Sporty shitboxes thread. If you don't like them, then

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>>11369832

i-is that a turbo

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>>11369866

[spoiler]it is[/spoiler]

It was 230hp of turbocharged American fury in 1990! And people say the US can't build sporty 4 cylinders.

Here's another.. the Cutlass Calais Quad 442. 200 naturally aspirated HP 4cyl.

every foxbody
every miata
every f-body
every bmw

>>11369899

Every V6 Maxima.

>>11369823
Yay ontario

>>11369908
all japanese products**

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>>11369823
Got to mess with one once. Most fun I've had driving up and down town doing the speed limit

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Muh turbo shitboxes

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these have the potential to give much newer Type-R's a run for their money, at least in terms of handling characteristics

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Micra super turbo!

>>11369961

That's breddy neat looking.

>>11369971
Would you consider an 80's cavalier as a sporty shitbox?

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>>11369971
Late 80s- early 90's turbo shitboxes were great, this is a Daihatsu Charade GTT-i turbo - 1 litre, with 100hp lol

>>11369986

Probably. They look fucking great, though. They look like they should be RWD.

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>>11369823
The best

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>>11369996
Not him, but early vauxhall cavaliers were RWD, maybe not so great looking though.

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you may ask youself

>what is different from the 323 this nigga posts all the time

there was a version with 144 PS and a V6 inside
vrem vrem

at what PS does "sporty" start?

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>>11370021

That reminds me a lot of the 70s Pontiac Sunbird Formula/Chevy Monza.

>>11370030
>at what PS does "sporty" start?

sporty isn't a horsepower rating. it's a state of mind.

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>>11370037
We're getting there, we have Opel monzas, this Firenza HF looks more like that one though.

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>>11370043
well then...

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This is getting like the carpark at macdonalds.

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I've posted enough Vauxhalls now though

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>>11370055

I think it's funny how there's all these baby 'muscle car' derivatives in Europe. Where we got the car with a shit-tier 120hp 305cid V8, they got a downsized version with an 90hp I4 or something to that effect.

No doubt the Opel Rekord Sprint is a great example of that.

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>>11370125

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>>11370102
are you sure?

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>>11370130

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>>11370104
This is the smallest RWD one I can think of, 2.3 slant four engine 135hp
Its a chevette HSR

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>>11370140

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>>11370152

>>11370163
>ARRET

froggy pic detected

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>>11370133
The 90's were a magical time for euro speedshitboxes

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>>11370163

>>11370179
>implyimg 510 are shitboxes

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>>11369922
>top speeds of over 100mph

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>>11370170
>ARRET
what?

>>11370195

Look at the stop sign in your pic there.

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>>11370186
>implying they aren't

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>>11370174
Opel/Vauxhall shitboxes through the ages
Or GM at this stage, heres your Saturn L series

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>>11370198
the internet is a magical thing to utilize

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>>11370206

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>>11370203
>tfw want to buy opel omega B as my first car
>either slow as shit because heavy or gettin ass raped by fuel and insurance because of strong engine to make up against the heavy chassis

life is pain.
here, have a Astra G OPC

>>11370217

I remember when GTPGay use to shitpost on here and he would never stop talking about his Starlet.

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>you will never own a 2dr, 3.0, 5sp Tempo GLS

Why even live.

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>>11370261
>tfw you will never own a clean Escort GT 5 speed

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>>11370275

>£13k of classic turbo Ford Escort.

Do the US fords get so expensive?

>>11370315

No, in fact nobody wants US-spec Escorts.

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>>11370275
>tfw no EXP

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>TWENTY THOUSAND POUNDS

It's strange, it only seems to happen with fords here.

w-what about sporty shityachts?

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>>11370388
>tfw >>11370224

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>>11370431

Our Euro yachts would be dwarfed by a US one

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>>11370275

>not having based turbo version

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Surprisingly sporty shitbox.

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>>11370479
Euro landyacht bruh, help me.
I am not sure if the Omega would be good for me.
They always say it's made for comfy crusing, not for being sporty, but I don't want no bmw 3 or bmw 5 or so, and I like the Omegas looks and it has safety features.

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>>11370553
It's true, their a comfy barge, nothing really sporty about them. I'm not sure if suspension upgrades would help, but it's possible.

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>>11370612
will I ever be cool and drift

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>>11369823
does this count?

There is one local to me. if the guy ever answers his email i'll own one.

>>11370651
not too serious with this post.
I just want to know how it's like to own something RWD and something "special", while most of my friends go for hatches, a landbarge would be something interesting

>>11370655
what engine?

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>>11369986
>>11369996
>>11370021
>>11370037
This is the epitome of the 80's

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>Sporty
check

>shitboxes
check

>>11370838
Oho

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>>11370696
but that isn't nearly wedge or cocaine enough

now THIS is the epitome of the 80s

>>11370874
DAT tiger claw marks.... UNF

>>11370275
>tfw friend has one of these
>tfw he doesnt maintain it and generally treats it like a pos

Welp

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>>11370696
>Those wheels

>>11370668
not him but those had a 2.3 turbo

>>11370655
Those aren't really shitboxes though pretty dam advanced actually.
I wish someone would buy mine.

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>>11370696
Z24 is love.

If I had space for about 10 more shitboxes, it'd be one of them.

>>11369911


>Yay ontario


I pity you, it's the shittiest of all Canadian provinces including Queerbekistan...

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>yfw GM calls the 300hp w-body impala a sports sedan

http://www.gmfleet.com/chevrolet/impala-limited-sports-sedan.html

>>11370275
Uncle has one.
>>11370351
Guy in NY trying to sell 3 of them as project/parts cars.
>>11370655
Was hoping to see one of these.
>>11371625
If I had money I'd buy it from you br/o/.

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>>11369878
Had a 90 Beretta GTZ and a 92 Olds Achieva SCX W41

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BRRRRRRRRRPPPTTTTT *ksshhh* BRRRRTTPPTPTTTPP *ksshh*

>>11369823
That V6 was so much fun to drive.... and such a PITA to do any work on.
It's a love it or hate it thing.

>>11372421

The Beretta GTZ is cute. I wouldn't mind having one.

>>11370251
>>11370514
Mah nigga

>>11370275
>Based Mazda design
>Based Miata engine

Should be good for about 275whp after a turbo, right?

>>11377100
>Mazda design.
yes and no. Ford did exterior, and interior styling, the 1.9L SOHC I4 of base models, and the automatic transmission.
Everything else was Mazda.

>>11377134
Mazda did everything that mattered, the 2nd gen escort was essentially a Mazda 323 for all intents and purposes. The GT Model is the one you want, coming with a Mazda-designed 5 speed and a 1.8L I4 Nearly identical to that found in the NA2 Miata.
You can actually swap the Escort GT motor into the Miata after rerouting some coolant stuff.

>I now want a turbocharged Escort GT

This is what it feels like when you know your dreams can never come true.

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good thread

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>>11369832
Now, I do love me a sporty shitbox with an inhaler!

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>>11377555
>good thread

>>11377611

That's a cute little car. I love those tiny hood scoops.

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1987 Alliance GTA
[spoiler]I'm the Anon with the '87 Hatchback[/spoiler]

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>>11377623
oh u

seriously though, it's always M this, AMG that, Porsche something, Corvette something else while nobody gives these little shitboxes of joy the time of day. that makes me sad.

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>>11377807

I sort of prefer the shitboxes, honestly. That goes for shitty muscle cars, too.

The only fancy car I'd ever consider owning is an SLS.

>>11377827
This, except replace SLS with Gallardo.

>>11377844
>choosing the guh-lard-dough over the SLS

I should kill you.

>>11377855
>choosing autotragic over god-tier manual
We're even

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>TFW No Escort GT
>TFW No 323 GTX
>TFW No Geo Storm
>TFW No Sentra SE-R
>TFW No Nissan Pulsar

>TFW All of the fun, light, sporty shitboxes have rusted away to nothing.
>TFW No car company will ever make a sub-compact sporty car again

>>11377827
>I sort of prefer shitboxes
damn nigga.
All day erry day.
Shitboxes are just more fun because no one would expect the power in such a small shitcar

>>11377867

Sure, but at least I chose something that is, at the very least, a muscle car. You've chosen some sort of horrifying display of vanity.

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>>11377876
>see pic

>>11377880
I chose lego. EVERYTHING is easy to work on.

>>11377878

Not only that, but you can afford to jam huge power into one, blow it up, and move on to the next one without feeling TOO guilty.

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>I came

>>11377887
>2600 lbs
>Light
By today's standards, sure. But not in comparison to good cars.

>>11377880
>>11377887
The lego-like build of my Saturn was actually a huge factor in getting it.
My last car was an LQ1. I didn't want another car that would be a nightmare to work on. My Saturn is 10 times easier to work on than your autotragic trailerpark special.
That said, I do like your car. But this Saturn is the easiest thing to work on ever.

>>11377913
>My Saturn is 10 times easier to work on than your autotragic trailerpark special.

The thing is, my trailerpark special rarely needs working on. Right now is the exception since it needs a 4th gear assembly and solenoids, but I could STILL put a battery in it today and put a fierce hurting on your lego machine.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/4703341946.html

Relevant?

I saw the cleanest dodge shadow when I was in PA last weekend.

I LITERALLY WANT EVERY SHITTUBOXU IN THIS FUCKING THREAD
SHIT

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>>11377938
damn nigga

>>11377943
>tfw

>>11377932
Neither does my Saturn. It's never broken down with anything that couldn't be explained by my stupidity or the previous owner's. The biggest thing I've done to it was replace the transmission which was pretty fucked when I got the car. No problems since.

>>11377938
GET THAT!
>>11377943
IKTFB

>>11377887
It's a cookie cutter 5-door hatchback that isn't particularly exciting nowadays. It's not exactly light, small, or simple.

In the 80's car manufacturers seemed to do stupid shit just for the fun of it.

>"Gull wing doors? lolk"
>"Quasi micro-wagon convertible thing? No probs" >>11377893
>"Make it literally a brick? Why not?"

>>11377938
Related, found in my area:
http://limaohio.craigslist.org/cto/4728908033.html
>Dat SHO V6

>>11377902
>this >>11377887 is considered lightweight at 2600 lbs
>pic related weights between 1100kg and 1400kg and is a eurobarge
fucking what
are cars obese again

>>11377957
>replaced transmission

gm quality lmao

>>11377978
The transmission isn't that Saturn VTI shit or some terribad GM Hydramatic.
The Transmission is a Getrag 5 speed made in Italy.
How the previous owner managed to fuck an F23 is beyond me. But a replacement was just $200 from a junkyard with a warranty.

>>11377993
>GM Hydramatic.

That's terribly vague. Every GM transmission since the 70s has been branded a HydraMatic, even with the nomenclature of 4T60 and 4L60.

>>11377993

I've mulled over doing the Getrag swap in the GTP, but the cost outweighs my interest.

>>11378013
Well, he said is wasn't a /terrible/ hydramatic.

>>11378013

The easy way to tell which ones are good is to look for the ones which end with big numbers.

TH350
TH400 - ✓

4T65E
4T80E - ✓

THM400
THM425 - ✓

4L60E
4L80E - ✓

etc.

And unfortunately, I own two of the BAD hydramatics.

Go me.

>>11378015
My Saturn Came with a Getrag F23 5 speed manual from the factory. The F23 is known for being near bulletproof so how the PO fucked it is beyond my grasp.
>>11378037
This as well. My LQ1 Z34 has a 4T60E

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>240hp tarbo V6
>0-60 6.3 seconds
>luxobarge that can compete with murricans
saw one for sale not that long ago but too probs too expensive and didnt see the phone number anyway

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>>11378037

>TH350

Nothing wrong with that except that it's 3 gears.

>4T65

Garbage.

>THM400

How does that differ from the TH400?

>4L60E

Eh.... it's not bad if you build it up.

>TH400 - ✓
>4T80E - ✓
>THM425 - ✓
>4L80E - ✓

While those /are/ good, they're also all large and heavy and tend to sap power - which isn't usually good unless you're planning to brute force everything with ludicrous power.

>>11378061

The TH350 is weaker than a TH400, at least when you're working with a torquey motor, especially big blocks.

The THM400 is FWD and the THM425 is a better FWD trans. They used those in the big block FWDs.

>While those /are/ good, they're also all large and heavy and tend to sap power

I swear people blow this problem way out of proportion. If you're running an auto trans, it's going to be heavy and sap power. If you don't want that, run a rock crusher and shut yer mouth.

>>11378037

The THM425 was a bastard child that never should have been. Good luck finding parts.

>>11378088

It was stronger than the THM400, and definitely stronger than the THM325 that ended up replacing it.

>>11378077

Yes, autos are heavier and sap more power than manuals, but using a bigger transmission compounds the problem more than building up a smaller transmission. Between, say, the 350 and the 400, it's not so drastic, but just look up there between the 4T60 and 4T80. That IS a major difference.

Also, an exception to the rule of bigger number = better: THM 200-4R. WAY better than a 700r4/4L60.

>>11378103

The 200-4R is shit, though. None of the overdrive transmissions with the exception of the 4L80E could really be described as "good".

>>11378111

>The 200-4R is shit, though.

You take that back you... you... double nigger!

>>11378145
A better insult would be to call him a nigger fucker and an automatic humper.

>>11378111
Still better than 700R4/4L60E

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>>11378171
>a nigger fucker and an automatic humper.

>>11378061
>brute force everything with ludicrous power
the best method for anything. god bless america

>>11378145
>double nigger

such an underrated insult

>>11378201
It's well known on /o/ your fetish for nigger women and autotragics.

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These things. God damn they're ridiculously fast off the mark for such an old car.

>>11378285
>your fetish

That's such a hateful word.

>>11378847
no, it's the truth. Everyone has a fetish because plain sex gets boring.

>>11378847

>That's such a hateful word.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fetish

>Something sexual or nonsexual, such as an object or a part of the body, which arouses sexual desire or is necessary for one to reach full sexual satisfaction.

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>>11378857

I was just saying. Don't need to come at my neck about it.

More shitboxes.

>>11378930

Yes I know what it means you.. you... DOUBLE NIGGER.

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>>11378931
Fetish is not a hateful word. Faggot is, but I'm not bitching about boycotting all of 4chan.

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Does /o/ like these?

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>>11378955

How can you get this trolled by me? Even after you've been here so long?

>>11378982
aspergers. Literally. I don't understand or read social cues properly.

>>11378991

To be fair, plain text has -NO- social cues whatsoever other than context.

>>11378978
Twincharged, sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiZFNbkBURw

>>11379000
Context and be interpreted many different ways

>>11379062

Exactly. Purely text-based communication is fucking awful. It almost makes everyone seem autistic because there are no social cues. Perfectly normal people can't communicate worth a fuck without body language, vocal inflection, facial expressions, and so on.

>>11379079
And for someone who is already deficient in those areas...

>>11379097

Exactly. I never fault someone for misunderstanding shit on here because it's so damned easy. It happens constantly.

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>>11379114
anyways. Let's get away from how easy it is to troll me, and get back to posting sporty shitboxes.

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sort your shit mitsu

pls

>>11370179
moron

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>>11379257

>>11379151
>Twin dual cam

I never knew GM came out with quadruple overhead cam engines.

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>>11379390
It was a weird bastard of an engine.
3.1L pushrod V6 block (bored out a little)
24 valve DOHC heads
timing belt and a timing chain

>>11379414
That thing looks like it would be a real pain in the ass to work on. I mean this is kinda hypocritical coming from the guy with an L81, but still... what a bizarre engine.

I looked a bit deeper into the ad, surprised to see something like this even existed in the early 1990s. 210 horsepower? 5-speed manual? American? Fucking based GM.

>>11379414
>engines that got on the right path and got OHC

this is my fetish

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>>11379455
I own one. Can confirm it's a pain in the ass to work on.
8 hours to change the alternator.

It is the first American designed and built DOHC V6. The Taurus SHO engine was designed and built in Japan, unlike this.

The manual was offered from 1991-1993. Sales of the manual cars were abysmal (about 3k a year per model) so from 94-97, it was automatic only.
The Funny thing is the engine was heavily detuned FOR the automatic. In pre-production, it made 281 HP, but the high revving bastard kept destroying every FWD automatic they thew at it.

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>>11379490

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Before the SHO, Ford built a 4 cylinder, 5 speed 1st gen Taurus. A few even came as wagons.

>>11369823
This is my favourite thread ever

>>11372564
This is what I say to people when they ask why I got a Fiesta ST.

Boy is it fun to fang around on dirt roads in.

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>>11372421
I have a manual 95 olds achieva s, how much of a difference is there between it and the w41? I'd love to find one in decent condition

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>>11369823
Oh my god my mom had a cavilier z24 and we both loved it. It wasn't until 2005 she had to get rid of it because it got major water and hail damage from hurricane Katrina. It was gonna be my first car but whatevs

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>inb4 not a shitbox

>>11369878
Did >>11369832 have a Mitsubishi engine?

I actually like the looks of that Oldsmobile.

>>11377111
There's one for sale near me for $600. It's a little rusty.

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/4725103489.html

>>11380187
I don't like foxes really but I would love an 80s Capri

>>11380272

The dodge had a dodge engine, not a Mitsu engine.

>>11380314
>I don't like foxes really

[spoiler]you can go to hell[/spoiler]

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How could /o/ possibly hate this thread? Cheap, sporty shitboxes are the best

>>11380892
>how could /o/ possible hate something

because /o/

>>11380892

Nobody hates this thread. In fact, I'm hearing a repeating claim that this might be my best thread yet.

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>>11380922
But you always have cheap sporty shitbox threads..?

Maybe your status as a former shitpost we from a couple years ago has finally died down. That and Coconut-San hasn't posted in a while, he loves to antagonize you

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>no glhs

u wot m8

>>11380938
Saw one of these at the Shelby museum here, in pristine condition

>>11380936

I've done this maybe one or twice before. I usually do the muscle car threads.

>Maybe your status as a former shitpost we from a couple years ago has finally died down.

That's a thoroughly optimistic position.

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GTP this thread a shit where da burger

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h-hey guys

can I play

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>>11381070
I see the shitbox, where's the sporty?

>>11378955
are these things any good? and dont they have the same engine as a cobalt ss?

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>>11381004

Do some'm wit dis burger right here

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do you cunts even know what this is

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>>11381132
You bag of dicks I was gonna post one of those.

>>11381122
I assume it's at least somewhat fun to toss around on account of it being light and having a short wheelbase

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>>11381142
True, but I thought this thread was for shitboxes that were advertised as "sporty".

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Pic related is my Geo Shitstorm GSi Autocross project.

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Say what you want, +250hp out the factory and people have gotten over 400bhp out of these with stock internals

>>11369838

>80's Chevrolet
>called EUROSPORT
>Chevrolet
>EURO

wut

>>11381818
Yeah, back in the 80's everyone knew the sporty cars came from YuRop

>>11380272
Yes and not. The Spirit RT? No. The engine was a Chrysler k 2.2L inline 4 with a Lotus designed DOHC 16 valve head and a turbo.
If you got a normal Dodge Spirit, they came with either a 2.5L non turbo SOHC 8 valve Chrysler K engine, or an optional Mitsubishi 3.0L 6G72 SOHC V6.

>>11381136
1990's Toyota Corolla Levin with the 20 valve 4AGE 1.6L.

What is a good high revving sporty shit box i can get in manual and thrash around backroads in the us
Thinking of 1stgen Taurus sho

>>11382030
Taurus SHO transmissions, stick and auto, are notoriously weak and can't handle much abuse, or even redline shifts.

If you're in America, quit being a hipster, swallow your biased pride, and buy a Civic hatch/Integra. They handle awesome, they're easy to work on, parts are cheap, and there's a TON of aftermarket

>>11379490
damn nigga clean that engine bay

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>>11381212
I wish rear hatches like that caught on more.

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>>11382404
yeah

>>11370655
>does this count

absolutely

>>11382030
Just about any of the cars with the high output Oldsmobile Quad 4 engine fit the bill. All came with strong 5 speed manual getrag transmissions, 180 HP minimum and a 7,000 rpm redline.

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Too sporty to be shitbox?

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>>11382047
>If you're in America, quit being a hipster, swallow your biased pride, and buy a Civic hatch/Integra.

There's nothing wrong with wanting an American car, and there's nothing wrong with wanting a Taurus SHO.

>>11383181
>TFW you used to have an old Car and Driver where they tested an early Escort GT.

I always felt one of those would make a nice, outside the norm, daily driver.

>>11383228
I found a motorweek video including it. Does that count?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLVqRJyEYk

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Eh?? EH??????

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>tfw no beretta z26

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>>11383625
dat ass

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>>11383630
I passed up on a nice z24, having some regrets

>>11383568
I think it's pretty cool. There's one in the shop right now, hopefully we can repair it or repair another one with it.

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>>11385852
hnggg-worthy

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Saw one of these today.

Isuzu Impulse RS

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>that decal

If only they where decent cars with plenty of parts avaliable

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>>11386092
This thread speaks to me. I want one of all the above.

>>11386132
ok

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>>11386132
get at it man, you're only talking about 200 grand or so

you'd need to shell out another on a big ass garage though but wgaf

This thread has been truly incredible. It's great seeing some of the cars that are largely overshadowed or forgotten get the affection and attention that they deserve.

>>11370275
http://lakeland.craigslist.org/cto/4730239631.html

here you go, I don't want another project

>>11386228
Yea, space to store all the cars where I live is mad money. Also not sure how I'd be able to register all the cars so I could actually drive them. I don't want a collection I never drive.

>>11378931
Holy hell that thing looks amazing.

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Essentially a civic si with leather. Still fun to beat around

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My car never felt more at home than this thread

>>11386390
got any pics of the interior?

>>11380137
>95 olds achieva s
about 40 hp. and shorter gears etc.. W41 ripped pretty good for a N/A motor.