/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

FUCK OFF ROMAN

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Post overrated guitar models that sound like shit

I'll post this on the new thread
Recently I acquired a fender start. And everything is great, but there is this little thing that ticks me. I would like to have the tremolo arm set up in a way that it is loose enough to flop down when I release it, but there is no wobbliness when using it. Is there a solution for this? On the internet I've only seen people talking about how to make the arm stay put in the position where you want it, which doesn't help me at all.

>>73642178
>tfw only a Gibson™ is good enough
>tfw poorfa/gg/s will never know this feel

is there a guitar that sounds like a telecaster but isnt ugly as shit?

>>73642264
Yes, a Telecaster

>>73642264
>Telecaster
>Ugly

Take that back

>>73642303
no and thats why shes special

>>73642307
>special
well that explains you then

>>73642303
go back to playing your ugly telecaster made by beaners

>>73642354
rather go back to your moms specialty desu

>>73642264
A Fender Telecaster

>>73642470
>can't play guitar anymore
>*professionally play guitar all over the world*
sorry everyone side effect of the jism breath

>>73642204
Yes, I think there is a spring that you can get. Failing that, just use a piece of paper or something?
Tremolo arm tension spring

Is there any worse guitar brand than Chapman?

They are not only ugly, but cheap pieces of shit. Why would anyone in their right mind buy one?

>>73642601
can't afford one huh? kek

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>>73642638
They're cheap garbage. Everything about them is shit.
Anyone I've ever seen play one is a neckbeard

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>>73642168

>>73642761
>Frusciante's surgically reconstructed and enhanced face
Don't do drugs, folks

That being said, why is the riff for Can't Stop so fun to play?

>>73642777
because it's froosh, god of /gg/.

>>73642761
>>73638181
Reading the bible is a positive thing, I'm sure you can incorporate some of the stories into your shitposting. Swing the jud/gg/emental hammer.

It's not an addiction, it's your crusade, what you were born to do.

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WHY THE FUCK IS THE AJFA TONE SO HARD TO RECREATE FOR FUCKS SAKE

>>73642178
Okay, you start.

>>73642743
Man, I actually like Telecasters but that is one ugly guitar.

>>73643137
Even with all of Amplitube 4, I can't come close.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1PbNUsAFisS

>>73642592
But won't that make the arm stay in place instead of drop when I release? Usually every person I saw talking about the tape or the spring was to make it stay in place. I will try it still

What's a good affordable bass for someone who prefers playing with picks

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Guys
How does change Alien amp choobs?
How does the I shoves fuse in dick?
Halp Pl0x?

>>73643253
https://reverb.com/item/4300019-ibanez-srx2-ex2-white?

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>>73643253

>>73642178
I like SGs better, personally.

>>73642178
Overrated? Maybe. Overprice? Yes buy a studio. Sounds like shit? Absolutely not.

>>73642204
It sounds like the spring is missing. They come with springs but most people lose it. Just get the part, they're like $2.

>>73643465
I bought a LP studio and I regret nothing

>>73643421
being a bass player, I would never reccomend a bass VI for a beginner

buy some cheap, used yamaha bass and start playing with that
also, try experimenting different play styles, not just using a pick

>>73643752
>being a bass player
So you mean "being a retard" by that?

He wanted a bass meant for a pick, so I suggested a guitar tuned an octave lower(if you knew theory this would put it in the same range as a bass).

Lrn2read

>>73643819
>He wanted a bass meant for a pick
>bass for someone who prefers playing with picks
That totally not what he said.
>>73643752 This however is good advice.

>>73643819
maybe you misread

he wants a bass, and there are plenty of 4 strings, 5 strings and even 6 strings that are not bass guitars made for guitar players who don't want to bother having a real instrument
matter of fact, the bass VI is usually used inside a studio rather than playing live because, well, it's not a proper bass

there's plenty of other options
and there's no such thing as "a bass meant for a pick"

>>73643857
>bassist with inflated self importance
You can't make this shit up.

>>73643857
talking out of your ass: the post

>>73643853
>>73643857
Samefag

romans up early

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Is Jazzmaster/Jaguar better than Strat/Tele?

>>73644093
>BETTER

>>73644114
Well i mean, it's all subjective, im just asking for your opinions

>>73644093
>>73644124
when do you sleep

If a tab says to slide from nothing to 7 what am I supposed to do?

fresh upload amigos
https://soundcloud.com/samuelcfaria/doncha-hesitate-cover

>>73644166
i have an inconsistent sleeping pattern

>>73644175
slide from nothing to 7

>>73644238
what the fuck does that mean

>>73643276
fuck off samuel

>>73644238
slide from a random note just to create a sliding sound

>>73644175
It means the note you start from doesn't matter that much, just start somewhere lower than 7 and end on 7. The important part is the sound of the slide itself, there shouldn't be a specific starting note heard

>>73644272
>>73644270
alright thanks

>>73644272
can slide down also

thinking of tweaking my bass a bit. If i put a guitar pickup into a 4 string bass guitar, will that sound crap or? anyone tried??

>>73643752
>being a bass player, I would never reccomend a bass VI for a beginner
It's not for a beginner, and it's neither a guitar nor a true bass.

>>73643819
>so I suggested a guitar tuned an octave lower(if you knew theory this would put it in the same range as a bass).

Stop, it's a bass, it's always been considered a bass, it has thicker strings than a guitar and it's played an octave lower.

>>73643857
>matter of fact, the bass VI is usually used inside a studio rather than playing live because, well, it's not a proper bass

Fender VI is an instrument for real musicians. It's not just a studio instrument but it's not a replacement for bass or guitar, it's a niche instrument that has its purpose and its own distinctive sound.

Don't even fuck with the idea of getting a Fender VI unless you know what you want from it, which would probably be something like The Cure's sound.

>>73644093
>Is Jazzmaster/Jaguar better than Strat/Tele?
No.

>>73644381
>If i put a guitar pickup into a 4 string bass guitar, will that sound crap or?
i think thes no special sound to achieve by doing that

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>>73644410
lol is this a bass?

>>73644444
It's not a baritone guitar either, baritones usually have thinner strings than the Fender VI, though the Fender VI can be played as a baritone with lighter strings and a different tuning, some models were in fact marketed as baritones.

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>>73644444
yes thats a bass, just a different type of bass

>nice numbers

>>73644435
Yeah I'm aware of that, however my bass pickups are cheapos, and I do have a nice guitar pickup to spare. I'm just concerned that it might sound completely off, u know cus its designed to pickup 6 thin strings instead of 4 thick ones. Not looking to achieve anything special, just a decent bass tone.

I like x; you like y. X = patrician; y= plebian. That settles that. You are Hitler.

This has been fun.

>>73644506
Gonna sound like shit bud.

>Plays bass in my church's worship band
>mostly play Christian radio pop songs
>always bring heavy, melodic bass lines that don't just follow the root notes
>nobody notices or cares because people think it's bad to groove at church

feels bad man, but atleast I get to play In front of 400+ people.

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Is this okay? feels a bit high boys

>>73644566
You play in a praise band for self gratification, desu? This bodes ill for the condition of your soul. Discover humility before it's too late!

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Post your meme rigs bois

>1979 Trace elliot gp11 4x10 with 1x15 extension for extra TONE
>boss ce-5, digitech hardwire reverb, dopefx altars of madness
>gibber v

Thats not mess btw, thats tone debris

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>>73644633
Nice tone debris man.

>>73643465
>>73643650

Had a Studio for years. Got the cash for a Traditional, went to the guitar shop. Played around, bought another Studio and turned the extra cash into a 5150 and a new interface.

I regret nothing. $1000 for what is essentially a binding is stupid. Both of my studios have trapezoidal too, ez

>>73642215
I'd rather buy a good guitar by a good luthier instead of some factory shit pumped out and then marked up to a laughable price for what it is.

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I hope you guys play more than just blues licks.

You don't just play on pentatonic scale 99% of the time, riiiighhht???

>>73645337
I've been covering some muse/radiohead songs so a lot of effect, unusual tuning and strange chords

what's a pentatonic scale

>>73645364
It's the "blues scale"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentatonic_scale

>>73645337
I don't even play leads, usually they're boring and they suck.

>>73645337
Most people here don't know scales, since "theory limits creativity" or whatecer bullshit they're spewing this month to cover for their laziness.

>>73645398
If you actually follow the rules of classical composition, theory does limit your creativity.

if you learn scales and you are scared to ever go out of scale, this is another cases where theory can limit you.

>>73645004
>I'd rather buy a good guitar
>I'd rather
Poorfa/gg/™ acting like he can afford a custom guitar, let alone a quality Gibson™.

>>73645375
Oh, that

(I don't really like playing blues, and it's too difficult for me yet so)

>>73645398
>>73645398
Yeah, I'm fucking lazy. I played since I was a kid but I never really bothered learning how to read music, so now I'm stuck with learning everything by ear and tabs

it sucks because I know I could be a much better musician, but it's just too much of a overwhelming idea for me

I can play bach on the piano but I can't read music shit

>>73645462
>so now I'm stuck with learning everything by ear
If you can't write or improvise by ear you're a shit musician anyways.

>>73645462
I know some music theory, and i never use it for my compositions. i rely on my imagination for composition

>>73645486
Yeah but you're on another level bro, i remember that one song you posted months back and it was incredible.

>>73645514
t...thanks

>>73642743
>let's take a utilitarian design and give it a carved top, stained wood, and add some comfort to the cutaway
they didn't even do one of the best telecaster mods to it, jesus christ.

>>73645451
>defending mass produced overpriced planks of wood

>>73645442
musicians who can't break the mold are either not musicians, in orchestras or teaching.

>>73645481
true, but that's like the basis of playing an instrument

I "write" my songs, but I usually just record them right away when I find a nice sound
I have terrible memory for me it's easier this way instead of writing down notes and chords
well chords not really, I usually write them down somewhere

but then again, it's all about leaving your comfort zone

Playing without an amp is annoying

>>73645523
Seriously, it's lame that everyone shit on it because of who you are as a person, but that's music these days.

>>73645579
To you maybe, I'm positive you playing with an amp is much more annoying to everyone around you.

>>73645604
: /

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will the colour fade on sunlight if it's a thick poly finish?

>>73645530
>overpriced
Sorry, I don't speak Poorfa/gg/™.

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>>73645661
>regretting everyday that its not a plaintop tobacco without that ugly burst near the switch

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I got $500 what guitar and amp do i get

>>73645661
>will the colour fade on sunlight if it's a thick poly finish?
Yes

>>73645718
i'll leave it there then, and do it for some more days

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cant decide to sand more or leave it as it is

it already plays noticeably easier than before i started
but if i sand it like a gibson axcess it will be even nicer

>>73645640
I did have a Crate 35w combo that sounded nice. Thinking of an orange or Marshall combo.

why some anons keep asking me to star postinw with an ID or whatever thats called

>>73645781
Fill the crack with epoxy, sand it smooth and paint it

>>73645717
mexi tele
orange crush 20

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>>73645781
>not doing it like this

>>73645717
Vox ACT4TV amp
Whatever guitar feels good to you through that

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>>73645781
What the fuck dude. If you can actually finish that to look presentable and not hacked to shit I'll be incredibly impressed

>>73646003
why bother, it doesnt show

>>73645785
no one cares

>>73644444
Impressive, very nice.

>>73645812
It's called a user name

Under name do something
HugeFaggot##rapemyface

HugeFaggot will be your user name, rapemyface would be your password. No registration required.

>>73645812
dont do it sam, they just want to be able to hide your posts automatically.

>>73646085
how do i hide crazyagas posts

>>73646103
Post under name
Crazyaga//iskill

Then in the body type
100%

It won't actually post, it's just to change hidden settings.

>>73646067
>HugeFaggot
I don't think it's working

>>73646103
I mean if you really want to do it -

1. Go to settings (top right corner)
2. Click the "filters and post hiding" tab
3. Click the "edit" button
4. Add me in there

>>73645812
Because you probably have the coolest posts and they don't want to miss any. Consider it a compliment. It means that people like you.

Give this a try:
>>73646067

>>73646143
Type ##anyfuckingpasswordyouwant after HugeFaggot

>>73645812
I like the audio clips you post so its easy to search for them when you have a trip.

>>73646143
looks good to me

>>73646154
But then everyone will see my password.

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>>73646151

>>73645442
>implying scales limit

yeah maybe if you're using base blues pentatonics, but im 100% certain that if you're using the modes, along with some melodic major and bebop dorian you can do whatever the fuck you want.

>>73646227
Nah, it changes into jumbled characters like crazyaga's

>>73646227
Typing two hashtags in the username field encodes whatever you write after it.

>>73646238
>muh moadz
someone plz kill this meme

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Roman been shitting and lying at the duncan forum also

Is their difference in rosewood and maple besides look and feel?

>>73646028
Meanie.

That bullshit aside, this Justinguitar sites helping a lot. Really dig how in depth it gets. I'm getting better but slowly. Now I actually enjoy playing the guitar again.

>>73646243
Yeah thats your secure trip password.

>>73646270
Yes, but differences in tone due to wood type are extremely subtle.

>>73646279
>trip
We determined late last year that it is called a user name

>>73645486
yeah and we all know how good that works.....

>>73646261
>join date
>2004
roman was still in his daddy's nut sack at that point

>>73646298
That's how almost all good modern rock musicians compose music anon.

>>73646313
what you doing, thats not roman thats a guy talking about roman's bullshit

>>73646326
>and they end up with modern rock "music"
yeah i see, it turns out really well.

>>73646326
>good
>modern
>rock
Pick one

>>73646326
>all good modern rock musicians compose music

There isn't enough greentext in the world for this.

>>73646327
They're talking about Ed Roman, who is different from our Roman

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>Grovers
>Graph-Tech Resomax bridge
>Ebony fretboard
>3/4" maple top
>for 600$
why in the world buy a les poor of other brand

>>73646342
>>73646344
>>73646355
>They think bands like Radiohead and Swans are bad

It's not just rock musicians who are doing it btw, its modern musicians of most genres

>>73646433
>old bands
>modern
Pick one

The idea of imagination being the main instrument of art is not a new idea, it's the very essence of the artistic process

>>73646426
because guitarists are too self conscious and insecure.

>>73646433
>Radiohead
>not using music theory
Stop

>>73646463
If you are successfully making music in the standard Western canon, you are probably knowing/using music theory without realizing it

>>73646472
Radiohead are using music theory only as a supplement. the core of their composition doesn't come from theory.

You really think radiohead thought about music theory when they made something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6aVoDSRIRY

>>73646499
jonny greenwood studied music in school. he knows what he's doing. the guy did the score for there will be blood as well.

>>73646484
I did not even think about music theory when i made this, or any of my other compositions.

https://soundcloud.com/matanken/possession-take-2

>>73646539
Guess what? I studied music in school as well.

>this fucking faggot is comparing himself to greenwood

>>73646499
>the core of their composition doesn't come from theory.
How so? Theory can describe all of their songs that at least have harmony.

>You really think radiohead thought about music theory when they made something like this:
Yes. Why wouldn't they? There is harmony and organized rhythm
>>73646546
>I did not even think about music theory when i made this
You did, you just didn't realize it. What is the chord sequence?

>Guess what? I studied music in school as well.
Anecdotal evidence. The members of the band have specifically he's the "theory guy" of the band, and Greenwood has even conducted.

>>73646276
That's cool man, keep it up.

>>73646546
>Guess what? I studied music in school as well.

go write a film score then, seeing as you are on greenwood's level lol.

>>73646592
The fact i mentioned myself and greenwood in the same post doesn't mean i made any comparison.

I only talked about him because this guy >>73646539 brought him up.

>>73646599
I legitimately have no idea what chord sequence i used. i only care about the atmosphere the piece creates.

>>73646609
I did not say i'm at the same level of greenwood.

But i could make an incredible film score if i had an orchestra i could instruct

>>73646662
>I legitimately have no idea what chord sequence i used. i only care about the atmosphere the piece creates.
NOW you proved, you're really an artist

Stop replying to roman

>>73646662
>But i could make an incredible film score if i had an orchestra i could instruct
do it with vsti orchestra instruments

>>73646662
>I legitimately have no idea what chord sequence i used
Not relevant.

Are you playing chords? You are, I'm hearing roots, 3b or 3rd and 5ths, and even a chord sequence following the circle of 5ths although you are abruptly changing key sometimes. If you are playing these notes simultaneously to create a chord, guess what? You are using music theory

music theory is like grammar, you can't really write a book without it, you have to learn it if you want to be a good writer

if you want to become a great writer, you have to take all those learnings and reinvent them, use them as a tool to achieve something more, something that no one other has done before

bukowski writes in a unusual way, and yet he can be considered very talented

if people ever only applied what's written in books, we had 0 innovation sound wise

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>>73646662
>But i could make an incredible film score if i had an orchestra i could instruct

you wouldn't even know where to start

>>73646546
p good

>>73646685
Every piece can be deconstructed to theory, it doesn't mean theory was deliberately used to construct it.

Jaguar or Jazzmaster? Does it matter?

>>73646708
>it doesn't mean theory was deliberately used to construct it.
Did you play organized chords anywhere in that piece?

Yes or no?

>i studied in a music school just like jhonny greenwood
>i dont use music theory for composing, just like jhonny greenwood
>lol i'm not comparing myself to jonny greenwood

>>73646691
i would first need to know what the movie is about. then i would know where to start.

You are really underestimating me

>>73646426
How are those agiles? Forgot they existed

>>73644644
Nice rig my, dude, if that's your rig ofc. I bet you get some chunky metal toanz out of that. A question tho, how much do you push the master volume? That is a behemoth of an amp, can't believe you can play it on your house lol.

>>73646718
The fact i played them doesn't mean i actively thought: "I'm now going to play chords because of music theory"

>>73646714
the question is, humbucker or single coil?

I just bought a cobain jaguar, ask me anything

>>73646708
I think I get what you're saying, but still you can't really "forget about" something you learned in music school

greenwood's texture and layers work so well because he knows where each note should be

maybe he spent a whole year trying to find that "sound", but he was improving what he already knew, he wasn't starting from scratch

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>>73645781
glad i saw this on time, wont sand any more

I have a question, I'm a beginner when it comes to playing guitar, I've been playing for about 6 months. When I try to play a hammer-on to a pull-off into a slide or vice versa I lose the sound almost immediately after the hammer-on/pull-off when doing the slide. Is it a problem with my technique or does it have something to do with guitar quality? I have a pretty cheap Strat if that helps.

>>73646760
>"I'm now going to play chords because of music theory"
That's because you were using music theory without knowing it, which is what I said here >>73646484

>>73646791
Could be both.

>>73646802
No. the fact it can be deconstructed to music theory, it doesn't mean music theory was used.

how can someone that actually plays guitar to play some notes and not know which intervals theyre doing at the fretboard

>>73645337
>>73645398
I am trying to expand my lead skills by using arpeggios/chord tones, chromatic notes, tension/release, etc. Good results so far. Pretty fun thing to incorporate on your playing. I did indeed get tired of just playing the pentatonic.

>>73646818
>it doesn't mean music theory was used.
The fact that you are playing actual chords shows music theory was involved. You just either are pretending you are not or honestly are unaware.

>>73646832
The concept of creating some sort of polyphony is so basic and obvious no one even considers it when they make music. come on now

>>73645337
I still rely on the same pentatonic boxes and chord shapes that i started with, but i add intervals that i like to them, and lately been trying some chromatic runs.

Also when i get to play modes i base it around these shapes and do the modes' intervals.

Man, learning disposable heroes made me realize how important is your pick attack to make a song sound heavy. That chugging/galloping on the song sounds so heavy for a E standard song. It also made me realize how underdeveloped my right hand is, compared to my left hand. Gotta work on it.

>>73646691
This is a very sloppy blueprint of a piece i composed on my keyboard. i'm not a keyboard/piano player, so i lack technical skill in order to play the piece i composed properly.

I uploaded this for you just because you said i cannot compose a film score.

https://soundcloud.com/matanken/an-inside-worldwav

>not listening to rock misic

>>73646899
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRqCOIsTx8M
that's just chugga chugga
dunno if u already know it: hold the pick firmly and strong
and parallell to the strings, dont edge picking

>>73646283
Which one is right for me? I want a fender tele. Idk if i should go with standard or thinline.

>>73646975
>parallell to the strings, dont edge picking
You mean holding on an angle right? The way I hold my pick is approximately 60 degrees towards the string.

>>73645781


Quit fucking posting this. It's been months.

>>73646985
Only you can know which one is right for you.

But again, differences in tone that occur due to wood density are very subtle. things like your pickups or your amp have a much more prominent effect on your sound

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bad pic but here's my 1994 MIJ

got it for $400

fuckin steal

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>>73644633
Lexicon Alpha + Ableton for fx
Yamaha JX 25 with a little reverb
Roland Space Echo RE201

a jag, a ric and a akai

>>73646426
When will the agile meme die?

>>73646855
That sounds like your problem for being naive about the nature of music

>>73647017
yes. having it parallel to the strings makes a more defined attack
try holding it with the pads of the fingers instead of the sides

>>73647031
ive been sanding more

>not owning MIA guitars

>>73647056

Nice

>>73647077
Nice Ric. Mine's a 4003S

>>73647153

No one gives a shit. You've ruined your guitar. Everyone says they don't car about resale, but it never ends up true.

I dare you to post the Craigslist ad here when you get rid of it so we can see how you try to pimp this as an upgrade.

I know you think you're different but the precedent of every dipshit guitarist before you will ring true.

We've all done stupid mods to guitars we've had to live with. I've had a fretless SG Faded in th corner of my studio for two years.

I dont post it on /gg/ nearly every god damn day, though.

>>73647230
>fretless sg

man
show me that shit

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>tfw you will never see Brian Jonestown Massacre perform in their prime

This is easily the best album of 1995

>>73647133
The problem is yours, not mine.

You still seem to not understand that imagination is the core of the artistic process. not theory.

>>73647302
>The problem is yours, not mine.
Why, because I disagree with you? What happened to respecting other people's opinions? isn't that what you go on and on about?

>You still seem to not understand that imagination is the core of the artistic process. not theory.
See >>73646484
I'm glad you feel you are imaginative. But the reality is that unless you are literally playing random notes rhythmically, you are using theory weather you want/admit it or not.

Sorry crazyaga

>>73647230
jokes on you, i'll never sell this guitar
i refretted it as soon as i got it with dunlop 6000s

>>73647302

Imagination is the core process of any painter but they'd look pretty retarded without any brushes or acrylics. No one ever faulted a painter for learning to create perspective lines.

Theory is a tool. People claim to not use it when they write but it's really that they're just ignorant of what they're applying.

Even flushing the toilet is using engineering.

Just use theory, kid. You'll sound lovely or way less of a fuckface.

>>73647349
>>73647302
>>73647370
Shut up faggots
You're all shit musicians and will never release anything worthwhile

>>73647230
>>73647031
>I dont post it on /gg/ nearly every god damn day, though.
oh i'm sorry for polluting your 4chan thread :^(

>>73647370
Brushes and acrylics are instruments, not theory.
Knowing how to use the brush is technique, not theory.

Theory of visual arts is more like learning about perspective, shadows and the way colors interact with one another.

>>73647382
I'm literally releasing two albums this year and touring, but believe w/e you want, idc

>>73647382

You forgot your trip.

>>73647418

Semantics. You even tried to correct me with using one of the examples I used.

Just give up kiddo

>>73647077
How are you liking that akai?

>>73647418
>Theory of visual arts is more like learning about perspective, shadows and the way colors interact with one another.
Except you demonstrated using this in the sound sample you posted. You think you don't, but you did.

>>73647425
And? Justin Bieber is probably doing that this year too, you massive fucking cunt

>>73647429
I don't use a trip because I'm not a faggot

>>73647483
>Justin Bieber is probably doing that this year too,
He gets laid more in a week than you ever will in your life. How does that feel?

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>>73647441
I used technique in order to show my artistic vision, that is obvious. but technique is always secondary to your imagination. (given that you know how to use both)

>>73647469
The fact something can be deconstructed to theory doesn't mean theory was used to construct it.

The fact a building is made from atoms, it doesn't mean the builders constructed it thinking about each individual atom that makes the building.

Btw i also made visual art. pic related is my creation. this is more image editing than painting though. but i love it, it's so minimalistic yet so pretty

>>73647545
>The fact something can be deconstructed to theory doesn't mean theory was used to construct it.
Sure. But in this case it was since you are using actual harmonic chords. How did you decide to play a root and it's 3rd and it's 5th? Feel free to prove me wrong by explaining your thought process.
>it doesn't mean the builders constructed it thinking about each individual atom that makes the building.
The engineers are all trained in physics and definitely followed the laws of physics when designing the building. Nice try.

>>73646752
I keep the master between 4 and 7 for home use, fx loop at noon and solo boost is always on at noon. I use it for a lot more than just metal, I love the cleans from a Dual Rec, it really can do anything if you dial it in.

I love living in a brick home with deaf geriatrics for neighbors

>>73647582
It's true they considered the laws of physics, but only to a certain level. they did not use quantum mechanics, even though the building is made from particles that obey quantum mechanics.

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>>73646935
I'm sorry but this is bad. Song has no direction. This is just what I expect from you though since you don't understand criticism and are full of yourself. You are a wannabe; it's pretty obvious.

>>73645717
Cheap ass Epiphone SG and a Fender Mustang V2 if you set it right you can get some good Punk Tones

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Any nice hollowbody/archtop guitars around $1000?

>>73647630
>>73647582
It clearly has a direction and an idea behind it.

If you don't like the song that's okay though, music is purely subjective. but if you say it doesn't have a direction, you honestly just don't get it

>>73647653
Lol I'm pretty sure that was a reply for me. You overestimate yourself, really. If you would be more humble maybe you could improve.

>>73647623
>they did not use quantum mechanics
That is only a small branch of the laws of physics. Nice strawman.

>>73647653
>It clearly has a direction and an idea behind it.
You are not explaining what you should. How did you decide what to play, exactly?

>If you don't like the song
That's not what we are talking about. Don't change the subject because you realized you were wrong. Please answer above questions.

>>73647673
Meant to reply only to >>73647630

>>73647685
I'm sorry i meant to reply someone else

>>73647673
Fuck off

>>73646762
Is it annoying having a toggle switch in such an ass place?

>>73647681
1. If you don't like my music, that's 100% cool with me, art is subjective. but i am not overestimating myself. I'm not the only person who thinks my music is beautiful, plenty of people love my music, including people here in /mu/

2. I would rather be honest and not humble.

>>73647505
I doubt it, but for arguments sake, even if it were true, and? Since when was music about fucking the most pussy? You fucking idiot.
I don't give a fuck about pussy, I put music before it. I've turned down pussy for music. I've turned down money for music. I've fucking burned money for music, and I'd do it again indefinitely if necessary.

I'd rather die than be Justin Bieber, or even remotely like him. I don't give a fuck how many dumb cunt models he's fucked, or how much money he has. His music is worthless, he is worthless, his legacy will be one of worthlessness.

Like that one saying, however it goes, "You could conquer the world, but if you suck one dick and you'll always be known as a cocksucker"
That sums up this phenomenon perfectly.
You can sell out tours, be a millionaire, fuck social climbing models, but if you're Bieber, or anyone like him, you'll always be a fucking faggot until the end of time

People like you don't make good music, you don't make good anything. You were born mediocre, and you'll die that way too

>>73646855
In order to step outside of the box you have to be in it in the first place

>>73647735
>>73647653
>music is purely subjective
Wrong

>>73647545
Math is the language of physics.
Theory is the language of music.

Speaking about physics without knowin the math is just repeating things you're told, not understanding.

Music is no different. You can observe gravity without understanding it just the same as you can make a melody without knowing the notes involved.

>>73647800
Or you could not give a fuck about the box in the first place, and from the perspective of people who listen to your music and try to analyze it, you step in and outside of the box creatively

>>73647735

that piano piece was fuck awful and your guitar playing is akin to first year guitar students. you're not that great.

>honest

kek

>>73647814
Hows all that theory going for you? Where is that album of yours, post it? It had better be a fucking masterpiece...otherwise shut the fuck up already

Sometimes you need to just play without thinking too hard
Technical guitar players music always sounds like garbage

>>73647814
Theory can describe music, but it's not the "language of music" as an artform. let me elaborate what i mean:

Nothing about music theory tells you how to make something that would sound like outer space for example. you have to use your imagination for that.

>>73647811
In what way am i not being honest? i'm always happy to criticize myself, but i don't see any degree of dishonesty here.

>>73647778
tl;dr

Feel free to post more text walls about Justin beiber though

>>73647862

How many albums I may or may not have had nothing to do with how important theory is. It can be as clear to a first year student as it can be to a Grammy holding songwriter.

>>73647820
Judging by your piece, you didn't step outside the box. That's what's shitty, is you are pretending you did, when you didn't.

>>73647820
Maybe one day you will see that theory is essential to creating music. Without it everything you make is incredibly basic. With music theory you can completely understand what you are doing. Learning and applying theory isn't impossibly difficult and is actually quite interesting. Every fucking musician or band EVER has utilised music theory. What is there even to do with a guitar aside from technique when your so stupid you disregard theory.

>>73647889
It wasn't really about Beiber, but more about you being a faggot. Keep dreaming about fame and money you clown, run along

>>73647874
Post more of your shit, I'm bored looking for laughs.

>>73647909
>Grammy holding
As if that means anything at all
Way to reveal how much of a pleb you are, eh? Lmao

>>73647820
Your music does not step outside the box because you have no understanding of it. Without knowing theory it is impossible to step outside it.

>>73647925
Why would i share my music with someone who just wants to insult the creator?

I'm willing to share my music with people who actually like my music, not with people who have the goal of trying to insult me.

You don't even care about the quality of my music, the only thing you cares about is that im the one who made it

>>73647874
>Nothing about music theory tells you how to make something that would sound like outer space for example. you have to use your imagination for that.

"Space sounding" would be a anything that is generally accepted as invoking thoughts of space. Certain progressions and scales would be more prevalent in those styles, as they are with all styles. Knowing those would absolutely help you make Space music.

Don't say something stupid like Reverb makes it spacey, not theory.

>>73647948
>Without knowing theory it is impossible to step outside it.
[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[citation needed]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

>>73647946
Keep attacking me because you can't deal with my points, by all means.

>>73647919
Maybe one day you will realize all of your favorite artists used mainly their imagination to compose music. and the ones who used music theory, only used music theory to supplement the music they imagined.

>>73647966
Not impossible but it's is far far easier to create non theory based music if you know theory.

>>73647958
Woah I'm a big fan. That piano piece was beautiful, albeit the recording quality was bad, I like the way it progressed and became more harmonically complex as the song went on. I'm curious to see what else you've created, you have the ear my friend.

>>73647981
Creativity is the best part of music but by knowing theory you can create the sounds that you desire easily.

>>73647995
Samefagging

>>73648031
What are you talking about? I just came into this thread? I like to see what other musicians create, it's fun. I don't come here very often.

>>73647451
Bought it in october, still trying to figure out all its functions

but, the keys are superb, the weight is very similar to my piano
pads are smooth and very responsive, it's built like a tank

I needed a midi keyboard, this akai MPK249 is doing its job fine, you plug it in and you're done

>>73647713
the cobain signature jag has different controls, there's a 3 way switch on the bottom instead of the selector; the one at the top controls the neck pickup (tone and volume) if switched up

it takes a little time getting used to it, yes
but overall you can get a pretty decent range of sounds

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>>73648055
You made it way too obvious my man.

>>73648004
Maybe for you. not for me

>>73647977
I don't give a fuck, you just said grammy award winning as if it means something

You're the definition of pleb

>>73648107
Is it your goal to create music which falls outside of traditional music theory or do you just want to create music without learning any theory? I'm intrigued

>>73648142
I want to create something which is truly incredible. i want to create an album that i would love to listen to as a person who is passionate about music.

My taste usually falls on the more atmospheric side of music

>>73648074
>The Way The Earth Circles The Sun Makes Me Feel Dizzy
Woah what a genius title! It describes the song so perfectly! The lack of a good melody definitely makes me dizzy.
Listen to The Way The Earth Circles Aroud The Sun Makes Me Feel Dizzy by matanken #np on #SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.com/matanken/the-way-the-earth-circles-aroud-the-sun-makes-me-feel-dizzy

>50 Posters
>262 Replies
roman or all these newfags I don't know which one is worse

>>73648211
I know you are trying to shit on me, but people are going to listen to this song and actually love it.

Look at the comments in soundcloud

>>73642468
lol

>>73648120

You've got a really shallow knowledge of music if you are using the citation of a Grammy as the basis for debunking an argument.

>2017
>still earnestly calling people plebs

Sure is fucking summer in here

>>73648211
Yo crazyyaga i haven't heard your music but that truly is an awful title. Im sure you can come up with something better.

>>73648211
Those comments make me want to kill myself. Soundcloud is a god damn cancer.

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>>73648394
Is it worse than calling your band "Godspeed You! Black Emperor"

>>73648433
You are aware those comments are people from /mu/, right?

>>73648296
>says someone else has a shallow knowledge of music
>thinks a grammy award is important or means anything at all
lmao
don't reply pleb

>>73648471

It was a quick example. Again, you're cherry picking little shit to hold onto because you can't come at any of my actual points.

Post some of your material. Lets hear your non pleb genius.

I don't know if the guy from the deleted angel olson thread from this morning is here but crazyaga is another one of his characters like brandon. he won't ever stop as long as you keep replying so please don't

>>73648462
who cares, it looks like they're being forced at gunpoint to make a comment. That kind of empty praise is only there because they expect you to comment back. It's entirely meaningless. "Wow such ethereal. Big ups on the guitar reverb bro! "

>>73648471

>muh Grammys are plebshit.

fucking high schoolers

>>73648537
Are you fucking serious?

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>>73648518
>He cannot acknowledge the fact people genuinely liked my music so he tells himself they were "forced to comment"

Your cognitive dissonance is at display

anyone else thinks that bultaco saturno is one of the greatest rock compositions ever made?

>>73648497
>>73643174
IM NOT FUCKING ROMAN

>>73648574

I don't think the Grammys mean anything, but being as much of an "anti establishment" cuck as you are is pretty good indication that you're pretty entry level.

You probably use the word pleb outside of 4chan. Remember, the music you like has nothing to do with you as a person. Only teenagers have so much vanity to think that it does.

>>73648575
How many gigs or album sales has your soundcloud netted you? Soundcloud is where sub-mediocre barely-musicians go to get a self esteem boost by circle jerking eachother in the comments. Go ahead and think that playing 2 alternating notes through a simple delay is actually good music though senpai.

>>73648642
what's a good place (online) to really start getting into the music scene?

>>73639176
lol

>>73648662

Music scenes don't happen online senpai

>>73648677
well, I tried

time to get back to my mancave

>>73648642
How insecure are you?

i don't any gigs (well, not anymore) and i don't sell my music because i did not even release my debut album yet. most of my music is not even shared online. of course i don't have a music career you fucking moron.

Also the piece was clearly much more than "2 notes with delay". you are just pretending it was 2 notes with delay because you are not willing to acknowledge my music for what it actually is

>>73648708

You don't need a scene to make music. You really just need one to secure shows.

>>73648716
>you are not willing to acknowledge my music for what it actually is

how would you describe your music then?

>>73648716
*i don't do any gigs (well, not anymore)

I played my music in front of a crowd few times, but it was years ago. the first time i did it was when i was 15, and one of the people in the crowd came afterwards and asked me if it's my own piece or a piece of another composer. i told him it's my own piece and he was very impressed

>>73646688
you need music theory if don't have experience on writing at all.
once you go over the basics. you can sort of "not follow the rules". so at least you know why your hook or verse sounds like shit

>>73648761
see >>73648191

>>73648662
Online networking is bullshit if you don't plan on actually promoting your music IRL, you just end up with mindless complimenting of eachother like in those comments. Release an album (on a physical material, CDs or Cassettes are cheap for small runs) send a couple of copies to different stores around the country. Don't stop there, record more stuff and send it out to independent labels in your style. Join DIY show planning groups on facebook, ask around and connect with the booking guys in each city, try to plan small tours near you. Having Digital Only releases makes you look like a joke, get out there and meet people, sell shit and then people will start to take your music seriously.

Haven't played guitar in about 10 years and looking to get back into it. What's a cheap acoustic guitar I should buy for this? Looking for something good for finger-picking

>>73648537
>>73648631
Get a load of this faggot. Not caring for the grammy's isn't anything to do with "anti establishment", you brain dead fucking cunt.

Award shows are fundamentally anti-music. You know nothing, run along now with the "cuck", and we all know it's you who is the cuck anyway. You love watching that porn don't ya?

>You probably use the word pleb outside of 4chan
Many people do this. 4chan didn't invent the word, nor even popularise it.

>Remember, the music you like has nothing to do with you as a person.
How stupid are you, honestly? Are you baiting?

>>73648813
yes thanks I can read and I find that answer rather unsatisfying

that's not a description of what your music feels like, that's your goal and your personal achievement and I don't give a shit about that

so your music is "amtospheric"
a pretty bland term

>>73648843
3/4 yamaha fd

>>73648843
Yamaha usually make good guitars for the price

>>73648879
Atmospheric is not a bland term, its just a very generalized term.

It's true, it doesn't explain what my music is actually doing, it just gives a very generalized idea of what it is.

You could just listen to my music and see what's it's doing, it will describe it better than words.

>>73648892
Can I ask why a 3/4?
>>73648898
Also, thanks for recs

>>73648870

>being a teenager

Hurts to look back on.

>>73648817

Seconded.

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everyone who doesnt recognize the genius behind crazyaga's compositions is a brainlet and belongs in pic related.

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>>73648937
for fingerpicking the ideal guitar is 00 body but i don't know if they sell them cheap. so look for that

>>73648817
solid advice, thanks

Teach me /gg/, how do I get good at improv?
I am practising scales but it feels like I'm just playing random notes, doesn't even sound good.
How do I get a feel for which notes to play in combination?
Do I just need to keep practising?

>>73649006
Fair enough. My only concern is that I'm 6'6 with hands that can palm a basketball, so we might have different ideas of ideal guitar sizes.

>>73649073
you need to learn some licks my man
you can start by imitating your favourite guitarists

>>73648987
>genius
In what way is anything he creates inventive, interesting or clever? Serious question

>>73649073
pick a key. pick a bassline/rhythem in the key and play it in the background and just play
>>73649094
seconding this

Has anyone else noticed that Roman can't seem to do more than a couple of his "personalities" at a time? Like right now "Samuel" is nowhere to be seen. He was doing "Brandon" earlier but when "Crazyaga" started getting more replies he dropped him. Just an observation but maybe it could be used against him somehow.. ?

>>73649094
That's a good idea, I will focus a bit more on that.

>>73649121
I'm trying that, but it's not really working.

>>73649110
Show me another artist that makes music that sounds like my music. i can't.

Aniway, we get it anon, you don't like my music. i 100% respect that. why can't you move on and respect the perspective of people who do like it?

>>73649073
A good book is Hal Crook - How to Improvise

Take some lessons with jazz players and learn what they're thinking about when they're soloing. Be conscious of what notes you are playing and the relations between them. Practice practice practice.

>>73648954
All good artists have a childlike aura to them. Even Hitler did

You weren't meant to be making music, you just want to because you like the extras it comes with

You like the idea of being a musician, but you aren't willing to travel the distance

>>73649187
I was just asking. I don't think your music is bad, just not very interesting. The reason you can't name an artist that sounds like you is because no one has ever gained any recognition for making music like that. It's kind of boring desu...

>>73649187
i didn't even listen to your music once. what makes you think people stalk and harass you?

>>73649187
post your music and i'll tell you

Hello
I am the new guitar hero
(get it, like the game)
Ignore this other guy I will make good music for you now.

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finished sanding. now hoping it gets a literal sunburst, and the fretboard doesnt warp

>>73649152
i second this >>73649121
>How do I get a feel for which notes to play in combination?
you practice your scales so you start to know their sounds.
also practice your ear for intervals.
also listen to your favorite guitarists and pay attention to their phrasings and note choices.

>>73649150
thats an insult, i'm not roman i was out sanding my guitar.

>>73649274
i will make an exception and actualy hear your music before i filter yu

>>73648929
but I asked you
when you grab your guitar, you want to achieve that sound, right?

how would you describe it
with your words

stop bullshitting me, I've listened to your track
you don't really want to hear my thoughts

>>73649263
i already did (and someone else ITT did it, too)

I could, for you, share one of my many pieces that are not shared online yet. but idk about doing that.

>>73649227
Well if you think my music is not interesting that's your opinion, but my music is something that i genuinely miss in the musical landscape

>>73649316
lol dude that's not going to work. It will take weeks out in the sun for polyurethane to change colors.

>>73649333
Well link me to it faggot, I'm not searching through this shit hole of a thread for it.

I'll tell you what I think of it

>>73649352
yeah, ill leave it there every day

>>73649382
https://soundcloud.com/matanken/the-way-the-earth-circles-aroud-the-sun-makes-me-feel-dizzy

>>73646770
i cant believe that such a small piece of wood that is that squarey neck joint can have any noticeable effect on tone or sustain

>>73649219

What's this got to do with you being a teenager?

>>73649436

>>73649436

>>73649436

>>73649424
It's just you playing shit with a delay on. There is no purpose to your music, it's just there, doing nothing, hanging about.
What do you mean this is what the musical landscape is missing? Are you fucking delusional? This shit is done to death. There are tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of musicians that sound like this.

No energy
No passion
No movement

Jesus Christ the internet really made everyone believe they're a god didn't it? Fuck this gay board

>>73649519
Meant for >>73649402

>>73649519
It's not "just playing shit with a delay on". it uses a delay, sure, but if you think there is no purpose to this song you really don't get it.

also, the closest artist i know made something like it is Slowdive in their album Pygmalion, but it's not quite like my music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjXchdQHMEE

>>73649519
And btw, you are 90% this guy >>73648879 samefagging, looking at your post

>>73649552
No, you are just fucking delusional and ignorant
But you do whatever you want anyway

>>73649582
I'm neither delusional or ignorant

And you are still incapable of providing a single song that sounds quite like my music

>>73648879
>>73649581
No, I'm not that guy at all, you delusional fuck
Don't even use similar word choices, or punctuation, etc.

Anything to avoid honest criticism eh? Get the fuck out of here. Get mommy to buy you another pedal

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>>73649333
you just play chords with a progressive picking with a lot of delay and reverb

you're not even trying some incredibly hard chords, you're not even trying
no track beat, it's always your boring ass guitar
no experimentation
don't even get me started on that "piano" track of yours
that track is 7 months old, the new stuff is boring and not very interesting

I was asking for a definition for your music , and you can't give me that because you're a unique snowflake


also, pic related
I guess I'm the 10%


you should be more humble anyway

>>73649619
I'm now 95% sure you are the same guy

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>>73649630
You're 100 percent wrong dumb fuck