Tyler had such a great thing going for him, then somewhere down the road he decides to throw away his potential and create music that appeals to shitty, delinquent, high school kids. Bastard was great, Goblin was dope as fuck, Wolf was underwhelming and mind numbing at points, and Cherry Bomb is a ducking disaster. Felt like as though he got inspiration from the cut scenes of Sonic Adventure 2. Instrumentals were so loud, I could hear what the fuck Tyler was saying.
Earl has him eating his dust at this point. This man is taking hip-hop and putting such melancholic twist to it. Very emotional. very serious. You can even tell Earl has grown as a person during his live performances. I've seen him break up this random crowd surfing and pit-like behavior just to get people to listen to him perform. You can easily see he's done with all this childish shit. I can't wait for future releases from Earl.
>>61830862 >he left Tyler in the dust in practically all facets right? I thought so before earl dropped IDLS and Tyler Dropped Cherry Bomb. Doris was my shit and I didn't like any of tyler's shit as much. But they kind of flip flopped with their latest albums.
Earl is the most transparent, boring rapper out there. Takes himself way too seriously >"all the production on the album is gonna be minimalist and lo-fi >"because I'm depressed, Tyler!" >"yea this songs gonna be called grief, on account of my depression" >"maybe I can abuse some Xanax, so I have something to write about. I'm so mature" >"did I mention I'm depressed. And grown"
Lol so sad. Wiki fans are convinced he's good yet he has none of the qualities of a good or memorable rapper. Just utterly forgettable and makes boring trash music. I bet you think fbz is good and ab soul is deep
>>61832730 yeah he's not poetic though. clever maybe, sometimes, but poetic, hell fucking no. too self centered and superficial to write poetic lyrics. it's never coming from a place of sincerity he whines the entire album about missing his grandmother while knowing damn well he was getting fucked up on a bunch of drugs when he had the chance to visit her on her death bed. maybe if he actually acknowledged that, the flaws that don't make him look artistic or cool to plebs, I'd take him seriously. talking about depression just because it's what's hip right now doesn't make anyone poetic. kid's still got a lot of growing up to do, despite what he himself thinks
>>61831088 Nah earls new music sucks. Completely self indulgent and boring. Tyler may be self indulgent but at least he doesn't Act like he's so deep. Cherry bomb was an excellent album. The only thing holding back Tyler rn is his shit tier lyrics. He's a great producer with his own sound. He just had 0 things to talk about.
>>61830862 i would say earl is better but not by much he is sort of hard to listen to now days as his content is more serious and sort of emo i never really understand what hes going on about but it does have some good writing to it
This is BS. If you watched his interview with NPR you'd know he admitted his faults and he's tried to clean up several times but realizes in the end he benefits from ocassional weed usage for creativity & relaxation. I myself agree with this. He even had the hook on the song Sunday that said "My dreams got more vivid when I stopped smoking pot" Really says a lot. He also talked about his failed relationship and troubles with love, losing friends, anxieties of coming back in the limelight and on IDLS he mentioned some more of that and dealing with overcoming depression and hardships in his life.
I think he's clearly more intelligent than Tyler in some aspects, has expressed love of philosophy, has great music taste and his production and lyricism is wonderful. Great dude. Love all his stuff, even his old darker stuff. He's blunt and can come off as rude/pretentious but if you really get him, you'll love him. He also is surprisingly quite funny. I'm glad he moved on from OF/Tyler though. He needed to, it was time. The guy is in his twenties now, it was gonna happen eventually. And clearly, they're still cool as far as we know. People grow up. The movement they had won't be soon forgotten and we got some great relatable stuff in their prime. Goblin to me in highschool was amazing. Bastard too. Not as big on the later stuff from him but he's older as well so stuff changes. I liked some of Cherry Bomb but as someone else said, he has nothing more to say. I however still like Earl's stuff mostly.
>>61830862 the whole thing is marketing you dumb cunt. tyler appeals to the immature, edgy teenagers while earl reels in the late teens/early 20s midly depressed college kids who just found out about drugs, politics and tumblr. it's a good way to reel in the whole market under the odd future umbrella
Bastard was great because it was raw, his most creative & dark without being too edgy and tryhard. It felt pretty real and different when it came out. Easily his magnum opus.
Goblin was good but not as good as Bastard. However, it's vastly overhated for the wrong reasons. I do think he tried to be edgy a bit too much and some of the production isn't amazing but the lyrics are at his best, the storytelling is amazing (See: Title track, Radicals, Golden and Her) and it feels like his best album because you can really feel his depression on it. It's really well done and real.
Wolf is good but I think it's overrated and too safe for him. The production is an improvement but the lyricism is sub-par for the time period, the album isn't that cohesive (Tamale and Treehome on the same album?) and it seems he couldn't decide what he wanted his persona to be on the album. It's too mixed up and some songs are forgettable. I also find the storyline a little annoying and forced.
Cherry Bomb is easily his worst as we all mostly agree on. It has some highlights though, I really like Okaga Ca, Find Your Wings and 2Seater. Smuckers and Deathcamp are decent as well. But the rest of album suffers from poor mixing because of too much DeathGrips worshipping, forgettable songs with random and mediocre lyrics and barely a concept.
Eh, I see your points but really Tyler also has some great songs that aren't edgy (Treehome95, Analog 2, Wheels, Find Your Wings) and while there's not as many, I also think a lot of people relate to his older lyrics and remember he was only 18 when he started and of course his eye for detail and production is pretty awesome.
Earl could also be seen that way from a certain perspective but I just love how real & relatable his lyrics are, how introspective he can be and how he's just blunt and to the point. He also doesn't ever give in for money/sell out.
>>61833366 I didn't get the impression that the album was trying to be deep. The thing is barely half an hour long, it felt like he was just trying to work through his shit and show a snapshot of what he's dealing with
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