/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

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>>73839424
>How will I ever receive all the hate?
>>73839640
>Gets the hate he requested but doesn't appreciate or understand it.

>>73837056
lol

Are there any guitarists who play with fingerpicks on an electric? I just went to a bluegrass festival where all these banjo players were doing crazy shit with fingerpicks and I can't find anyone who doesn't just use them on acoustics. I remember seeing this really fat black dude who played blues with fingerpicks on all of his fingers but fat black guys who play the blues are everywhere.

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Who /flamenco/ here?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFF7fhSflIA

>>73840270
check out Rob Bourassa on Youtube. He has his own style of picking where he only plays with fingerpicks exclusively.

>>73840270
>>73840310
like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwTszcBOKeg

>>73840270
...because electric guitar is a monophonic instrument, retard. There's one output where all the notes you pick are summed up to.

Banjo and acoustic guitars are polyphonic. When you pick a note and then pick a lower note ..the lower note wins on an electric guitar. You only need one pick for one note at a time.

That's the reason you don't see electric guitarists using finger picks. Because they'd also have to wear a pointed hat if they did.

>>73840398
then explain chords

>>73840398
>electric guitar is a monophonic instrument,


What the fuck am I reading lmao

>>73840505
Not him, but youre retarded

>>73840566
>not him
okay Crazyaga we all know its you. You can put the trip back on.

>>73840398
Can you play multiple notes on it? Each with it's own different timbre and envelope? Then it is Polyphonic you fucking asshat.

>>73840398
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkCAvW6Rsvo

>>73840398
you are literally probably retarded

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>https://twitter.com/bbqdbrains/status/883777229250904065

Nick Reinhart playing his version of Orange Crate Art. Pretty different from his normal music so I thought it was worth sharing.

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Where my drone bros at

https://clyp.it/3xmwbvu0

>>73840505
>>73840558
>>73840596
>>73840674
It's an electric instrument, sorry. When the entire signal is summed up into one electrical current it's monophonic by definition.
>>73840596
>Each with it's own different timbre and envelope?
No. When you play one note and then another the two notes are summed up into one. There's one signal going to your amplifier, one overall envelope, no matter how many notes are played.

An electric guitar is a monophonic instrument, it's not up for debate.

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>>73841763
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how sound works, goddamn dude

>>73841763
Nice troll Roman, this is a new persona?

>>73841763
So all polysynths are actually monosynths?
Are you a retard or just trolling?

We're not ucking talking about the electric signal, we're talking about about the timbres and envelopes that you hear at the end, because by your logic, there can be no polyphonic instruments at all (wave summation, in a medium such as air), or at the very least ALL RECORDED INSTRUMENTS BECOME MONOPHONIC, sorry to break it to you Buddy, but you're fucking dumb.

>>73841794
No, I don't. You apparently do though.

Since you're a guitarist I'll explain it to you as simply as possible so you can understand though.

It's the same principal as a mono synth with multiple oscillators. Each oscillator is tuned to a different pitch but when you press a key they're all summed up into one signal with one overall envelope. This is exactly what's happening when you play multiple notes on an electric guitar. The individual notes are still present but summed up into one mono signal.
>>73841872
#1. Yes, we are talking about the electrical signal.

#2. Yes, genius. All recorded music is monophonic until its formated for stereo sound.

#3. You obviously need to educate yourself on how sound works. You may speak again afterwards.

>>73841947
Directly quoting Wikipedia:
"Polyphonyis a property of musical instruments that means that they can play multiple notes simultaneously. Instruments featuring polyphony are said to bepolyphonic. Instruments that are not capable of polyphony aremonophonicorparaphonic."
And
"The electric guitar, just like the classical guitar, is polyphonic, as are various guitar derivatives."

You're fucking wrong!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphony_and_monophony_in_instruments?wprov=sfla1

>>73841947
What about when it's recorded with a stereo mic...

>>73841982
No, I'm sorry.

When you play a note on an electric guitar and then play another note the second note doesn't get its own individual envelope, it modifies the envelope already present because the individual notes are summed up into one electrical current.

In order to be polyphonic each individual note would require its own individual envelope, which is what happens on a poly synth. When a key is pressed that note gets its own envelope and when the next key is pressed it gets another one.

Once again: electric guitar is a monophonic instrument, it's not up for debate.
>>73841993
It records to two individual mono tracks or is summed up into one mono track.

>>73842077
fuck off frank

>>73841947
>>73842077
You are mixing the 'synth definition of polyphony' with the 'normal definition of polyphony'.

In order for a synth to be considered fully polyphonic, each oscillator needs its own separate filters and amplifiers. Paraphonic synths can play multiple notes simultaneously, but the notes are all sent through a common filter/amplifier.

Guitars are not synths. They can sound more than one note at a time, which is the normal definition of polyphony.

That said, it was good bait.

As much as I like Rush after learning a bunch of their songs I'm starting to see they aren't as amazing

>>73842154
>Guitars are not synths
Electric guitars and mono synths share a mono output with all individual notes summed up into one signal, sorry.
>They can sound more than one note at a time
They can't. Just like a mono synth can't.

The signal going to the amplifier is a mono signal and none of the notes summed up in that mono signal have their own individual envelopes. What you're describing is an acoustic guitar not an electric.

>>73842287
>autism

>>73842309
OK, now that you've lost the argument I guess it's time to start calling names? That's hilarious.

Let's continue your little spanking, shall we?
>normal definition of polyphony
When multiple notes all share one overall envelope like they do on an electric guitar signal then there's one overall attack, one overall decay, one overall sustain, and one overall release. The electrical output is monophonic and that's why none of the individual notes have their own envelope (ADSR). That's the textbook definition of a monophonic instrument despite your embarrassing attempts to redefine what polyphony actually means.

>>73842287
A paraphonic synth can play more than one note, but it is not polyphonic by the synth definition. A paraphonic synth is also not strictly monophonic, since it can play more than one note at a time.

By the normal definition of polyphony, a paraphonic synth is capable of polyphony.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVdSQWGm53I

This clip is of a paraphonic string synthesizer.

No one calls electric guitar paraphonic, but it is why distorted harmony guitar parts sound different compared to playing multiple parts on one guitar.

Guitars are not 'synth polyphonic', but they are definitely polyphonic. They can play chords.

>>73842452
>They can play chords.
*yawn*

So can a three oscillator mono synth when you tune each oscillator to a certain note and press a key.

Once again: electric guitars are monophonic instruments, it's not up for debate.

>>73842451
>The electrical output is monophonic

Monaural is a separate concept from monophonic, even though both terms are shortened to mono.

>>73842502
An electric guitars monophonic output is one continuous electrical waveform on an oscilloscope. There aren't individual notes present there just like there aren't individual notes present when that same signal shows up at the input of your amp.

An electric guitar is a monophonic instrument.

>>73842536
Polyphonic sounds can be represented by one continuous electrical waveform on an oscilloscope.

>>73842502
you both are correct. The term can refer to either of those. basically as one channel or as single melodies.

>>73842536
kay.

>>73842569
No, they can't.

One individual waveform is monophonic. When you pluck multiple notes on an acoustic guitar each note is an individual waveform traveling though the air.
>one continuous electrical waveform
One as in mono, as in monophonic.
>represented
As in a representation, as in a depiction. As in a monophonic representation of a polyphonic instrument.

>>73842077
But when you share the VCA and or filter of a synth between different "voices" you do run into an issue of not having different envelopes per note, but each not played on an electric guitar doesn't affect the others (so long you don't have interference from feedback and such other fringe cases).

>>73842651
Are fucking retarded? Even if the oscillations aren't summed electrically, they'll by summed in the air, otherwise how the fuck do you sxpain phasing??

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>>73842651
>Being this fucking stupid
The human eardrum only detects one compound wave dipshit. By your logic, everything is monophonic.

>>73842808
>but each not played on an electric guitar doesn't affect the others
Except they do, and you can see it on an oscilloscope. Which you would know if you had any idea about what you're talking about but you don't.
>>73842823
>they'll by summed in the air
>>73842848
The average guitarist everybody. Halarious.

But no, a polyphonic instrument is capable of generating individual waveforms and an electric guitar is not. Piano? Polyphonic. Saxophone? Monophonic.

An electric guitar has one output and an electric guitar amplifier has one input because its a monophonic instrument. Hence why you have to split the signal somehow if you want more than one sound at a time out of an electric guitar.

>>73842848
Just to be clear we're not talking about the human ear, we're talking about the output of an electric guitar being monophonic. Can it generate multiple wave forms? No, it can only generate one at a time and that's what makes it a monophonic instrument.

>>73842889
Then explain the difference between polyphonic and monophonic octave pedals.
>implying your warped logic will hold up.

https://clyp.it/lwyg11ua#

Reposting this cause of no answers.

Is this decent improv?

>>73842936
lmao, you just admitted you don't understand how those pedals work at all.

It takes the mono input and shelves certain frequencies digitally and then it assigns pitches up and down for those frequencies. That's why they all sound "synthetic" and unnatural. The speed at which they can manipulate those frequencies is dependent on the digital processor and that's why pitch shifters have improved over the last decade or so, because the tech required is now small enough and fast enough to pull off a relatively satisfactory sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXpEwH4T3cw

rate my tone.

>>73842953
>https://clyp.it/lwyg11ua#

Pretty good but really short, imagine if you were playing live. You would have run out of ideas by the first minute. My limit has limit has always been 10 minutes, if you can keep coming up with new shit for 10 minutes you're good to go.

Improvisation is like the tide of the ocean or the flow of the river, it must exist like a timeless source of energy otherwise it's exposed for the temporary falsification that it is.

>>73842889
>An electric guitar has one output and an electric guitar amplifier has one input because its a monophonic instrument.

Once again, monaural is not equivalent to monophonic. A polyphonic synth's output can travel on a monaural cable to a monaural amplifier.

Would you also argue that polyphonic synthesizers are actually monophonic?

>>73843044
Thanks, that's a good point. I could definitely go on longer, maybe not 10 minutes yet, but felt that a quick clip would be easier to "rate".

>>73843074
I only say ten minutes because at that point you can pretty much play in any situation that would ask you to improvise. 5 minutes is a good goal if you haven't improvised live too much. Recording yourself for long periods is always good, you start to notice where you're lacking and where your strengths are etc...

>>73843047
A polyphonic synthesizer can generate individual notes, yes. Is the signal going to the amplifier polyphonic? No.

An electric guitar is monophonic because it can't produce individual notes at all. An electric guitar pickup has one output. An electric guitar pickup can't produce more than one sound at a time.

>>73843095
>Is the signal [from a polyphonic synth] going to the amplifier polyphonic? No.

Okay, champ.

>>73843095
Just to be clear, you can play multiple notes on an electric guitar and acoustically they exist but electrically they don't because they can't.
>>73843114
That's correct. The signal going from a polyphonic synth is monophonic. It could be in stereo if you have the option.

Not sure what's confusing you about this. You could be recording an entire orchestra with a single microphone but guess what? If you've recorded to one track its in mono! The signal you recorded isn't polyphonic! Can you believe it?!?

>>73843095
If I multiplex a data bus is it now mono?

>>73843175
I multiplexed your Moms data bus last night and now I have Mono.

Does that answer your question?

>>73843218
Why would you do that though, she's fat, old, and has various viruses

>>73843232
I did it for science and a crunchwrap supreme.

>>73843028
>transformer Oct-up
>digital
Pick one

Or
>octave divider
>digital
Pick one

Are you fucking dumb?

Don't feed frank/roman. He knows he's a dumb shit.

>>73840422
lol this one right here

>>73843353
>frank
elaborate

>>73843094
how do you improvise for 5 or 10 minutes without getting repetitive

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good morning gg

>>73844030
Listen to Frank Zappa's guitar albums.

>>73844040
BR?

>>73844181
ys

guitar noob here. got new strings, g and b strings produce no sound from the amp. help pls.

>>73844510
post picks pics

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I want to make this sound like a Gibson ES 335, what do I need to do to make that happen?

I've already ordered new pickups, SH-55 Seth Lover's, is there anything else I need to do?

>>73844980
curious to what you decided about the seth lovers microphics

>>73844980
Replace all of the electronics.

>>73844990
i second this
CTS pots and ceramic caps for maximum 335 tone

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>>73844988
excuse me? why did i pick the seth lovers? from what i've heard and read, they are the closest to PAF humbuckers without paying the price for legit vintage pups

>>73844999
you were to buy another pickup, you said didnt want the seth lovers cos they arent wax potted

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Does anyone have experience with Rickenbackers? I can't between a Rickenbacker 330 and an American Tele...

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Noob bassist here, just started a month ago and have a couple of questions.

Are the strings too hard to press or am I being a bitch? Doing scales on the 3rd-5th frets makes my hand hurt, regardless of how relaxed I try to be.

Also, whenever I play a thicker string, some of the thinner strings vibrate and I can hear it on the amp. Is it normal? Do I just need to mute better?

>>73840398
you are literally slow, please hand your laptop/pc/phone/internet accessing devices to your nearest landfill site so you can never make a post as thick as this again

>>73845064
that's what happens when you read too much into what people say on internet forums.

i spent all day yesterday, legitimately 10 hours, watching every video i could find on the pickups i was looking at. I narrowed it down to three: Gibson '57 classics, Seth Lover's, and Pearly Gates.

Seth Lovers were designed by the guy who made the original PAF Humbuckers, so I figured that was a safe bet. if I have to replace the electronics (CTS pots, ceramic caps, as mentioned by >>73844996) then I will, but i didnt plan on doing that myself. there's a local guitar tech that will help me out with all of that stuff

desu, i'm clueless about electronics, wiring, etc. so i defer to people more knowledgeable than me

>>73842183
:(

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>>73845149
>Seth Lovers were designed by the guy who made the original PAF Humbuckers
theyre made to the specs of the original seth lover's project. the PAFs produced after were different than the original project. just a little historic fact

CTS pots and ceramic caps are the best options of pots and caps but really they only have a change (if any) to regular cheap ones, when they are below 10. unless theyre really bad and draining something from the signal

you might also want it wired like 50's wiring, the wiring that was used on old gibsons.
its supposed to change the tone a tiny bit compared to modern wiring, and you want that to sound like an ol 335.
it also affects the way the tone control works - if the volume is anything below max, the tone will first take off something around the midrange, and only really take off the highs when its really low. it's great for achieving cleans; you lower your volume a bit, then you lower the tone and it cleans the distortion even more.

this pdf talks about les pauls, but the hardware part is the exact same http://www.singlecoil.com/docs/paula.pdf

>>73845317
>you might also want it wired like 50's wiring, the wiring that was used on old gibsons.
i'll keep that in mind, what if I want it to sound less like a classic ES 335 and more like a modern one? or at the very least get as close to the sound of one that I possibly can.

>>73845317 (You)
also the 50s wiring causes the volume to not roll off the highs so much by itself, which is really nice and makes it more useable

>>73845351
then you put duncan 59s/some gibson humbuckers and wire it with regular wiring

>>73845397
last question, i saw that new models of ES 335's have Probucker's 1 and 2, the epiphone I bought comes with Probucker's 2 and 3 but sound like absolute shit -- at least the bridge pickup does. would i be better off with Probuckers 1 and 2, or the Seth Lovers?

>>73845136
>am I being a bitch?
yes

>some of the thinner strings vibrate and I can hear it on the amp. Is it normal?
considering you're a beginner, yes
try to use your thumb and part of your picking hand to smother those awful sounds

like you said, strings in a bass are way thicker: that mean their resonating vibration will affect any other nearby string, that's why a good muting technique is key when playing the bass

eventually you will become more and more skilled and your muting will be on spot

more experienced players use something like a flat styrofoam, or some kind of velvet-ish fabric to smooth the sound: but you don't want to do that yet, because this way you will never learn from your mistakes

If you can't play fast, you are not good at guitar.

>>73845593
your playing is incredibly sloppy (just finished watching the KISS cover you did recently and the Bach cover); but with more practice you'll be able to clean that up.

idk, it just feels like your timing and sense of rhythm is really really off. Not crazyaga bad; but still needs some serious work.

>>73841763
I'm an electrical engineer, audio engineer, luthier, and guitarist. You are a complete moron or an excellent troll. Consider your debts fulfilled.

>>73846135
And I'm a billionaire with a 30 inch cock and two blondes giving me a rim job as i type this

Me:
>>73846135

>>73841763
>>73841794
>>73841863
>>73841872
What is happening here is that this fellow doesn't understand the difference between the various meanings of "monophonic" in different contexts. The original discussion was about monophonic as in monophonic/polyphonic music, not monophonic/stereophonic musical signals. It has 2 different meanings, and you actually are retarded for not realizing that.

>>73846153
lmao you use all your money and dick to get someone to stick their tongue in your ass?

>>73846208
>still trolling at this point
>>reddit.com might be the right place for you.

>>73846391
It's the ultimate dominance over a bish
letting her eat ur poo particles and butt pubes

>>73845718
maybe it sounds so sloppy because its mixed with the camera audio.... is it as sloppy on this clean recording?
https://clyp.it/mf3ybbqg
ah the fast runs still sound sloppy and with some burred notes to me

which song is the bach cover?

thanks for the criticism, guess i'll keep practicing to a metronome and working on playing cleaner and tighter

If you can't identify the bpm of a song by tapping your foot and counting, you should kill yourself.

If you've ever needed to practice to a metronome instead of just listening and repeating what you've heard, you should kill yourself.

If you can't identify strumming patterns on the first listen and repeat them, you should kill yourself.

>>73846732
i can do the second and third but hows one supposed to know how many bpms is some speed if he never played to a metronome; you kill youself

>>73846732
>not using a metronome
>having the same accuracy as a Quartz oscillator

>>73846732
>strumming patterns

this is the easiest

>>73846732
>>73846932
some strumming patterns are complex and there is no way they can be picked up within first listen

>>73846945
throw me some. I can't prove I can pick it up at first listen, but I can tell you if I underestimated some songs.

>>73846732
every single musician palys with a track beat, everyone knows this

you should kys, lefty

>>73846732
If you can't identify pitches without any reference or sing notes on command you should also kill yourself. Or at least consider doing something other than music.

>>73847100
>doing something other than music
>doing music

KYS
Y
S

>>73847039
How do you know he's lefty?

>>73847138
you can smell that typical leftarian sense of superiority miles away

>>73847262
ironic

>doesnt do spiders and scales on a longscale bass
>doesnt strum chords and do bends on acoustic
>help /gg/ ive been playing for 10 years and still not gud :^( please help meeeeeee aaa

>>73847262
Oh, I thought you meant left handed

I really get tired of the guitar. Equal temperament is a lie, and frets are really a perpetuation of this myth.

>>73845541
if you can play fast but you can't play with your notes sounding clean and defined,you are not good at guitar

>>73847363
1 finger per fret on the bass is a meme

>>73840161
Is it bad for pedals if the power is constantly on? I use a power supply and a daisy chain cable, should I unplug that over night/when it's not in use?

Can you show me some Hi-res acoustic guitar records. Torrent or slsk would be fine.

>>73847447
Go get a meme microtonal guitar, enjoy the lack of chords and harmonies.

>>73845541
definitely agree, im only just starting to get consistent speed after a year and a half of non stop practice, and i definitely have a ways to go, i hate people who say ''you dont need to play fast''

no you dont need to, but you cannot truly call yourself a guitarist if you cant access the full range of abilities needed to use the guitar to its full capacity
>e.g trem picking at 300bpm

>>73847573
Not the best thing you could do IMO, but I don't think the impact is THAT big.

>>73847573
It's not bad, but it's not good either. More things can go wrong by having it on rather than off. I use a power brick with a switch on it to make it easier to shut down.

>>73847573

i unplug mine but I don't know if it really does anything. I just unplug the main 12v one and leave the rest plugged into the box.

>>73845541
>>73847484
It's not how fast you play. It's how well you play fast.

guys I've learned the entire beatles discog where do I go from here

t. 1 year since picking up the guitar for the first time

>>73847860
learn it backwards

>>73844204
kys

>>73847294
>>73847371

both

>>73842498
>it's not up for debate.


he says in the middle of a debate

>>73848157
get fucked right handed untermensch

>>73845465
PLS HELP

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where can I find a kingston sd-40?

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Anons do I do it for $180 He had for $300 a month ago.

>>73848357
in the trash next to everything steve vai and guthrie gocuck have ever done

>>73846135
lol

Feel free to refute anything I said anytime. I'll wait.
>>73846208
>The original discussion was about monophonic as in monophonic/polyphonic music, not monophonic/stereophonic musical signals.
No, it wasn't. See >>73840398.

The original discussion was about electric guitar being a monophonic instrument which it is.

But like I said, feel free to start refuting anything I've said at any time.

What frequencies can I boost to get closer to an Orange sound?

>>73848213
It wasn't a debate, it was me explaining how guitarists don't even understand the basic principles of sound or the monophonic nature of the instrument they play.

FYI

>>73848527
All the mids. Every last one of them.

>>73847656
>>73847659
>>73847678
Alright, thanks guys. Better save than sorry on this one I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG2C4hqiHxE

I highly recommend everyone give this a watch.

And stop trying to play like Allan Holdsworth :P

>>73846794
can you count to 60? nevermind; dont answer. i know you can't.

>>73846732
i'm fucking retarded when it comes to strumming patterns ugh

>>7384840
but can you djent?

Music Theory is for plebs

>>73849017
It really is

>>73848695
Don't tell me what to do, faggot!

>>73849017
>There are no rules. I think it’s funny when people take all these music theory classes, it’s exactly that. It’s theory. You have twelve notes, the thirteenth one is the octave, do whatever you want with them. It’s really that simple. There are no mistakes! - Eddie Van Halen

>>73849185
>what is A,B,C,D,E,F,G

7 notes idiot

how to play guitar ghee ghee

>>73849251
What is the chromatic scale?

>>73849185
There it is straight from a Guitar Gods® holy mouth.

They called the EVH guitar tone his "brown sound" because Van Halen songs made people shit their pants when they heard his guitar.

how often do you guys change the strings on your acoustic? bought this new acoustic and it's been a few months, doesn't sound as good

>>73849370
the way I do it is change one string every day that way once every week none of the strings are more than five days old

>>73849185
>>73849351
this. only idiots refuse to learn when a master like evh speaks

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/gg/ really is the fucking worst.

It's just beginners who know nothing arguing with retards that think they know everything. Every. Single. Thread. Shitposting in moderation is a given but you window-lickers jump on the chance to prove that "you know better" by taking the bait and running a fucking marathon with that shit, stamping out any and all actual discussion on this tard-forsaken forum in the process.

I'd be better off going to the zoo to start an actual discourse about guitar since the monkeys there don't fling shit nearly as much as you all do.

>>73849485
>tfw my comfy home

>>73849485
lol
>filthydumbnewfagscum.jpg

Will they ever learn, senpaitachi?

>>73848399

i kinda like the shape but that pot right under the cap looks so damn ugly and out of place, I can't get over it.

other than that, sorry, never played one of these, no idea about its quality. i wouldn't pick one up simlply out of principle, because I hate whoever designed this fucking pickguard.

what are the flaws of justinguitar

>>73849344
I'm gonna download this image when I get home and put it into my blue balls folder, /gg/.

>>73841541
God Damn this is beautiful bro

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>>73849017
>>73849036
>>73849185
>plebs
>not understanding music theory

jesus fucking christ here we go again. Plebs and retards don't understand what Music Theory is because they assume it's a road map where you can look at how music works and become a better songwriter.

When people want to learn "Classical Harmony", or "Jazz Harmony", or anything of the sort -- plebs take this to mean "oh, you just want a paint-by-the-numbers guide for how to make music" -- NO. WRONG. When someone wants to learn "Classical" or "Jazz" harmony, they want to learn COMMON PRACTICE techniques and methods to determine what gives that particular music its sound. End of story.

That knowledge then gives the student more ideas to play around with entirely at their own discretion. I didn't learn music theory because I wanted to learn how to write in Sonata form, I learned music theory because understanding how the music we listen to works is one of the keys for creativity.

Ultimately though if you don't know how to play an instrument, none of that is going to do much for you. For example: I can learn about all of the specific pentatonic techniques found in blues music, all of the ways bends are utilized and shit; but that doesn't mean shit if I'm not somewhat competent at the guitar. And guess what helps with competence of the guitar? Music lessons, which deeply involves theory.

>>73849662
I visited Justin one time and I read, "never barre scales." Think of all the guitar players who will now never barre scales, even when it's appropriate. Does he say stuff like this all the time? I have no clue. Is he otherwise a good teacher? I don't have enough exposure to judge.

>>73849800
>Jimi Hendrix didn't know theory
>EVH says don't bother
>some ja/gg/off in a guitar general on 4chins says otherwise
lol

Oh my, who's advice will I heed? Such a conundrum!

>>73849907
Hendrix did know theory though, he just didn't read music.

You're a fucking moron.

>>73849907
This is a stupid comment. Congrats, you've missed the entire point to my post! Funny how a guy like Eddie Van Halen, a guy who practices scale runs for 6-8 hours a day, says "don't bother with theory". lmfao, that's rich fampai

As for the idea that Hendrix didn't know theory? Mostly bullshit; but also entirely irrelevant. I included Hendrix's album art because it hits on the fundamental idea that I was arguing: music theory isn't about learning how to write music, it's about learning COMMON PRACTICES among artists / musicians within certain styles and understanding the different techniques they employed. Then, when you look at the broader picture, you can see trends in the development of Western Music throughout history such as the V-I cadence. This is literally no different than being samuel and learning KISS covers all day. Which -- to no one's surprise -- manifests itself in his playing. Whether you're just copying some tunes you hear on YouTube, or attending a lecture, you're learning music "theory" just by engaging in the creation of music, understanding how it works, and attempting to replicate its effects. That experience is unique to everyone; but it is no doubt real.

>>73849970
>>73850213
>Hendrix couldn't read music
>but knew theory
lmao
>couldn't read or write
>but knew grammer

Yeah, and someone who couldn't add or subtract knows mathematics, right?

You idiots are too funny.

>>73850280
this is obvious bait

don't respond to it folks

>>73850280
>you have to be able to read sheet music to know theory
lmfao. someone's retarded.

Tell me: if Hendrix didn't know theory, how did he know to play an F major solo over The Wind Cries Mary, a song in F major?

>>73850288
It's not, you just don't have a legitimate argument and you don't want anyone else to engage because you're upset you got owned.

Oh well.

>>73849800
> For example: I can learn about all of the specific pentatonic techniques found in blues music, all of the ways bends are utilized and shit; but that doesn't mean shit if I'm not somewhat competent at the guitar

Blues is not music theory

>>73850322
because he is the god of guitar and didnt know music theory

>>73850322
You just said he didn't read music, therefore he didn't know to play an F major over anything. He didn't even know what an F major was according to your own statement.
>he didn't know
Read it again, maybe it'll sink in this time. He didn't know music theory. He FAMOUSLY didn't know.

>>73850418
lol ok

>>73850386
yes it is

Hendrix absolutely knew theory. The only thing he didn't know was how to write music on the staff. You absolutely cannot be a session musician and not understand scales, chord harmonies, extensions, and basic theory. I have seen this misconception over and over again and it seems to stem from two places:

A. an interview where Hendrix is asked if he can read music (the subtext being: notes on the staff) and he says no

B. Frank Zappa saying in an interview that Hendrix was "musically illiterate" (once again, the subtext being that he could not reproduce his music as notes on the staff)

Once you take these misinterpreted comments and add them to the internet, you suddenly get thousands of guitar players (who desperately want an excuse to not learn simple things like scales and chord harmonization) spreading the falsehood that "Hendrix just played maaaan, he didn't bother with learning theory".

Even the tiniest bit of research into Hendrix's life and music career shatters this. Its one of the many exaggerations that builds itself around legendary people who passed away too soon: "Hendrix was musically illiterate, Zappa said so. Hendrix was just THAT good, he heard it all in his head, he just KNEW music!"

Hendrix was backing up the Isley Brothers, Sam Cooke, and many others. The rest of the rhythm section was not going "Yeah Jimi, just play what you feel, don't worry about, you know, the actual chords, harmonies, and all that other bothersome stuff that the rest of us have to worry about, just play what feels right."

Thats laughable.

>>73850451
>You just said he didn't read music

Reading music is not the sole purpose of music theory, you retard. The ability to read notes on a staff actually has very little to do with music theory and it's something you learn in 5th grade -- or at least I did anyway. I don't know about you.

There is no way in hell Hendrix could have backed up famous popular acts of his time as a rhythm guitarist and not known theory.

And as for the answer to my question: Hendrix knew to play F major over a song in F major because he understood what sounded good and what didn't. Even if you want to make the case that Hendrix wasn't some student at Berklee, he still understood concepts in music theory which allowed him to play in key, and allowed him to write music the way he did.

You're just stupid.

>>73850484
>>73850536
No, I'm sorry.

If Hendrix couldn't read music then there's no way he could know music theory. In order for him to know music theory the he would have been able to tell someone he had soloed in F major over a song in F major but he couldn't because he had no idea what an F major was at all.

Was Hendrix utilizing music theory? Yes. Died he know music theory? The answer is no. Just like an illiterate person utilizes grammar but doesn't understand it

You're wrong, Hendrix never knew any music theory.

>>73850484
>>73850536
He could play by ear

>>73850605
*utilizes grammar when speaking

>>73850605
>If Hendrix couldn't read music then there's no way he could know music theory

lol what the fuck am i reading. he played for years in big bands, you can't get a job like that without knowing how to at least read chord sheets

>>73850665
Once again: wrong. Yes you can and he did.

Sorry.

>>73850605
>In order for him to know music theory the he would have been able to tell someone he had soloed in F major over a song in F major but he couldn't because he had no idea what an F major was at all.

[citation needed]

show me proof that hendrix knew music theory

>>73850735
show me proof he didn't

Guys, I'm trying to learn how to tremolo pick or do alternate picking at high speed, but I'm not sure if the way I'm holding the pick and my overall hand positioning is good enough.
Can someone post a video of someone playing with positionings that you consider best or right, if there's even such thing?

>>73850705
you have absolutely no idea what is required to play in bands like that because you're a bedroom hack. they would have fired his ass on the first day if they gave him sheets and he didn't know what to do.

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>>73850484
you copied and pasted this from reddit faggot

>>73850708
>>73850751
Hendrix was famous for not being able to read or write music. No ability to read or write music = no knowledge of music theory.

He could speak, yes. Read or write down his words? No. Therefore he couldn't have any understanding of mechanics it grammer, it's impossible. Utilising something is not the same as understanding it.

>>73850823
>No ability to read or write music = no knowledge of music theory

you're a bit touched aren't you?

>>73850799
redditor confirmed

edit: wow my first gold

>>73850794
Ah, now we're already at the "name calling" phase of your failed argument I see.

How entertaining.

>>73850823
>Hendrix was famous for not being able to write music

Actually, the opposite is true.

Michael Jackson didnt know music theory

>>73850853
awww did i hurt your wittle feefees? you don't get jobs like that by winging it no matter how good you are

>>73850835
See >>73850853
>>73850862
I get it man, now you're pretending you were retarded to attempt to save face.

It feels good that the best you could come up wasn't anywhere near close enough to actually pull it off.

>>73850823
Not being able to read notes on a staff doesn't mean Hendrix didn't know theory. It would have been literally impossible for Hendrix to not know theory based on his experience on the chitlin circuit.

Your trolling is lazy.

Holy shit, you guys sound like a bunch of faggots arguing.

>>73851004
that's what happens when summer comes around and all the lazy 16 year olds start posting that force this meme that hendrix just winged it throughout his entire career

Hendrix played by ear so when he heard a scale he could copy it

>>73850839
>>73850949
>>73851003
>>73851013
lmao
See >>73850958.

Your Special Olympic "gold" is waiting at the door, Anon. Take it and head on back to where you came from.

>>73851039
shouldnt you be playing xbox or something?

what's the easiest Hendrix song to learn?

>>73851003
>Not being able to read notes on a staff doesn't mean Hendrix didn't know theory.
That's exactly what it means. Thanks for playing though.

>>73850536
Berklee is for fucking faggot wannabes though

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>>73851072
literally retarded

>>73851071
The Wind Cries Mary

>>73850823
8/10 bait

>>73851088
See >>73851039.

Let me know when you're done with your autism replies now that you're all out of legitimate arguments.

>>73851072
Funny how the guy who doesn't know music theory doesn't know what it is lmao

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>>73851127
>reading music is music theory

>>73851119
I'd love to see someone who can't read trying to explain the mechanics of grammar. Know? No.
>>73851137
See >>73851127.

Do I need to start counting your autism replies now that you've exhausted yourself?

Is there any pedal that can change the harmonic/overtones of a note or chord without changing the fundamental frequency? I could have sworn I've seen something like that before, maybe it was a synth module though.

>>73851185
See >>73850280 >>73850823.

We've already been over this. 1 autism reply.

So according to this retard, Stevie Wonder has no fucking idea about music theory?

Because you know, the guy can't read sheet music either,

>>73851195
>someone who can't read trying to explain the mechanics of grammar

Idiotic example.

Better example: If you don't know how to spell, do you still know how to talk? If someone shows me how to play a major scale on guitar, is the absence of a musical staff disqualify it from being a lesson on theory? If someone is demonstrating the relationship between half steps and whole steps in a major scale on guitar, does the absence of sheet music suddenly not make it "music theory"?

No. Your argument, like you, is retarded.

>>73851239
i get the feeling you have no idea how to read musical notation either lol

where can i find some good blind boy fuller guitar lessons?

>>7385125
>splitting hairs in an attempt to avoid the argument
Too funny.
>>73851264
Yes, you can still talk. Do you understand the mechanics of grammar? No. Could Hendrix play? Yep. Did he know music theory? Nope.
>>73851280
lol

2 autism replies

Hendrix was a pleb anyway

>Muh pentatonic licks

BORING

he made music for people who can't play guitar

>>73851013
>hendrix just winged it
Well, he did Little Wing it that one time.

>>73851349
and he was also a nignog, which makes everything worse

>>73851264
>If someone is demonstrating the relationship between half steps and whole steps in a major scale on guitar, does the absence of sheet music suddenly not make it "music theory"?
No, no more than someone speaking a sentence is a lesson in the mechanics of grammar. Imagine an immigrant learning English and learning a new phrase. Does he know grammar after her learns the phrase? No. He knows the phrase.

Once again: utilizing is not the same a understanding something.

>>73851319
But you didn't answer any of my other questions: if you show me how to play a major scale on guitar, is that theory? If you show me the relationship between half steps and whole steps in the major scale, is that "theory"?

>>73851422
No, its not. I've already explained this to you. Utilization is not the same as understanding.

>>73851418
>No

Actually yes.

We're done here.

Hendrix knew theory, QED

Fact:
Even Allan Holdsworth didn't know theory

Fuck music theory I just wanna know where can I find some Piedmont blues guitar lessons?

>>73851483
Piedmont conservatory of faggotry

>>73851450
>picking up your ball and running home crying like a bitch after I knocked a home run across the park
lol

He didn't and now I know you understand that he didn't, which is awesome. Thanks.

>>73851497
>Piedmont conservatory
gay response

Neither Paul Gilbert nor Billy Sheehan know any music theory

Steve Vai has absolutely zero knowledge of music theory

>>73851499
>He didn't
Yes he did. Unfortunately your argument hinges on the "well if it's not sheet music, it ain't music theory!" definition which literally no one but you believes.

Hendrix knew music theory. You may not want to think he did; but he did. This stems from your asinine idea that music theory = knowing how to read sheet music. That's not what music theory is, and because you don't know what music theory is, you lost the argument. Tough, I know; but you have to learn one way or the other.

Hey, just for a few laughs, why don't you tell us -- in your own words -- what Music Theory is. Go on, I'll be waiting

>>73851448
you don't even realize how fucking stupid your argument is. you first say reading and writing music is music theory, and then you relate this to immigrants learning a new phrase in a language they do not know. ok? do you think they never understand what that phrase means? are you fucking retarded?

>>73851217
I have no idea what you're talking about, but check out the Harmonic Perculator clones.

Guthrie Govan says he couldn't even play
smells like teen spirit before he ditched music theory

what are some good jazz albums to jam to?

>>73851746
>Jazz
Pleb music theorist detected.
Go learn some faggy add7%9 arpeggios m8

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>>73851769
>being so mad you lost an argument on /gg/ that you start shitting on people who like jazz
lmfao senpai

>>73851637
He couldn't do something as rudimentary as read or write music but somehow managed to acquire something more advanced like music theory?

No, he most certainty did not. You don't have an argument.
>>73851641
>you first say reading and writing music is music theory
Nope, I never said that.

But it's cute watching you both reach for straws and trying anything to avoid the actual discussion being had.

>>73851071
51st anniversary, manic deppression except for the solo

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I'm just now getting into playing guitar and I wanted to see if I could learn the basic chords of "Ode to viceroy". Is this something you get better at because I feel like this is physically impossible for me to play. I can't reach that far and apply a good amount of preassure

>>73851898
>Nope, I never said that.

See >>73850823
>No ability to read or write music = no knowledge of music theory

lol autism etc

>>73851898
We're waiting for your definition of Music Theory.

>He couldn't do something was rudimentary as write music
Oh, so those aren't his songwriting credits on his albums? Was there another "Jimi Hendrix"? Perhaps hidden on the grassy knoll?

>You don't have an argument.

My Argument: "due to Hendrix's experience, his understanding of popular styles at the time which he emulated, and Hendrix's start as a rhythm player on the chitlin circuit, Hendrix would have undoubtedly understood theory, and this further shows itself in his music"

Your argument: "IF HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO READ NOTES ON A STAFF, HE DIDN'T KNOW THEORY!"

One of these is not like the other.

>>73851925
you will rarely if ever need to play stretchy chords like that. don't focus too much on weird things that are rarely used.

>>73851925
thumb on back

>>73851940
I hate to tell you this but if you don't know enough to read music and know what you're reading then you definitely won't be learning any theory.

I never once said reading and writing music was music theory, they're three different things that all require the other to function.
>>73851962
We all get it man, you lost the argument and now your shitting all over yourself and slinging it at the wall hoping something finally sticks.

Hendrix preformed and played music, he didn't write anything because he didn't have the ability to. Understood theory? No, he didn't. Because He couldn't.

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you guys like what I've done with the place?

>>73852126
>all this backpedaling

kek. you don't need to understand how to read notation to know A C# E is an a major chord and A C E is an a minor chord.

i feel like i'm arguing with a 12 year old retarded version of myself

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An honest look into the psychology of Samuel Campos:

Today, i am going to discuss Samuel's behavior in regards to my music and my musical ability (it's music related, so don't ban me mods).

When samuel saw the famous picture which shows a collection of "embarrassing" things i have done in the past, and when he heard im gay and israeli, he felt like im everything that he finds to be detestable, so he started to harass me. that's how his primitive mind works - he thinks harassing others elevates him, he even admitted in a previous thread that he thinks bullying is "an act of domination".

But when he saw me posting my music, and when he saw people actually saying they love my music, he became truly obsessed. it created a classic scenario of cognitive dissonance - from one hand, i symbolize for him everything that he sees as socially detestable, but then he sees that i actually composed music that people seem to love.

Maybe even he himself found enjoyable qualities in my music, which made him bully me even harder, and trying to devalue everything i made. he started coming up with completely made up criticisms in order to deal with the cognitive dissonance that is bothering his mind (we all know his criticism are bullshit, he criticized my music for not being complicated enough for him while he listens to Kiss, who make music that is even more simplistic than what i posted here)

And this is how Samuel will respond to this psychological analysis:
A small voice in Samuel's head is probably whispering: "You know, crazyaga is right". and Samuel won't be able to accept it because it contradicts how he defines the world and how he views himself. so he is going to keep bullying me and keep the obsession.

It's also likely he is going to make a bunch of samefags ridiculing this post to make himself feel better. it's actually kind of sad

>>73852233
>ban is lifted
>starts shitposting instantly
Don't worry little jew you'll get seconds if you keep asking.

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>>73852233
oh christ this fucks back again?

>>73852287
Don't worry, i won't come to /gg/ too much anymore.

Dealing with a person who is truly obsessed with harassing me is not good for my mentality. and i mean he wants me gone too, right? i see no negatives.

I might still post every now and then, but not as much as i used to.

>>73852233
The only enjoyable qualities of your music is how laughable it is.

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>>73852332
As i predicted.
You work like a clock

>>73852198
You're right, you can memorize the notes and not know the names and theoretical relationships which is what Hendrix did.

Unfortunately your argument is based on Hendrix "knowing" which he most certainly did not.

lol, looks like you're all done. That was fun.

>>73852233
Imagine how completely and utterly smashed his ego must have been to be waiting a 3 day ban to come back and post all this shit to 0 people who care. I almost feel bad for the little jewboy

>>73852364
I just wanted to give Samuel a chance to reflect on his own behavior. he probably won't listen, but i gave him a chance.

I feel like Samuel is not the person he wishes he was. do you really think Samuel is happy being obsessed with a random israeli posting in 4chan?

Aniway, i won't come here too often anymore

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>just wanted recommendations for guitarists who use fingerpicks
>250 post about MUH POLYPHONY and people having the same fucking argument trying to justify their lazy ass not learning theory
Jesus christ, sorry. I'll ask again, who are some good players that use fingerpicks on an electricguitar?

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>>73852346
I'm no samuel though.
Seriously dude your improv was just full on out of key. And it was in A minor, which is a super easy key to follow.

>>73852426
I used some good finger picking on your Mom last night.

>>73852468
i didn't realize they made finger picks that small

>>73852436
That improvisation was not taken too seriously and the guitar volume is way too low.

And the "out of key" parts were intentional (there are like 1 or 2 obvious mistakes but im not talking about them).

i could keep the entire solo in pentatonic A minor like Samuel did, i didn't want to though. i wanted to make something different.

I don't even think that improv was bad. i mean, it wasn't the best i could do, i actually still really like it. the low guitar volume doesn't do it favors tho.

If you want to hear an actual song i made:
https://soundcloud.com/matanken/the-way-the-earth-circles-aroud-the-sun-makes-me-feel-dizzy

>>73852476
Good thing they pulled you out her ass when they did or it wouldn't still be so tiny.

>>73852523
what did he mean by this

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neo 4chan doesn't know what bait looks like no matter how obvious

>>73852585
Nice way to dodge my arguments

>>73852509
>That improvisation was not taken too seriously and the guitar volume is way too low.
That's not an excuse. Any decent player can play an actual solo with phrasing over A minor.
The "out of key parts" aren't parts, they're about the three quarters of the "solo".
And there's not even a dash of phrasing in that solo, it all sounds like random drifting notes with no closure whatsoever.
Grow a pair of ears.

Someone told me to burn it down.

I'm tryin' hard, m8.

>>73852654
>The "out of key parts" aren't parts, they're about the three quarters of the "solo".

Want to bet that over 90% of the notes i played are on key? I incorporated some off key parts on purpose. it's true there were also a few sloppy mistakes in that solo tho, that's a valid criticism. but the solo is definitely drifting off key intentionally.

>And there's not even a dash of phrasing in that solo, it all sounds like random drifting notes with no closure whatsoever.
Maybe you think that because the guitar volume was way too low.

you should really listen to the original piece i shared here instead of judging me based on a solo i did in one take

>>73852722
If it's on purpose it sounds like shit.
If it's not, it still sounds like shit.
And no, there's not a hint of phrasing, nothing you do follows the chord progression or the rhythm in the slightest, it's all just a bunch of "cool guy bends" which are barely in tune.

I don't give a shit about your pieces, but if you barge in a thread and expect everyone to choke on your cock for something that sounds like guitar center on a saturday afternoon, you're bound to catch some shit.

>>73852773
I did not expect anyone to choke in my cock. if you think my half-assed solo was the worst thing you ever heard in your life i don't care too much desu.

I just don't like how you judge my entire ability as a musician based on that solo, and i also did not like that it made you think i don't know how to stay on key

>>73852773
And btw, you are much more likely to hear something like Samuel's solo in a guitar center afternoon due it being a generic solo that sounds like every rock song solo ever made.

It wasn't even a bad solo, samuel did a great job, it was just generic and unexceptional

>>73852810
>>73852828
you've been jerking off your little ding dong over the fact that you've proclaimed yourself as "the grand winner of the debate", got yourself banned for basically shitting up the thread and harassing someone else. three days later you come back, and you're still stuck on that while even less people than before care.

and yet you still find the nerve to try to pass yourself as the victim

no one cares about how original a solo is if it expresses nothing and vaguely drifts without any aim.

>>73852878
Hey man, if you don't like my solo that's cool.
most people didn't like it except for one random guy who liked it more than samuel's solo.

To me the aim and melody of the solo sounds very clear, but i mean that is entirely subjective and its just what i think. if you hate it i don't care since it was an half-assed solo aniway

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Hey crazyaga, if you're such a fucking hotshot then name one (one) electric guitar player who uses fingerpicks

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>>73852984
Idk i mostly just listen to the music, i don't look at what they use

>>73851576
>>73851613

bullshit

pure manure

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Aniway this is my last post in this thread, at least for today

I will be here in /mu/chella: >>73849372

If you want to hear blueprints of my music: (it's all blueprints until i get a proper amp and microphone. but "The way the earth circles around the sun makes me feel dizzy" is a very good blueprint, listen to that)

https://soundcloud.com/matanken

>>73853053
its true though

>>73850451
You can know notes without knowing how to read it on sheet

>>73853103

No. Music theory is analysing and building your own concepts of what is aurally pleasing and what is not.

Allan Holdsworth documented it himself.

Satriani was classically trained.

Steve Vai was Satriani's student.

Gilbert knows all about music theory and he's given several lessons on youtube, in fact all of these guys have.

Why god, why must you allow shitposters to exist :'(

>>73853100
Dude you can shut the fuck up as well, you are a narcissistic piece of shit.

>>73850213

dude you're totally on point, fuck these trolls in their gay little asses.

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>>73853193
>I like my music, and i saw that many people love my music too. but if you don't like it, it's all cool man

>"CRAZYAGA!!!! HOW NARCISSISTIC OF YOU XD"

I haven't done anything remotely narcissistic. you are just being silly right now.

Ok this was the real last post, promise

>>73853193
yes. satriani and vai said so themselves

All these famous guitar players listed as not knowing theory is bullshit but you can't get through retarded teen autists' thick heads on /mu/

>>73853193
>Dude you can shut the fuck up as well, you are a narcissistic piece of shit.
just report him, at this point it's advertising

reminder that bach never knew music theory

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>>73853250

kek

I PUT MY BALLS IN YOUR MOUTH YOU TROLE

>>73853226

>>73853250
But hey, thats just a a theory
A GAY THEORY

>>73853225

>Using a trip
>Jumping to a narc conclusion of why I'm labelling you as a narc. And then engaging denial.
>Constant samefagging
>Never contributing helpful advice
>Constant cries for attention regarding inane subjects
>Unwilling to take onboard the other's point of view (shit solo, obscure pedals, music theory).
>Top 1% IQ

I only started coming here like 2 weeks ago. I am well justified in describing you as I observe you, gay jew.

>>73853325

ok I take back the part about the gay jew, the rest is true though, think about that.

>>73853325
Damn, i thought i made a closing argument. you are now making my break my promise.

Let me respond point by point:

>using a trip
Not narcissistic

>Jumping to a narc conclusion of why I'm labelling you as a narc. And then engaging denial.
You can't throw out an assumption and then assume im saying it's not true out of denial. you have to actually listen to my arguments
>Never contributing helpful advice
I gave advice to beginners many times in this thread, i helped someone find stainless strings and i also gave various advices
>Constant cries for attention regarding inane subjects
I don't cry for attention, i'm just responding to your posts
>Unwilling to take onboard the other's point of view (shit solo, obscure pedals, music theory).
I'm always willing to take on board your point of view - as i did. i said that i liked my own solo despite the low volume and few mistakes, and i also said that if you didn't like it's all cool. i objectively took your point of view into account.
>Top 1% IQ
Not narcissistic. narcissism is overestimating yourself. but what i said about my IQ is objectively true and i've been tested several times. saying objectively true things is not narcissism buddy

I hope this is a sufficient closing argument, i don't want you to make me post again

>>73852233
You're spending too much time on what other people think. Instead, play your guitar.

>>73852509
Good tune. Honestly, better than rehashed blues licks for th umpteenth time. It gets distorted a couple of times, though. Not the good kind of distorted...

>>73853470
Who's even left?

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>>73852233
>double dubs
>he spent time writing this all out

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list of fa/gg/ots that ruined /gg/

>shoegayz offset numale hipster fags
>"le brutal xd" meal manbabbys
>irrelevant wankshred wannabe autists
>noob squire poorfags
>dadrawk blooze buttrockers
>contemporary homojazzualz
>queers obsessed with worthless/useless theory

did I miss anyone?

>>73840161
Anyone know any surf rock style guitarists that use a guitar with humbuckers? I need to not feel so bad about getting an HH Squier Strat.

can extended chords be used as a replacement to a normal chord?

ex. G to CM9

>>73853423

that was absolutely hilarious, thanks and have a good night.

>>73853519

yeah, your mum.

>>73853519
>did I miss anyone?
yes

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>>73853553
>yes
dude is that a Jojo reference?
Lol I love roundabout

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>>73853470
>poodleboard fags
>pedalphiles
>wack stack jacks
>headroom cases
>DIY please die
>selfie shits
>tripfags

>>73853519
See
>>73853587

>>73852509
Dude don't take your improv skills too seriously. You are a far better song writer than a mere guitarist turning tricks. You don't have to be good at improv to be a good musician. And maybe improv isn't really your thing, it's really not mine either. I prefer listening to genuinely good songwriting. Bangers. I mean, I guess improv is fine for stoners and jazz hipsters, but fuck em

>>73853529
no

hee hee hee

>>73852233
>>73852312
i wont harass you anymore if you stay, crazyaga

>>73853642

its a trap

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>mfw I laughed hard af itt

I always do.

>>73853654
no, seriously :^)

So I have a really old Gibson bass with an issue. The higher I go up the fretboard on the low E string, the sharper the notes get. Playing open, it's a perfect E, but playing on the 17th fret, for instance, is a super sharp A. Anything past the 12th fret is unplayable just because it's so out of tune. Any advice/fixes?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA

>>73852562
>>73852523
BTFO

>>73843042
How are we supposed to rate the tone when you record it with a cell phone

>>73844980
Ok.

1. Sell the guitar
2. quit being a poorfag
3. buy a 335

>>73850484
lol this is either the best trolling i've ever seen or you hsould kill yourself.

>>73853663
I wish John Frusciante really posted in these threads

Man... wouldn't that be great

>>73852312
>Dealing with a person who is truly obsessed with harassing me is not good for my mentality. and i mean he wants me gone too, right? i see no negatives.
>He says as his first post after his ban is him obsessing over Samuel

Is rob chapman a bad guy

>>73853983
He's an autist super fedora

He looks like he smells of cheese

He can't make good music, all he can do is plank wank

He's a scam artist and a conman selling Korean made cheap guitars to dumb cunts

He's also a white man with dread locks... what the fuck do you think?

>>73853983
bad guitarist
bad teacher
bad brand owner

only good at gaining popularity on social media

Is varg vikernes a bad guitarist

>>73853983
hes a virgin

>>73854072

>>73854072

>>73854072

>>73854072

>>73853738
shit in your hand and rub it on your chest

>>73853738
move your saddles further from the nut