>>62032879 There's nothing wrong with either repetition or drone, I enjoy plenty of music containing such elements. The problem with this record is that fucking repetition is all that it is. Ambient music should be both reptitive and also calming but it needs to have something to make it more than just a synthesizer wankfest. And that's exactly what's wrong with this hunk of shit.
>>62032947 That doesn't stop it from being incredibly dull and boring. The orchestra is quite obvious throughout the album, the guitar less so but through the fucking endless layers of reverb you can hear it. The instrumentation used does not stop the album from literally being a soft music dronefest. It literally doesn't even try to make itself interesting, it's so damn boring that someone who just drank cups of coffee after listening to 3 grindcore albums would fall asleep while listening to this within the first fucking disk.
>>62032970 That's up to the musician to be creative about it. It can be anything really. I'm not an ambient musician so I wouldn't know. My point is that this record doesn't even try to entertain the listener. It just does its boring crap for 2 hours straight and expects you to go along with it, no explanations included.
Music for Airports is grossly overrated. I much prefer Another Green World. Music for Airports is tolerable but it's not something I'd go crazy over. So just because of the genre name it has the right to literally be a wankfest? Why can't it be ambient AND interesting at the same time? Ambient implies its background music, but that doesn't stop it from being entertaining background music. What a lazy excuse to be a shitty uninspired musician.
I'm not that big a fan of ambient, I just like some albums in the genre. But the record OP posted was just fucking awful. There are no fucking subtle changes on that album aside from the occasional bass drone coming in. It's literally, like I said, holding the same note for 5-8 minutes. How exactly do you listen to something like that and go "wow, this is entertaining and doesn't fucking make me want to fall asleep"?
>>62033122 I was, I was paying attention to the whole thing, waiting for it to suddenly come out and impress me with something I hadn't noticed before. But no, I was left there hanging for two fucking hours. Every now and then there'll be an instrument that comes out to the top of the mix and actually plays some passable chord changes, and once in a while you get some bass drones. But that's it. No interesting textures, no well done sound effects, no entertaining instrumentations, just endless boredom. And really it's quite ironic how it's supposed to be calming music when it just makes you anxious as to when it will start getting interesting. >>62033133 Make me, you waste of fucking dubs.
Here's some of my stuff. Frost is still up for sale on cassette. True to its name, it's some cold wintery music. I performed it live this month and it was a lot of fun. Here's a clip from the show. I forgot my tape loops for the song at home so I had to play it off my phone and add layers with guitar over. It went well except for when I got a notification and it made a beep. I then turned it to airplane mode haha.
who else /fuzzambient/ here? really loud, thick, grainy, fuzzy, huge and monolithic ambient is my jam
for example this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBmITEYut6M
pic related, its how I feel when I listen to my favorite ambient
can give recs, will accept recs too
>>62033154 Mirages by Hecker feel like night to me for wintery ambient, go to arctic ambient, i.e. any ambient that features snow on the cover and makes you feel hypothermia (Biosphere, Thomas Koner, Sleep Research Facility, Lull) if you feel your fingers freezing you can try Benoit Pioulard - Sonnet to combat that, its (a)aoty2015 imo and is very summery, lush and garden-y ambient
>>62033588 I have listened to plenty of genres, I have heard a lot of minimalistic music, but why is "you don't get it man it's SUPPOSED to be boring listen to another genre" an excuse for plain laziness? >also there are changes in the album For some reason despite this being your only defense of it I have given more examples of changes in it than you have. Ironic isn't it?
>>62033851 dank meme friendo :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) >>62033875 So because I'm not a spoilt manchild who wastes his money on buying a new pair of headphones just for a shitty album ambient music is not for me? Try harder.
>>62033902 some of these are really popular and some not, but maybe others will appreciate even the obvious picks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOdlVBidKqc https://vimeo.com/100673989 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRj-ytSIJWU (Ravedeath is thick too but in a different way) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ek8O61ppyg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Gr63D3qaE
if its too light go to noisier stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euHoHdpGOa0 or noisier+industrialier stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YJAz4VXBEA or darker, more atmospheric and ocassionally even metal stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udEzv3gdgcs
thats mostly what I got, hopefully someone else can link more stuff
>>62033969 nah, I wasn't the guy with the headphones, actually I don't think you need some specific headphones for ambient as long as they aren't V-shape sounding, any neutral phones will do, and lets face it, you shouldnt ever buy any non-neutral ones anyway. I'm just saying that I don't see what you're looking to achieve in this thread other than being all around jackass.
>>62034195 I'm not being a jackass, unless stating your own opinion is being a jackass. If anything you've been extremely vague about why this album is good. You've been saying "woah it has variation man" without giving examples of said variation. "i bet you don't even like music for airports fuckign plen", "this genre isn't for u man get out plox" and various other off topic things which still do not prove why this album is good. If you can't argue your points without resorting to empty insults and vague references then please leave 4chan.
>>62034242 Man, I don't like Tired Sounds that much either anymore now that I've explored ambient more, its good sleepycore but I prefer my ambient more engaging; you don't see me posting "DUDE REPETITION LMAO" and about how fucking shit it is though. If you wanted reasonable discussion you would have started it reasonably. In my country there is a saying, bad questions deserve bad answers, it reminds me of this. Post some of your favorite ambient and lets make this thread worthwhile, its rare for ambient generals to survive more than six or so hours anyway.
>>62034504 these are a few charts I have if you see some artists on multiple charts they're probably good I'll also post the Tim Hecker flowchart for all the sad folks who don't know his discog by heart yet
>>62034531 Virgins is his newest one and definitely the most forward thinking, experimental and unique one, so don't expect more stuff like that from him just yet (maybe later this year when the new album comes out). His other records are more conventional in comparison, but that doesn't mean they're worse. Personally my favorite is Ravedeath which he made right before Virgins, but its a different beast altogether. Click through some of his stuff on YT or try the chart, see if anything interests you. >>62034533
>>62032864 Great. You'll like this: https://vimeo.com/64863911 https://vimeo.com/122562200 What do you think if this, particularly the film?: https://vimeo.com/125255469
>>62033457 http://ennnnnnn.bandcamp.com/track/a-dying-sun-return-to-holyoke http://ennnnnnn.bandcamp.com/track/pratyaya Try this, it's my favourite ambient/drone group and one of my favourite albums. What do you think?
Also: https://soundcloud.com/studentsofdecay/blonde-is-back?in=studentsofdecay/sets/en-city-of-brides https://jamesdevane.bandcamp.com/ More emphasis on drone: http://ennnnnnn.bandcamp.com/album/blood
Sean McCann - Ten Impressions for Piano & Strings is one of my AOTY's, though not fuzzy.
>>62034609 That's the laziest excuse I've seen for that album so far in this thread. Here's an example. Aphex Twin's SAW II manages to be 30 minutes longer than that hunk of shit, yet twice as interesting. Both are undeniably ambient records, why is AFX so much better at making ambient music that's eyecatching and suitable background music for sleeping, doing work, etc.?
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