/prod/ Music Production General

>>73030005

Steve Duda videos are usually very insightful. This interview (3 parts) is the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOUkI5hH2HY

>>73030005
https://instaud.io/YxR

This is an early sketch for a new track.

Any comments/feedback appreciated.

>>73030740
This is an interesting track, got really cool around 1:10 and the keys around 1:30 are dope. I'd say keep developing it, the only thing I can critique is that the listener might abandon ship too early and miss out on some of the best parts, so perhaps try to make the beginning a little more interesting so that the listener doesn't mistakenly think they have the track all figured out early on.

Why is this thread so fucking dead? Post yr goddamn tracks buckos.
Here's an old ass beat I made in like 2012 from a sample I took from a VHS tape which I'm thinking of revamping, let me know what y'all think:
https://clyp.it/mnfvxttx

>>73030740
Funk style but jazzy reverb, gotta dry it out. Dirty it up too. Feels like there should be a soft kick on the last eighth note of the drum loop to help drive it forward, there's this start and stop feel to it that I'm not into and it isn't reflected in the constant driving shakers.

>>73031118
i was just about to close his music but then i read your post. So, this.

>>73030740
Like if Bohren did a guy ritchie film

>>73031207
>>73031118
>>73031253
thanks for the feedback. will do.

Don't got nothing near finished at the moment, got this I made while trying out Cobalt. I like it, it's pretty neat. Paired it with some Fairlight drums to further the 80s sound, despite going a super eurobeat direction.

https://clyp.it/kkq3ox2m

>>73031190
I think you've got way too many kicks happening in your rhythm. You've already got a solid 1234 1234 [softly] 1234 1234 in the harp sample, let that provide your rhythm. It's very percussive sounding. I'd consider going on the 1 and 4 in the loop like K--kS--- and whatever you want after that snare since the 1 and 4 sound most accentuated in the harp.

>>73030005
>~NO SOUNDCLOUDS ALLOWED~
>~NO SOUNDCLOUDS ALLOWED~
>~NO SOUNDCLOUDS ALLOWED~
>~NO SOUNDCLOUDS ALLOWED~
>~NO SOUNDCLOUDS ALLOWED~

stop changing the fucking sticky if you're not going to make it better -__________________________________-

Why can't we post soundclouds? I only have stuff uploaded there.

>>73031508
Sometimes people just post their personal accounts for attention and don't offer anything in return. Having a solid negative reaction to all Soundclouds helps to prevent that.

https://clyp.it/5dj3fwpy
>rough unmixed excerpt


This is very rough, but should i pursue this direction ?

>>73031523
>for attention
>clyp.it/sdkljfasdf;asdany thoughts?

fucking producers man.

>>73031508
just upload it to clyp, you're supposed to be asking for advice

i just had a look at a wdywt thread on /fa/ and it's amazing how pissy people get if you post your fit and you didn't reply to anybody. /prod/ should be the same posting clyps, or at least ask for specific advice

>>73031433
Opinion: It's a little busy. I think between the syncopation, blistering tempo, and smorgasbord of instruments, it's a bit hard for me to get much out of it.

>>73031595
I don't have the source mp3s anymore, they were on a computer that went belly-up. Maybe I can just get a critique for Stormpilot?

https://soundcloud.com/search?q=starlings%20swarming

>>73030005
Link to the previous threads you nigger

>>73031571
I'm imagining this as a noise crescendo/interlude into a fully formed track, otherwise it's just too many competing voices. Is that kind of what you're going for?

>>73031442
>-__________________________________-
Chill hoe, I had saved all of the resources but not the entire sticky, I was pretty sure the no sc allowed thing was all I was missing.

Why don't you make the fucking thread next time instead of leave a void for me to fill. /prod/ should be 100% upkeep nigga, I want a /prod/ thread every time I visit /mu/

>>73031681
so download them from your soundcloud........................................

Hopefully this thread won't be derailed by the guy who supposedly goes to gollege but can't install a program or use Google.

>>73031908
>the no sc allowed

was at the end. whoever changed it. what you posted is not it

>>73031908
>I want a /prod/ thread every time I visit /mu/

same but the threads tend to die once they get bigger. i used to try keeping them going but people are kind of shitty. i'll give fuck loads of responses to clyps and 9/10 times nobody comes back to follow up

>>73031920
that guy was a faggot

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>>73030005
Working with some new sounds, not quite sure how to polish this, feedback and comments are much appreciated, thanks y'all.

https://clyp.it/5u0dsasm

>>73032216
there's nothing happening. I have nothing to listen to. Give me better structure and melody then we can talk sound design

sample... your ass!

imogen heap done that, slapped her ass put it on that record. the butt one.

hey guys, i wanna start producing in my room, i have the instruments but can anybody recommend me some cheap/good preamp and a program to mix in my pc?

>>73032345
>cheap/good preamp
>doesn't exist

ur22>the 2i2 people will recommend you because they don't know what they're talking about

as for a daw, reaper if you want a free one (don't worry it's fine)

ableton if you want to do electronic music.... it honestly doesn't matter. jus pick one and learn it really well. protools supposedly has better comping tools though. i wouldn't know.

>>73032345
You have recording interface or are looking for one with builtin preamps?

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>>73032257
Appreciate the honesty, gives me some sense of direction, ill be back with a more focused track.

>>73032407
i would prefer to have an explanation on the difference of those two

>>73032406
i have a ur22 and no problems with it

>>73032424
Recording interface is an interface between analog inputs (instruments) and a computer(digital). It may or may not have built-in preamps and you may or may not want better ones (tubes)

>>73032445
hmm, in that case can you tell me of a preamp with a built in please?

>>73032460
What you're looking for is a recording interface. It's not in and of itself a preamp, but it may have preamps. Try googling for some recording interfaces and decide what you need (number/type of inputs etc.) Important thing to keep in mind especially with desktop versus rack-mounted interfaces is that their total number of advertised inputs is based on their expandability through daisy-chaining etc, so be sure the interface in fact has as many physical analog inputs as you need

>>73032499
ok thanks for answering, i will be searching a recording interface
>>73032406
thanks for the daw, just downloaded and will start searching tutorials when i finish searching for the other thing

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https://clyp.it/dvqiivfv
sup bwas. Made this intro today. Where do you see this going?

>>73032569
makes me remember of the intro of earthbound, i like it, care to share more?

>>73032580
>care to share more
of what nigguh its a wip

>>73031595
>i just had a look at a wdywt thread on /fa/ and it's amazing how pissy people get if you post your fit and you didn't reply to anybody. /prod/ should be the same posting clyps, or at least ask for specific advice

I guess the issue is that the people who need the most advice are the last people you want giving others advice. Agreed that being more specific would definitely be a good thing though, I never bother listening to the
>clyp.it/sdkljfasdf;asdany thoughts?
posts.

>>73032639
i mean more of your work brah

>>73032641
>the last people you want giving others advice.

it's the being specific that bothers me the most. a lot of the time the track just sucks so i don't really know what to tell them besides "keep practicing and try to start mixing"

>>73032650
sure, here, just 4 u.
https://clyp.it/45jhsnse
https://clyp.it/oijw5x23
anybody who's been here a while has heard these

>>73032735
thanks brah, didnt notice cause i got here like 10 min ago

>>73032708
Something I do is I think about what I would do if I opened an old project to work on and their track was it, just to get in the right mindset. What here do I want to keep, what's the real essence here, what's working together, what's not, etc.

>>73032708
tfw people say shit like just sidechain

>>73032756
As a newish (6 months) producer that style of advice is by far the most helpful, without extensive technical knowledge it can be difficult to get the sounds you hear to the sounds being played.

>>73032756
hmmm... i'll keep that in mind

>>73032757
sometimes it's easier to say that than telling them they need to rewrite half the song because two synth parts are clashing the entire time

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>>73030005
https://clyp.it/b0rrw2uu
im writing a song using vocaloid cause i cant sing- any thoughts on the mix? im not a very good prod person so im trying to work on it and any thoughts would be nice
ty

>>73030005
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNBiLBQrKrnvwcVRD5fS8aA

Michael New's channel, lots of song writing info delivered in easy to understand phrasing with a delivery that isn't monotone.

>>73032961
There's something off with the right guitar (is it on beat?) anyway you should let it fade out from the first part and record that same part differently, mic'd farther back with some verb maybe, and then bring it back the same when it picks up.

Also the stereo field is fucky, mostly the drums. Go easy with the panning on everything. You've probably heard "mix in mono" before, and I think that would help you tame everything before you spread it out. Good song though man, please post more stuff we need more rock and guitar based music in /prod/ :3

>>73033652
>we need more rock and guitar based music in /prod/ :3
No we don't

>>73033661
oh sorry you're right, I don't get tired of bland trap and electro with the same obscure and poor sampling anyway :^)

>>73031368
>>73031207
>>73031118

Worked a lot more on that track.
Is something completely different now, I think a lot better. What do you think?

https://instaud.io/YzV

>>73033710
Rhythmically unapproachable imo. The bass and drums don't seem to be working with the electric piano or shakers, like they're different songs that happen to be playing at the same time. Nothing seems to be shared rhythmically or harmonically from what I can pick up.

Try writing a new bassline and see how sparse you can make it. Use as few notes as possible each 4 or so bars, just enough to keep the rhythm going forward. Not necessarily sustained notes, the current staccato is fine.

With the drums I can't tell where the emphasis is, I think it'd be easier for me to latch onto if you put some variation in the velocity, maybe even control a soft lowpass with the velocity so quieter hits are a little less bright. Currently it's like every single note in the rhythm is accented and I can't stand it, not in my current late night state at least.

>>73033710
This is me >>73031118
Sounds a LOT better, anon. I dig what you have going on now. Disagree with this guy >>73033818
about it being "rhythmically unapproachable", but I would advise you go for slightly less generic-sounding drum samples because it feels out of place given all of the incredible jazz vibes surrounding it. Not sure why you change it up so early, but it's an interesting switch. Keep working on it, it has serious potential I think.

>>73033818
fair enough.
I'll work on it, thanks dude, good advice.

>>73033896
thanks, i will.
Maybe more acoustic sounding drums?

>>73033910
That, or go looking for (slightly) more out-there synthetic samples, your choice. Given the aesthetic of the track, I don't want to be able to identify the drum samples you use, which I can currently

Guys. I just got Logic Pro today and it's fucking changed everything. In 12 hours I've written three songs that are all keepers, which never ever happens. Everything is just flowing now

I expected it to be complete shit and now it might be my preferred DAW

>>73033964
https://instaud.io/YAh rendered a fragment with different snares

Also eased up a bit in the beginning on the bass like >>73033818 said.

I modulated some shit here and there on some samples and came up with these sounds for snares. What do you think? Kept the original in there alternating. Think it kind of fits alternating. Maybe not.

EARS WANTED

https://clyp.it/4ak2g3ft

Does it sound in tune?
Is anything clashing?
I need some confidence here. Thank you.

>>73034341
I like it alternating sounds dope. The only bit I don't like there is the sorta brushed cymbal sound that comes in about 1 minute

>>73034538
Nothing out of tune as far as I can tell but those drums do not go with the piano at all. The piano is all nice folky plink plonk while the drums are straight out of synth hip hop genres like trap, doesn't work imo.

>>73034611
Thanks, I was worried about the piano. And yeah I guess the instruments and drums are weird together but it's kind of a stylistic choice

Anyone have experience paying mixing engineers using platforms such as UpWork or Fiver?

We are an experimental rock band who has recorded and have a rough mix done of our stuff, wan't to pass it on to someone who works in Ableton Live 9 and carry out mixing requests.

Having mixed feelings about what we have achieved so far (either they aren't good at instructions or can't do it on Ableton).

>>73032406
> ur22>2i2
Why that? Been thinking about getting either one, but haven't decided yet.

>>73034002
Logic is way underrated if you ask me. It used to be the industry standard' but I guess a lot of the smaller Daws have caught up now and are marketed a bit better.

still in the making / mixing stage so please excuse the fact that it ain't loud.

what could I do to develop it further?

https://clyp.it/b5m1kotu

What's the most you should spend on an interface?

>>73034341
this is really sick mate, loving it.

>>73036026
It all depends on what you're going to use it for.

If it's just for a pair of monitors and some headphones a 2i2 should be good.

If you need many inputs, with advanced controls, and all the bells and whistles, then you might want to spend significantly more.

>>73030005
https://clyp.it/lk2mns0y
rate?

>>73036158
3/10

Made this 3 days ago. Not really knowing all that much about production and am a FLStudiofag, but maybe you could still tell me what you think:
https://clyp.it/mkzfdgp1

>>73036250
if your goal was to absolutely rape my ears then you succeeded

>>73036100
thx much m80. much appreciated

>>73036426
Well, I was trying to make hard hitting industrial track. I guess a lot of compression and distortion is important.
Whith that goal in mind, what should I change?

Raped my own ears making this, what do you guys think?
https://clyp.it/drvpxsyg

I think this track is finished for an EP I'm working on.
The last one to finish. Really hope it's good.

Does this sound like a good final mix to be mastered?

https://instaud.io/YBL

>>73037268
>https://clyp.it/drvpxsyg

Dude, the sound is superdope.

Really strong production.

Those menacing basses that come in now and then are great.

Great attention to details.

I think this deserves a subtle melody on top, try to do something BOC-ish. slightly detuned and warm.


This is me
>>73037338

I could really use your ears for this track. Do you think it's okay as a final mixdown?

>>73037338
love this, are you the same as >>73034341?

also, SC?

>>73037391
Yub, the same.

sc = /lucinate

>>73037419
popped you a follow. could you provide any more info on this EP release?

this really is the kind of stuff I could get into, stuff with great detail. Sort of reminds me of Skalpel but with a lot more complexity

>>73033652
ty v much, this actually means a ton that im getting actual feedback

>>73037513
sure, sent you a message on sc

http://www.hollowsun.com/simmons.zip

Bunch of Simmons SDSV, SDS400, Pearl Syncussion, Pearl DRX, and Claptrap samples for italo disco and synthwave and such.

>>73038396
On top of that http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=1028 here's a Simmons SDS-V style drum synthesizer. It's not quite as good as the samples but you can adjust the synthesis and just pop on some effects to make it sound better.

wrote this in 10 minutes

https://clyp.it/imff1exd

>>73038836
this is literally gagging for a trap beat underneath it

>>73038881
that's what i was thinking of adding, some sub bass and some sprinkler hats

could i get some ears on >>73036006 ?

How would one make the dreamy arpeggiated synth in the very beginning of this?

https://youtu.be/uDjKl1ZfeoE?t=1

>>73035600
The 2i2 is completely lacking in headroom for recording even compared to other cheapo interfaces, it makes recording way harder than it should be.

There's really not any reason to pick the Scarlett, search it on gearslutz and the ur22 is pretty much universally favored

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>>73030005
some clipping i know

https://clyp.it/us0bb0qn

now that im back from college i have all of my real equipment so i set up my rack and synths yesterday and recorded this at 4 in the morning -- i could really use some feedback on this because i'm thinking about adding vocals to it but i'm not sure if the middle section works. i like it but i'd like to get someone elses opinion on it

https://clyp.it/j2w0tbo5

>>73039202
sounds like a digital subtractive synth
if youre using a plugin you might want to do a two oscillator sawtooth slightly out of tune but not so out of tune -- maybe a couple of cents or so. set the plugin to mono and then in midi write out the entire chord you want it to sweep with and then set whatever your midi arpeggiator plugin is to 64th notes and for it to sweep up and down. then add a stereo tremolo or chorus or reverb or whatever you want
>>73038881
i like it without a beat -- i think it's good standalone
>>73038396
thanks! i cant use the vst because mac but the samples are extremely useful
>>73036006
>>73039024
american football? i think the intro is really boring but it picks up after the intro. the verse vocals are kind of annoying. the entire thing feels a little directionless: i think i like each part individually but they dont work as a whole (especially that wobbly lead synth)

>>73040288
>https://clyp.it/j2w0tbo5
that snare really gets lost in the mix, bass could be a little louder, everything sounds a little like it's sitting on each other frequency wise

>>73032275
Lol

>>73030740
>>73033710

https://instaud.io/YD7

Last update for today on this track.

I made it a bit more glitchey, almost like breakcore. I think it has a lot more interest now.

Man those minute edits.. takes such concentration. Guys like Squarepusher and Aphex have insane deep concentration.

>>73040507
thanks! i'll do some eqing and repost it here.

>>73040594
>>73040507
https://clyp.it/cpjmlwge
mind taking a listen?

how did he even get this aesthetic? I've gotten similar stuff with parallel distortion, but I don't think he did that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAxrsg0T8GU

>>73040893
mix is better, needs something else though. some reverb on the snare maybe, depends on what sound you are happy with

music wise it seems a bit repetitive, just my opinion, maybe thats what you're going for

>>73041042
yeah im far from done
i usually try to make songs interesting by building on layers instead of building on sections so i still have about 8 or so tracks to record and plaster on at different sections
and i like keeping the drum machine dry on this since everything is super wet
thank you
>>73040931
sounds like tape to me

https://clyp.it/1qix1rjf
heavy beats
y/n?
sampled sufjan, death grips, asap rocky, and gangsta boo

>>73035305
if you're just looking to get a mix done why do they need to be in ableton..? you should just be sending out stems.

also i'm 99% sure your having a rough mix already (maybe you're looking to send the project..?) doesn't matter and they'd prefer to get dry stems. usually if it's effects that are necessary to the song you'd send dry and wet stems so they can mix it appropriately.

anyone else listen to something old stuff they made and think it's better than what they are currently making? idk if it's because it's older and I forgot all the errors or if it's because I'm retarded.

>>73041610
Yeah

>>73041610
uhh how much older?

if i felt that way i'd be really freaked and try to produce a few more hours a day than i already am.

it's usual to forget about small errors that stuck out to you while you were making it though, not retarded at all.

Anyone know how they got the drums in yoshimi battles the pink robots pt. 1?

>>73041649
they don't sound particularly special, just drum samples dude. sounds slightly 808ish to me, i'm not sure the full extent you can actually program them, it's definitely not just the canned sound you normally hear from it.

>>73041630
some of them are a few years old, even if they aren't technically better than what I'm doing now they seemed way more creative.

https://clyp.it/bosm55nr

Laying off samples for a while, trying some original compositions so I can score my game. Need some feedback.

Does anyone write their chord progression on a staff? What's the benefit? I can't think of any except for feeling more important.

sample roulette?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV_xgKfW8yE

>>73041847
ehh. feels like a bunch of random notes. just play with like a standard progression and make some nice melodies. this is way too amelodious

>>73041230
i'm going to have to go with no. i like what's gonig on in the first third but the parts with vocals in the sample don't sound that great

>>73040178
the acoustic in the intro is too dry, i think it would suit the song to sound like it's coming far away. i think it could also be spiced up in the rest as well, try to record in stereo or double track it if you can do it accurately.

on the harmonized part of the solo, i think the second guitar could be a bit brighter or use some chorus or something also.

>>73041802
try experimenting or use some new instruments then..? i've felt that way before. i purposefully make sure i'm not programming a patch in my usual way or try to use a synth or technique i don't usually use in that case.

>>73041847
oooooooh a game :)
i know it's supposed to be a little jazzy but that little synth pluck sounds a little to off the chords occasionally and it sticks out... at least to me. i think it's that chromatic descent mostly. good song man

listening a second time: the synth that comes in at 0:54 should be louder, and for what it sounds like you're trying to do thrown in the back pretty wet in reverb rather than quieter. i barely noticed the pad that comes in at the end too... maybe make it more obvious. most of the voicings are pretty up there actually.

>>73041951
some people just read music well..?
if your songs actually change key and use any outside notes it would be easier to keep track of what's going on

>>73041968

I like the progression but sure perhaps the melodies may be all over the place.

>>73042000
Thanks for listening. The "pluck synth" are you talking about the one that shows up at 0:21 or maybe were you hearing the highs of the bass?

>>73041735
Is it compression on the sample to get it to sound poppy like that ?

>>73042363
At 21 or a little after definitely. i can tell the bass l lol

>>73042379
are you talking about the actual drums sounds or how they're mixed? flaming lips have used compression on drums in some cool ways but this doesn't sound like one of those cases. maybe they did in parallel for a bit of dirt but they don't sound particularly "snappy" or anything if that's what you meant

>>73042575
I mean they sound kind of distorted, almost like someone was beatboxing. How was this effect achieved?

>>73042612

I would get a similar effect by putting the samples under a diode processor effect and EQing.

>>73042667
>diode processor
>DISTORTION

>>73042612
beatboxing???
okay yeah it's probably the comp

i noticed it on parts of one of their other albums that i can't recall- it's just compressing the shit out of it. in this song, the drums aren't sapped of their attack though. set up a compressor in parallel, no attack or release, highish ratio (6+ experiement) bring down the threshold until you get the effect you want, slowly bring up the compressed track to color the original. ezpz

>>73042812
>>73042667
Trying it out as soon as I get the chance. Thanks anons

https://clyp.it/xpokemnu

house track snippet. thoughts?

>>73043088
sounds like an unfinished intro still \(._.)/

>>73043216
>>73043088
i'd come at it in the next part with some layered pad, and a bass / kick that reinforces the chords really hard, and then bring it back down but keep a softish kick going with some singing <.<

>>73043216
no glaring issues yet though?
>>73043253
fanks :)

what do the lads at /prod/ think of my little dub/house thing
https://clyp.it/b5b5uexo

>>73043403
i like it

>>73043403
i dislike it

>>73043269
well i just noticed there's a practically inaudible bass, leading me to believe the intention wasn't to make everything sound tiny as possible. everything thing sounds tiny and i think you should remix the drums completely. the sounds are fine, though i think you could do better with the clap.

>>73043487
>>73043521
what did he mean by this

>>73043581
cool ty!

>>73043597
i'm pretty sure that was two people unless i forgot about making the first post desu <.<

>>73043671
U got memed on Senpai

>>73044126
I know what he meant it was just banter baka

>>73035305
Those sort of sites, especially if you go for the cheap option, are full of pajeets who can barely do what they are saying they can and just try to wing it.

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>>73043521
HE DISLIKES IT

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this sounds like ass
but it was fun to record

https://clyp.it/r5dm5q10

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Can I get a r8? Anything that I can do better?

https://clyp.it/i1ggldnk

>>73045066
>https://clyp.it/r5dm5q10
really cool... very driving.

>>73041230
yes for sure. I love the industrial gritty bass! You need to bring your vocals out more and maybe not cut off the highs so much (i.e. you're missing a lot of the high end).
>Could definitely see this making its way into a fresh dj set.

>>73041847
Just sounds like jumbled notes man. The progression is good but you need to have a melodic flow to the song. I agree with >>73041968
>desu not something pleasant to listen to, but has potential

>>73043403
For a minimal dark house, it sounds nice. However I do think you may need a bit more samples or something to add some flair.
>it'd be a good beat to study to

>>73041601
Mainly for editing and educational purposes. Would be nice to have it shared across the least amount of platforms as possible. I've heard this can effect the stems and they can lose quality?

Another thing is where we have used warp markers to edit tiny mistakes. If I collect and save as, will the stems he gets have the warp markers already added in so i don't have to edit when I get it back?

Thanks for the advice.

>>73043403
>https://clyp.it/b5b5uexo
That kick is lovely. Overall very spacy and minimal yet warm and a bit groovy.

>>73046018

"Collect And Save" in Ableton doesn't change anything in your project except for the location of the source audio files, in that the collection process creates copies of all audio and places it in the chosen project folder - the saved project will now reference these files regardless of where your audio was originally stored. Warp markers are kept intact for the copied audio so you'll have no issues there.

It sounds very much like you're looking to pass this mix to someone so you can learn from what they go on to do to your mix - would that be a fair guess? If so, it might be worth mentioning that to your chosen engineer, so they can (if they're feeling benevolent enough) be more descriptive with their crib notes - it'll help you follow their decision-making better.

>>73046018
Exporting stems doesn't effect quality since you'll be exporting lossless wavs. I don't know what you mean about educational purposes unless you mean you're intending to sit in on the session, in which case, it still doesn't matter- any mixing applied is still applicable in ableton.

Yes, I'm fairly sure collect and save will save the warp marks, but again, you should be sending stems. Instead of exporting the master, just select "export all tracks" or whatever from the drop down

a bumparoo from me to you~

>>73046418
>>73046377

So we recorded, edited everything in Abelton best we could (rough levels we would like, hard edits in regards to any mistakes we have done, light placement of instruments). We then send the workspace to an engineer with comprehensive instructions on how we wan't each instrument to sound (using reference tracks from songs we like) and he/she will send it back and we say if we are happy/what we'd like changed etc.

Good to know that if I save and collect all, the warp markers will now be added in to the wav. stem. Also good to know that moving wav's across platform and bouncing them will not deteriorate in any way.

As for the person saying earlier we should send dry, the only things we have on there are tiny effects from plugins like slight reverb, basic eq etc. He can just turn them off. They are more there for him to get a rough idea for the sound we want (and also using the reference tracks we have provided - eg. Make the kick drum sound like Hammocks - The House Where We Grew Up, Guitars to be wide and sparse like Mogwai - Scotlands Shame).

Thanks for all the responses, appreciate it.

>>73040521
OH MY GOD ANON THIS HITS ME IN ALL THE RIGHT SPOTS. makes me feel like a badass while listening to it

do you have a sc? I want to make music like this but with more edm inffluence

found stems to shake it off and made this.

https://clyp.it/evtygypp

what have i done?

>>73047631
nigga you literally just moved the vocals back like 1/4 beat or some shit, other than that it's fucking indistinguishable from the original

why the fuck would you make this? you can't even call this a remix, just a dogshit edit that would annoy anyone who's an actual fan of the original.

re-evaluate yo life nigga

>>73040521
>https://instaud.io/YD7
This shit is fucking cool mane. It was dope watching it develop into this from the first draft you posted

>>73047486
anon, this is his soundcloud, he posted it earlier:
>>73037419

Anybody wanna share the favorite drum kits? Miss me with that EDM shit.

>>73047761
>he doesn't get it

>>73045066
interesting modular, kinda jelly because mine is fairly basic.

>>73047461
Wav is a recorded sound, the warp markers aren't saved in the wav, just the altered sound

I have to reiterate because you're limiting yourself with the ableton requirement- export all stems completely dry so any mix engineer can use them, most pros are on protools. It's okay to send your own rough mix, but if they're not that drastic they'll probably refer more to the reference track.

>>73047461
If they are using ableton it wont be an issue, but if they are using another DAW then take off all the effects before sharing the stems, got ya.

Thanks

feedback on mixing pls

https://clyp.it/aezmwm13

only vocals and lead guitar remaining

Beat maker here Working on this atm any thoughts? https://clyp.it/l5odnobm

>>73049748 <---- Me

>>73043403
>https://clyp.it/b5b5uexo
I like it so far, Got a spacey/underwater vibe to it.
>>73045066
>https://clyp.it/r5dm5q10
This is nice, The farty vocal makes it ass imo
>>73045776
>https://clyp.it/i1ggldnk
It's really nice just need more added to it
>>73048930
This is insane if you played all the instruments yourself, Cant really give any input on the mixing since i haven't mixed stuff like this but sounds like it got a 80's mix to it.

>>73050050
played all the guitars. the drums are programmed (ezdrummer) and theyre what i think would be the hardest work if they were actually recorded
theres not much going on really, 2 acoustics close miked, 2 guitars and a bass DId with amplitube with a bit of EQing and slate digital plugins.

i'm fucking garbage at changing up progressions throughout a track :(

https://clyp.it/vtfjc0lp

>>73048930
Just listened on apple ear buds and it sounds like the bass is too loud.

Sounding good so far but I'm thinking it'll sound like too much with vocals and another guitar.

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>>73030005
Just made this short rhythm loop. Going for a 90's hip-hop style but i'm not quite nailing it. Help me out guys, any advice?

https://clyp.it/ynfbtt3i

>>73051803
Sample your hits from breaks to get a 90s hip hop sound. Your pattern isn't stereotypical for that sound either, you want kick on 1 and snares on 2 and 4 every bar and a constant hat pulse rather than just on the off beat 8ths, then use syncopated kicks and ghost snares to add interest.

You can vary from this obviously but that'll get you the basic template.

>>73051803
(Same about the constant pulse of hats)

Replace the samples probably yeah, but you need to make tnhem groove way harder too

Also that bass should be smoooooth dude, sounds like you got a bit of drive in it. Play a bit lighter and with your fingers

https://clyp.it/vaxdwljp

does this sound depressing enough

>>73052256
>>73052368
Thanks doods, working on it now.

Bass is actually a sample from this song
https://youtu.be/OUyGtVyi2jA

>>73052539
Not quite. Sounds good, just not really depressing

>>73052593
Introspective and thought provoking?

>>73052610
Nostalgic for me, It's got XXYYXX vibes

>>73052681
Hehe glad it inspired some vibes

Any resources about using chords out of the scale? These are the chords to croketts theme from Miami vice and a fair amount of them are out of the scale, but are still coherent.

Dmin first inv
Fmaj
Cmaj 2nd inv
Ebmaj
Cmin 2nd inv
Gmin

>>73052781
it's called modulation, genius

I was just fucking around on Ableton and I know it's just a shitty wannabe trap beat, but is the sample off beat with the drums?
It's not mixed/mastered yet fair warning, but my ears are shit right now
https://clyp.it/zxifo1og

>>73053604
also dont mind the shitty snare roll transition forgot to delete that

>>73052559
Then a transient shaper and hella eq then aye <.<

>>73052781
I think that's more something that you interpret in hindsight rather than approach with "learning" about it.

I guess that g from the Eb maj leads into the next two chords..???

Shared notes and paying attention to the leading tones is all that I ever think about modulating the shit out of chord progressions.

Listen to David Bowie and more jazz shit and learn them inside and out...

>>73053551
Modulating is changing the key, not using borrowed chords friend.

>>73053604
It does sound off. Try chopping the sample and placing them on a grid with some reverb to draw out the tails- warping them will probably sound too weird

>>73053665
alright thanks, i'm gonna try that

Can some of you help me out?
I'm very new and just do music for fun and only have experience playing instruments and basic music theory knowledge.
How can I make sounds like these in something like massive?
https://soundcloud.com/sadwrist/rreitan
I can pay in BTC/ETH for a detailed reply. ;')

>>73054296
Detuned voices, possibly a lot of amp release, reverb before (a lot of) distortion, sidechained / rhythm gated really hard

Tf you talking about paying for, you need a ghost producer for that sc or something <.<

>>73054476
thanks
i just said that cause i really wanna fuck around with sounds like those and if someone takes a significant amount of time to help me out i would try to thank them in a way

>>73051251
thanks
it sounds really loud now to me that you pointed it

am i still banned
https://clyp.it/ttm1bshu

https://clyp.it/lsihvfni

As you can maybe hear, i'm still pretty new to this, so it'd be great if i can get some advice. How's he mixing? The arrangement? Is it loud enough?
I'm trying to make $uicideboy$-esque beats, but i feel it isn't dark enough and i'm nowhere near what $crim produces.

Does anybody here use the 2012 macbook pro for music prod? Im thinking of getting one and i need some advice.

>>73032216
>https://clyp.it/5u0dsasm
I like the feel, keep at it, but agree with different anon that it lacks direction.

Not that the track I'm currently working on has direction anyway.
https://clyp.it/tlabylqe
How does this sound, anyone?

>>73057449
>https://clyp.it/ttm1bshu
Why the farts though?

>>73052781
Wish I remembered the video that briefly went over it, but chords outside of the scale will sound coherent if they're chosen because they better resolve to the next chord. Fifths resolve very well to the tonic, so if you wanted a chord that would resolve well to a chord you'd just pop it up seven semitones.

You can also just use what sounds good, just have to decide what you want to accomplish with your chord choice.

is it too hard to write a good sounding midi drum track for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao9Rbr7uybQ

>>73059425
+ or if the previous chord better resolves to the chord outside of the scale

>>73050423
Vibe is great. I don't think it needs any big progression.

Maybe bring in another synth part at some point? Something in the same key, but played in contrast to the existing rhythm or melody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4dkou6De3s

Classic Synth Combinations, real 80s stuff. tl;dr DX7 EP + Strings, DX7 Bell + Strings, DX7 EP + Piano, DX7 Brass + Brass, I think that's it. Had that Roland box what used samples, the JD-990 maybe. If you got Korg's M1 VST you're gold.

>>73052781
>Any resources about using chords out of the scale?

It's whatever sounds good, not everything needs to be studied, test test and test

https://clyp.it/n1sdzgg5

thoughts on this?
I've been listening to this same 15 seconds for 90 hours now and my brain has collapsed in on itself.

>>73058005
Anyone?

>>73060081
some of those notes are out of tune

>>73060081
bass line pad is out of key with the higher pitched bells/pizzicatos/pianos

https://clyp.it/olz54bjj

https://clyp.it/ltmhpefn

https://clyp.it/lbru44aq

out of these three which is best... 3rd is probably more complete of the three.

>>73059964
You spend 90 hours on just 15 seconds? Can't wait to hear it, it must be really good!

>>73060246
what's your beef, stranger?

>>73058005
Musically, this is very incoherent, the bass pad seems to be out of key with the main plucks playing. That's the most important thing.

The mix isn't that bad for a newbie, I'd bring the kick out a bit more and accentuate the sub bassline a bit, maybe give it a couple more harmonics to get it closer to that 808 sound. And when all of that is done you can boost it by a couple more db's to get it nice and loud.

>>73058920
Pretty nice anon, I'd bring up those hi-hats a bit more and maybe automate the lowpass on the kick as it builds up so the kick gets some more high end eventually.

>>73059439
Nah

>>73059964
Pretty cool nu-disco stuff, but it lacks context for me to be able to judge it.

>>73060231
Chord progression on the first one reminds me of lean on, very subtle but I can hear it.

And yeah, I dig the third way way more than the other 2.

>>73060311
it was actually p good i liked it

>>73059698
I was thinking like a sort of solo near the end.

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>>73032961
https://clyp.it/kl2zon5b
so i took some advice and fixed up the mixing a bit and now things are mainly mono, but how do you experiment with panning without it being awkward? im really hung up on this because ive been listening to stuff like YHF where the drums are literally panned hard left and it still somehow works, if anyone could give me some advice that'd be great :)

>>73061605
also i forgot to add that i doubled the main distortion guitar left/right to add some stereo width kk

>>73060612
>I'd bring up those hi-hats a bit more and maybe automate the lowpass on the kick as it builds up so the kick gets some more high end eventually.
Thanks!
I wanted to add some glitchy perc effects here and there to add some variation, but I'm too tired today.

>>73049748
Sounds good.
My thought is to add some boom-y timpani/orchestral type hits on some downbeats

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whats good my dudes and dudettes

https://clyp.it/ridhvjas

can I get feedback on the mixing of this spicy track? I have a lot of concern about the climax part because I want it to melt faces but the shit keeps clipping when I try to master it. Right now I think it's working, and I also have some doubts about the bass in the second part of the track since I'm using two different basses and crossfading between them. I'd appreciate some feedback on that too. Thanks.

>>73060128
>>73060171
does key=scales?
I have little to no knowledge about music theory or whatever. I also use an Ableton Push.

>>73062545
>shit keeps clipping when I try to master it
fucking how........ use a hard limiter and check your gain staging dude

>>73062646
yeah I mean when I use a hard limiter and get it to the volume I want it has to duck shit especially in this part I'm talking about, but only in stereo. I guess I could just drop the volume a little bit. But overall I'd like to have feedback on how the climax compares to the rest of the track. I think I lost notion of this because I've heard it so many times.

>>73062784
the part starting around 2:05ish? much better than the first half of the track. I think you could mix in a bit of overdrive on the hats with some more intense variety in velocity, turn them down a good amount and it would sound more intense. reminded me of every planet we reach is dead just because of that part.

I like the distorted hits leading up to the climax, but I think you have a lot of polishing to do mixwise honestly. It has a lot of potential but sounding all washed out like that makes the first half sound like an extended intro. I just skipped that part on my first listen to see what you were talking about honestly, it was boring.

>>73062613
the bass line is playing in the wrong key meaning the notes that are being played aren't in a scale that matches the main melody being played. it clashes. it's discordant in a bad way. sounds displeasing.

https://clyp.it/clfkqqac

made an animal collective cover. get at me. let me know whats good. i don't like the instruments used but all I have is stock FL studio synths to work with at the moment.

>>73062545
It sounds very quiet, if you want it to be loud just throw in a limiter and pull the threshold down but it has to mixed nicely for that to work well.

>>73062613
Yeah, key=scales.

>>73063207
yeah I played so much with the gainstaging, ducking everything and trying to polish that I ended up with tracks peaking at -20 lmao but when I bring the gain up it sounds good.

>>73063029
I get where you're coming from with the first half of the track thing, but I think I'll keep it this way, I want it to be 'okay' in the beginning (maybe even a bit boring) because I want it to contrast really hard with the 2:05 thing. I'll play around with some samples though to keep it a bit more interesting.

Thanks a lot for your input, I appreciate it a lot.

alright I'm >>73036006, thanks >>73040288

https://clyp.it/zyh4xnx1

I've updated the track; added a new section, replaced the drums with a more fitting kit, changed the lyrics, shortened the intro, and a million other edits

I still need to add lyrics to the chorus so the lyrics make sense

thinking of turning the last section you hear in this clip into a middle 8 and having a final chorus or something at the end.

what do you think of this so far?

>>73063413
>I want it to be 'okay' in the beginning (maybe even a bit boring) because I want it to contrast really hard with the 2:05 thing

Keep in mind that you know the 2:05 bit is coming - first time listeners won't and they may well have lost interest and moved on and will never hear the part you're putting all of your stock into.

No harm in keeping intensity tamed for the first part of your song but if you also deliberately leave out details that add some interest you'll lose the listener.

>trying to transfer your audio workstation from your laptop to your desktop

I swear it's literally fucking impossible
it's a fragile patchwork of kludges and quickfixes used on all pirated software that barely works as it is, I don't know how I'm gonna migrate it and still have my projects work

is it even feasible

>>73064700
get better torrents then, bleb

>>73064725
that's the other problem. I accidentally let my audionews account with nearly a terrabyte of upload lapse and now I have like 1.5 gigabytes on my new one. I can't just re-download them all yet. shit sucks.

whats wrong with soundcloud?

>>73064803
self promotion

Would it be difficult to do all my music production using the music equipment in my library insted of doing it at home? I want to avoid spending money on things and owning more items. They have some synths, MIDI controllers and logic but If I took the time to learn logic to use it in the library, I wouldn't be able to do some stuff at home too becauz I don't hav a Mac. And they have a digital piano with 88 keys and I will need lots of keys for my music but if I had one for myself, it would be to big and space taking. I don't like buying things but don't like going outside either and there's less flexibility so I don't know how to decide how to produce and where.

>>73065107
just torrent ableton lol

So i busted out my old midi controller from high school and realized i have no idea what the fuck im doing.

Its much more satisfying to the ear to play the notes by hand but i completely forgot chords/scales and pretty much anything helpful. Trying to remember it is painful as well

can someone point me in the right direction for a quick and easy tutorial that will get me going again?

>>73065107
>If I took the time to learn logic to use it in the library, I wouldn't be able to do some stuff at home too becauz I don't hav a Mac.

everything you learn about synths and plugins is still applicable in other daws dummy.

Tbh this post is triggering like crazy- you're lucky as shit to live somewhere with a good library like that and you're not willing to take advantage of all that shit and you don't want to commit buy buying anything yourself either.

If you're not serious about making music then you can just torrent whatever daw and fuck around, it doesn't matter.

Reason is the Apple of DAWs.

>WHHEEEEE LOOK AT US WE JUST NOW DECIDED TO INTEGRATE STANDARD, DECADE OLD TECHNOLOGY INTO OUR SHITTY PLATFORM YAYYYYY

what is the best DAW and why is it live

https://clyp.it/nafvdak4
this is an older song Neuro/Breakcore song of mine that's nearly finished. I just need to re-write the intro and integrate the memegrips sample better.
You can safely skip the first ~1:28 of the song (please, skip it.) I really like 2:27-4:54.

but that's not why I'm posting it

the mastering is a pile of hot and sweaty ass. This seems to happen with every song of mine besides for minimal liquid funk. I think I just have too many instruments playing at the same time and occupying too many concurrent frequencies, but I don't want to drop any of the instruments because the song wouldn't be the same without them.

Sometimes I just want to start an/the entire song over from scratch. I know some big producers do it, and some do it all the time but I'm afraid the second (third, fourth...) iteration won't be as good or adhere to the soul of the song as well.

I like my songs but I just can't seem to shake that amateur funk.

how to finetune this mix

https://clyp.it/0fvjezgr

>>73066521
bruh Pro Tools just got offline bouncing like two years ago. We literally had to sit through an entire song in real time when we wanted to bounce it up until just recently. We just recently got the ability to freeze tracks or to bounce tracks to audio. Every new Pro Tools update is shit other daws were doing in 2005. If I want to automate volume, panning or plugins with a controller, I need one of a very small number of digi design-accepted controllers, most of which are thousands of dollars

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Is there any way in Ableton to prevent crackling and chirps beyond sample rate and buffer size?

I've got both set to produce as clean a sound as possible at maximum but when I record sustain grand piano through my keyboard the crackling and noiseblips is still there on the surface. Not even just in Ableton playback but even after rendering in the .wav I did for a test.

>>73066986
Getting a better CPU is the obvious suggestion. Bouncing other tracks to audio or freezing them to free up CPU is another

>>73066923
Agreed, pro tools is utter shit but at least they don't pretend like they are innovative

>>73066986
>when I record sustain grand piano through my keyboard the crackling and noiseblips is still there

You're recording the piano as audio - yes? If your recording has crackles on it when played back, and that are still present in the rendered mix, then the recording is being captured with the crackles on it, and there could be a few causes of that.

>Instrument output levels too high
What audio device are you using to record into, and have you made sure that your levels going into the device are not overdriving it?

>Audio device drivers
If you're getting crackling due to your recording buffer being set too small then we need to find out what your buffer is currently set to, and what kind of drivers you're using for your device in Ableton. ASIO/CoreAudio? WDM/DirectSound?

As >>73067017 mentioned CPU and RAM figure largely too, especially once you build higher track counts with processing on each, although if you're getting this problem with a single mono or stereo recording and nothing else is loaded in the DAW then your issue is elsewhere - what is your computer spec though out of interest, and (quite importantly) what other applications do you have running in the background?

https://clyp.it/clc5newp

What do you think of the reverse at the end?
Bass isn't done yet

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https://clyp.it/lniprrgm

Feedback would be great

>>73067320
Using ASIO. 64bit 8GB RAM AMD A10-7850K APU, closed all other settings.

I can work around it by just doing the sustain piano part and possibly other audio in a separate program after the fact, it's just annoying and tedious. Only Ableton chokes up and chirps and crackles when recording the sustain piano form the keyboard Audacity handles it fine when I export the rest of the set from ableton then import into audacity. Would just like to do as much as possible in ableton to avoid mixing everything down twice.

just finished making this. its the intro to a experimental/ambient concept album.

https://clyp.it/apl4xpcc

>>73067359
Love the lo-fi feel, but what is that buzzing noise?

>>73066840
>I think I just have too many instruments playing at the same time and occupying too many concurrent frequencies

biggest thief of headroom is in the low end normally. first thing i noticed about your song is how loud the kick is at parts. I don't think there's anything terribly wrong with your arrangement, it's just the mixing. mostly the drums. There are also a shitload of sounds clashing in the high end drowned in distortion and reverb(?) , if you want to keep them it would be a good idea to separate them... like a lot. in less that's just a stylistic choice you did on purpose ofc.

>>73066870
o0o0o0o0 singing finally (:

i don't think the organs need to drop so low when you come in, you could even get away with a decent hardpan and a reverb on the opposite side.

It sounds to me like a lot of what you're trying to fix you attempted to make up for through volume actually- for example, I think the acoustic going while you're singing could stand to be a bit louder and eq'd a bit.

Guitar solo could be brough down 2 or 3 db ish. There's something about the snare... maybe a bit bright like it could be shifted down a pinch? I can't quite put my finger on that one. Also the ending could be filled out... Maybe set up a return just for that part huh.

Also, while I like your singing, it's missing quite a bit of that sheen and air that would take it to the next level.... if you have a hallway to sing down i'd try that... maybe distortion in parallel to rough it up a touch. reblast it in a bathroom and record with a room mic to pick up ambience. Definitely a reverb thing.

Sorry if it's a bit disorganized, sounds much better from last night.

>>73067359
honestly it doesn't have the eerie effect one would expect from a reverse in this context usually.

>>73067666
>>73067666
overcompression on those snares at 0:50....

My only problem with this is the drums actually. They could be a bit easier to hear.

I think they could have the potential to add a lot more to the chaos of this track actually. Why don't you try some preverb on them at parts? Maybe a touch of drive or some highshelfing as well.

..... Also I didn't even notice the bass the first listen lol.

>>73067706
I hate that kick honestly.

laughing is too loud and sounds to clean.

why'd you leave the synth so thin?

>>73066870
Vocals need volume automation. When the get buried in the mix you need to bring the volume up, and when they get too loud you need to bring them up. You can do this generally line by line, but you can also do it syllable by syllable and get surgical with it. For instance when the vocals first come in, I think they're too loud. At 1:09 they're too quite and I can't understand what's being said. They could also use some de-essing. There are also points where the nasally frequencies of the vocals (somewhere around 2khz) get a little irritating (like at 1:25). A multi-band compressor could help keep the tonality of the vocals more consistent by keeping that frequency range under control.

Guitar solo is too loud, and kind of strident. I would check for whistle tones/resonances to notch out with a notch EQ.

>>73067924
>and when they get too loud you need to bring them up

bring them down*

>>73067671

It might be worth looking at DPC behaviour, to see if you're getting any spikes - TC Electronic still hosts a version of the DPC spike checker tool that will work with modern systems, the tool itself used to be recommended by most audio hardware vendors but with recent systems having much more processing power DPC spikes seem to be less of an issue now than they were.

Can't hurt to check though - the download link (and the forum post by TC Electronic engineer explaining the reason for the tool) can be found here:

http://forum.tcelectronic.com/topic/30/dpc-spike-checker-tool-for-pc/

>>73067827
-the kick is supposed to be similar to a heartbeat
-the laugh is supposed to be like your in the room with her

what do you mean by 'thin' on the synth?

why is it that my piano clips/arrangements sound so slow even when the tempo is set to 180 bpm

>>73068185
youre playing slow?

>>73068034
i mean the kick sample

I got that about the laugh, it just doesn't sit with the rest of the song. Check out convolution reverbs if you haven't already.

I mean there's a lot of room left to be filled out and I would have expected you to do that with the synth

>>73068208
Well no shit
I've tried changing it in the piano (hell I always enter it in note-by-note kill me) but it always sounds awkward as hell

>>73068234
>in the piano
piano roll
wew

>>73068185
Use more sixteenths, add some trills.

on a related note my melody has 6 beats per measure does that mean it's in 6/4 time?
I don't know how to write in time signatures other than 4/4 time and I don't know how I'm doing it now

>>73067666
>>73067359
>>73067706
awful

Hey guys,

Can I get some feedback on this mix? Anything I could do to make it sound better?

https://clyp.it/1qoq0bby

Any feedback would be great :)

>>73068522
wow what great feedback...

>>73069082
I should add it isn't mastered yet, still in mixing stage.

>>73069082
I hear some ringing in the bass and guitars....

Bass should be a bit stronger imo... DEEPER

The reverb makes that ringing stand out a lot actually, especially when your hands slide down the strings. cut it out, maybe even de ess or multiband comp.... also the hats are being hit too hard during that quiet part 3 minutes in.... they should go quiet and rise with the rest of the instruments. When it builds up there isn't enough to tension built buy the end to warrant that whole movement. There should be a second guitar or something in there

>>73069184
What kind of ringing do you mean? Could you give me a time reference? Keep in mind the string sliding in there is intentional and from reverbed guitars.

I think the bass is probably too loud? What do you mean deeper? Add more low end? I was finding around the 80 - 400 hz i had to take out some eq beause it was 'resonating' if pumped on a big sound system.

Good call on the hats, I'll see how it sounds if they start quieter then bring them back when the rest of the instruments kick in.

Thanks for the advice

>>73069082
The snare is a little too trashy sounding for my tastes. If you recorded the bottom of the snare when you recorded, I would turn that track down. Also during the first half of the track, it's tough to decipher what the drums are really doing. I pretty much only clearly hear the snare, which is louder than the rest of the kit. During the breakdown halfway through I can hear the whole kit and it sounds tight, so if nothing changed with the drums between those parts, it might be a case of the guitars getting in the way of the rest of the kit during the first half. Maybe some buss compression on the whole drumkit if you haven't done that.

https://clyp.it/thtzroa1?token=55dc8b10cfd681db2ac23ef052be6585

im super late to the thread so i wanna post my clip asap and then i will sift through and feedback those above, in the mean time...

I'm going to ditch the navi sample because apparently it's the most overused sample ever haha, but can i get some general opinions on the mix and arrangement?

>>73069233
I'm not him but for a rock bass try bumping around 120hz. To cut through the mix try out 1k. I love using the trident A-range plugin from softube to add 1k to a bass.

>>73069235
Maybe its just a difference of opinion, the breakdown is supposed to sound minimal and funk whilst the rest of the drums are supposed to be reverbed.

Thats not to say they wernt recorded the best. Engineers can never get drums right. Mind you its not like we recorded at Constellation. I'll try some of this out though thank you.

>>73069284
Its not a problem of it cutting through, I just found we had to take stuff away because it would resonate and at high volume, the stereo subs would rattle / certain head phones it would be to overpowering.

I'll see how that plug in goes. Thanks!

say you start making a song using a drum loop sample and when it comes time to making your own drum loop it can't hold a candle to what the sample sounds like with your song

how do you get your drum loop to work with the rest of the song

>>73069366
Yeah getting bass to translate between speakers and other sound systems is usually the toughest part for me. I usually find it helps to use a multiband compressor and squeeze everything from 120hz and below, so that it stays at a consistent volume. You can also then go through and do some volume automation, and manually bring down notes that seem louder than others.

>>73064700
if youre on windows you need to export your registry

>>73069397
I readily admit this is awful, useless advice, but the truth is most of it comes from practice.

Its such a broad question that its difficult to answer with any specifics. Are you working in a particular genre? Are you talking about drum patterns or drum sounds or both?

>>73069572
Drum and bass.
when I'm prototyping a song oftentimes I'll just drop a copy of the amen break (or a derived loop) in there, and of course it'll sound great.

then when I try and switch to my own drums they sound like Fischer Price Babby's First Drum

>>73069635
if it sounds good just use it is what i would do

>>73069635
Lots of dnb drums are very layered so if you're just using single hits it will always sound weaker. Try sampling those parts of breaks that dnb producers call a shuffle, those hat/ghost note/hat/ghost note parts that come in between snares, and then layer your own hats, and very quiet snares/kicks exactly over the top, that way you get the groove and feel from the original break but a bit clearer and more intense. If you want to get a bit breakcore/venetian snaresy with it sample loads of different shuffles and hits and layer them at different times.

Dnb drums are also often heavily processed too so when you're putting hits in at first you need to get a feel for how they will sound after distortion/compression/reverb is applied before writing them off.

>>73069675
Then it'll sound like jungle instead of dnb

>>73069782
I'd also add that pitching is important when sampling layers of breaks for dnb. Always repitch to tempo rather than warping.

https://clyp.it/user/durbkv4u
what do you do when you don't know where to go with a song

Yo guys, does anyone know how to do the vocal effect Atonio Fandango uses here? I'm positive I've heard it used before I just can't remember where, or what the effect is called, or how to do it.
(2:03 if the timestamp in the url doesn't work)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2wj1SYp7WQ#t=2m3s

>>73070544
sound like the pitch just rapidly going up and down. You could probably put a pitch shifter on the track and automate it to shift up and down over and over

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working on a beat for cloud dark rap shit, one of my first beats so any criticism is welcome

https://clyp.it/miob5tbo

Where do all the cables from my mic, amp, drum machine, synthesizer and sampler go?
>inb4 "your computer"

>>73070947
USB Audio Interface

>>73070947
In a tangled mess on the floor

>>73070990
How would I go about hooking everything up? Should I put all the cables into respective tracks on a mixer, and then send the line out from the "master" into the interface, and then hook the usb from that into a computer? How would something with midi play into all this; like, say, a dx7 synthesizer?

>>73070947
your bum

>>73071218
How many tracks do you need to record at once, how many mics, what recording gear do you already have

someone said on a previous /prod/ that the Focusrite is not a good interface for recording, latency and stuff

so what is a good for recording Interface, on the same price range of the Focusrite?

>>73071418
The scarlett is fine. Alternatively, you can get the PreSonus AudioBox.

>>73071340
I mean I guess I could overdub now that I'm thinking about it. Me and a friend want to try and record some music together. Probably 2 mics, a guitar, a regular keyboard, a midi controller/synthesizer (idk exactly my friend has that), and a drum machine. I believe we have a mixer as well.

Will MIDI ever die or be succeeded by another protocol?

>>73071439
Okay overdubbing makes things way easier and cheaper. You can a scarlett 2i2 or any other similar interface and you're good. Either record the guitars D.I or mic up an amp. The keyboard will have audio outs, so you plug them into the "line-in" of the interface, or into the preamp if there is no line-in. If you want to record the MIDI information from the keyboard, you also need a MIDI box like a MidiMan, which hooks up to the computer by USB (so you would end up recording the audio through the interface and the midi through the midi box at the same time). Whatever midi controller your friend has probably has USB and will just plug straight into the computer.

There's a book in this link called Audio Engineering 101, read it:
https://mega.nz/#!4Bd3ECgI!J8GtbeF8r7AnTwTGia2PgntNuPqs3KMI7Jo-1G43nfg

there's also a bunch of more advanced books for later if you want them.

>>73071418
I've got a 2i4and it's good. However there are better audio interfaces out there easily even at a consumer level.

>>73071549
Thanks a lot, anon

>>73071418
That was probably me. Another frequently preferred interface would be the ur22.

Another anon just mentioned the 2i4; the main issue with he 2i2 (the noob go to) for recording is a lack or headroom, and the 2i4 puts a bandaid on that issue with a pad, makes my it far more useable. The 2i2 is not impossible to use it's just a headache to deal with when spending the same money ok something else just makes more sense.

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>>73069397
Watch this. But like anon said>>73069572
it's mostly practice. You need to warp breaks to match the speed of your sample. Finding a good break that works is the hard part.
https://youtu.be/0i6pOUmwmBc