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Like the other guy said you can look for an old sampler keyboard, but honestly I would just stick with a computer and save up for an mpc since the sampler/sequencer will be one of the core pieces in a computerless setup.
Logic has the worst metering. -18db in digital, is supposed to be equivalent to 0db analog, is at the bottom 90% of the meter. After that it's just hot as fuck and the resolution seems less accurate since the scale is so scewed.
Other than that, it's a fine program for writing or tracking. I don't use it for mixing.
It was a last resort because reaper wasn't recognizing my board and i didn't have internet to hunt drivers down. Had to plug in and go. I wish i could just use protools without lugging around an interface that gets recognized by digi and that dumb ilok.
>setting plugins to high cpu mode/high oversampling modes before bouncing the final mix
why do i love this feel?
You take whatever drumsamples you have and alter them until you like it. Use compression, eq, distortion or whatever you can think of to add some character to your sounds. Then export it so you can easily use it in future projects
Soundcraft SI is also a shit. The Q knob adjusts width backwards compared to every other board I've used. Only 14 faders on one layer so you have to switch between two layers for the last two channels if you use all the inputs. The same applies for the 32 version of the board. Also, to multitrack out of it, you have to buy their expansion cards to use usb or firewire. It's overpriced for the range of audio quality and features compared to it's competition.
I'm admittedly more an engineer than "producer" so....
Is any of this relevant or am i just shit posting? Feel free to ask questions or talk shit about gear with me.
lol i can't figure out how to actually use harmor or sytrus and i want to fucking kill myself hahahahaa :) :) :) :) i tinker around with them but just make really shitty sounds always or it just sounds like a tacky shitty preset
Audio buffer is just a bucket for your audio stream, all changing the size does is, well...change its size. It doesn't do anything to the quality of audio that's held in it.
Where it does make a difference is, as you say, performance. A bigger bucket takes longer to fill and adds latency to your response time but that's all.
Roland SP-404 vs. Roland SP-404sx?
Pretty sure im gonna get one of these, but which one? I make some sort of weird lofi hip hop beat music.
I'm mainly gonna use it for production but is it any useful for live performances as well?
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you can sample at a specified tempo, but not resample at one. so when you're resampling or sampling at a non-specified tempo it will display a whole number as the tempo but there is actually a decimal point you can't see, so loops that say they're the same tempo can go out of sync. you can't record a new sample while another sample is playing (no playing a synth or drums or whatever over a sample and recording it onto a pad). you can only resample up to 4 samples at once, 2 if they're in stereo, and you can't resample a recorded pattern, only playing in real time. the start and endpoint knobs only do fine adjustments of like 100ms, other than that you have to play the sample through and hit the marker button to mark start and end points or exit and re-enter the start/end point menu to keep using the knobs to take off another 100ms. there's also no sampling across multiple pads or dividing an existing sample across multiple pads, so you would have to do what i just mentioned with a longer sample you recorded and keep duplicating it to new pads, unless you were going to stop the audio on whatever you were sampling from and restart it every time you recorded a new sample (also if you were to do this, it forgets the tempo you specified for each new sample). other than that, the pitch and timeshifting just never really sounded that great to me.
also if that doesn't deter you, the only difference between them is the sx has some extra effects, uses wav format instead of some weird custom one roland made, is slightly faster apparently, and has a worse vinyl sim than the og (although i have the sx and dpon't really mind the vinyl sim)
For recording use the fastest setting, aka 128 or less to reduce latency and help play in time without a delay betweem input and what you hear. For mixing, max it out, aka 1024+, to use the most of your cpu to accurately process the signal without it getting choppy or completely failing to play back. More tracks and more plug-ins require more to process.
Lol I'm using one right now suck my ass
Read about dBfs and how they came up with it.
I was saying 90% of the meter as in it's physical location, not the amount of actual signal.
My fader here is at 0db, but -18 is not any where near it. Was just saying the scale is off.
Any mixing tips?
The progressions are not completed etc.
been working on this for a few days, but I just completely changed the drums and some other things. any thoughts on this?
I'm on an old laptop with a shitty onboard sound card and i wanna produce some music. What do i need to spend more on/What's more important: Audio interface or monitors?
I own the Teufel Magnum E Concept 5.1 Power Edition, but i guess they suck for mixing and stuff.
did you guys all just not bother opening up the other thread i made or do you really all just not care about this thing?
neither would i, but i would want this to add to my hardware setup or maybe even to use with my daw instead of loading up ableton's chord tool or cthulhu (which this looks better than either of)
refer to >>61825312
>why do you care so much about the fact that nobody cared about that chord machine
because obviously you did care, otherwise you wouldn't be vehemently trying to get people to find some reason to care about it like in
if those are the reasons you like it and want it, fine, those are valid reasons, but then to go and try to insult a person for not liking the product>>61825269 is ridiculous, and what's even more hilarious is the fact that you claim to not care at all about the whole thing
holy fucking teenagers lol
>vehemently trying to get people to find some reason to care about it
you mean calmly stating why i thought it was a cool thing? not quite sure how you could confuse the two
>try to insult a person for not liking the product
i insulted him for calling me a shill and just generally being immature about seeing something he didn't like
>claim to not care at all about the whole thing
nope lol i'm not one of the kids here who tries to be all cool and detached by not caring about stuff. i admitted that i thought it was cool, i'm arguing against the notion that i "care so much" like that's some kind of bad thing, sorry that you take my mild confusion/disappointment at people's lack of interest as some kind of confrontational thing.
Lived like 20 minutes from where they make their chairs, have say in many varieties, every single on of them is outlandishly comfy.
Too bad their are priced equally outlandishly.
Dat Aeron chair is fucking heaven though.
So this is day 3.
I've had a 3-piece basement band with some friends for about a year.
We practice once a week, so most of the time I'm playing alone. I started playing with some loop pedals and running around playing different shit, but I was getting bored of it and it's very limiting.
So I bought an MBP, Ableton, Push, Scarlett 18i20, etc...
I'm terrified that this is going to consume me and/or I will never make anything worth listening to.
Someone tell me it's going to be ok.
I'd buy monitors, not headphones. Even cheap monitors. Then use your onboard sound, it's fine. The difference with onboard vs professional sound cards is mostly latency, in/out options, and sound quality is the smallest difference.
Just make sure you don't have any sound card driver "enhancements" enabled, or have it use the generic Windows HD Audio driver and it'll sound fine.
That 5.1 system you have will be bad for monitoring, just get a 2 channel system designed for mixing. Mackie, Presonus, etc. have good cheap ones.
I'd say this is really solid, I cannot provide you with advice (noob) but I dig it.
chill af, maybe some dainty synth arpeggios would sound cool
definitely needs a little processing on the drums, and the clap is a bit quiet, but I love the beat when it comes in
Here is my first fuckery in a DAW. I'm coming from an only hardware setup and mainly just using samples for this, but for what it's worth I feel confident enough to post it here. Criticism appreciated.
If it's any consolation my audio professor who works at my school said there's a lot of miscellaneous audio jobs out there for people who know how to work something as simple Audacity. Apparently he got some work making samples, for lack of a better word, of a scientist defining different parts of a cell or something.
manifest what you want to achieve. put in countless hours of research, troubleshooting, and labor. don't ever give up. get your music to the standards of quality you expect to hear when listening to music.
so where do I get my torrents from if I can't find a particular one I'm looking for?
I tried my sites already rutraker piratebay kickass I event went to audioz
I'm looking for a preset pack vandalism's shockng deep house
How do you make effects on a track constantly change as a producer? I think i saw it in ableton once, where guy basically had nodes all over his track and could change parameter of the effects on the track constantly. I don't know how to get into that.
Do you mean automations?
>never produce like this
Fucking good. This degenerate shit is what's currently over-saturating shows.
>ay mang how we gonna make dis song
>just twerk up dat bass and slap a limiter on it
....So what is just putting cords on a fucking drum rack.
Holy shit I hope no one is actually stupid enough to by this.
I know how to use synthesiser and am trained in theory, but i have no idea how to make drums digitally? is the majority of it sample based or something? Using ableton if that means anything
Ableton's defaults are notoriously shit, just fyi. You use Ableton for it's freedom of creation, not it's standard instruments.
> is the majority of it sample based or something?
50/50; I personally use Battery for most of my shit. Most common method is just stacking multiple layers of kicks and tweaking around until you have a sound you like.
Other thing you can do is start looking at synth kicks; what's nice about those is that they are easy to tune.
If you are trying to make a drum sound absolutely from scratch, and only currently have Ableton's default instruments, then messing around with Operator is going to be your best bet, or just messing around with the prebuilt drumracks, like the 808 kit.
As soon as they start selling in Brazil, that's the plan.
By not having a life and being incredibly business-driven. Yesterday I had two original minutes of a three minute track scrapped because the client changed his mind on what he wanted on the base for the track and I did two new minutes with different instruments and arrangement based on the new specifications that were approved. On a Sunday, yes.
That's not an unusual occurrence, so if you're going down this path, it helps to be prepared to live doing this kind of thing a lot. I had less than 7 days off in 2015 and am hoping I'll have at least today off to finish a track I started in November.
>just discovering automation
good times, goooood times.
in other news, i think i'm tone deaf and all my shit is actually completely out of tune. i should've just learned theory instead of writing by ear
>just play the chords yourself
do you guys think that everybody is good at keyboard and can just play any chord at will? i really don't get why so many people are trying to say this thing is stupid and useless instead of just realizing it's not made for people like them lol
you mean the ability to recall a single chord instead of have a bunch of them readily available? yeah, that's totally comparable lol
Just take the time to learn chords man, shouldn't take that long and you'll feel vindicated once you know how to do it and have the freedom to layer everything the way you want it.
I just installed Ableton 64 bits on W8.1 and made a custom VST folder, put in 64 bit VSTs in it and none of them appear. I've tried re-installing live too but nothing happens.
Help me please, this is driving me crazy and I can't find any solutions online.
Pretty cool and convincing, but there's something that happens in the melody where it feels like you're killing the other instruments with too much side-chaining. Check that out. Maybe make it so all the instruments "pop out" more, like, exaggerate a little, like an actor would do on stage to reach the audience at the back.
It's not that bad, although it's not of high quality. But I like your ideas, especially the syncopated castanet-like sound. You could totally make a piece of music that used this kind of erratic "fuck you" unpredictable patterns if you did some focused brain-storming about it.
>do you guys think that everybody is good at keyboard and can just play any chord at will?
It's called practice. It's obvious that not every producer is able to play the keyboard, but every producer can learn to play the keyboard
>to learn all 36 of those chord types and get good enough at playing each that it would be as fast as just using this thing? that seems unlikely
Most music is made up of fifths, major and minor chords. You really won't need to use more unless you get into jazz/classical material, but the advanced chords you are most likely to use aren't even that complex
Like this you mean?
I know it says "This PC" but even if I set it to there it still comes up as my username.
As you can see, I tried with a shortcut and by copying the .dll and none of them worked.
nope, it's actually just being realistic. i know how good at keyboard i am and the rate i learn at lol.
holy shit lol what is going on this thread? why is this community of primarily electronic musicians balking at the thought of somebody wanting to automate part of the process? i'm glad you people don't run the companies that build these things or we'd never get anything cool made lol
The way you think about it affects how well you do. If you're pessimistic, your brain will always be reluctant to use resources. If you're optimistic, your brain will, like a body of water, quickly find the best and quickest ways to approach problems.
I had your mentality toward mixing when I started out, and it went really slow. But now, 6 months later, I already know what all the plugins can do and I feel in control of my DAW and can use it creatively for problem-solving.
Start with major and minor through some basic music theory site, and then move on to sevenths and sus4/2 chords. When you feel you've mastered them, the rest will come a LOT easier.
Always use multiple sources, as they will compliment eachother and maybe give you some crucial information that makes a concept click for you.
Play everything you learn to get it in your hands and in your ears.
Take frequent breaks and naps. You'd be amazed at how clear-headed you become after 20 minutes in a dark room. Sometimes when I've practiced guitar for an hour and have cursed because I wasn't able to pull of a certain technique and taken a nap, I've been able to pull it off flawlessly right afterwards. A human body works in mysterious ways.
I don't mean that when I told you to make a shortcut. I mean keep the .dll's with the rest of the files where they originally installed and just make a short and put only the shortcut on the folder.
It's all about the mentality senpai, but just know that you're using excuses that limit yourself.
Hammondfag reporting in.
I had a chord organ. I burned it. Why are you so invested in something that people thought was for kids in the 70s
>I don't mean that when I told you to make a shortcut. I mean keep the .dll's with the rest of the files where they originally installed and just make a short and put only the shortcut on the folder.
Like a directory shortcut? And then put the directory shortcut in my custom VST folder? (Pic related)
I have to mention that I've been using Live 8 up until I got this new laptop, which is when I upgraded to 9. With 8 I never had any problems installing VSTs.
If you look at the image I posted in >>61838135 you can see that I posted a shortcut of the M1.dll there and that didn't work either.
Like >>61838371 said, I've always copied the .dll's into the VST folder and it's never been an issue. I have a feeling that it's nothing to do with how I'm placing them, but something else.
Okay I figured it out. It was my mistake.
I had been grabbing the .dll from the Korg M1 directory but there was a second .dll in a file called Vstplugins in Program Files, which now appears in Live.
Still can't find out how to fix Massive but maybe that's a similar issue.
Thank you for all the help any way.
I don't know what to do with this, I only took random samples from random music videos on youtube and it ended up like this. Oh and the drum kick is the very first kick from Idioteque.
So, Converse Sample Library made a M4L plugin that has cloud support to fuck with their samples and such. I tried to download it and give it a shot, but it seems my Live 9 Suite doesn't have max installed or it wanted me to sign in. I'm a pirate fag at the moment so I wanted to ask how I could get around this and use M4L?
I have a chord organ like the other guy it was the dumbest idea I've ever had
I bought it JUST so I can play Memory Of a Free Festival because that's the instrument I think bowie used (some garbage reed organ) so I bought something similar. It looks cool I guess though.
Just learn all the chords don't be a little bitch buying a $500 crutch that will play the chords for you
And no I'd say most people here only know all the major/minor chords and need to look up the trickier chords
>I bought it JUST so I can play Memory Of a Free Festival
you're right, that is dumb.
supposed to be less than $250 but far be it from all of you to not reach for reasons to dislike this thing, apparently. lol
>Just learn all the chords
lol i bet you're all the people who call sampling "stealing" and have other ass-backwards old-man opinions about making music
How are you going to utilize the chords on that device if you don't know the notes that make up the chord? Are you going to look it up every chord or play blindly until something fits?
>How are you going to utilize the chords on that device if you don't know the notes that make up the chord?
by pressing the buttons and making chords happen?
holy shit are you people ever mad about this thing that you aren't going to buy lol
so, as the anon said, you are just going to randomly press buttons until you find something that kinda works?
wow I'm sure you're on your way to making 5-star tracks just as soon as you buy that chord machine.
yes... you are aware that this is already a thing that people have been doing, right? have you not heard of cthulhu?
also feel free to post your 5 star tracks... or to just stop falling to pieces about other people's gear choices, either or
are my only two posts
you keep attacking people who don't see the point in your piece of gear telling them they are stupid for learning the chords when they can just take the easy way out.
Do you still use training wheels?
Does your mom still do your laundry and clean your room?
Then maybe you should buy it.
>telling them they are stupid for learning the chords when they can just take the easy way out
lol that's literally the opposite of what is happening. they're telling me i'm stupid/the chordbot is stupid because i could just do it the hard way instead.
>Do you still use training wheels?
>Does your mom still do your laundry and clean your room?
>Then maybe you should buy it.
i'm only attacking people who say dumb shit like this and think they deserve a respectful reply for it
>you keep attacking people who don't see the point in your piece of gear telling them they are stupid for learning the chords when they can just take the easy way out.
seriously, go find who i attacked who didn't attack me first or where i ever called anyone stupid for learning chords
>upgrade from a 24in 1080p to a cheap chinese 42in 1080
>am able to put the monitor behind my studio monitors
>ableton looks fuck hueg, no more eye squinting
>uninterrupted stereo field
>life is good
disable the input (1) (choose either auto or off), choose the right channel
disarm the track (2)
Heads up to all the PD users out there, this modular system was just released by a single guy (!). Looks and sounds amazing.
posted an earlier version in this thread yesterday I think. I made some changes. Dunno If I want to just loop it for 2 mins like a simple beat or put some effort into making it sound like a proper song
Any recommendations on cheap 49 key full-sized MIDI keyboards?
I think 25 would be too small, and 61+ would use up too much room, but I'd like one for producing and learning piano / theory. I'm not sure if I'd like a touch sensitive one or not, I tried a friends touch sensitive one and it was kind of annoying for producing to have to press down hard all the time when I'm just trying to get some synth ideas down, but it might be beneficial for learning.
UK Hardcore is fast EDM
so get EDM packs and learn to use them at high tempos (160-180)
also electro basses are good shit for UK Hard
lrn to make those too
if you want to go harder, go to that oldskool HHC, add some saturation to the kicks and use more rave shit like that sampled lead from ELO's "So Fine"
>first date in like 3 years tonight
>all I can think about is playing with my new gear
I guess that's fair enough, I think it'd be hard to plateau with music, because if you feel like you're getting to stuck in a specific genre, sound or tools you can always change something up or go a different route. That's entirely up to you though. I'd rather be making scrubby soundcloud-core and stretching my creativity than wasting away my time fapping and playing video games like I used to do.
So, i wanted to implement guitars into my electronic music, so i hooked up my amp to my interface (Using Line instead of a dynamic mic to record the sound)
Anyone know how to get rid of the amp hissing? You never hear it on records and i never even thought about that until now.
supercollider is awesome when used as a tool for another livecoding environment, like Overtone (http://overtone.github.io/)
I'd argue that it's easier to use as a DAW than PureData, which seems more oriented to signal handling and stuff.
>not using /v/-the daw and modelling your sounds with a physics engine
hey..... I know basic music theory but how can I plan out a song and think of how to make a chord progression... where can I learn these skills I pretty much know how to use ableton.. but i know nothing about synthesis using msasive (yet) I'm interested in idm and hip hop usually I think of rhythms/beats first but it's a bad habit because I can't make a simple song without a sample... any recommendations?
any advice to get started making simple beats to practice?
Learn basic FM synthesis.
Just keep at it mang.
Keep at it.
Gating or like the other anon said Waves Noise reduction.
Yes, start messing around with EVERY knob and see what it does to and how it affects audio, soon enough you'll have an understanding of how to make shit.
Use the utility tool from the built in ableton audio effects panel and crank up the gain, but try to see if you can do it from the plugin itself, on its respective volume control knob.
>tfw I have no idea how to structure my tracks/add effects to make it sound like an actual song so I just get stuck with a loop that I never do anything with
>tfw shit at mastering
Like I've said a million times, feel the song inside you, stop thinking in terms of song structure and just get inspired and be spontaneous, structure will come by itself naturally once you have a solid idea.
Also mastering is really fucking overrated dude, just get Ozone and figure it out. Personally I use Ozone and Fab-Filter Pro-L for the loudness and everyone compliments my "loud" mixes and mastering and it just takes me 5 minutes to do it.
>To make a song you could get drunk too with friends
are you a musician already in any capacity? because this will affect the answer to this question more than anything in ableton
Depends on how musically inclined you are, what you know, don't know, how many tutorials you've seen. That kind of thing.
If everyone is drunk enough you can get away with making fart noises in the DAW and mixing it down and they wouldn't care. Just make sure it has some slapping bass and a groove you can move too.
That doesn't have to do with Ableton.It has to do with synths, samples, post-processing, whatever. If you mean how long it takes to become good at music, I'd say 2 years on average if you're really into it and have a purpose and a passion and some sort of musical background or history.
You might wanna get a few samplepacks, trying to make kicks by themselves within Ableton is really fucking hard, almost impossible, especially for someone new like you. You need to get a bunch of external VSTs like instruments and effects and some samples.
Putting me on spot, man. This kind of song has some talent involved. It's mixed very well, the beat builds on itself, has a nice build up and a clear drop, good use of samples and the synth work is pretty clean. That's not to say that the average Joe Schmoe can't make something like this, he definitely can, but it will take a few hours, and some prior knowledge. Also the way everything transitions into each other, the bridges and such are really nice. Banging tune man if this is what you're aiming for.
There's a site called Equipboard. Look up some of your favorite producers there and see what they use. There's also a site called Loopmasters which has a fuck ton of sample packs listed by genre and more.
No problem, man. Enjoy that festival. All I can really tell you is to start learning and do as much as you can ASAP. If you already have ableton, just start playing around in it. Watch some youtube tutorials. Learn how to make a drum pattern and add complimenting synths, then make multiple patterns and transition between them. It's overwhelming at first, but once you get the ropes it's pretty rewarding desu
I want to get some music production software. I've been looking at Fruity Loops Studio and was wandering if its any good.
For reference I want to make this style of music:
Why does anything i do with classical instruments is always shit on the /comp/ side?
I ried to orchestrate a bit a theme from a catholic chant i heard at a funeral and i'm very disappointed in it
Can you help me /prod/?
Hey /mu/, I was assigned a paper on a theoretical recording of a rock opera and I'm a bit lost. Is there a need to time clock-synchronize the cameras with the audio recorders?
I think I'm also supposed to record at 24/48, downsampling to 16/44.1 for CD audio shouldn't be a problem, right?
Pardon me if this isn't the right thread to ask this but I have no better idea.
Nah, don't think so mate.
Unless it's live streamed, then no, just do it afterwards.
I 'm pretty sure you can do odd time signatures on Aira, not sure about the original.
Don't know what you mean by /comp/, but pan the instruments out like they would be in an orchestra and give them realistic strength. Use doubling and trading. Mind the principles of harmony so it doesn't sound like porridge.
What to do when inspiration is just completely gone? I've been playing guitar for 20 years and recording and mixing for 5 or 6. It's just like a normal job now. I want the same feeling back as when I was 15.
Listen to a fuck ton of music, stuff outside of your comfort zone too, take walks, try to think of music when you take showers or a shit, when you're tasting new food, write all that shit down on a notepad or record it, small little melodies that might be shitty, everything.
Walking and listening to a genre of music you'e never heard before was something I was going to suggest. Like Sound Horizon.
I usually find that "young discovery" feeling by doing stuff I haven't done before... like making a piece of music whose core concept is toying with the sense of distance with panning, delays, volume etc.
>tfw I've been working with Ableton for almost a year now but still can't make a decent track for the life of me
I'm not working with any hardware, just Ableton so that may be part of the problem but everything I make just feels so lifeless and boring. I just want to make stuff like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3tyNjJzuIM and zone out and enjoy myself. Fug
i'm using the last bump we have to tell you all how stupid you are one more time
You know what I mean. For example, if I just throw Operator into a midi channel and use the default Sine wave, it changes the way my kick sounds. Why is that?
Because you're not sidechaining them.
That's what happens with music dude. The more elements you add, it masks certain frequences of the rest and makes it sound different. Progressive House kicks sound like shit by themselves but when you hear them in the full ensemble they sound good. Just an example, works that way with everything desu senpai.
he means vst synths
there's not much in your price range though. the volcas, the pocket operators, the monotrons... shit doesn't get too exciting til a couple hundred dollars later.
Do these drums sound "right"? I'm still new to producing and I'm trying to ease into it by focusing on one element at a time (drums, synthesis, effects, mastering, etc) rather than diving into all of it at once