do people actually *enjoy* listening to music like this? I'm

I'm big on autechre's earlier stuff, not so much confield and similar tho

>>74543149
bc it sounds good is why i listen to it

which i know sounds like a canned meme response but when i first heard autechre.... 6 or 7 years ago now? my response was "yes, when i hear this in my ears there's some kind of good feeling here compared to when i wasn't listening"

I read an interview somewhere where they talked about how they used to do graffiti. you know those tags that are very detailed and geometric and it's hard to tell what they say? essentially, according to them, their music is an attempt to recreate that sonically. you just can't tell what it says right now, and that's ok, just keep looking.

>>74543149
it's decent background music. sorta ambient. not nearly as good as aphex or carbon based lifeforms.

i dont really listen to autechre, but some sounds in this album is genuinely enjoyable

pen expers slowly develop and become fully formed at last, its beautiful

parheli triangle is fun, like being slowly eaten alive, but still one keep listening through it

the first track is hella weird, but i just treat it as a very unconventional ambient, that until that notes come in, then its like.. a glimmer of ray of light came down into this rumbling world of unknown machineries down under this

the last track i dont really remember that much, but its great if youre in the mood to go into an adventure in a realm where its total chaos BUT with only one thin, thin thread to hold on to (that faint beat among all that clusterfuck), just close eyes..

>>74543149
I actually enjoy listening to Autechre more than anything, yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Tnjfba4V8&t=6003s

Autechre is amazing but I can't speak for that specific album cause I haven't heard it.
But LP5, Tri Repetae, and Amber are all fantastic albums

>>74543352
carbon based lifeforms is way more ambient than autechre...
Amber was Autechre's ambient album and it's not as ambient as any of CBL's albums

>>74543352
Aphex Twin has never even been close to the level of skills, creativity, vision and experimentation of Autechre, also these days Richard is like a pop figure for the electronic world. While Carbon Based Lifeform are on another type of genre, more on the downtempo not even Idm.

>>74544357
lol I got Tri Repetae confused with Incunabula, it's been a while since I listened to them and for somje reason I thought of the titel Tri Repetae when i was thinking Incunabula's music in my head. they're both great though

>>74543149
>he thought asterisks would make italics but forgot he's not on reddit
KEK

>>74544418
Get a load of this Redditor

>>74544418
most reddit post i've seen all day

>>74544418
o u t e d

>>74543149
Autechre is literally bleeps for people who don't like bleeps

>>74544418
Reddito faggerino

>>74544474
Go back to listen to your bland techno built eternally in 4/4 please.

>>74544418
>>74544429
>>74544440
>>74544461
>>74544487
You guys should seriously consider killing yourselves one day or another.

>>74544493
Only when you'll stop listening to meme music

>>74544520
>thinking meme is an argument

Grow up kiddo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nstY9S9jmnI

>>74543149
>>74543173
>>74544474
It's very rhythmically, sonically intricate music. It's also leagues ahead of what other producers have been making even today.

>>74544563
You thought I wanted to actually argue with an autechre fan? lol

When I first started listening to "new" Autechre (Confield and onward) around 2005 I found it exciting for its experimentation but did not truly enjoy it yet. But over the years they grew on me and I now unironically love it. Maybe it has to do with getting older. I'm 32 now and the blandness and lack of creativity of almost everything that passes that passes as "indie" or "alternative" bores me like nothing else. Similarly, I never liked jazz until a couple of years ago, and I now spend whole days listening to free jazz.

>>74544712
Dude no-one over 18 listens to "indie" or "alternative"

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This is so much better than confield

>>74543352
>>74544357
>>74544594
>>74544393


Autechre is shit.

what the fuck are you hyping up this garbage, youre literally a nusical mongoloid impressed by literal garbage.

>>74544763
dude you use a trip lmao

remember when this aired on the fucking BBC and all the normies freaked out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKDlzswI7Ao

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>>74543149
I see what you mean OP. I don't really enjoy this kind of stuff. If I wanted experimental electronic music id probs go Queerifications And Ruins or You, Again?

Then again I used to think the same about pic related, but now I find myself listening to it a fair bit when I walk my dog. Mind you, and it's probably bias, but I think this kind of stuff has a more relatable context to me, so I think it'd artistically better.

>>74544763
Here comes the average hip hop listener. How is it going with the new Jay z album?

>>74544763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLvFsP1izS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SBJA4NKkQo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAs2duUJpAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFuIB9hsI1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6KhkNpTHfg

listen to these and see if you still feel that way

>>74544797
>implying autechre is not the Kanye West of electronic music
lmao

>>74544843
(you)

Tbh compared to a lot of modern day minimal house and techno Autechre has a lot of different elements at work, personally I was the same a few years ago and didn't really get most of this kind of stuff either. Listened for a while longer and at the moment I'm a big fan of drone and glitch music, for me it's about trying to pick out the different layers of sounds and watch them evolve. This song is more of a dancefloor feel if you're into that tho

https://youtu.be/YpUSwOGkRRw

>>74544520
>>74544763
>>74544797
Don't feed the retarded trolls.

>>74543149
There's literally no one more worth listening than Autechre these days, so yes definitely

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX8NMaGEs6g&t=576s

>>74543149
I tried a few years ago and didn't like it
I went with their earlier stuff and liked it less
My musical tastes have been expanding, and I relistened to it last week
It wasn't great, but I definitely had a better appreciation for what was put into it.

2017 and still thinking Confield is the symbol of Autechre.

Just listen to Exai and Elseq you stupid dorks.

>>74543149
If you don't like Confield, try the following album Draft 7.30. It has a similar cold aesthetic but it's a lot more overtly rhythmic and beat-oriented which makes it an easier listen.
As pleb as it sounds, what got me into Autechre at first was honestly I just thought their music sounded cool. Didn't really overthink it. The alien/sci-fi feeling appealed to my imagination and pretty much every track they do is unique within their catalogue, so their music is a lot of fun to explore.

>>74545010
>compared to a lot of modern day minimal house and techno

Speaking of the obvious, Autechre are probably far away the most advanced electronic musicians we have today, normal techno and house producers are like guitar players who just play power chords on their instruments.

>>74545632
fuck elseq desu, they peaked with oversteps
more composition and less jammy bullshit please, that's what the live shows are for

>>74545691
I guess but it's not necessarily about how advanced and layered their production is, you have the ultra minimal stuff like Basic Channel which is very stripped down but I could still listen to all day desu
https://youtu.be/ZLr52XxTfCc

On the other hand you have the more atmospheric Berlin type stuff which is v dark/atmospheric and dancefloor oriented, Autechre isn't really made for the club lmao
https://youtu.be/BVUamwcRr3Y

>>74543149
Confield is actually enjoyable. It delievers spooky alienesque music and feels like the soundtrack of an avantgarde sci-fi movie.

The problem with Autechre is, today they sound pretty much the same. They are doing the same type of "Autechre music" over and over again, instead of trying something new.

Still, Confield is their best album.

>>74545742
>Autechre isn't really made for the club lmao
oh really
i thought they get played in clubs all over the place
smdh the fuck are those comparisions get out

This is possibly the most glorious and spectacular electronic live set that has been made on the surface of Earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSpS3TFS3P0

If not Autechre, who.

>>74545746
>today they sound pretty much the same
How? You could maybe compare Elseq to Quaristice in execution but even those are pretty different. They change with each release, and even within each release.

>>74545806
Lol what kind of clubs are you going to, I can't imagine people grooving to Exai lmao. Yeah it's probably a generalisation but the vast majority of Autechre ive heard isn't geared towards dancing imo

Its not really comparisons, both those tracks are completely different to ae but it's just there to make a point about how different tracks are focused towards different purposes, I like all that stuff but you're more likely to hear dettmann being played in a club than ryoji ikeda lmao

>>74545837
Meh, they are like the Coen Brothers. Their movies are also always the same, despite having different stories.

>>74545867
i wasn't serious dense boy

>>74545867
>dude what is Incunabula
>dude what is Amber
>dude what is Tri Repetae

Could go on, seems like you haven't listened to them properly, Autechre literally have been originated by club and rave culture.

Just see these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC7LGzCZ-q0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU7-yr70ntw

>>74545822
incredible... 30:00 minute starts the unbelievable

>>74545913
well i guess it's possible but a lot of their stuff i would personally consider too glitchy and off beat for dancing, there are obviously some exceptions but if you know a club that regularly plays stuff like this set let me know and I'll be right down lmao

https://youtu.be/JSpS3TFS3P0

>autechre
>thread is filled with 192kbps youtube videos
Most of these live sets are available in lossless too.

>>74545973
The Warehouse Project club in Manchester.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ig3nHtWJFQ

>>74545913
Most of those tracks are unreleased, of course their live sets will be more targeted towards the club then their albums

I could not get into Autechre at all and I love weird electronic music. They're like actively anti-groovy. Very stilted and unenjoyable IMO.

>>74545973
From 1987 to 1992 they were in the thick of it

>>74546003
mate I live in man, have you seen the recent line ups for whp this year? literally drumcode and tchami, idk about the past but right now it's nothing like autechre lmao

i enjoy it pretty much because the sounds are enjoyable, and its fun listening to someone take glitchy sounds and turn it into a cohesive song.

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>>74546016
>anti-groovy
uncanny

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_EP

>>74546009
>of course their live sets will be more targeted towards the club

Yeah, whatever...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KndBVDbgnmU

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>>74545997
Thanks for the advice.

>>74546042
this is in 2014 where they have built a reputation for playing that style of music and people have come specifically to see that. my point is that i can't imagine some random dj suddenly dropping Autechre tunes in the mix

>>74546086
That's because the average random dj doesn't even listen or know Autechre probably, but he's just incline to diffuse the common top 40 bleeps house and techno. If only there were more conscious musicians, rather than entertainers, to introduce and play them at clubs we would have more people conscious of what is possibly to do with electronic music.

>>74546023
They've sold their soul for money.

>>74546136
or maybe they play music that is appropriate for the context

>>74546016
did you try Tri Repetae and LP5?

>>74546136
lol are you trying to act like ae are some super obscure group that no one knows about. the reason is that kind of music is not suited towards a typical club, if you play stuff that people don't like they won't stay and you'll end up losing your gig

>Autechre
>anything but a meme

>>74546171
Why not dancing to blissful and creative idm instead of simplistic boring 4/4 techno? It's not only about the context, it's also about encouraging people to try different things and being more open on the mindset.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU_A5p04VXc

Tell me one thing why something like this should not be played in any club of the world tonight.

>>74546152
yeah that's true dude, the only one that looks appealing to me is the one with caribou and madlib, even then it's more for the sake of checking out warehouse than anything else

>>74546210
Your mom is a meme

>>74546213
100% this tbqh

There are people on this board who think there are producers better than Autechre, really makes you think.

>>74543149
Im designing a video game right now and honestly this gets me in the exact mindset I need to be in for that.

Its weird I was actually listening to them this morning as I was finishing some of the beginning design phases

>>74546213
>Why not dancing to blissful and creative idm instead of simplistic boring 4/4 techno?
IDM doesn't exist, by the way.

Sean himself asked people not to refer to them as idm artists. Please, stop.

>>74546845
That's because you don't live in countries like Italy and others where there isn't culture on electronic music at all. If you try to say this "IDM" track is basically techno to a dj or local producers they think you're crazy or trying to joke on them. Talking on my own experience.

>>74546016
I thought the same until I got really into techno and then listened to LP5

LP5 was fucking tight

>>74546906
What are they then? Genuinely curious. I usually think of them as somewhere between abstract hip-hop and ambient techno

>>74547153
Techno.

>>74543149
You know people sincerely enjoy much more difficult music than this, right?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tZamFKyPwM

>>74547198
i wouldn't even say they're making techno music anymore. just purely electronic music.

>>74543149
>no one on /mu/ appreciates Chiastic Slide
:(

>>74544339

Good sweet Jesus. And this is what you post for people to get into this music?

The first track sounds like I'm listening to the music filtered down from the party in the apartment across the road at 2AM, while the person in the apartment above me stomps around in Doc Martins and plays a Vuvuzela into a tin bath full of treacle.

I'm with OP. I have no idea how I'd even go about beginning to think 'Today I want to listen to this'. Maybe if i was on LSD and needed some very bland, inoffensive background music.

>>74547287
you wrong b that tish is CRISPY

>>74547441
jesus fuck there's a lot of plebs on this board now.
also
>needing drugs to appreciate music
fuck you

>>74547466
checked

>>74546037
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_EP

>Anti EP was a protest against the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, which would prohibit raves (described as gatherings where music is played), with "music" being defined as a "succession of repetitive beats."[2] Sean Booth explained the band's strategy for the song "Flutter" by saying, "We made as many different bars as we could on the drum machine, then strung them all together."[2]

>The packaging for both compact disc and vinyl variants bore a sticker with a disclaimer about the repetitive nature of the rhythmic elements of "Lost" and "Djarum". The third track, "Flutter", was programmed to have non-repetitive beats and therefore "can be played at both forty five and thirty three revolutions"; but following their disclaimer, it was advised that DJs "have a lawyer and a musicologist present at all times to confirm the non repetitive nature of the music in the event of police harassment." The sticker acted as a seal, which was required to be broken in order to access the media enclosed in the packaging.

What I have learnt from this is that the people who made this album are the kinds of people who are to hipsters what hipsters are to normal people.

>>74547441
this post is disgustingly reddit

>>74547468

If being a pleb means being someone who likes music that make me feel something, or which is interesting in literally any way, or tells some kind of story, or even just sounds like something a human sat down and made rather than what happened when someone accidentallty left a shitty tape recorder leaned against some lab equipment then call me Plebius Maximus.

If liking this sort of thing is what's meant to make me 'Patrician', then the obvious answer is that the patricians don't have a fucking clue and i shouldn't worry about being one.

It's like being expelled from a country club because I told the owner I wasn't going to let him fuck my wife, daughter, faithful hound and me.

I can't be annoyed about not being in something when I know everyone who is is being fucked.

Not even if they happen to like that.

>>74547468

>Not listening to Dark Side of the Moon while high off your tits.

For shame.

Uviol is best track

>>74543149
I just like it. It's nice and I like electronic music, especially IDM and ambient stuff. Jungle is good too but gl trying to find anything really good that isn't some club single with 1 b-side

>>74547441
>>74547601
Quaristice Quandrange.ep is literally the last thing a rookie of electronica in general should listen indeed, it's also b-side material, not even amongst something important by them to consider.

But I advice you that Autechre are far more visionary and capable of telling you a story than many others, sonically their art can reach incredible levels of expressivity, creativity and power that can make you feel unpredictable and unknown sensations. These days they're crafting their art truly like few others, some of their albums are literally a journey into the unknown and the abstract, you just have to have to courage to dive in.

This said by someone who is a musician and music lover in general, I can listen to classical music after switching from something like Autechre.

>>74547601
It's like you're bragging about being a terrible listener.

>>74547499
Reading that fuck instead of listening to the track.

>>74547499
>What I have learnt from this is that the people who made this album are the kinds of people who are to hipsters what hipsters are to normal people.
I think the word you're looking for is "artist".

>>74547441
>Maybe if i was on LSD and needed some very bland, inoffensive background music.
kekkin at the idea of this baby boomer contemptuously putting on autechre while peaking and entering another dimension

>>74547667
>wasting drugs by listening to plebshit
SAD

This style of music is not only very unconventional in many of the timbre it works with, but also has both unconventional structures and is highly dense in nature. There's a lot of aspects to music like this that a new listener would need to get used to due to the way it's made, but like say...Trout Mask Replica or a good Old School Death Metal record, there's more than enough interesting things happening that can keep the listener engaged. But a lot of what is happening to make the music dense/detailed often isn't in the conventional aspects of music either so it becomes that much tougher to fully digest it. Of course, there's the usual things every critic of unconventional takes on music always brings up. The most common criticism is related to something like "I can't feel anything/who would wanna listen to this?", which is not only entirely based on anecdotal subjective experience (eg. someone who gets more emotional enjoyment from Despacito than anything else which neither you or me can take away from them), but usually tends to reveal inexperience within that particular style of music which is completely normal though not a valid complaint in the end.

If you are genuinely interested in this kind of music, I definitely recommend revisiting that album occasionally until you get used to how such sounds feel. Autechre's more recent releases after Confield are even more esoteric than this as well.

I find it interesting that in about the past few months or so, I have seen posts like this for the more extreme metal genres, a post like this for classical/western art music, a post like this on certain forms of jazz, and a post like this now for more experimental kind of electronic music. At first I was kinda frustrated that some recent exodus is bringing in idiots who only appear to be even more ignorant when it comes to music. But I hope that at some point in the long run, having these kind of questions successfully answered will help peeps be knowledgeable.

>>74548149
Autechre isn't really even very difficult though.

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Actual discussion only happens in Autechre generals, keep this in mind. Autechre listeners are the best, keeping this up.

>>74548169
Define difficult music. Autechre is mostly impenetrable for the majority of the average listener, even for electronic music listener.

>>74548169
But for people not used to the style of music at all, it might be. Even equivalents like entry level non-melodic death metal is rough for someone not used to the genre at all.

>>74548169
It's not VERY difficult, but it is difficult for people who doesn't listen to music that is even mildly related to them.

t. Someone who didn't like Ae until I explored more techno (even Tri Repetae sounded disjointed and amelodic to me)

>>74548179
it's because autechre literally has no drama, no media presence, just massive tunes. they just let them speak for themselves.

This thread making me wanna listen to Confield again...

I enjoy it because it's strange and interesting and evokes feelings that other music doesn't. And in terms of the production it sounds great.

I was asking the same questions as OP for years of occasional listens. The album didn't 'click' for me as such like everyone kept saying, it wasn't that immediate, but I've definitely understood it's abstract appeal the longer I've mulled on it.

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>>74547693
Good taste. Uviol is like a soothing oasis in the midst of Confield's weirdness.

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>>74548249
http://www.alicerosenbaum.com/autechre-6.html

Found these rare pictures of them made by an English photographer by the street of Manchester. They're so humble.

>>74548199
I got into Autechre when I was in middle school and never thought it was particularly challenging. I had more trouble with stuff like Morton Subotnick and Edgard Varese.

Basically Autechre almost always retain the structure of electro and hip hop. They very rarely do anything that isn't 4/4. They throw in a bunch of weird stuff on top of that, but the fundamental structure of it is really pretty conventional. You can still tap your foot to it. Stuff that doesn't retain that structure is much harder to get into.

>>74543149

This is unironically and without tryharding probably my favourite electronic album, next to SAW (and some older ambient stuff). But I completely understand that it's tough music to enjoy.

>>74548316
Edgard Varèse is early electronic\musique concrète experimentation, nothing really difficult or complicated about once you know the history development behind. The real challenge is still Stockhausen.

The fact that makes Autechre great is their ineffable musicality. Autechre may render the most harsh noise a tune thing and build with it something perfectly musical or even catchy, structurally and rhythmically composed. It's surely something to consider that I've always loved by them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKFSBN2mRhw

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>>74548287
They are indeed. I actually collect rare photos of ae.

>>74547939
Seconding all of this.

>>74548316
>thinks early Autechre and later Autechre are the same thing
>thinks the primitive mostly spacial based works of Varese and Subotnik would be more challenging when these, like Riley's early stuff is only complicated because of the amount of work it took to do what are the most basic effects today
>thinks time sigs is what makes Autechre a relative challenger for others

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>>74548582
*correct*

>>74548458
>Edgard Varèse is early electronic\musique concrète experimentation
I was thinking more of his earlier orchestral stuff like Arcana.

>The real challenge is still Stockhausen.
I tend to discount people like Stockhausen because they're prioritizing formalism over the experience of actually listening to the music.

>The fact that makes Autechre great is their ineffable musicality.
In my experience you can usually make something that's completely crazy on one level, then throw in one or two elements that are relatively accessible and easy to follow (like a 4/4 drum pattern and bassline) and it will sound much more conventionally "musical". I think it's more that they're putting in some things that make it easier to digest.

>>74548287
chavs

>>74548968
Arcana would be a terrible comparison to make because not only is it not electronic, but it's not similar to Autechre at all besides the repetition concept that it shares with literally anything with a pseudo-minimalist structure.
>I tend to discount people like Stockhausen because they're prioritizing formalism over the experience of actually listening to the music.
Spoken like a true person that couldn't get into Stockhausen. In most of his stuff there's definitely more than just "formalism". You're making the same mistake of ignorance that OP is making but with Stockhausen.
In my experience you can usually make something that's completely crazy on one level, then throw in one or two elements that are relatively accessible and easy to follow (like a 4/4 drum pattern and bassline) and it will sound much more conventionally "musical".
This only makes the music easier to follow, not easier to fully digest because in order to do that the listener will still have to focus on the "completely crazy" parts as well.
> think it's more that they're putting in some things that make it easier to digest.
Or maybe because they still want to make groove centered music because it's still that but a very deconstructed take on that. Note how this whole shtick about rhythm is completely absent from Autechre's more drone centric works like the long tracks on elseqs 2 and 3.

reading threads like this one makes me wanna have still faith on this board

>>74544418
>>he thought asterisks would make italics but forgot he's not on reddit
>KEK
Are you underage? You're reversing cause and effect. Markdown (the language reddit adopted for text formatting) picked its symbols based on existing practices. Pre-Markdown, people were already using asterisks to signify emphasis and underscores for underlining.

bump for ae