Report from The Sun (yes I know it's a tabloid) outlining a so far disastrous start to the new Top Gear with Evans
-Evans apparently crashed a brand new Jaguar tester on his first time around the famed Top Gear track.
-The show “has had to become a lot more PC following the Clarkson row,” which will likely disappoint fans of Top Gear’s edgy humor but shouldn’t surprise anyone considering how much trouble it was always in before.
-Evans, called a “control freak,” is at odds with producers; he wants total ownership over the show like longtime producer Andy Wilman had but the BBC says there’s too much at stake for a show worth “more than £50 million a year” in merchandising, live events and other revenue sources.
-The BBC wants Evans to give up his radio work to focus on Top Gear, and Evans hasn’t been willing to do that. Evans also apparently isn’t very good at pre-recorded videos, which is all Top Gear is.
-The production team apparently “doesn’t know anything about cars,” leading the Top Gear magazine staff to be brought in to suggest ideas.
-The mainstream public isn’t as excited about Coulthard, Schmitz and Harris as we are: “The appointments came after big names including Zoë Ball, Jodie Kidd and Suzi Perry had all been linked to the revamped show before they ruled themselves out.”
-The story says Evans wants them because they’re relative unknowns outside the car world, and he wants to stay the star of the show.
-BBC brass are "freaked out" over the prospect of having to compete head to head with the old TG cast on their new Amazon show
All in all, sounds like they are about to wrap this fucking show around a tree in a glorious firestorm of failure. Sabina being a contributor is literally the only thing I saw as the least bit interesting. I feel like Clarkson, Hammond, and May must be laughing all the the way to the fucking bank on this
I know the BBC wanted Clarkson gone but I imagine losing May and Hammond was a catastrophe for them. Top Gear is one of their top 3 biggest shows worldwide, right alongside Doctor Who, and losing all of the show's stars is a recipe for disaster. They put up with Clarkson's shit for a long time too because they knew he was valuable.
Who knows how the new Top Gear will do. Obviously the BBC wants to be more in control of the show, and if Evans ends up being an asshole to work with they'll fire him faster than they did with Clarkson.
On the other hand, I don't think that Clarkson's Amazon show will be anything near what Top Gear was. They had loads of money and loads of talent to work with at BBC, I don't think they will have nearly as much with Amazon.
>They had loads of money and loads of talent to work with at BBC, I don't think they will have nearly as much with Amazon.
Amazon if giving them 7 Million an episode just for the shows budget:
I remember when he was a guest on Top Gear he dead seriously says about his California something along the lines of "I love sharing the car with the public, I even let my gardener look at it sometimes," what a clown. Of course it's going to be a disaster.
>Guys we need to be SO PROGRESSIVE with the new Top Gear!
>The leading man should be gay!
>And we'll have a woman!
>I dunno, and Chris Harris, I guess? That'll do
I bet they're all scratching their fucking heads wondering why things are going to shit. Chris Harris was a great idea, Sabine was alright, but I can't stand Evans. It's blatantly obvious they went for a quota approach though.
So the Amazon show is only getting 1 episode a month? I'd rather they make it bi-weekly and bring the budget down to 3 million, which is still TWICE the budget of a Top Gear episode. And they did some pretty amazing shit on that show.
Harris has become a neat little money whore.
He did alright videos, but I'm starting to dislike the character the bloke shows.
> plis supurt patreon 4 utub bids
Hasn't put out any more videos than he used to, in fact even less, yet keeps taking in all the money he cans.
Back with that JF faggot. TG. Doing ads for auctioneers disguised as videos on is channel.
Lad managed to create a proper racket.
He's a British nationalist in a post-manufacturing Britain. I think it hurts him to realize that all the great British marques are foreign owned.
I hear Jaguar is going to install a toilet feature.
>Stuck with a dickhead
>Amazon's new show
>With three of the most popular car journalists
BBC might as well off their Top Gear franchise if they don't want to see their costs surpassing their income
>mfw it tanks and firing Clarkson is the start of the death of British TV
call me a foolish optimist, but I don't think the budget will change the chemistry
>all people care about is internet drama
To be expected of faggots who still watch TG. It stopped being a program for car people like a decade ago, it's just yet another "scripted reality" show.
Chemistry, no. I'm just hoping they don't jump the shark with more staged garbage. Having a larger budget isn't necessarily a bad thing, but some of their best segments were lower budget ones.
Yeah, the guy who refuses to go quietly into the PC, feminazi bullshit world. Clarkson should be hoisted on shoulders and paraded around town. I'm not saying you have to agree with him on politics or whatever, but the man was a fucking MAN in this world of cucks. I'm so glad he's gone from the bullshit. Online streaming is like the internet right now. FREEDOM. I hop top gear dies a horrific death and Amazon Gear makes them millions.
I also wonder if the Trio's new show will be a hit. Bbc was a national public telivision show with a mirror on us cable and sattelite providers. Amazon is the stepchild of the streaming services that you get as a bonus after you pay for free shipping.
Who has amazon?
no-one has amazon.
but everyone fucking loves the trio. they will either pirate it to watch it or get amazon just for them.
not even joking, they are that popular.
BBC shot itself in the foot trying to be all progressive
>the moment they lost the 3
they were fucked the moment they lost clackson
they knew a massive shitstorm would happen when they fired him, thats why he was given so much leeway in the past
i'd even go as far as to say that they were at least aware that hammond and may could leave when they cut clarkson off. And with how popular TG was on Netflix/Hulu, I'd even go further and say that the idea of him/them getting bought up by a streaming service online at least popped up in one of their heads at one point
However I bet they put all their chips on the notion that "oh they're old they'll probably just retire for good"
To be fair, his punchup happened outside of work, at the end of the day.
They should have let the 2 men handle it on their own terms, instead of trying to be all politically correct.
Guess what, men fight. Fucking deal with it.
But BBC had to live up to it's name of being all progressive and now look, they're FUCKED.
>no-one has amazon
Yeah it's only the most popular company in the world. lol. And a fuck load of people have amazon prime which gives you access to the streaming. I GUARANTEE more people have amazon prime than had BBC.
Do they? I don't know, but my point is....amazon could be a literal nobody, the moment they picked up the trio they got guaranteed subscribers.
Their views will skyrocket now.
Topgear was loved by everyone all over the world and nothing's going to change except a bigger budget!
Clarkson, hammond and may made the show, not the topgear name.
...you clearly know nothing about amazon. They will pick up SOME subscribers, but they have a retarded amount of customers.
(amazon has more than netflix)
I honestly don't, i said that in my last post.
My point was though, a literal no name company could pick them up and instantly be successful.
The fact a company with a big budget picked them up only makes it better.
I pirated it because you couldn't get it here in the states. However, with Amazon I will happily pay to support it so it continues. Also you get a TON of shit with prime. You can pirate it or spend a couple bucks a month to support the fellas. IDGAF if they become billionaires. They entertain millions and STUCK TOGETHER. They are what everyone should strive to be. Loyal. I'll support them all day.
desu I would let sabine blow me while I cruze around the nurburgring in my stanced E36
How much did the Christmas specials cost to make? I can't imagine it cost more then 100k to ship the crew out somewhere and buy some used cars.
The Burma and Vietnam specials hold a special place in my heart.
British TV killed itself. I never understood the die-hard following shows like Dr. Who have. The writing and acting seem poor, the plot is... an acquired taste, and it just seems like a show that should've died back in the 80's.
Monty Python was great, and like much of the early Simpsons seemed to predict the future.
I really can't find a British TV show that is good. That being said, it's hard to find a TV show in general that's good. Most of modern television is "reality" TV, or poorly-acted and writted crime dramas like NCIS or CSI.
I don't care. Chris Evans is a shithead ginger northern scumbag, and I refuse to watch anything he's in.
It's not Top Gear without Clarkson. At all. And it'll be dead without the banter and with language barriers.
> Going PC
> No rebellion against the BBC Agenda
They may as well have a tranny presenting a segment on bicycles.
> Losing big names like crazy
That's what you get for trying to get them.
I'm following Jezza to Amazon Prime. They've got the old production team with the knowledge, they've got the presenters' knowledge of cars, and Jezza's been filming Top Gear since before Chris Evans was even born.
i think tv watching normies want comfy rather than good.
so you get the archers and last of the summer wine and doctor who and coronation street and top of the pops and antiques roadshow and gardeners world and they run and run and run forever even though the original cast died of old age, and there's a nation-up-in-arms shitstorm if a long runner gets axed.
Presumably they'd have cost a hell of a lot more if not for the way Jezza is super popular among the british armed forces.
> Hello, is that the SAS? Yes, we'd like to borrow some of your people. We're filming a show in the middle east. Yeah, Iraq, Syria, that sort of thing.
> No, no, we're not insane. Wait, you want HOW much?
> Would it help if I mentioned this was Top Gear? That you'll get to meet Jeremy Clarkson?
> Oh, okay, that's much more reasonable.
> Sure, we'll give some of your guys a lift home out of there as well.
> And we'll pad out the camera crew with some intelligence guys to drop off, sure.
> Hello, it's Top Gear. May we borrow your top secret testing ground?
> We're going to drive a used rally car around it.
> Oh, we'll need some of your vehicles too.
> And the crews.
> And to film them.
> Oh, and we want you to shoot at our car while you're doing it.
> Yeah, I figured it was imp... You will?
> Shit, I thought he was just bullshitting us. Guess we'll have to draw lots to find a cameraman willing to be shot at.
Dunno if any of you lot have read Richard Porter's "And on That Bombshell", but it provides quite a lot of interesting insight into how the show used to work.
Basically, Clarkson was always a spectacular control freak, and new Top Gear was his baby. Everyone else spent a most of their time realising, improving and presenting HIS ideas. The reason the show worked, Porter reckons, is because he was a lot better at his job than people give him credit for, and because the production team recognised this and saw how their own talents fitted in.
Thus, it doesn't matter of Evans is a control freak, provided he has a good, clear vision for the show and a team of talented people around him to make it happen. Does he? We shall have to wait and see.
Most of the old TG production team abandoned the BBC when Hammond and May left. They're now currently working on the Amazon show.
The new TG "production team" knowing nothing about cars is absolute kek and I so dearly hope TG crashes and burns and all we're left with is the magazine and website.
I pay for Prime but I've never used the streaming service. I will once the Clarkson show comes on though.
My brother pays for it and uses it mostly for streaming in addition to netflix.
That's not really fair. Britain has made a lot of very good dramas recently, replete with good writing, acting and camerawork. Don't know if any of you watched that televisation of An Inspector Calls a couple of months back, but it was absolutely killer.
Thing is, none of that stuff makes it back to the states because you're making an awful lot of your own good television, so you don't really need any more, I think.
>amazons top gear will be like old one, except bigger budget
>there will be no bbc cucks telling them what they can and can't do
it's gonna be glorious
This anon has a point, it did become a scripted reality show. I couldn't stand the little "funny segments" complete with that fucking reality show music. You know what I'm talking about.
That isn't to say the show wasn't still good, the specials stayed great, I just hope they keep doing shitty car challenges even with the huge budget.
And no matter what it will never be as bad as the average TLC reality show. God help us if it ever comes to that.
what is your favourite Top Gear challenge ?
>I really can't find a British TV show that is good
some of the older police procedurals priddy good
and you may like scrap heap challenge even tho it is a bit contrived
that and its a promotional opportunity for the army
so long as there is someone to keep clarkson in check
>It's blatantly obvious they went for a quota approach though.
100% this, I'm all for the best man for the job but a perfect lineup of 1 white male, 1 non-white male and 1 woman just stinks of quotas.
I reckon that new Top Gear is going to be a lot like old old Top Gear. Actual consumer reports, a focus on the everyman and probably an electric car section every week. The biggest issue is going to be replacing the chemistry the original 3 have.
I don't watch British TV anymore. I stopped watching Dr Who this year since watching from the 80s, due the the appalling state of the writing. It was never good, but it's somehow become 400% worse despite a better Doctor carrying the show. With the loss of Top Gear and Dr. Who, I have no reason to watch TV anymore.
All that's left is normalfag shite, like Eastenders and Sherlock. I just wish the BBC would take chances instead of going with safe, PC, dramas every single time.
Chris Evans of course its going to be shit. He ruined Wogan's BBC Radio 2 breakfast show, he got way too big for his own good with Ginger productions where he was allegedly sending his staff out to buy cocaine for him. Dumping Clackson for him hasn't really removed a powder keg from the show just put more of there eggs in one 18 hour bendering basket with a history of not showing up for work.
David Coulthard can drive but his F1 presenting shows he's no host.
Sabine can be entertaining but her last car show didn't last long.
As for Harris I'd rather cut my own testacies off and eat them raw than watch him.
He was big in the 90s, married Billie Pipper, was found a few weeks after that under a stripper at Spearmint Rhino after spending the previous 18 hours drinking and allegedly taking illegal drugs, before totally going off the deep end.
Yes, that's rather obtuse.
Found the story:
They compared a 138hp bmw 318ti to a Miata and a 285hp Camaro Z28.
The only thing I gained from this test was... you could buy a Camaro for entry level prices in those days.
>ok. what sort of shows?
Breakfast show on Radio 2, it's generic top 40 crap mixed with "golden oldies" for middle aged punters. It's not awful, but he's several orders of magnitude worse than the guy he replaced (Terry Wogan)
>who? is she hot?
In a generic bimbo kinda way, yeah.
>sounds like a cuck
He acts like a right fanny every time I've seen him on TV, he's got very little charisma.
>>married Billie Pipperwho? is she hot?
Teen pop star.
This will most likely happen, it will be much more of an entertainment related show now, it needs to appeal to more of an audience now to get their monies worth, the scripted stuff is going to go through the roof
been changing the channel to avoid chris evans' stupid gurning mug since the fucking 90s. he's not current culture, he belongs in a museum.
Clarkson reported the matter to the BBC heads himself, he knew what he was doing.
He'll be making more working for Amazon in one season of the new show than he would have over 10 years with the Beeb.
They already have signed with Amazon, rumor is that they're already filming.
Dude, Amazon is worth more than BBC's holdings are all together, the literally can throw money at it to make sure its a success.
>several orders of magnitude worse than the guy he replaced (Terry Wogan)
In all fairness, Terry Wogan is an absolute legend, and anyone would be orders of magnitude worse.
Evans has, however, flat-out ruined the only regular radio station I can tolerate listening to.
Not as annoying as her replacement. At least she had tits to look at while you tuned out her rambling.
Exactly. The BBC LOOKS like it has a lot of customers, but it's just because it's bundled in with the 100000 other stations no one watches in most countries.
>rumor is that they're already filming.
They tweated a few picks months back on location the the 918, P1 and LaFerrari withe the film crew (most of them also ex-BBC).
It probably lost £35 million a year when they didn't renew the contracts, the rest will be whiped out the first time Chris Harris is on screen, I mean come on did noone at the BBC look at the shit he put on youtube?
>Road and Track
>hired a 35 year old autistic furfag who doesn't know what a main cap is to write for them
>anything other than shit tier
Vietnam Special is great. It's Long Way Round, only much more interesting, fun and comfy.
God, Long Way Round/Down was boring.
>we're going around the world
>on bikes designed in a lab to do just that
I liked a lot of the small challenges they did like May and Hammond working as taxi drivers who arrive on scooters and drive you home in your car.
As for episode long challenges the road works in 24 hours, 24hr endurance race, and MR Italian super car on a budget are all up there.
Series 6 episode 9 if anyone cares to watch. Can't find it on YouTube.
You can always share it with someone else. Their family thing means you can share the prime shipping with a few accounts, but the books, music, and video stuff can only be accessed by the main account.
>hard to find a tv show in general that is good
Where have you been for the past decade m8? We are living in a golden age of television
>house of cards
>sons of anarchy
>game of thrones
>bad news everyone?!
i-i think it might be okay. I mean it will never be the old top gear, that show is gone; But we still will probably have the stig and stars in reasonably priced cars. And what new possibilities, many budget, and such established hoonery could amazon wow us with
>holy shit deze nigs send mes packages
Hopefully the BBC top gear will be more like the normal show was (but different) and the new amazon show will be more like the specials, good car buddy fun in neat locations.
the question is can we have enough room in our burgers for two car shows?
i found it very instructive in terms of what not to do.
it's been over a decade since LWR aired, and yet you'll still see 'adventure' bikes with 400lbs of metal boxes falling over like dominos on a totally flat field.
>Top Gear budget
Pic fucking related
>Alright, so they gave us 5 mil to blow.
>We had this big thing planned, but we ended up buying two dozen clapped out Mopars and the contents of a Harbor Freight warehouse
>We're going to try and get some of the cars running, then take them off some jumps out in the desert. Do some autocross and drag stuff with them if we have time.
I had the same problem with The Wire,stoped watching it after about 4 episodes they were all the same.
Some men talking about committing crimes
Some other men talking about stopping them committing crimes
A brit pretending to be American.