/prod/ - Music Production General

https://clyp.it/fze4qkpv

https://clyp.it/yqbstpex

https://clyp.it/nm1sr2ok

how bad

>>75038614
this is awesome I wish I could make shit like that. I would have the drums louder though

>>75038614
>https://clyp.it/nm1sr2ok
drums are waay too quiet

>>75037973
no comment
>>75038614
the kick needs to be a bit stronger imo


https://clyp.it/wlwsdvty

what do you think of this as a hip hop instrumental?

>>75038745
>what do you think of this as a hip hop instrumental?
pretty cool very heavy

why is this thread dead?

>>75039098
Because /prod/ sucks

There's lots of books on harmony and melody and shit, is there any decent reading material on drums/percussion?

I'm talking patterns, sampling, effects etc.

>>75039098
because reddit boi made a lame discord that fragmented the anon user base

>>75038699
>>75038737
>>75038745
thanks lads

Is everyone running pirtated Ableton?

>>75039425
i installed it but haven't been using it I just keep using renoise

https://clyp.it/aooltv1l

how is this sounding?

>>75039458
Sounds nice.

>>75039425
mostly, some people here have mentioned buying it in the past

>>75039425
no i dont run pirate stuff

>>75039425
Nah I run pirated FL

>>75039098
because /prod/ is dead
like seriously actually now

the last 5ish threads have all been colossal failures

>>75040724
I think making threads all the time is negative to this general. Should be a day or two before a new thread is made after the old one dies.

>>75040764
desu i used to average like 50 replies in these threads (not all seperate)

idk why, it's such a waste of time

at it's best, there are half hearted responses for producers still in their first couple years making unlistenable shit, somebody asks how to make a particular sound and you get an answer because it's relatively uncomplicated, or frustrated people get to vent

at its worse it's pointless arguments, shitting on people, uninformed opinions and poor gear recommendations that could have been answered on google in 5 minutes

>>75041003
I'm a production newfag who started in april and I've made most of my progress by posting unlistenable shit here and getting told why it's shit, so it's not completely pointless.

>>75041091
eh, i shouldn't have said a waste of time

idk maybe i'm just butthurt that i didn't know about these threads for my first 3 years so couldn't ever benefit from them lol

>>75039425
Cubase user checking in

https://clyp.it/yqbstpex

how is this?

i wish there wasn't any separation between these threads and the bandcamp + soundcloud ones so that there would be people here and people there

Best DAW for musique concrete?

>>75041442
stupid as fuck idea, all those threads are for is spamming your page and leaving >i like this recommended so people will check you out

>>75041885
ableton or renoise

How do you guys troubleshoot for noise and eliminate noise in your monitor speakers? I've got a pair of Presonus Eris monitor speakers (which I've owned for 3+ years now), and I've never been able to get rid of the hum and hiss that's coming out of them. I've tried:
>Plugging each speaker into its own dedicated grounded wall outlet
>Using brand new balanced speaker cables, a brand new audio interface (audient id14), and a new usb cable
>Plugging my keyboards directly into the speakers with balanced cables
>Using the speakers in 4 different households (with dedicated grounded wall outlets for each speaker every time)
Did I just get a pair of lemons? This shit is so frustrating; I can't mix or listen to music with them and have to use my headphones for everything. I'm afraid if I buy a new pair of studio monitors I'll just have the same issues. What do?

>>75042079
>Did I just get a pair of lemons?

yes lol. if nothing else fixed it it's the monitors homie.

>>75042079
google Presonus Eris noise
you aren't alone

>>75042079
>putting up with that for 3 years
i wouldnt be able to handle that bs

>>75042120
>>75042174
>>75042242
Any recommendations for monitor speakers?

>>75042287
they're just monitors

you need to post a budget buddy

>>75042338
$300 range?

Hey guys, does anyone know how to make a gradual scale in MIDI? I think I don't know the right way to ask this because my google results are irrelevant, but I want to make a synth sound that gradually goes down an octave. I've tried messing with velocity, sustain release etc but you can still clearly hear each note being hit instead of a gradual "slide"

>>75042817
fuck I actually figured it out I'm an idiot
for anyone interested I just added a pitch down shift filter and used the envelopes to mess with the wet and dry mixes
sage for double post

>>75042817
>>75042888
What the fuck man

>>75042662
That's hella low

Used hs5s/hs50s or those jbl lsr whatevers is the best you can get, they're alright though

>>75042956
i meant instead writing out the scale in MIDI and trying to blend it I used one note but added a pitch shifter that fades in to make it a smooth "whhoooow"

>>75043098

Can't you just have done this with MIDI pitch bend?

>>75039425
go away FBI

Does anyone here feel really limited due to a small controller? I've got a 25 key one and finally decided to just put up with it until I can afford a new one. Can make decent songs but you're really really limited with a small controller, fucking sucks

>>75042817
>I want to make a synth sound that gradually goes down an octave

Use a pitch envelope if you want all of your notes to slide down the same way, use portamento if you want each note to slide up/down to the next note, and use pitch bend if you want to arbitrarily alter pitch by varying amounts for each note.

>>75043145
well shit that makes it a lot simpler
I realized I couldn't search for it properly because I forgot about the fucking term glissando
thank you I am a retard when it comes to MIDI stuff, it also didn't help that in my DAW it's called pitch wheel so I glanced right past it

>>75043195
until you get a bigger one you can record the parts you cant reach with midi overdub but it is not that fun

>>75043098
so not just using glide lol

>>75043195
never even had a controller and plenty of people don't, that's a bitch excuse

you need to up your midi programming game if you can't make that work

>>75043195
>not programming what you can't play
It's not a big deal desu, unless you're programming classical music or some shit.

>>75037973
HOLY FUCK THAT IS DOPE HOW DOES THIS NOT HAVE MORE REPLIES

>>75038540
not apealing honestly. cool random sounds....

>>75041383
same, sync the bass up at least and play in a key....

pls to tell how do thanks
https://clyp.it/hkogsey0

>>75044100
pretty cool.

>>75044100
Sounds ok, very boring tho.

lets stay up all night homies

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tfw renoise but cant into pattern commands

>>75044581
but it's only 9:30 and i'm already getting schleepy '___'

>>75044609
are you the ONE renoise guy in these threads lmao

>>75044665
i might be the second today is the first day I came here in ages. renoise is the shit I hope the other guy shows up

>>75044609
What is your malfunction?

Google "Renoise cheat sheet"

>>75038614
this could be some great video game music

>>75037973
get an old white dude to do a howlin' wolf impersonation over that for a minute and you'll have a 21st century beefheart

>>75038745
it's very industrial sounding and could be a bit more dynamic but i could i def could see it being rapped over

Hey guys,

It's been years since I fucked with any music software, but I want to give it a whirl again. I've screwed with Fruity Loops and Mixcraft in the past, but it's been long enough that I'll basically be learning from scratch.

What's the current go-to for producing electronic music?

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>>75039425
Logic,
Does anyone know if there are any complications when switching from a pirated DAW to legit? Like will my files be able to open, pirated plugins, purchased plugins, etc.

I was using pirated logic to finish a project but now that it's done i'm definitely going to buy it, really the best DAW for the $$ if you use mac

Ableton costs 1k for the full version, who's actually gonna buy that unless they're professional? and the industry standard is still pro tools which is like 400

>>75045555
fl studio and ableton live have the most tutorials and resources available

>>75045612

Which would you say is the easiest to learn for a casual faggot that just wants to make some chill / dank / dark beats?

>>75045638
>easiest
i dont know how to answer that you just have to try daws and choose what you like working with

>>75042662
>>75042287
I just got a pair of HS5s for 250 used on ebay. There's usually a pair of those on ebay for cheap, watch out for them.

>audio engineer
>rappers and pop singers that I record always making reference to pop 40 shit that I don't know

I need to listen to more top 40 stuff. I don't enjoy it all but I feel like I should just listen to it to be aware of what's going on nowadays on the radio. Sucks when a rapper is like "yo does this sound like ____" and I'm like "I don't know". Having an extensive knowledge of 60s ukranian progressive bongo-rock doesn't help me out in the studio

https://clyp.it/4duxwxrr

thoughts?

>>75046036

Interesting, but man I can't jam OR groove to this. Too discordant.

>>75046036
>post 5 songs in thread

>>75045996
Bro at least have a few for reference tracks

I hope they're not asking you for artistic input lol, if hey ask for a certain sound that's not as big a deal

>>75046923
As an engineer you often also play the role of a producer (not "producer" as in "someone who produces electronic music" but rather "producer" as in "someone who helps creatively drive/guide a project"); even if it just means advising the artist on whether or not they should re-do a take, or how they should approach a vocal, or even simply letting them know if what they're doing is corny or not.

Because of my experience with recording, I can know whether or not a performance is technically good no matter what genre. But I can't really know if something is cliche'd or out of date if I'm not that familiar with the genre. I feel like I should just listen to more top 40 stuff, to improve that aspect of my abilities

>>75040577
only patrician choice

>>75047475
Being a producer is definitely not an engineers job. Saying redo a take or just off handedly mentioning something should be more aggressive or soft etc is fine- telling them to rewrite lyrics or do a harmony there crosses the line and warrants you be payed / credited as a co producer.

I get what you mean about the lack of familiarity, but imo as long as you're not suggesting they due a tpain style auto tune for the entire song it's kind of hard to sound dated if you're just doing a good job. (Fuck even future does that so even that's not bad) Shit like a gated reverb on old drum machines in a sea of cheesy synth sounds etc is glaringly obvious though. Corny lyrics aren't a big deal

I mean it's a good idea to get current I guessing. What techniques do you expect to catch up on? The only things I can think of are creative choices that aren't really up to the engineer

>>75048651
I disagree, it totally depends on the session. I've had many sessions where the client asks me for my creative input, people are just generally open to ideas like that. Offering an idea like a lyric change or a harmony is totally in the norm for an engineer.

Sure there are times where there's already a producer, or an artist is producing themselves and isn't open to input from anyone else and the engineer in that context is strictly a technician. But that's why it depends on the session and what the vibe is. For bigger artists you need to be a little careful because they are wary of people who are just trying to weasel their way into getting points or credit on a track; but shit I've had high level artists ask for my opinion when I was an intern. Just depends on the situation

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tfw /prod/ is dead

>>75043302
>that's a bitch excuse
>you need to up your midi programming game if you can't make that work


I disagree. Don't power through things thinking you don't need to spend money. Its all hard enough, if you can make it easier on yourself, do it. Don't eat mcdonalds; its expensive and unhealthy.

>>75043302
shut up dickface, there's no need to embrace limitations which are genuinely detrimental to your workflow/process overall

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Whats better mk3 or studio?

>>75044100
This is good, I like the chord progression

Imo kick is too boxy/punchy, I'd reference a kick from basic channel for this one.
Also on the chords, automate the sustain/decay slowly over time, it will add some interest

would this benefit from a 250hz cut and a 10k shelf boost?
https://clyp.it/nwcw5ljl

does this have too many high mids (3~5k i guess)
https://clyp.it/rmo40eht

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https://clyp.it/jofufnu0
do the drums work? what do you think of this?
is it cozy?

bhamp

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>tfw comfy Saturdee mornin producin

whats up you do-nothing friendos

can you please take a listen at this and tell what annoys you about it

https://clyp.it/uvtmdhxi

old master had too much highmids and shrilling highsm i'm trying to get it balanced

>>75041164
How do you like it?

>>75045638
FL interface seems "easier". But it's all a learning curve

>>75051583
Never tried either. Both are an extension of your abilities so.

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Folky atmospheric song, tried making some lo-fi bombastic drums - sliding over to noise for a bit. Does it work? Does it just feel forced?

https://clyp.it/3hf2jtm2

Who /hardwareonly/ here

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https://clyp.it/svpztaa1

thoughts on this?

>>75051583
Depends if you need the built in audio interface on the mk3?
I have the studio and the mk3 looks pretty similar to me

please help me master-EQ this piece of trash, for turd's sake
it was sounding too shrilling and tiring and now i made it muddy

https://clyp.it/dptjsk1g

heres reference (kind of)
https://clyp.it/vtykk1to

who here /mastereffects/

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only have a hook recorded

https://clyp.it/fdlzctf2

can i get some opinions on the mix, general sound, and vocal production?

thank you

>>75056949
Mix is muddy because of how the piano and synth's low end clash with eachother. Vocals are very pitchy, torrent Melodyne and learn to use it

>>75057075
okay thanks

when you say pitchy to you mean they fluctuate too much or are just off key?

>>75057169
Both

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>>75056608
think its more balanced now and closer to the reference. can someone double check it to me

https://clyp.it/22zwyzd2

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>>75057845
>>75056608
>boost highs
>it get shrill and earpiercing again

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>exported track sounds different in the daw

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https://clyp.it/cofi0glo

Does this needs more synths or is it fine this way ?

Comments on the mix are also greatly appreciated

thanks

>>75058427
stop emulating me.

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>>75057075

I EQ'd everything more and tried to fix the vocals

https://clyp.it/idhrlqwx

does this sound any better than this >>75056949

>>75058541
emulating what ?

>>75058715
my posts

>>75058427
this is nice

i think theres enough

i'd eq the main synth more so that you it's clearer and more defined, boost the highs a little and bump it up around 1 - 2k mark

>>75058734
what posts

>>75058810
yeah i'll do that
thanks for the advice

whats up with that hype for fruit loops-based muddy noisey music. i open soundcloud and /prod/ and its all i see

>>75058427
Does it sound out of tempo on purpose?

>>75058848
Is it hype or is it amateurs who don't put enough stock into the sonic qualities of their music and can't break out of the loop based format?

>>75058930
its not loop based i mean fl studio

>>75058902
yeah I left some bits unquantized on purpose

>>75058944
Oh, I haven't used FL studio.

What do you mean by fuit loops/based music then?

>>75058996
cheap stuff you make on fruit loops studio

What are some essential effects I should have/be using that aren't stock ableton already?

Just got the D16 group of effects which I really enjoy, anything else that be considered a must?

>>75058930
what?

link a track in this thread that is like that

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How would this work for the melody of a rap instrumental?

https://clyp.it/ehqndwn5

https://clyp.it/nkdjfib0

is it sounding gud and close to the reference? got rid of all the annoying frequencies i could pick up.

reference:
https://clyp.it/vtykk1to

>>75059086
i like soundtoys

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>>75059367
someone please

>>75051583
Well the mk3 just got released so i doubt anyone on this board has one yet. I have an MK2 and honestly it's okay, you really get it for how it coincides with the software.

The main difference is that you can do more directly from the studio without your laptop, but you can work solely from the mk2/3 as well. I usually like doing most of my editing and quantizing directly on the laptop so the mk2 was good for me, but if you'd rather stick solely to the pad then probably the studio.

I'd go for the mk3 though, it's a newer model and both pieces of hardware give you the same sound, one is just $300 cheaper

>>75059475
>>75059367
stop begging faggot

haven't listened to this in a while but it sounds like you neutered from the mix i remember. the only thing that really stuck out from your reference is your snare having no presence

>>75060099
didnt get the neutered sentence but will work on the snare, thanks
i assume the overall eq is fine, not shrilling or muddy

Computer or Laptop?

>>75060630
I use a laptop out of convenience but if I could I'd use a desktop pc.

>>75060630
laptop for sure

you can work anywhere

>>75045610
protools is prohibitively fucking expensive without a student license
it sucks shit for production anyways, it's only good for recording

you're right, logic is the best DAW for production. it's only so cheap because it's mac exclusive, but all the features you get for that price are insane. you can basically forego using protools for like a third of the price

reaper > protools
plus basic vsti usage
prove me wrong (brotip: you can't)

i have a korg minilogue that i use for jamming and stuff but ive never used it for purely electronic music. can i use it as a midi controller in ableton? am i retarded?

>>75061387
it might have midi controlling capabilities but only for the keyboard. otherwise, you're better off buying an actual controller if you want to move knobs and shit

>>75061410
i also have a full size digital piano. it has a usb type B output. would that work?

>>75061526
again, that'll only control the keyboard. if you want to assign DAW parameters to knobs or faders to control, you'll need an actual controller. if you just want to play stuff with the keys you're good to go

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is this song finished? eq, etc? pls
https://clyp.it/1bngkkae

>>75061387
Yes you're an retard. Just try it out or look up if you can map knobs
>>75061410
It sounds like you don't actually know. Plenty of synths have mappable knobs

>>75061284
>>75061305
>reaper fags trying to justify their baby daw and shit on an industry standard

>>75060630
Computer is better for the money everybody knows that

>>75062423
>Yes you're an retard.
oh the irony

>>75059086
Valhalla reverb

>>75062461
t. first week on 4chan

wait a while before you start posting faggot

i've been on 4chan for a few months fuck off you nigger

>>75062559
faggot

cant hear anything in my ableton. was working fine the other day

>>75062559
>few months

woah we have a veteran here

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>>75062797
>/blogpost
nice one

>>75062898
>>75062868
>>75062717
>>75062559
>>75062522
>>75062461

i wonder if having a few dedicated antagonists is better than having /prod/ really be dead

>>75062898
im obviously looking for advice! pls no bully

>>75062985
i like the guy who shits on peoples clyps

>>75063035
We know, you ask for him every fucking thread

can you guys stop arguing already and help with my song >>75062294

ah nevermind, heres the updated clyp:
https://clyp.it/hqdg5iap

>>75059051
>shitting on FL
newfag detected

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>>75062559
kekkeke

i been on 4 chan for a entire year

u know nothing newfag

>>75063284
i been on 4chan for almost 5 years now, take this

>>75063174
stop begging for listens faggot

it sounds fine

>>75063311
im insecure about the master eq

>>75063300
same but everybody who's been around for that long is more ashamed than proud, so now everybody knows you're full of shit

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>>75061284

logic master race

200$ and i get a shit ton of plugins

couple vsts

lots of presets

and a decent sound library

it even comes with the alchemy vst that is fucking loaded with presets

>>75063409
>couple vsts
>lots of presets
>and a decent sound library
>not every daw ever

>>75061284
>poorfag bragging that he got a good deal and wants to be a jew about getting a daw but for some reason won't just pirate it

jfc nobody gives a shit what daw you guys use

>>75063311
no offense intended but you dont have a well developed ear

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>>75063454
>he's mad he has windows and can't get logic

>>75063599
probably because i didn't listen :^)

Seems like the right place to ask.

Do you guys have a interface buying guide? Or a review website for them that is actually good?

>>75063729
what do you need?

i've never seen a buying guide that wasn't just as deceptive as the hoards of ignorant recommendations from people online. whatever you do just stay away from the low end focusrites

search around in your price range and sift through what people say about it on gearslutz

My friend wants a USB based 16 channel. Preferably with usb 3. Its mostly mics. He doesnt need preamps. He doesnt have a price range, since he would be financing it.

>>75063908
>He doesnt need preamps

>>75060099
hows the snare now friend
https://clyp.it/fpa3reog

i'm fearing its all too trebly

>>75063610
nobody is mad about that, and not just in this thread, i mean ever

>>75063964
He wants to get seperate good preamps

why aren't you producing RIGHT NOW, /prod/?

>>75064051
i mean i REALLY hate windows 10 though

>>75064095
yes i get it, i was just poking fun because "usb based 16 channel" gives away that you/your friend are new

i don't know the specifics of dedicated conversion and i doubt you'll find somebody in this thread to give you meaningful advice without waiting a long ass time. go google

>>75064152
i am.

>>75064152
i cut my session short to 4 hours because i feel a bout of crippling depression come on and i'm tired SORRY

>>75064152
I don't know what to do man I'm not feeling motivated enough to start doing serious work on my music and I don't wanna make crap either.
I was just dicking around in the daw. Interesting melodies and all but I can't be assed to get into doing sound design and mixing.

>>75064292
>i'm lazy or just don't want to

>>75064320
I'm tired. I've been /prod/ing non stop for a few months. My ears are still ringing and my social life is kill.

>>75064349
that's the life if you want to git good buddy, sorry

>>75037931
how do I learn how to produce in a week

>>75064370
you dont

>>75064367
ye I love it just burned out atm

>>75064035
>>75064035
>>75064035

>>75064462
>(You)

>>75064487
fucking help with my mix i dont care about (yous) or clyp.it listens

>>75064292
I'm reading a book called Music Habits - The Mental Game of Electronic Music Production right now, I'd recommend it.

my shit so far
every time i come back to prod it gets deader and deader.
https://clyp.it/chrfu4y3

>>75064625
this would be great in a cyber punk shooter

how the fuck was the synth/sound from the beginning of Nights by Frank Ocean made?

https://youtu.be/r4l9bFqgMaQ

>>75064525
>fuggin halp x-((((

https://clyp.it/ll2fymg1
what am i doing?

>>75065240
posting on 4chan it seems

>>75065006
Sounds like a sample with an LFO maybe?

>>75065280
yeah it has to be a sample. I can here the cutting from the chop in there somewhere. Sounds so great

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https://clyp.it/t2uvhsex

made this today and sang on it

>>75064814
was going for something more nin/skinny puppy sounding

>export to -.3
>convert to .mp3 and it goes +.7

>>75065332
Sounds like a guitar and a piano being played at the same time and passed through an LFO or something, but a sample for sure.

In fact that guitar that comes in a few second later sounds the same but not as filtered

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DEAD THREAD
https://clyp.it/klebrbml

>>75066751
>https://clyp.it/klebrbml
the sub bass sucks ass but everything else is fucking phenomenal. Good job

>>75066772
yeah the sub was a bit of an afterthought, thanks, will work on it

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adsrsounds has a tr09 competition! possible to win 9 of them

https://www.adsrsounds.com/giveaways/win-1-of-9-roland-tr09s/?lucky=85452

>>75066944
i wish i was lucky enough to win

>>75065932
You sure you used a hard limiter?

Yeah that happens when you go to mp3 though

>>75039232
I've not seen a great deal. Begunner books seems to focus on playing rather than thinking and advanced books are too far off the deep end

https://clyp.it/dieskgbu

Do you think this works? Or do the different elements just sound out of place? Can you get into the atmosphere?

Why would anyone think there are any decent critics for their own music on 4chins of all places?

sage grows in this dead thread

>>75063835
>whatever you do just stay away from the low end focusrites
What's wrong with the focusrites? I have a Scarlett by focusrite and for £300 I'm pretty impressed with it, seems solid built, sounds good for the money.

>>75069617
where do you think you'd find better critics? the culture here is retarded, but this is a place where people with actual decent taste, and knowledge of music come. of course no group strangers on an internet forum will be great critics, but this place is certainly way beyond Reddit - there they wouldn't even get the things that inspire the music I make. by most places and people my music gets shot down just because of the genre regardless of if it's qualitative content within its proper context.

>>75059086
Probably something like Ozone for mastering
My most used:
>Valhalla Vintage Verb
>N.I Replika XT
>N.I passive EQ

>>75069997
Not the anon you replyed to but...Probably in small dedicated forums. I'm a member of a drum and bass forum that I frequent as /prod/ has turned so shit. Although I don't really make drum and bass or post any music to be critiqued plenty of people do and it's a friendly place, with positive discussion about music production.

>>75069997
Okay, I'll answer earnestly

Muffwigglers, WATMM, idmforums.com ... others

>>75069929
"Good for the money" doesn't mean "sounds good," desu this phrase is deceptive

>dark muddy pres
>zero headroom (makes direct recording annoying af)
>high noise floor
>two above impedes capturing a quiet source cleanly

I hate that they're so commonly recommended man, unless you're only capturing really loud sources or just need something for your monitors they're just a terrible choice

>>75070330

>dark muddy pres
Maybe that's why I think it sounds pretty good

>zero headroom (makes direct recording annoying af)
I've never had this problem although I rarely do direct recording.

>high noise floor
Not really had any problem with this really either

>two above impedes capturing a quiet source cleanly
Yes that'd be a problem. Why are you trying to capture a quiet source?

>I hate that they're so commonly recommended man, unless you're only capturing really loud sources or just need something for your monitors they're just a terrible choice.
It sounds like you mean that they are a bad choice only if you are recording something that is quiet very often. Again something I rarely do.
If anyone thinks they are getting 8 professional top quality pres for £300 then they obviously will be disappointed, but for the typical bedroom musician that's just fucking around at home (90% of musicians I'd imagine) then it's actually good quality.

>>75065362
This p good

>>75067729
yes
i did a mix thats super loud and goes past 0db like the pros, thats cool

>>75070330
does the focusrite noise floor is louder than i would get by plugging to my motherboard (which is really low noise)

>>75070616
>it's still okay because I have no use for this flexibility

This post reads like a shill honestly

>>75066944
>what is this a 909 for ants

>>75070330
Do the guys that complain about focusrite use the phantom power on 2i4 ?

I've always recommended them cause mine works great but I've never tried to record anything like a guitar or piano with it

https://clyp.it/q54h5oa4

Does anyone record from mixer straight into interface and only use a daw as a glorified tape machine?

>>75073508
Started doing that with my soundcraft signature.

I use some basic plugins in the DAW for each channel.

>>75070616
Lol this fucking post

>>75073391
Do you mean pad? Phantom power wouldn't solve any of those issues described unless you're an idiot who just really fucked up

>>75073508
Why would you use both....

>>75068990
are you trying to summon a demon?

>>75073587
I use both because my mixer is an old mackie and isn't really an interface

>>75073680
that makes it sound cool though. if makes you feel that I think i succeeded.
what do you actually think of it? do you think it works within the context or the song, or does it just sound ridiculous?

>>75073808
I mean if you were going for that "idyllic image but there's something really off-putting about it" vibe then yeah you succeeded
I thought the right guitar being out of sync with the left one didn't work at first but now I think it's actually kinda nice that way, I'd try to get it a bit more in sync tho but not too much

it still sounds very unpolished tho, did you record all of this with the same mic? you might need to try a different one, also record the guitar more closely, it sounds too muddy and not in a good way, same with the voice
better record stuff clean, you can always muddy it up in mixing if you need to

the bass coming in is a tad bit too harsh and drowns out the guitar a bit too much imo

but overall that uneasy feeling is nice

>>75073153
>This post reads like a shill honestly
Well not everyone that uses a budget audio interface is using it for recording quiet sounds into. Like I say it's not ever going to be a high end audio interface for £300 with 8ins And 8 outs, but for your regular bedroom/hobby producer I think the quality is fine or even like I said good value.

>>75073587
>Lol this fucking post
See above comment.

If you are wanting professional high quality pre amps for recording then you'll obviously want to buy a expensive high quality professional audio interface not a budget one. What don't you retards understand about this or are you really expecting to get professional quality pre's for a few hundred quid?

I also use a cheap zoom h2n for field recording and found sound, again it sounds really good for the price and in my opinion is great value for money. I'd also recommend it as a portable recorder, but it's obviously not to the standards of a sound devices professional recorder.

>>75073508
>Does anyone record from mixer straight into interface and only use a daw as a glorified tape machine?
kinda. I sometimes do this with ITB effects sent to the 4 aux channels or a combo of external instrument and ITB instruments.
I find it much more fun using a hardware mixer rather than a virtual one with a mouse.

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Ey people anyone wants to join a discord where they can share clips and get criticism? It's really comfy tho theres only one guy who's into prod at the moment but thatll hopefully be fixed.

good thread lads, if anyone is interested u-he just put out a restyling of tyrelln6. it's free and it sounds great

https://www.amazona.de/freeware-synth-tyrell-n6-v3-03/

bless yall

Is Bitwig 2 pirateable yet?

posting so you can jelly my punchy drums
https://clyp.it/guthftkh

https://clyp.it/fpa3reog

is it sounding gud and close to the reference? got rid of all the annoying frequencies i could pick up.

reference:
https://clyp.it/vtykk1to

>>75073920
thanks for the detailed feedback! helps a lot.
it's all recorded through the same shitty laptop mic, it's really hard to get a decent sound out of the thing. but I think I'm coming to a point where I'm'a have to buy something else.

Do you guys have any good tips/resources for music marketing?

>>75066944
fuck i just gave you an entry

>>75066944
kys if you enter this and desire that monstrosity. You'll never make anything good or unique with it, this I vow to the heavens

>>75075546
I would pay people on fivr to do it so you don't have to hold your nose and do it yourself

The best marketing you can possibly do is get in the news somehow. Trust me I'm lying is a book about how an evil marketer truned to manufacturing news stories, feeding them to low bloggers who are starving for content then emailing mid bloggers to say are you covering this? all the way up to huffington level then it can get to the papers and big outlets. His 'ad'
budgets were about 100 -$200

You have to get creative. The only reason agatha christie is famous is because she went missing for a week and it made the news and drew attention to her stories

can someone tell me why Live 9 decided to lose the location of all my samples for a set when they still exist on the hard drive?
it's practically ruined the project because they all had a lot of processing and automation done to them

>>75075864
why is everyone so fucking salty here? Maybe this place wouldn't be such a fucking shit tip if anons like yourself didn't chip in their neggy fucking opinions on everything they dont like.
Maybe when you grow up a bit you'll understand keeping your fucking mouth shut will help you out in life if all you have to say is shit like this.

>>75075960
Do you want to know what makes /prod/ shit? Complainers. 'Prod is dying' etc

Contribute in some way instead of fucking complaining. I think a bit of shit is warrented in this case. Guys need to stop making step sequencer strict drum shit, where everything's militantly in time. Its over, and its probably why they have to give those things away.

Music should sound played and natural

ayo ayo hol up
https://clyp.it/opj3c5hf

too much hi end or naw

>>75076087
..And also the drum sounds on it are laughable.

>>75076087
>hurr durr fun things are bad

>>75076107
Maybe a lil bit overproduced but God damn that is sexy. No hi end problems on my monitoring

>>75076216
have fun but don't expect anyone to want to listen to what you make with something like that device

>>75075938
you need to do collect all and save next time

>>75076087
where is your contribution fuckface?

wait a minute you've just "complained" quoting my post?

>Guys need to stop making step sequencer strict drum shit, where everything's militantly in time. Its over, and its probably why they have to give those things away.
Also are you fucking serious? Roland are making a killing on the boutique range thats why they have a whole fucking range of them and have released another 3 (I think) in the last 2 months.

Again just because you dont like the boutiques or drum machines with militant sequencers plenty of people do...so why do you feel the need to shit on them? just move on and try posting something constructive

>>75076403
>why do you feel the need to shit on them
Because all music made with them is objectively bad. For some reason youngsters think its cool to do it, its not! Is analord your favourite aphex twin album? I didn't think so. Better to get a maschine

>>75076256
>have fun but don't expect anyone to want to listen to what you make with something like that device
Mate once you get that "device in the mix with a bit of EQ no one will no the difference. Techno and house producers have been using 909 samples for years now and people are still listening to it. Please do tell how someone will listen to a track made on a computer using 909 samples but not from the TR-09?

>>75075516
if your room is quiet enough (no fridge/desktop pc noises) you could get away with buying a usb condenser mic for 60-70 bucks if you're on a really tight budget
I wouldn't recommend it in the long run but it'll at least give you some cleaner recording quality for now

definitely shoot for an xlr mic + interface tho if you got a budget of ~300 bucks or more

>>75076472
Do you really want to ape old school techno and house???????? That's what you're fucking going for????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>75076443
>>75076443
>Because all music made with them is objectively bad.For some reason youngsters think its cool to do it, its not!
Thats pretty narrow minded mate. its a drum machine its up to you how creative you want to be in using it.
>Is analord your favourite aphex twin album?
no I prefer SAW 1&2, but thats not the point I was making. I wasnt giving my opinion on what I think of the Boutique range or the TR-09 because it doesn't matter, anon wasnt asking for advice on whether the TR-09 is a good drum machine, so theres no need for my opinion.
> Better to get a maschine
I actually went to buy a drum machine a few years back and ended up coming home with a maschine, I agree

>>75076533
I don't see why not. Both the 909 and the 808 are timeless pieces of hardware.

>>75076443
Maschine is just a MIDI controller.

>>75076087
>Music should sound xyz
no it shouldn't you god damn fuckfag

>>75076533
>Do you really want to ape old school techno and house???????? That's what you're fucking going for????????????????????????????????????????????????
No, again see the post below yours. For the record I've never liked the 909 drum machine and I have no interest in buying it in its analog or even ACB format.

>I don't see why not. Both the 909 and the 808 are timeless pieces of hardware.
I agree. I can't see anything wrong with them myself. A 808 now cost around £3000 so something that sounds like it for £300 is good for someone who wants those styles of sounds

>>75076606
maschine had far better drum sounds for a start.

Old techno and house was disgusting went it started and still is, music for drugged out kids to dance to, its unfathomable its lasted, maybe 'cause its so simple and non musicians can do it and make money, if that's your thing go ahead bro, if you don't have any taste, decency or soul, go ahead

>>75076690
If you want good drum sounds, just buy a sample CD or download them off the internet and skip Maschine.

>>75076717
You can't download drum sounds to that roland shit

>>75076737
No, but you can to your DAW.

>>75076690
>Old techno and house was disgusting went it started and still is, music for drugged out kids to dance to, its unfathomable its lasted
So first you shit on a drum machine because you dont like it Now you're shitting on 2 genres of music because you dont like them. You really are a fucking idiot, like I said before if you dont like something then thats fine, but its not edgy to shout off about your opinions. no one cares. Fucking grow up. Millions of people like house and Techno, just because you dont doesn't make it disgusting.

>>75076768
You can't finger drum on the roland, it doesn't come with gigs of drum sounds like maschine does, you can't add melodies or leave out drums altogether etc etc etc

>>75076810
millions? when was the last time you got home and put on a techno album

>>75076814
You're comparing a drum machine with a DAW/MIDI Controller.

I'm assuming the guy who wanted the TR-09 will use more than the 09 to make his music, unless he's Jeff Mills.

does anyone have any tips for recording on cassette?
I either record too loud and it clips like a motherfucker, or too quiet and the tape hiss is as loud as the music. There seems to be no inbetween, at least that I can find.

>>75076849
You could do everything the roland does on the maschine with ease including the same sounds, and not be a poser / sucker for nostalgia marketing

>>75076830
Its not about me or you. You really dont get it do you?
Besides this is a music production thread. 90% of the posters here are into making electronic music...some will be into Techno or House, for fucking sure, just because you dont like it...blah blah...Get it?

>>75076871
You couldn't use it in a hardware only setup.

You can do what Maschine does with any DAW + midi controller combo. If someone wants to achieve a certain sound, telling them to buy a specific DAW is pretty stupid.

>>75076861
>does anyone have any tips for recording on cassette?
Buy High quality cassettes and a high quality Studio cassette recorder. Tape is pretty noisy thats why the music industry moved on from tapes. Cassettes were always the end format too not the thing that was recorded onto in the studio unless it was 1/4" tape. Cassettes are noisy either embrace that or use digital format
>I either record too loud and it clips like a motherfucker, or too quiet and the tape hiss is as loud as the music. There seems to be no inbetween, at least that I can find.
see above

>>75076920
Not really sure what we're arguing at this point, if you want to get the roland you are a tool in my opinion

>>75076920
for the record there is a step sequencer hardware only function on the maschine

>>75076966
I want the noisiness, that's why I'm using cheap-ass cassettes and a $10 chinese cassette recorder so I can have genuine analog effects for experimental lofi stuff

I just don't know how to master for them without it sounding like shit in a bad way

>>75076967
I'm not the guy who originally wanted the TR-09.

Just replied to you because you seemed pretty clueless recommending someone to buy Maschine when they were after the 909 sound.

>>75077021
Yeah, but then he'd need to also buy the TR-09 since the step sequencer doesn't make any sounds by itself.

>>75077105
mashine prolly comes with those sounds not sure or you could download them free from somewhere

https://clyp.it/wcewepp2
Would anyone like to make a rippity rap for this beat of mine

>>75077030
>I want the noisiness, that's why I'm using cheap-ass cassettes and a $10 chinese cassette recorder so I can have genuine analog effects for experimental lofi stuff
I guess thats what you have then. maybe try going for not a cheap $10 chinese recorder and cheap as cassettes? I have a Tuscan 112 and use high quality cassettes...they are still pretty noisy.

>I just don't know how to master for them without it sounding like shit in a bad way
only suggestion would be to try cleaning the heads and anything that the tape gets contact with, that might help

>>75077148
yes Maschine comes with some decent 808 and 909 samples.

If you want 808 and 909 sounds the Revolution drum machine plugin by wave alchemy is the closest sounding to the real things IMO

>>75077223
I like the noise, I want the noise, I want it to sound cheap

my issue is I can't get the samples loud enough without clipping like a motherfucker
I can always reduce noise with an equalizer and multiband compressor

but I can't fix clipping. It seems I can have it at -.5db in live and have it barely audible, and then slightly bump it up to 0db in live and it'll sound like something out of a youtube poop, I need to know how to prevent that

>>75077326
Does it not have VU meters?

>>75077372
no, this is it
https://www.amazon.com/Jaras-Portable-Personal-Cassette-Recorder/dp/B013JDY7S0

>>75077326
Wouldn't you record in at the highest volume without clipping the tape then just do the same in your daw?

>>75077397
>no, this is it
try fucking around with it until you find the spot before it clips on the tape recorder then. TBh I'd assume a $10 tape recorder is going to be a total bag of shite...$10 is like 2 pints of beer

>>75077500
yeah that's what I do in the daw, it's just so unpredictable. And then it fucks with the dynamic range. I know tapes aren't really known for having the best dynamic range, but some shit will sound fine and then in busy parts it'll shit itself.

I guess I'll just have to fuck around with heavy dynamic range compression and volume.

House my ghetto house music?
https://clyp.it/mi2g3fmp?token=2cec74369fc96c8a21ed56740549f417

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https://clyp.it/uyphs5cr

>>75077564
Could be the heads need a clean, dirty heads will fuck stuff up pretty bad. Maybe try recording to tape quieter and trying to fix in isotope RX or something

>>75077679
>https://clyp.it/uyphs5cr
This is really good well done anon just my kinda thing

>>75077679
shit
>>75077671
"my first Cool Edit Pro"/10
>>75076107
"Uh-oh! I slipped on the dynamic compressor"/10
>>75077158
"Uh-oh! I slipped on dat dynamic compression AGAIN"/10
subtitle: how to turn a gold into cancer in three simple moves
>>75075084
>reference not found
>>75075072
>drums
you mean "razor blades" don't ya
>>75073473
not a bad idea but needs a lot of work
>>75068990
"no"
>>75066751
not bad. what >>75066772 said applies.
>>75065362
>I'll just dynamic compress the shit of it
>>75065240
who knows?
>>75064625
>deader and deader
like your tune

>>75078184
Wow... Really hahahah

>>75079014
Is "dynamic compressor" a term you understand or one you just throw around to sound smart on a Japanese image board?

*HINT* It's probably the latter :^]

>>75079149
HINT: you're a butthurt clueless faggot :^)

>>75079181
Lmao so where's your clyp dude

>>75079014
oh fuck i'm sorry, heres the reference
https://clyp.it/ccmg0ld4

>>75079181
t. Talentless Virgin

>>75079181
>butthurt

You can go back now

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>>75079014
Imagine being this frustrated with yourself

Friendly reminder that EQ, mixing, production, all that shit doesn't matter. People still listen to music from the 30s and 40s recorded on microphones that are the equivalent of what you'd buy at walmart. People literally just pay attention to the catchy lyrics. Stop caring about that crap.

>>75079476
this. ive had my music in a high-budget cable TV show as part of a record deal I landed cus they found my music on soundcloud. I have no mixing or mastering experience. they did it all for me.

>>75079560
how is that possible, please talk more

>>75079746
it's pure luck. i had been making music for years at that point, mostly popular genres like trap music, and i was contacted by the label.

they asked me for the .wav file at a lower volume so they could re-master it. in all honesty i couldnt hear much of a difference but whatever.

the downside is that they wanted me to take down the song, edit it to what they want (and totally butcher the song in the process), and re-upload to their soundcloud account under a new name because they didnt like the name "puke + random japanese text".

all in all be careful what you wish for. the music industry is pretty shit in my limited experience. remember to make music for yourself and not for others. moreover, i hardly made any money off of it too, so the endeavor wasnt really worth it in the first place other than for bragging rights. i can go look up my name and the episode of the show it's on is the first result, haha

>>75079476
>>75079560

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcVQJJoD45w
Bullshit just listen to this song, well written? melody? feeling? The only thing it has is good production. And 'oh tally hey' from 1920 didn't get ten million views last month

>>75080202
>The only thing it has is good production
yeah, Lana Del Rey, A$AP Rocky, and Playboi Carti really came together with their great production to make this song work. not the commissioned instrumental producer and audio engineer or anything.

>>75080269
My point is you have to be good at production if you want to make records, what's yours

>>75037931
https://clyp.it/user/1e0fdfqs

bash it

Are Midi Fighters any good or just gimmicks?

>>75080303
that you dont, because if you are noticed at all, there are people who do that for you.

even professional electronic musicians dont master their music, like Oneohtrix Point Never.

>>75080367
>>75080367
>even professional electronic musicians
they'r just like us!

I was under the impression everyone here is self releasing, not crossing their fingers they'll be noticed by a label with their unmixed shit. So, you just going to do rough lazy mixes and hope then huh

>>75080454
Worked for me. >>75079560 >>75080126

>>75080463
Sounds like you're crushing it, so did you get an advance, any label support at all apart from being signed, have you been signed?

>>75080496
i had a one time deal with a record label who had connections. i had the opportunity to continue down that path, and i decided not to.

why does it matter so much to you if the people here are trying to professionally mix & master their own music?

it's self defeating because it impedes progress to being a good composer, and when you're good enough, the industry will take care of those parts for you anyway. there's almost no reason to do it unless you're *not* trying to be signed by a label and are actively trying to make your music into a business. just do what entertains you and if you're good enough you wont have to work for the attention

>>75080570
I don't mean to offend but I don't think your story is a success or some shining proof its fine to forego mixing / production mastering.

>>75080650
i assume your success story is different?

>>75081038
My story is being unable to listen to all these clyp its because the highs are too harsh, the lows are too boomy and woofy and the arranging's whack.

You have a point I suppose, it depends what you want to do with your music, or where you want to end up.

>>75079093
Well for what it is I really liked it. It's obviously not a masterpiece as it is, but I'm assuming it's a WIP in which case the sounds sound really nice. Would work really well in some dark ambient styled track

>>75081111
is this harsh and boomy
https://clyp.it/guthftkh

any synths that can morph waves like this?

https://youtu.be/ibByF9XPAPg?t=46

>>75081147
No you are definitely right! Thank you though, I'm glad you like it :)

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any fl friends know why my patterns look off color like this?

>>75081340
Do you plan to develop it further or are you like me and make little 4 bar bits and just leave it at that?

>>75081409
I did it at like 3am Yesterday and I have been listening to it throughout my day, I will probably revisit it tonight. I can't think of anything to add just yet, but I am sure I can add at least one new part when I revisit it. I dont normally do songs like this, its usually more guitar/bass/drum oriented. But this particular track could be tweaked to fit the project I'm working on.

>>75081500
Cool. I'd be interested in where you take it.

>>75081594
If you wanna get a feel for some of the other stuff on the project, feel free to check out my clyp.it profile. You could probably hear what fits and what should be fixed.

>>75081675
Thanks. I'll have a look

>>75081713
Much appreciated anon

>>75039425
purchased suite with my tax return earlier this year. I just can't justify using a pirated DAW. The work that goes into that shit is insane.

>>75081675
You need to accept my request to follow you ;)

>>75081759
Good stuff anon. All my /prod/ software is bought. It actually feels good to support company's that make cool stuff

>>75081819
Right back at you. They have the same passion as us and are working hard. I also got the iZotope bundle a couple weeks ago. It was on sale for $300. amazing purchase.

>>75081969
I think ozone for mastering and fabfilter proQ are pretty much all I want software wise now. I have komplete, a toneboosters pack and a few waves plugins which pretty much covers me for everything else.

>>75082057
Word, i hear many good things about fabfilter plugins. How is Komplete? I was gonna but it but it's too expensive. I got composer cloud instead. But now I kind of want Omnisphere. also tip for you

https://www.izotope.com/en/products/master-and-deliver/ozone.html

https://www.izotope.com/en/products/mix/music-production-bundle.html

don't bother with ozone standalone, grab the bundle instead. same price.

>>75082291
>>75082291
Komplete is really good. I wanted to buy the compressors and reverbs but ended up getting the whole package in a sale as it worked out the same price.
Reaktor is probably worth the price alone, so many cool synths and effects in the user base makes it a great buy.
Replika is a really good delay, the RC 24&48 are great reverbs, the compressors are good too. I don't really use the samples much but the pianos and west Africa samples are absolutely fantastic, plus heaps of synths, can't really go wrong. If you wait till its in the sale it's even better

Thanks for the links

>>75081394
Look up how to change colors

>>75081759
I know, I just can't justify the price for a bedroom hobby

>>75082759
Well, that's cool if you don't really care about people getting paid for their work and you're a selfish person with not much regard for others. I'm a sucker for the old adage, treat people as you wish to be treated, and I'd hate for people to steal my work. But do what you want anon-kun