/prod/ - Music Production

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How can I record noise music from mixing board to PC without overloading my computer? I don't want to break anything.

Side note, I've been doing no-input, but I'm looking for some interesting distortion and a pink noise generator, any recommendations or good sites to discuss noise/FX pedals?

>>73645859
just use an interface

>>73645818
Are those kaossilator things actually good? Looks pretty meme-tier to me.

>>73645859
I have a torrented copy of FL studio, I meant I don't want to blow my sound card

>>73645984
Well what sorta gear do you have? You can simply let everything clip in a mixer and dial the master volume down.

>>73646036
I have a Mackie Mix 12FX, so far I've been doing that. Just didn't know if that was sustainable, and with additional gear, I wasn't sure if it would be too much. Thanks though, I can keep this up for a while then.

hey, my first time posting on this general.
looking to start producing my own beats, im planning on actually creating a instrumental EP of some sort.

thoughts on this? preferably in the mixing
https://clyp.it/bjk3uwi0

>>73646128
Ideally you want to overdrive the inputs of the mixer, and keep the output at a normal level.

>>73646235
Yeah that's what I've been doing
My master stays super low, no-input goes really loud

>>73645818

composed, performed, produced, mixed and mastered by me.

https://clyp.it/qdqpmxqq

https://clyp.it/osqpkn1v

https://clyp.it/f03tf2hk

Feedback is welcome.

>>73646235
Side note, while it goes really loud, it's still fun to spike it and throw something that loud into the loop.

>>73646322
Hate the gunshots, and the classical samples feel pretty forced
I would also recommend lowering your voice if you can, it feels a bit like you're pushing a normal yell into a scream and it doesn't quite work for me
The mastering and production are good though

>>73646322
thats crazy man, congrats

>>73646322
Shockingly competent. Maybe layer some more guitars to give off a heavier sound if you want.

>>73646186
The vocal samples are really nicely cut up and sound great, but the clap, cymbals, and shakers are super glassy. I don't know if you want to err more standard trap, but my tastes lean on the vapor side, and I think those vocals could work really nicely if you stretched and fuzzed the aforementioned percussion.

>>73646322
the lead/solo guitar on tracks 1 and 2 doesn't sit very well in the mix.
turn it down a little (prob like 3 db). it might need a hint of reverb/delay as well if volume alone doesn't make it gel.

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so i did some bass whatever quick with DAW, it´s been a while since ive done stuff and i dont wanna pretend to be some sorta special snowflake but feedback would be neat

https://clyp.it/2r5eqj1y

id wanna have fun creating this time instead of feeling like its a work or a bore

>>73646322
that´s one way to say you dont have friendslol

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>>73646466
start by putting this on on your kicks at the very least.

also, mono your mix and check that you're not phasing out with that stereo'd kick.

the rest of it i'll leave to someone else.

>>73646466
The notes around 0:48 feel out of place. The drums fade in nicely, and it sounds good once they do, but it doesn't really fit with the beginning. I think maybe if you added some really sparse or quiet percussion at the beginning to set it up it could work, but the beginning sounds too droning for the rest of it, I think the way it fades out works better because you aren't throwing anything new in that hasn't been established as a possibility.
Overall I like it, anon.

>>73646376

You don't like the sample in the front with the war stuff? I hear you about the voice, but that is the style. I should have clarified that it is not me singing. It is my friend from another band.

>>73646385

Thanks man!

>>73646389

Thanks dude. I usually would layer multiple guitar rhythms, but I was going for a bit more raw feeling for this band.

>>73646442

Hmm. I was having a hard time with this. The track is doubled, and panned 50% l/r. I think what I may do is automate a reduction in rhythms or perhaps sidechain some compression on the rhythms to help the guitars.

>>73646479

Haha but I do have friends!

Which VST is the best for cheating musical theory? Like detects you the scale of a MIDI, identifies all resonating chords and so on?

>>73646563
>I think what I may do is automate a reduction in rhythms or perhaps sidechain some compression on the rhythms to help the guitars.
you might be overthinking it desu. just turn it down a little bit. walk away from it for a day and come back and hear it.

>>73646602

good advice. always sage.

the leads are sent to a common reverb and delay, so that is already handled.

as a lead guitarist it is very difficult to turn down leads haha.

>>73646563
I dunno, maybe the samples just aren't for me. I like that shit in power electronics, so maybe something that's less gunshots and more yelling?
Overall it was good, definitely think you've got some good shit going

>>73646621

thanks man.

i'm working with another guy who is doing vocals and lyrics. the sample ideas are his input. he sends me youboob vids and i chop them up and imagineer something useful. overall, they fit the subject matter of the song.

i'm more on the fence about the trendy 808 hits, but the kids these days like that sort of thing.

>>73646186
Mix wise, pretty good, but its very repetitive arrangement wise.

>>73646322
Good shit dude.

>>73646466
Seems like the entire thing is run through a phaser.

>>73646583
I don't think this exists, learn theory.

>>73646698

thanks man.


if any of you want these .mp3's shout out your disposable email.

>>73646408
thanks! how could I do that?

>>73646698
thanks! it's really just an idea, im looking to getting more creative with the samples

>>73646738
I'm not that experienced with this sort of thing, it isn't really my area, but you should be able to fuzz them with a simple EQ adjustment and stretch them by holding the main track tempo and slowing the BPM

>>73646186
your sub bass has a fundamental of 30hz and no(? is it just a sine) harmonics. that's a little bit too low, m8. the vast majority of systems won't be able to reproduce is properly.

>>73646782
I see, I can do these kinds of stretchings, ill try to work on this
>>73646788
I guess the sub bass you're hearing is from the actual sample, i didn't add any cause i could not figurate a good melody to go with the rest of the track. thoughts?

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>>73646522
since we are talkin plugins you know if nicky romero or the infected mushroom app is worth gettin, probably gonna be doin vaporwave next so dont really need that shit yet but i can download your app and check out what its good for. Thanks for the rec

>>73646532
could as well just build a long intro to the next beat usin synths so that when theres that stale section in the end i can already start introducin next beats synthline, it should be easy to mix

anyway i liked the idea you had over mild percussions, that could really diverse the overall loops and make it more interesting
i´d like to check out your stuff too if you got it ITT

>>73646819
sounds like a subbass synth to me, m8. going from a B0 to F1.
kicks in at 10 seconds.

>>73646322
top tier stuff
would listen/10

>https://clyp.it/osqpkn1v
I don't like some aspects of the mix. the intro needs better mid/side balance, piano/strings/choir is crowded in the middle. Vocals sound great, but maybe too loud in the mix? or Guitars need to be wider/louder.

>https://clyp.it/f03tf2hk
same vocal/guitar comment
sample sounds kinda loud

>https://clyp.it/qdqpmxqq
same vocal/guitar comment

>>73646828
I'm >>73646532, I'm not that into beat prod yet
Made some lo-fi memes a while ago, I could probably polish one up
I'm actually the no-input noise guy here >>73645859, so that's what I've been doing lately

But yeah, if you build it up to the more complex shit it could be a really strong part of a song, I like where you're going with it

>>73646828
>since we are talkin plugins you know if nicky romero or the infected mushroom app is worth gettin, probably gonna be doin vaporwave next so dont really need that shit yet but i can download your app and check out what its good for. Thanks for the rec


are you sure you quoted the right post?
if so, i wasn't referencing the EQ specifically, more that you need to roll back the bass on the sides of your mix.

>>73646864
I just looked in the project, thats a subkick, sorry m8
ill try to mix it in a higher frequency

>>73646871

Thanks man, excellent feedback.

I think for the final mixes the vocals will come down a bit, rhythms up a bit, solos will be reduced and rhythms ducked slightly during solos.

I agree with the comment about the crowding of the piano/strings part. There has always been something there I haven't liked. Will have to rengineer it.

>>73646906
you don't necessarily have to change it, but just be aware that 30hz fundamental is extremely low. stuff all the way down there can work as a weight layer, but usually there's something on top.

>>73645982
those are kaoss pads, they're the effects ones. kaossilators are the synth ones.

i like my kaoss pads, i think they're fun and the effects are decent sounding, don't know what about that would be "meme-tier"

>>73646956
how do I change the frequencies of a certain sound? Is it possible?

>>73646698
>I don't think this exists, learn theory.
I have a melody and am in the moment right now, I dont have time to analyze
I know there is Mozaic Beats AutoTheory, but no cracked version unfortunately available

>>73647025
how does it work? you seem to know the basics of theory

>>73646998
What do you mean, like an EQ?

>>73647060

just use your ear dude. you won't be able to "cheat" theory. You should just program individual notes to get the hang of it.

that's the cool thing about using a daw. you can throw shit at the wall, see what sticks. if you don't like something it's easy to change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRqNjtqccPA

how do people perform entire live sets on modulars? is every song/sound already patched up and just waiting for their turn with the sequencer?

>>73647105
well, I guess.. lol I don't know man

>>73646998
pitch up/down to keep harmonic relationships the same.

frequency shifters will change the hamonic relationship (i believe) leading to dissonance.

if you want to add harmonic content, but have the sound in audio form (as opposed to it being synthesized) easiest way is just to layer on top of it. if layer over a low end sound (a) with another (sound b) grab a high pass and roll off low end of sound b, roughly where sound a's fundamental lies. frequency cross over isn't going to kill you, but in the low end you have to be careful or you'll end up muddying the sound, or at worst, phase cancelling completely.
also bear in mind that eq'ing changes the phase of the sound which, very rarely causes issues. most good vst eqs will have have a linear phase option at the expense of introducing some latency.

>>73647176

if you have access to the individual sounds eq would work.

for example, kick drum - say you slightly rolled off frequency at 50 hz, and increased at 80-100 for that impact.

if you try to eq the entire kit, it would affect all of the pieces.

you could also try changing your sample.

>>73647214
I see, thanks man. Never tested in a "real" sound system to see how it would sound

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i'm a beginner and interested in learning production through some online tutorials. i downloaded ableton and it says saving and exporting are deactivated because my copy is unauthorized. is there a way to get around this or did i download the wrong copy? sorry am total noob pls help

>>73647535
Ableton Live Suite v9.7.2 Incl Patched and Keygen-R2R

>>73647235

This is critical. Always test on multiple systems to get an idea of how your music interacts.

I suggest investing in a decent set of monitors with a sub so you can check your bass.

Theory about eq will go along way to help you.

>>73647535

either download a cracked version, or if that leaves a bad taste in your mouth download reaper and free vst.

>>73647566
>>73647601
w-where do i get the cracked version

>>73647647
https://rutracker
.org/
forum/viewtopic.php?t=5391171

>>73647647

search

>>73647566
>Ableton Live Suite v9.7.2 Incl Patched and Keygen-R2R

for torrent.

>>73647664
>>73647670
thanks guys sorry i'm retarded

>>73646698
>>73646583
>I don't think this exists, learn theory.
>????

ableton has a scale midi tool
reaper has... idk i think it cuts everything out of the scale off the piano roll

i thought that was standard in like every daw lol

just learn in though you lazy shit it's not that hard

>>73647535
You didn't activate it.

>>73646322
Why does this have so many replies lol

>composed, performed, produced, mixed and mastered by me.

you say that like it's not the norm at the amateur level lol

i only really noticed it on the 2nd clyp (didn't listen to the other two all the way through lol) but i think the panning/delays would be more interesting if they went a bit ahead of the beat

I know it's the norm to have fake sounding drums but the hats and crashes kind of give it away

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Hey so I'm this post >>73646877, just did a quick no-input improv session, had a lot of fun making it. It's probably pretty amateur, but if any of you are into noise, I'd appreciate a look, maybe some textures or moments you like? I know the frequencies go way high and cut out sometimes, and other times get real low and sound all farty, that's me being autistic and inexperienced.

https://clyp.it/ylejhn02

>>73646828
I dunno if you're interested in noise at all, but this is what I've been doing lately

>>73647793
i mean it's not like i can activate it if i got illegally right

>>73647856
Get a crack/keygen

>>73647664
is this safe <.<

I downloaded 8 5 years ago and have been dying to try max4live and get a 64 bit version but i'm too scared of getting a copy with a timebomb in it or getting a letter sent lol

>>73647839
A bit too earrapingly loud but interesting textures.

>>73647856
You can crack it and it'll still update.

>>73647804
>Why does this have so many replies lol

people like metal?

>you say that like it's not the norm at the amateur level lol

I was not seeking attention, after all everything about my post was anonymous. It was more about what level of production to expect.

>i only really noticed it on the 2nd clyp (didn't listen to the other two all the way through lol) but i think the panning/delays would be more interesting if they went a bit ahead of the beat

thanks for the feedback. will keep it in mind.

>I know it's the norm to have fake sounding drums but the hats and crashes kind of give it away

i wish i could play drums, but it's beyond my abilities.

care to post something that you have produced?

>>73647900
Ah, sorry, my volume is low, I'll turn the master down

>>73647878
i'll do something nice for you, wait 5 mins.

>>73647913
i'm sorry that wasn't meant to be an attack towards you man

it's good

>>73647839
on some death grips shit

>>73647878
Download Live from here:
http://cdn2-downloads.ableton.com/channels/9.7.1/ableton_live_suite_9.7.1_64.zip

Make a note of the installation directory.

Download this cracked exe:
http://www111.zippyshare.com/v/NR8ELPtg/file.html

Replace the exe in the installation directory with it.

Download this activator:
http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/RBehZ64r/file.html

and follow the instructions in the text file.


the cracking method for ableton changed slightly as of v9.7.0. previously you didn't need the 'cracked' exe

files uploaded personally.

>>73648028

it's all good bro. no need to apologize. you get used to explaining yourself on 4chan haha.

my advice towards anybody who is younger who endeavors to play metal or wants to be in bands is to be a fucking drummer that is proficient with technology haha. too many guitarists, singers, and bassists.

>>73648087
holy shit that's really nice of you 0_______________0

downloading now~~~

Anybody got experience with ipads for prod? Could get a good price for an ipad pro 9.7

>>73648618
can be a fun toy with things like lemur and touchosc, but it's a toy and doesn't even fully replace a real controller let alone a proper daw
pretty neat in some cases, though and can be fun to dick around with, I wouldn't get one for just that purpose though

>>73648087
hey thanks

>>73648087
w-what's the installation directory

https://clyp.it/0z1nbjnb
any feedback is nice, i feel like its missing something

>>73648833
C:\ProgramData\Ableton\

>>73648939

i kind of like it. not sure if this is what you were going for , but the disjointed nature of the loop could be distracting for some.

i think a solid "hit bass" would help create some cohesiveness.

>>73648970
>ProgramData
am i wrong for putting into program files for some reason?

>>73648939
Measure is trippy, love the experimental nature of it tho, probably needs a bass then youre good.

>>73649004
im trying to focus on the vocals part of it, but im always getting distracted by the beat, but i feel the beat needs an extra sound ya feel? whether it be a snap, crackle, or instrumental melody, i just cant seem to figure it out

>>73649033
doesn't matter where you choose to install it as long as you copy the crack and overwrite the original exe

>>73649070

maybe one more hi hat hit at the end of the loop to keep it moving. a little reverb on snare for some depth.

perhaps extrapolate some melody.

>>73649101
okie just checking :3

>>73649062
ill put in some 808 and see how it sounds, thx :)

>>73645818
Here's some maximalist shit I made in my bedroom with 8 bajillion synths.

https://clyp.it/wq55yeo4

Thoughs? Feedback?

>>73649122

interesting. makes me check my phone.

the more subdued parts remind of bjork.

>>73649113
i tried that, but then if i did, it would become noticeably repetitive, ill try to expand the melody but the 4-5-6-4-3-1-2 pattern is hard to add to especially if its made to loop

>>73648087
brought up command prompt in the middle of installation and i'm sp00ked now are you hacking me

>>73649122
Not bad but mix needs work, very abrasive, centered and in your face in a bad way

>>73649211

i get it. it's art. it doesn't have to conform to any body elses liking, or have to be "correct" in some fashion.

i like it the way it is. just throwing out what my brain would do.

>>73649222
yes. i have ur mum's recipe's now.

>>73649070
Just add a low, subdued synth there.

>>73649268
no no, its not necessarily that I reject change, or that i don't wanna conform to peoples liking, its cause if i was to change the pattern, i would change everything else, basically starting over, perhaps if i stuck with the same pattern but instead transitioned it into another melody through scales?

>>73649347
like a synth that creates an ambient feel?

>>73649330
>>73648087
installed on an old laptop (being a little cautious it's 4chan lol)

authorization worked easy install

thanks a lot for the upload man i've been wanting this for years (:

>>73649122
i like 1:35-4 minutes, it gives off a real nice video game feel, however the transitioning is sorta off and that sound thats coming from my right ear at 4 min, it needs one more beat to it and the end, when it goes ts-ts-ts----ts it needs 1 more

>>73649389
yes.

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>>73645818
https://clyp.it/bydimi0y

I'm trying to work on my songwriting abilities... I've been reading a book on composition and its kinda helpful.

This is something rather simple in all terms. As far as sound design, every part is basically just a 1 osc synth (some with white noise and an effect or two for flavor).

The structure of the song is just the old ABABABABABA. Let me know what you think. I'd consider this more of an exercise than anything. Hopefully this is a good way to improve.

>>73649486
What do you mean by transitioning?

>>73646583
Reason has a series of things, I think they call them "players" which make it pretty much impossible to make anything bad or out of key lol.

>>73649596
:34 needed transition, i dunno if thats what you intended but it certainly felt like it needed some build up

>>73649669
okay

>>73647902
not gonna lie I was on tilt after seeing this because I bought an OT last year, but after looking at the specs it looks like it's exactly the same, but with new hardware and more sampling headroom.

>>73648087
hey I installed this and was wondering if if includes max? i've sifted through all the folders and see some stuff in there but I don't know where to set the directory

https://clyp.it/pnfwuowj
Sampled some drums

>>73649568
i like the structure of this song as well as the melody changes, the pitch of it bein 2-1-2-3 w/ a raising scale(only in the beginning),
it feels nice
like it flows with no room for error

>>73649771
the build up left me with another beat in my head, perhaps something mellow but you made it jazzy, i like it, however i think at :16 its the wrong sound if that makes sense, like should be something softer but thats just me, dont take my opinion that seriously

I don't even know what this shit is, but I made it. Don't complain about mixing because I already know.

https://clyp.it/bydimi0y

Thoughts? Feedback?

https://clyp.it/5tou303v

any help please

>>73649931
this is actually pretty dope, sounds quite vidya

>>73649794
That's great to hear. Thank you very much :D

Btw if anyone's interested, the book I'm reading is the complete idiots guide to music composition.

>>73649166
I've actually never listened to Bjork. Should probably check out her discography some time soon.
>>73649250
Do you suggest that I pan more things? Because I haven't put an EQ on any of the instruments there yet.
>>73649960
Thanks.

>>73649931
You didn't make that, I made that!! See, >>73649568

I think you posted the wrong link lol. But post your stuff and I'll look at it!

>>73649960
Thanks :P

>>73650091

It was only one small part that reminded me of bjork in your song, but yeah you should check her material out for sure.

>>73650098
oh sorry, I must've not copied my link. Was wondering why >>73649960 said it sounded like vidya

https://clyp.it/zwsppaya

Good luck.

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>>73650139
Scary
Makes me feel uneasy

>>73650064
Might go to a local book store to see if they have this thanks!

>>73650139
I've listened to some Merzbow and stuff before, it definitely cleaned my ears out. What was your process in making this?

>>73650350
Its pretty good. I also like Harmony for computer musicians. (Although the of that one doesn't seem to know that electronic music is more than just house lol).

>>73650139
What'd you make this in? Sounds like unusually fleshy digital noise

Posted a version of this in an older /prod/, finally recreated it on my new computer with my samples properly organized

https://clyp.it/j3liely3

any feedback would be appreciated, it's pretty simplistic right now

>>73650321
That's what I was going for.
>>73650570
>>73650665
Made this in FL.

>>73649568
in terms of composition this is pretty good, nice job!

>>73651009
Ah, cool
It's nice

>>73649568
what is the book? struggling with making compositions good enough, just bites and pieces \i can't connect

>>73646583
Check out the cthulhu vst

>>73650064
>>73650570
>the complete idiots guide to music composition
Does it use regular music notation or it has explanations without it (like with just the numbers and maybe a piano roll)?

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>>73651332
This is the one. I find I have the same issue. I can make a short loop I like, and then I don't know what to do with it.

The tune I posted started like that actually. I came up with a loop, and then came back to it later and thought about something I read in the book. Namely, how can I introduce this loop/sequence?

Then I thought about cadences, "what chord is a perfect fifth away from the first chord in my sequence?". I found the chord, and it actually lead into my loop pretty well. So, I wrote the "A" part by starting backwards! The book has a few good tips like that.

>>73651498
Its all regular notation and focuses on classical composition unfortunately. If there were a book that explained this stuff on a piano roll I would get it instantly. Luckily, its mostly in the treble clef, so I'm constantly reading it like a babby "every...good...boy...deserves...fudge", and "FACE" lol.

>>73651580
Thank you.

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https://instaud.io/13oq

need help from someone thats good at mixing etc.
working on a track and it just sounds a bit off, but im not sure why or how to fix it.
any tips you'd give to fix this mix or is there any direction i should go in?
thanks

(also pls forgive my (very) terrible placeholder vocals (no lyrics etc yet))

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>>73650570
Hey I went to the bookstore and I found this instead lmao

>>73649101
how do you replace, is it just saving it as the same thing and replacing it?

>>73651776
I also saw the music composition book but I decided this might help me a lil bit more being as Im taking a bunch of college music composition classes

>>73650570
>>73648036
>>73647900
>>73647839
Did a second one I like better, any thoughts from y'all?
https://clyp.it/wopt3jbp

>>73651743

my advice would be to mute guitars and vocal, and mix the drums and bass together first.

then bring in guitars, panning left and right.

then bring in vocals.

this along with subtractive eq would help i think.

also, if the bass gets too out of hand you can carve a spot out of your kick drum, carve a spot out of your bass, and enhance the opposite in either track. this way they will sit better.

i would also personally duck the bass to make it more prominent without being overbearing.

>>73652069
thanks a ton, ill try all this out :)

>>73646322
>https://clyp.it/osqpkn1v
this is straight trash my dude.

seriously

switch genres metal is some trash.

>>73652213

sorry friend metal4lyfe 'n shiet

let's see what you have made..

>>73652235
>let's see what you have made..

oh shit he callin you out

>>73651776
well that looks pretty cool too. Also, last book recommendation. This is your brain on music by Daniel Levitin. He's a neuroscientist who used to work as a mix engineer for some pretty big names. Its a really interesting book, and some of his advice has actually changed the way I mix tracks oddly enough.

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hey guys, what do you think of the mix in this track? also feedback would be nice. Using Ableton Live.

https://clyp.it/n0exnmn2

>>73651791
you have to overwrite the original exe with the cracked one.

i don't think i've ever posted any of my own stuff in these threads, but i've decided i want to make generative patches regularly over the next few months so here's the first one:

https://clyp.it/3paghg5i

zero user inputs on this. reaktor blocks.

if anyone cares to look at the ens file i can share.

>>73652615
cant say much about the mixing but the general composition/song is kinda bland and uninteresting imo

i've been fiddling around with ableton for a while now

I want to buy some toys

what are the most basic, essential tools for IDM/ambient techno producton?

>>73652812
mouse and keyboard.

then a decent pair of monitors
then a decent pair of monitoring headphones
then a master keyboard if you can play

everything else comes later

/newbleep/

https://clyp.it/4uyuafpq

>>73652812
well what have you got so far?

i just tried making a few idm ish loops with only stock ableton effects and presets because i haven't fucked with them in a while and it was pretty easy

only things to be desired imo would be a really good reverb like valhalla or decent synths if you don't have them already

>>73652645
>reaktor blocks

that's a neat patch. I really like the idea of generative music but haven't really gotten around to it outside of randomly automating macros and making some randomizing shit out of sampler and guitar rig. have you tried other methods or is it mostly reaktor for you?

reaktor 6 was one of the only few things that was making want to upgrade to komplete 11 but i can't justify it lol

>>73653314
this is me
>>73652875

I have an akai MPK and a roland space echo
I was thinking more about KORDA volca bass, or some drum machine

my dream is a roland cr78

>>73653346
chill tune... though the snare sounds a little disruptive to me in a way

i'm all in the box so I can't really help you out if you're looking for hardware :p

hows the drums so far?

https://clyp.it/4zfyp45h

any excessive frequencies, or something that would make it clash with the full mix?

>>73653468
I can't mix, maybe I'm deaf to some frequencies
thanks for the input

>>73653480
sounds neat and crisp

I'm so frustrated, making music makes me hate it even more, damn im bout to flip this fuckin table full of overrated hardware

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I've just started to try and release some music, I've been just messing around with multiple DAW's for a while, but never had any experience finishing a project, heres one of my first songs. It is a sort of progressive electronic style beat with some added textures. I would love some feedback!
https://soundcloud.com/itsjustaburner/lukasz-mauro-probably-wrong


>>73646322
>https://clyp.it/osqpkn1v
Not a metal guy, but I would say that if the strings and other orchestral bits in the intro were a little less dry, the transition between the styles might seem a little less synthetic and maybe add a sort of ominous undertone (if thats something you were going for.)

>>73646466
>https://clyp.it/2r5eqj1y
I like the chord progressions you have here, id say maybe work a little more on the phaser, it sounds a little too "default".

>>73653762
>>>73646322(You)
>>https://clyp.it/osqpkn1v
>Not a metal guy, but I would say that if the strings and other orchestral bits in the intro were a little less dry, the transition between the styles might seem a little less synthetic and maybe add a sort of ominous undertone (if thats something you were going for.)

Was shooting for like a movie soundtrack sort of deal on direction from a guy I'm working with. I'm more of a guitarist than a soundtrack guy, so I'm not suprised it comes across as deficient or sophmoric.

Will be keeping your advice in mind along with the other feedback from anons today!

Cheers!

>>73653314
just reaktor for generative stuff.
i can't be bothered with going the max/msp route (and i'm probably not smart enough).

i'm going to try out the softube modular demo, but the pricing model on that doesn't really appeal to me.

the reaktor blocks user library is really something special though. a handful of very, very talented people have done really cool work there.

i do eventually want to sink a couple grand into a small eurorack setup in a year or so. this is just me making sure i can justify that cost.

>>73653923
also, you can rig up generative stuff in ableton via max4live devices, but the interface fights you the whole time. really not worth it.

this emulation of makenoise's rene is pretty rad tho:
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/4140/snake-v2

there's also a cartesian sequencer out there on max4live which is pretty cool, but has clock issues.

>>73653923
>>73654027

I just bought Max/MSP, man what a waste, I don't even know how to use this thing and where to find anywhere how to use it. I just messed with the BEAP modules and that was about it. Should've gotten Reaktor instead

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How to overcome Rhythm deafness? I don't want to play anything. I just want to have a fundamental understand of how to identify a reasonably complex rhythm and draw it in.

>>73654501

program some midi.

experiment with some different time signatures.

learn the concept of polyrhythm.

I tried to make something EDM-y. Minimal brostep?

https://clyp.it/kuo550v0

any thoughts are appreciated.

>>73654751
I program midi all the time but anything more involved than a straight swing will take like an hour to get right and more often than not I just give up because I lose track of what I was doing in the first place.

Also I have experimented with odd time sigs and just working within my abilities without having a vision. I'd say my problem is more related to tempo markings or getting the right swing.

>>73655167

An hour is nothing.

This is me:

>>73646322

One of these songs takes about 2 hours to sketch the framework, and then another 6 or so to get the fills and unique drum work.

Experience will help, having a vision would help also.

Keep at it.

>>73655325
your work reminds me of early BMTH

I like that
what's your rig/gear?

>>73655325
oh gee I had no idea. I wasn't looking for a shortcut. I just figured that I wasn't learning anything and maybe there were some exercises to do to develop a better sense of rhythm.

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Just bought a Push 2, good lord what a fun little machine. I haven't gotten lost in making sounds for hours at a time like that in years. 9/10

>>73646322
Fucking loved it

wtf why can I think of a beautiful image before I paint but yet I can't think of anything before writing music?

>>73646322
replying because everybody else is

i'm not digging these rhythm guitars sound. they're miked; i think i'll go back to DI'ing and amplitube.

https://clyp.it/tyzhobkt

>>73656015
why don't you di and REALLY reamp, dingus? fuck amplitube. do you want help with getting a good guitar tone?

How organized is your sample library?

>>73656096
>why don't you di and REALLY reamp

did you mean something else by REALLY REAMP or is one of us retarded

>>73656015
dude please write a different song already i've heard this shit too many times

>>73656173
very but that was after moving to a new laptop

organizing your shit and having a streamlined workflow is not to be overlooked................................,,,,,

>>73655495

what is BMTH?

For this recording it is Emissary VST and x50 VST with Lecab using two 1960 a with sm57 and a condensor. A little compression and a little eq.

For live I use a GSP 1101 and a Peavey gsx with a carvin 4x10 with some old ass celestions.

>>73655643

I still think that just doing will be the key. Especially since you already seem to have the tech know how.

>>73655836

Thanks man.

>>73655844

nice repeating integers.

>>73656233
the only band i can think of is bring me the horizon..?

>>73655107
cool song this is me >>73646322

>>73656233

sorry that was 120 watt peavey jsx.

>>73656295
that's not me wtf

>>73656295

that was not me.

i have actually replied and offered my thoughts on several songs posted here, so your bullshit is not valid.

>>73656337
stop trying to make me look like an asshole wtf is wrong with you

>>73656174
reposing from /gg/

first, let me apolozie for my formatting. i'm running on very little sleep. here's a link.

http://www.radialeng.com/reamp-basics.php

most people buy reamp boxes to do this, but for a demo or something, it doesn't fucking matter. if you're getting weird noise and it bothers you too much, buy a reamp box. doesn't make a difference most of the time, though.

record your di tracks. get them as tight sounding as you can. do not skip this step. this is the most important step. shit playing = shit recording. i assume you're using a usb interface. whatever it is, send your raw di tracks from your interface to your amp. do NOT fuck with your levels in your daw mixer. leave that shit at 0. if you don't know what i'm talking about or get lost, read up on it. look it up on youtube, google, bing, whatever fucking search engine you use. for the love of god, i can't explain everything to you.

anyway, next you need to get a good tone before you set up your mics. please get a good tone first. nothing pisses me the fuck off more than people recording shitty tones and then trying to fix them in post. it only ends in sadness and shame. after you get a good tone, start setting up your mics. are you recording a cab or a combo amp? i hate to tell you this, but it should only take ten minutes to find a good tone. if it takes longer, you fucked up and you will not be happy with anything. you will end up recording a shitty tone and trying to fix it in post. don't do this. please don't do this. it also helps to have a slave for this process, hehe.

stick your ear up to the speaker while your di track is blasting through your amp. listen for a thump. a loud thump. this is where your slave comes in handy because you sure as fuck don't want to ruin your hearing during this process. that thump is the sweet spot. in other words, this is the area where your mic will be.

if you know fuck all about mic placement, this is where you experiment and learn.

>>73656615
to simplify things, just go with what sounds best to you as far as tone goes because that shit is highly subjective. there are universally bad tones, though, and i'm sure you're intelligent enough to know what one sounds like. all you gotta do is press record once you have your mics set up. did i mention that you should be isolated from your amp setup? and use a good pair of headphones or monitors. this should be obvious. i'm sure i left some important things out, but whatever. i'm going to bed.

>>73656615

>shades of slipperman

>>73656654
is this an album?

>>73656615
>>73656636

uhhh i'm not the guy with the song, I know what reamping is but maybe he didn't lol

I was making fun of you because it sounded like you were implying there is such a thing as *fake* reamping :p
(aside from doing it wrong)

>>73656686

http://www.badmuckingfastard.com/sound/slipperman.html

legendary read

>>73656702
he's talking about fucking using amplitube to reamp his di tracks which is absolutely retarded and i do consider that to be fake reamping. my bad, didn't know you weren't him.

>>73656724
i'll bookmark it and check it out tomorrow. maybe. i might hang myself.

>>73656760
>which is absolutely retarded

but this method is so convenient

>>73656760
all good, maybe it'll help him

yeh that makes sense, i've just never noticed anybody calling that reamping

>>73656777
for demos....

eh i use it to experiment with new/experimental tones

>>73656823
>>>73656777 (You)
>for demos..

I dunno man it's pretty fucking good.

But I did ditch all my pirated software, so amplitube left. Free VST are a good option.

>>73656777
can't argue with convenience, but you're a lot better off reamping with a real tube amp (not trying to start an argument, don't take it personal if you like solid state amps). all those plugins don't get you cab res or power amp saturation.

>>73656809
what? i've ONLY ever heard of it as reamping. i do it almost every god damn day at work. you know what's really fun, though? reamping drums! it's so fun to do this on EVERY SHITTY RECORDING EVER! YEAH!

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>>73656173

>>73656877

For sure man the argument is tired. Not trying to argue.

I love playing a tube amp, but I find the digital stuff keeps you on your toes. It's especially good for metal stuff.

An interesting read:

http://geargods.net/editorials/why-solid-state-amps-are-better-than-tube-for-metal/

>>73656931
i don't have to click that to know how completely and utterly wrong this person is, but i will bookmark it and humor you when i awaken from my slumber tomorrow. on that note, i will say that technology has come a long way and you can definitely fake a tube sound if you try hard enough, and i've done it several times for fucking both terrible and great bands, but there's always that shimmery almost glassy sound missing and no amount of trickery will be able to replicate that. at least, not yet...but hey, that's my opinion. thanks for the future read, anon. have a great night.

>>73656877
>i've ONLY ever heard of it as reamping

WELL i've never read or been in a situation to talk about using amp sims :p

>reamping drums
underrated af. that+overcompression and reverse reverb i'm industrial bb

>>73657047

He makes some good points, but like I said, I will always prefer to play a tube amp.

Have a good night bro.

https://clyp.it/q1dsib5w

would appreciate more mix-centric feedback, i've made my mind up about most of the creative decisions

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You know, you could just use Guitar Rig

>>73656233
>tech know how

What gives you that impression? I don't even bother mastering or anything. Also I learned intervals and chords using some services on this site. If I hadn't grinded these intervals for over 100 hours I would be nowhere near as musically competent as I am now. So naturally I preferred something similar for rhythm.

https://www.musictheory.net/exercises/ear-interval

>>73657114
>https://clyp.it/q1dsib5w

I've got my guitar in hand with a vst host rigged up and this made me just literally start chugging body count style.

>>73657185
gang :)

>>73657369

straight west coast style yo

captcha : bannanas

Are there any good tutorials that show the creation of a song from recording to final mix, preferably in Logic?

>>73658089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ny4q2I3z44
It's seven years old but it's still good.
1.1 is just talking about templates and some of the episodes might be useless to you.
It's great ASMR though

>>73658191
Thanks

>>73654143
I don't think it's really that hard to learn Max/MSP. There should be plenty of resources available. It's probably not the best idea if you're just starting, but it's not really that hard. It's standard college student shit.

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Hi. I don't want to create music, I just want to mix tracks in order to "be" a DJ as a hobby.
How do I do it? Where do I start?
Is this the right thread to ask?

>>73659480
>hobby
Sorry man, its more than just being a hobby, its connection with the music and the people. You gotta start from the ground up, I was spinning the decks at 6 learning about the various genres.You work your way from the bottom learning from the underground dudes until you graduate to the big leagues and make made money like deadmau5, David Guetta, and Aphex Twin. Its impossible for you to get remotely good unless you started at a young age. It also helps that you produce so you can really put that soul into your music when your on those decks, its better than weed. Get lost kiddo, your nothing.

>>73659755
Dude, i've been around.
What i meant when i said "as a hobby" was to differentiate my post with the "i wanna be a dj and make mad bucks and get all de pusi".
I want to learn to mix so I can play for my friends at parties and shit. People around me usually love the music I listen to, and they always tell me to learn to dj so I can release mixes.
Also, I been messing around with DAWs and I have a friend that produces and plays live sets with Ableton Live, but production is not something that I would do, at least not right now.

I just want some sources for information, tutorials and the like for learning DJing from scratch, not a lesson on music values, passion, and shit. Fuck off with that.

>>73659755
Wow you make DJs look bad, not coming from the guy who wants to be a dj for a hobby

>>73659755
Next time you try to start a copypasta, at least triple the length

>>73659755
Embarrassing. I would advise you to delete this post, but it's well past the point where you can do that.

>>73659755
>>73659480
i'd go so far to assume that you posted that question just to make this dumb post

>>73660188
Not at all. I really want to learn. Is it that hard to get advice or a simple guideline as to where to start?

>>73660237
That guy was just being a faggot I guess
This thread has been a little troll heavy...

I had an old roommate who made some side cash as a dj and he showed me the software... it basically did all the work it was ridiculous. If that's the kind of thing you want just google for a "dj program" or whatever. Or try searching for a subreddit

If you want to really mash songs and dj as a musician pick up ableton and traktor I guess... not too sure if there's better out there.

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I wanna be crazy and trippy like lil ugly mane

https://clyp.it/s0t5dd5i

>>73645859
You should be fine with an audio interface.

>>73646322
Fuck dude. That must have taken hours. Do you have any band pages?

>>73646466
Giving me those 80's vibes. Some parts seem strange in the mix, and some parts are a little off time. Is everything quantized and shit?

page 10 bump

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Im thinking of popping out to get an MPK Mini MK2. I no longer have room for the piano in the same room as the computer, so I dont really have any controller at all here.

Bad idea?

Just a gentle reminder that Phil Spector wrote and produced a hit single at 17 and was riding his schoolgirl fucks round in a jaguar in the fifties

>>73662136
i've still got a mk 1 lying around somewhere.
thing still works, but i barely ever use it.
wysiwyg, so don't expect miracles.

>>73654143
i you haven't got any moral objections to grabbing a pirated copy, i'd say go for it.

it'll probably take you awhile to get used to the blocks workflow etc and you can have a better idea if it's even worth buying.

it's definitely not for everyone.

also, re:reaktor in general: the learning curve for it is as steep as max. blocks is just a small, but very powerful part of it that NI should just break out into its own product (the reaktor interface does hold it back a little).

however, even there, unless you're very familiar with non-modular synth fundamentals, it can be a bit rough getting into it - plus you then have to change how you think about the functions of even basic devices because they can be use them outside their traditional roles.

>>73663513
>because they can be used outside*

is this good weird or just pants?

https://clyp.it/5smz5zeq

>

Anyone got recommendations on decent music theory and composition books? I know the basic stuff like intervals, western scales and chords but that's pretty much it. I've read about counterpoint for a bit to know the basics but nothing specific

>>73663979
see >>73651580. Also, I like Harmony for Computer Musicians. That one does explain some concepts in a DAW piano roll sequencer.

what is a counterpoint

>>73664022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYouXtuk0T8

>>73663955
I don't think it's weird. More like random.
Not bad at all, though for all the changes I feel it kinda goes nowhere.

>>73664032
I've never listened to much classical music and I think this is completely fucking awesome. Have I been missing out?

>>73664061
yeah, the music itself and the theory aspect behind it is great and there is a lot to learn from it

>>73664032
two notes, like a bassline and a higher line?

>>73664221
counterpoint is basically 2 or more melodic lines played at once while still sounding harmonic with each other. bach was challenged by Frederick the great to write a contrapuntal song based on a theme he gave him and the absolute madman wrote a 6 voice piece for him

Posted here a few days ago asking for feedback. I tried taking what was applicable to heart, so I gave my the track a new mix and I would love some feedback. Tried making everything sound more intentional, creating more specific sounds. I feel lots of its soul died in this process, and that the new mix sounds less personal. Is this just me? Any other feedback would be good too. Know nothing about this stuff.

NEW MIX: https://clyp.it/cdgbcbem
OLD MIX: https://clyp.it/x30ubygk

>noise rock
>lo-fi
>spooky theremin
>some horn i cant play

>>73656015
someone help pls
how do i make these guitars sound good

here are the two takes that i'm currently trying to use. unprocessed, without my eq etc.
https://clyp.it/go2cezz3
https://clyp.it/adqqwr2y

>>73656724
i need to rethink my life if i sound like this guy. holy hell, he is one angry mama. interesting read because he clearly knows his shit.

>>73656931
just as i thought, this guy couldn't be any more wrong. his amp comparison list is where he lost me because a SLO is not a god damn copy of a Mark II. this dude clearly smoked his way through school.

>>73664279
Overall I think the new mix sounds a lot better and more full. The only thing I like more in the old mix (and this is just my opinion) is the claps. I think they have more high end presence in the old mix, allowing them to cut through a little more. For that noise-rock kind of sound though, its all good!

>>73664035
Not sure what you mean by random? But thanks for listening/replying.

It's a fresh idea from last night so got a long way to go before structure and flow are sorted.

(augmented triads r a bitch)

>>73664547
The melody is constantly changing without following a steady pattern and sounds are being added and removed through the song. A lot of quirky sounds as well, but not experimental enough to be called weird. Maybe unusual is a better word.

>>73664628
Ok, I got ya. Thanks.

>>73645818
Nostalgic/New wave music

Any ideas for improvement?

https://soundcloud.com/wavon/what-are-you-doing

>>73664702
>DO NOT post Soundcloud, YouTube or any links where you are not anonymous. That is considered self promotion and will result in bad feedback!

>>73664875
I'm just asking for feedback. Does it really matter if I'm anonymous or not?

>>73664702
don't post the soundclouds dude

>>73665069
>I'm posting in a thread without even bothering to read the OP and expect serious replies

>>73664702
No soundcloud fuckhead

>>73660741
>>>73646322(You)
>Fuck dude. That must have taken hours. Do you have any band pages?

Yeah ti took a little time. The music for this band is not released yet. I am in the process of getting a set together, recording it all, and then trying to attract other musicians. Drummer being the key.

The other band I'm in I cannot say out of respect for the other guys who may not appreciate me shilling our shit on 4chan.

>>73664371

>i need to rethink my life if i sound like this guy. holy hell, he is one angry mama. interesting read because he clearly knows his shit.

Good morning dude.

Yeah. Meth is a hell of a drug. Good stuff though.

>>73656931
just as i thought, this guy couldn't be any more wrong. his amp comparison list is where he lost me because a SLO is not a god damn copy of a Mark II. this dude clearly smoked his way through school

haha

https://clyp.it/a1q2xtnx

Trying out a hook idea. Wanna get a critique on that and the ad libs. I want them to be more apparent but I dont know how to accomplish that without over powering the main vocals

>>73665776

change the lyrics. make it dirtier lyrically.

think ratchet, kinda shocking, make girls think about fucking not skyrim.

good idea though and could be really catchy.

>>73665776

also add one more level of complexity to the melody. it's a little too singsong. one higher note in there could help alot.

>>73665942
>>73665953
Holy shit thanks for the feedback. I'll try something else out once I come up with some different lyrics.

>>73666034

yeah man keep it up

you want some filthy lyrics to get the panties dropping. dumb bitches love that kind of shit.

>>73665776
I wish I could critique the vocals, but I'm biased because I hate autotune rap.

What I can say is that the instrumental leading into the beat drop needs some work so it doesn't sound so robotic. It sounds muted and phoned in. Just somethings that there to put your 808s and voice over. Make it sound bright and lush, because right now it sounds kind of dull.

>>73666298
Fair enough on the vocals.

It's exactly as you described with the instrumentals I just put something down at a specific tempo and key and called it good. I'll go back and see what I can do to fix that.

Thanks

>>73666298
>Make it sound bright and lush, because right now it sounds kind of dull.

EQ, a touch of reverb, and panning to get some depth, and a mix adjustment would fix this.

>>73666298
https://clyp.it/0rorgw2k
I tried to do what you said and this is the result.

>>73666063
still work on some ratchet lyrics any ideas?

>>73666352
louder senpai louder. The piano part needs to be louder but not so much that it's as loud as a your drums or vocals and bass. look at the jump in dynamics with the waveforms from the moment the piano starts and when the 808 comes in.

>>73667096

what are the exact lyrics?

the autotune makes it hard to decipher.

>>73667170
>>73667096
meant for you my b

>>73667170

agreed. minor mix issues.

Anyone here make hip-hop/Trap beats? I got into it a month ago and they're getting better but the feedback I get from people is that my drum kit sounds suck, so I'd like to ask what packs /mu/ uses

>>73667494
try switching it up a bit. Keep the trap style but with different types of drums. I make boom bap mostly so I use shit like Deadly drums 1 & 2. Some other fuck shit I can't remember that had like 1000 drums in it. Also get young metros shit. It's pretty crisp for what it is

>>73667494
I use a metro kit and an 808 Mafia kit almost exclusively for trap stuff. They are both great kits.

How to start music label?

>>73667173
brew up the potion/ make sure its potent/ keep with the motion/ young guns and we coastin.

>>73667817

sex magic potion / sugar is potent / lost in the motion / young guns we coastin

>>73667813
make music

dre that shit

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Serious question, does anyone actually care about clipping?

If so... how do you avoid it? Its the most annoying thing ever. I'll have all my levels where I want them, nothing is even in the red, and but the master track still clips like a mofo. I know its frequency adding and shit, but god damn,

>>73667836
i came to
brew up the potion / make sure its potent / get with the notion / the recipe in motion
jolly in her cup / lil molly on her tongue / lil holly in her blood / lil mary in her lungs

ass down face up / fuck you like i hate you
rope you choke you / fuck you like i hate you
chain you pain you / fuck you like i hate you
x2
fuck you like i hate you fuck you cause i hate you
you complete me no one can replace you.

clyp is down right now but here it is with a fixed mix and new vocals

>>73667975

holy shit that is dark.

maybe a little too dark for pop, but might do well in underground circles if you can back that image up..

>>73667836
I like that sex magic potion line though. Ima use it in the hook

>>73668025

aw yeah boy. just make sure to send me royalties when you blow up haha

what the frick is that

>>73667813
>How to start music label?
don't for the love of god

>>73646583
Harmony Improvisator

>>73664281
this is what i could EQ of them
i think its better but still not fitting well on the mix
https://clyp.it/vxe2stde

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I need as much critique as you guys can give me, I'm getting stuck on this track I don't know what I'm missing or needs fixing. So all feedback is greatly appreciated. I'll repay the favor in any way I can.

https://clyp.it/4p3nfgcj

>>73667852
Cut my edge off

>>73668003
>holy shit that is dark

>>73667968
>Serious question, does anyone actually care about clipping?

yes wtf

just turn everything down equally u noob

learn to use a limiter but don't use it as an excuse to turn everything up before you master

>>73668574
Could you change the synth that starts a minute in to some sort of ethical instrument like the sitar. Or even layer one underneath of the sound. I think that would sound dope.

>>73667170
I think the mix is better now.

>>73667975
I think the contrast between the lyrics and the actual melody delivery makes for an interesting combination. Im thinking about taking it in the bdsm direction and possibly exploring the dynamics of the dom/sub personalities.

anyways heres the newest
https://clyp.it/rp0u4tx2

>>73668899
Thanks for the advice I'll give it a go (Imhotep), anything you want me to check out?

I would like some feedback...
I think i need to cut some highs and levels on the vocals... Even though I do kind of want the track to be harsh-ish

https://clyp.it/bgksthlp

something I been trying to work on. no idea if it needs more work or not

https://clyp.it/qolgvxc2

>>73664281
as i explained to you before, you can't magically make them sound good in post. if you record a shitty tone, you'll end up with a shitty tone. if you record a shitty tone with shitty mic placement, you'll still get a shitty tone. re-fucking-track it!

>>73647839
add some more overdubs of this noise, panned left and right. add reverb and delay. make a wall of noise.

>>73650762
>https://clyp.it/j3liely3
It's cool, but needs some high end sounds. and I don't like that hat ha ha.

>>73652645
>https://clyp.it/3paghg5i
sounds cute and squeaky

>>73652875
>https://clyp.it/4uyuafpq
it's kinda slow, and takes forever for anything to happen.

>>73655107
>https://clyp.it/kuo550v0

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>>73668542
someone help

>>73656015
>https://clyp.it/tyzhobkt

It's not that bad...
I'd say really eq them , but make them narrow, so they aren't so much the focus. hell, make them super thin with eq, let the vocals and everything else shine.

>>73668785
But then its too quiet!!!

And whenever I've asked for mix advice, nobody's ever said "ooh this sounds like its clipping".

im shopping for an entry level pair of studio monitors, given my budget itll probably be a 5 inch set. any recommendations? i was looking at the jbllsr305s, i wont have a subwoofer at first so looking for something that can just give me honest sound for engineering

>>73669596
i'm afraid you're beyond the point of no return. there is no helping you. may god have mercy on your poor soul.

>>73669615
it's bad. he doesn't want to take the advice of others, that's fine. let him figure it out for himself.

>>73669665
>i'm afraid you're beyond the point of no return. there is no helping you. may god have mercy on your poor soul.
what are you talking about?

>it's bad. he doesn't want to take the advice of others, that's fine. let him figure it out for himself.
what? are you the reamp guy? i liked the idea and am looking to buy a reamp device.

>>73669615
that would fix the issue of the guitars being uneven sounding, but wouldnt work the song well as it is a guitar-riff-driven song, and the vocals are the weakes part actually

is it normal for my mix to be fairly quiet before I do any mastering?

>>73670160
(it doesn't matter)

>>73670160
have you checked your levels? maybe its not even reaching 0db

>>73670306
>>73670287
It hits +1 on the hits but is quiet the rest of the time.
>>73670292
It does quiet shit is underwhelming.

>>73669642
>honest sound

sux and the kids will tell you otherwise but you'll be making a compromise at this level. i've got a pair of hs50ms that are okay and workable but this size of monitor just won't give you the bass you want.

if you're looking to get a sub you might as well just put that money towards a better and bigger set of monitors

>>73669620
>But then its too quiet!!!

so uh.... turn up your headphones or whatever the fuck you're listening on. if you don't understand gain staging and where clipping is going to hurt you then read up a bit more. soft clipping is a sound some people are fine with depending on the music but don't just do it out of ignorance/laziness

>>73670373
>if you don't understand gain staging and where clipping is going to hurt you then read up a bit more
/r/ pls

>>73670160
yes ideally you'd have your levels around -3db then normalize it during mastering.

>>73670496
how do they make a song louder and with punchier attacks during mastering? compression on the master buss?

y u all so shit?

>>73670496
>3db

uhh i think usually people say more like -6 or -10 idr.... but that's really just an arbitrary request to make sure nobody sends off clipping tracks to mix and master engineers...

>>73670541
usually starts in the mixing stage but you can do that while mastering to a degree.... it's heavily dependent on arrangement and the music itself. compression and transient shapers are a big deal

>>73670439
>/r/ pls
>?

i'll assume that's a request for an explanation but i have to go. long story short it's going to fuck you in mastering, it's more noticeable when you bounce down and to mp3... and something about daws *actually* clipping is more complicated for some technical reason

i don't have the details memorized and i gotta go rn

>>73670771
lack of practice
we're gonna make it some day...

>>73670771
I just do this for a hobby

>>73670027
your tones are shit in the context of the mix, dude. nothing will save them. for the last time, re-track the guitars and stop asking for someone to magically fix your bad tones. come back when you get your guitars recorded properly and then we'll talk about how to get those drums sounding better.

>>73670866
i've been thinking this every time and never wanted to say it because it sounds mean lol

>>73670866
ok i'll try with the mic touching the grill and more to the speaker's borders rather than the center

>>73670866

i actually already did this >>73671249
https://clyp.it/afzuktml
will it work

>>73671298
WRITE A NEW SONG IT'S NOT WORKING YOU CANNOT FORCE IT

>>73671298
no, it sounds like shit. i'm done being nice to you, sam.

>>73671422
theres no mic/amp combination left then

>>73671565
kill yourself.

>>73671592
Be nice to Sam Haha :(

>>73671592
dont treat me to do it

>>73671622
fuck off, nobodys talking to you, who are even you

>>73667968
Audacity is internally 32 bit floating point. You can mix two things and end up with clipping, and then fix it with the amplitude (i.e. normalize) effect. It's clipping because it's outside of the range of +/- 1, but nothing is actually being distorted because it's floating point. It will only result in irreversible distortion when you export.

>>73667968
>doesnt use a limiter

whats the point to limiters if they leave a clipping sound just the same

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>>73671940
hmm, this actually makes me feel better, so no data is really being lost.... if I keep it in wav or some other lossless format I suppose.

In the future, I will try mixing with a limiter on the master and not overcompressing the crap out of my drums.

>>73672112
They don't unless you don't know what you're doing

>>73672219
>>73671940
Okay stop using audacity and just download reaper

You master knowing it's going to end up in mp3 somewhere

>>73670866
can you talk about how to get those drums sounding better before i get to re-record the guitars

>>73672309
will the software change the way it clips the sound depending on my thoughts' vibrations?

>>73672219
>so no data is really being lost.... if I keep it in wav or some other lossless format

No data is being lost while the projects in in the DAW and the calculations are being made with floating point precision - as soon as you export to any format (including wav or any lossless format) you will lose data, since the sample won't have enough bits to represent a signal that exceeds 0db.

>>73672654
Ah, ok thank you. So I do have to get my levels right before exporting.