>>61866775 Okay serious jazz guy here (not just puffing smoke, i literally have a pointless degree in jazz studies) and honestly The Epic is pretty much vanguard stuff. The problem is that the vanguard of jazz these days is pretty much just awesome technique and borrowing elements from 50's, 60's and 70's jazz. I mean after free jazz and fusion theres not really anywhere for jazz to go imo but just as music The Epic is pretty fucking awesome.
People who bitch about too long songs, too long solos, too long of an album are just people who dont like jazz. Since the late 50's most serious jazz is long as shit because every member has a lot to say in their solos. The melody of tunes almost dont matter anymore which i think turns non jazzers away from the music.
I could do without some of the special effects in the album but again thats a staple of modern acoustic jazz to sprinkle it in a bit.
>>61866775 It's a good album, just way, way overhyped. Besides being 3 hours long and having been released on Brainfeeder this album has nothing special going on at all. It's a lot of style and not that much substance. It's not bad but there are so many other jazz albums that came out last year that are just as good and better.
>>61869216 on my way to a pointless degree in jazz studies, i feel the same way as you. Although I will say the solos aren't really anything that mind blowing, but I do really enjoy the somewhat unique arrangements of some standards on the album
this is the superior brainfeeder jazz album of 2015, fight me. The only interesting thing about the epic is the string and choir arrangements, everything else is just a throwback to hippy/spiritual jazz of the 60s and 70s eg pharoah sanders. solos are nice but not mind-blowing.
kneedelus on the other hand is an album that tries to do something new with the blending of electronic and acoustic elements, odd time signatures, some interesting tonality etc, obviously this is something jazz guys do all the time nowadays but at least it's an album which wants to be something new and unique (which by the way I think is the most important part of playing 'jazz', whatever that is)
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