Trump fires FBI Dirctor James Comey

Trump is America's Erdogan

>>138121
Naah, he's more like a lazy version of Richard Nixon.

>>138117
Why do you guys think Trump fired him?
Did he finally come to his senses and realize Comey is a Hillary weasel shill and underground saracen?

>>138121
B A S E D
A
S
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D

In any case, Comey was a corrupt piece of shit that before being director of the fbi he was a board member of a bank that was caught laundering money. He was being controlled by Hillary Clinton. This is all apart of her master plan to start WWIII and end humanity.

fired for...? getting too close to revealing the truth, like Yates? because it sure as hell is not for the whole Clinton e-mail thing, which he certainly should have been at least disciplined for at the time.

David Duke should be next FBI director. Let's put the "yeehaw" back into the FBI.

>>138117
>recommendations of both Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Attorney General Jeff Sessions
>Sessions

>>138130
jesus fucking christ I wouldn't even be surprised.

>>138130
>Sessions
>KKK

That’s not funny.

TRUMP: They had a quote from me that NATO's obsolete. But they didn't say why it was obsolete. I was on Wolf Blitzer, very fair interview, the first time I was ever asked about NATO, because I wasn't in government. People don't go around asking about NATO if I'm building a building in Manhattan, right? So they asked me, Wolf ... asked me about NATO, and I said two things. NATO's obsolete — not knowing much about NATO, now I know a lot about NATO — NATO is obsolete, and I said, "And the reason it's obsolete is because of the fact they don't focus on terrorism." You know, back when they did NATO there was no such thing as terrorism.

AP: What specifically has NATO changed?

TRUMP: (Cites Wall Street Journal article) ... I did an interview with Wolf Blitzer, and I said NATO was obsolete — I said two things — obsolete, and the country's aren't paying. I was right about both. I took such heat for about three days on both, because nobody ever criticized NATO. I took heat like you wouldn't believe. And then some expert on NATO said, "You know, Trump is right." But I said it was obsolete because they weren't focused on terror. ...

It's not fair that we're paying close to 4 percent and other countries that are more directly affected are paying 1 percent when they're supposed to be paying 2 percent. And I'm very strong on it and I'm going to be very strong on it when I go there in a month."

>>138134
I never got this. We made the relationships to be imbalanced because it indebts them to us.

>>138135
this really shows that the 45th president is deeply ignorant about a variety of things.

Related
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/us/politics/comey-clinton-emails-testimony.html
The F.B.I. sent a letter to Congress on Tuesday clarifying testimony last week by its director, James B. Comey, about how classified information ended up on the laptop of the disgraced former congressman Anthony Weiner.

Mr. Comey told the Senate Judiciary Committee that during the F.B.I.’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while secretary of state, officers uncovered evidence that Mrs. Clinton’s aide, Huma Abedin, had “forwarded hundreds and thousands of emails, some of which contain classified information” to Mr. Weiner, her husband.

But while some of the emails were forwarded, the F.B.I. told Congress that it was likely that the vast majority were instead backed up to Mr. Weiner’s laptop.

“Our investigation determined that Ms. Abedin commonly forwarded emails to others who would print documents for her,” Gregory A. Brower, the assistant director in the F.B.I.’s Office of Congressional Affairs, wrote in the letter to the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Senator Charles E. Grassley of Iowa.

Also related
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/comey-misstated-key-clinton-email-evidence-at-hearing-say-people-close-to-investigation/2017/05/09/074c1c7e-34bd-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html

“The FBI’s reputation and credibility have suffered substantial damage, and it has affected the entire Department of Justice,’’ Rosenstein wrote. “I cannot defend the director’s handling of the conclusion of the investigation of Secretary Clinton’s emails, and I do not understand his refusal to accept the nearly universal judgment that he was mistaken. Almost everyone agrees that the director made serious mistakes; it is one of the few issues that unites people of diverse perspectives.’’

In a letter to Trump, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said that he agreed.

>>138138
looks like I was wrong about it not being the e-mails like I said in >>138129. it's not for the correct reason still. he shouldn't have taken anything to the court of public opinion, proximity of an election notwithstanding.

>>138132
After the whole Bannon blunder, I don't think Trump would turn to Duke for that.

Bye comey. We never liked you anyway, giant freak.

I love donald trump (the president of America)

>>138140
Anyone who knows how the Apple iCloud works knows what he means by "formwarding" Huma and Anthony Weiner were in the same cloud, so he saw all of her emails. It's that simple really.

But even the most liberal press and Republican Senate Committees alike pretend like it's some complicated purposeful CC forwarding job involved for various political reasons.

>>138128

Nigga you didn't just drink the kool-aid, you drowned in it.

So is it Special Prosecutor time?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-fires-fbi-director-james-comey/

https://www.propublica.org/article/comeys-testimony-on-huma-abedin-forwarding-emails-was-inaccurate

>Mr Comey had been leading an inquiry into alleged links between the Trump election campaign and Russia.
>Mr Comey had been leading an inquiry into alleged links between the Trump election campaign and Russia.
>Mr Comey had been leading an inquiry into alleged links between the Trump election campaign and Russia.
OH SHI-

>Comey told the Senate Judiciary Committee last Wednesday it made him "mildly nauseous" to think his announcement of the reopening of an investigation into Clinton's emails affected the 2016 presidential election, but he had no regrets and would make the same decision again.

one of those statements is untrue. "made him sick" or "i have no regrets". they can't both be true.

>>138128
his replacement McCabe has clinton connections. there's something else going on.

>>138121
>Someone that's using the powers given to him by legislation is a dictator

Really makes you think

>>138128
>Being this fucking delusional

>>138154
>one of those statements is untrue. "made him sick" or "i have no regrets". they can't both be true.
They aren't mutually exclusive. A cop who shoots a criminal may feel nauseous about it, but wouldn't hesitate to do it again.

The fact that the president, right this very second, is watching cable news with a proud shit-eating grin on his face in total bliss as everybody's talking about him again, makes me sick.

>>138161
makes me happy

well that's not good.

>>138164
We know, /pol/.

Well, impeachment seems more and more likely with each thing Trump does.

He was most helpful to Trump. I wonder if the Dems will try to flip him now.

This literally happened because Sessions found himself in the same bathroom as Trump last night and told him Comey makes drumpf jokes

there's no fucking 9 dimension parcheesi going on, nothing to interpret

>>138167
/news/man actually I don't go to /pol/ it's a silly place.

1. Praise Comey for his handling of the Clinton case.
2. Repeatedly quote Comey on his handling of the Clinton case.
3. Express your full confidence in Comey.
4. Get investigated by Comey for treason.
5. Fire Comey citing his disgraceful handling of the Clinton case.

Seems about right for the clown show that is the Trump White House t b h

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/us/politics/comey-trump-fbi-live.html

■ Mr. Comey was delivering a speech in Los Angeles when he learned he had been fired.

■ His dismissal drew a quick rebuke from Democrats, with several calling for an independent prosecutor to take over the investigation into Russian meddling in the election.

>>138173
You just can't understand Trump's masterful strategy. He's playing fourth dimensional chess while you're still stuck with Grandma's tick-tack-toe.

>>138175
Trump doesn't even know how to spell 4D.

>>138128
I could see a few scenarios

1.Comey got too close to something really bad.

2. The grand juries that have been heavily rumored to be occurring decided not to indict, and this is Trump putting a bookend on the situation.

3. Trump and company have been looking to fire him for awhile, and they finally found enough of an excuse with his flub on Hillary's emails during the last hearing.

Regardless, the russia investigation looks to be dying. Republicans aren't going to install a special prosecutor, and Trump will install a yes man as the director.

Some Republicans are turning on him

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/05/09/james-comey-fired-charles-krauthammer-trump-clinton-comments-july
>Krauthammer: 'Implausible' That Comey Was Fired Over Clinton Comments Last Year

>>138178
> Krauthammer
RINO neocon

This combined with the troop deployments yesterday really is going to send his approval rating further into the toilet. Will he break W Bush's record low of 22%?

>>138178
Krauthammer criticizes trump pretty frequently.

>>138180

does Bush really have the record?

Surely Nixon would have had lower just before he resigned?

>>138179
He had come on board the Trump train in recent weeks though. He even started wearing fake tan skin bronzer when he was on the Special Report All Star panel like a good TV trumpkin. I guess that's all out the window now.

>>138182
http://historyinpieces.com/research/nixon-approval-ratings
Nixon never got below 24-25% according to this.

>>138184
Goddamn. Thats bizarre.

>>138185
Despite everything else about him, Nixon was competent. People can forgive evil in their leaders, but not incompetence.

>>138186
What if someone had the complete moral bankruptcy of Nixon, but was unfettered by being even remotely informed about any topic?

>>138187
So obama?

>>138186
He had his moments of weakness, especially when he drank alcohol, which was often. Trump is a teetotaler.

>>138188
>hurf durf obummer dumber trump king
obama has a law degree and was a Constitutional professor. he knows things. king trump still thinks he's hosting a reality show.

>>138117
Comey looks like that Weiner dog frown meme lol

>>138191
He got there via affirmative action.

>>138167
>We
Who do you think you're speaking for you rat?

>>138197
Himself and me at the very least.

>>138194
Even if that was true, which you can't prove, it would not mean he isn't a constitutional scholar and former editor of the Harvard school newspaper.

>>138150
Yes it's a Russian conspiracy! That's why Trump fired Comey!

>>138198
same

>>138199
As opposed to someone who was born into wealth and displays his laughable intellectual level everytime he opens his mouth.

>>138200
Where is proofs, friend?

>>138203
Wharton is a fine school for business professionals.

>>138204
They were currently being brought up but oh wait someone just fired the chief investigator.

>>138205
Sure is a good sign of competence to run a fucking casino into the ground.

>>138205
lol
https://www.wharton.upenn.edu/wp-content/uploads/125anniversaryissue/trump.html

>>138207
His 500 plus businesses are doing fine to have a failure rate that low is pretty incredible tbh

>>138209
How many of these are led by him directly and not by more competent employees?

>>138191
Obama lost all progress made in the middle east. He actually fucked it up worse.

All he "accomplished" was forcing Americans into a shitty healthcare system we never wanted that is FAILING already.

Wasn't he supposed to close guantanamo or go after wall street or something? Oh racism stopped him right...

>>138197
>>138201
Do you think you can turn 4chan against America if you shitpost often enough?

Holy fuck they're showing "The Comey Motorcade" on MSNBC right now. He's driving down some freeway in LA going about 20mph flanked by a bunch of minivans. I'm sure Los Angelinos love that.

>>138212
>Do you think you can turn 4chan
Who do you think 4chan is?
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMZaS94LF5U

>Comey reopens the investigation into Clinton
>"WTF COMEY COST US THE ELECTION"
>Trump fires Comey
>"WTF I LOVE COMEY NOW!"

>>138218
You realize that Trump fired him for mishandling the Hillary files, right?
Also, it isn't just democrats piling on this one.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-gop-chairman-of-senate-intelligence-1494375798-htmlstory.html

>>138180
in Bush's defense he at least kept his composure, he was mocked far worse than trump and it never seem to get to him.

>>138219
>You realize that Trump fired him for mishandling the Hillary files, right?
thats what he says on paper yes.

>>138211
I'm not a fan of Obama, but he DID go after wall street. He didn't do a very good job, what with the overly complicated regulations and all, but the Dodd Frank is going after wall street.

N616RK

>>138224
Lol he bailed out Wall Street fam

>>138224
Chris Dodd is now the chairman of the MPAA and Barney Frank is a giant faggot whom people blame for the housing crisis. Dodd-Frank was dead and gutted after the Consumer Protection Bureau once headed by Elizabeth Warren was defunded by Congress after she became a Senator and Trump's people are drafting legislation to get rid of the rest of the parts of the law still on the books right now.

https://www.thestreet.com/story/14125324/1/trump-team-to-review-dodd-frank-in-stages.html

>>138215
This is the kind of mindless meme regurgitation I would expect from a reddit refugee

You have to go back

>>138224
>I'm not a fan of Obama [immediately parrots obama talking points]

>>138228
>the t_d refuge is using the "have to go back" meme while criticizing memes
2meta4me, m8

>>138231
Memes are unavoidable. I criticized your mindless meme regurgitation, typical of the meme kidz growing up online these days.

See how your points is nothing but pure meme. There's nothing "meta" about this you stupid child. You couldn't even cone up with an insult beyond that "no u" You lack originality and its disgusting.

>>138236
Yeah I know you criticized my mindless meme regurgitation, while mindlessly regurgitating a meme. That's what invalidates the rest of whatever you say in this thread. Run along now, you have liberals to try and troll on some other board.

>>138157
A dictator uses the powers given by legislation you dipshit

>>138239
>no u
>NO U

>>138244
commie sperglord

>>138245
You know you got BTFO, right? Just spoonfeeding you because I think you might be too dense to get it.

>>138205
Getting into and graduating any school as the son of a billionaire isn't impressive dummy. People get university degrees just so that they can play on the school team, you think millions in donations to a school won't buy a degree?

>>138248
>no u
>NO U
>BTFO

>>138228
Go back to /pol/ you braindead schizo

>>138250
If you leave the board now you might be able to salvage that increasingly small amount of dignity you've retained.

>>138246
>>138248

I love how /pol/tards and trump dipshits make themselves look like idiots in a conversation and then claim they are winning

Completely fucking braindead there's no point in engaging these idiots.

>>138254
And posts like yours derail the thread even more than having a stupid NO U GOT BTFO argument does.

Back on topic:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-shocking-firing-of-james-b-comey-puts-new-pressure-on-trump-and-his-team/2017/05/09/b1d3d19a-3509-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html

>It was Rosenstein, a career prosecutor, who laid out the bill of particulars against Comey in a memorandum to Sessions. He was unsparing in his criticism of Comey’s handling of that matter, noting, “My perspective on these issues is shared by former attorneys general and deputy attorneys general from different eras and both political parties.”

>He said the FBI director had overstepped his authority and compounded the mistake by holding a news conference last July 5 in which he announced that he would not seek prosecution but during which he was sharply critical of Clinton. He was equally critical of Comey’s decision to announce in a letter to Congress last Oct. 28 that he was reopening the investigation, which Clinton’s advisers believe was a contributing factor to her loss to Trump in November.

>Rosenstein also said Comey was wrong to defend his actions, as recently as last week during testimony before a congressional committee. He ended by asserting, “The FBI is unlikely to regain public and congressional trust until it has a director who understands the gravity of the mistakes and pledges never to repeat them.”

>FBI director opens an investigation into possible Russian tampering with US presidential elections
>President fires him shortly after they're publicly announced
does he not realize how shady this makes him look?

>>138253


>no u
>NO U
>BTFO
>racist!

>>138254
The guy declaring BTFO is not /pol/ you fucking commie retard

Read a conversating before butting in.

>>138261
>commie
Oh hey Cletus, how's shit going tonight?

>>138262
I call you a communist (responsible for billions of starvations)

You call me a white person

It says a lot about your racism that you think a white person's name is a compatable insult. Fuggin marxists...

>>138263
Whatever you say, Cletus. Give those commies hell. Seeya around.

>>138157
he becomes a dictator when the powers given to him by legislators enable him to compromise our ability to hold free and fair elections or obstruct due process of law purely at his own discretion.

Comey said multiple times there is no evidence of Trump colluding with Russians. I don't get why the left is continuing with these silly conspiracy theories.

>>138263
Cletus isn't just a white person's name

The fact that your mind immediately branded it with a color says way more than his usage of it.

>>138161
Go whine on twitter you raging homo.

>>138267
Trump != Trump associates.

>>138267
There is an ongoing FBI criminal investigation into Trump and his people and their collusion with Russia. He never said there was nothing to be found, he said the FBI hadn't found any evidence yet but was still investigating.

>>138269
Why so angry?

>>138268
He's obviously implying I'm a redneck, you commie apologist.

>>138273
A hypocrite as well?

>>138267
>why the left is continuing with these silly conspiracy theories.
It's because they aren't conspiracy theories, they're actual conspiracies. The multiple independent investigations which all found at least circumstantial evidence of collusion are not silly. And it isn't the political left doing it, it's intelligence officials and law enforcement organizations all over the world making the charges.

>>138274
You must not live in the south, because there are some black folks who put white rednecks to shame.

>>138279
thats never been a good enough reason for other conspiracies to be taken seriously.

>>138280
>not all x are like that


WOW SO DEEP

>YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE. NOT EVERYONE NAMED ASHLEY IS A GIRL. REALLY BROADENED YOUR HORIZONS DIDNT I?

He got fired because he was an utter retard:https://sputniknews.com/us/201705031053255410-comey-russia-hearing-senate/

Was also sitting on intel. and lying for certain people: https://sputniknews.com/us/201705091053441974-fbi-comey-accused-lying-clinton-emails/

Good riddance.

ITT Cletus gets introduced to and argues with some new people. Welcome to /news/.

Back on topic:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/republican-response-comey-fired/
>Top Republicans, including the senator directing the Senate's Russia investigation, said Tuesday they were "troubled" by President Donald >Trump's firing of FBI Director James Comey, while other GOP lawmakers tried to stay out of the growing political storm.
>"I am troubled by the timing and reasoning of Director Comey's termination," Senate Intelligence Chairman Richard Burr, a North Carolina Republican, said in a statement.
>While Democrats slammed Trump's decision on Comey as "Nixonian," some members of the President's own party expressed concerns and divided traditional GOP alliances.
...

>>138143
>I love donald trump
Y dough

>>138287
Oh look, it's Vlad! The gang is all here now!

>>138287
Were you on break or something Ivan? How could you wait this long to drunkenly stumble in?

>>138291
Sorry Rosenburg and Isaacson, I forgot I was supposed to play the sneaky red menace hacker again.

Comey was a corrupt mongoloid and neoliberal. Nothing of value was lost. Trump was also not under investigation when he fired him. Misinformation is now leading to internet chaos parroted by retards, such as yourselves, twatterers and reddit.

>>138290
He's a patriot. Risking his life to better America.

Y have you not cried tear of joy for this opportunity?

>>138296
No but unironically

Y dough

So is this the fuck-up that finally takes Trump down, or is he really untouchable. Cause this looks like a huge fuck-up.

>>138301
If your party is in control of congress you're untouchable.

heres some food for thought
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfo2oDmlh2M
now quit bitching this has been a long time coming

>>138295
It's ironic that the deputy attorney general Trump picked was named Rosenstein, eh?

>>138305
>circumsized knob slobber loves circumsized knobs

No?

>>138301
>So is this the fuck-up that finally takes Trump down, or is he really untouchable
Neither. It was a perfectly legal maneuver squarely within the powers of the Presidency. The FBI is run by the executive branch.

>>138263
And you support Capitalism, responsible for millions of starvation deaths. Have you ever taken a look at how poverty stricken the US is? Coservicucks are always so quick to point in the mirror when they fail to realize their looking at themselves.

>>138336
>And you support Capitalism, responsible for millions of starvation deaths
Capitalism doesn't work that way fam.

>Have you ever taken a look at how poverty stricken the US is?
Compared to and by what measurement?

>>138117

What if Hillary had fired Comey for investigating her emails?

>>138168

>IMPEACH DUBYA
>IMPEACH OBUMMER
>IMPEACH DRUMPF

Any faggot who clamors for impeachment of a president they don't like should be euthanized

>>138301
Any number of fuckups should have taken him down. I'm quite shocked anyone was willing to vote for him after the Access Hollywood video.

For whatever reason this is probably going to blow over just like everything else seems to.

>>138340
Republicans would initiate impeachment proceedings.

>>138348
sign of an ignorant backwards electorate

>>138248
Did you know you just responded to an argument by playing right into >>138250 's point? And now you're patting yourself on the back for winning internet points over a discussion about what defines a cringy use of memes on 4chan.

>>138430
Did you know that nobody wins a /pol/ argument? And now you're the one trying to play referee.

>>138257
Rosenstein makes a decent argument, but notably did not call for Comey's removal. Trump might not understand the precedent for removing an FBI director, but it's a big deal http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-last-fbi-director-to-get-fired-before-1494368709-htmlstory.html

I doubt Rosenstein's testimony was enough to make Trump have an ideological 180 about Comey within a few hours though

>>138301
I imagine he'll lose a few more approval points, but he already has fucked up and that hasn't stopped Cletus from shitposting. I feel like the fake news defense will insulate his base until time proves him ineffective or a smoking gun is found. Honestly I think further action in Afghanistan will hurt him more than this, because his supporters have habitually been dismissing Russian allegations for nearly a year, but his isolationist platform is just now starting to crumble.

>>138344
But why? Historically presidential systems have fallen apart because the legislative branch gridlocks and the president starts overstepping their bounds just to get something done. That's how a lot of Latin American govenrments have collapsed, and it's happening right now in Turkey. I'm sure you can all see that trend with W, Obama, and Trump, and I for one am somewhat reassured that the legislative branch always has a metaphorical gun at the back of the president's head.

>>138432
Yup, but I still get to feel self righteous about not being as dumb as the other anons.

>>138354
What would it take for Republicans to do the same to Trump?

>>138439
>What would it take for Republicans to do the same to Trump?
Actual tangible and defined criminality, and evidence of said defined criminality beyond "anonymous sources say, it has been reported by an anonymous source, unnamed authorities believe".

>>138442
Then why aren't Republicans agreeing to an independent investigation right now?

>>138344
>using the last three presidents
>Not going back one more to include the guy that they actually tried to impeach
Anyway, Trump might actually legitimately get impeached. A lot of GOP would rather have Pence, and a lot of Republicans are getting fed up with his incompetence and corruption.

>>138475
Even if that doesn't, the Erik Prince meeting in The Maldives surely does, which has yet to be investigated fully.

>>138135
Hey, where'd you here this from? I like this idea, and if I brought it up to someone I'd like to quote a source.

>>138442 #
Does having your national security advisor call the Russians about sanctions relief, right after the CIA and FBI conclude they've intervened on behalf of your campaign, and then he lied about it under oath, after you'd been warned by the previous president that he was compromised, and after you lied about not having been warned as the sitting president, count as grounds for an investigation to safeguard US interests?
What about the myriad other scandals and lies?

>>138479
Fake news. Where are the proofs?

>>138476
And the new health care bill will not pass and the GOP Congress probably will not survive the midterms . ..so, yeah, Pence for President in 2020.

>>138482
Do conservatives have any rebuttal with information density greater than 0? Can they do anything more than merely argue at the level of conspiracy?

This whole thread is like watching two old married people argue about who wore it better on dancing with the stars. Get your shit together.

>>138492
You are on /news/ you are not dealing with real people either viral marketers astroturfers or trolls.

>>138297
>>138290

The left only asks questions like this as a form of an insult.

I don't think I've been asked a genuine question about my beliefs once this since Trump ran for president.

Why don't you want to understand other people? You afraid you'll become a racist?

>>138338
*crickets*

LOL at people thinking Americans are starving.

You know what your nearby gas station does everyday? They throw fresh food in the garbage. Donuts and hamburgers.

Capitalism is beautiful. There's plenty of shit for everybody, if your government will only gtfo of the way.

>>138492
I'm fine with anything Trump may or may not do just so long as it leads to getting rid of the Demcucks. I dream of a day when there are no longer any D's in our government and the Cruz Missile sits in the Oval Office.

>>138474
>Then why aren't Republicans agreeing to pretend that Russia hacked the election?

IT WAS HER TURN

>>138497
>Capitalism is beautiful. There's plenty of shit for everybody, if your government will only gtfo of the way.

That's the main problem with current Capitalism in the US. People aren't punished enough for being stupid or lazy. If we actually had the threat of starvation to motivate people, along with laws that don't decentivize or drive down business profits, unemployment would be a thing of the past.

>>138476
>Trump might actually legitimately get impeached.
Impeached for what? Russian conspiracy hypotheses? Democrats have lost their minds.


>A lot of GOP would rather have Pence, and a lot of Republicans are getting fed up with his incompetence and corruption.
Bullshit, bullshit, AND MORE bullshit? Do go on and elaborate on your psychosis.

>>138499
The Clinton hack was actually a false flag planned by Hillary and lead by Mook to incriminate Trump, his team, and Russia so they could advance their schedule to annihilate the human race.

>>138492
>Can they do anything more than merely argue at the level of conspiracy?

>dat total disregard for self reflection

>>138500
There's nothing wrong with a lazy bum surviving off the excess of others. Its a life choice for some people.

Nobody needs to be "punished" what the fuck are you doing. I don't give a fuck about profits you jewelry lover.

Freedom and safety is all a country needs.

>>138503
>people disregard the satanic pizza pedocanibal ring controlled by Clinton and funded by Soros
>believe totally that there's a global Russia backed conservative conspiracy to hack elections and mind control the West

>>138228
It's almost like politics aren't black and white and you can like some things politicians do but not others. But that would require the fanatics to actually think about what they believe and not just blindly worship "their guy" like a god

>>138505
I'm not sure if anyone besides the useful idiots actually believe this Russia nonsense.

But I tend to over estimate the left's intellect.

>>138508
Yes buddy I'm sure you're real nuanced and you hate Trump for special reasons, not loke those political hacks. Whoops, hey it looks like you've dropped something.

*picks up binky off the floor*
*puts binky back in your mouth*

>>138505
>Russia has been conducting well known covert ops to spy on and influence America for 60+ years
>somehow believing they are still doing it based on known evidence is more of a strain to credulity than believing in a conspiracy because cheese pizza and child pornography can both be abbreviated CP

>covers for Clinton during Benghazi
>covers for Clinton during email scandal
>covers for Obama during wiretapegate
>covers for anti-Trump leakers while pursuing Russia alternative news

Comey is a hack. Anyone who helps liberals anywhere is not a true American. Trump will make America great again when he finally outlaws liberalism and declares liberals as traitors!

>>138496
You're the one avoiding having to explain yourself.

>>138496
Who do I ask, because a lot of alt-righters I see online just come off as edgy Twitter or Facebook trolls.

>>138511
Trump please, yell at the TV if you need to, but please stop shitposting.

>>138517
I answered the question right after it was asked.

It's the same answer I gave the entire campaign, but the left refuses to accept it.

If your opponent isn't an evil racist, you've got nothing.

>>138520
You don't really ask. You attack and lie. It's quite disgusting.

>>138521
I take this as a compliment dummy. You just don't get that many people LIKE Trump.

>>138522
They won't be so smug once the day of the rope comes and we have em and their families quartered and disemboweled, before hanging them from trees and lights. Let's see them lie once they're dead.

>>138514
>Trump will make America great again when he finally outlaws liberalism and declares liberals as traitors!
He absolutely has to address the prevalence of cultural marxists and communists in the democrat party and our education system.

This scourge never went away. We've just become complacent.

If Trump doesn't do something about this I'm gonna flip!

>>138522
Yeah, a lot of people love Trump enough where if they push through with this Russia nonsense, they'll be a civil war.

>>138523
You sound like a filthy communist revolutionary

Go die in a fire traitor

>>138525
>>138523

Are you false flagging to make Trump supporters seem bad?

Seems like it.

That's how leftists debate. They accuse republicans of being evil.

When that doesn't work, they pretend to be an evil republican and discredit them. Look at any hate crime on a college campus. 100% of them are false flags.

>>138503
I'm not against suggesting conspiracy y, I'm against using that as the ultimate logic to defeat any evidence.
>it's a conspiracy
But I've got evidence
>the evidence is a conspiracy
The source is the FBI and CIA
>intelligence is a conspiracy

At some point, you're going to have to fork over some evidence.

>>138531
The aegis of proofs is upon the accuser, my friend. Trump has proofs of Obama wiretapping, for instances, while you still have nothing but politicized, anonymous sources.

>>138528
Muh rope day is a /pol/ meme from the Turner Diaries. I'm pretty sure William Luther Pierce isn't a commie.

>>138534
He doesn't though, all he's done is prove that the FBI has been suspicious of his group from the start.

>>138534

okay this has to be a falseflagging liberal

1. Trump doesnt have proof Obama ordered a wiretap on him. He said he did and then never presented it when the investigatory commision asked for it.

2. Both the FBI and the CIA have presented evidence to Congress on Russian involvement on the election, and although there is no proof Trump was involved, there is some evidence he might have been. For example, his campaign manager (Manafort) accepted significant amounts of money from the Russian government for undisclosed services, Flynn lied under oath about having never met any Russian officials during the campaign, etc etc. The investigation is still ongoing. (unlike the Obama wiretap one which concluded that no, Obama had not ordered a wiretap on Trump).

>>138538
he didn't say anything because the Clinton controlled deep state threatened him.

>>138539
>The aegis of proofs is upon the accuser, my friend.

Daily reminder that nobody has accused anyone or any country of hacking any voting machines anywhere, and to suggest otherwise is to distract from the real ongoing investigation into Russian interference and the Trump team's collusion with them on purpose.

>>138531
You've got no evidence for this russia conspiracy hypothesis. Its nuts and I'm becommimg embarrassed for you.

>>138536
That post really gives the appearance of an argument.

Except I didn't say shit about Pierce. I said YOU are a false flagging peice of leftist trash.

>>138538
>okay this has to be a falseflagging liberal
Isn't it interesting that you say this shit right after I accused that other faggot (probably you) of false flagging?

You lack originality on a fundamemtal level.

All you can do is desperately muddy the waters.

>>138554
They have no values, so they can only laugh at us. But they are afraid, because they know that their time is coming to an end, and that they'll be a reckoning of blood for the past 8 years.

>>138553
Not the guy you are responding to, but here's some evidence for you to deny the existence of:

From the right:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446339/donald-trump-russia-2016-election-controversy-explained
From the left:
http://www.newsweek.com/did-trump-campaign-collude-russia-follow-money-595661
In the middle:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/dec/01/russia-and-its-influence-presidential-election/

http://www.snopes.com/2016/12/10/cia-russia-interfered-with-u-s-elections/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

>>138556
Who is "They" and who is "us"?

>>138557
>inb4 Wow so you really don't have any evidence at all, huh?
I'm just fucking waiting for it.

>>138558
He's just an idiot pretending to be a Nazi to make Trump supporters look bad.

>>138557
You're conflating a bunch of shit to make it seem like Trump is part of a Russian conspiracy and it's not fooling anyone.

You people are just such shit. If anything Trump would be part of an ISRAELI conspiracy... This incompetence astounds me.

How you people have managed to ruin up a planet to this extent is a testament to the gullibility of decent people.

>>138557
>posting lugenpresse
>in 2017

>>138565
You posted some irrelevant shit and are pretending it's related to Trump. Russia hacks our shit all the time, and we hack them back. Obama himself interfered with several foreign elections, it's not even a big deal.

She lost. Get over it.

I wouldn't be surprised if democrats started pretending that taxes were Trump's idea.
>TAXATION IS RACIST!
>IMPEACH DRUMPF!

>>138566
>You're conflating
lol sure, *I'm* the one conflating useless shit with what actually happened... inb4 Vlad asks for proof about hacked voting machines again for no reason.

>>138567
>lugenpresse
Do you even know what board you're on?

>>138568
It's going to be increasingly hard for you to run with this false narrative as Trump's approval rating falls below 30%.

>>138566
Trump is part of the Russian conspriacy, slowpoke. While you were busy giving your fellow /pol/lacks virtual reach-arounds, The GCHQ in the UK and and the DGSI in France and the CIA in the US corroborated some of the non-piss parts of The Steele Dossier.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-ties-michael-flynn-dossier-2017-2
> The dossier alleges serious misconduct and conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia's government. The White House has dismissed the dossier as fiction, and some of the facts and assertions it includes have indeed been proven wrong.

>Other allegations in the dossier, however, are still being investigated. According to a recent CNN report, moreover, US intelligence officials have now corroborated some of the dossier's material. And this corroboration has reportedly led US intelligence officials to regard other information in the dossier as more credible.

>>138570
Yeah I heard a lot about those approval ratings but Trump became president nonetheless.

You've got nothing. Republicans grow closer, while democrats are fractured like never before.

Y'all keep pushing the Muslim and transgender stuff please LOL

>>138571
Oh noooo Michael flynn... whatever! Ok! Hillary clinton got hacked!!

Let me know if you ever get a single iota of evidence implicating TRUMP.

>>138582
We will if Trump stops shutting down all attempts to gather evidence. Makes it quite obvious there's something to hide.

When are we going to see those tax returns?

>>138582
>>138581
Already denying it. Here you go
>>138557

>>138511
>*...*
Please never post again

>>138585
>tax returns?
I actually laughed out loud

>>138588
I didn't deny anything, because you didn't post any relevant information.

I don't get why you people are so dedicated to giving the appearance of an argument

You realize there's like 15 people on this board right?

>>138599
There are almost 250 sources on the wikipedia page alone. Can you refute even one of them?

>>138599
>51 people in the thread
>15 people on the board
So you can't do math in addition to being in denial.

>>138606
>It's a fact that Russia has done a hack
>DRUMPF IS A RUSSIAN AGENT NOW

What a compelling argument. How ever did you geniuses lose the election?

>>138610
>can't refute even one of the almost 250 sources so you turn to adhoms and deflecting back to >muh hillary memes
That's what I thought.

>>138607
So you don't understand how exaggerating works?

That's another thing that lost HER the election. Trump speaks like a normal person, and dumbass liberals take it literally in order to mock otherwise normal statements.

Those less pretentious than you will communicate regardless of your desire to misunderstand and manipulate.

I wonder how long Trump's people can keep up the "Nothing to see here, Not one shred of proofs!! Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!" meme as a political strategy.

>>138615
who needs truth when you've got alternative facts?

>>138615
>>138619
Democrats have absolutely lost their minds.

I'm sorry that you couldn't handle losing the election, but I'd never change my vote.

Your feelings aren't evidence. It doesnt matter how much "it seems" like Trump is a Russian agent to you.

You need evidence. Not just random evidence. Evidence to support ypur claims.

>>138626
>250 sources = "Feelings"
>liberals have lost their minds!
Wow we're really getting out there now. Is Trump even capable of wrongdoing to you?

>>138557
Yes, but where is proofs on RT or Fox?

>>138626
I'm not even a democrat. evidence is being collected and analyzed, it has been happening since before the election even happened and it is ongoing, no matter how much you wish to believe the alternative fact that all of it is "fake news".

>>138635
>250 sources = "Feelings"
>Sources posted= 0
>Anonymous sources= 0
>Zero sources= feelings

>>138557
>National Review link
>No sources, no evidence, "reports from multiple agencies", speculation start to finish

>newsweek
>seventeen federal intelligence agencies have already confirmed it! ...here's a pdf that repeats this yet also shows no actual evidence
>Russians hacked electoral systems! ...well one system, in one state- Arizona. Maybe.
>What remains to be determined is whether, and how deeply, members of the Trump campaign were involved in the scheme.
>Whether
>These two "non-partisian" (clearly partisan) agencies issued challenges! ...that don't cite specific evidence merely demand a "yes or no to violation" answer from the FEC, who has still not stated yes or no

>politifact
>middle
No.

>Snopes
>Declarative title yet no supporting evidence or stance taken in article

>wikipedia list of "Links between the Trump campaign and Russian officials" is literally just dozens of references to NYT, CNN, WaPo, and other speculative news articles making the same references to unnamed officials, anonymous sources, confirmations that investigations are or have taken place, and yet to be presented evidence
The New York Times is mentioned 43 times.
The Washington Post is mentioned 33.
NBC is mentioned 22 times.

The words criminality, definitive, proven? Zero times.

Any other sources you'd like to add?

>>138646
>If I keep repeating "no actual evidence" then meme magic will make it real!
>pdfs arenb't real!
>politifcat isn't in center left because I said so!

You sound like a child having a temper-tantrum. How many pages of evidence do you need before you acknowledge that there is evidence?

>>138646
>sources:0
coughcough
>>138557

>>138644
>evidence is being collected and analyzed
Evidence never discussed and never shown.

>it has been happening since before the election even happened and it is ongoing
And the fact that none of it has been presented or elaborated on in any concrete form doesn't bother you at all?

>no matter how much you wish to believe the alternative fact that all of it is "fake news".
It's very fake news. Hence why the only people who believe it are also the only people who actually believed Hillary was winning, :^)

>>138648
>If I keep repeating "no actual evidence" then meme magic will make it real!
Try posting some. If you're wondering whyy news articles speculating on anonymous sources and unverified guess work isn't valid evidence in a criminal investigation, try a few night classes at your local law school.

>pdfs arenb't real!
Not what was said. And o evidence was in fact posted in the pdf .You should try actually reading it, given that it's merely a summary of a joint statement made by intelligence agencies. Can you spot the difference? Cause there will be a quiz.

>>138648
>You sound like a child having a temper-tantrum.
And you declare anything that isn't slavish lickspittling of the MSM "wrong think'". Now address my criticism you coward.

>How many pages of evidence do you need before you acknowledge that there is evidence?
Clearly outlined, concrete examples of criminality, and specific examples and goals of collusion that aren't from anonymous or unverified officials or rampant yellow journalism would be a start. But that clearly doesn't exist, or it wouldn't have taken 9+ months for any of that to be made public.

>>138648

I hope you will read this comment made by Sartre about Anti-Semites many years ago and realize how it applies in this context:

"The anti-Semite has chosen hate because hate is a faith; at the outset he has chosen to devaluate words and reasons. How entirely at ease he feels as a result. How futile and frivolous discussions about the rights of the Jew appear to him. He has pleased himself on other ground from the beginning. If out of courtesy he consents for a moment to defend his point of view, he lends himself but does not give himself. He tries simply to project his intuitive certainty onto the plane of discourse. I mentioned awhile back some remarks by anti-Semites, all of them absurd: "I hate Jews because they make servants insubordinate, because a Jewish furrier robbed me, etc." Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. It is not that they are afraid of being convinced. They fear only to appear ridiculous or to prejudice by their embarrassment their hope of winning over some third person to their side."

>>138656
If you're attempting to help him by likening me to an anti-Semite, you might want to first check to be sure that I am not, in fact, Semitic.

>>138658
Fuck off fascist, I wasn't talking to you.

>>138557
there are some actual things to be concerned about with the whole thing,
but theres also a ton of conspiracy junk that goes along with it.
lots of unreliable claims, making a big deal over small or unrelated issues, and the usual baseless theories.

people who hate trump will eat it all up, and people that dont hate him will disregard even the legitimate concerns.

>>138659
>Fuck off fascist, I wasn't talking to you.
Yeah, again, small problem with that...

>>138646
What's wrong with them

I'm starting to worry Trump Derangement Syndrome is a real illness and it's contagious.

You liberals are nuttier than a fruitcake. Trump is the head of a very vigorous Republican Party. The only thing destroyed here is your brains. When I heard about how McConnel wouldn't cave into the Progressive demands, I couldn't help but let out a cheer. McConnell and the other Republicans are doing the right thing. The dems want a Russian witch hunt for the next 4 years. McConnell won't fall for their bullshit, and neither should you.

>>138644
>I'm not even a democrat
Yes you are, basically.

Normal people don't do things like this.

>>138677
The best part is that it isn't even liberals saying what Trump did is ridiculous

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/05/09/james-comey-fired-charles-krauthammer-trump-clinton-comments-july

holy shit it's thick in here.

>>138679
Liberals think conservatives care about shit like this because there is no leftist version of a RINO. The democrat party is a flock marching in unison.

Besides, Krauthammer has personal issues with Trump, you ignoramous.

>>138691
>Liberals think
You keep saying this like you actually know what liberals think, but I think your opinion of liberals comes from clickbait and twitter, so you have no idea what actual liberals think about, which means you really ought to shut the fuck up.

>>138677
Let's completely isolate ourselves from russian interference or collusion arguements.

Trump's one reason for firing the FBI director was to restore faith in the FBI for mishandling HIllary's private email server investigation.

Democrat voters were the ones who lost the most faith in the FBI for what Comey's public statements speaking to that prior to the election and that Comey failed to apply a consistent standard by making public that members of Trump's staff were being investigated for collusion with Russians before the last general election.

Whatever faith they had left in the FBI to be an unbiased investigatory body has now been severely diminished by Trump firing Comey right after he requested more resources for the Russia investigation and since now Trump is going to be the one selecting the next FBI director managing the investigation.

Trump himself praised Comey for making public the email investigation a week before the last general election.

The net effect of Trump firing the FBI director at the cusp of their investigation into Trump's campaign is public confidence in the FBI and Trump is going to be rock bottom, and opinion polls are unsurprisingly showing exactly that.

And it completely contradicts EVERYTHING Trump has said to praise Comey for his work into Hillary's investigation.

All conservatives can do now is demand that people not take the president at his word because he lies a lot but we should have faith that he's acting in our interest. This is ridiculous, it's precisely Watergate but worse because now collusion with a foreign government is implicated.

>>138694
Add to that the complication that came out just a few hours ago:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/james-comey-had-requested-more-money-for-fbi-s-russia-investigation-before-being-fired-u-s-official-1494433061

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/us/politics/comey-russia-investigation-fbi.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-comey-replacement-idUSKBN1861HK

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-director-comeys-firing/story?id=47318625

>>138692
I know that you think you're unique and open minded, but it's the total opposite.

Do you think this shit makes me happy? You think I like talking to marxist communists (who think they're moderate geniuses)?

It doesn't get better. Every day its like you people grow more similar are predictable.

Attemping to converse with your ilk is the most mind numbing activity one can imagine, but you never shut up. NEVER.

Every thread. Every board. Every website. There's always one faggot trying to shit it all up.

>hey don't you hate white people
>hey don't you like communism
>[repeats]

Please take control of the farms and starve already.

>>138704
It must be hell being a right wing extremist, everyone being more liberal than you, but don't expect any sympathy when you have a chronic impulse to call people commies like you're on the House UnAmerican Activities Committee in 1953 or something. You do understand that very few real communists, if any, post here, correct? There are more non-Communist Russians that post here than Communist non-Russians.

>>138710
This is only my experience on the internet.

Real life people are moderate and sensible.

>>138710
No, the sickness began back in the enlightenment with the so called age of reason. Do you think society tolerated all these scientists, academics, and intellectuals before then? No, it was the strong and righteous who ruled, people who could build empires with the sweat of their brow and prowess of their sword arms.

>>138704
Judging by all your crazy rants I don't think you even know what "communism" means.>>138719
>No, it was the strong and righteous who ruled, people who could build empires with the sweat of their brow and prowess of their sword arms.
And I'm pretty sure you don't know what "righteous" means either if you think it involves violently enslaving people.

How do I join Anonymous and help expose all of these peasants?

>>138721
Sounds like he was talking about the real kings and queens. The original ones who loved their people.

You're thinking of the [REDACTED] who took over later and [REDACTED] up the world.

>>138728
>Sounds like he was talking about the real kings and queens. The original ones who loved their people.
So he's talking about a fantasy world, got it

>>138511

A bastion of intelligence if I ever saw one

There is no proof of any Russian connection yet. It doesn't matter how strong the evidence is for one side, if it isn't proven 100% that it happened, then it isn't fact.

>>138927
That doesn't mean we can't talk about the possibility though. Like Hillary's emails, or the the former first lady being a dude. Why so defensive?

>>138697
Provide legitimate proofs to support these ridiculous claims and fantasies or Shut the fuck Up. I think You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, my friend. Stop quoting shit you hear on the news or learn online. Think for yourself and only trust what can be verified with your own two eyes.

>>138931
t. Sergei

>>138931
>Think for yourself
but you don't want me to think for myself.

We are at peace with East Comey. We have always been at peace with East Comey.

So, Comey is no longer the Dems’ Emmanuel Goldstein?

Anyone see the Colbert segment when he announced that Comey was fired and his lemming audience cheered? He then had to chastise them for this doubleplusungood reaction; they hadn’t yet been inculcated with the new talking point.

James Comey was becoming a very dangerous fellow. He was relishing the power he had usurped and the attention he was getting by repeatedly engaging in publicity stunts that was very unbecoming of his office. He was misusing his security clearance to enhance his own image, never mind any laws that circumscribed his power. It is better he is gone and we will soon get an honest and straight-forward chap to replace him. Reince Priebus has been out of focus lately and he would be an excellent choice for the position. If I had my way I would appoint Rudy Giuliani for the post to clean up Comey's mess.

>>138941
>implying all democrats everywhere were in lock step about wanting Comey gone
Most democrats didn't want him fired after it was found out that Russia tilted the election for Trump and Comey was the chief investigator. It kind of puts those Hillary emails in the proper perspective.

>>138943
great spin

>>138656
Thanks for posting this anon

>>138658
He's not calling you an antisemite, he's merely pointing out the similarities in argument techniques. Not necessarily you, but a lot of anons on this thread seem more delighted in Hillary's loss than Trump's non-existent policy victories

But really, why did Trump think it was a good idea to fire the guy who was investigating the hottest election in years for possible tampering? Does he not realize that this makes it seem like he's trying to hide something? Why not wait until the investigation is concluded?

>>138963
He doesn't consider it to be a real accusation in the first place. He's staying with the 'fake news' defense.

>>138704
>Moderate length post directed towards liberals about how awful it makes him feel to communicate with liberals

Do you not remember last November, when Trump was praising the hell out of Comey and last December and January when Trump kept snuggling up to Comey? Regardless, we have evidence that Trump clearly saw the FBI director in a negative light because he would not investigate the wiretapping claims (there is no evidence to support these claims, other than that they turned up some files that came up while the FBI was chasing Russians(and that time we have proof of Russian meddling)).

Regardless, the move makes Trump either doing a 180, or being guilty of something worth firing Comey for

>>138974
>how can trump fire somebody he once complimented?????
>THIS IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE! THE PRESIDENT'S MOTIVES ARE NOT PERFECTLY CLEAR TO ME!!!!

>>138117
PRAISE KEK OUR ALMIGHTY FATHER

>>138979
he fired him the day after additional funding into the investigation on him was requested.

His motives seem pretty clear to me.

>>138966
Trump doesnt actually believe the fake news line he spews. He watches fox and other networks his whole life. The fake news line is a form of thought control, he urges his supporters to be selective over what news they believe, that which is favorable to trump, to believe, and vice versa. 1d chess is all you need for those idiots.

>>138296
>>>138290
>He's a patriot. Risking his life to better America.

>>5 deferments for service Viet Nam paid for by his daddy (most likely) but 4 for being in college and one for "bad feet" (even while he continued to play sports)
>>patriot

Pick one.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/30/medical-deferment-allowed-trump-dodge-vietnam-war.html

I chose the article specifically from Fox News so as to avoid any argument about "fake news"

>>138981
>he fired him the day after additional funding into the investigation on him was requested.
Unconfirmed.
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/862697313080406017/video/1
>Senator: "Can you confirm that that request [funding request for Russia probe] was, in fact, made?"
>McCabe: "I can not confirm that request was made. As you know, when we need resources, we make those requests here. So, I'm not aware of that request and it's not consistent with my understanding of how we request additional resources.That said, we don't typically request resources for an individual case. And, as I mentioned, I strongly believe that the Russia investigation is adequately resourced."

>His motives seem pretty clear to me.
Because you're a useful idiot desperate to have your dislike for Trump validated at any cost, regardless of evidence.

>>138985
He has a medical condition

Tons of people have sinilar reasons for not going to war. As if you'd go, LOL

>>138983
>1d chess is all you need for those idiots.

Continue to roll your eyes, you spineless piece of shit. They'll be a reckoning one of these days, mark my words, and we'll have a hootenanny on the carcass of liberalism.

>>138993
>we
You keep saying this like you and your farmer buddies have some kind of numbers behind you when in reality a couple of well armed cops will probably shoot you in the middle of a freeway if you even come close to trying what you describe. Not that I don't agree with you that it will be glorious, but for very different reasons than you.

So... he publicly fired comey in the most embarrassing possible way he could while knowing that comey could link him to russia and possibly get him impeached and then crossed his fingers hoping that comey wouldn't retaliate? Yeah... sounds logical. It's like people are playing partisan politics not using simple math. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs. There has been ZERO PROOFS.

>>139004
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#Social_media_and_internet_trolls

>Clint Watts, Foreign Policy Research Institute fellow and senior fellow at the Center for Cyber and Homeland Security at George Washington University, and Andrew Weisburd reported for The Daily Beast in August 2016 that Russian propaganda fabricated articles were popularized by social media.[38] The authors wrote that disinformation spread from government-controlled outlets, RT and Sputnik to pro-Russian accounts on Twitter.[38] Citing research by Adrian Chen, they compared Russian tactics during the 2016 U.S. election to Soviet Union Cold War strategies.[38] They referenced the 1992 United States Information Agency report to the U.S. Congress, which warned about Russian propaganda called active measures.[38] They wrote active measures were made easier with social media.[38] Institute of International Relations Prague senior fellow and scholar on Russian intelligence, Mark Galeotti, agreed the Kremlin operations were a form of active measures.[39] The Guardian wrote in November 2016 the most strident Internet promoters of Trump were paid Russian propagandists, estimating several thousand trolls involved.[40]
You're one of them.

>>139009
What is the Russian obsession with "proofs?" I don't mean the concept of asking for more evidence, but just word. It's grammatically incorrect. One does not ask for "proofs" unless they are a mathematician; they ask for proof, singular.

Yet I see this syntax of "Where is proofs, friend" or "show me the evidences, my brother" all over /int/, krautchan, /pol/, and /news/. There's even a meme involving crudely drawn chickens apparently associated with it.

>>139010
I thought it was reddit

>>139010
non fluent speakers. i've seen them shilling on /b/ as well both before/during the election and recently regarding syria.

>>138117
comey should not test the waters he's drench in.. he should just take the salary and move on

>>139010
i hear that phrase used more often by people sarcastically mocking trump supporters
its pretty much just a meme at this point though.

>>139014
how does this relate, i don't get what you're saying?

Whelp:

https://www.vox.com/2017/5/11/15628276/trump-comey-fired-russia

>But regardless of [the] recommendation, I was going to fire Comey. Knowing there was no good time to do it!

>And in fact when I decided to just do it I said to myself, I said, “You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story, it’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should’ve won.”

He has now literally admitted, on camera, that he fired Comey because of the investigation into Russian ties to the Trump campaign.

>>139092
>inb4 there's still no proof

Regardless of any guilt of collusion with the Russians, how is firing someone because they are investigating executive corruption not questionable? Come Cletus, state your case

>>138991

The medical reason he gave would have restricted him from playing the sports he was playing at the time (lacrosse amongst them)

Insofar as serving: I didn't have to face going to war during my coming of age (between Gulf Wars) and declined joining but had spoken to recruiters. I would have had a non-combat role. The vast majority of my family members/ancestors have served in every conflict since the Revolutionary War. We no longer have any active service members at this time as my cousin lost his life disarming an IED in Afghanistan 5 years ago (USMC EOD). No one old/young enough to serve in the family at this time.

You probably don't give a shit in general, but to a Gold Star family member, Trump is blatantly full of shit and has no honor to me. And it is patently obvious you chose not to read the articles.

I bid you good day.

>>138991
Misspoke re:lacrosse
I need coffee. It was football, tennis and squash; and was taking up golf. He had been in perfect health.Then when he graduated he developed immediate bone spurs. Conveniently

>>138496
No I asked because I can't personally fathom why someone likes a flip-flopping, ineloquent, emotional, "businessman" and reality TV star who's policies so far have been exactly in the opposite of what people would want beyond immigration even then he can't deliver has literally next to no support beyond people patting him on the head so they can get rid of stuff they've been trying to do for at least 6 years. A man who's only stake so far has been to brag about how untouchable he is

So yeah I'm genuinely asking why someone would support him, why someone would logically support him and don't give me that "Well, he's better than Clinton!" garbage. They are both irredeemable pieces of trash and the fact that they even got as far as they did is a sign that America is fucked if people let this happen

>>139129
>Got us out of TTP/TTIP
>H1B reforms have begun
>ICE has been unleashed
>NAFTA set to be renegotiated or abandoned based on those negotiations
Rule of thumb has been to give him about a month after he says/does something outlandish to see what happens. He is pretty predictable once you get his pattern down and if you pirate art of the deal you could read the manual he uses, step by step, and watch it unfold along the way. Most of the flip flopping has been either planned for something (giving up on healthcare for a bit and then forcing the issue) or just being part of running the government for the first time. Unlike being a CEO he is going to have to play ball to get the things he wants out of government. I know most Trunp supporters were too blinded by the zeal he had but it was to be expected. The 4 I listed (with the exception of nafta but a compromise will do) are the meat of what I voted for him on. The ME shit, tax breaks, healthcare reform etc were all things I can certainly hope for but its naive to believe these things can be fixed by a president alone.

>>139139
if you are honest about supporting Trump for those reasons then you are far, far in the minority.

>>139140
>far in the minority.
On 4chan
I hope you don't get the impression that majority of trump supporters are like kids at /pol/

>>139145

I 100% do to be honestm

Its only anecdotal, but every Trump supporter I know IRL is a "high energy" cheerleader-type guy and almost all of the interviews Ive seen done with Trump supporters show the same.

And in polls and stuff it always seems like most of his supporters do have that stupid blind 'godemperor' style adoration of him that i despise

>>139145
Most of his supporters I run into online seem to be the alt-right types, or older people like my grandparents who pass around low quality conspiracy chain emails. In RL, most of the guys I know who voted for him cited Clinton as the main reason, just like many liberals voted for Clinton because of Trump. If somebody else had been running against them, they would have likely sat it out in protest.

Democrats: Fire Comey!

*Trump fires Comey*

Democrats: He fired Comey to cover his trail!


Literally moving the goal post.

>>139189
They're like a bunch of spoiled babies. Here's hoping Trump gets someone like Giuliani or Chavez in their to end this Russia fiasco and reorient the FBI to where it should.

>>139189
>Democrats: Fire Comey!
Steve Cohen and Harry Reid were the only elected Democrats that called for Comey to resign. Other Democrats admitted that Comey had lost his credibility, but did not call for Trump to fire him.

>>139189

Virtually no relevant Democrats said this, retard. Fucking neck yourself.

Leave it to Trumptards to lack the understanding that it's possible to disagree and agree with different actions that an individual takes.

>>139194

>Hillary personally called for Comey's removal

Like most of the DNC wanted him axed. And could you please not resort to name calling?

>>139194
It isn't his fault really, Fox News has been playing the Maxine Waters and Schumer clips ad nauseum and slipping the phrase "Democrats wanted to fire him!" into every 15 minute block of programming.

>>139195
>Most of the DNC wanted him axed
According to whom? Sean Hannity?

>>139197

According to the entirely of DNC that stood behind Hillary's opinion on Comey. He did good damage to her election and they don't like it.

>>139199
Why are republicans stuck in a October 2016 Time Warp? It's like they keep trying to pretend like we don't now know that Comey was also investigating Russian collusion in the 2016 elections. Is it just denial that the investigations are real or it is that you honestly have nothing else to defend Trump's position with but 6 month old attacks on Hillary?

>>139199
>. He did good damage to her election and they don't like it.
they didn't asked him to be fired for it though.

>>139201
Well, they do keep bringing up Clinton and stating how she's attempting to stage a coup with dark pizza parlor pedophilia-canibal magic and the deep state.

>>139201

Because they totally didn't just decide to side with him after he "claimed" to have dirt on Trump, right. They wanted him out until he was fired. Comey isn't credible, and neither are their claims because of bias. They don't even need comey to probe anything. This entire fiasco is just backlash.

Seems to me he had to do the hits on HRC as he knew that he would be doing much worse to DT only he thought HRC would be in charge. His planning was a little off but DT should be/is scared shitless.

>>139189

except Trump explicitly stated he fired Comey because he didnt like the Russia investigation today

>>139203
I sat through watching an episode of Sean Hannity's show last night and 90% of it was dedicated to the question of "Should the Hillary email investigation be reopened?" with more than one guest going down the full election season list off laws she and Obama supposedly broke, in soundbite form for maximum indoctrination and retention by Hannity's loyal viewers so they can parrot it back in everyday conversation all that much easier. No mention of Trump's flip-flops about Comey or anything actually happening in the news. He just called it "fake news" and went on to talk about Hillary even more just minutes after that. The campaign truly never ended for these people after the election.

>>139207
Republicans don't have a good boogeyman anymore now that Obama and Hillary are gone, so they try to blame Schumer or Pelosi or the MSM, and it just isn't the same.

>>138117
>obsolete
love trump..amazing hard working guy...respect from india

>>139209
What are you even talking about, we don't need a boogey man


We're making America great again, whilst democrats desperately search for a way to stop us.

>>139225
America was already great you boot-licking lemming.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/upshot/how-abnormal-was-comeys-firing-experts-weigh-in.html?ribbon-ad-idx=6&rref=upshot

>>139226
>being patriotic
>being against the "America First" agenda

Pick 1 and only 1

>>139234
It's a recycled marketing jingle slogan for a disused politcal party from the 1940s, Anon, and you took the bait hook, line and sinker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee

>>139237
You're just assuming I didn't know that because liberals must assume the worst of their opposition. It's the only way your pretentious ignorance can "function."

History repeats itself. I didn't fall for anything.

America first was the right choice then, and its the right choice now.

>>139234

Conservatives just call it "America First" because they cannot into sequential logic. That's why our priorities are fucked and our country is going to shit. We don't want to adopt homeless children to parents of the wrong religion or who fuck the wrong way. Contraceptives are bad but if conception occurs the rape victim needs to let the clump of cells develop into a baby even if the mother won't care for it. We prefer economic growth to mitigating serious risk of planetary catastrophe. Science is a conspiracy. Expert opinion in general is a conspiracy. Gut the NIH but create more menial labor jobs. Why are we against authoritarians and neo nazis? It turns out they're on our side! If you shoot up a church we stay quiet but turn over a dumpster and it's fascism. FEMA camps are real but journalists make fake news. After a banking crisis, what we need is less regulation to prevent the next. Sell all our personal information to the highest bidder. Sell our health to the highest bidder. Sell everything; that's freedom. The gays and the immigrants are why I have a difficult life, not

Conservatives wear their brain backward. Everything good is bad, everything hateful and destructive is America 1st. Not wanting to actively harm the prospects of our society's future generations makes one a cuck.

>>139247
You're obviously a traitorous liberal. As if I'm going to read your wall of misleading bullshit. I can see enough buzzwords at a glance to see you're an idiot.

>>139248
There's not one (1) buzzword in that post. Your statements only propagate the notion that conservatives are too ignorant to even bother reading something with which they disagree.

>>139261
>not one (1) buzzword

Haha. Let's see, you walking breathing meme.

>sequential logic
>homeless children
>Contraceptives are bad
>rape victim
>clump of cells
>economic growth
>planetary catastrophe.
>Science is a conspiracy
>Expert opinion
>authoritarians and neo nazis
shoot up a church
>FEMA camps
>banking crisis
>less regulation
>personal information
>highest bidder.
>our health

>Conservatives backwards
>our society's future generations

>>139309
Please learn what a buzzword is. Those aren't buzzwords, their just words. Oh and I'm not the guy you're responding to so don't bother replying, I won't read it.

>>139325

>I'm not the guy you're responding to
>I won't read it.

Suuuure thing bud

>>139309
>"rape victim" is a buzzword
What do you think we should call people who are forced into nonconsensual sex by a third party instead?

>>139333
An unwilling sperm recipient.

>>139333
that only applies if the agressor is a non-white male, obviously.

>>138128

> being this obviously from /pol/

>>139362
>not being from /pol/
>thinking you know shit because you aren't racist

>>139333
Like this has to do with anything.

But I'm sure pretending to have a point helps your self esteem. That's important.

>>139404

He said it was a buzzword
I pointed out it wasnt

no matter which party you support i think its pretty clear that guy was being retarded, theres no need to get all precious over a simple correction

pleatotrump.wordpress.com

this dude, is a traitor and deserves the wall.
trump let him off I would kill him for what he is doing .
death to traitors.

>>139405
>buzzword
>a phrase that usually sounds important and is used primarily to impress

Got it?
That post was chock full of bullshit meant to sound important.

Do you prefer the term "virtue signaling," or "memes?" It's bullshit either way. Fuck off

>>139409
Doubt you're even American.

>>139409
You gotta punish liberals where it hurts; you gotta go after their families, their children:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article150397682.html

>>139635
Whoowee, we gunna make dem cityfolk librul sumsobitches squeel like a sow in heat alright! Dem yankees are gonna be as sorry as a tarbaby coon they ever crossed us I tell ya.

>>139644
Whad 'n' tarnation?