/classical/

Quite liking Svanholm the moment. Not Melchior levels, but p good nonetheless

Hindemith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUh_MYu69t4

>tfw after a month of listening to absolutely no baroque music (because I had been involved in the performance of so much of it over the previous month) Bach lures me back in with his cantatas
The bog-man does it again

another folder

https://mega.nz/#F!pWR0zABY!xCwF1rEfXiyEy5HuhTDP0Q

>>72604575
Yeah, he's pretty good. Top 10 for sure.

Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADhdpnn-TAw

>>72606547
good BAch

>>72607388
>>72607444

W A G N E R I A N

>>72607586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnyHFBVJMYE

>>72607586
it's time to turn /mu/ into 4chan's first gesamtkunstwerk board

>>72607696
>24:43
Gould plz

QUICK! Give me a good American-made quartet!

>>72608549
Ives 2

>that quality of singing in Fried's Beet 9
Delicious

>>72609513
link

>>72609734
The transfer on Youtube sucks ass, so here's an excerpt of some of the singing:

https://f.lewd.se/Im8fga.mp3

A lovely waterfall of shellac noise accompanies it.

I find classical with vocals to be annoying. Someone sway me other.

>>72610022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ubiUIxbWE

>>72610022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7ZtSFfXfqg

>In the lives of great artists, there are unfortunate contingencies which, for example, force the painter to sketch his most significant picture as only a fleeting thought, or which forced Beethoven to leave us only the unsatisfying piano reduction of a symphony in certain great piano sonatas (the great B flat major). In such cases, the artist coming after should try to correct the great men's lives after the fact; for example, a master of all orchestral effects would do so by restoring to life the symphony that had suffered an apparent pianistic death.

Do you agree?

>>72610335
Making arrangements of other people's music is good for learning, but it's really fucking stupid to imagine you know better than them how their music should be arranged.

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https://clyp.it/tgj0m0bv

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>>72610874

Mine's better

https://clyp.it/fd2u054a

>>72610874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7efM7qZFJYI

>>72610927
I don't think it could possibly be baroque of any kind anon. Probably at least mid-19th century

>>72610905
No you goose, I didn't make it. its a quotation of something I heard and what identified.

>>72608549
Weill's 1st.

>>72610905
Pretty generic. Just reminds me of a stripped down Moonlight Sonata

>>72604158
this music just gave me a brain orgasm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GZE_hFlh7w

>listening to Chopin

why

Buxtehude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6f_jL9bbio&spfreload=1

>>72611267
Fascinating. What does it have to do with classical?

>>72611370
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAD6kb99oj0

>>72610022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBimK9qhaeY

>>72610055
Still better than the pigs they throw at Bayreuth these days

>>72612400
No reggietheater too.

>>72604158
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty9G0asmZ_k

>>72610905
>https://clyp.it/fd2u054a
Even Chopin is better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTnbrLXEGjI&t=1077s&ab_channel=olla-vogala

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBbg6QWEMoA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rpil-6SLyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fJbwx2TajY

>>72610905
>mathfags
Why do these niggers think they're so above everyone else just because they're numerate?

you_suck_trumpet_manlet.exe

Give me some good classical music to play while I'm fucking my girlfriend.

>>72610022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMKyTAe6yeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXY-Hp-m7_g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjPKcyLWlEE

>>72613921
>using classical as background music
It's meant to be actively listened to you doofus.

>>72613921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXKoyg_g458

>>72613969
>autism

Do you nerds ever get laid?

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>>72613921
>>72613996
>normalfag

>there will never be a great classical piece written for guitar
how do i cope?

>>72614017
Stop being a nerd. Just jiggle some tunes and you'll be swimming in pussy in no time. Don't forget the baseball cap and weed joint.

>>72614017
Are you dumb?

There's a wealth of classical guitar pieces.

>>72614052
I didn't learn guitar for this

>>72614063
yeah but they all suck

>>72614015
>>72614052

This general really is the most autistic place on /mu/.

>>72614081
What else would you learn that shitty instrument for?

>>72614097
literally every other genre, classical is the only one that has no good guitar stuff

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Music for this feel?

>>72614109
Stop pretending you even listen to classical. And stop bragging about your girlfriend.

>guitarists

>>72614135
>Stop pretending you even listen to classical
Ok then show me a guitar piece that's not lame as hell

>And stop bragging about your girlfriend.
I don't have a gf, would you like to be my gf (male)?

>>72614081
>>72614109
>>>/gg/
^ a more fitting place for plebs like you

>>72614159
Why can't you guys just admit that classical has never done guitar right?

It's always the fucking guitarists man. Just like that other time with the guitarist that wanted to learn how to shred on violin but he didn't realise he was playing out of tune all the time. What is it about guitar that attracts the biggest retards?

>>72614200
>What is it about guitar that attracts the biggest retards?
the most entry level instrument. literally.
even drums have a higher barrier to entry because they're cumbersome, expensive and noisy.
you can buy a guitar, fuck around with it in your room and think you know shit.

>>72614200
It's just one instrument out of many anon, now admit to it.

Why can't you guys just admit that classical guitar sucks? This genre doesn't have to be perfect you know.

>>72614242

study these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gCLpbaaRRA

a lot of them are appropriate for your most likely low musicianship. now get the fuck out

>>72614292
>low musicianship
>not shit
JUST
admit it Anon.

>>72614308
Admit that you have no idea what you're talking about and just want to expand your repertoire so you don't appear like too much of a total pleb.

>>/gg/

>>72614362
I'm not looking to expand my repertoire with complete shit, now admit it!

>>72614371
There's nothing to admit to. I bet you can't even name a single composer that has written for guitar without googling it. Piss off already, you're transparent as hell.

>>72614405
Bach
That's one, now admit it, why do you even care this much?

>>72614420
>Bach
LMAO

>>72614463
The only one that matters anyway, i'm still waiting anon.

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>>72614420
>Bach

Yeah, you're clueless.

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>>72614484
Actually I wasn't the one talking to you; I just like to laugh at stupid people lol.

>>72614484
If you want to get spoonfed you have to be honest and polite about it. Basic /classical/ etiquette. Lurk more or GTFO.

>Retard asks for someone to show him some good classical guitar
>Nobody can name anything
I hate guitarists more than anyone but isn't he right?

>>72614509
See
>>72614503

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>>72614509
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-ru27xynh8

Alright then, fine, post some good shit then. I bet you guys can't find anything, I've been looking myself for an entire day and all i can find is shitty lute stuff by Bach and Vivaldi and while i like their other stuff it just sounds boring

>>72614585
Carlo Domeniconi - Koyunbaba
Francisco Tárrega - Gran Jota
Anton Diabelli - Sonata in F maj

>>72614585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oqZ-17m-qU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifxfr-OeP7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yo1VpmSQUo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22E_OqBYPl8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtTFNOkRcac

Don't expect tasteless shredding or sweep-picking, or anything "showy". Expect tasteful playing and the ability to perfectly a play (and hear) every note and melodic line at once.

Classical guitar is not shitty rock or metal guitar, so don't expect it to be. Expect beautiful music rather than showing off playing scales.

If you want some technical scale wankery, go listen to Jason Becker's Perpetual Burn

And here's a few more modern pieces to round out this post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVNuchg0gkQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kshdlU2hD8

>>72614585
> I like their other stuff
no you don't stop pretending you listen to classical chump.
there's nothing wrong with asking for recommendations and everyone here would be happy to give you pieces to listen to as long as you don't act like a retarded blowhard.

good entry level guitar concerto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye-FvKCZp3s

Walton's 5 bagatelles for guitar are noice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-E-2la6iWs

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lmao, that guitar guy got so buttdevastated he actually went to /gg/ to look for a shoulder to cry on

>>72615581
What are you talking about, i'm still in the thread, i'm just listening to the stuff people posted

>>72615602
this
>>72615370

fuck, it's not as funny if that was just some random lurker looking to start a thread war.

>>72615620
>John Williams is one of the finest classical musicians ever
heehee

>>72610874
>>72611014
Where did you hear this?

>>72610874
It starts off sounding like the third movement of BWV 56. But it definitely isn't that

Hey /classical/,

I have a bit of a different problem and I would like your opinions. I always listened and played classical music and I loved it, but lately I lost the connection with it. I have, and had so for many years, season tickets for best seats in top musical institutions in my country, but I stopped being excited for concerts. Last time I really enjoyed it was few years back, they played Francesca di Rimini. But since then I find the music boring, and the people going to the concert either old snobs, who are only there to show off their wealth, or bitter music students, who are incapable of holding a normal, enjoyable conversation. I'm sad because I use to enjoy it so much and I feel I'm missing out, so I would like to get back into it. Should I just wait to come back naturally or should I be more persistent in listening?

>also sorry for the blog post

how do I become cool enough to post in /classical/

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>>72616359
pls respond

you guys are the worst

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>>72604158
I am new to classical music. I have seen the charts etc., but I am just wondering if anybody can recommend me some (pref melancholic) piano stuff...I just listebed to chopin and I like it

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>>72616359
>>72616430
Stahp watching anime.

>>72616563
https://youtu.be/JOW2JpPi6Wc?t=1m45s

>>72616563
>I just listebed to chopin
you shit the bed to chopin
>and I like it
and I can smell it through the monitor.

>recommend me some (pref melancholic) piano stuff
schubert is not for shitting the bed to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhH0796AqYU
neither is debussy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1AY-apdfLo

>>72616690
>shitting the bed
what, is this a thing in murica?

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>>72616563
>I just listened to shitpin and I like it

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>>72616668
you too? fuck...

B*gposter >>>>>Shitpin poster

>>72616295
no one cares do whatever the fuck you want
lol

/bleep/ > /jazz/ > /classical/

>>72604158
I really like Erik Satie but I see that he isn't included into the Mega folders. I'm trying to get into /classical/ and downloading as much as I can find but I am unable to find anything of Satie's work. Is there a Mega folder with some of his work in it or maybe even his discography? Thanks in advance.

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>Erik Satie

where are you people coming from?

>>72616563
I would fuck this guy until my balls got sore.

>>72616859
Satie is 19th century pop music.

>>72616719
it's a thing wherever you're from apparently

>>72616922
Yeah I thought so. Contrarianism is blatant in these threads as well. It is getting banal.

>>72616965
What is wrong with that? Why can I only listen to ''patrician'' music and not to pop music every once in a while? Just because I also like Satie doesn't mean I am unable to like Guiseppe Tartini and J.S. Bach. Can't I like both?

>>72616989
There's nothing wrong with it. But this is /classical/.

>>/mu/
in general is more up your alley.

>>72616295
It's normal to lose interest in things you do a lot, and what exactly do you feel you are missing out? Classical music will be played forever over and over, not going to one or more concerts it's not a big deal.
I think you should explore other music out of your comfort zone, and then come back to classical when you feel the need to

Please recommend me a good interpretation of the Bach cello suites, available in decent audio quality

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>>72616989
contrarianism?
no seriously, where are you people coming from?

>>72617070
Jack Nicholson is a shitty actor by the way.

>>72617070
I came from Reddit of course XDDD

Reading this post >>72616295 after the last few replies is hilarious. Boy, did he come to the wrong place!

>>72617093
hehehe XD

>>72616989
There's nothing contrarian about dissing Satie.

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>>72617088
>Jack Nicholson is a shitty actor
^ what actual contrarianism looks like

>>72617141
Time to settle this
http://www.strawpoll.me/12906350

>>72614585

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aozHDEse10o&list=PLNS2_ms2mBFaQX4KPeU8sKjbBKJxaTQok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLAVlQCxGSY

>>72617423
Where's the option for not a snob, not a music student but bitter as fuck?

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>>72617060

>>72617060
Queyras.

>>72617093
LOL. Me too! *Gets SCHWIFTY*

>>72617476
that's a given if you are here

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>>72617573
This is why the thread needs more anime.
It livens up the atmosphere.

\\\--+--+~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdMgLdaxos8 ~+--+--///
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ R a r e D v o ř á k ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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>>72617789
By the way, I sucked an old man's dick for the first time to-day.
I don't know what it is yet, but post some music for this feel.

>listen to classical music for years
>I frolick in the complexity, trascendence and sophistication of this high art
>still, whenever I listen to it I always have the strong impression that I would have written this music in a very different way, going after extremely different aesthetics while still being bound by the compositional limitations of traditional tonality

Should I become an erudite in composition (theory, harmony, melody, counterpoint and analysis) and try to push this platonic idea I've got in my head of what tonal art music should sound like?

>>72616668

.//<><><><><><><><><><>\\
\\<><><> F a g g o t <><><>//
..\\<><><><><.><><><><>//
....\\<><><><>.<><><><>//

>>72617951
You should learn how to perform fellatio because that's what you'll be doing for many years to come. Ask this guy >>72617807 for tips.

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>>72617995
Due to health problems (not bulimia, nor anorexia: I had a very bad case of gastritis) I puked A LOT in my teenagehood, meaning that at this point I have an insane gag reflex. I'm pretty sure I need no lessons, without any sort of training I'm already sure that I'm a virtuoso when it comes to fellation.

Still, penises disgust me, and I was asking for an advice on music composition, hopefully from people who are more familiar with the current academic zeitgeist than me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcD4iiyFy78

Schumann writes the best canons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=91&v=CPjgE29xi1k

Is it a good composition?

>>72618110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLAVlQCxGSY

>>72618089
>penises disgust me
Other options are available but you won't earn as much.

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I am posting in the same thread as a guy who's literally prostituting himself?

>>72617807
>>72617995
>>72618089
>>72618371

>/classical/ - oral sex edition

>>72618089
>Still, penises disgust me
pleb

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What's so weird about sucking dick for some extra disposable income?

>>72618683
I mean, one of my friends signed up for an 90,000 euros loan last month to buy a new flute. Music is a high maintenance hobby. /classical/ of all places should understand that.

>>72618683
>>72618767
I hope you get pozzed you degenerate

>>72618767
Dropping in from the first page is that 90 _thousand_ euros for a flute are you kidding me?

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>>72618767
And classical training teaches you some very useful transferable skills: embouchure, fingering, rhythm etc

>>72618827
Concert flutes cost a couple hundred thousand. You usually loan them from the orchestra.

I always knew people who listen to classical are a bunch of queers but that's just fucked up.
>>72618872
What the fuck is that thing made of? Gold?

>>72617951
no one?

>>72619063
If music graduates have to fuck people for money to get by my advice is to quit and start studying a real profession.

>>72617807
>>72617995
>>72618317
>>72618527
>>72618683
>>72618829

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Can someone explain? Is this an in-joke?

Serialist and atonal music is classical for hipsters.

>>72619063
If you are asking us if you should try composing then the answer is no. Unless you are driven, which you aren't if you are asking, you won't succeed.

Also, do you spit or swallow?

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>/classical/ use to have pedos and trannies
>plebs are getting upset some anime pleb wants to give bjs
Prudes itt.

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>>72619301
I spit of course.

>>72619168
I don't care about money, my parents are way too loaded for me to care about how much wil these composition earn me.

>>72619301
I'm not doubting about this inclination of mine, rather I really don't know if it is too late for me to start learning composition.
More specifically (and this stems from the fact that I've read very few composers' biographies, and all those biographies had actual prodigies as their subject) I don't know if the type of intuitiveness and effortlessness, that is so common among our most celebrated composers, is attainable by an adult learner, given that this specific learner can put most of his time into this practice.

I'd hate to study 9 years just to discover that, since I've started so late, my talent was stunted from day 1.

I'm obviously not sure about wether what I'm saying is true or not, hence why I'm asking this here on /classical/.

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>/classical/

>>72617807
>music for this feel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dbR2JZmlWo

>>72619504
Are you already a good enough performer to play professionally? Do you have enough money to hire musicians to play your compositions?

>>72619504
fuck you bourgeois scum

>>72618683
how do i start doing this?

UK btw

Redpill me on Bartok.

>I don’t mean to complain, but serious musicians seem to be getting more expendable by the hour. (And since I don’t see any sign of this abating I guess that’s my first prediction.) One of my most dismal memories of two decades–plus at Columbia University is the annual effort the music department made to nominate the aging, now deceased Roger Sessions for an honorary degree, only to see an ephemeral parade of Bubbles, Mannies, Itzies, and Pinkies honored by the trustees of our liberal arts institution, where musical performance was not even taught as a major subject, and where every year the music department turned out its half-dozen superbly equipped yet socially useless and barely employable PhDs in composition. Music, to the Columbia trustees, as to the majority of educated Americans, was expensive entertainment, nothing more.

>>72619794
please respond guys im serious

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>>72619794
>>72620183

Use a dating site on which you hint at it on your profile. Arrange meetings through PMs, vet anyone who inquires and don't be an idiot. With time, customers will bring you other customers.

>>72620308
>Use a dating site on which you hint at it on your profile.
thanks

i'm not sure of a subtle way to do this. also what if someone i know sees my profile? no one irl knows that i'm gay

>>72619672
What am I supposed to do? Refuse the certainity of rent and food only because poorer people exist? Get a grip.

>>72619625
>Are you already a good enough performer to play professionally?
I'm not, although I'm currently studying all day long piano with the guidance of two good teachers.

>Do you have enough money to hire musicians to play your compositions?
I'm pretty sure that if I could compose good compositions I could have them performed easily: I'm basically a social virtuoso, and I'm sure that I can convince most people to follow me, but I'm not comfortable with doing so without a good reason to do so (namely: good compositions).

Can you answer to my original question? Is there some sort of treshold, just like, for example, in piano virtuosity, in which after a certain age the naturalness of pure virtuosity can't be attained anymore. Does this apply to composition as well? And if the answer is no, how much does formal education usually last?
I know that it is a lifelong pursuit, I'm talking only about basic proficiency and validity here.

>>72620308
>>72620443
also what are average prices for this kind of thing

>>72620443
It doesn't need to be too subtle, just subtle enough so your account won't get b&. Write a couple sentences about yourself on your page and also add something like "I like to have fun as a male escort sometimes ;)" there. Use your imagination, I'm not your pimp, lol.

>what if someone i know sees my profile? no one irl knows that i'm gay
That's something you'll have to figure out for yourself.

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>infinite universes
>we're born in the one in which Mozart never got to meditate or do yoga

We've missed on the supremely chill music, my friends.

>>72621060
Fuck off with that muzak crap.

Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqIKaMNr0tw

>Rachmaninoff, too, trusted and considered those who paid to hear him. He matter-of-factly confided, in a late letter to his friend Nikolai Medtner, that he let the coughing in the hall regulate the length of his Variations on a Theme of Corelli. (“When the coughing increases, I leave out the next variation. If
there is no coughing, I play them in order. At one small-town concert, I forget where, they coughed so, that I only played 10 variations out of 20. The record so far is 18 variations, in New York.”)

Kek

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>>72620558
>Does this apply to composition as well?
No. Unless you're trying to come up with a new system of music, composition depends a lot more on crystallised intelligence than fluid intelligence (google the terms). The reason why playing an instrument at a very high level is harder the older you get is that memorisation (i.e. learning a new piece by heart; sight reading skills do not decay, but some pieces you just can't play unless you commit them to memory) and motor control deteriorate after a certain age.

>how much does formal education usually last?
google it you idiot.

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>>72621368
https://clyp.it/urjreyyh

Can anyone identify this? Its almost definitely Schubert. If not Schubert then Schumann..

>>72621060
Mozart was a Freemason, he got to do much more.

>>72621901
Like what?

>>72621924
;)

>>72621945
Child sacrifice?

>>72616859
there is a satie disc here

https://mega.nz/#F!pWR0zABY!xCwF1rEfXiyEy5HuhTDP0Q

Can I get some piano + cello youtube links, I don't really care what it is, I just love that instrument combination.

>>72622033
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XiYrzsgWto

>>72610022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrW3TE5zyb4

>>72621806
I think you transcribed it inaccurately. That doesn't sound like anything Schubert or Schumann would write.

>>72622099
Well its just a prompt, I don't presume to perfectly replicate the work of great composers.

>>72621308
This reminded me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAaU8yPXA1A

>>72622209
No, what I meant is I'm not sure what you posted is similar enough to what you remember (what sounds in your head). It's not even remotely recognisable as something Schubert would have written, let alone some specific Schubert piece.

If anyone manages to figure that one out, hats off to them.

>>72622467
Man, the look on the violinists face
Classic

>>72622604
is there something particularly off about it? Sounds pretty diatonic to me family.

>>72622467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu1-1zUWU5Q

>>72622033

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H17wFP9n7RY

fuck rich people

>>72623502
Always my choice too. Less disease.

>>72623502
>>72623524
Rich people also pay more if you're presentable enough.

>>72616359
You suck dick.

>>72620558
>I'm basically a social virtuoso
You're a clueless twit.

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>wake up
>suddenly talk of dick sucking

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I've always fucking hated Beethoven, but kinda liked shit like Vivaldi.
Does that make me a meme?

>>72625432
Depends. What kind of Vivaldi do you like?

>>72625432
Having shit taste is not enough to become the subject of a meme.

>>72614017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmc6KV0_UVM

>>72625581
I want to sodomize her while she tries to play the guitar.

>>72614017
>>72614081
>>72614158
>>72614171
>>72614271
>>72614371
>>72614509
>>72614585
>>72615602
Here you go faggots, now you can't say there is no good music for classical guitar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KayDb1fBSY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGKan6eX5ug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qmZ7gXejGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZidwmtaPyko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz-qFc_aAXY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KQV4pYn6kE

>>72614555
trips confirm, this is another good one, thanks for posting.

>>72624264
I've got no reason to lie to you: why would I self-sabotage myself by including false informations in the post in which I'm asking for advices and insights?

>>72617423
>half of the posters who voted so far are neither snobs nor bitter music students
Interesting.

>>72625104
It's not the dick sucking that surprises me. It's the part where the animeposter is giving tips on how to whore yourself out to other men. I haven't seen something like this on 4chan in years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A6BfyhFSVQ

>>72626065
Exactly, ya'll need Jesus.

>>7262610
yeah

So I'm not dumb for thinking HWV427 is incredibly un-engaging right?

>baroque memery animeposter
>obnoxious oboist animeposter
and now
>a male prostitute animeposter

anime should be illegal.

>>72626615
>implying they all aren't the same poster
>implying this isn't Ame playing sixth-dimensional aerodynamic chess to get us listening to Gould's Mozart

>>72626679
I'm not sure about the oboist and the whore (theyre both yuropoors for one) but the baroquefag has been posting for a long time before they came along.

Does anyone have a record of Messiaen's Des canyons besides the one from the LPO?

What are some really "out there" interpretations that you love? Things which probably don't necessarily coincide directly with what the composer intended, but which you can't help loving anyway?

>/mu/ unironically likes u2 now

jesus christ

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>>72626828
Disc 21 & 22 are Myung-Whun Chung

https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3526919

>>72627009
wrong thread buddy

>>72627108
Thanks.

Is this sonata in E-minor the best piece ever composed? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRcnnId15BA

>>72627366
excellent use of the counterpoint by Sir Fifty Cent

Spotify has a surprisingly good amount of classical records.

>tfw had some drinks earlier in which two female singers made some stupid remark about something "all male singers do" (vocalising an "N" sound before singing consonants) which is patently ridiculous but I'm now going to be very paranoid about in future.
>>72617088
watch The Passenger my man
>>72626613
>a suite by Handel
Probably. Handel's ensemble instrumental music is generally p boring unless it's tied to an opera/oratorio
>>72627855
pity they're tagged like hot faeces

Sales Baillot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrrCqz5ONJY

>handlel

Handel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYsr5nUrEGQ

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>>72617060
Maisky

>>72619939
That is so Babbitt I can't even.

>>72628961
>not a single Harnoncourt recording to be seen
>Schiff Bach
'no'

>>72625545
No fucking idea.
Have just noticed whenever I'm browsing stations & one of the <90 stations is playing something I can tolerate, it tends to be bach or vivaldi.

>>72625569
>he unironically likes that overrated trash-spewer
inb4 you put your unborn baby through beethoven womb-hell

>>72630156
>being this pleb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVcfTzw9BRo
inb4 you underrate Mozart too.

>>72614017
Bach - little fugue
easy to play and sounds great

vivaldi master race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytw99mkVZ8I

Reminder that classical music isn't dying and plenty of contemporary music is on par with classics.

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>>72630212
>that second movement

>>72630530
Nice damage control, composer

>>72630713
Name 5 pieces from the past decade you have heard.

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>>72630156
Here are some of the patrician violin concertos that Vivaldi composed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yK-ZHnVLNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F34QYKVsLrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8h6sD87SMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNuMoDO9Uo4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvq2J2EvzEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gtTC0qfFnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCQkFQ26-lw
The general rule of thumb is that anything that's popular is bad for composers like Vivaldi and Pachelbel, etc. I'll also be making a Vivaldi chart some time in the future so you can look forward to that.

>>72630530
reminder that humanity has 50-100 years tops, art has no chance of redeeming us at this point anyway, so just make whatever

>>72615059
Thanks for posting these! I always love learning more about instruments and their rep that im not familiar with

>>72630530
>plenty of contemporary music is on par with classics
fptmiu

>>72630530
Like what?

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Here's 7 variations on a theme by Leopold Mozart I've just composed (2:10 in total, the variations start at 0:26, in order: Theme, Allegro molto, Moderato, Romantico, Agitato, Tarantella, Toccata, Marcia Funebre).

https://clyp.it/z3yjg1hs


Can any of you guys give me an opinion on this piece? It's one of the first things I've composed, I've mainly did it as a transcription exercise, and I don't know if I should show it to my piano teacher.

>>72618371
Nothing wrong with that. Everyone needs to earn a living.
>>72618279
It's okay.

>>72620443
Tell them you were only trolling.

>>72623502

Denn die einen sind im Dunkeln
Und die andern sind im Licht
Und man siehet die im Lichte
Die im Dunkeln sieht man nicht.

Why does /μ/ hate Chopin?

Is it because of the that fugue he wrote?

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>>72625801
Good taste my friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0ifnfhJsGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsuAZ69UfbA

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>>72631491
HARDLY
A
R
D
L
Y

>>72604158
>>72606006
What the fuck, which one of these links has Gorecki? I feel like i've looked through all of them 10 times now. Am i retarded?

>>72631545
I don't get it.

>>72631100
No one?
Come on, do it for the dubs

>>72631581
It is highly likely that no one uploaded any Gorecki because his music is garbage.

>>72604158
audio quality?

>>72632056
Typically people upload V0, but there is FLAC in some of those folders too. File size should allow you to determine which is which; a single disc in FLAC is usually 300MB or more, while V0 will be closer to 100MB.

petzold was a monkey

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Looking for the most brutal, punishing, infernal classical music in existence. Pic related.

>>72632450
This has more in common with Peter Brötzmann than anything, but that's jazz.

>>72632632
I love me some Brötzmann, but I was hoping to find something in the realm of composed music.

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>>72631860
>>72631100
come onnnnnnn
it's just 2 minutes
please listen to it and give me an opinion, I honestly don't know if it is good enough for me to show it to my teacher. I'm seriously concerned about her laughing at me for some naivety that, as a beginner composer, I still can't see.
Should I show it to her?

>>72631694
The joke is that it is his most famous piece.

>>72631100
>https://clyp.it/z3yjg1hs
meh. Everyone knows writing a fugue is the measure of a good composer. Learn how to write them and then we can give you some real feedback.

http://hugoribeiro.com.br/biblioteca-digital/Norden-Foundation_studies_Fugue.pdf

Have Stokowski every done a Brahms cycle?

>>72632704
I'm not sure I've come across anything that sustains that kind of furious sound, but you might get a kick out of parts of Ferneyhough's Time & Motion Study II, or certain works of Xenakis.

>>72632450

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82M0wbxZ5R8

Why should or should't Bach be done with OVPP?
Händel as well, for that matter.

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>>72632450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ritKO8qWL-o

reminds me of pic related. I don't know how you could listen to that on its own.

what are labels that distribute high audio quality recordings that are worth buying?

Telemann bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxi4ogYJLAw

>>72632987
With Philadelphia, yes. The recordings date from the 20s and 30s. You can find Marston's transfers on Pippo.

The 2nd is a bit of a dud, though. The real highlights are the 1st and 4th ... though the 3rd is quite good too. Unfortunately, aside from the 4th, all of the recordings sound a bit distant due to the acoustic. Ironically Stokowski's first electrical recording from 1925 -- which utilized the "acoustic" arrangement (reduced forces and a few absent instruments) -- sounds far more transparent than most of his later 20s/30s recordings. Still, the recordings are most certainly worth hearing if you want to experience it with the Philly's in their prime form. Especially the recording of the 1st, which has some pretty extraordinary playing.

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>>72632887
Of course I will, I've already started studying harmony and theory 3 days ago (although everything I've learnt so far is too basic for me to apply it).
Still I'd love to hear an actual opinion on these variations: it's basically my first attempt at composition. I do not have high hopes for it to be a good piece of music, still I'm interested in knowing of good it is, considering my lack of compositional knowledge.

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hngh

>>72633556
Linn
ECM
Hyperion
Sono Luminus

>>72633556
Brilliant Classics

>>72634874
>high quality

Petzold

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>>72633315
I'd really appreciate a quick rundown on this.

>>72634788
>I'm interested in knowing of good it is
not very. Getting good at something takes 10,000 hours. If you put in the hours, you will become good.

>>72635364
>just 5 years of 40-hour work-weeks
ow

>>72635364
Any specific criticism?
As I said I know that becoming a full-fledged composer takes lots of time, that's why I've explicitly stated it multiple times. Now can you please say anything about the music, regarding to my original question?

What would happen if I gave this composition to an actual piano virtuoso? Would he consider me a retard? Would he consider it a good first, basic attempt? Would he congratulate me?
Can I show this composition to my piano teacher without having him losing all of his respect for me?

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Quick what is the best Messiah?
I've heard great things about Gardiner, Pinnock, Christie, Suzuki, and Davis.

Dunayevsky bump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtJgiTeyaQ0

>>72635704
Suzuki.

>>72635423
pretty much. If you're just starting composing, expect to keep doing it for at least 5 years, if not 10 before you start to get "good"

>>72635460
read Schoenberg's 'Fundamentals of musical composition", its a good primer. giving you legit feedback would require looking at the score and spending time going through it. I don't have the time or inclination to do that for free.

>tfw having to make custom album covers for my captured radio broadcasts and yet I have 0 aesthetic sense
It hurts

>>72634848
upload or else

>>72633556
Not easily answered, honestly. Even the very good labels, like MDG, can have variable sound quality. It really depends on the engineer and the post production.

>>72626968
Anything by Gould

His Bach is so wrong and yet so right

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>>72626968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvN9dcmkO98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pHqOK7e21A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9A-EbjwPhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQM4jNh9CDg

Ligeti
(underrated)

>>72635868
or else

Beethoven bump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX9tpnO5uEs

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Wassenaer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8lzbFkrlUs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unico_Wilhelm_van_Wassenaer#Music
>Concerto Armonico No. 2 in B flat Major (Allegro moderato) was among the works that formed the basis for Igor Stravinsky's Pulcinella, Tarantella, based on works considered at the time to be by Giovanni Battista Pergolesi.
Confirmed ahead of his time.

>>72637079
How many fucking composers was Hackvinsky """""influenced""""" by?

>>72626968
Scriabin 5 by Gould.

>>72626968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR_TAuN16T0

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>>72626615
>>obnoxious oboist
No u!
If anything, your incessant whining about anime only makes me want to post more. :*

>>72626968
Celibidache's later performances, of Bruckner in particular.

>>72631100
>>72632758
>>72635460
I don't know if you'll get to read this post (I wish you would, because you need to read this) seeing how the thread is nearing bump limit and we live in different timezones but here goes --

Your personality is a poor fit for this and you lack the talent to compensate for it. You're too insecure and starving for approval. You will never make it with this attitude.

Your variations, they're... poor. The 4th one in particular is the most unpianistic spasm imaginable; spamming chord patterns / 'strumming' (on the piano) may work for punk, but it won't cut it for classical. Same with your "toccata", you're only splitting and doubling the notes of the theme haphazardly (your first variation with the arpeggiations at the beginning is more like a toccata than your "toccata"). Ditto for the "tarantella".
But worst of all, you completely misconstrue the 'flow' of the theme you're basing your variations on. You don't 'look ahead' or consider the previous progression at all, you mostly modify the original melody beat by beat. You're writing music like a dumb robot.

Are you the idiot upthread who couldn't even be bothered to look up how long it takes to get a music degree? If yes: forget you ever wanted to be a composer!

>>72631100
I'm a music theory pleb so I'll just tell you how I think it sounds.

The part before 0:26 sounds like a beginner playing the piano. But I like how most of 0:26 - 1:04 sounds. Then it turns to shit with some sort of robotic key mashing and doesn't get any better later.

>>72634788
Here's the thing with variations: they're the easiest thing to write. It's basically an editing job. It depends more on your familiarity with playing techniques on a particular instrument than musical inventiveness. Any performer can come up with however many variations on whatever theme for their instrument on the spot.

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>>72631942
>Gorecki is garbage

t. I only enjoy maximalism

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Always surprised at how different young Pavarotti looks

>>72639910
It's the beard isn't it?

>>72639798

Stop posting Wojak or go back to plebbit.

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hnng

>>72640208
hell yeah, Claudiohohoh Arrawowow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmXn9rNWyu4

>>72639798
>shit at writing variations for the piano
>likes Gorecki
why am I not surprised

>>72635704
Pinnock.

What is the best youtube channel for classical?

>>72640208
Pls gib link

>>72640423
addiobelpassato

>>72640423
Classical Music/ /Reference Recording

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWdCh5-XQRM

>>72639910
>>72639933
Yeah, cover the lower half of his face and he's recognizable.

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Damn, Pavarotti looked like THAT??

>>72640617
I bet /classical/ is salivating right now. he
he


he, he
....hehehe

>>72640423
incontrario motu

>>72640699
new thread here
>>72640707
btw

>>72640720
>fap bait again

for what pvrpose.jpg

>>72639798
Actually I'm lukewarm on Babbitt. He is actually a good composer, though, unlike Gorecki.

>>72641007
because people asking for source will keep the thread bumped.