I like it better than the 700 and N700 series, fight me /n/erds
Sad the final livery looks worse than the original...
Still the best looking 'strayan train
Futuristic styling with 1960s technology
>not posting streamlined cab car
>runs in chicago loop
>railway grade track inter city
>and in city streets
>both high and low platform heights
>essentially a light rail vehicle 30 years ahead of its time
>still utilized a fucking trolley pole
What's with you america and trolley poles? We got rid of them like in 1910s. (On the other hand, our last two axle cars were delivered like 1949...)
Not enough appreciation for workhorses.
Sorry about this being a model. Last one was scrapped in the 30's.
Can't wait for this bad boy to roll out, also saw a picture of the cab with funky UV lights in it, cannot confirm whether this an actual feature of the train yet but it looked awesome.
They were planning on fully modernizing the catenary system, with the goal of eventually switching to pantographs, but the Great Depression hit, and the railroad never again had the money to finish. When it was abandoned in 1963, most of the equipment was at least 30-40 years old.
Pretty much any Stadler doubledecker is sexy as shit
How the fuck do you even see out of that thing?
I'm surprised cab-forward designs weren't more widespread in the era of giant steam.
I think, even if the machines were run with oil from the start, they wanted to retain provision to turn them to coal later, so the oven and everything apart from the oil burner was pretty conventional..
Sadly here sexy externals will not equate to a nice ride. The Class 800/801 has ended up just being the Javelins but in DEMU form, and so will suffer from the 'airplane windows' disease the Pendolinos, Voyagers, and Javelins are cursed with. Also Hitachi have never been able to resolve the hunting with the Javs nor the interior noise levels that no electric train should be exhibiting. Sure the journey time from StPancras to Ashford is a godsend, but I'm as glad to be out of the thing as I am a Pacer at the end. Which is just depressing.
The largest problem for me is the automatic doors. On a HST125 mk3 you still have the sense of freedom associated with being able to open the droplight and see outside, or to get some fresh air. Not possibly having that takes something away from rail travel.
The 800/801 will probably be terrible to actually use, bland, uninteresting, uncomfortable. If it is essentially a 395, longer journeys will not be pleasant, it's ok for a 40 min blast to St Pancras but it doesn't match up to intercity standard.
In all fairness, trolley poles allow for simpler overhead wire design (since it can run straight and not in a zig-zag as is requiered by pantographs), so for streetcar use at least it compensates somewhat for the inconveniences. They do allow relatively high speeds though, the PE ran interurbans at 60-70mph regularily, and it is said to have run their cars up to 90mph (150km/h).
It wasn't just america, in Spain most first generation tram systems had trolleypoles until their closure in the 60's-70's. Alexandria in Egypt has trams running with trolleypoles, and I recall one or two cities in eastern Europe that do so. Also Hong Kong.
Fuck yeah Trolleypoles!
Surprised this hasn't been posted yet.
There's a cab on the other side of the train as well. Only reason they'd take of the locomotive is that something broke or needs maintenance.
The train can run both ways as they are.
It's the most common way to do locomotive-powered passenger trains in europe, right after using multiple-units. These trains run all day (and sometimes also at night). There's no room in the timtable for reconfiguring the train.
Similar to the UK class 91. They form an 'Inter City 225', class 91 leading, with driving van trailer styled as a class 91 at opposite end. The 91 has 2 cabs, although mainly used in the forward position unless there is an issue.
Other cab end:
DVT used to drive from other end:
>Great Western green/ivory
The green rectangles on the doors and the poorly designed 'GWR' logo aside, this livery looks fantastic. It's not over the top, or trying to seem modern. It is a nice colour and recognises the history GWR has.
It's nice on Mk3s where they can put the springs in a nice green making everything match, but on the 800s it won't work. The old fashioned British green style will clash with the shape of a new Japanese unit.
Because they were dangerous as fuck, even minor collisions would be fatal. The crew sat in a crumple zone. Rear-cab trains actually give pretty good visibility in the area that's important, ie far enough ahead that you can actually stop.
Nice, reminds me of smaller class 58 for some reason.
These GE boxcab electrics began operation in 1915 and some remained in service all the way through the end of electrification in 1974. Nearly 60 years of continuous mainline freight and passenger service. They could have kept going even beyond that if electrification wasn't prematurely abandoned.
>>836561 Are we doing land trains? It looks like OP is doing land-train.
DM62 locomotive engine set on top of ballistic rocket mobile wheeled base "Hurricane".
That's a big step backwards.
60 years is alright. Electric locos last longer than diesels with less moving parts, and traction motors may be easily replaced when required. Reminds me of the class 86 here in the UK, built in 1965 and still used.
It pisses me off when people care for trains to be "new", instead of caring for them giving good service. If a 50 year old train runs well and doesn't give any more problem than a new one, there's absolutely no reason to stop using it.
Where I'm at they just retired some 32 year old EMUs, which ran perfectly and were air conditiones, because MUH PROGRESS.
Yeah I completely agree. But pax generally don't know much about railways. They don't know what they want. When they say 'new', they just mean reliable, clean, and comfortable. New trains aren't definitely going to provide that. A simple deep refurb with new seats and an internal repaint is essentially a new train. I hear people discussing how they think they're on a new train when on unrefurbished 15 year old units.
We've got these bad boys running regionals, entered service in 1974, rebuilt in 1993.
In recent times they haven't been too well taken care of, and break down occasionally. I experienced this myself one time, we were left stranded in some shitsville in the middle of fucking nowhere until two hours later they got another train to pick us up. Was kinda fun tho because I was carrying some weed so I just got blazed until the other train got there.
Tell that to JR East who does it just to flaunt its inhouse developed bleeding edge trains. Although more practically, it manages to be cheaper for them and more reliable in the long run
Also, E233 in general. Quite clean and unassuming outside. Although the inside is a storm of ads as always
I'm curious as to where is this, retiring something that ran for 32 years might be necessary if they can't replace parts readily for whatever reason and wear + tear on the frame itself becomes too much
>Came from Hong Kong
>The MTR M-Train began service since the very beginning in 1979 and went through refurbishment in the end of the 1990s
>Apparently they will go through another round of upgrades in a few years
[lolnospoiler] And to think the first sets are actually older than me at this point [/lolnospoiler]
London Underground Bakerloo line has 1972 stock. Refurbed in 2000. Replacement scheduled for 2033.
Snapped this photo at KC union station. Shit angle because I standing on the old rail bridge across the rail yard.
Well, some of the previous units will usually be shortened (ie. 4 to 6 car sets from the previous 10 car sets) and refurbished to replace the even older train sets from the 1960/70s.
/Random useless tidbits on the most number of passenger rail cars built in Japan
JNR 103 Series EMU: 3447
JNR 0 Series Shinkansen: 3216
JR East E233 Series EMU: 3192 (140 double decker Green Car trailers are slated to be added before 2020)
The Scotrail 380 Desiros look fucking sexy and cool IMO.
67006 Royal Sovereign. Royal Claret livery. Folkestone West to London Victoria, Venice-Simplon Orient Express.
Not my cup of tea but it is still nice to see these sorts of trains.
Eurofucks post heir speedy dildos as "sexy"
Dont even know true beauty.
SPSF MOTHA FUCKAS
Because the Milwaukee Road is the classic American underdog story, a railroad with limited resources surrounded by powerful competitors that nonetheless built a transcontinental line to the Pacific, electrified hundreds of miles of mountainous track, and made a successful go of it for over 50 years. The tragedy of the line was that it was ultimately done in by its own management, despite the best efforts and intentions of its employees on the ground. It's a railroad with an interesting and exciting history, with unique aspects as well as familiar ones.
It also had aesthetically pleasing locomotives, paint schemes, and trackside scenery. What's not to like?
London Underground Bombardier Movia sub-surface S-Stock
>What's not to like?
The same foilage-green orange combo all over and over again, trying to overwhelm and kill any topic. Rarely there are posts like yours that provide additional value with information or by showing unique pictures and aspects of the railroad.
Why so mad? Of course we've had older units, that run on less important lines even now.
Pic. somewhat related, obsolete train running on recently de-electrified line. You can still see the poles from overhead lines.
SP "Golden State" train in the late 1940s/early 1950s.
Class 700 just arrived from Siemens Germany.
oh man i'll never get over the 7000s, they're so bad
I can't wait to ride those babies, so stoked.
Also went up to Birmingham on the Pendolino this weekend, some great tilting going on, loved it.
The aircon was not working on the one I took from BHM this morning, also the toilet was niffy. I was on the 390026, still enjoyed the tilting, you go past a big house near rugby on a curve and looking out the window it goes all inception-y.
British Rail invented the tilting technology with this. Had to scrap the project though. Then it somehow got into Alstom and we see the Pendolino a few decades later. Shame they didn't iron out all the issues in that time.
Money. It'll cost about £200,000 just to move it to a place that can actually accommodate it. Not to mention parts, mainline running compliances and red tape.
Basically, there's no plans to get it running and if it were done by the CHC, it'd be shitty job.
It's missing a full first class section, owing to a previous volunteer ripping the seats out and cutting the mountings off.
tl;dr - They can't be bothered and money is a thing. They also have bigger legal issues to worry about, right now.
The one thing I don't get about US traction is why the engines are so huge yet the carriages so small. Talgos and the TGV-A do this too; being a Brit I just don't quite get the designs. Why not have extra tall super-roomy amazeballs saloons?
Whoa! The front of that looks like a freaking walker mech. Or a spaceship. I'd love to see this thing in motion.
Is the Serco livery green or blue, I can never decide.
God no, give me a 170 any day over that monstrosity.
That livery makes me sad inside. Don't know why, just looks a bit unfinished to me.
/The/ worst train experience I've ever had. Uncomfortable and the tilting messed with my head so bad I wanted to hurl. That was with working aircon and no bad smells - although I didn't mind the dimness inside, I get migraines in bright light.
>owing to a previous volunteer ripping the seats out and cutting the mountings off.
Sounds like a bang up job. Did he go on to work on the Flying Scotsman restoration?
There's already a 125 Preservation Group and I think they have a couple of full sets earmarked, but it'll be a while before any of them cascade out of service.
Also Project Miller has the prototype (41001) running again with a Paxman Valenta, and I think they're going to get mainline cert? The only problem is they don't have any stock to run it with; all the prototype MkIII's were either converted, cut up, or are currently part of the Royal Train.
We have those running as metropolitan commuters here in Sao paulo
>In recent times they haven't been too well taken care of, and break down occasionally. I experienced this myself one time, we were left stranded in some shitsville in the middle of fucking nowhere until two hours later they got another train to pick us up. Was kinda fun tho because I was carrying some weed so I just got blazed until the other train got there.
We can relate to this.
>no new AmRo shuttle
Downside to these is that when you see someone you know that you don't really want to spend a half hour long train ride talking to you can't just get in another carriage, it's just one long slug.
Pros outweigh the cons though.
Why not? And that's obviously a yard shot I don't think they ran more than 2 EMUs together on each train.
Fuck yeah, the Tangara in its original livery was fuckin' boss. A fine example of coked up 80s futurism. They don't have the same effect nowadays after being refurbished.
Hankyu 1000. Last millennium styling with relatively recent technology. Kind of like a ThinkPad
They used chopper propulsion while claiming to be the latest and greatest. At the time, VVVF was already becoming widespread (and indeed in the mid 1990s, a set was finally fitted with inverters and AC motors. That set also ended up killing 7 people when the driver died of a heart attack on the controls)
Although I guess you could argue they *did* have artificial intelligence, in the sense that sometimes the train would just have a mind of its own where the brakes wouldn't work
It can use both 1.5 kV DC and 25 kV AC and has diesel engines for unelectrified lines.
The locos are so big because they're built for American rolling stock and loading gauge. The carriages are ass-tiny because they were built in Spain or something. They're the only example of this though. It'd be the same if you coupled up an American locomotive to a rake of UK carriages, it would tower over them.
They're not really tiny, they just have a smaller undercarriage, since they don't use traditional bogies. Regular train cars sit on top of the bogies which sit on top of the wheels, Talgos "hang" from the wheels.
Pic kinda related, it shows a pendular Talgo, but pre-pendular talgos followed the same concept.
It will begin service on November 7th until sometime in Spring 2017, running 1 round trip between Hakata and Shin-Osaka (Kodama 730 from Hakata to Shin-Osaka and Kodama 741 for the return trip, which are all-stops aka fucking slow services). The link below have a good amount of interior shots of cars 1 and 2, which are converted to be EVA-themed
I hate those yellow ones senpai they're so ugly.
This is a tube.
I agree. I hate the subsurface stock, old and new. New (S-Stock/bombardier movia) is worse though due to obnoxious door bell, annoying loud announcements, putrid lighting, and transverse seating. They had it right in the 1960s, a calm comfortable passenger environment which you can relax in and enjoy your journey.
Two-Ten-Zero. Mmmm.... Lets haul stuff. :)
They removed those installations. The food and drink cart was scrapped, and new developments made the possibility to move between two locomotives more and more obsolete, while the maintenance costs for those noses remained.
They nailed the noses shut on every locomotive and removed the installations.
Normally the german Talgos ran with 24 carriages plus a couple of automobile transporters.
That photo however was a non-revenue transfer with 49 carriages, resulting in a train lenght of 660 meters.
video related: http://youtube.com/watch?v=xUSbm9OCLp0
I get boners thinking about this beauty
Was able to split in the middle when going on a ferry.
Was a bitch to maintain and ride, only been on a memorialride though.
Well, the 500 Series is still being used, but all remaining sets (W2-W8) have been shortened from 16 cars to 8 cars and serve only for the Kodama services running between Shin-Osaka and Hakata
W1: Scrapped, Car 1 has been moved to the Kyoto Railway Museum (slated to open next April) while Car 16 is stashed in the Hakata General Stock Center
W2 > V2: Converted to Pla-Rail Car from Summer 2014 to Summer 2015, now converted to 500 Type EVA from now until Spring 2017
W3~W8 > V3~V8: Basically replaced any 0 and 100 Series West JR had for Kodama services
This is the launch ceremony in Shin-Osaka Station for the 500 Type EVA
Same problem that plagued the Talgos then I'm guessing.
I've always liked the TGV Duplexes and similar trains personally.
BR Class 309 pendolino
>voyagerfags on suicide watch
Built in Sweden with American technology (EMD 16-567) used in Hungary. There are several of these, like the NSB Di3 (Norway), DSB My (Danmark).
SNCB 52 and CFL 1600 were built with the same licence but by AFB.
I live near a cement factory and once a month they use a TMX 1033 to move carts of cement. It makes my day every time i see it as it is my favorite train and has been since i was little.
And its ugly cousin
>Even in 1st class it's a disgusting cramped dark ugly and uncomfortable ride.
Can confirm. The toilets stink just as much, too.
Also compared to First Great Western/GWR the service in 1st is fucking laughable on Virgin.
>working aircon and no bad smells
On a Pendo? That's a fucking miracle.
Now that 41001 is running again I reckon someone will set their sights on an APT. Hell if projects like the Baby Deltic or Class 22 rebuilds can get money & people, an APT restoration can.
>The only problem is they don't have any stock to run it with; all the prototype MkIII's were either converted, cut up, or are currently part of the Royal Train.
Technically it doesn't really matter as the only major difference between the prototype & production Mk III's was the electrical and control systems, and 41001 has been rebuilt with systems to match the production coaches (I think) so it can run with a rack of standard Mk III's and you'd be none the wiser. It'll have to run with a production 125 or some other form of DVT at the other end anyway so full authenticity was never going to happen.
DB AG loooooves money, so buys crap and pays crap and kills passengers. whats a little inconvenience if bosses want more moneys? owned by federal state yet run like a corrupted capitalist pigsty
The F40PH in a CSX livery looks much better to me than an Amtrak livery, but sexy all the same.
Mostly corporate excursions, yes. However, they are also sometimes used in yard service, and (very rarely) supplementary freight power.
The 82 class reminds me of the Arzens nose.
Kawasaki M8 sexy? No way, the BL20GH's on the Danbury route are a lot sexier and that isn't saying much.
Always liked this coloration and model better.
That's Alber coupler.
I guess most modern systems use variants of scharfenberg if they do multiple unit operation.
I quite like the class 22000, shame the rail network it runs on is fucking shite.