/daily/ - Daily music discussion

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/balt/

>very limited amount of improvisation with non-existent amounts of melodic/harmonic development to make up for it
>simplified grooves that take away any of the more subtle/dynamic aspects of jazz drumming (even though many examples in jazz show you can have both)
>large arrangement that weaves in parts like a first year music school kiddie
>a "variety" of different parts that play too close together instead of being more syncopated, thus not being taken full advantage of to create dance rhythms nor actual depth/complexity

It's literally outdated (even at the time), cliche dance music with no depth. The 60s equivalent of The Epic but not as bloated. Note how this album wasn't even that highly acclaimed when it came out; Downbeat gave it a 4/5 when just about any relatively decent record can nab a 5/5 from them. The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady didn't get praise until later by people who hadn't listened to more than a handful of jazz records and were too casual to fully digest the more intricate improvisations in real jazz music but also couldn't handle the depth in compositions of classical music.

>>74325142
New copypasta confirmed.

Is it worth it to listen to music if I can't click on some stars to catalog it?

>>74325108
rym, for trolling qwerty100

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06jQ9krG5T8

>>74325142
>very limited amount of improvisation with non-existent amounts of melodic/harmonic development to make up for it
haha 9/10 best new copypasta

>>74325247
"music only real when rated"
-christopher mccandles

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>>74325567

I listen mostly to Jazz now. What should I check out aside from the big names ofc

>>74325853
John Handy Live at the Monterey Jazz Festival

>>74325853
the small names
>>74325386
serves u RIGHT

Who likes Gordon lightfoot here?

>All these /daily/ hipsters getting BTFO by based qwerty

>>74325984
please but your trip back on s

>>74325984
t. qwerty

>>74325853
What do you like tho?

>>74326027
Well technically I don't use a trip but I understand what you mean

>>74325386
>>74325984
comment him in my name: "hey how do you like the new arcade fire? it sounds like abba and shits on millennials, who hate it."

>>74326034
It doesn't really matter I'm open to everything. My top stuff would be Bitches Brew, Kind Of Blue, The shape of jazz to come and Blues and Roots. I much prefer 60's Jazz over anything else that I heard so far.

>>74325159
>>74325534
>can't refute the facts
>i-it must be a copypasta
Lmao who knew /daily/ actually isn't knowledgeable at all about music?
>>74325853
Certainly not Charles Mingus. Check out like David Binney or Henry Threadgill.

>>74326240
dont u have an rym tho :0

>>74326266
Somewhat all over. These are two of my new favs:
Larry Young - Unity
Joe Henderson - The Elements

>>74326324
I'm not trying to refute anything tho.
I've literally seen that exact same post posted here before.

>>74326324
I already love Mingus friend but thanks I will check them out, cheers
>>74326345
Yeah I'm pretty basic.
Looks sweet, love Jazz funk. Cheers for that.

>Kanye West - College Dropout
It's alright, but needs a lot more polish. 6/10

>Kanye West - Late Registration
It's like the previous album but mich better, with very good composition on the jazzier tracks. Feels a lot more emotional and interesting overall.
7/10

>Kanye West - Graduation
Really simple and straightforward, with tracks that hardly evolve or go anywhere. I Wonder might be my favorite Kanye song so far, though.
4/10

>Swans - Soundtracks for the Blind
This album is devastating, in a very beautiful way. There are some unnecessary bits here and there, but otherwise it's absolutely breathtaking in one way or another. I live for moments like nearly falling asleep from The Beautiful Days and being woken up by the fucking brilliant dance track Volcano.
8/10

>Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band - Trout Mask Replica
Really interesting and wonderfully hysterical. It gets old after a while, and Captain Beefheart's voice is mixed way too loud, but there's some really, really cool guitarwork and arrangements here.
7/10

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Y'all niggas need some communism.

>>74325142
this
Usually when you see this album on someone's chart it's the only jazz album to be found, maybe accompanied by one other

>>74326324
T H R E A D G I L L

Can you stop invading these threads? No one cares anymore

>>74326530
Maybe because people rather listen to the good shit than 1000 typical jazz albums retard.

>>74325853
Mccoy Tyner- The Real Mccoy is a good album I heard recently

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>>74326595
>Admits to not knowing much about jazz because there's other "good shit"
>Insists a mediocre album is great
>continues to argue with no knowledge of the subject area

>>74326324
Is this generalizations guy?

wtf I hate Mingus now

>>74326708
>Admits to not knowing much about jazz because there's other "good shit"
Never said that. Don't even like jazz.

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>>74326616
Seconding this, the piano on it gives me life

>>74326266
I'm painfully new to jazz but I like this
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/flaga/flaga__the_book_of_angels_volume_27/
And /daily/ approves of this
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/komeda-quintet/astigmatic/

>>74326742
>doesn't like jazz
>likes Mingus
Exactly. Mingus is for ADHD kiddies like you.

>>74326616
Yeah I know Mccoy, he's cool
>>74326757
Looks interesting, thanks for that.

>>74325142
Agree 100%. One recording of Relaxing at Camarillo has more jazz in it than this entire album.

>>74326793
does ADHD just mean "good" nowadays? If you want something truly "ADHD" listen to albums like Naked City or Meditations, you'd be surprised by how patient Black Saint is if you actually sat down and listened to it

>>74326793
Mingus is actually good.
I don't fuck anything else in the Jazz world.

>>74326875
to be expected from a mingus fan

>>74326846
>thinks ADHD just means energetic
Nope, it means that the music is actually very simple and often brings in other bits just for the sake of gimmick rather than making actually interesting music one has to pay attention to. Meditations is very well played by everyone on it with a lot of intricacy for a listener to dissect. Mingus is garbage.
>>74326875
Spoken like a true adhd kid who can't focus on the more interesting aspects of music. Mingus is watered down composition for the kids who can't follow crazy jazz improvisations nor layered art music composition.

>>74325142
all i hear is "it's bad because it's accessible"

>>74327158
Then you're retarded because A Love Supreme is also very accessible and isn't at fault at all with any of those criticisms.

>>74327196
i don't remember ever listening to either of those desu
tbf i also hear "waah tokenism" but i don't buy into that for a second
all in all you're a cunt m8

>>74327317
>i don't remember ever listening to either of those desu
>participates in a discussion about music he has no idea about
Don't waste yours and my time then.

>>74327365
but i made it about you instead of the album
btw how are you anon?

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Anything similar to this?

I've been really digging this album (and the rest of Razika's discography) lately.

Album playlist: På vei hjem: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm11F6uaOTBdD2Xz9GV1PFk56yAaWwpqV

>>74327119
what is your definition of "gimmick" and what examples in the music are there of any "gimmicks"?

>>74327498
a new element i don't like

>>74327498
Not that Anon but I'm just taking a shot in the dark

Tremolo picking I guess? Idk

>>74327528
>>74327525
exactly, a gimmick would be something that could be taken away and the music would be improved, whereas that is not the case with The Black Saint, the closest thing to a "gimmick" in that album are the flamenco sections, but those are important to the musical progression and story behind the music.

>>74327404
Exactly, thus losing any crutch in the argument.
>>74327498
Gimmicks are novelty values that might make a first time listener go WHOA! but then there's really no depth to it. An example being a lot of TBSATS's melodies which weren't super common in jazz music, but a closer look shows that it's pretty simple two to four measure long phrases that get repeated with non-existent variation. Another example is metal band Arcturus' keyboard sections that try to be all classical music style, but don't have the harmonic depth of classical as its stuck to popular music progressions. Not to mention that in order to fit those keyboard parts, the band simplifies its riffs greatly to do so, giving the listener a "worst of both worlds" feel in terms of metal/classical music.

>>74327649
>TBSATS's melodies which weren't super common in jazz music, but a closer look shows that it's pretty simple two to four measure long phrases that get repeated with non-existent variation
There is a good bit of variation in TBS, and songs like "So What" by Davis or "Watermelon Man" by Herbie Hancock repeat phrases all the time with no variation at all, are you saying these songs are bad as well? because if so then I take it back but I think you might have a double standard here, many fucking classical songs repeat 2-4 measure phrases so I don't know where you're coming from.

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paging darklands and flyingicewiz

could y'all post the cover art you used for me? makes it easier for me to update the tourney image, thanks friends

>>74327649
ah not in the best mood i see
i'm not arguing wtf did you really take the "discussion" part in the op literally? silly man

>>74327716
>and songs like "So What" by Davis or "Watermelon Man" by Herbie Hancock repeat phrases all the time with no variation at all, are you saying these songs are bad as well?
Are you mentally retarded? They both have various improvisations on top of them that are the focus of progression. This is not something you hear a lot in TBSATSL which has far more limited improvisations compared to those two pieces since everyone HAD to adhere to basic bitch progression.

>>74327746
There are improvisations over top of nearly the entirety of Track A, do you even have ears? Or are the improvised parts so well done you think they're written out?

>>74327743
Oh no, I am doing fantastic otherwise. Watching /daily/ struggle to come up good counterpoints for one of if not its most universally loved record is kinda satisfying. Though it's getting a bit too easy now. I was expecting the posters here to be more knowledgeable.

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>>74327781
Serious: do you look at all like this guy?

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I hope /mu/ knew more about this guys.

Female voice, piano based duo. Chamber and proggy influence.

Full album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGgXJ08FQ7k&list=PLHYyiAjb2SjrrnClM23ksqg3m5ZmxKfVS

>>74327781
>one of if not its most universally loved record
I wasn't wild about it

>>74327764
And? Didn't I mention how limited in playing those improvisations were? Have YOU listened to Track A? Because the horn is almost always following all the other instruments, then does a tiny occasional rock music guitar fill tier improv bits with a lot of its phrases also repeated (eg. that sorta "raise" bit that happens like twice within a two minute period on the track.)

/daily/ confirmed to be full of idiots who haven't listened to the album they themselves apparently love so much.
>>74327814
>implying I like weebshite as much as /daily/shitters do
I am not the one who raves about overrated garbage like Fishmans and Daikanjyo

>>74327863
What's wrong with "following the instruments?"
also
> tiny occasional rock music guitar fill tier improv bits
what the fuck does that even mean

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>>74325142

>>74327863
put your trip back on yellowjelly

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>>74327863
Dunno if you could say arguing with one or two anons btfo's daily but what jazz would you reccomend to peens like me

>>74327952
Avant's no conservatory geek with a superiority complex (he only has the superiority complex)

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>>74325097
Thanks for showing me this album anon! It was a great audition

>>74327924
There's no point to improvisation if one is following the instruments that closely . That shows that the musicians have no voice of their own, or are very amateur in terms of skill at their instrument. At that point jazz becomes no different from pop music because pop melodies also rarely if at all deviate from the limited harmonic progression they are allotted.
>>74327942
Sure, there's always that subjective aspect, but that has no place in discussion, just one's own personal experience.
>>74327952
Autist Math is the epitome of what I am railing against since he loves gimmicks.
>>74327986
Jimmy Giuffre - Freefall
Sonny Sharrock - Ask The Ages
Evan Parker - Strings With Evan Parker
Stan Kenton - City Of Glass

How do you enjoy music /daily/?

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/Clavietika/ways-to-enjoy-music-ranked/

(Reminder that Clavietika is still pathetic, with or without the existence of this list)

>>74327822
Hey this is really good
And the girl is a cutie

>>74328217
But I don't think going out of the harmonic progression they were alotted was the point of the album don't you think? You don't really listen to Black saint for its improvisation rather its variety of colorful instruments, atmosphere, melodies, passionate playing and detailed arrangements.

>>74328173
>>74328217
But avant is female.

>>74328217
>Stan Kenton - City Of Glass
Good rec anon. I just listen to the 10" LP few days ago.

>>74327649
I think you're partially criticizing the album because it isn't what you want it to be. I'd say there's nothing inherently bad about simplicity, it's even remarkable to get your point across on an album as clearly as records like The Black Saint or A Love Supreme do. The "gimmicks" and lack of emphasis in usually rather common elements of jazz like improvisation (of which the album isn't actually devoid of) are in part because of he decides to draw from other influences and overall, is not trying to make a jazz album. It's a term that he didn't really use in his music. I also find it ridiculous that you decide to allude to getting "only a 4/5" from Downbeat and painting it as a low score but not even citing a review. Well, so did Threadgill's latest album which I guess I can safely dismiss since they're indisputable.
>>74327196
>A Love Supreme is also very accessible and isn't at fault at all with any of those criticisms.
Except the criticism you make of everybody enjoying TBS because it's accessible and they don't actually know what they're listening to, as if A Love Supreme doesn't surpass it in popularity and acclaim, but while also ignoring all the praise Mingus has gotten beyond Anonymous people on an imageboard.

>>74328236
where do drugs fall on this list

>>74328260
>variety of colorful instruments
Not even the most colorful arrangement in jazz, forget other music with even more colorful set of sounds
>atmosphere
What atmosphere? Elaborate.
>melodies
As if its got sophisticated melodic work. psshhh nigga listen to some Bach or something
>passionate
Oh god, you're that guy. You still haven't described what this even means, what makes it more passionate than other guys, etc.

Damn, i should've known you were a /daily/ shitter.
>>74328265
Who cares. Autist Math is still Autist Math.

Could something like this be the next big thing in musics?

http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/598388698db86-you-have-been-shalowned-ddddddd.php

>>74328315
>Who cares. Autist Math is still Autist Math.
ohh you're _that_ idiot

don't really to listen to metal or punk or whatever but I'd like to hear more stuff like this if anyone has any recs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoRVvLTXCkA

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>>74328355
holy fuck I messed up the copy paste on a whole new level just a sec

>Ataraxia - The Unexplained

I love this, but only because I have a mega soft spot for old synth music. Just as good or maybe better than Plantasia.

>Wrath of the Weak - Solace

Yeah I don’t need this shit. Maybe I’ll listen to the whole thing next time I’m angsting.

DIDN’T FINISH/10

COMET ADVANCES


ROUND TWO BEGINS

Awaiting recs from Transgod, Rodriguez, Mark And, and Comet. same rules as the first time. Must provide a one or more sentence explanation as to why I would enjoy your rec, preferably taking into account highly rated album on my RYM page. (~bulinger96)

>>74328392
also i forgot the trip. i'm on a roll today

>>74328293
>I think you're partially criticizing the album because it isn't what you want it to be.
Not true. As my post shows, I actually like the music he took influences from. Mingus' take on all those forms is wanting.
>I'd say there's nothing inherently bad about simplicity, it's even remarkable to get your point across
This would be cool as shit if he was for example, doing the kind of negative space shenanigans Miles does. Or if he had a sparse arrangement like John Coltrane or Jimmy Giuffre on some of their records. But nope, idk how someone can do so little with so much.
>I also find it ridiculous that you decide to allude to getting "only a 4/5" from Downbeat
It's there to ward off the "b-but it was heavily praised when it came out!" shit.
>Except the criticism you make of everybody enjoying TBS because it's accessible and they don't actually know what they're listening to
Yes, but that alludes more to why it in particular is considered so popular. Nothing about accessibility being automatically bad. That's just reaching at that point.

>>74328392
Charles Mingus - The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady

>>74328315
>atmosphere
Many sections provoke heavy imagery, such as the reverb tinged beginning of Track DEF, the latin dance sections, the first half of Track B, and the muted trumpet solo in Track B as well.
>passionate playing
Sorry if this sounds dumb but I've never heard a big band arrangement fucking scream like I have in Black Saint, Mingus knew the exact time when things should slow, when they should speed up, and the dynamics of the instruments in said spots, better than most of his contemporaries. And with that a lot of fast, heavy climaxes become orgasmic and satisfying near the end of the album.
>just because it isn't as sophisticated as one guy means its bad
are you kidding me I'd argue that people like David Portner have made better melodies than some classical composers, despite not having any """sophisticated""" music experience. Sophisticated does not mean better.
>instruments
Ill be honest I should've said that I think the instruments sound very nice and fit the album. Sorry for the confusion "colorful" isn't what I meant.

>>74328430
I have a question, what do you think of Mingus' other works? Because Ah Um got a 5/5 upon release

Ray Brown >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mingus

>>74328495
>the latin dance sections,
This is based on shallow perspective as a person unfamiliar with latin music or latin culture wouldn't get the same experience. Subjective.
>Sorry if this sounds dumb
It does. Subjective.
>are you kidding me I'd argue that people like David Portner have made better melodies than some classical composers, despite not having any """sophisticated""" music experience. Sophisticated does not mean better.
>Avey Tare
>better than classical composers
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>I think
Lmao

>>74328532
Ah Um is quite possibly his best work, that's for sure even if it's a bit too bluesy at times. I don't personally care about Downbeat, like I said I only say that for the people who think it was amazingly acclaimed GOATest of GOATs back then.

>>74328430
>Not true. As my post shows, I actually like the music he took influences from. Mingus'
It's not about the influences, but about partially wanting it to be a Jazz album and judging it from not adhering to what might make a jazz album great, expecting improvisation and big focus on drums and whatnot, "as many other examples in jazz have shown".
>But nope, idk how someone can do so little with so much.
What do you think the music is about? I'd say the theme it presents is carried out pretty well and with a lot of thought of how to present it.
>It's there to ward off the "b-but it was heavily praised when it came out!" shit.
It's just two sides of the same coin, if you think them appealing to critics doesn't prove it's good, you shouldn't try to make your point of it being panned by critics proving it's not so great. Then again try showing people a 4/5 is bad even.

>>74328584
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

LOOOOL

>>74328584
Another serious question, do you believe music is objective.

And you do know I don't mean Mozart or Beethoven when I talk about David Portner, I mean that I'm sure there were many classical composers that didn't have melodies as compelling (to me, at least) as his

>>74328620
By best work, do you mean relatively or do you think it's genuinely good?

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>>74328666
hail satan

I actually kind of agree with anon. Never got the best-ever feeling a lot of people have for it for the same reasons he pointed out, nor have I heard a defense of its greatness that felt satisfying.

Which just means I chalk that up to not getting it, of course. Other people aren't wrong for feeling a connection to something you don't.

>>74325097
anyone ever heard of this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=477R4ORMZaI

the soundcloud link has higher quality audio. weird blend of rap and noise stuff

>>74328763
listem to lum instead

Metal lord here
Name your favorite metal album and I'll judge your level of nu-maleness out of a scale of 100, with 100 being the eternal nu-male and 0 being the manliest man alive

>>74328817
t. nu-male

>>74328817
Dopesmoker and LZ 1

>>74328817
Black One, but I haven't listened to much metal, if drone metal doesn't count than I guess either The Satanist or Kill Em All

LARGE meme ITT

>>74328648
>It's not about the influences, but about partially wanting it to be a Jazz album and judging it from not adhering to what might make a jazz album great, expecting improvisation and big focus on drums and whatnot, "as many other examples in jazz have shown".
That's great and all. But then what's left? The even more boring, straightforward approach to composition? Simplistic dance grooves that are non-engaging even compared to a generic minimal techno album?
>What do you think the music is about?
This doesn't really matter, and the fact that you brought it up shows how little you know about music or really art in general.
>you shouldn't try to make your point of it being panned by critics proving it's not so great
It's there to show that even if it was a valid point, it doesn't work. Getting a downbeat 5/5 is pretty easy, too especially back then.
>>74328666
I think music's both subjective and objective depending on what one looks at. Like for example not me nor you can take away from the emotional ecstasy a kid who requested Justin Beiber for his Make-A-Wish gets when he listens to Justin Beiber. But when discussing with other people, a lot of one's own personal experiences go out the window, and what matters is what's there musically.

>And you do know I don't mean Mozart or Beethoven when I talk about David Portner, I mean that I'm sure there were many classical composers that didn't have melodies as compelling (to me, at least) as his
Oh, in that case, for sure. Dude's miles better than garbage like Julius Eastman for example.
>>74328685
Both. I am not the biggest fan of it personally myself, but it definitely has great qualities to it.

>>74328839
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>>74328844
80

avey tare is the most talented pop songwriter alive today

people downplay him nowadays because anco aren't cool anymore, but his work will stand the test of time and be loved for the forseeable future

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>>74328817

>>74329009
AnCo was never cool.

>>74328817
>>74328817
>having a favorite album
Either Streetcleaner or Snakes for the Divine.

>>74328817
ITAOTS

>>74328817
none so vile

>>74328817
Dead - Musical Abortions

>>74329009
>who is Max Martin

>>74329029
57
>>74329056
78
>>74329062
46

>>74329086
yeah, who is he?

>>74329112
Rate me bitchboy.

>>74329112
>gives the least riffy stuff the higher score
nu male detected

>>74329159
Higher score = more nu-male
Read the rules

>>74328817
Eyehategod - Dopesick

>>74328817
Teitanblood - Seven Chalices

Good thread good thread

>>74328817
https://afterburner-dm.bandcamp.com/album/tomb-of-kings

>>74328817
Vektor - Terminal Redux

>>74329235
48
>>74329246
37
>>74329267
59
>>74329275
72

>>74328817
Catacomb

>>74329309
>>74329112
>he hasn't listened to Dead's Musical Abortions
What a metal pleb

>>74328817
Blue blood by X-Japan

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Is $120 a good price for a technics sl-q200 with a audiotechnica cartridge?

>>74329327
39
>>74329071
34
>>74329349
28

>>74329350
Nah, just steal one imo.

>>74329395
>nip metal gets the lowest score yet
opinions discarded

>>74328817
Ominous Doctrines of the Perpetual Mystical Macrocosm

>>74325142
Do you just paste this every time the album is mentioned?

>>74328917
>But then what's left?
There's a lot of things I like from the album. You claim you don't like how sometimes the album constantly repeats phrases and motifs, and makes it stale, but these are presented every time slightly with more distress, to represent anguish in the face of equality that doesn't change. I love how it all comes crumbling down little by little as the record goes on. And even if A/B/C do feel a bit stale to you because of the repetition, The B side is let loose a lot more and brings many new ideas. The elements aren't added just because, but rather have a meaning behind it, like the Spanish Guitar which resembles El Greco and the oppression and death that is in his paintings, which otherwise you might just discard as a dancey flamenco part. If you don't care about what the album wants to say to you, you will of course probably not like it too much. Nevertheless I also think it has some merits, like how Mingus arranged the horns to make it so that sometimes it's like more than two saxes playing at a time. The apparent lack of improvisation I think is in fact due to the uncommon approach of musicians improvising a lot on the music with overdubbing, so that in the end it does incorporate so well in the music that to a lot of people the record feels composed, even though Mingus gave freedom to his players for improvisation, and also because a lot of the time the band improvises but as a whole and in the same direction.

>>74328817
i set my friends on fire - you cant spell slaughter without laughter

>>74328817
Incantation's Onward to Golgotha

>>74329396
From where?

>>74328817
To Mega Therion

>>74328461
>Must provide a one or more sentence explanation as to why I would enjoy your rec, preferably taking into account highly rated album on my RYM page

also i've heard that one

>>74329414
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>>74329455
30

>>74329246
>>74329414
>>74329455
these are good

>>74329433
I have a few in my garage.

>>74327119
>>74326793
>>74326708
>>74326530
>>74326324
>>74325142
I like the album because it sounds good to my ears.

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>>74329489
Are you suggesting I steal from you?

>>74329510
Lmao nerd.

>>74329510
p daring imo

>>74329426
>but these are presented every time slightly with more distress
What? The main phrase of Track A for example is played straight every time.
>to represent anguish in the face of equality that doesn't change
>which resembles El Greco and the oppression and death that is in his paintings
This is pretentious drivel that requires far more than the album itself to have full context for. And again, none of this shit matters. Ray Bradbury wrote F451 just because he really hated TVs, but it is now considered a classic for far more than what he personally intended.
>The apparent lack of improvisation I think is in fact due to the uncommon approach of musicians improvising a lot on the music with overdubbing
But one can hear the improvisations, they just aren't that great.

>>74329527
Ye. I don't mind.

>>74329559
Okay thanks

>>74329510
wow you fucking idiot lmao

>>74329592
Np bud.>>74329596

>>74328817
Dying fetus - killing on adrenaline

>>74329395
>X-Japan
>28

>>74329464
Oh, my bad.

Check out:

Twine - Recorder

it's ambient and glitchy like a lot of stuff you like

itt: i dont like thing and you like it wow you dummies

>>74329552
>This is pretentious drivel that requires far more than the album itself to have full context for
It's closer to being just program music as opposed to absolute music. It isn't that hidden in the music, you can pretty much hear a whole lot of expression with the alternation of happy and sad themes. Ultimately it's just trying to say something through music instead of through words, just like Coltrane reciting his poem on the final part of A Love Supreme. I'd say they do it quite well, with how a lot of people are able to connect to these records emotionally, so there's your reason as to why it's so praised.
>>74329559
Then it's not really stealing.

>>74329716
>you can pretty much hear a whole lot of expression with the alternation of happy and sad themes
That's not an objective quality it has though. What sounds happy to one person may sound sad to another.

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>>74329464
wasnt me
with how much you like artsy poppy stuff i'm a bit surprised you haven't listened to any of her albums. it's got massively lush production despite being a bit dated (well you like vapor so that should be the least of issues), the second half is fairly experimental and gloomy with every track having a different kinda gimmick

>>74329473
you forgot >>74329431

>>74329695
ITT: big meme

>>74329716
What are you, a cop? Smh.

>>74329732
>That's not an objective quality it has. What sounds happy to one person may sound sad to another.
Just as what sounds good to some might be shit for others, but a lot of people end up agreeing Bach is great. A bit more conflicting in regards to emotions yes, (and I wouldn't want to claim what I say sounds happy is evidently what most people might agree with just as they agree about Bach), but I think in the way it's presented in the record there's some degree of contrast at the very least between those sounds, but of course there's nothing objective.

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>>74329765
I believe this transgod because they gave a better sentence.

>>74329813
Mixtapes when

A word or phrase from the post above yours is the name of your band. What genre are you? Bonus points for titling your debut album.

>>74329732
But the black saint was never really an "objective" type of album. everything is displayed through subjectively good playing, subjectively good melodies, a subjective amount of passion, and subjective emotions. Thats why its either loved or hated, its an album of stories and emotion (and good melodies, but again, thats subjective) that are up to you to decide whether its good or not, like >>74328293 said, a lot of your criticism doesnt work when you talk about this album.

After all of this I can appreciate just how polarizing it is, because it gets people talking, unlike many albums posted here.

>>74329919
>>74329923
band name: Passion, and Subjective Emotions
genre: post-rock
first album: Loved or Hated

>>74329883
that's shitty reasoning
intelligent things can be stated as inarticulate drivel; doesn't make the sentiment less intelligent
ya dingus

>>74328817
Gorguts- Erosion of Sanity

>>74328351
a-anyone? ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am7Za-5xl7k

>>74330004
ya mingus

>>74330373
sorry anon, you caught daily at a weird time

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/cows/cunning_stunts/

try this one out

>>74329881
Sure, but it's like the record goes far enough to signify which one's what. I am pretty sure it was too busy being a dance able to have that level of depth.
>>74329923
Cool, then it doesn't really have a lot of real lasting value for everyone, then, does it?

>>74329883
Your loss, then. Those 5s of yours do say that you like ambient, glitchy stuff, some sorta field recording type stuff, and some form of droney stuff.

>>74330708
It has value for me and many others

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>Woven Hand - s/t
This is pleasant enough gothic rock, but it doesn't quite nail the textures and atmosphere of the follow-up, slightly too same-y and just not exciting enough.

>JLin - Black Origami
This is disgusting and I fucking love it. Perfect folow-up album with even more outrageous beats while still staying pretty true to the footwork roots. IMO there's no one to rival JLin in footwork, the beats are just so fucking fun.

>Ann Peebles - I Can't Stand the Rain
Some good songs, but the lyrics are mediocre and her voice is kind of lacklustre at some points. Even though it can sometimes get really great.

>Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
This starts out fantastic. Classic 90s east-coast beats and even some more minimal beats than I'd expect. It all goes downhill from 'Rock N Roll' though, from where he tries to incorporate some kind of rock-y feel into the beats and it just doesn't work. One of the songs even samples RHCP and it just doesn't fit.

>Thelonious Monk - Straight, No Chaser
Fantastic compositions. Japanese Folksong is the best Monk song I've ever heard, the tenor sax beautifully accentuating Monk's piano. The only thing holding this back from being a 4 is that I feel in a lot of the songs the bass is just too quiet. It works really well for the drums to be subdued and subtle, but the bass should be more pronounced imo. Especially because there's quite some parts where only the bass and the drums are playing and it's just too difficult to even hear.

>>74331061
And here's a link to Japanese Folk Song, because everyone needs to hear it, but y'all are lazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD1p95nyeEc

>>74331061
townes and laura nyro are two big favs of mine, i hope you like em

>>74331154
I'll try to fit them in tonight :) I like other Townes I've heard, no idea what to expect with Laura Nyro though.

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guys, i'm about to be interviewed right now on UIC radio! figured you guys might want to see it

facebook com/yamirmusic/videos/1961984944079110/

>>74331173
her albums covers and genre tags on rym might mislead you to think she's maybe just some typical old slower slightly melodramatic 60s soul artist, but she is incredibly unique and progressive for her time. it's sort of hard to exactly define her but i guess i'd call it some sort of artsy pop mixed with those more antique influences, but even after listening to her for years i'm still not confident about any categroization. also very vibrant and energetic and full sounding. and of course a very very talented songwriter

>>74331336
>it's sort of hard to exactly define her
Progressive Brill Building.

>>74331289
>cumblogs

>>74331358
that definitely works but then i listen to some brill building and she sounds so detached from it all.
not disputing your description btw, i just love to talk about how much of an anomoly she was.

>>74330708
>Cool, then it doesn't really have a lot of real lasting value for everyone, then, does it?
Are you saying it doesnt have any lasting value, or are you saying that not everyone will find something in it down the road? If the former, then that isn't true, if the latter, then of course. Not every piece of art appeals to everyone. Its subjective, and in regards to the album, I think we should agree to disagree about the quality, because it IS subjective.

I will check out Henry Threadgill though, thank you for the recommendation.

>>74328392
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/_3_33/draft/
ya need some more post-minimalism in yr life

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>>74331901
>post-minimalism
i see these words, i instantly start to listen to it

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>>74331901
rod
rec me something nice and good thats streaming pls

>>74332072
https://ajaxspearmanofthesun.bandcamp.com/album/water

>>74331901
rod i need a rec for round too

>>74332187
i know >>74331901 is my rec

>>74332231
Oh oops it didn't (you) for some reason.

i'm not quite satisfied by your sentence though

>>74332255
there's a portion of track 3 that briefly sounds like the nostalgia critic opening.

>>74332283
eh. you're rod its probably magic

>>74332345
nah this one's more risky. only first found the artist a few days back and am still digesting the record. as a minimalism pleb, i like it.

>>74325097

If you like "weird, dark, creepy", then I highly recommend that you look up Lumb's Sister, by Nurse With Wound.

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>you will never have a post-minimalist qt gf
time to die

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who /csh/ here?

>>74329909
Idk

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>>74332421
>you will never have a qt gf
time to die

>>74332566
NO

>>74332566
me

>>74332634
dude I am FUCKING feeling this rn

>>74332566
everyoen with coolness
>>74332634
loser
>>74332747
why

more like car seat headass

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holy shit, I finally have an 8. It's been a while

I have a small window of respite from essay writing, so shoot if you want thoughts

>>74333070
bad

>>74333211
that album is good
you heard country teasers before?

>>74333386
Yeah, The Empire Strikes Back is a good album

>>74328392
propellerheads - decksanddrumsandrockandroll

Just listened to it today and it seems to fit into your bleepy kinda taste (avalanches, 4.5 for Secret Diary)

>>74329112
You must be new to metal

>Kiss
>of fuck nice patrician taste in metal -10 for you

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how the FUCK do people use a 100 point scale? it literally makes no sense.

>>74335623
EXUX3

>>74335623
you know how some people do it like 9.1, 8.4, etc.?
Imagine that...
...
...
...
...without the decimal...

>>74335641
AMUMA

>>74335651
Do you grasp the concept of a 100 point scale?

also wtf the mod increased my ban after I told him I'd be a good boy.

I can't even clear my notifications this shit sucks

curse you prog dad qwerty

may you be condemned to listen only ABBA songs not on ABBA Gold in hell

>>74335641
A A

>>74335651
that's what I mean though

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who would win?

>>74335724
A'A is lava

>>74335724
Exux3 any day
Those eyes kill

>>74335697
fish i will never use rym again. its such a weird feeling

>>74335724
>A Photographer Took Pictures Before and After he Told a Caribbean Man That he Was the Obeah Man and it's Beautiful

>>74335790
;__;

>>74335724
exumuxe would win because he is intensely focused.

>>74335790
>Unironically giving sharifi money
deserved it desu

>>74335838
i liked the grey theme and the immediate genre tags. i hope they are proud of what they have done in banning an intelligent, contributing member of their community

>>74335863
you could be like sal and just keep making new accounts over and over again
or be like Shamepai, who has sent creepy PMs to multiple females (male), ban evade, and made multiple lists that bully people, then apologize and say you had a change of heart and they'll let you back in because they're a bunch of softies

>>74335885
i was thinking about ban evading but its so much WORK and i think rym might have had a slightly negative influence on my attitude towards music

i should probably accept my punishment and move on from that website despite my routine-like attachment to its faculties

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>>74335885
>or be like Shamepai, who has sent creepy PMs to multiple females (male), ban evade, and made multiple lists that bully people, then apologize and say you had a change of heart and they'll let you back in because they're a bunch of softies
why is this the funniest fucking thing to me

>>74335921
no i need your ratings to tell me what not to listen to

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>>74336049
you mean... the things i rate low... because i generally have good taste?

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>>74336104
mhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>74336104
>Good taste
>Posts a 125x119 image
kek

Is their anything out there like the knife or fever ray?

Was she just a one off?

>John Balance (of the music group Coil) died on 13 November 2004, after falling from a two-story balcony at his home.
I guess he lost his

balance

>>74337943
>After being unable to top the 'John Balance joke', and three years after the fact, Accel took his own life, speeding into oncoming traffic

>>74336842
Knife fever by the bee gees

>>74337998
I guess he increased his... acceleration

>>74338916
ohhh
oh noooo

>>74338916
DON'T EXPLAIN THE JOKE

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>>74338719
dank, have a (You)

>>74328817
morbid saint - spectrum of death

>>74329627
34
>>74330124
31
>>74340905
30

>>74328392
>Maybe I’ll listen to the whole thing next time I’m angsting
You really had to finish it to see it's not angsty shit, quite the reverse. At least I lost to a Moog album, gotta love some Moog.

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is there any high res scan of this cover art on the internet anywhere?

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>>74327736

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bum

>>74340905
>>74331061
Hey nerds, I have a radio show now.

God to 90.7 if you can

>inb4 cumblogs

>>74343869
We just met!!
But I'll tune in, will be in the car in a min!

>>74344039
nice

I'm broadcasting out of barnstable tho so you might not hear it

>>74325097
Hi what kind of music is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tZamFKyPwM
and who makes similar stuff?

>>74344112
also you can call me, the station number is

>508
>375
>4030

>>74344112
you on wkkl dunno if i found the right stream

>>74344195
yeah

I don't know if we are online yet. If you found somewhere, that'll be news to me

>>74344207
https://www.capecod.edu/web/wkkl-90.7
you just started playing liliput yeah?

>>74344237
yeah, nice. I didn't even know we had online streaming

>>74344154
i would call that avant folk/improv

check out Tim Buckley - Starsailor

that song you linked sounds like it twkes direct influence from that buckley album

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me on the left

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nieeeeerds

>>74343869
nice! I'll see if I can get the whole family listening lol

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me and rudi met

>>74345514
qt boys!

>>74345514
dope

>>74345514
Which is whomst?

>>74345514
wow nerds

(w2c purple shirt)

>>74345514
So the all daily boys are gay thing ain't a joke eh

>>74345676
me left rudi right

>>74345705
target my man

>>74345514
nice
also your turn for the listenalong is this week in case you didn't know but no pressure

End me senpai

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>>74345514
Natking the kind of guy to bike to his own backyard

>>74345764
yup

I've already got an album in mind, I'll post the thingy when I get back to NY

>>74345784
hype

>>74345514
wow i love this cute couple <3

>>74345514
holy qts

>>74347787
is that natkingcole?

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>>74347875
wrong

>>74347903
i wear suits everyday

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>>74347875
No this is

>>74347917
suit yourself

>>74345309
thats my steam id pic lol

>>74345514
I wish I could be there. Too bad I got tied up w/ shit.

get up with it is so good holy christ
>>74345514
nice

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What rn? No gybe

>>74349547
anfootball - americ

>>74349547
man is the animal

>>74349697
Ok>>74349701
??

>>74349825
ape of naples

>>74349854
Oh haha good joke
Might have time for both

>>74349697
0.0-0.5) I'm infuriated
1.0-1.5) I'm irked
2.0-2.5) I'm indifferent <--- this one
3.0-3.5) I'm into this
4.0-4.5) I'm impressed
4.5-5.0) I'm iorgasming

>>74350396
>orgasming to Mark Kozelek talking about his cousin dying, having his dick sucked in middle school, and eating panera bread and blue crab cakes

>>74350433
dont yuck my yum, dog

>>74326428
>nearly falling asleep
>doing something other than listening to music, when music is present
fucking plebs need to put more attention into tunes

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What's the most obscure album you've heard that was actually good?

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>>74350692
None, all music is equally 3.5/5.0

>>74350771
Except anfootball, which is 3.0

>>74335697
what did you say exactly? seems difficult to fuck it up desu

>>74350692
telstar drugs telstar drugs

>>74350692
neutral milk hotel - in the aeroplane over the sea

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>>74350396
>iorgasming to Girl Talk

>>74350692
https://phinery.bandcamp.com/album/decordova

>>74350692
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/inglinga/%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B2-%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BC-%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B5/
Good luck figuring out how to listen to this :^)

>>74351029
Yeah well
Shut up

>>74349854
Didn't have time for Coil so I went with Candy Claws and yo it's good, probably 4.0 unless it shits itself

>>74352269

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>He Was Eaten By Owls - Chorus 30 From Blues for the Hitchhiking Dead
>blog says "it's Iike if GY!BE did math rock"

Big meme, but this is a decent release for a continuous, ~30 minute album. Good instrumentation variety for some sort of UK Art Council partially funded production. Haven't looked too much into it's political message.

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>>74352720
>try to add it to my rym wishlist

>>74352720
It's definitely not as bad as the band name, album name, and track names would suggest.

>>74352773
Fucking rip

>>74353010
Haha yeah those track names are fucked
>Most Young Kings Get Their <sic> Head Cut Off
>Except You Enthral Me, Never Shall Be Free, Nor Ever Chaste, Except You Ravish Me

>>74353921

Music discussion

>>74355055

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Literally
>Wow look at me guys I'm a good album but sometimes I'm also a bad album
the album

Going to have to relisten to Peasant but was I the only one who found a good portion of the songs varied little to each other?

>>74355692
he has his schtick and he schticks to it but there are tons of great melodies

>>74355692
tbqh im scared to relisten to this because my rating of it will likely drop

>>74355732
The schtick really does schtick, and it at least has me curious to give it another spin so I'd say that's a job well done. What have you been listening to, tripup?

>>74355816
Same Places (Slow Version) has been my object of affection for these past few days

going thru indie rock classics too (Dinosaur Jr/Pavement) and they're mostly good but don't capture me as much as i'd like

i downloaded lift to experience so that's happening soon too

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>>74355816
he's actually listening to nothing because he got his rym banned

>>74355810
>>74355896
I admire the dedication it takes to run an RYM with that nice rating curve. It's like a tasty little garden but I could never into it. I also haven't been around you guys though, I'm sure having a community helps

>>74355871
Oh LTE, very nice. Are you bothering with the original mix?

>>74355989
this is the first i have heard about different version so should i bother with the original mix

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>>74355989
>dedication
i think it just happened like that on accident, but thanks
heard your self-titled album recently, was surprised how you made christian music appealing to me again ala Sufjan. good stuff

>>74356012
One of the mixes has louder vocals, among other changes? Pretty sure it's listen to original before remastered in this case

>>74355692
where's the good album part haha? actually found most of the tunes forgettable or at the very least they didn't get a grip on my feels. also after hearing Ogre i got me excited for a more "orchestrated" album so it let me down in that regard too, mostly. can see where the hype comes from at least

>>74350946
I just said "Add Kate Bush" like 20 times and he deleted them and reported me lmao

>>74345514
kute!

>>74356244
:0 do meeee :0

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How's this for an OP image, guys :o)

>>74356529
waitin on blapp to get back from wherever theyve gone off to but yeah sure

>>74356596
make it Shits and it's perfect

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>>74356623

get in here
>>74357065
>>74357065
>>74357065
>>74357065