
>muh superblue

>inb4 "hawk hps and motul rbf660 cuz i heard it online"

you really did it this time op

>>14184022
I have been doing some more reading and it seams I should also consider the Stoptech street performance brake pads ($106).

I just bought a set of OEM pads for $28 including shipping. They work great and are quiet. Why not OEM bro?

>>14185648
Severe brake fade at the autocross events.

>>14185797
>brake fade
>autocross
lol no

>>14184930
I ran the stoptech full ceramic pads and their rotors on 3 of my 4 cars. Good rotors, pads are nice for the first 20k, then a bit of glazing forms and I sand with a foam block the pad surface to break the glaze.

My 4th car uses EBC Greenstuff pads and they do quite well, stops 3500 lbs fine. If you really want better braking though guys, swap drums for discs and go bigger with more pistons per caliper.

>>14185805
Then my stock pads are just that shit. On the 40-50 second courses they are fine. but in the 70-80 second courses I get alot of fade at the end.

>>14185829
thanks for you imput

I have a 8mm wrench for brake bleeding, but I can't get it to turn. It looks like it's wearing out too. Switch to socket for turning and then back to wrench for the easy part?

Why dont people use sockets?

>>14184022
hawk hps are shit

>>14183986
To get the most out of your brakes, you need good tires. Until you get a good set of tires, "high performance" pads and rotors will do absolutely nothing for you, and may even increase your stopping distance.

>>14185928
to break it down further, if you can lock up your tires/activate ABS with your current pads, new pads will do nothing. You will NEED better tires before you can improve your braking system.

>>14185928
>>14185939
I agree. Tires are the most important part of your vehicle. Brakes stop the wheel, tires stop the car.

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For my track setup I I run a Brembo 4-piston in the front with Porterfield pads
>>14185928
^this, tires are everything. Without good tires, ANY modification you do to increase the performance of your car will be meaningless.

You guys are going to love the sweet embrace of asbestos dust for your racing needs with Endless brake pads

>>14183986
>no stainless steel brake lines

should be included in their and first

after good tires

>>14186138
I put a high performance stereo in my car, and it was just meh.
After I got a good set of tires is when it really came to life.

>>14183986
Was just about to make this same thread, thanks op

Been doing a lot of research and realized big brake kits aren't worth it unless you endurance track a lot of laps. Also slotted and drilled rotors gave no performance boost with the quality of modern rotors.

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Had a 2003 VW Passat, now a 2010 Audi A4

Absolutely LOVE the combination of Zimmerman rotors and Akebono Euro ceramic brake pads. They stop quickly, wear well, and pic very related

>>14186861

>tfw I burn off brake pads every 6 months and my wheels don't even look like your OE image

>>14186883
This

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>>14183986
>not buying brake pads based soly on the fact that their team has an itasha drift car...
plebs.

Akebono are the best pads for a daily driver.


Prove me wrong.

>drum brakes dragging hard enough to hold my car on a steep incline without touching the pedal
>adjust and readjust 4 times
>settle for absolute shit braking with no/very little dragging

I think I'll just buy a disc conversion kit.

>>14186930
What piece of shit has drum brakes in 2016?

>>14186905
i have pmu parking brake shoes for the z32 but i haven't thrown them on since shes ded

>>14186905
Project Mu seems bretty gud

>>14186938
It's 45 years old senpai, and also light as fuck so when the drums were working right it was pretty good. The linings are probably shot and the drums are definitely warped. That's why I considered a conversion kit, since it probably needs a bunch of new brake stuff anyway.

>>14186861
placebo effect is real
you cannot stop any faster than your tires can grip the road

>>14186930
On most cars you can retrofit other OEM parts to do a conversion for cheap. I'll be doing the rear brakes from an S10 blazer for mine, and it damn near bolts on to classic Chevys

>>14186964
Thanks for endangering everyone else on the road with your 45 year old unmaintained shitbox

>>14186978
You're welcome, but clearly I'm going to fix it.

>they dont have brembos

>>14186998
>they don't have Wilwoods

>>14187004
>>14186998

>they don't have 245/40/17 streetable race tires

Is it true that some euro cars use rotors that are made of metal that's softer than the brake pad metal?

>>14187130
>they're not running on semi-slicks

>>14187169>>14187130

>they don't have hover cars

>>14184022
carbotech xp10 front and xp8 rear with centric/stoptech slotted rotors are pretty great combo. I'd grab a seperate set of 1521's for street to not get the nasty screeching though

>>14185845
What car? My Fiesta ST's stock pads are that level of garbage, and the aftermarket seems to be sadly lacking as well. (I think I'm gonna try the new Mountune ones next, they seem to be the most promising streetable pads on the market.)

>>14187175
>they don't have an interdimensional portal gun

>>14187281
>They don't exist simultaneously everywhere at all times

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>>14186949
>>14186905
I've loved mine so far. Got the brakes hot enough to melt the caliper seal on the rear left, and still got 0 fade. Also plenty of pad left after about an hour on track.

they're noisy and dust like crazy, but ya, these are by no means street pads anyways.

>>14187425
actually more like 2 and a half hours on track, and only used like 10% of the pads at most.

>>14186969
You can if your brakes work well within your tires' limits

>>14185928
>>14185939
>>14186969

Are you guys trolling or just autistic?

Not that tires aren't the single most important upgrade you can make to a car, but pad upgrades are about fade, not about first-time stopping distance. Pretty much any brake setup can lock up any streetable tire once, upgraded pads give you the ability to slow the car down again and again in succession and maintain pedal feel and consistency while doing it. That concern is pretty much completely unrelated to tire choice. (Aside from having to brake less with good tires since you can carry more speed into the corner.)

>brakes squeak
>takes more pressure to brake
Needs new pads, right?

Put some EBC greens on my civic.
Braking power is really nice in bad weather.