/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

So anything interesting been released ahead of NAMM?

So when i look up Fender Strats or Teles on guitar center, theres so many different kinds to choose from. How do i know which ones are the real deal?

>>61880414
The one with the features that you like

>>61880429
Im talking about all the words like
>Deluxe
>Special
>Standard
>Classic
>Modern

>>61880510
different series with different features :^)

Are there any essential effect pedals you need for Bass?

>>61880570
What kind of music?

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>>61880414
the ones folded over a thousand times

Why not just call it Guitar General

This is like making a Sax and Bari Sax General thread

>>61880590
Indie Rock

>>61880618
Because you're a pleb if you can't play both

>>61880622
In that case.. No. Go dry and turn the treble up.

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daily reminder that Randy Jackson played bass for Roger Waters on Amused to Death

https://youtu.be/e4TMbtgmrH0

banjo player here but my question applies to guitars too

I have a normal scale banjo and a short scale (parlor size) banjo, its about 6 inches shorter than the standard length instrument. I'm using the same gauge strings on both instruments. Do I need to tune the shorter instrument higher proportional to its length in order for the intonation to be correct?
When i tune both banjos in G (traditional bluegrass tuning) the strings on the short banjo seems so loose it isn't much fun to play, so tension is definitely affected if they are tuned to the same tones
Should I be using different strings for shorter scale instruments? or tuning it higher? or anything of that nature? I'm kind of a noob when it comes to string instruments so pardon me if this is blatantly obvious to you guitarists

>>61880618
Because we'd inevitably have to put up with a drop kick bass player have a tantrum because he thinks we're excluding it.

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>>61880760
>drop kick
this is my favorite aussie rhyming slang word of all i think

Best archtop (electric or acoustic) under $500 GO.

>>61880787
Used Ibanez afj91

>>61880787
No

>>61880744
Shorter scale needs higher tension of course. Use thinner strings or else you might find it difficult to play

>>61880640
I think his point was that guitars and bass guitars are both included under the umbrella term "guitar" and therefore need not be specifically mentioned

I can say however that playstyle differences between six string guitar and bass guitar are tremendous, and no six string player should just assume they can also play bass because it shares the same string tuning with fewer strings. Bass lines as used in music are very different than the low notes of the guitar parts.

>>61880744
Shorter scale length will result in less tension in the same tuning. Tuning higher or using thicker strings will alleviate the problem. Other things tonally are affected as well, but that's the jist of it. Being six inches shorter I'd be tuning up.

The string tension calculator in the OP can be a rough guide if you know the exact scale length of your instruments. Scale length is why I use 13-62 on my Les Paul, and 12-60 on my Ibanez in the same tuning.

>>61880787
ur mom

>>61880787
>archtop
>under $500
top kek

>>61880998
Just want one to tide me over before I get a real nice one, sick of playing jazz on a mexican strat.

>>61881014
i guess what >>61880816 said then. it won't sound good acoustically though

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>>61880414
GC employee here, the only squire worth a shit is the classic vibe. If you get an actual fender you can do so without breaking 1,000. focus on what woods/pickups you want.

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>>61881308
>GC employee here

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>>61881308
How much does GC pay you to talk about the woods?

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Earthquakers are cool.

>>61881308
thats exactly the type of shit I expect to hear from a GC employee.

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Does anyone have any real complaints about the Fender hammer saddles?

>>61881434
no, they are fine

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>>61881355
>>61881327
>>61881425
I'm glad you're all so tickled, I work in audio so they don't pay me anything to talk about woods. They pay me to sell launchpads to confused parents and 12 year olds.

>>61881448
>They pay me to sell launchpads to confused parents and 12 year olds.
well at least you know your place

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>>61881460
benefits, discounts, and commission make it worth my while. As far as retail goes its the lesser evil.

>>61881472
i just feel like you have to take a test and grade under a certain bar to work at guitar center

>>61881486
i figured they were all just supposed to act dumb

>>61881486
That's pretty fair, 90% of the time when I call another store to have something done I have to walk them through the process like a child.

>>61881508
its probably in the contract.

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>>61881520
>>61881508
>>61881486
Seem a bit salty, compared to the rest of the world of retail it could be so much worst. I get paid to essentially dick around with gear for a good 30-40% of my day. And when it is busy I'm getting commission for selling karaoke systems and PA gear to non English speakers.

>>61881553
yes anon, but your dignity...

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>>61881560
Short of running your own business regular 9-5 jobs will do that to you

>>61881553
I'm mostly just bitter that GC has run almost every other small time music outfit out of town. If people want musical instruments, they go to guitar center, unfortunately.
They've even driven great manufacturers into the ground by demanding high production and low prices if they want to sell at GC, which is the only game in most towns.

sure its ok if what you want is mass produced crap like launchpads and boss effects pedals. But good instruments are made in small numbers by hand and cost what they're worth.

But seriously the staff acts like retards. They will up-sell anything in the store you make any hint at possibly being interested in. I once bought bass strings at GC not knowing exactly what I wanted or needed and the staff member literally said "these are the best strings in the house, I use them personally" to every box i pointed at. like I somehow forgot the conversation we'd been having.

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>>61881615
>that glorious feel when freelance

>>61880570
Compressor, maybe a fuzz/OD

>>61881634
This is the unfortunate truth, there's only a few places still open in my area. I believe it, some of the salesmen I work with are the worst kind people.

>>61881014
Do you live in MX comrade?
You could get a good axe off Amazon or Ebay
for the low.
>>61881308
I really don't like squires. I feel like they're entry level guitars, like Kenneth or most Peavey guitars. they look smooth though

>>61880570
no

>>61881634
you know whats really tight tho?
Sam Ash.
they let me play with everything, even 5000k
keyboards, electric drum sets and fucking gibsons.
GC is ok, but they tend to breathe down your neck and hike up the prices like mad.
Music shops still have hope in small towns at least.

>>61881877
>>5k
ok time to stop posting for today

>>61880829
Uh, you need thicker strings for a shorter scale m8

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>>61881877
hike up prices? GC price matches and has a 45 day price guarantee. As in you have 45 days to find a lower price to retroactively get money back.

>>61881877
yeah I've been to a Sam Ash and it was legit.
I played their electric drums and their 5k keyboards, I even bought one of those keyboards. Their salespeople know about their instruments too, and they have weekly sessions in store after hours. I moved a long way away from any Sam Ash and I do miss it

compared to Sam Ash, GC is pretty fucking far from OK

that being said Sam Ash is definitely not a small music outfit, and is doing the same damage to small time outfits and instrument manufactures that GC is, but that may just be an unavoidable result of economics of scale.

>>61882074
thanks for the third opinion bro
short banjo owner here and that reply about thinner strings was highly suspect imho.

>>61881434
no. I just use the double saddles because i've wired my tele as a broadcaster and im too broke to bother replacing the saddles.

Should I get a PJ or a PH version of my desired Bass? I like the sound of a precision bass, but I obviously want a bridge pickup for versatility and because why the hell not.

>>61883030
If possible play both and get whichever sounds better

>trying to learn to actually use my little finger while playing

carving mt. rushmoore with my dick is probably an easier task

>>61884549
Are you practicing using warm-ups or songs? I found it easier to Learn with warm-ups.

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Just replaced the stock pickups in a 2006 Gibson Flying V that I got in a trade with Duncan JB in bridge and 59 in the neck. Did I do good? I think it sounds way better, but do people hate that just as much as sticking EMGs in a Gibson?

>>61884887
Nah bro, it's good.
I know a guy who put Nazgul/Sentient into his LP Custom. He actually plays for a living.

How are you liking them? They are popular for a reason.

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Should I get a Jackson DK2 or a Charvel San Dimas?

I'm leaning towards the Jackson for slightly better spec, but I love the finish and maple board of the Charvel, also its oldschool-ness.

Thoughts?

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>>61884887
Are you fucking meme.
No one would do that.
Custom Shop maybe but not those.
Put them back in pleb.
Learn how to use that 500T.
You just removed a pickup that is famous the world over for an off the shelf.
Are you mad?

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Whoa. I think it's going for 1300 right now, should I get it and kill my neighbors with it?
It can be used as one 1400 watt amp or two 700 watt amps.

>>61881634
I've got two local shops near me and they're great. Guitar Center has three stores each a stone's throw away from both and the small shops I typically go to haven't considered leaving.

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>>61885052
>Jackson DK2
Every time.

>>61885089
Do it.

>>61885014
Aren't those 7 string pups?

>>61885184
They have six string versions as well.

>>61885184
They make the in 6,7,and 8 string configs.

>>61884887
>JB
My favourite pickup is based off that so I approve. That would've had a 500T/496R stock wouldn't it? 500T are nice pickups, if a bit noisy.

>sticking EMGs in a Gibson
I use 85/85 live. The compression helps my playing (bad hand) and 85s have A5 rails. Not huge on 81s though.

>>61885184
Not him but they were originally yes. They make 6 string versions now.

>>61885163
>7-string
>trans black finish (seriously I am fucking sick of greyscale guitars)
>No trem
>Actives

Thanks for sharing your opinion, but we are not on the same page at all taste-wise.

Anyone else?

>>61885266
What's wrong with actives?

>>61885360
Just not my taste, just being an opinionated asshole desu.

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so, quick review and first impression on this bass I just received

model is Schecter Diamond P Plus, sunburst with maple neck version (there's a black gloss/rosewood one also)

paid 500 USD for it, used, which amounted to roughly 850 CAD with conversion and customs fees. I would have paid 400 bucks more for it if I ordered it new. I consider myself lucky because it's in mint condition and 99% like new. only needs a minor setup.

first things first, this motherfucker is long for a 34" scale. from bottom of body to top of headstock this thing is a centimeter longer than my 35" Skyline 55-02. might not fit in some gig bags. I have no fender to directly compare it to but I'm pretty sure it's longer than those.

one of the knobs (the pickup selector one) is plastic, whereas the other 3 are metal. the diamond brushed pattern on them is not the same, also. I don't know if the model is made like that or if it was swapped out by the previous owner.

there are zero visible flaws on this thing. great construction quality for a korean bass. look and feel is equivalent to a MiA Fender and I am 100% serious. I can't tell you how the neck holds up until I've used it for a few weeks though.

the machine heads are the most sensitive ones I've ever used. all 4 respond exactly the same and have no leap spots though so that's cool.

tone is good but not 100% what I wanted out of it. the SMB-4D humbucker is punchy as hell and a bit metallic sounding due to being closer to the bridge than MM standard. the SPB-3 split coil sounds fuller and more modern than any split coil I've tried. very good, but not much puffy vintage treble to it.

in parallel the pickups give a sweeter, less bright humbucker tone, which I much prefer to the bridge position.

in series it sounds a bit like a passive PJ with both pickups at full volume, plucking somewhere in between. probably my favorite of the 4 states.

the 2 band eq is nice to have but as far as active bass eq's go, it doesn't do much.

>>61885425
overall, I'm positively surprised by this and would recommend the DIamond line of basses to anyone. especially if you can find a used one in good condition. don't blindly buy Schecter though because the Stilettos suck in my opinion.

Who hyped for NAMM here? Anything to watch out for lads?

>>61885550
I didn't buy anything during the sales in hope Ibanez releases some cool new models, or even the new Tosin Abasi sig.
It also might be cool to see the John Petrucci amp from Mesa, although I'm not expecting much from it.
Otherwise there'll be the new strandberg bass.
I think I covered everything in the meme prog range.

If I wanted a SSS guitar with a pickguard, should I get the Fender American Strat or a Carvin Bolt?

The bolt seems so much better in every aspect, price, locking tuners, SS frets, carved heel. Not sure how the pups fare though, but that can be changed easily.

>>61885266
Ok opinionated asshole who posts a trans-burst flame top.

>>61885014
I love them actually. I am a giant fan of the JB in bridge. I did like the original ones more at bedroom volumes, but when playing at small gig volume at practice everything seemed kinda muddish with the gibsons. I had a JB in bridge with my last 3 guitars and end up missing it every time.

Instead of going with the classic jazz pickup in neck I regret not trying the 59 earlier. It's not so overbearingly loud and bassy compared to the jazz so it plays very nice in clean with my Analogman compressor.

>>61885053
Not a meme sorry. The Gibsons just get muddy with the amp+pedals I use when playing loud. I liked it more at bedroom level though, but alas.

>>61885265
It did have the 500T/496R stock. With my rig it actually wasnt too noisy (Fulltone OCD boosted with a EQD Talons in front of a AB165 modded Bassman 100 head), but I do a lot of heavily crunched cordy things. So it just didn't have the articulation I like when playing loud. Sounded great out of my 10 watt Vox at home though. If only there was a way to swap pickups in under 5 minutes so I could have both without buying another guitar.

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>>61885942
>Carvin Bolt
vomit.jpg

>>61886196

Why what's wrong with them. I don't really care about aesthetics at this point.

>>61885052

Imp, Feel over spec. You still get legit Duncan's in the charvel anyway.

>>61884549
do trills with the index and the pinky. it helps.

make sure your curving the pinky and using the finger tip though, don't do that stupid flat-stiff-pinky thing so many people do. try and stop yourself from lifting your pinky away from the fretboard and straightening it out (some people call it the tea-drinking-pinky).

it will become second nature after a while to just use it. it took me a few months of really paying attention to my pinky to get it to work correctly.

so i want to upgrade the saddles on my tele, i have those shitty bent pieces of metal right now and i hate them

what are some good upgrade options?

>>61886244

Nothing's wrong with them if you like the look. they're great guitars

>>61886196
Isn't the routing on fenders pretty much the same anyways ?

>>61886312
Fender steel block saddles.

>>61886342
http://www.fender.com/parts/bodies/usa-stratocaster-body-vintage-bridge---surf-green/0998002757.html

>>61885425
nice dude

are you the guy who couldn't decide which PMM bass to get and posted about it some a while back?

>>61886685
yeah that was me

I gotta say, I don't think it's possible. this thing sounds good but it doesn't sound P or MM. neither did the VM4 when I tried it.

>>61885360
Active pickups only really seem to be popular in the metal community. Especially the ones that thing programmed drums on a release is OK.

>>61886787
A lot of metal players use them because EMGs in particular tend to compress the sound a bit, so it makes live playing easier because you don't have to pick as hard.

>>61886825
Is that the TvL sig? Bit pricy for a MIM tbqh

Can too thick strings cause weirdish buzzing on acoustic guitars?

I get some weird sort of buzzing when i play around the second string, middle of the neck. The strings I use are .012 gauge
Or is it maybe because the bridge, altough i didnt have this problem before

Im new to this

>>61886825
I want a Jazzmaster so bad. And a Les Paul. And a SG. And a White Falcon. My Tele is falling apart, too. I don't know what I'll do when I need a new guitar.

>>61886825
the ultimate shoegaze guitar.

nice one

I started playing guitar not so long ago and know how to play a few chords, where do I go from here? (I don't follow lessons, I just look up stuff on the internet)

>>61887363
Changing gauges can cause fret buzz. Go back to the smaller gauge, or raise the saddle by putting a single piece of paper as a shim under it. It will raise it by .003.

>>61887419
Keep learning chords, and how to construct them in different keys. Then learn about the guitarist's best friend, the minor pentatonic scale. From there learn the blues scale, and then the major scale and the seven modes.

>>61887276
True, although it has AVRI pickups/electronics over the standard MIM JMs. The bridge is also a curiosity, it's a bit nicer than than the standard mustang bridge.


I bought it used. It's very nice though, the neck/fret work is as good as I've ever had.

>>61887678
(also comes with a case, binding, blocks)

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Anyone have experience with a tech 21 bass DI or a behringer clone? Honestly preamp pedals mean to bypass the head's preamp are an enigma to me.

>>61887678
>>61887701
Still, that thing goes for MIA money.

>>61887503
other anon here, but kinda on the same with the one you replied

how do you mean constructing chords in different keys?
i know the basic on what a chord is, root, 3rd, 5th, etc and how basic chord progressions work, I-IV and so on

>>61887827
Right, so, what I mean by chord construction is you should know what defines the quality of a given chord and thus how to build it. Like, what essentially makes a minor chord different from a major chord? When would you use a dominant 7th chord, and what makes that different from a major 7th chord? Then learn how, when, and where to add extensions like 9ths, 11ths, and 13ths.

This will help you get beyond the basic I-IV-V progression and into ii-V-I, which is the building block of jazz and once you can play that shit proficiently you can play with anyone.

But you need to start with the basics of scale and chord construction first.

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Any opinions on a 59' Fender Bassman RI? I might be able to snag one on craigslist for about $750 and it seems like a great amp, just don't know if it will take nicely to a pedalboard.

>>61887798
MIA JMs are a grand more
($2400 vs $1300)

>>61888056
it's old and costs a bunch

What's the easiest way to split my signal to 2 different amps at the same time?

Am I gonna have to buy a $50 ABY box or is there another way?

>>61887949
cool, thanks for the info

ill hope i get a bit more into the theory part as soon as i finish some exams this month

the books are in the OP are an ok starting point, no?

>>61888299
Build your own ABY pedal

>>61888353
I haven't read all of them, but Govan's "Creative Guitar - Vol. 1" has a pretty good theory primer in the beginning. The book that helped me a lot theory-wise was Mel Bay's "Getting Into Jazz Fusion Guitar". There's a great explanation of scales and modes in the beginning. Otherwise, buy a copy of "The Real Book" and just learn to play some of the chords in there. That's basically how I learned all my 7th chords and progressions.

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>tfw one flaw ruins the whole fucking thing

Why the hell did Charvel start making these with recessed Floyds?

Is it OK if I don't bridge for single string picking? If I force myself to relearn that would it be beneficial to me? I'm a beginner been playing less than one year.

>>61888268
Its a reissue, not a vintage.

>>61881434
I have those on my partscaster and they're fine. I do, however, prefer the compensated brass ones. I just happened to have the hammer bridge kicking around so I threw it on there.

>>61880510
Deluxe - ash body, best finish, noise canceling pickups. Nice guitar but probably not worth the money unless u get a deal.
Special- cheaper finish, different pickups and hardware from the Am. std. Good alternative.
Standard- your regular everyday start. Best place to start.
Classic- usually a re-issue but without the name or resale value. Body contour may be sharper, usually custom shop pickups and neck profile may be period correct. Just get a standard and buy the CS pickups separately.
Modern- no idea.

>>61888056
That's a killer price for a killer amp. Dunno about the pedal stuff though.

Anybody have links/info on guitar setups and basic luthier type stuff?

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>>61888353
for scales, this is most comprehensive book.

for chords, Chord Master has a section devoted to genres (jazz, funk, rock, etc) and is by far the best chord book I've read. its breakdown of theory is easy to understand and well-articulated

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>>61884549
This is how I learned to use my pinky.

>>61888799
I don't have good links but Dave's world of fun stuff is a nice start. He has good tools but there's a couple videos on how to rough it.

>>61888975
you're really chomping at the bit to post that huh

>>61888799
download these

http://www.amazon.com/Make-Your-Electric-Guitar-Great/dp/0879309989

http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Player-Repair-Guide-3rd/dp/0879309210

>>61888978
Thanks I'll check it out

>>61887363
>>61887461
Have it professionally set up imo. Paper? Come on.

>>61888426
I don't want to learn specific genres of playing, but I like how Fusion players play and improvise. Would it still be worth checking out that book? I don't want to lock my playing to Jazz Fusion, basically.

Not that guy, by the way.

>>61888558
Recessed Floyds are better man. And besides, you can unrecess (just put something in that blocks it from going down) a recessed floyd, but you can't do the opposite.

>>61889103
I don't think you should recommend a professional setup. There's nothing special a pro can do that anyone can't do with enough patience. In my opinion anything that doesn't qualify as repair should be done at home.

>>61889251
You have people here who don't know how to change strings remember?

>>61889103
It's a good way to find out if it needs it . It may need a fret leveling. So yeah, paper, smart ass. Otherwise he'd have to replace the saddle with a taller one. It makes a decent shim in the meantime. I was waiting for him to reply.

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>>61889011
Not really. It's been posted in /gg/ before when we were talking about using your pinky. You're really champing at the bit to make a snarky post, huh? Yeah, the term is champing.

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>>61880414
All depends on what you want. Don't get squier unless its a classic vibe (or a standard if its your first guitar).

>Standard
Is the modern design that comes with the modern neck profile, radius, medium jumbo frets, etc.

>Deluxe
Typically has noiseless pickups(complete shit imo) and, on strats, an extra push-pull knob that lets you get extra pickup configs. Often has gold hardware and special finishes.

>Special
Means just about anything. If you are referring to American Specials, they have Texas Special pickups (not good to my ears), oversized 70's headstock, jumbo frets, and the tone knob functions differently

>Classic
Usually some combination of vintage specs with some modern adjustments, but sometimes just a re-issue kind of guitar. Usually has vintage frets, vintage radius, etc. 50's will have maple fretboards, 60's will have rosewood usually, stuff like that. Often has pickups that are "vintage voiced".

>Modern
The modern designs with more modern improvements and non-traditional pickup configurations.

>>61886825
>Trem-bar attached while in a case
autism

>>61879918
>Post gear

My old setup. 92 MiM I bought from a hippie when I was 15. First guitar. Swapped pickups and pickguard for stuff I pulled from a pile at my local shop. Perfect beater guitar that has its own sound from the random pickups and being strung lefty. Crate V18 2x12. First tube amp. Got it for $100 and had it for a few years. Had a bassy sound that I was always fighting to brighten up. Also a Yamaha keyboard and old football.

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>>61889251
>There's nothing special a pro can do that anyone can't do with enough patience.


>>61889314

>>61889454
It's called shimming a saddle. But by all means, meme on.

>>61881434
they're not a roller bridge, that's my complaint

>>61885053
this is the kind of shitposting that happens when your dad brainwashes you into thinking Gibson is the best ever

>>61889791
>There's nothing special a pro can do that anyone can't do with enough patience.
Think about that. It's an absurd statement.

>>61889883
Why would you need a roller bridge if there's no trem?

>>61889454
there isn't

I just had an argument with this fucking loser on another site about this, there is literally nothing a setup from a shop entails that you can't get with some reading, watching, and spending about $100 at Stewmac

>>61889922
Because your string is still pulling no matter what bridge you're on, they're just flat better for keeping tune and intonation if you play hard

Just got a 6 string bass the other day, what are some good funky tabs and riffs?

>>61889990
Keep telling yourself that. I'll just keep fixing guitars and amps when people like you fuck them up.

>>61890053
>people like you
People who know how to do absolutely everything a "professional" can?

>>61890049
Thundercat

>>61889383
> Crate amp
Oh boy. I had a Crate SS amp, it was awful. And I mean berhinger-level awful. I hope for your sake that their tube models are better.

>>61890049
if you can find a tab for T Plays it Cool anywhere it's fantastic with a bit of phaser and trem, even if you don't have a fretless

any of you guys make your own pedals?

Kind of want to give it a shot but I have no idea where to even start, any recommendations?

>>61890049
>6 string bass
Get ready from an endless flow of butthurt bass player and arguments from F#BEAD corvette dude

>>61890053
I don't get it man. When did you transform from diy to professional? hint: it's when you started getting paid. Anyone can fix their guitar because anyone can learn. What makes me say it doesn't take a professional is that it doesn't take long enough to learn and do that it justifies outsourcing the labor. Just like a professional tailor, there's no reason other than laziness to not do it yourself.

>>61890156
I've done BYOC stuff before to save $, but pedal parts are pretty much all chinese now because there isn't a reason for them not to be and as a result BYOC through a company that offers it ends up being cheaper than ordering the parts yourself.

The downside is if you want stuff like those Devi Ever joystick pedals, you probably won't be able to find stuff like it.

>rip out active electronics
>replace with passive

is it that simple or would you have to change the pots and junk too?

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>>61890072
Post your work. Heres a before shot of a fucked up 56 duojet I did. It had a couple of really bad neck resets over the years. I chem stripped the red housepaint off the top and left the rest of the finish alone.

>>61890079
>>61890125

Thanks guys, also Thundercat is a beast!

>>61890168
They'll get over it. It's not the first time I let someone on 4chan down.

>>61884887
I just put a 59 in my tele

I fucking love it

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>>61890272
Had to make a new neck tenon

>>61890248
Active pots usually have a different value compared to passives, whether it is single or humbucking.
Luckily, pots are cheap as hell.

>>61890248
it depends, sorry to say. It might require new pots for the best performance but it will get the job done either way. Or the pots might be perfect.

>>61889990
I get what you're saying but pros have the experience and the equipment. You might learn to setup your guitar by yourself eventually, but if you're fiddling with shit you don't know, you could end up trashing an expensive instrument in the process.

whoever said building effects pedals is cheaper than buying premade pedals is a moron. i can buy pedals used for a fraction of the cost of making one.

>>61890329
how do you think they got the experience exactly?

>>61890334
Not only did nobody say that, nobody is talking about USED pedals. Are you a mongoloid? I think you're a mongoloid.

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>>61890308
There was a big bolt holding the neck on and a bunch of wood filler covering it. Got rid of that shit and plugged it with mahogany. Had to spot refin.

>>61890272
>>61890308
Oh hey luthier dude, did you have any new interesting since that time you repaired the f-hole of someone who tried to fill his hollowbody with a T-shirt ?

>>61890334
That depends on the circuit though, some pedals are really overpriced for what they are.

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>>61890363
Top refinished back to original black and neck reset properly

>>61890416
>that paint

jesus fucking christ what the hell happened

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>>61890410
Doing a 1950s L-50 at the moment.

>>61890447
I dont even want to know. There was a guy around here known for ruining guitars like this. I suspect its his work.

>>61890329
Luckily I'm not an idiot, so I can actually read instructions before I aimlessly guess what a truss rod does. It's that high school education at work I guess. I realize some people don't understand the order of operations there, that you should learn before you try anything rather than try everything to learn, but those people probably can't buy their own groceries either. Sure, you'll make some mistakes, but not enough to outweigh the cost of paying a professional for more than a couple guitars.

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>>61890416
Proper neck angle

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>>61890528
done

>>61890358
By learning from a teacher i assume. If you learn by yourself however, there won't be anybody to fix your fuck-ups before it's too late.

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>>61890334
Fuzz face with fuller mods (input bias, contour). About $40 worth of parts.

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>>61890674

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>>61890360
previous thread
>pay attention to file name

>>61890556
I found that really enjoyable do you have any more that you've done?

>>61888613
Plz respond

>>61890817
your question doesn't make sense to me, please reword it

>>61890272
>red housepaint

>>61890410
>fill his hollowbody with a T-shirt

what the fuck?

>>61885703
>It also might be cool to see the John Petrucci amp from Mesa, although I'm not expecting much from it
Supposedly a full 2C+ reissue (not Mark V mode) with added stuff. I'm looking forward to hearing it since it's the sound I have always liked the most.
Altho I wouldn't expect too much of it. Mesa has been a bit retarded in the marketing dept lately, despite my love for my V: 25.

>>61890556
Thanks for sharing, great work. I enjoy looking at these like >>61890786 does

>>61890869
I dont use my finger as a bridge when playing guitar. I've noticed some people use their pinky or ring finger as a bridge when doing so, and I was wondering if it would be beneficial to relearn it in that manner

>>61890870
some people don't need tonefinishes, they just want a red guitar. Other people need toneshirts.

>>61890935
I think you should know how and be able to do it. You don't have to use it all the time, but it's one of the more useful things to learn.

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>>61890786
>>61890900
I have a few more random pics on my phone. Another of the L-50 here. Lots more on my work comp but im not there atm

>>61890870
You wouldnt believe the shit I've seen. There are a lot of people that think they know what they're doing.

>>61891152
tell me more about the shit youve seen, anon

it sounds interesting
in an incredibly morbid way

There isn't really anywhere to go on /mu/ to talk about music theory or anything like that, so I come to you guitar players for your opinion on an odd time signature I used in a song.
https://totallytubular.bandcamp.com/track/031
Can you guess the time signature?
What happens to the time signature at 1:15? Just posting this for fun, I love listening to and working with odd time.

>>61890410
>that time you repaired the f-hole of someone who tried to fill his hollowbody with a T-shirt
Nigga what.

>>61891273
Are you scratching this out slot by slot? Wouldn't it be easier since it's marked to go at it with an angle grinder?

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>>61891152
Found some headstock repair pics

>>61891273
Fuck yeah contour that shit! Comfy!

>>61891294
Will post something for you in a few when im back at work

>>61891316
>muh time signatures
This isn't djent pseudo-prog general, this is shoegaze faggots general. Should have posted a reverb m8

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>>61891338

>>61891338
>gibson breaking right where everyone else that builds angled headstock guits has a volute

S U R P R I S I N G S T U F F

what a shit company, at least their overpriced high performance models are showing they are willing to change some things i guess

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>>61891359

>>61891345
I make shoegaze in odd time signatures too (;
https://totallytubular.bandcamp.com/track/023

>>61891440
wew lad

>>61891440
It's like one of my vidyagaems

>>61891440
>tags: classical electronic hip hop jazz metal
kekd

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>>61891329
He was trying to add padding inside the case, not stuff it inside the guitar. There was too much on top of the finger rest so it pushed the DeArmond control pod into the top when he closed the case. Its a 1930s D'Angelico.

>>61891273

>fought for hours with a rasp and a air-powered sander for for a belly cut
>never even thought of doing this.

this is why i'm not a luthier.

>>61891440
The fuck is this

>>61880734
Randy Jackson plays a Jackson. :)

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>>61891575
>Its a 1930s D'Angelico.

>>61891378
The couple of luthiers I know have more pics of LP headstock repairs than anything else.

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>>61891631
This guitar. Guy in the vid is not the current owner.
https://youtu.be/vp1NvY1Rp_o

>>61891465
>>61891505
>>61891544
>>61891616
It's called making music that represents yourself and not trying to be like someone else. Y'all need to fucking quit hating on others, all of your hate is gonna smack you in the face and you arent gonna make it anywhere in life. I guarantee it

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>>61891294
And here it is. My most prized posession. A 'custom' Gretsch copy.

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>>61891969
Nice detail work in the cutaway. And that urethane glue! Innovative!

>>61891920
Have a (You)

>>61891920
Damn, why are you so defensive? And I have the right to critiscize your work. Not that it's bad, just that it's not my thing. I'm no songwriter, either. I've been playing guitar for two months and I've only come up with some happy/sad melodies.

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>>61892012
Also note the hacksawed off neck.

The innovations dont end there. Check out this bondo binding!

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>>61892068
And the piece de resistance.

>>61891575
Don't proper case have enough padding?

>>61891920
You've been posting your shit in /gg/ for months, and every time you end up saying the same thing, stop projecting dude.

>>61892113
Its the original case from the 30s. They just made a few set sizes, so some guitars will move a little bit inside. Not really a big deal unless you're really manhandling it.

>>61891630
He does! No relation, apparently.

>>61891969
>>61892068
Were these proper carved tops or more like the pressed tops on Harmony's?

I've seen them around but never got to play one.

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>>61892234
Freddy Fender playing a Fender!

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>>61892329
Debbie "Gibson" Gibson

>>61892265
Yes, its a pressed plywood guitar. The 'figuring' is airbrushed on. Its probably a harmony, stella, or a regal. Maybe a kay. It was a piece of shit befor it got hacked up.

>>61892429
fuck yeah

How do I make an AC15 more jazzy? Different tubes? Different speaker?

>>61892546
"Jazzy" usually sounds like you just rolled off the tone knob on your guitar. And also a flatter EQ.

>>61892546
AC15 will always be midrangey and will compress/distort easily. For jazz, the scooped mids and headroom of a fender pro reverb or twin reverb sounds far better to my ear. Polytone is also a good option if you dont mind solid state.

>>61891440
This is just another form of Jbenitex, right?
It's been awhile since I've seen that guy shit up threads

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>>61891969
>>61892012
>>61892068
>>61892092
Why did he spread nutella on his neck?

>>61889126
Yes, absolutely. It's worth knowing at least the seven modes of the major scale: that knowledge will make you a much better improviser. It's especially useful to be able to improvise with different scales over different chords, as opposed to the same minor pentatonics over I-IV-V progressions. I would actually say that understanding which scales to use under specific chord changes is the essence of fusion, and what really separates it from jazz (which emphasizes rhythm just as much as melody).

It's entirely possible to learn these things without becoming a "fusion player" exclusively. Check out Tom Monda's work in Thank You, Scientist or Guthrie Govan's work with Steve Wilson. I don't think anyone would consider their music "fusion" but they certainly borrow musical ideas from that idiom and use them to great effect.

Aside from ALL of that, knowing the theory behind it will make communicating musically much easier, and you'll be able to work with a wider variety of musicians.

>>61892688
Because its fucking delicious!

>>61892644
Assuming I can't buy a new amp any time soon, what else do you recommend?

>>61892644
SS can be good tbqh.

>>61892701
Btw I'm fully aware that Govan is absolutely a fusion player with his solo work and Monda has a degree in jazz performance.

>>61892745
Turn it down and mic it through the PA maybe.

>>61892767
Yup. Depends what youre doing. For clean sounds, jazz, pedal steel, etc there are some great options. For overdriven sounds, not so much. Too square wavey and harsh sounding. A pro reverb will do both, and of course this is the one that fender decides not to reissue. You can get a 70s silverface for arou d 1k usd

does anyone else start to sweat alot when you restring your guitar

i always think i will break the strings

>>61892914
wait until one of them snaps and slices you right under your eye

>>61892984
this is why im scared to play violin because its too close to your face and those strings have some tension

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>>61892914
>>61892984
Pic related and dont overtighten. There is no need to be scurred.

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>>61893005
I don't play violin because I'm scared of failure

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>>61893062
I dont play violin because I have no strings.

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>>61893159
anon, i'm completely ruined and forlorn. please please make me happy and send me your violin. I will string it and learn to play it and love it forever anon pls

>>61893159
rip sweet prince

>>61893159
or a bridge

>>61893005
>>61893062
>>61893159
I don't play violin because it requires too much skill to learn. I'd love to learn it but it seems like something that has to be learned from a young age.

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>>61893242
I've got a couple tailpieces and a bridge. I have a chin rest somewhere too. I need to get one of the bows rehaired. It has a questionable looking headstock repair, but Id like to try to set it up for bluegrass.

>>61893274
i think that is not true really

sure if you picked it up at a young age youd pick up on it alot faster but there is no reason you cant learn later in life especially if youre going to get lessons

Are finger exercises a meme? Would it be more productive to just plays scales with different phrasing?

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>>61893328

>>61893336
No time though, free time is something you only have when you're a kid or unemployed.

>>61887744
I've used both a lot, I currently own the Behringer clone. It's fucking awesome †bh ƒam, just be really careful dialing-in your tone. It responds weirdly to the slightest changes. Sounds d'icious though, really does. And baby it, it's plastic and cheep so don't stomp it or anything. The electronics are sound, the build is flimsy

>>61893450
thats true i am a neet basically so i didnt think of it

This is a musical theory question.

So I'm working on a song right now and the chord progression, and I found that a chord that's out of key still sounds great, despite being out of key. The progression is Emaj Amaj Dmaj Bmaj.

I can't find any key that has all these chords, but it still sounds nice. Is there an explanation as to why they sound good together?

guitar is too hard. you need too much natural talent to be good

>>61893649
because B is the 5th of E

>>61891440
>>61891920
>this fag still posts

>>61893678
and this doesn't apply to every instrument?

>>61893649
3/4 are in E maj, so i'd assume the D is a borrowed chord, i just don't know how it fits

>>61893710
What about Dmaj? A major and E major are the keys I'm thinking of here. A major has B and D, but the B is supposed to be a minor. E major doesn't even have a D note in it.

>>61888975

what the fuck happened here

>>61893649
>>61893779
This is exactly what I'm wondering. I just played it randomly with the progression and I found it sounded really nice.

>>61893649
Sounds like punk rock

>>61893800
Construction accident. Right angle drill bound up in a joist and pinned my finger under the flange of the second hand grip thing.

http://www.andertons.co.uk/semi-hollow-amp-hollow-body/pid31899/cid670/ibanez-as53-semihollow-electric-guitar-in-tobacco-flat.asp

Does anyone here have experience with this guitar/can tell me if it's decent for a beginner? I'm stuck between this and a Yamaha Pacifica. This is the only one I was able to try out, and I liked it, but I don't know if I'm the best judge...

I want a violin desu.

Should I start a Grindcore band or a Black Metal band?

>>61894183
blackgrind

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>>61890272
ill post progress pictures of the kelly now, just dumping this
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1NkP4MGQGdR
I can stop playing that soft E to A change that cpt. anderpants did in the baritone review video.

Im looking for a guitar with more upper neck access compared my Epi Custom Pro. I was thinking Ibanez/Jackson/ESP models,

Any specific models I should be looking at? Any other brands that im looking over?

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>>61894183
>start jug band
>dress like cream of wheat guy
>?????????
>profit

>>61893649
It's in E Mixolydian. The Bmaj is a borrowed chord from E major.

>>61894305
Also im poor so used or cheaper models

>>61894116
Same bruh
>>61894183
Yes

>>61894259
idk dude. I like each genre for different reasons, and see each one as a medium or different kind of emotions. wouldn't really want to mix em

>>61894314
hmm.. you might be on to something...

>>61894321
Question here, isn't E Mixolydian, in terms of chords, the exact same as A major? What makes this chord progression in E Mixolydian?

>>61894044
yeah that's fine for now

if you get into a band space you might get some feedback from the other instruments, something to consider if you're going semi-hollow

>>61894462
Cause the root is on E?

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>>61894279
first coat; on
You can still see all the little bumps and dings, which is what I was going for initially... however, there are a lot mroe of them than I had anticipated, so I'm considering completely sanding it all back to get an even finish but then the guitar won't look old and beaten to shit. (The whole point is to re-vamp my first guitar without removing the premise that my first guitar got abused to hell and back)

>>61894870
Oh shit that's cool how you figured that out (I'm not being sarcastic, I never looked at it like that). I need to read up on a lot more musical theory. Thanks for the help dude.

>>61894321
Actually, it may be more correct to call it E major with a borrowed chord from E Mixolydian

>>61894462
The tonic note is E. You can feel how the progression wants to end back on E major, especially because of the V chord at the end of the progression

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>>61894873
shoulda just tung'd it imho ƒam

>>61894969
>E major with a borrowed chord from E Mixolydian
Fuck me, I meant borrowed chord from E minor

>>61894969
I was under the impression that borrowed chords only worked with the major/minor of a key. Like, if you had E major you could only borrow from E minor. Is there a musical theory explanation as to why I could borrow from E Mixolydian? Or can you borrow from any key's respective modal scales?

>>61895045
>>61895046
Disregard this post then, haha.

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>>61895032
I had to get rid of the bajillion mm thick poly finish that was initially on it. That was the most tedious fucking part.

>>61894930
Yeah I learned theory a long time ago but completely forgot about it and I'm brushing up again. So I wasn't trying to be a dick I was legitimately guessing

Okay, I restrung my Ibanez RG2550 and tried that weird Karnivool tuning (BF#BF#BE, so, open Bm tuning) and I gotta say I have mixed feelings. Playing chords is a shitton of fun but I have no idea how to properly play soli with this tuning or open tunings in gerneral. Is there some kind of learning kurve with open tunings or do I have to get my lazy ass to learn scales?

>>61895032
>That body finish/pickguard combo
Absolutely lovely! It's really a shame you hardly ever see a non-custom-shop guitar with this design.

>>61895352
Alright, thanks for the help man! Although it technically wasn't the correct answer (the guy who said E major with borrowed chord from E minor got it), it made me look up a bunch of stuff on the modal scales and it's pretty cool.

>>61882151
no where else to buy cause they've driven competition out. BRAVO

>>61893649
The simple explanation is notes that aren't within the key you are playing in can still sound good. The only note you have in any of those chords that isn't in the key of E Major is D natural. Without actually playing it, I would assume it sounds good because normally the 7th that would be D#-F#-A, a tension/leading chord, is probably made to be less tense by flatting the root, allowing you to go back to Bmaj before resolving back to 1. Essentially, by shift that one note, you can retain some of the the tension from using the D# diminished while still creating tension that is resolved nicely by going up a whole tone from the fifth of Dmaj (A) up to your next root of B, then using the strong V-I to bring it back home strong.

So it builds nicely going from Emaj to Amaj - I-IV

Then builds up a bit of tension going form Amaj to Dmaj, but not too much since you stay with a major chord that only has one flatted note.

Then the 5th of that Dmaj helps you move into a Bmaj because moving up a whole tone from the 5th of a chord is a standard movement that sounds solid.

Lastly, having the V-I is typically the most "powerful" or "complete" resolution that creates `a strong sense of finality.

I could be wrong, I just started learning this stuff a few months ago so if anybody else has a different take or I am mistaken, feel free to throw it out.

>>61894873
First coat of what? What have you done, anon?!?!

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>>61895677
wood stain.
I didn't build the body myself, I would never use three different coloured bits of wood (not even the same amount of wood for each part) and then coat it in 3mm thick poly, jackson did.

I'm working to make it look nicer, but the stain takes ages to set in.

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Hey guys, I have a Fender Deville 410 amp, and it's extremely bassy to the point where my guitar sounds really muddy if I do a fingerpicking thing on the lower strings, I've literally turned the bass all the way down but it's not enough.
I have a guitar with a high pass switch and it gets almost manageable with the high pass on and the amp bass at 0, but not quite...
It also sounds a bit worse with the high pass on so I'd rather not use it...
Do I need to get an EQ pedal?

Does anyone has a book to develope folk guitar music?, i want something in the way of John Martyn/Michael Kiwanuka style

I don't understand the mass amount of different scales. I understand them in theory and also how modes work, but I don't get why there's so many different kinds.

I have a book with loads of scales and chords in it for reference, but the scale diagrams are different compared to just being major scale shapes with the root notes changes up and down the fretboard. Do I need to learn these?

I'm trying to find a picture of what I mean, but there's so many different shapes and diagrams it's hard to explain.

>>61895894
What do you mean? Does it sound too bassy for your taste or is there something wrong with the amp?

>>61896410
I don't know if it's supposed to sound like that on the low strings, I sounds good on lower volume this is a bit cranked for practice with a band

>>61896190
they are all just for certain flavors. you don't have to learn more obscure ones unless you want to.

>>61896190
Scales are just ways of organizing notes. I doubt most guitars players, even many professionals, know more than 15 or so anyway. Learn what you need to learn in order to make the kind of music you want to make. Different styles of music demand different skill/knowledge sets.

Once you get beyond the modes of the major and minor scales, most scale names are just simple descriptors of the ones you know already but with small changes, like "Lydian #5". That pretty much tells you what you need to know about the scale but some background knowledge on how to construct a Lydian scale is required.

>>61896451
This seems weird. My bandmate had the exact same amp and the tone was clean and bright as fuck during practice.

>>61895032
I'll do this to my RG655 when the finish is damaged enough, it looks great.

>>61896720
Hm. I will have to look into this

>>61896877
>RG655

when will they make a duncan loaded cheap MIJ model? FUCK

>>61896451
Yeah, I'm with >>61896720 , i think there might be something wrong with the amp. Hot-rods aren't super muddy amps. Mine can get pretty sharp

>>61897015
No Prestiges in sight with SDs mate, sorry.

I saw some RG655s in eBay sold for as low as $670 so maybe you'll be able to find one.

Mine was $800 brand new thanks to the Make Offer button.

>>61890702
Well no shit you can buy used pedals cheaper that should have already been obvious but what you can buy used is limited by what people want to sell and i've seen a much greater range of pedals as DIY kits online than I have as second-hand.

>>61897015
>Duncan
Never. Go buy an RG560 or RG550 used and put them in though.

>>61895894
maybe the speakers are blown or something?

doesn't sound right

>>61880313

Earthquaker devices are dropping a new reverb/delay.

how do i sing like thom yorke?

>>61897665
gargle semen 10 hours daily

>>61897015
Ibanez only uses dimarzio for some reason, oh and emgs on certain models.

>>61898187
thanks ill try it out

>>61898195
>some reason
Partnership deal.

They use BKPs in some models now as well.

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>2016 charvel lineup
If I was going to buy another 6 it would be this.

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>>61898621
or this

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>>61898621

>>61898680
î like your carpet

>>61898761
Rug

How do you learn to solo like you see people in guitar shops do?

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Greatest ever!

>>61898761
>>61898790
>Isn't my guitar, house, or rug
>Grandma has a rug exactly like that though
Never noticed that actually.

>>61898830
Realize you're not them and continue to progress like normal.

>>61898621
>>61898661
>floyd rose in 2016
shiggy doowap diddlydoo

>>61898946
>I don't like tuning stability

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>>61898946
got you covered senpai

>>61898868
>its actually your grandmas guitar, rug and house
>she bought it as a present for you
>surprise ruined

>>61898621
>floyd rose
ruined

>>61895740
Yeah it can be pretty surprising what you find after you strip it. I got a samick strat off the free section of craigslist that I decided to strip. I stripped off all that poly with methylene chloride and a heat gun. It was made of fucking plywood. But on the bright side, someone had stuck a 80s seymour duncan jb maricela juarez in there. If you do strip yours back down, check out reranch.com for great info/supplies.

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What's your dream amp /gg/?
I really want a Orange Thunderverb 200/Sunn Model T/Fender Quad Reverb

>>61899382
big ass orange amp I can play at full volume

>>61899366
reranch is fucking expensive, unless you need vintage correct paint just buy cheap. For budget: aerosol for nice: auto paint

>>61899149
See >>61898984

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>>61899366
yeah I tried my best to keep (what i assume is) the light wood veneer on the back, because the one block of wood is so much darker than the rest that it fucks with the colour of the stain so much. Not sure if I should just go ape shit with the sander and go over it again, thoughts?

>on the plus side the colour is what I was after
got red and yellow for a cheeky fade on the front.
>>61899382
probably a huge orange stack, but I would have to move far away to play it half as loud as I'd like.

>>61899382
probably the big ass foot switched digital one from line 6.

>>61899466
leave it like it is nod and put it together. Play it for a while and see if you like it.

In other news, that new Verellen (>>61885089
) is interesting. Imagine getting 6 or 7 of these and BTFO'ing Sunn O))) 's wall of Model T' s.
>>61899423
>>61899466
I feel you guys. Having a high end/vintage orange would be great, but it hardly means anything if you can't crank it to get that sweet power tube distortion
>>61899488
Why?