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LUFS edition

post your LUFS high scores here
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>>61889107
is that without distorting?
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>>61889186
LOL
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>>61889223
LOL
/thread
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Ableton or logic?
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>>61889356
>apple
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>>61889395
>windows
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>>61889437
>he unironically buys apple products

i hope you are not serious
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>>61889437
>computers
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>>61889476
>smoking cigars
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>>61889107
>>61889186
>>61889223
>>61889294
>>61889395
>>61889437
>>61889474
>>61889476
Good to see /prod/ off to a good start
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>>61889507
reddit is just a bookmark click away, friend!
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>>61889507
Hey it's better than the typical Shitposting we get.
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>>61889504
>implying it's a cigar
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hey guys, do you put your drums in mono? there was a retard in the other thread arguing that all drums should be in mono, baka desu
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>>61889572
Kick, Snare, sometimes LT if it's really low like a 909.
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>>61889572
no, in the other thread there was a guy who linked a very useful video

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf2NGI7TFmM

which details, from the horses mouth, why drums should be in mono.

what was being discussed is an integral part of a mono/stereo mix
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>>61889572
cymbals and hats mono, snare left, kick right both at 98-99%, depends on mix, but never go 100% and dont mix these two up, snare is always left desu
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>>61889643
yeah, I'm that guy, those whole series and "into the lairs" with Dave are just priceless if you're into that stuff, and in my opinion, making your music sound good / listenable is the key to reach the audience nowadays.
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>>61889643
>>61889681
this was made in 2012 and he only seems to mix nigger music
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>>61889668
what, hard panning drums huh
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https://clyp.it/2iuyxtyl

mix feedback pls ;;;;)
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>>61889743
That one you posted without the sample was better
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>>61889743
who stole the low end? was it the niggers that you sampled?
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>>61889668
this seems pretty silly to me desu

>>61889681
you cant polish a turd but its the bells and whistles that get people noticed

>>61889712
are you intentionally being retarded?
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Does anyone remember the guy who insisted that you should make entire mixes mono for clubs?
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>>61889714
I like to hard pan my drums because it gives my music a very 60s, warm, analog feel. you know what I'm saying boy?
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>>61889789
yeah, very warm, makes me wanna shoot up a school
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>>61889779
:P nice

>>61889764
yeah im just kinda using it as a placeholder atm
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>>61889783
nigger music isnt for normal human consumption so no
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Waldorf just stepped up their eurorack game
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Studio One master race
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>>61889786
no, but it's true the majority of clubs are mono
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>>61889924
A challenger appears
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>>61889963
man, I don't wanna sound like an apple customer but the looks of this is just wonderful
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>>61889869
>implying nigger music doesnt make the most money and deal with the biggest names
>implying the people who work on nigger music arnt the best in the world

protip: they are
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>>61889395
>windows
enjoy your telemetry nerd
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>>61889572
i mono everything below 180hz
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>>61889712
>>61889519
>>61889520
>racists and GB2REDDIT and meme defeners
holy shit nuke this garbagepile of a thread
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>>61889995
that will all change when trump is elected and degeneracy is eliminated

>>61890039
>say NO to racism!

fact is brown people are more of a burden on western societies than their native white people who built the society in the first place

especially those entitled BLM wogs and the latest golden globe "MUH DIVERSITY HANDOUTS" chimps
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>>61890107
>it's a /pol/ thinks they aren't the real subhuman garbage episode
i bet you make terrible music
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>>61890154
became a millionaire last year m8

fuck off to tumblr you faggot
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STOP SHIT POSTING

NAMM IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN
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>>61890181
>unbelievable bullshit
>catchphrases
yup, /pol/ in a nutshell
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wish they would stop making mini keys
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>>61890193
>STOP SHITPOSTING
No.
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>>61890181
hey can we keep the discussion about music?
what genre do you produce?
>>61890213
Why? I have an AKAI LPK25 and I love it, it's always with me when I travel
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>>61890107
I listen to a wide variety of music. Drum and bass, hiphop, grime, poppunk, metal, screamo, emo, classical, dubstep and the way sound interacts is the same from one form to another.

The tools and tricks involved in making nigger music are easily transferable to improve the product of other genres, considering everything is an application of theory.

Can some mod just ban him or something for off topic posts?
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>>61890209
of course it would be unbelievable to a professional unemployed loser such as yourself

>>61890233
a variety

>>61890234
>being this asshurt
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>>61890213
>mini key width 3/4"
>normal key width 7/8"
>room below the black keys on mini keys 1 1/4"
>room below the black keys on mini keys 1 7/8"
wish people would stop acting like mini keys are a real hindrance
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>>61890255
it's unbelievable because you're obviously just a /pol/teen and nobody would even give you a minimum wage job much less a million dollars
>>61890234
>nigger music
jesus how many 16 year olds are in here right now?
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>>61890306
>xe think you are just "given" a million dollars

sheltered middle class starbucks dweller detected. reminder you are the cancer eating away at society and gentrifying music.
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>>61890268
you must only play in c maj
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>>61890365
a min actually ;^)
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>>61890345
>aren't i just so against the grain, everybody? i bet you've never seen anybody THIS edgy and right wing before. what do you think of THAT, liberal establishment???
>>61890365
would you also like the specs on the negligible size differences between the black keys instead of just being able to glean the general point being made?
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>>61890234
Nearly all of those genres you mentioned are trash.
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>>61890403
HAHA you are literally straight out of tumblr ROFL

remember your family just tolerates you and you have no actual friends and then kill yourself

>purity ring is my favorite band xDD
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>>61890443
>catchphrases and projecting
you gonna burn yourself out soon there kiddo?
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>>61890403
mini keys are only fit for your boyish libtard hands.
try working a real job and then tell me mini keys are fine.
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>>61890268
Mini keys do suck for certain things, and don't act like listing off a bunch of measurements changes that.

That said, I'm not the same type to complain about monikers all the time. They're fine for monosynths or polysynth with very few voices, when space on a stage is tight.
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>>61890488
>>catchphrases and projecting

how triggered are you by pic related?

or this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAYPN-1Yjt0
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>>61890255
could you name some people you produced for or co-produced? how did you get your music to reach the artists you tried to work with?
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>>61890255
disgusting

>>61890405
>nearly all of those genres you mentioned are trash

what are you talking about we're talking about the objective use of sound engineering to achieve sound quality not subjective tastes in genres
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>>61890547
>monikers should be minikeys
Autocorrect really doesn't like minikeys
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>>61890543
>>61890548
>all these catchphrases and maymays and /pol/ diarrhea
do you even own an instrument/have a daw installed on your computer or are you just here for this?
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>>61890579
That doesn't make your taste any less bad
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>>61890601
>oh man lol have you ever heard of someone MY age who only listens to classical music and nazi marches??? my mom just can't figure out what to make of it XD
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worst /prod/ in weeks
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>>61890574
lol

>>61890579
fuk off

>>61890597
>being this triggered

>>61890629
nobody even posted LUFS
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>>61890629
it's because it got started while the last one was alive, it jinxed it

nah but really it's just this one guy being the living embodiment of 2 digit IQs
>>61890645
and here he is again, unable to go 2 posts without a /pol/ catchphrase
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>>61890627
>he doesn't like garbage
>he must only listen to classical music and nazi music
If we were in Olympic mental gymnastics, you'd be taking the gold home
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>>61890665
>muh /pol/ boogeyman

can you get a trip so we can filter your shit posts and autism

thanks
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>>61890597
>>61890665
holy fuck dude just stop arguing with him... he won't grab you through your screen and make you continue to feed his bullshit
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>>61890601
lol my taste is that of a happy young fella who doesnt need to masturbate to pictures of a frog while spouting meymeys about a man who is taking his country for a ride
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>>61890677
we all know it's you, /pol/teen
>>61890705
same for this post
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>>61890835
you are in a minority here, tumblr hugbox faggot

reddit is more your speed
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>>61890874
>catchphrases 2: electric memealoo
i hope you at least apologize to your parents for how short of their expectations you're falling
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>>61890835
Shitbag, I'm insulting /pol/teen's shit taste.
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>>61890874
you are what you surround yourself with

you have surrounded yourself with bigotry, i have not.

>tumblr hugbox
>in a thread about music production

people are literally here to help each other...
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>>61890926
>>catchphrases 2: electric memealoo

can i upvote this

also, get your own insults you pathetic worm

>>61890956
>bigotry

feel le bern
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Stop bickering already you fucking retards.
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>>61890965
>get your own insults
like triggered and tumblr and hugbox and reddit?
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>>61891067
none were used by any other posters in this thread previously

i literally called you out for being a shitlib let down to everyone that's ever encountered you, specifically your parents, and then you just said the same thing to me but without the gravitas

you are a weak, autistic beta male and your taste in music is also shit you faggot

trump 2016
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>>61890965
you probably dont even realise how happy other people are

i hope you wake up soon anonkun
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>>61891114
he probably doesn't even realize other people ARE happy lol
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>>61891114
>>61891168
>muh happiness, candyfloss and flowers!

dude weed lmao

dude peace and love lmao

see you down starbucks in 20 xoxo
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>>61891105
>none were used by any other posters in this thread previously
that's because we generally do a good job of keeping out garbagepeople
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Are there any guides to creating a home studio?

I have some shit monitors, shit beat headphones, m audio 32 keys, maschine micro, shit audio interface. My setup is garbage and its so frustrating
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>>61891196
>happiness is for lame-o's and hippies. they'd be miserable too if they were REDPILLED and awake like ME!
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>>61891200
>garbagepeople

>>61891202
you can produce on any setup

just use a visual eq if your bass is lacking and mix your songs in the same way that the pros do

>>61891225
>LEL i am so happy xDD! I love avicii levels and also drinking starbucks! Bernie 2016 for free college also! fuck capitalism

sent from my iPhone
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>>61891202
That's a better setup than many people have (including me). If you look at the top people they all say the same thing- work with what you have. In the end it's all about you, and your taste, and if you look back to the people that you look up to, they probably worked on a much worse setup.
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>>61891202

What specifically bothers you?

I'd suggest investing in a comfortable chair and some relaxing tea
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>>61891196
>>61891253
>>61891196
i literally couldnt have more pity for that bleak perspective you have


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYUalnzTwnc

neuro is such a high fucking standard god damn it sounds phat on a decent system
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>>61891253
>iphones and starbucks amirite u guyz??? bernie sanders! edm! it'll somehow be insulting if i just keep blasting out this cultural reference buckshot of things i hear the popular kids at school talk about, right?
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/Shitposting/ Shit posting general
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>>61891416
Living in reality can suck sometimes :/

nothing ever came close to pendulum tho

>>61891427
>cultural buckshot

sounds like your next mixtape, pic related it's you
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Is there any advantage to using straight samples instead of vst instruments like in kontakt
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>>61889107
I hate loud shit
this is the worst I'd do to a pop track
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>>61891508
>Living in reality can suck sometimes :/
oh wow lol he really IS one of these people. i called it in >>61891225
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Why is it so easy to troll this guy
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>>61891682
at least I dont look like this
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>>61891508
like i told you last time, you are what you surround yourself with

your reality is clearly warped by the internet and the hate you feel for your peers

>>61891598
audio uses less CPU

but personally i advocate using samples (or bouncing your midi to audio) because its also easier to warp the sound to whats in your head.

there is to some degree a mould to which midi instruments will always be confined by - until they are turned to audio.

>>61891642
>not producing at -15 - 20db
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>>61891734
all my friends are on the same level as me m8, and hopefully you will be one day too

>being an internet psychologist

nothing cringier
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>>61891733
i dont either lol, do you think you would have to start looking like this to be happy and stop thinking that MUH LIBRULS DESTROYING MUH GREAT AMERICA?
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>>61891760
>nothing cringier
i can think of one thing...
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>>61891778
why do you think you can seriously discern somebody's emotional state from their posts on an internet forum? it's really quite sad to see how easily rused kids are on 4chan nowadays.

>>61891805
>liberal thinking

nice oxymoron
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>>61891847
because you far right wackadoo /pol/ types types are generally angry and paranoid. it's like your default setting
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>>61891847
also, y'know, the fact that you're actively mocking the concept of being happy and equating it to ignorance or lack of mental capacity to drink all the /pol/ koolaid
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>>61891760
im not being a psychologist by any means, i am stating the objective fact that
>you are what you surround yourself with


>cringing on an anonymous board
why are you so invested in this if we dont even have your respect? if we are so below you then why even bother?

>my friends are on the same level as me m8
well done friendo

>>61891847
i guess i did make a guess about your emotional state, the guess was that you are not happy - i guess i have no backing for that claim - but i do pity you a phenomenal amount regardless.
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>>61891890
If I ask you to explain your post you'll just deflect and avoid, so it's w/e. Just know that your time is up and you don't have long.

>>61891919
define happiness. elucidate on how you have achieved such great levels of comfort and well-being in your life.
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>>61891958
>objectively, you are what you surround yourself with

can you get a trip so we can filter your hippie garbage thanks

>i pity you a phenomenal amount
post your soundcloud so i can have a good chuckle m8
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where's the jerk city spammer when you need him?
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>>61891973
>Just know that your time is up and you don't have long.
Lol, menacing
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hey guys, what do you think?

https://soundcloud.com/rbrbrb-456873015/sets/tway
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>>61892027
post YOUR soundcloud so I can have a good chuckle..
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>>61892239
>he's actually scared by a 4chan post

just wait until trump gets in :DD

>>61892293
>bernt

focus on conveying a different mood in each song

>>61892312
i asked first nigger
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>>61892027
>hippie garbage
faggots surround themselves with faggotss and liberals surround themselves with liberals

why are you just closing your eyes...?

https://soundcloud.com/eu4ix

take your shots senpai my only path is up
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you guys see this shit

which one of you faggots works for sonivox
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>>61892332
>nigger
you win this time..
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>>61892360
$5 says he's a redditor who is out to steal our sweet memes
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>>61892349
learn about mastering and balancing your mixes, and ease up on the swing on your drums. make it more approachable.

unless you want to be super edgy and undercore!
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>>61892349
>https://soundcloud.com/eu4ix
what's wrong with the drums why is this so flat, i cant stand it
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>>61892398
i wouldnt doubt a redditor made that shit

it actually makes more sense than it being some anon
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>>61892349
and also you need to flesh out your songs and make them more interesting and diverse (not the faggot liberal kind of diversity)
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>>61892332
so you're gonna post yours now, right? surely you're actually a musician and not just a stupid teenager
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>>61892563
jokes on you i dont have a soundcloud

but i gave you some good advice if you wanna make it friendo :^)
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>>61892418
only owned the program for around 4 months, slowly just collecting information to refine my sound, learning about mastering has been most of my free time recently.

>>61892436
because of all the shit in the past two threads about mono/stereo drums and i've been experimenting, unless you're talking about older beats - in which case its just because i suck

>>61892461
yeah i work very fast and have no real issues with just working on a tune for 24-48hrs and then start from a blank slate again, i get that it leaves things sounding empty and unfinished but it also allows me to work with more programs, styles, genres which i truly feel is very powerfully accelerating my learning curve.
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>>61889743
It still has a sort of muffled quality to me, but I also still like it.
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>>61892349
first of all don't post sc links, I swear the faggot OP didn't post the pasta but that's just shameless promoting

if you're gonna plug yourself at least post something interesting lmao
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>>61892642
i think soundcloud does something to the uploads that make them sound bad

i think clyp.it sounds better but it probably is placebo effect
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>>61892703
No it's not soundcloud fucks up the quality, clyp.it sounds way better
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>>61892642
hows about you go fuck yourself faglord

>>61892703
SC ruins your quality its a known thing
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>>61892606
The technical side is half of the battle. You have to create a mood with a theme in each song or across a series of songs with the technology you have to make truly good music in my opinion. Try to make something that will really affect the listener.

Keep at it my nigga and vote trump.
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>>61892759
your stuff sucks please quit
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>>61892606
there is a great episode on Pensado's Place about kick drums, you should youtube "pultec pensado kick" i think it has some stupid name like "how to mix fat kick drums" or something to attract idiots, but it's really great
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>>61892807
https://clyp.it/maxk4532
feedback me
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>>61892807
>>61892829
didn't mean to reply to you sorry
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>>61892829
drums need reverb, synths need to be processed more and have a better melody, entire mix needs to sit better together, drums need more punch at the drop

add sidechain compression to kick and maybe the snare
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>>61892779
No
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>>61892779
my stuff is fucking brilliant kmt

>>61892770
i think its quite evident that i work in 16 bar loops and then work backwards when constructing the formation of the song because the songs tend to be quite repetitive and samey, lacking deviation from the main 16.

vote trump to highlight the need for reform in the american politics system

>>61892807
will do thanks
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How do you judge a sound you're trying to go for? Do you play a single note? Scale? A short melody?
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>>61892829
the kicks are not knocking. what you can do is, split the bass (one channel >100 hz, the other <100 hz) and sidechain the <100hz to the kick, so you don't get the fully "ducking" effect like in EDM but your kick is still audible, it's actually a quite cool technique, if I'm not clear enough maybe this one can help you (it's about the 808 but who cares) https://www.gearslutz.com/board/rap-hip-hop-engineering-production/1051933-splitting-your-808-a.html

It's also what is mentioned somewhere here in the episode (don't remember exactly when)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dtj7He1KdKM
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>>61892929
try to step up to working in 32 bar chunks

ive been doing this recently and i think it is better than 16 because with 16 its still to easy for me to get stuck in a shitty loop
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just copped these today!
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>>61892976
damn, so you actually bought it haha
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>>61892976
how much was the drum machine?
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>>61892642
The pasta says "unless asked", which he was. Go play internet hall monitor somewhere else
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>>61892976
>buying a reface
You must have money to burn
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>>61892966
ill keep it in mind to try to work in bigger blocks than 16s to reduce monotony
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>>61893038
sure did

>>61893188
$500
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TR8?adpos=1o1&creative=55273875961&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CLjoj76sucoCFQ9afgodPi8B-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUD0visU6AE

>>61893229
>a reface
so far I like the organ a lot more
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>>61893454
word, I'm not a gearhead but I always hear to buy stuff used
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>>61893454
>buying $800 worth of refaces
So you definitely have money to burn then
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>>61892807
yeah the vid really is eye opening on the theory behind mixing low frequencies, thanks anon
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>>61893454
Noice. I liked the combo organ the most, gonna pick it up eventually to replace my current combo organ.

I really liked the CP as well, but I'd feel like it isn't that worth it for me, considering I have a CP-70 and that's the most unique thing about it.
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>>61891734
>but personally i advocate using samples (or bouncing your midi to audio) because its also easier to warp the sound to whats in your head.
Care to develop a bit on that? I always keep every instances of the synths I use. I mean - for everything thats not drums, if the sound isn't what you want from the get go, how do you warp it afterward to match what's in your head?
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>>61893895
chopping, compiling, reversing, tempo changing and other forms of resampling.
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Logic pro update was earlier and also new Music memos app
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>>61893811
np mane, i recommend the channel in general, its updated every week, and there is really great advices in "into the lairs" + interviews with top mixing engineers / producers.
>>61893895
honestly I don't believe its easier, if it's a vst then you just try to match to whatever is in your hear through that VST not through editing an already comped waveform (that's my opinion).
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>>61894059
also garageband added a session view just like ableton.
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>>61893604
yeah couldn't find any in my area these things are new-ish

>>61893688
not anymore!

>>61893836
yeah the organ is my favorite, the hammond sound is great. I got the CP because I needed a digital piano that was mobile and it does have some cool effects. Would definitely recommend the combo organ
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>>61894082

Right forgot about that, ios version also got an update.
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hey, i'd like to share a great example of what I meant before with the "sidechaining" - here it is explained by an actual pro:

https://youtu.be/Dtj7He1KdKM?t=1547
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Anyone mandem for mac cracked albeton 9.5

I just got a download from Kickass and updated my ableton, but it doesnt have the new synths or the 'Link' option, whats up with THAT
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>>61895820
link is coming in 9.6 update

it sucks for people who crack they just get 9.5 and then they have to wait for 9.6 for link

i just ended up buying the software eventually after v8
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>>61895820
also for the new synths they are in a pack called max4live essentials

imo they are not that good really
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https://clyp.it/qvagicyl

I've been working on a remix/remake/thing of #1 by Animal Collective. What does /prod/ think?
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so can i buy a midi keyboard for like 100 dollars or is everything just SHIT
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>>61896715

Yeah the korg microkey is perfectly usable, the 37 key model is nice and doesn't take up much space

You might want to buy a longer USB cable for it though unless you have a USB hub on your desk
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>>61896779
woah looks good. and its only 88 dollars. looks simple enough for a retard like me and really effective. thanks
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>>61896908

They aren't quite full sized keys and they're not weighted or anything like a real piano. But it's nice once you get used to it
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>>61896329
When I first played it I was gonna say that sounds like that one abco song then I read th title lol

Pretty cool although the vocals don't really have the same style
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https://clyp.it/s5lie0zb

Here's some random ass chill shit with me fucking around on bass.The bass is clipping because I recorded it with the gain structure fucked, but for now, I'm too lazy to pull everything out and rerecord it. Thoughts?
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Any good semi or weighted midi keyboards under $100 with more than 25 keys?
I can't do anything on two octaves, and I hate mini keys.
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>>61897328
I'm in the market for this as well. Also, PSA: stay away from Alesis v25 because the keys are super stiff.
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>>61897322
intro sucks
rest is p good senpai

>>61897328
no
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>>61896715
I wouldn't spend over 130, anything beyond that you are just paying for crappy features on an already cheap keybed.

full blown hardware synthesizer tend to have better keybeds than midi controllers because it makes sense for manufactures to spend more money on the keybeds in them...it adds greater value to the already large pricetag. So you might want to consider buying an older used synth to use as a midi controller. That will also give you an additional sound source.
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>>61897394
Yeah I can see that. The intro is kinda placeholder for now. <3
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>>61889572

kick mono

snare could be mono or panned a little right or left

all toms but floor tom could be panned left to right or right to left

floor tom could be panned a little right or left

cymbals and misc should be panned far right or far left to leave middle space for main drums

hi hat should be panned slightly left or right or mono

Also if you're working with live drums that have overhead mics you would want to pan them hard left and hard right

Drum mixing varies a lot depending on the genre and style and how much you want the drums to be the main focus
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/12dTXV1YRazBpHYgT6T7s_6krCOUdu4gKLnFMQRaiUrY/edit

here's a good document that's pretty short and explains 1st-5th species counter point. Really good stuff in here.
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>>61889786

Mixing down for mono helps with AM radio play and also when listening to on a phone's speaker
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46w99bZ3W_M

so what do you guys think about this
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Is the 2020 good for recording guitar and vocals and random stuff like tanboruine, eggs, claps and snaps?
I've heard that a lot of YouTubers use it, so I'm guessing it's good for voice.

Also, is there a difference in sound quality between the XLR version and the USB version?
My external sound card has XLR.

Also, how does it handle noises like computer fans? I know how to remove voise from audio.
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any good videos about mono cadences?
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>>61891734

>raising the master track volume
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>>61897560
>voise
Noise*
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>>61897555
>TEDx
All you need to know
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is sampling from youtube a bad idea?
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>>61897575
you realise that says -1 ye?
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>>61897853
imo yes because it is lower quality
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>>61897888
>lowering the master track volume
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http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Jul03/articles/fourtet.asp

I really liked this
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>>61897976
you linking to viruses again, bro?
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>>61897927
i'm not that guy but what about if you want to sample voices from interviews?
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>>61897853
>>61898069
It's still bad, it's all bad, but really the only people who will be able to tell will be audiophiles, don't sweat it too much
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>>61897930
i saw some people in the know doing it to allow for more headroom in their mix
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>>61898069
It's fine to sample YouTube, only the end product matters
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>>61898121
I don't know what I'm doing, but that doesn't seem like it makes sense.
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>>61898069
interviews are fine low quality imo
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https://clyp.it/u2nixqxp

How does this sound?
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>>61898069

Depends

You could mix it so it's mostly mids and it could sound cool if done right
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https://clyp.it/vhz1fsac
feedback please?
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>>61898069
sampling voices from youtube is ok probably

i was assuming you meant shit like kick drums or other one shots

if it is bad sounding alone you can probably fix it up so its unnoticable with speech samples by layering like a pad or something like eq and other processing
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https://clyp.it/be0fw033

How is the drum mixing on this, or just generally the mixing
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>>61898154
it would effect the rendered audio file im pretty sure? especially if you're making noises for other songs or resampling? to a certain extent quieter is "always better" because you will never have to take away from the noise. i cant really justify why its done but i was told to do it lol

>>61897853
youtube is a great source for samples! often just go on a video binge looking for a snippet to sample and find myself down a rabbithole of jazz and funk!

i want to spit some bars over this beat im making but everytime i record my shit (i have a Yeti Blue; i dont really know how good it is relatively) it sounds bad.

is it gunna be the reverb of the room im in? could anyone drop any hints on cleaning up rap vocals?

https://clyp.it/bprbbo5y
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https://clyp.it/n2l2oqds

feedback me

>>61898437
moonman? is that you?

>>61898290
what do you think you're doing?
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>>61898437
LOL

omg that is fucking hilarious 10/10

it took me far too long to clock what was being said, sounds good except the piano sounds a little off to me

>>61898479
everything is way too loud except the drums which are way too quiet. the bleep blooping is dominating heavily the whole mix
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>>61898437
it's always a great time to walk in front of a bus
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>>61898290
like it shouldn't be hard panned. the sample is pretty grating too. what even is it?
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I'm jealous of people who can write music using only virtual instruments and synths. I'm not ashamed of sampling as much as I do, but I really envy people who can write every chord progression and melody in their tracks (edm guys, hip hop trap producers, pop producers in general)
I know, I know, I'm a pleb with shit taste.
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>>61898843
learn music theory senpai
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>>61898843
this came out recently for people who can't play chords, but it made a bunch of people lose their shit last time i brought it up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CGHNJpHndE
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What do you guys think?
https://clyp.it/22zksge3
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>>61898908
I don't know if I am understanding this equipment right, but you'd still need to know how to make a chord progression, and honestly just pressing a single button instead of just playing the right scale degrees for each chord doesn't help you make better sounding music.
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>>61898154

If a DAW is using floating-point calculations throughout when summing channels to the mix output there's less need to consider overdriving the mix bus - so you can keep your channel faders higher and pull down the master fader instead to allow for transients.

This is counter-intuitive if you think of analogue summing, where having all of your channels peaking at 0db would soon drive the mix bus into distortion before the signal even reaches the master faders.

The advantage of using this technique in the digital domain (where your DAW and plugins allow) is - as mentioned - headroom at the master section, but also it allows for easier metering on each channel, since the meters will be deflecting more and small level changes are more easily noticeable.
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>>61898908
the 2.0 update for Maschine also has built-in chords and harmonies and stuff, I'm still on 1.8 but that would make things so much easier, even though I kind of think it's cheating.
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>>61898991
>I kind of think it's cheating
is using your oven instead of building a fire "cheating"?
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>>61899038
That's not a good analogy
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>>61899237
it is a great analogy desu
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>>61898991
cubase lets you draw chords in piano roll and it has a chord assistant with interactive circle of fiths its great for inspiration if you get stuck imo
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https://clyp.it/b3gonayx
is this worth finishing?
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Last thread some anon posted a new modular environment in Pure Data.

Now, we have a hardware synth that runs Pure Data.

http://www.critterandguitari.com/products/organelle
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>>61899627
this looks cool and sound decent but im a poorfag so i wont buy it

i really like the wooden buttons though
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>>61890365
>>61890393
D Dorian you plebians.
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>>61899681
jej
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>>61899681
Phrygian is what i like
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>>61899680
Pure Data is free though; and they have the patches that it ships with on the website. You might need to change the code around to get it all to work though.
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>>61899681
>>61890393
>>61890365
>>61899728

A Aeolian
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>>61899680

I'm willing to bet that is some sort of Raspberry Pi implementation, so you could quite easily build your own and buy buttons from etsy.
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>>61899734
i use max :^)
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>>61899560
i think abletons "Scale" midi effect will tell you when you're playing in and out of scale, although i dont use it and dont really know how...

>>61899622
i think the intro is absolutely whack desu

the first bass to come in is very conflicting with the drums imo, the drums themselves sound pretty nice although too quiet, also the hat is quite piercing; i would suggest cutting a little more of the highs from them.

the lfo'd instance of the bassline that comes into the second "verse" sounded much better, the first bassline was very static and boring imo

the arp synthy noise in the final few bars sounded nice.

desu the general vibe of the song is just not for my taste


https://clyp.it/521e34mz

could i get some feedback on this beat ive been working on the past few hours?
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>>61899875
what scale does is it forces any note you play in midi to conform to the scale you have chosen and you pick the root note with that knob but i dont really use it that much

i prefer to just write the scale in piano roll i want to use and fold it because it just works
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>>61899875
sounds good. a little bit barren, i was waiting for some kick ass high hats to start playing
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>>61899934
oh i see! thats pretty fucking useful, but i couldnt see myself getting used to it because i love googling keys and scales and building my own understanding of what sounds good!

>>61899956
yeah totally missing some cymbals but i have a massive habit of overfilling my tracks so that they just cant be used as instrumentals to spit over and i end up having to strip my tracks back so they dont conflict with my voice.
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>>61898908
>>61898843
>what is cthulhu
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>>61899782
you might not be wrong
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>>61900090
ableton also has a chord midi efect but i hate it the scale effect is way better i think
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frustrated with my shittiness tbqh
https://clyp.it/4hg0qxyg
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>>61900091
I have cthulhu, still think the chordbot is cool. It seems more flexible/faster. Plus cthulhu doesn't have the thing to open up the chord or scroll through inversion
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>>61900103

Good to see that. It was the plain-looking project box that made me suspect it - that with the etsy buttons, little screen and extension cables you'd still easily be under 100 bucks for the whole thing.
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Why is it that all DAWs are garbage and don't support microtonal piano rolls?
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>>61900697

why does it bother you so much to post it 2 times in a row
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What's the best Phaser VST out there?
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>>61900744
i only use stock plugins i only have a few 3rd party effect plugins i got free like soundtoys and i think those are good quality but i havent tried their phaser
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>>61900091
If I were to use cthulu or that chordbot thing, I wouldn't really be writing the music myself .. that's like putting a puzzle together and saying you drew a picture
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>>61900744

Audio Damage Phase Two is nice, but the Kjaerhus Audio Classic Series is free - it's a collection of plugins and you get a nice thru-zero flanger with it too:

http://www.freemusiciansresource.com/VST-detail/kjaerhus-audio-classic-series-fx-vst-bundle/
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>>61900815
i dont really think its the same

iive never used those products but if youre picking the chord progression whats the different than drawing the chords in and making the same progression
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>>61900815
Yiu still need to know which chords to play next and imo that's easier to do note by note
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>>61900896

The argument kinda reminds me of the manual beat-matching vs sync argument that DJs waste their lives doing - with the auto chord thing some people enjoy playing the chords themselves and some only care about what comes out of the speakers, neither argument is more valid because both arguments are differently-motivated.
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>>61900985
i dont really think it matters really who cares as long as it doesnt suck
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>>61901016

Totally agree.
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>>61892976
How is the TR-8

Been enjoying the System 1 myself for a while now and been considering copping some more of the Aira system gear.
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tfw one of your track's mix sounds way better than the other tracks from the same time frame
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>>61889107
bump

added hats to my shit and now it sounds badboi

https://clyp.it/e2ln12hq

needs a sample clip, some vocal stab or something - any ideas ?
>>
favorite pitch shifting plugin?
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>>61901104
It's great, fun to use anf sounds really nice. although the lights are too bright and the color scheme is pretty whatever but you can change both those things in the settings apparently
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>>61899560
>>61898991

You could also just learn them yourself it takes like a day at most
>>
so i've had ableton for about a week. this is the first time i've played with session view and tried to export something.

whatever

fuck you

>https://clyp.it/pnd1piar
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>>61902287
Quik quak pitch wheel
>>61900744
Plug and mix classic phaser, korg mde-x
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>>61902750
>You could also just learn them yourself it takes like a day at most

i do know my chords its just a feature in cubase
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>>61902814
does this chord learning debate ever go away?
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>>61903153
i dont even know what youre talking about
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>>61903199

Do you know what a debate is?
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>>61903199
basically, anons get mad when plebians use forms of chords without a theoretical understanding of their context
>>
Surely you guys know James Blake, right?
I've been trying to get a similar synth sound to Unluck/Wilhelm Scream/I never learnt to share but i just can't get rid of the fuzz and hiss from saw waves. It sounds like a mix of Square and Saw but i just can't get close to it, and the harder i try the worse it gets.
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>>61903550
what part of unluck are you talking about?
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>>61903577
Starting at 0:00
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>>61902794
Really digging the bass. Everything else, not so much. Maybe replace them with other instruments.
>>
How do I make dank drum beats?

Any resources on how to properly construct drum beats?
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>>61904004

Make them louder and lower
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>>61903689
thanks

the bass was made using the first slice from Drum loop 01_80 from the vinyl classics pack

for a week in ableton and an hour making that track, my outlook is positive.
>>
so you buy studio monitors because you get sick of wearing headphones for mixing, right?
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>>61903550
A-anyone?
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>>61904562
is this bait
>>
>>61904588
no :^(
>>
best Wah VST in the game?

something clean though, not something that emulates a pedal and adds fuzz or distortion
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>>61904601
guitar rig by NI?
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>>61898925
>https://clyp.it/22zksge3
Kinda cool but too noisy.

Lose all the fuck's and other shit and just go for a chill deeeeeep basssy ambient feels and it'll be cool.
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>>61899622
>https://clyp.it/b3gonayx

It's pretty decent one it's actually into it but I agree with the other dudes comment, intro is shit and start the drums before the bass. Love dat LFO that comes in, gud shit m8. Also at the end where it cuts off into a shitty analogue sounding organ type shit, lose that aswell and just make it go into the main pattern again but louder + harder, maybe add more drive/reverb or some shit.
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>>61898908
here we go again
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>>61899875
>https://clyp.it/521e34mz
phat bass, needs more instrumentation and someone rappin.
>>
https://clyp.it/420xs3iy

tell me wat u think mu
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>>61905631
clap is tiny
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>>61905631
Something about that melody is off. Try some chord variations.

Seriously lacking on the low end.

Drum samples sound like shit.

Otherwise passable trap.
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>>61905631
are these fuking snare rolls ROFL, what the fuvk is wrong with the drums, youre making hiphop drums are supposed to crush, this fucking sucks
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>>61903546
yeah, who ever makes music without understanding the theory?
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>>61906568

quite a lot of people i would say, professionally too.
>>
I would love some feedback too

https://soundcloud.com/alex-davis-1/drums-and-noise
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>>61897328
Korg microkey
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>>61906959
>small keys
Thank you for the recommendation, but no thank you.
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>>61905796

Why you gotta be snarky and rude? I bet your music isn't very good either.
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>>61897492
Great. This dude's a composer who writes incredibly in-depth on form, harmony, orchestration and counterpoint. This is the kind of practical knowledge and principles you can read and immediately apply to your own music. Enjoy.

http://alanbelkinmusic.com/site/en/index.php/on-the-art-of-composition/
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>>61907473
Thanks for the link
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>>61907136
>thinking small keys are a problem
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>>61904585
put a lowpass filter onto the synth family
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>>61903550
Does James Blake use a P8? The square waves on the P8 are very sharp, they're almost like saws. This is just one 25 PW wave filtered with 4pole mode.

https://clyp.it/03q52dve
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>>61903550

Have you heard of low-pass filters :)
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https://clyp.it/0giaylmg
feedback please ( ͡° ᴥ ͡°)
>trap wip
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>Built in chords
as bad as presets.

Write your own damn chord progressions, its fun as fuck once you get the hang of it.
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>>61908285
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>>61908319
You have bean visited by based anon of counterpoint, reply Fux Gradus to this post or you will lose your penis
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>>61907945
to be fair he could have been using a 12db filter
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>>61907757
I've used small keys in the past and I can't get used to them.
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>>61889572
in jazz yes
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>>61908285
>>61908319
Any good videos teaching this?
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>>61908603
FUX GRADUS
U
X

G
R
A
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U
S
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>>61908319
What's chord progression?
Or did you just come up with it right now?
I'm thinking of maybe using it.
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>>61908732
>What's chord progression?
What's this chord progression?*
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Update on the NestHQ thing: apparently it's coming out today and I'm too excited to function.

Things are looking up /prod/!
>>
Any good programs for Linux? Are Ardour or LMMS any good?
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>>61908795

Good for you m8
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>>61908285
>as bad as presets.
so... not bad?
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>>61909361
I think he means "bad = extremely limiting if you have no idea how they work and just slap them together"
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>>61909593
i still don't see how it's limiting in any way. not only do i not know chord theory, but i'm not good enough at playing chords to play progressions smoothly so this would make it much faster.

not everyone wants to draw chords manually in the piano roll
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>>61910010
>not everyone wants to draw chords manually in the piano roll.

So you're gonna buy equipment to save you like 5 seconds at most? Besides, it's not all about chords, it's also about voicings and how you structure those chords within the piano roll, with keytracking too. You're not gonna get that from the Chordbot.
>>
https://clyp.it/llsplfgu

Not exactly beats, but I still need feedback.
>>
convince me to not buy the minilogue @ $500
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>>61910714
If you do you'll get rectal cancer.
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>>61910714

Everything I've paid more than $99 for I've regretted
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