/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

which guitar should i get as a complete beginner?

>>73862684
Anything cheap, but not retardedly cheap. Something like $200. Then after a year you'll know if you're actually sticking to it and can get something better

>>73862801
thanks

>>73862684
Something used.

>>73862684

Look on Facebook, there should be plenty of used deals. Even if you make a post in a relevant sales group saying something like....

Hi I'm going to start playing guitar. Looking to buy a starter pack: guitar, amp and lead. My budget is $xxx. Show me what y'all got.

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How do you clean your fretboard?

People are saying steel wool, lighter fluid, windex, razor blades?

It's either lighter fluid or steel wool,
Lighter fluid seems bad because it's a liquid and steel wool seems bad because it's abrasive.

>>73863006
Hand sanitizer, because it has alcohol and moisturizers in it. That way it cleans the germs and gunk away, and the fretboard doesn't dry out.

Can I ask about suggestions for a bass pedal under 50 USD here?

I haven't played much fingerstyle but how hard/long would it take to learn this song? I can play the Gareth Evans let her go fingerstyle and thats about it in that style

www.youtube.com/watch?v=g30-pZiUwmY

>>73863006
First of all not letting it get so grimy, by being a clean person.
Just wipe it down with a wet cloth and then fretboard oil, another cleanup with the wet cloth and then t final application of oil.

>>73863006
>how to clean a fretboard
>Step 1
buy a guitar with a Maple neck
>Step 2
laugh at everybody who has a fretboard that has fucking holes in it
>Step 3
enjoy never having to clean your fretboard

>>73863237
But then I'd have to look at it, and maple necks are ugly.

>>73863280
>maple necks are ugly
I can't even understand how a person could have this opinion. Shame on you

>>73863006
Scratch the grime off with the side of a pick.

>>73863006

Any household cleaning wipes (e.g. flash antibacterial multi surface kills 99.99% of germs) will do the job, removing gunk/fingerpoop whilst retaining the integrity of the instrument.

Plz rate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3_s9rjdfOs

Is guitar fretboard workbook from Barrett Tagliarino a good book?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jf9-VyXEKE

what do you guys think of Steve Terreberry. He annoyed me before but now I think he's pretty funny and entertaining.

>>73863444
Oh shit, I have the same guitar in black.

>>73863496

i think the likelihood of anyone on here having read that book is slim to none.

A better question would probably be, "guize, what's a good book ?"

good for what lol

>>73863508

post pics?

I've had mine for at least 10 years lol. SA series I think, dunno the model. I love it, it's so versatile with the different pickups, 1 piece body, tremolo, can do anything on it except rage against the machine solos lol.

>>73863118
A couple of hours should do it.

Bear in mind that he doesn't appear to fully understand how rhythm work judging by his tabs.

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>>73863707
I don't play it as much as I should. Putting new strings on right now.

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Got this Epiphone SG yesterday, it is very nice but I can't get locking straps onto it, the screws that came with it won't fit through the strap button, all my other screws are too thin.

>>73863815

fuck me that's a nice one. The SA series is probably the best of the less expensive models :P I've played some other cheaper ibanez' and find the neck to be way too wide, and tones are shit lol.

You have reminded me of one drawback however! And that's bridge maintenance and to a much lesser extent, tuning.

You see the hexagonal nuts keeping the floating bridge in place? You can remove the bridge as it were and check for wear against these hexagonal nuts. It may be the case that you need to screw them abit further down or abit higher up, in order to get a nice temolo height, a nice action, and no buzzing/rattling.

String gauge will also affect the bridge and the action. Best to adjust the bridge height when the new strings are on.

I've only done this once in the 10 years I've owned it though.

With regards to tuning, due to the floating bridge, I tune the low E first, then the A, then back to the low E to make sure it's in tune, then back to the A and D, then BACK to the low e to make sure it's still in tune, a repeat with the rest of the strings lol. Takes slightly longer to tune than a hardtail bridge, but thats its a small price to pay for having fun with the whammy bar.

I hope that was a cool story bro.

I don't come to /mu/ very often, what is the opinion here on Rocksmith?

>>73863955
what model is this

>>73863955

guitar 8/10

t-shirt 3/10

>>73863984

y tho

>>73863989
Vintage G-400 Worn Brown

>>73863984
It's a toy, even if I never found this kind of games funny.

it's far better to learn guitar the traditional way, I don't really get why this gamification phenomena is so still relevant, I guess that's why products like these are more succesful in America
instant gratification with no real learning

>>73863973
I put all 5 springs in the bridge to disable the whammy. I don't have any trouble tuning it now.

It is a really nice guitar, but it's on the higher end of the spectrum, I use it for tricky solos.
I have a BC rich for really heavy stuff
And an epiphone SG as my all rounder, I feel guilty playing the SG more than the Ibanez, considering the price difference.

Like pic related but black and no pick guard. >>73863955

>>73864047

why is this exist

$___$

>>73864047
*phenomenon

>>73863955
>screws too thin

do you have some matches? when screws are too thin, I usually cut a little wood sitck from a match, insert it in the hole and then proceed screwing the whole thing
it works, adds width to the screw

>>73864082
That works but I wouldn't trust it to hold the guitar to the strap.

>>73864072
>phenomena
do you even latin singular/plural forms

If you can't identify the bpm of a song by tapping your foot and counting, you should kill yourself.

If you've ever needed to practice to a metronome instead of just listening and repeating what you've heard, you should kill yourself.

If you can't identify strumming patterns on the first listen and repeat them, you should kill yourself.

>>73864092
you could always fill the hole with something like bicomponent glue and then drill a new one

or, go to your local hardware store and find some other screws
or buy a new straplock

>>73864068

>5 springs
madman.

nah that's actually a bang on resolution to what could be a problem for some.

It is a pretty nice guitar for its price I agree. Which guitar do you prefer to play? And which one do you say you play at your best on?
I've seen so many unwanted, dilapidated SG's, never had the opportunity to play one ;'(.

I did play my friend's gibson les paul the other day, and I gotta say I would never pay the stupid money for one of those. Sure it played nicely and the build quality was very nice. But there's no way it's worth 1 or 2 grand more than the ibanez.

>>73864102
there's no point knowing BPMs, and God please "tapping your foot and counting", seriously?

time signature is the only thing you need to know to have the correct shuffle and groove, but if you can't feel the beat and stay on tempo just by ear, well

everyone uses a metronome

strumming patterns? is this like guitar 101
"up and down and down and-a-up"

>>73864102

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up_KMtm0Gn0

1 its impossible to get the exact bpm. It's like counting seconds.

I'm inclined to agree with point 2.

And point 3 it takes me a few focused listens to get to grips with a song I really enjoy, it's even harder to learn a song I hate!

Post some clyps or vids of your flawless playing as you evidently have very high standards of technical proficiency. Either that or you're venting cause your bandmates are dogshit.

what would I need to do to add a push/pull knob volume switch so that my two DiMarzio humbuckers can turn into two single coils ?

Gonna buy my first guitar soon.
What do you guys suggest to a guitar noob?

Got a 400 yuros budget and was thinking about an epiphone LP along a small vox amp.

>>73864202

visit a luthier and pay him £30-40

>>73864100
It's Greek, not Latin. Anon was talking about a single one but used the plural form (phenomena) when he should have used the singular form (phenomenon).

>>73864202
The appropriate wiring. Make sure to use genuine DiMarzio® pickup wiring for the highest quality tone and sustain.

>>73864209

Go to a local store and try out a bunch. Literally spend an afternoon trying all the guitars up to about 400-450 euros. Then just buy a pick or a pack or strings or a strap or some shit.

Make a note of any guitars (brand, model/number) you like, and the prices, and check them vs online retailers.

>>73864160
Can you not count to 60 and tap your foot to a beat and count the taps? Can you not count two sequences of numbers at once? It isn't useful per se, but if you can't do this you're doomed to playing campfire songs for your entire life.

No one with beyond a basic level of rhythmic competency needs to use a metronome.

I'm talking about jazz and actually complex patterns, not whatever country rock you play, faggot.

>>73864183
You have an awful internal clock. You should work on developing that. I can guess what time it is during the day just by knowing what time I woke up.

My bandmates are dogshit

>>73863955
nice dude, my new Epi Sheraton II pro is coming in on thursday, I can't wait

>>73864332
Yeah well I can guess what time it is during the day just by looking at my wrist.
Where is your god now?

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so, /gg/, did Jimi Hendrix know music theory or not?

>>73864283
will go tomorrow, thanks for the advice

>>73864332

lol tell me about your bandmates and I'll tell you about mine :P

Or at least tell me what they do to piss you off haha.


GUITAR SECRET INBOUND

Alot of songs/phrases/bars with complex time signatures can be counted like this: one-two one-two one-two one-two one-two one-two.

Rather than one-two-three-four-five-six-seven-eight-nine-ten-eleven-

You can split it up like one-two-three one-two-three one-two-three-four-five.

3+3+5 makes 11.

Please share your music and guitar secrets

>>73864363
One thing's for sure, he didn't know don't-choke-on-your-own-vomit theory.

>>73864372

have fun and don't listen to any salesfags. It's all about what you like and what you find comfortable, what you like the sound of, is the build quality decent, and, do you like the colour :P

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>>73864144
SG 80%, Ibanez 15%, BC %5

I feel I play better on the SG, but that might just because it was my first electric.

I never play the BC, it's pic related model. Ugly and awkward, not sure why I bought it really. At least it was half price. Someone bought it, put blue strings on it, then returned it to the store. Plays well though.

>>73864418

looks alright. I agree though the design of flying v's is just ridiculous. Quick sale £70. lol.

>>73864357
Great. I'm glad you're proud of your handicap.

>>73864375
They don't practice because they think they're better than they actually are. Ever met a stuck up jazz organ player?

>>73864221
>>73864260

I'm relatively new in the whole guitar repair/mod scene, I figured this would be a pretty easy mod
but since a friend of mine is a luthier, I guess I could just sit next to her as she's working on the guitar and learn a couple of things

>>73864209
you should find the most appealing sound, weight and overall feel
it's your first guitar but it doesnt mean you have to trash it in two years

I would go with a strat because my first guitar was a lp too, and then it was kind of hard for me to understand and appreciate other sounds and playing styles

of course, the genres you like playing the most should be taken into account

>>73864349
at some point I want to buy a big hollowbody electric, not sure if Gretsch or Epiphone

>>73861179
It would have hurt more.

>>73863992
No argument here. WTF was I thinking!

>>73863955
Return for different brand of locks. Don't fuck up your SG.

>>73864575
I've never met an organ player whose head wasn't stuck up his own ass. They are the saltiest bunch of people.

>>73864870
Autistic piano players essentially. I've met a few nice guys who play organ, but never have I had one in my band.

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Anyone getting the Rob Chapman doll? Action figure? It's a bit idealized, if you ask me, but it comes with two accessory guitars and, of course, the signature dreadlocks. I'll pick one up for a laugh. Only 20 quid.

>>73865048
It'd be worth it just to tweet picture of it being abused to him.

>>73865076
This>>73865048
cum on it and send a different pic to him everyday

>>73865048
>Rob Chapman
that fat guy from Andertons?
man yeah, I'd say it's a *tad* idealized

but he's cool, I used to dislike him but now he keeps the joke-o-meter at zero so it's cool
I would have almost killed him for that lousy cobain jag review, I like his reviews with that Captain guy more now

>>73862667
my fingers hurt
what do

>>73865260
play more
earn those calluses

>>73865048
>a bit

>>73864575
Lmao, what else is grinding your gears?

I have unfortunately never met a jazz organ player. If someone has a superior ear then I can recognise it. I can also recognise when someone is fronting their ego to mask their feelings of inadequacy in a given activity.

Thinking they're better than they actually are, such a common misdemeanour. My guitarist doesn't have the confidence to play mean solos unless he's coked up, I'm always arguing with the guy. He's not a bad person, but when it comes to music he can be a total cock, unwilling to play rhythm parts, yet not recognising the superiority of other players (me) in every facet of guitar playing.

Sure I'm big headed but I earned it through years of practice. I only wish that I could play with musicians who are more skilled, as it would help me become more skilled too. My band holds me back and uses me for my skill.

But, I'm still with them. Why? Cause I can't find anyone better who wants to be in a band and make some music. I left primary school 7 years ago, but we're back in the playground.

>>73865700

*school, not primary, that would make me some kind of jailbait. I'm 25.

>>73865803
:3

>>73865845

stop mocking me

gibe criticism plox
https://youtu.be/XOLORvoQu_U

/gg/ - looking to begin journey in learning guitar - are their any good and cheap jaguar clones? Can't find any used in my area, and I like the look and sound. Anyone with experience with a xaviere Xbox-jt100? Looks like a reasonably priced downgraded jazzmaster, but again what do I know.

Also, anyone here ever play on a Yamaha sgv 300/800 or the sbv series? Are they any good? Based on look and yt sound that's my dream guitar/bass (yeah sue me, it's an uggo, w/e) but rarely come up and always pretty pricey. Not looking for one now (well maybe a little), but just want to get a feel for other people feelings regarding the gear. Thanks in advance.

>>73866212
Turns out you play bass better than guitar

>>73865700
fuck off narcissistic. no musician is good enoff for you to play with ah?

Anyone have any experience with Carvin/Kiesel Guitars?

>>73866255
thats a fact for any average guitarist because bass is an easier instrument :^)

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>>73866304
>>73866467
I know you already told me

>>73866488
delete it

>it's a "come up with a killer riff but you don't know where to go with it" episode
I don't think songwriting is for me guys, I'm much better off just covering other people's shit

>>73865700
I'm in a similar boat to you, band wise.

Other than my organist, the rhythym guitarist would rather noodle than practice. He isn't much of a rhythym guitarist and he's honestly a better soloist but he can only solo in the blues boxes. Not much of a melody maker either, I have to write all of our guitar parts and show him how to play them in person, or write tab for him.

Bassist is solid, always knows his parts and helps compose because he has a better understanding of theory than the rest of the band.

We just got a new drummer and he's decent, it's only been a month and we haven't sat down together to write anything with him yet so I'm not sure how that will go. He seems to have his head on straight though.

The issue is that we play (I write in) a sort of jazz fusion style, complex rhythms and extended chords, with some influence from a lot of genres that don't fully display themselves in our music (metal music, some hardcore, math/post rock). There's very few people interested in playing this here, so stuck with this shitty organist and rhythym guitarist for now until I move on to greener pastures. I just need to sell the gear I don't want to take with me first.

I'm hoping to get more into the latin Jazz coastal scene. I can feel the stagnation living here. It's truly hell. I don't feel like I'm being used per se, it's just that I'm surrounded by relative mediocrity.

>>73866794
post your kbands music

anyone dares to watch this
https://youtu.be/gog7xtXvndI

>>73866215
>Yamaha sgv 300/800
The 300 was kinda cheap. (Maybe the higher the number, the better the feel?) I could go for a classic SG Samurai in pearl white, though.

>>73867059
Good to know - give me the pearl green or electric blue tho unf

do people actually memorize scales to a T instead of learning its intervals and learning how to find intervals on the neck

>>73866959
When I have something that wasn't recorded on tape cassette I will.

>>73867241
plug the cassetes output to the pc input and record it

>>73867200
People learn both. Usually learning the scales comes first as it helps in finding the intervals.

>>73866212
I play mainly bass
you play guitar, so you can play this song effortlessly

but your picking technique is wrong, you could give more groove to those notes. Also, stop hitting every cord like a guitar, you need much more pressure

that index swirling doesn't work on bass, at least not like that


I'm not even commenting the fact that you said bass is easier
difficult=/=complex

I'm 26

is it too late to start a band? I don't want to be famous or shit, I just want to play with some people :(

>>73867273
my wondering was out of a moment of laziness wanting to not practice scales but i remembered its important to know the scales and not just find intervals on the spot

>>73864382
I can't believe I laughed at such a bad joke

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>>73867258
I know how tape works. It's really low quality. Just demo tapes for home practice for bandmates. When I get something higher quality I will post it.

>>73867327
>but your picking technique is wrong, you could give more groove to those notes
enlighten me on that
plain picking stronger and harder?

>stop hitting every cord like a guitar, you need much more pressure
a what, strum chords? i didnt do that in there

>that index swirling doesn't work on bass, at least not like that
hows it?

>I'm not even commenting the fact that you said bass is easier
>difficult=/=complex
i stand corrected. its both easier and simpler

>>73867428
i suppose these low quality recordings are listenable enough
also why you record with a cassette instead of a smartphone in current year

>>73867473
I got my first smartphone last month. Samsung S7.

I'm a luddite when it comes to that stuff. I have been using a flip phone for years.

>>73866258

I'm perfectly happy to play with musicians who are not as skilled or not as developed in music theory and using their ear. I really enjoy helping other people get better at understanding, making, and improvising music.

What I don't like, is playing second fiddle to some dipshit who doesn't have the same level of understanding.

I will happily admit my narcissism when it comes to viewing my own skill vs others. And I always love being humbled as it forces me to get better.

is crazyagas ego as big as his asshole or as his penis

>>73867600
The first one. Remember to report him for ban evading.

>>73867438
You should mainly use your thumb, index and middle finger
Playing a note on the bass is like shooting an arrow, you need the right amount of tension: too little and you will miss, too much and you will go somewhere else
also, your picking hand should always stay ready at muting, but since you play guitar I guess you use both hands for that: just remember, bass strings are heavier and thicker, they will resonate more and nearby strings will be affected too

Vibrato on the bass is used more like a "sustain" technique, rather than creating a more enveloping sound, if you get my meaning

each bass has its own sound, and from there there's nothing much you can do
so it's all about playing the right notes, at the right time, with the right speed and tempo
so yeas, maybe it sounds easier on the paper

but what most people don't realize is that 90% percent of the time a good bass line is what makes the difference
the overall "feel" of the song, the overlapping melodies, the rhythm and the structure lies in those simple yet fundamental notes

I'm not talking specifically about van vooten-tier players
listen to carol kaye for example, she played bass on most of Beach Boys records
she wrote that "good vibrations" riff, you know

>>73862667
Thinking about getting a sm57 to record vocals. What should I get to record my guitar? ('89 strat)

>>73867640
a sm57. use a 58 for vocals because it has a pop filter

>>73866794

Guitarists aye, what a bunch of douchebags :P

You're lucky that you get to play with a bassist who knows how to play bass and has an understanding of music.

My bassist is a totally different story...
Before this band, he was in a techdeth metal band from the age of 18-22. This band was basically, the lead guitarist would write all the parts on guitarpro, and then disseminate them. These parts were difficult and well beyond the bands' ability levels, sounded pretty bad live except for the drummer who was always 100%.
This bassist would often "pretend" to play bass. Would never learn parts, he'd just go up on stage, turn the volume down to 2, and play random stuff while headbanging.

He's a good friend, but the musicians he played with before did nothing to help him improve. However over the past year he has really put the work in regarding learning covers and coming up with riffs that make musical sense.

It's frustrating to play with musicians who are not as skilled, for many reasons, unless you're playing a piece. Improvisation is impossible and very boring for the lesser musician as they are relegated to playing a boring and repetitive rhythm.

Moreover, ego problems are so brutally annoying, I'm sure everyone here who's been in a band has dealt with them.

Sure you can call me egotistical. But when the objective is to make good music, pleasing sounds, and the objective is not being met, then yes, I get pissy. "This doesn't make musical sense" is my catchphrase.

Tell me your band horror stories /gg/.

>>73864102
>not clapping 7-over-4 polyrhythm to metronome set at 44bpm every night before bed

Do you even groove, sempe?

>>73867640
>>73867661
You are better off recording guitars with a Senn 609e

Vocals can be done with an SM58, or upgrade to a condenser mic but that depends on on your budget

>>73867750
>This doesn't make musical sense
I bet you're a blast to make music with.

>>73867870

Even if you're shit at your instrument, as long as you recognise it and you're willing to try, then yes it's a blast.

If you're shit, and you wanna pretend your good, fuck you in your stupid ass.

r8 my attitude

>>73859333
lol

>He's not homeless
>He's not an amphetamine junkie
>He's hasn't been microdosing blotters for the past 6 months
>He didn't pawn his pedals to buy rice

Y'all cowards don't even have dedication

>>73868006
>r8 my attitude
4/10

Because happily playing like shit with other people only brings them down. Your shitty attitude could effect other people in your band

>>73866667
Save the riff for later until you come up with another one or two or twenty.

>>73868247
>>He didn't pawn his pedals to buy rice
What did he mean by this?

>>73868281
I sold my entire pedal board for cheap to buy non-perishable goods such as rice, pasta
Part of me just wanted cash, part of me likes selling stuff cheap for other musicians (since I know they're probably struggling too)

>>73868350
>rice
Do you live in a third world nation or something?

>>73868384
I live in the UK (Where most good musicians are from, isn't that right?)

Fuck money, such is dedication

>>73868413
>(Where most good musicians are from, isn't that right?)
Not really
>Fuck money, such is dedication
Maybe the UK is where all the lazy assholes are

>>73868449
>Not really
Ok
>Lazy assholes
...
>Dedicating almost every waking moment of your entire life to something is lazy because it doesn't pay
Fuck off hobbyist

>>73868481
>Fuck off hobbyist
Playing in four bands, two of which are touring and putting out albums this summer, are hobbies?

Sounds like you don't know how to be a professional musician

>>73868006
3/10

I get the sense you're one of those guys who thinks they're always right and when you get fixated on an idea, it's for the reason that it's YOURS more than what purpose it serves. If you're running into ego problems constantly, you have to look in the mirror and really determine if it isn't you.

I know a guy like this, and I can't tell you how many times he changed the most engaging parts because it "doesn't make sense" or it's the "wrong note". It is his fucking catchphrase and it's costing him great songs in favor of good songs to this day.

>>73868481
>>Dedicating almost every waking moment of your entire life to something is lazy because it doesn't pay
I would give you actual advice to fix this, but I don't think you want it.

Enjoy dying homeless under a bridge

>>73868481
>>Dedicating almost every waking moment of your entire life to something is lazy because it doesn't pay
Oh is shitposting on /mu/ part of your art?

>>73868502
Fuck your 4 bands, I only need one
>Professional musician
You should have been a marketing assistant, ya fucking dilettante

>>73868575
It's worth the risk, my man

>>73868603
Hence "almost"
This is still music related anyway

>>73868603
>not appreciating the Internet's native art form

>>73868575
Is it really worse than playing weddings every weekend for 30 years? That's up to you...

>>73868628
>Fuck your 4 bands
Maybe this is why you are failing -- you have no people skills and you don't know how to make connections. In effect, you've developed some persecution complex

>>73868640
>Is it really worse than playing weddings every weekend for 30 years? That's up to you...
Only one option of many.

>>73868665
>People skills
Why the FUCK do you think I make music? Jesus
Go away, shoo shoo!
I know your type all too well. You have all the right things in place, you have all the new expensive gizmos, but your music is just fucking garbage... Shame!

>>73868702
>your music is just fucking garbage
>but my music is so great, I am currently homeless and sold all my gear for rice
Sure

>>73868449
hahahahahahahahaaahhaha

t.burger

enjoy living in the shadow of the superior UK talent anon

>>73868724
>Money means anything
>"Success", in this life, means anything
Many a great artist died broke and unknown. I have no fear

>>73868640
i suppose playing weddings is cool
you're with your bandmates, you're entertained, you're at a comfy enviroment with fresh air conditioning, you're getting paid nicely.

>>73868798
so thats what you want?

>>73868798
>Many a great artist died broke and unknown
List 60 of them

>>73868824
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73868247
heres 7 of them already. they arent dead already but thats a certain amtter of time

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This should arrive at my doorstep in a few days.

>>73868818
That's not even up to you. Success, as you're understanding it, is just luck. More men will fall than rise in this world, and some will go down swinging. Watch out for those ones. You're envious of them. Fearful of them, even. They are free, and it drives you crazy.

>>73868859
>>73868798
How do you know they were great if they died unknown?

I kind of fucked up the other day...I wanted to clean the fretboard of my acoustic guitar with lemon oil, but just as I tried to apply the oil, the cap snapped off and plenty of lemon oil got into the soundhole. Will this damage my guitar and will the stains in there ever fade?

Would a fender jag work for indie and alt rock (vampire weekend, weezer, etc)

>>73868886
money is easy to get, i dont get why they died starving

>>73868895
>Nobody ever found posthumous recordings by some heroin addict that were the shit

Nope. Never happened.

>>73868886
>You're envious of them. Fearful of them, even. They are free, and it drives you crazy.
What do I care? They'll be dead and I'll be alive.
>>73868929
Again, name 60 of them

>>73868921
Wrong. Money is easy to keep once you have it. When you start with zero, it's difficult and occasionally deadly to obtain.

>>73868917
Unless you're buying a pre-CBS Jaguar get a real Fender like a Strat or a Tele you fag.

>>73868995
Strat doesn't sound as nice and Teles are uncomfortable to play imo.

>>73868818
I want to be in a position whereby I have the freedom to create music daily without being hassled by the man (all cliches aside), though I know this is not attainable, and even if I did manoeuvre myself into such a position, it is likely that my output would suffer as a result.

You see, the struggle IS what makes it great. It is what makes it all worthwhile. The endless boredom, the anger, the frenzy, the repetition, the chaos...and then the music, the result, the release. These are the very things that elevate my music and make it real.
You can play your music, and I'm sure you do and will... and it will always be safe, tepid, lukewarm, because this is what you are, and all you can ever be.

Now, you may argue that I've partly achieved this goal by refusing to conform in every breath, though I don't feel it's quite as free as I'd like it to be right now.
So the struggle continues, and one side of my mouth smiles anyway.

>>73868886
He will likely never understand

>>73868895
>>73868921
It's all about good music. I don't care for recognition.

>>73869032
>Teles are uncomfortable
>Wants a Jaguar

If you really want a Jaguar I'd honestly suggest going for the Squier Vintage Modified. The American Professional Jags aren't real Jags and the Classic Player Jaguar isn't worth it when the Vintage Modified is literally the same guitar but says Squier on the headstock.

>>73869112
when are you going to post your good music?

>>73869117
That's what I was looking at. Ive heard good things about vm. I've held both maybe I'm just a pleb when it comes to comfort but will it work for those sounds

>>73869112
t. music theory stifles creativity

>>73869135
I'm not

>>73869143
Negative. I think you should do whatever you want. Learn theory, and then try to surpass it IF you can.

how much time do you guys spend learning a scale before moving on to a new one?

>>73868949
like what? you dont need money to do bricklayer work or factory stuff

>>73869176
>I think you should do whatever you want.
I want to ignore your idiot junky pretend-musician advice

>>73869112
>I want to be in a position whereby I have the freedom to create music daily without being hassled by the man (all cliches aside)
>though I know this is not attainable, and even if I did manoeuvre myself into such a position, it is likely that my output would suffer as a result.
It is possible. It's called "neeting up and having a guitar"

>>73869229
>learning new ones
lmao
i still play pentatonics and major modes

>>73869281
Fuck off and go listen to the Foo Fighters or something

>>73869284
You are still hassled when neet

>>73869338
well you're hassled if you walk around the city

>>73869312
arent arpeggios as essential as pentatonic?

>>73869256
One day, I'll have that god-tier handshake. I wish I had friends to practice with.

>>73869379
?arpeggios excuse me

>>73869112
Except self-imposed pain only creates disingenuous art

Have fun being a fake

>>73869229
There's basically five; major, melodic minor, harmonic minor, diminished and whole-tone.

Pentatonics and arpeggios are subsets, skeletons if you will, of those listed.

We're guitarists so we have it mad easy when it comes to scales. Woodwind, brass and keyboard people have to learn a new set of muscle memory every time they even change key.

>>73869445
>Woodwind, brass and keyboard people have to learn a new set of muscle memory every time they even change key.
how do they do that? youd have to be a super human to keep motivated and know al that stuff

>>73869536
I think the trick is to find works written in those more challenging keys, rather than militantly drilling them in up-and-down or intervalic patterns. The same might be said about guitar.

There's only 12 notes so if you learn a lot of music, you will retain things like scales and arpeggios and harmony, at least on an intuitive level.

>>73868917
Answer please

>>73869797
Yes of course it would

>>73869831
Cool I still need to test out a few different guitars but some outside opinion helps. Thanks for finally answering

>>73869536
>youd have to be a super human
Found the marching-band geek.

>>73869432
>self imposed
>he thinks i chose to be this way
lol
you know nothing of sincerity

Okay, newb here, I have a few questions. Is it safe to work on the truss rod of a guitar? Do you need to adjust the truss rod before setting up your string height? Also, which locking tuners, bridge, and pups would you recommend me to buy for a PRS Se Custom 24? I want to turn it into a really decent guitar, but I don't know what to buy. Thanks in advan ce.

>>73869977
I would like to add that I play mostly rock, blues, jazz, and metal. So a pup that can handle does styles would be great. Also, I don't like floyd roses, so a decent bridge would be appreciated.

>>73869904
See:
>I think you should do whatever you want.
>I want to be in a position whereby I have the freedom to create music daily without being hassled by the man
>you may argue that I've partly achieved this goal by refusing to conform in every breath

As you can see, you are making the choice to be like this. Hence your "art" will always be disingenuous

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Thinking about buying a hagstrom ultra swede, any of you have experiences with hagstrom guitars?

>>73870186
Nah, you're just stupid

>>73869977
>Is it safe to work on the truss rod of a guitar?
yes if you only do it by small turns
>Do you need to adjust the truss rod before setting up your string height
i dont know, but i do it first

>>73870441
yes i read about one once

>>73870441
I play an Orville Les paul, played a super swede with a coil tap switch at a store recently, the pickups sounded good and it played well. The coil tap sounded really bad imo.

It's not quite just like a les paul as far as feel goes, but its close. Thats neither negative or positive, just an observation.

Fwiw: i preferred the hagstrom viking i played.

>>73870509
Alright, thanks mate.

>>73869117
POORFAG SYNDROME

i want to buy my first electric guitar and i have 160 dollars. but, in one or two weeks i i could afford a 450 guitar. i love to play the guitar, so i dont think im going to regret spending a lot for it. but i dont want to waste them though. also if i buy a 450 one then i cant buy an amp, but alredy got guitar rig on my computer so i think i'm good for a while.
any suggestions?

>>73871690
Get an Agile.

>>73871690
Dont ever under spend on a guitar. You will hate it. 450 is decent. Also amps mainly practice amps can be had for pretty cheap these days.

>>73870441
That headstock, in person, is a real work of art. I have nevered played one, but I prefer the more traditional version... Like a beefy Les Paul with the guard and all four knobs.

how does it feel to know that guitar is being replaced by computers in music and will soon become obsolete

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>>73872484
>he thinks guitar music and rock and roll isn't ripe for a return
You realise the world is waiting for this to happen, yes?

>>73872484
What exactly are you basing this on besides personal opinion?

>>73870441
that is how a les paul would look like if it was ugly

>>73872837
i can pretty much do anything a guitar player can do on my laptop and keyboard

>>73872930
guitar vst just sound bad to me to be honest, i think midi is great for a lot of instrument but i cant get a midi guitar to sound good

>>73872930
can you get laid on your laptop

>>73872930
Too bad no one takes laptop music seriously.

>>73872930
Except go to the park and just play and not worry about a damn thing.

You can, however, micromanage every single moment and ask yourself "does this sound good?" every five minutes.

That's the life you chose.

>>73872930
I'd be willing to bet 90% of people that go into a music store, do so with the intention of walking out with an actual instrument. (Most likely a guitar). Not some cucky bleep-bloop or interface.

when people think of musicians they thinks of nerds pressing buttons to fl studio

>>73873107
Go to your local Guitar Center or Sam Ash. The DJ/pro audio section is dead. Electronic music was a fad and people are already sick of it.

>>73873137
Stupid people, sure.

>>73869904
If you were actually sincere, you'd post your music, you're just an edgy fuck looking for attention.

>>73873150
Right. Whenever I see someone in there, there looking for a cord or just fucking around with the pianos.

>>73873245
They're*

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The ol pedalboard

>>73873446
Are you a Robert Smith?

>>73873235
>doxxing yourself
lol yes seems like a great idea

>>73873555
Prince.

>>73873446
why would the dl4 be first

>>73867750
>Moreover, ego problems are so brutally annoying, I'm sure everyone here who's been in a band has dealt with them.
>Tell me your band horror stories /gg/.
i got one
we were reharsing some foo fighters song which started with the rhythm guitarist and the singer. as they started the song, the singer said he was playing something wrong, then guitarist took off the guitar and gave it to the singer "then go play it yourself :("

>>73873591
Fuck, I need glasses lol
>>73873794
It looks like the blue Line 6 MM4 modulation pedal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdNh6U92viU

>>73874079
>not doing the superior gook version
https://youtu.be/3k_QZCXTW6c

fuck using other equipment

>>73871717
>>73872007
thanks! im going to wait then, instead of buying a cheap one now

>be NEET
>thought I needed picks
>did laundry
>picks

Did you do your laundry /gg/?

>>73874112
unholy shit that was unexpectedly good

How the fuck do I create a song that's actually unique? Feels like everything has been done.

>>73867347
29 here and in the same boat. fuck it bro do it

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>>73874165
what do you mean by laundry, my mom washes my clothes and bedclothes

>>73874214
I know, they're alright ain't they?
Also check this, I like it man
https://youtu.be/cc3g2hjsWx0
Gooks bringing the energy for sure

>>73874226
Be me
Don't be you

>>73874125
Dude, don't buy an Agile.

>>73874165
Yeah, I found a Jazz III in the dryer this morning.

>>73874370
mommys boys nevr make good music

>>73874226
Stop worrying about it. I'm not even saying that this will make your music unique. I'm saying you should reconsider what you find important.

>>73874600
https://soundcloud.com/samuelcfaria/asdasd
say that again

>>73874226
Lsd

>>73874226
Suffer

>>73874633
Fucking garbage
Makes me want to throw up

>>73874714
lol you jelly of my high IQ lead playing

>>73874709
Yes

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>>73874730
Garbage
Don't quit your day job

>>73874751
i'm plying i ever got a job
i'm gonna tour around the country sidemaning guitar to big local bands, i already started advertising

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>>73874782
Oh, you're stupid...

>pic related
You, in about 2 weeks time when you get nowhere, and the same in about 2 years time, and the same in 20...

>>73874898
2 weeks is a short period for someone who never did a freelance job

>>73874633
This sounds like generic royalty-free "call on hold" music.

>>73875058
it was intended to sound funny, like a parody of this (a longer version had lyrics) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIcthUTxNt0

>>73875093
>I intended it to be absolute garbage

>>73875093
>I was only pretending to be shit

>>73875123
>>73875160
>kek

>>73875058
Okay, so he can sell it to a stock library. The fuck is wrong with that? I bet that 50 bucks is more than you've ever made off of your songs.

>>73875270
Jesus, you people are parasitic

Fuck off and go get a marketing job or something, you stupid motherfucker

how i can make my lead guitar not sound like blues or generic rock?

>>73875397
Because God knows you're helping out at the soup kitchen and fucking Habitat for Humanity. I'm sorry, I wouldn't have said all those things if I knew I was in the same thread as Saint This Faggot Over Here.

>>73875397
How about you go and get a job yourself. Maybe then you can buy a guitar and play one.

>>73874370
S A M U E L
A
M
U
E
L

>>73875461
Study modes and get out of pentatonic

>>73871690
did you pay for guitar rig?

>>73875492
God might not know, it depends on what you believe... But you know!
>>73875502
I have several guitars and instruments moron

>>73875691
I dont believe you

>>73875911
why would i lie? lmao
fuck off

>>73875931
Why wouldnt you lie? You seem to lead a mundane life. Fallacies add some spice.

>>73875955
Project harder why dont you lmao did you even read this thread

>>73875988
> he actually reads everypost on this thread.

Hahahahhahaha get a fucking life. No one here even plays guitar.

>>73863498
Kinda slow to fads, kinda tryhard to be a meme

>>73863498
i used to watch his videos, funny

ac30 or vibro lux?

>>73876932
vibrtatone

>>73876932
ac30

>>73876932
jcm 900

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Nice thread , idiots.

>>73877172
pls be real frusciante

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>>73877108
YEEEEESSSSSSS

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>>73877193
What would happen if I was?

>>73877280
>Same tired anime post.
Arent you supposed to be creative. Loser

>>73877280
>john
>posting anime
yeah nah

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>>73877311
>>73877313
Oh, I see.

You'd just find a reason to still cry like bitches. Good to know, thanks.

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I channel the powers of the Gods.

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>>73877382
not fast enough

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>>73877410
not artistic enough

(unless speed metal)

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>>73877498
not master race enough

>>73877410
thats for playing fast

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>>73877510
ma nigga, let's start an nsbm band

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>>73877563
ok as long as my turkish neighbor gets to sit in on sundays

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>tfw pick up the classical guitar and play bossa nova for the first time in a while

>>73877664
how to into bossa nova

i can play a bit, it's so relaxing

how to into the picking, is there more than one way to get that bossa nova sound?

>>73877664
>tfw pickup classical guitar and remember its missing 2 strings
>put new strings and try to play bossa
>you can't really

>>73877691
mostly right hand and dat muscle memory for weird chords

just learn songs from the internet

>>73877713
i can play and sing "wave"

>>73877713
soloing over it as well is great
how do i play this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLU1BY77cMM

what scale bro

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guitar is dead

pic related is the future

these quint sevens will confirm

>>73877740
i'd rather sing desu
i always end up playig boring derivative solos :(

>>73877777
I already know I'm going to a Kpop thread I don't know why I'm bothering.

>>73877771
guitars were never alive to begin with
checkm8

>>73877731
https://55chan.org/mu/src/1490490513292.ogg

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>>73877811
dublahs cornfurm

>>73877740
single pickup? who in the world buys such waste?
also
>brand name inlay

>>73863955
Pieces of toothpicks in the hole works.

>>73877821
this doesn't sound very good anon you better keep practicing

>>73877842
who cares how do i play the thing god damn

>>73863006
I haven't cleaned it since I got it in 2007

>>73863006
>cleaning your fretboard
the dirt adds CHARAAACTAH

>>73862684
classic vibes squire strat

>>73862684
pacifica 112
hands down best all around starter guitar i've played

>tfw didnt care about guitar and music when won a guitar around 12

hows the timing lads https://youtu.be/XOLORvoQu_U

>>73879059
aka insufficient training

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>>73863955
use the original strap buttons
buy two beers

>>73879151
>tfw 9 begging parents for a guitar but it takes about 3 years to happen

>>73879574
fuckin torture them

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>>73879574
>tfw you were begging since you were 5 and it took until you were 17 and had a job and your own money to buy a guitar off craigslist

I'm totally not bitter at all about the fact that I could've been good by now with the help of a teacher when I asked for it but instead I'm almost 19 and shit at guitar because I have to self learn since I can't afford lessons

starts at 57"
https://youtu.be/H5iWVPxSyzc?t=57

>>73879670
i would kms if i were you

>>73879789
https://youtu.be/evqnvQhf79o

>>73879802
I truly think about it everyday, anon

>>73879834
dont worry i do it too
you still can slave your life away and pay whores with whats left

1min
https://youtu.be/vm8ZBhsUzOA?t=60

NEW THREAD

>>73879877
>>73879877
>>73879877

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thoughts on john mayer

you like guitars?

>>73879977
yeah

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>>73879996
me too

>>73880010
fuck off animefag
https://youtu.be/phyqYbmiWUo

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>>73880105
I'd be so happy if I could find a non-lewd Yiu pillow to snuggle with at night ;___;

>>73880162
post sfw pics

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>>73879934
>TFW you can't help making those stupid faces too.