>>61925636 Bowie hopped on trends too, he just did it before other famous people did. He didn't have a lot of musical originality desu, but he was really good at finding interesting musicians and creating something worthwhile inspired by them.
>>61925845 he didn't set the trends in the '70s, anon. just because everyone sucks his dick retroactively 'cause they like his music doesn't mean he set a single trend.
>David Bowie self-explanatory - plenty of rock singer/songwriter crooner types making forgettable one-offs >Space Oddity-Diamond Dogs whatever you think of the quality of these albums, Bowie's visual style was the only really original thing he produced in this era. he was copping the glam stylings and sounds of other acts like New York Dolls, T. Rex, and Lou Reed's live performances. he was arguably setting a trend here in that he was part of the first wave of popular glam acts, so i can concede this bit partially, but he hardly single-handedly set this trend. >Young Americans i really hope you don't think a Brit invented funk music >Station to Station and Berlin trilogy literally had the person making that sound produce his album for him (Eno) as well as copying earlier and better krautrock bands. again, nothing original.
But to say that Eno alone is responsible for his 'unique' sound during the berlin period is giving bowie less credit than he deserves. The krautrock influences are there yes but blatantly copying is too far
Station to station is somewhat a pastiche of many different styles blended into one truly unique sound. Imo his best and most innovating work
Also he launched the careers of and co-wrote/produced both lou reeds transfomer and pops the idiot ( their best works, both infulential, the latter would inspire many post-punk artists)
>>61926046 >Good sales, views, stream counts These are all pretty much because the media is talking about him. I highly doubt that even normie rock listeners would be able to name one song off the album and will likely forget about it by the end of the year.
>>61926228 >launched the careers of Lou Reed and Iggy Pop, two people who had their own successful punk bands before David Bowie even released an album what the fucking fuck are you talking about
and name one specific contribution Bowie made besides coked out weirdo vocals on Warszawa to the disarming textures of the Berlin trilogy. and detail the pastiche you claim on Station to Station. clearly you're identifying a host of influences, so name them. also, spoiler: pastiche != innovation
i don't care if people like Bowie; i'm just sick of people confusing him for an innovative and singular artist. he was a great interpreter of more daring genres for pop audiences in the '70s and a decent pop artists thereafter. he touched a lot of lives which has its own value. but to claim that the history of 20th century music would be dramatically different without him is a massive overstatement reliant more on sales figures and popularity than on musicology.
>>61926392 >>61926436 yes, he worked with his friends on their early solo material. to claim he "launched" the career of either or was fundamental in their later success, especially in the case of Reed, whom he religiously copied in his earliest days and throughout his career, is extreme revisionism and ignorance of how big those two were in the underground going into their collaborations with him. it's like calling Brian Eno responsible for the success of U2.
>>61926669 He didn't directly copy vu, vu was just so monumental in rock music that they (in)directly influenced everyone that came after But it's true that bowie adored reeds work with the velvet underground
And I didn't mean launched in the commercial sense, I meant he gave them both new artistical direction, a foundation they build their careers upon And when he literally wrote all the music on the idiot ( which hah a huge influence on post-punk) it's safe to say that he did more than 'work with his friends'
Tbqh I also don't like how they're blowing everything out of proportion after his death, but credit were credit is due
>Hard Candy (2008), yet another terrible album, used an impressive cast of producers (Nate "Danja" Hills, Timbaland, Justin Timberlake, Pharrell Williams) to craft predictable and trivial dance numbers such as Four Minutes. About to turn 50, Madonna is turning into one ugly dumb middle-age woman who is still desperate for sex, perhaps because her private life was such a failure. S A V A G E
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