KPOP GENERAL

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I forgot to link it

>>72669916
it's ok, no one cares still

IUshitters once again prove to be completely ignorant and oblivious to facts

>>72669901
>theverge

into the trash it goes

You people are fucking retards
Blackpink's fanbase being teenage girls means they will have more loyalty
groups with male fans just jump to the new shit

>kara
82 good songs

>t-ara
49 good songs

>snsd
71 good songs

>2ne1
28 good songs

>f(x)
43 good songs

>4minute
37 good songs

>>72669901
does this hold true for melon though or even korea in general

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>>72669916
burger is too hot to handle

>>72669901
not him but digital are not profitable neither for the company (like SM) let alone the artist, since they receive a small fraction from every song; like really small

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>>72669878
Not an argument.
Literally everyone and their mothers says Rose solo will hit big.
Screenshot this post and show it to me in two years.

>>72669886
Stop being such an anti and be rational for a moment

>>72669932
do BP

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binnie will never cook you a bowl of traditional korean seawood soup for your birthday

>>72669944
>Literally everyone and their mothers says Rose solo will hit big.
you mean all the little blinkies you follow on twitter

get out of your bubble

>>72669951
3 good songs

>>72669891
honestly anything would be an improvement over his last japanese album

>>72669916
I really REALLY like that casting, it's so perfect

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>iu anti makes up lies about concerts
>gets btfo
>iu anti makes up lies about not writing songs
>gets btfo
>iu anti makes up lies about digital music revenue
>gets btfo
it's a tiresome job but somebody's gotta do it

>>72669964
based

>>72669931
the male demographic seems to be working out for twice though

>>72669964
everything the latter 2 said was correct tho

>>72669894
better than you pedo uncle fan demographic

>>72669959
how did kim sohee get on that show though
she's super nugu

arin tho
binnie whoa
yooa omo
jiho ho hoooo
seunghee no NO NOOOOOOOOOOO

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>mancy

>>72669955
as a blink I think that guy is delulu. any bp has potential but its like he doesn't know yg

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Remember when that one camera guy wasn't ready to film because he was amazed at how pretty they were? good times

>>72669964
imagine dirty jobs but every week mike rowe has to be a delulu black pink fan

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>>72669958
>caring about japanese releases
why waste your time

>>72669985
I think he fainted

>>72669969
t. the lieshitter in question

>>72669972
I feel her company is doing a great job in pushing her, and while the show has all the major qts, it's not really a big or hard show to get into

>>72669991
because his next solo is japanese...
taemin cares more about japan

>>72669967
Twice's demographics are overwhelmingly female though, that's why they sell so much

>>72669955
>waaah muh blinkies on twitter
Not an argument.
I will win in the end because she will get a solo and hit big.

>>72669981
>muh YG
Everyone in 2NE1 got a solo.
YG is already testing the waters be sending rose to masked singer.
Lowkey think we'll get a rose solo before a full album.

>>72669996
he literally got slayed because the only attractive member (mijoo) looked at him, you can see it at 0:01

>>72669996
probably some boy band before them, so he was sleeping

>>72670013
lol

>>72669964
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IU_discography
look at the singles and look at who arranged and produced them

stop being ignorant

girls have terrible taste in music, if your favorite group has a large female fanbase you're in trouble

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>>72670012
>his next solo is japanese...
dont jinx it

>>72669996
>ywn pass out from being in sujeong's presence

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how do i get bodies like these?

https://michiyuki11.tumblr.com/

>>72670037
he literally said he was coming out with another japanese album before his solo concert... in japan

>>72670018
it is very much an argument, thats like getting all your information from kpg and arriving at the conclusion that lovelyz is the most talented and successful group in kpop

or going to a minzy fansite and coming back and saying that it was a massive success

>>72670048
stop being fat, for one

twiceshitters getting jealous. the only decent singer is uggo and the okay looking members can't sing at all and are foreigners so no solo chance at all

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>>72670051
his solo concert is in late july that gives him more than enough time to have a krn release and then follow up with a jp release just like he did with pyn
hes performing at dream concert in june thats why everyone thinks he'll have a krn solo first

>>72670048
>uggos everywhere

classic tumblr

https://www.soompi.com/2015/06/25/sistars-soyu-reveals-that-she-didnt-earn-a-lot-with-wildly-popular-song-some/

http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.kr/2016/06/soyu-denies-income-rumors-about-some.html

>>72670076
the focus is on their bodies

>>72669978
we like upsee here

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>>72670030
she produced the last two albums

>>72668299
You do understand how pregnancy works, right?

>>72670035
>disbands
stfu purepop shitter

>>72670052
You're just dismissing the proofs i've given you.
Everyone and their mothers talks about a rose or jennie solo.
They were the only members that got songs pre debut.
Try to leave /kpg/ more.
Keep denying reality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNdQ_9h6B8Q

reminder who our girls are

>>72670103
the albums with all those plagiarism scandals?

>>72670035
the sm groups has a bigger female fanbase though snsds is not as overpowering as the other two

>>72670074
>hes performing at dream concert in june
yeah i thought that was weird
you could be right
we'll see

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>>72670103

>>72670109
just sayin'

in the west if you have the same taste in music as a woman it's not a good thing and it's no different in the east

>>72670109
>You're just dismissing the proofs i've given you.
you havent given any "proofs"

all you say is "everyone says it! trust me!"

>>72670103
She """produced""" the albums

idiot

You're delulu as fuck if you think IU actually produced the albums

>>72670125
>only wrote the lyrics most of the time

Anyone can write lyrics

>>72670113
palette had a plagiarism scandal?
>>72670125
producer /=/ arranger

>>72670156
and all her big hits like you and I and good day were written by Kim Eana

>>72670150
lol doesn't matter if she sat at home with her thumb up her ass, if her name is credited she gets the royalty for that role

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>>72670120
now is the perfect time for taemin to have a solo cb in korea
taemin cb > exo cb > shinee cb is all i could ever ask for

>>72670185
>doesn't matter if she sat at home with her thumb up her ass
ehh.... omo??

>>72670185
she has to share it with everyone else involved
and from >>72670090
>If Soyu's song actually did make 1.3 billion won in digital sales, then Soyu would have only made about 40 million won herself. Only 6% of it goes to the person who sang the song and Soyu doesn't have a solo since all her songs are duets so even that's cut in half to 3%... 3% of 1.3 billion won is about 40 million won. Production companies usually take about 80% with the distributor like Melon if a song hits daebak and 10% goes to the composer and lyricist...

>>72670185
depending on the contract ye...

>>72670203
soyu did nothing but sing someone else's song so why would she make much money?

>>72670137
>posts article about how knetz think rose's voice is amazing/charming
>muh demographics

Theres no arguing with antis like you.
Big artists already want to collab with her but you just keep on denying reality.

im surprised that IU fans are this ignorant, you would think that since she's been in K-Pop for so long that her fans would know more about it

black pink is better than IU and twice and all other girl groups combined. if you don't believe me, you can see the article yourself on blackpinkinternationalfan.biz

>>72670228
>Big artists already want to collab with her

lol, you are do daebak dumb jesus wet

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Remember that one time the camera man fell in love with Sujeong and couldn't stop filming her? and she was like "w-what are you doing?"

test

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>>72669978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v90n_z38Gck

binnie go go GOOOOOOOOO

>>72670228
>article with 300 votes
yea, everyone and their mother alright...

>>72670238
i'm pretty sure that's a falseflag

>>72670238
Nice strawman

>>72670244
>IU is not a big artist
Ok dumb shit

IU said once she earns a normal year's salary from 'not spring love or cherry blossoms' alone when it comes back on the charts in spring each year.
that's just one song, and she only wrote the lyrics.

so based.

>>72670268
Someone saying "I want to collab with X" in some dumb interview is not a real statement you sperg

>>72670224
so you're saying that IU didn't make anything when she sang someone elses songs for 90% of her career?

1. [+233, -73] Twice is the type of group that survives together but dies apart. You take them all apart and their personal skills are zero. It's so rare for a girl group to be so equally untalented, it's amazing.

2. [+120, -18] When even Goo Hara can get a solo, why can't Twice? And groups are better off not having solos anyway unless you're going to have tours like GD, there's not enough money to be made from them

3. [+104, -6] I'm a Shawol and I remember thinking Jungyeon was a really good singer when I was listening to an MR-removed video of Twice. Seems her agency doesn't know that because she always gets the least parts... If Twice ever were to get a solo, I'd say Jungyeon would be the best choice.

4. [+62 -100] Isn't Jihyo decent though?

5. [+47, -82] But is there reason for any of them to go solo? Their group itself is already top tier, why risk anything by releasing a solo that can't guarantee success or failure ㅋㅋㅋ

6. [+31, -7] Jungyeon can go with a girl crush concept or Jihyo can do a cute pop song... anyway, they're still rookies, it's unfair to say they can or can't do solos yet

7. [+29, -19] Jihyo can

8. [+25, -8] Doesn't seem like Twice cares about releasing solos anyway? To go solo, you need a bit of greed in music and interest in diverse genres... if they had any greed in music at all, their skills wouldn't be as bad as it is now...

9. [+21, -3] Twice fans are always like "our group makes a ton of money even without the need for solos" but that's honestly not the point of solos. Solos are to show off the members who have a genuine interest in music and want to show what they've been honing

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>>72669978
this is very accurate

>>72670203
b-b-but digitals make so much money

for the companies who distribute music digitally

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>>72670291
>Jihyo can do a cute pop song

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>>72670190
rip my bank account if that's what ends up happening
did you like story op 2

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>>72669895

>>72670291
>4. [+62 -100] Isn't Jihyo decent though?
>-100

bwahaha

>>72670284
>no true scotsman

>>72670286
IU didn't get plays exclusively from karaoke rooms

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>>72670291
>It's so rare for a girl group to be so equally untalented
btfo

>>72670286
iu probably made most of her money from cfs as is the norm
still probably does

>>72670323
>300 votes
self-btfo

>>72670291
>1. [+233, -73] Twice is the type of group that survives together but dies apart.
Why are people so insistent on this considering they have shown they can sing given songs with good vocal ranges (Melody Project)

>>72670318
not at all, learn your fallacies

make them whistle like a mistle boom boom

>>72670342
lol

>>72670299
>IU is under Loen which owns Melon
i guess that worked out then

This is worse than twice x luglyz

>>72670342
Theres literally not a single twice member that can hold a stage by herself.
Its much more than singing a song

>>72670342
>studio recordings

ayy

i'm just gonna link his post and type lol, that'll work well in place of a rebuttal i can't think of because i have no case

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>>72670342

>>72670273
i wonder what busker busker makes from that other cherry blossom song

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>>72670306
>did you like story op 2
yea i still listen to it on a daily basis
ill probably like op2 more than i like taemins solo just like with she is and pyn

>>72670360
>>72670372
>>72670374
I'm a sound engineer in college and I can say that Twice has massive potential. Just because they haven't shown it now doesn't make it impossible for them to improve, they haven't even been in the industry for more than 2 years they have time to improve.

I'm just going to write out a long post detailing the reasons and logic of my position, that will certainly help me in arguing on kpeg

>>72670391
jihyos been training for 10 years m8, and there hasn't been a single good female vocalist in JYPs history

>>72670391
i'm double majoring in audio engineering and music theory, and i can confirm: twice is good

>>72670391
>I'm a sound engineer in college and I can say that Twice has massive potential

lol okay kiddo, enjoy your life with shit pay, smart people left that industry years ago

>>72670391
JYP purposfully trains them to sound like shit so he has an easier time compressing them and swapping their parts around as he pleases

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>>72670391
Lets be honest.
No one looks at twice and says:" She has such a good voice and is so charming. She should totally go solo".

>i'm a sound engineer in college
lol

im laughing but im also scared that some of these posts might not be bait and i post with people this stupid every day

>>72669906
Wow queen taeng is so cute

>>72670342
if they're so good why can't they sing well on immortal songs or sketchbook?

>>72670434
that's the black stinker guy lol

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>>72670385
oh hey same
although sometimes some songs bring down the mood...

>>72670405
Trainee training is pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things and only aims to build the framework to learn how to work the industry. The improvement comes after debut.
>>72670410
>>72670434
>>72670413
Making fun of my major isn't going to further your shitty neet lives
>>72670418
My point is that Twice will be successful solo in the future I mean look at SNSD now

who has the crispest cleanest production in kpop?
honestly it's rv, omg and miss a (rip)

I have an associates degree in music production and I think twice is amazing

>>72670451
black pink

>>72670449
i'm majoring in standup & roasting and i can honestly say i wasn't making fun of you

>>72670451
>rv
Stopped reading there. They have some of the most poorly mastered songs in kpop

>>72670449
>Trainee training is pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things and only aims to build the framework to learn how to work the industry. The improvement comes after debut.
that's not true at all

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>>72670449
Did you even see snsd debut in 2007?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJHHpyzf_Fc

Sick moves, live singing, members that stand out

>>72670449
except taeyeon has been talented since day 1 and everyone always knew she would make it solo

twice doesnt have anyone with even 1/3rd of the talent as taeyeon

>>72670472
SNSD was garbage and around the same talent pool as Twice back in their debut days but they improved massively and look at where they are now.

>>72670461
slug:3

>>72670463
you are dead wrong

everything after the red could have been mixed and mastered by beethoven himself

>>72670449
snsd only has 1 successful solo artist tho. theres definitely no taeyeon in twice

>>72670492
bait

>>72670500
meant to quote >>72670486

>>72670486
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>72670486
>but they improved massively

why does the intro on snuper's compass album come after the title track

that's retarded

>>72670500
how

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it's another kpg falls hard for the bait episode

it's a rerun btw

>>72670521
because you're baiting

>>72670522
we love reruns

>>72670486
I'm the last person to defend SNSD, but they trained like slaves day and night and pretty much renounced to a normal life after being casted by SM, the group was perfectly polished by debut

>snuper went from triple digit sales in korea to 30k in japan

based our boys, it's raining (money)

>>72670518
>gaypop is retarded
congratulations, only took you all the way until 2017

>>72670529
>it's bait because you're baiting
nice tautology but that doesn't explain what you mean

>jyp giving twice comebacks after comebacks because the milking will be over soon
>twice shitters think they can go solo

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>>72670447
yea op1 was the same way, it makes for good study music
i wouldnt change a single track off op2, i like his slow coffee shop music best

>>72670536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTASffPQGhY

word

>>72670539
if they'd won a show they'd be accused of sajaegi

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has anybody here tried beats by dre?

>>72670546
I'm not encouraging your bait

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>>72670461
slug! cover up! >.<

>>72670556
yeah but where's the kpop my man

>>72670556
yeah, if you like hip hop get'em, but the bass is too much for other sutff

>>72670564
cant cover it up
no
cant cover it up

>>72670560
ok so are you saying red velvet has good or bad production?

>jyp producing a song because gooks are getting bored of the same sound
>its going to be a disaster

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slug in heat

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>>72670550
word, it's such a comfy album
where are you is a meme song but it's probably my favourite

>>72670588
they have crisp production. like a burned pizza

>>72670592
I can't wait. JYP always screws over his groups spectacularly

>>72670592
they weren't getting tired of b.e.p as far as i could tell

>>72670405
>and there hasn't been a single good female vocalist in JYPs history
I'd love to see someone disprove this.

>hurr jyp such hack always ruins groups xD
>very very very was widely regarded as one of the best kpop songs of all time

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>>72670570

>>72670612
no it was widely regarded as a copy of gee which is one of the best kpop songs of all time

>>72670612
word

>>72670609
min
fei
yenny
sun
baek ayeon

would write more but im watching idolmaster episode 2

>>72670612
people stopped talking about VVV after a week because it got old

i don't think he got the beethoven joke

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>>72670486

>>72670629
>min
>fei
>yenny
>sun
terrible

>>72670629
he said disprove not prove

>>72670612
>repeat nomu 300 times
>good song
JYP is shit

>>72670631
we like bach in here more

>>72670630
word because they were listening to it nonstop

>>72670612
No one ever thought VVV was good and anything more than a gee clone

It never hit #1 and never won any shows either

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>>72670564
sorry

>>72670648
clearly you don't know how kpop works

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what do we think of hyebin's new hair

>>72670629
>min
>fei
>yenny
>sun
LMAO
(this is coming from someone who loved fei and yenny solos btw)
>baek ayeon
didn't train at JYP

>>72670649
who is the bach of kpop?

and don't say that old geezer who takes a few dumps in fl studio for each lovelyz album lol

>>72670661
Nice try JYP.

>>72670670
good now that she doesn't have the memehair ballsack on her forehead

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>>72670595
kek where are you is so cute, im glad he included it as a hidden track it made buying the album feel even more worth it
its hard to pick a favorite but i've been listening to just chill the most recently

>>72670655
>chartshitter

lmfaooooooooooooooo

>>72670674
15&

>>72670677
that guy is awesome though

but the back is our guy shinsadong tiger

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for the gays

>>72670677
giorgio moroder

>>72670696
not even the gays watched boys24 my man

>be jyp
>tell shannon shes a bad singer

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the answer is yoon sang

ur one of one, girl

>>72670707
word

if they style dubu and nayeons hair on shows like they did on the teasers i'm not gonna be happy

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wait a sec

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aoa almost dead

>praising a guy who can't even get a win

>>72670722
i can't tell if this is laboum, lovelyz, pristin, gugudan, april, or bonus baby

>>72670722
wtf was sally even doing there. they're gonna have to redo the entire election

>very very very is one of the most popular kpop songs of all time
>no it wasn't here are actual statistics to prove you wrong
>chartshitterslmfaoooooooooooaooooOAOOOoo
what did the conversation mean by this

>>72670691
>15&
i'm not sure if you're baiting but 15& were also not trained by JYP, just like baek ayeon, they both were casted at reality shows

>>72670736
its omg

>>72670736
it's gfriend

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>>72670726
not in my heart

even though jimmy is homeless now..

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>he's not watching the iteens vlives
wished I knew the name of this qt though

>>72670722
i genuinely have no idea which group this is supposed to be

>>72670750
the statement was there have been no good vocalists in JYP's history, didn't say anything about explicitly trained by him

>>72670738
sally saw everyone going someplace and her korean is bad so

>>72670748
chartshitter spotted ROFL

>>72670769
you posted that last time, forgot your busted granny again

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>>72670716
>tfw I've seen him with lovelyz more times than I've seen every other group with their producers

only twice comes close and that was because of sixteen

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>>72670681
i burst out laughing everytime the kazoo comes on tho
elevator and blinking game are really nice too imo

JYP is the cancer of kpop.
Bring back DSP and FNC

>>72670764
I need to unfollow these uggos because I don't watch them and they keep blowing up my phone

>>72670754
too uggo to be omg
>>72670756
too pretty to be gfriend

i want real answers

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>>72670472

> live singing
> members that stick out

>>72670813
>too uggo to be omg
not possible

>>72670812
you're missing good streams, except when yoojung and doyeon are on

>>72670612
>>72670748
no one is denying jyp composing skills or songwriting abilities you FUCKING IDIOT
i'm pretty sure most people here like JYP songs
we are talking about how JYP doesn't train their artists to sing well
also, when people say JYP they are referring to the entertainment company not the guy himself

>>72670810
THIS
and plebis and MBK
They should unite to take down JYP once and for all

i stole a lovelyanus channel plus as a joke but now i want out because they won't stop spamming

>>72670828
I don't like JYPs songs desu

>>72670835
get fucked

>>72670817
ioi shitter...
Somi cant sing

>>72670828
i cant think of a single jyp song i like

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jyp saved kpop

>>72670810
those companies have no one to blame but themselves

>>72670839
do you want it? how can i sell it

>FNC
>the creators of the blandest group ever

yeah, bring them back...

>>72670835
same, fucking annoying anusshitters

>>72670848
Cub was ironically cute in this

>>72670851
yep DSP had it coming when they incurred the wrath of nicoles mom

>>72670848
tzuyu tho

>>72670859
>ft island
>cn blue
>aoa black

>>72670856
>wanting to profit from something you got for free

antis, everyone

>>72670670
I dont know who that is but that is not a good look

>>72670873
that happens all the time with giveaways

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>>72670670

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>>72670870
word
>>72670864
word

>>72670847
this one is amazing if you drown out his vocals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awEF5Jprl7E

doyeon makes my member stick out

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did anyone else go in stage outfits? it's cute but a little strange

>>72670872
exactly, and of course aoa is the prime example

theres a lot of gay pop in this thread but no suga...

>>72670900
fucking O M O

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>>72670738
>>72670777

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWky8OJorwM

oh hee jung > that pleb shit you listen too

>>72670705
i can't keep track of what they like. it's too much reading

>>72670913
why strange?

>>72670873
isn't woollim charging you people a bunch of money to become "official" members of the fandom?
lol they really just think of you as cash cows don't they

>>72670848
JY "i train personalities, not artists" P

>>72670946
every group does that

>>72670946
so, they're supposed to give away everything? it's a business, not a charity

>you people
>implying I'd pay for a simple title

>>72670897
terrible stance

something about slutpop makes groups age like milk

>>72670897

Why is chewy so angry?

>>72670946
fandoms do this all the time
Twice's one (the once fanclub) cost me around 80 USD after shipping

any official, paid lovelinus here? besides myself of course

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>tfw vlives are sending us back to the time of 360p

god damn it

>>72670979
counter-intuitively, purepop girls actually get MORE cum on their face, because slutpops get cum in their asses. The cum on their faces keep purepops young

>>72670848
jyp created both twiceshitters and those insane asylum escapees we like to call got7 fans so that cant be accurate

>>72670982
the antis have been picking on her friends and she's out to get em

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>>72670922
Let's fix that

>>72670897
did they photoshop her thighs?
could have sworn they were thicker

>Twice
0 good songs

>>72671009
cringe

[Pann] 170905 Twice Plagiarism Scandal

1. [+2033, -73] with exo, they ripped off the specific concept of the group members being aliens each of whom has a distinct superpower
with omg, they ripped off the setting, visual style and even specific shots
with gfriend, the extent of the plagiarism remains to be seen but it looks like it's going to be bad

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bae yubin

>>72670992
assuming you aren't being sarcastic, this is why twice is so successful

thousands like you paying hand over fist for nothing whatsoever

>>72671018
they always photoshop thighs

>>72670993
i almost got it
maybe next year

>>72671024
i can think of about five or six good twice songs

>>72671043
It was only 40 USD iirc I just live in a crappy country so I paid another 40 in shipping.

[spoiler]still waiting on my once fanclub parcel to arrive strangely enough so it might have been lost in transit despite everything I paid for it[/spoiler]

>>72671056
>twice
>good songs

>>72671041
FINITO

twice is successful bc they're the best

>>72671060
onces everyone

>>72671041
>with gfriend
>gfriend invented uniforms

people are fucking dumb

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>>72671009

libel and slander them all you want, i still KNOW that purepops are pure

>>72671060
someone must have gotten it already, right? do you know what the 'special goods' are?

TWICE IS FINITO


DON'T MESS WITH OMG

>>72671060
what do you actually get
cards and a calendar or something

>>72671103
something like that

>>72671041
>twice should allow to Plagiarize EXO because JYP and they are popular

>>72670979
other than aoa what other slutpop groups have aged poorly?

>>72671119
SNSD
Twice

>>72670259
VERY fast proboscis monkey running at incredible hihg speed

>>72671090
well you posted the purest group in kpop
the others, i'm not so sure about...

is this a no meme zone?

>>72671001
i thought korean internet was fast

binnie vs rui

who's the fastest japanese girl in kpop?

>>72671060
>mfw my coloring book copy still not appearing in the tracking
it left Incheon on April 19th....

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>>72671098

TRUTH, OMG are the purest of the pure

>>72671041
Fakest gayest thing ever

am i wrong

>>72671119
EXID
t-ara
after school
miss A

>>72671166

>>72671151
I'm not wearing my glasses and I swear it looked like you wrote colonoscopy instead of coloring book copy

>>72671145
even the 720p streams look crappy, they don't like to share their speeds

>>72671151
depending on the tracking you paid for sometimes they don't track outside of korea

>>72670291
>. [+120, -18] When even Goo Hara can get a solo, why can't Twice?
this desu ive always wondered why goo hara got a solo shes so talentless baka