/prod/ Music Production General

Y'all got any more of them VST's? Preferably drums. mega?

dammit lol this happens every time i post a /prod/.
i'll let mine die but you guys should check out the thing i was posting about in it, the chordbot
>>61815397

i need a sampler that can be used without a computer, something around 150 to 250 euro, no korg volca samples, im looking for something similair to sp404 and an mpc

>>61815802
maybe that's what's killing them. gtfo out of my thread, you're gonna kill this one too

>>61816012
the fuck are you crying about? are you one of the "le /prod/ is le dead" idiots?

>>61815991
If you don't mind keyboards you could get a Roland W30, but I don't know how easy to find one would be where you live.

>>61816059
>Roland W3
seems nice but i think it'd be a pain in the ass to use live

>>61815991
Like the other guy said you can look for an old sampler keyboard, but honestly I would just stick with a computer and save up for an mpc since the sampler/sequencer will be one of the core pieces in a computerless setup.

>>61816121
you're really trying to have your cake and eat it too for the price range you're going for

>tfw you will never hang out with your friends and produce like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PxFjbgNeVg

Is it possible to send synth signal into granulizer?

>>61816560
it's possible to send anything to anything

does it matter if i use 512 or 1024 buffer side on asio other than performance because i cant hear any changes?

https://clyp.it/cd2yvgrl

Any recs? Something is off and I can hear it but I don't know how to fix

>>61816695
needs eqing

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Logic has the worst metering. -18db in digital, is supposed to be equivalent to 0db analog, is at the bottom 90% of the meter. After that it's just hot as fuck and the resolution seems less accurate since the scale is so scewed.

Other than that, it's a fine program for writing or tracking. I don't use it for mixing.

>>61816730
Does this sound any better? I have a shit ear for mastering
https://clyp.it/es10yees

Anyone got a dl for syntorial?

>>61816889
thats why i do gain staging to the extreme in my logic projects

>>61816578
Must be the vst then, thanks

where to get good drum samples? or should i just fuck with what i've got and eq the shit out of it?
starting to make deep house/minimal type shit

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>>61817332
It was a last resort because reaper wasn't recognizing my board and i didn't have internet to hunt drivers down. Had to plug in and go. I wish i could just use protools without lugging around an interface that gets recognized by digi and that dumb ilok.

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>>61815352
>setting plugins to high cpu mode/high oversampling modes before bouncing the final mix
why do i love this feel?

>>61817464
You take whatever drumsamples you have and alter them until you like it. Use compression, eq, distortion or whatever you can think of to add some character to your sounds. Then export it so you can easily use it in future projects

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Soundcraft SI is also a shit. The Q knob adjusts width backwards compared to every other board I've used. Only 14 faders on one layer so you have to switch between two layers for the last two channels if you use all the inputs. The same applies for the 32 version of the board. Also, to multitrack out of it, you have to buy their expansion cards to use usb or firewire. It's overpriced for the range of audio quality and features compared to it's competition.

I need mixing advice. Everything either sounds too loud or too muddy. Any pointers?

https://clyp.it/p33yhzo5

>>61817880
>>61816889
>>61817486

I'm admittedly more an engineer than "producer" so....

Is any of this relevant or am i just shit posting? Feel free to ask questions or talk shit about gear with me.

>>61817153
it's a bit better, but i'd kill the resonance of that high pitched feedback-sounding synth/sample/whatever it is, it's pretty harsh to listen to

lol i can't figure out how to actually use harmor or sytrus and i want to fucking kill myself hahahahaa :) :) :) :) i tinker around with them but just make really shitty sounds always or it just sounds like a tacky shitty preset

>>61816616
nobody?also meant buffer size*

>>61818190
They are both gay as fuck, just use 3x osc or others vsts

>>61818242
>>61816616

Doesn't matter if you don't mind the small delay

>>61818242

Audio buffer is just a bucket for your audio stream, all changing the size does is, well...change its size. It doesn't do anything to the quality of audio that's held in it.

Where it does make a difference is, as you say, performance. A bigger bucket takes longer to fill and adds latency to your response time but that's all.

>>61818256
i use dx10 but its really really basic. 3x osc is too basic as well

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Roland SP-404 vs. Roland SP-404sx?

Pretty sure im gonna get one of these, but which one? I make some sort of weird lofi hip hop beat music.

I'm mainly gonna use it for production but is it any useful for live performances as well?

>>61818422
404 speech time

you can sample at a specified tempo, but not resample at one. so when you're resampling or sampling at a non-specified tempo it will display a whole number as the tempo but there is actually a decimal point you can't see, so loops that say they're the same tempo can go out of sync. you can't record a new sample while another sample is playing (no playing a synth or drums or whatever over a sample and recording it onto a pad). you can only resample up to 4 samples at once, 2 if they're in stereo, and you can't resample a recorded pattern, only playing in real time. the start and endpoint knobs only do fine adjustments of like 100ms, other than that you have to play the sample through and hit the marker button to mark start and end points or exit and re-enter the start/end point menu to keep using the knobs to take off another 100ms. there's also no sampling across multiple pads or dividing an existing sample across multiple pads, so you would have to do what i just mentioned with a longer sample you recorded and keep duplicating it to new pads, unless you were going to stop the audio on whatever you were sampling from and restart it every time you recorded a new sample (also if you were to do this, it forgets the tempo you specified for each new sample). other than that, the pitch and timeshifting just never really sounded that great to me.

>>61818422
also if that doesn't deter you, the only difference between them is the sx has some extra effects, uses wav format instead of some weird custom one roland made, is slightly faster apparently, and has a worse vinyl sim than the og (although i have the sx and dpon't really mind the vinyl sim)

>>61818242
For recording use the fastest setting, aka 128 or less to reduce latency and help play in time without a delay betweem input and what you hear. For mixing, max it out, aka 1024+, to use the most of your cpu to accurately process the signal without it getting choppy or completely failing to play back. More tracks and more plug-ins require more to process.

>>61818533
what's the difference between SX vinyl sim and OG vinyl sim?

>>61818715
i dont actually know, i've just seen people in the spforums and other places saying it sounds better

>>61818745
I've heard that too. I also wonder how much faster the SX is, might be insignificant.

>>61816889
>-18db in digital, is supposed to be equivalent to 0db analog, is at the bottom 90% of the meter
what does this mean?

>>61818810
probably, i can't even really think of anything besides duplicating samples or truncating them that relies on how fast it is

>>61817880
>i read gearslutz and make shit up

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>>61818958
Lol I'm using one right now suck my ass

>>61819393
>b-but everything on le internet is FAEK

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>>61818893
>>61818893
Read about dBfs and how they came up with it.

I was saying 90% of the meter as in it's physical location, not the amount of actual signal.

My fader here is at 0db, but -18 is not any where near it. Was just saying the scale is off.

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https://clyp.it/tix34xlw
Any mixing tips?
The progressions are not completed etc.

>>61815380
pls help

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https://clyp.it/ud4h1vup
been working on this for a few days, but I just completely changed the drums and some other things. any thoughts on this?

anybody sat in any herman miller chairs? aeron is out of the question but i've seen some reasonably priced task chairs and some of their other models

>>61820725
comfy

I've spent the past two days working on this one. Any suggestions?

https://clyp.it/eemeqqvk

I'm on an old laptop with a shitty onboard sound card and i wanna produce some music. What do i need to spend more on/What's more important: Audio interface or monitors?
I own the Teufel Magnum E Concept 5.1 Power Edition, but i guess they suck for mixing and stuff.

>>61821681
Get a new laptop and some cheap AKG consumer headphones.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CGHNJpHndE

did you guys all just not bother opening up the other thread i made or do you really all just not care about this thing?

>>61822862
Yeah, probably the latter.

>>61823009
i dont see why though, it's like cthulhu but better and in hardware form. are we all just keyboard virtuosos now?

>>61823046
I can't speak for everyone, but I wouldn't give up my keyboard desu senpai.

>>61819893
That is a fine looking chair

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>>61823076

>>61823074
neither would i, but i would want this to add to my hardware setup or maybe even to use with my daw instead of loading up ableton's chord tool or cthulhu (which this looks better than either of)

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>>61823199

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>>61823232

>>61823220
I don't feel the need to "chordify" when I can just draw the chord manually on the piano roll and have more control over the notes.

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bump

>>61822862
That thing looks like shit and the buttons are way too small. Stop shilling so obvious.

>>61825220
>XD MEMEZ
it's okay children, you don't need to cry every time you're not in the target demographic

>>61825269
why do you care so much about the fact that nobody cared about that chord machine

>>61825312
because it's a thing that i found interesting? also
>care so much
i made a single post acknowledging the fact that nobody acknowledged it lol

>>61825376
>i made a single post acknowledging the fact that nobody acknowledged it
>a single
>>61823046
>>61823220
>>61825269
>>61825376
lmfao

>>61825516
the single post was this one stupid >>61822862, those were replies to somebody else

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I want off this ride.

>>61825609
refer to >>61825312
>why do you care so much about the fact that nobody cared about that chord machine

because obviously you did care, otherwise you wouldn't be vehemently trying to get people to find some reason to care about it like in
>>61823046
and
>>61823220
if those are the reasons you like it and want it, fine, those are valid reasons, but then to go and try to insult a person for not liking the product>>61825269 is ridiculous, and what's even more hilarious is the fact that you claim to not care at all about the whole thing

holy fucking teenagers lol
>>61826013
>vehemently trying to get people to find some reason to care about it
you mean calmly stating why i thought it was a cool thing? not quite sure how you could confuse the two
>try to insult a person for not liking the product
i insulted him for calling me a shill and just generally being immature about seeing something he didn't like
>claim to not care at all about the whole thing
nope lol i'm not one of the kids here who tries to be all cool and detached by not caring about stuff. i admitted that i thought it was cool, i'm arguing against the notion that i "care so much" like that's some kind of bad thing, sorry that you take my mild confusion/disappointment at people's lack of interest as some kind of confrontational thing.

>>61820758
Lived like 20 minutes from where they make their chairs, have say in many varieties, every single on of them is outlandishly comfy.
Too bad their are priced equally outlandishly.
Dat Aeron chair is fucking heaven though.

>>61826265
yea that's what I thought

>>61826373
great post

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>>61825987
So this is day 3.

I've had a 3-piece basement band with some friends for about a year.

We practice once a week, so most of the time I'm playing alone. I started playing with some loop pedals and running around playing different shit, but I was getting bored of it and it's very limiting.

So I bought an MBP, Ableton, Push, Scarlett 18i20, etc...

I'm terrified that this is going to consume me and/or I will never make anything worth listening to.

Someone tell me it's going to be ok.

>>61826387
likewise, all of your posts are :^)

>>61826508
if only i had not cared about a thing you didn't like, we could've avoided all of this

>>61826571
if only

Enough with the toxic bullshit already.

Can a non-poor /prod/ person buy the korg minilogue and do a preset and patch rundown

>>61815352
anyone actually working professionally as a producer or engineer?

how the fuck did you do it?

>>61828202
There's a lot of YouTube reviews that shit is even out yet dude

>>61821681
I'd buy monitors, not headphones. Even cheap monitors. Then use your onboard sound, it's fine. The difference with onboard vs professional sound cards is mostly latency, in/out options, and sound quality is the smallest difference.

Just make sure you don't have any sound card driver "enhancements" enabled, or have it use the generic Windows HD Audio driver and it'll sound fine.

That 5.1 system you have will be bad for monitoring, just get a 2 channel system designed for mixing. Mackie, Presonus, etc. have good cheap ones.

>>61821681
>>61829966
If you're planning recording guitar or using anything better than a shitty USB mic I would suggest getting a sound card or standalone interface.

>>61816695
I'd say this is really solid, I cannot provide you with advice (noob) but I dig it.
>>61820725
chill af, maybe some dainty synth arpeggios would sound cool
>>61821111
definitely needs a little processing on the drums, and the clap is a bit quiet, but I love the beat when it comes in

Here is my first fuckery in a DAW. I'm coming from an only hardware setup and mainly just using samples for this, but for what it's worth I feel confident enough to post it here. Criticism appreciated.
https://clyp.it/wx5rhhuq

>>61825987
>tfw considering making a production school in my country

T-there's work for producers / sound engineers right?

>>61830632
If it's any consolation my audio professor who works at my school said there's a lot of miscellaneous audio jobs out there for people who know how to work something as simple Audacity. Apparently he got some work making samples, for lack of a better word, of a scientist defining different parts of a cell or something.

>>61826446
manifest what you want to achieve. put in countless hours of research, troubleshooting, and labor. don't ever give up. get your music to the standards of quality you expect to hear when listening to music.

>>61825376
>>61822862
Look at polyplayground app by Mike Gao if you have a tablet.

>>61831986
i only have an android tablet

so where do I get my torrents from if I can't find a particular one I'm looking for?

I tried my sites already rutraker piratebay kickass I event went to audioz

I'm looking for a preset pack vandalism's shockng deep house

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How do you make effects on a track constantly change as a producer? I think i saw it in ableton once, where guy basically had nodes all over his track and could change parameter of the effects on the track constantly. I don't know how to get into that.

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>>61833282
Do you mean automations?

>>61832270
Damn

>>61833282
>I don't know how to get into that.

Do you have Ableton? Read the fucking book and look up automation.

>>61816505
>never produce like this

Fucking good. This degenerate shit is what's currently over-saturating shows.

>ay mang how we gonna make dis song
>just twerk up dat bass and slap a limiter on it
>shieeeeeeeet

>>61822862
....So what is just putting cords on a fucking drum rack.

Holy shit I hope no one is actually stupid enough to by this.

I know how to use synthesiser and am trained in theory, but i have no idea how to make drums digitally? is the majority of it sample based or something? Using ableton if that means anything

i want to kill myself

>>61834043

Ableton's defaults are notoriously shit, just fyi. You use Ableton for it's freedom of creation, not it's standard instruments.

> is the majority of it sample based or something?

50/50; I personally use Battery for most of my shit. Most common method is just stacking multiple layers of kicks and tweaking around until you have a sound you like.

Other thing you can do is start looking at synth kicks; what's nice about those is that they are easy to tune.

If you are trying to make a drum sound absolutely from scratch, and only currently have Ableton's default instruments, then messing around with Operator is going to be your best bet, or just messing around with the prebuilt drumracks, like the 808 kit.

>>61834043
What type of drum sounds? I usually download raw sample packs. This site has a ton of them but you have to pay to download everything.

http://samples.kb6.de/downloads.php

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>>61823199
>>61823261
lawnchairs 2bh

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>>61828202
As soon as they start selling in Brazil, that's the plan.

>>61829786
By not having a life and being incredibly business-driven. Yesterday I had two original minutes of a three minute track scrapped because the client changed his mind on what he wanted on the base for the track and I did two new minutes with different instruments and arrangement based on the new specifications that were approved. On a Sunday, yes.

That's not an unusual occurrence, so if you're going down this path, it helps to be prepared to live doing this kind of thing a lot. I had less than 7 days off in 2015 and am hoping I'll have at least today off to finish a track I started in November.

>>61817955
Check out RecordingRevolution on Youtube. He talk a lot about how to clean up mixes.

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>>61833282
>just discovering automation
good times, goooood times.

in other news, i think i'm tone deaf and all my shit is actually completely out of tune. i should've just learned theory instead of writing by ear

Anyone have a download link for the Korg M1 VST? I think it's called Legacy or something like that.

Thank you in advance.

>>61835927
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5002283

sooo i need a sampler with pads without having to use a computer what's the cheapest (150-250euro) thing for me?

>>61836230
Used Launchpad from eBay.

>>61836294
>without computer

>>61836327
Sorry, try MPC Studio.

>>61836386
>WITHOUT COMPUTER

>>61836399
MPC 500

I need some critique

https://clyp.it/lig55mi0

>>61836230
>>61836327
>>61836399
why u prejudiced against the computer mayne

>>61836230
lol why do you think you're gonna find some magical sampler that ticks all of your boxes for that price?

http://lofi.hiphop

>>61835927
legacy is the bundle that it comes in, includes the m1, wavestation, monopoly, polysix, ms20, and mde-x which is a pretty decent multi-effects vst

>>61833982
>So what is just putting cords on a fucking drum rack.
except not at all, why does the chordbot piss off stupid people so much? lol

>>61822862
seems kinda pointless 2bh. just play the chords yourself or use chord memory

>>61837408
>just play the chords yourself
do you guys think that everybody is good at keyboard and can just play any chord at will? i really don't get why so many people are trying to say this thing is stupid and useless instead of just realizing it's not made for people like them lol
>chord memory
you mean the ability to recall a single chord instead of have a bunch of them readily available? yeah, that's totally comparable lol

>>61837482
Just take the time to learn chords man, shouldn't take that long and you'll feel vindicated once you know how to do it and have the freedom to layer everything the way you want it.

I just installed Ableton 64 bits on W8.1 and made a custom VST folder, put in 64 bit VSTs in it and none of them appear. I've tried re-installing live too but nothing happens.

Help me please, this is driving me crazy and I can't find any solutions online.

>>61837669
Are you locating this custom folder within Ableton's preferences?

>>61837669
Are they vst3? Ableton can't load vst3

>>61837713
Yes I have.

>>61837718
No they're not.

>>61837746
are the actual .dll or shortcuts of them on that folder?

>>61837778
I cut the original .dll and placed them there.

>>61836489
Pretty cool and convincing, but there's something that happens in the melody where it feels like you're killing the other instruments with too much side-chaining. Check that out. Maybe make it so all the instruments "pop out" more, like, exaggerate a little, like an actor would do on stage to reach the audience at the back.

>>61837795
No, create shortcuts of the .dll's and put them in there it doesn't work like that.

>>61837820
Okay so I just tried this. Still doesn't work.

>>61837597
>shouldn't take that long
to learn all 36 of those chord types and get good enough at playing each that it would be as fast as just using this thing? that seems unlikely

>>61837940
Take a picture of your VST folder please, and show me the folder location within Ableton.

>>61837991
Not with that mentality.

https://clyp.it/vkylrrp5
I wrote this because Im sad, tell me how shit I am

>>61838029
lol what mentality? being realistic?

>>61838046
It's not that bad, although it's not of high quality. But I like your ideas, especially the syncopated castanet-like sound. You could totally make a piece of music that used this kind of erratic "fuck you" unpredictable patterns if you did some focused brain-storming about it.

>>61838081
No, being lazy to learn.

>>61837482
>do you guys think that everybody is good at keyboard and can just play any chord at will?
It's called practice. It's obvious that not every producer is able to play the keyboard, but every producer can learn to play the keyboard
>>61837991
>to learn all 36 of those chord types and get good enough at playing each that it would be as fast as just using this thing? that seems unlikely
Most music is made up of fifths, major and minor chords. You really won't need to use more unless you get into jazz/classical material, but the advanced chords you are most likely to use aren't even that complex

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>>61838029
Like this you mean?

I know it says "This PC" but even if I set it to there it still comes up as my username.

As you can see, I tried with a shortcut and by copying the .dll and none of them worked.

>>61838099
nope, it's actually just being realistic. i know how good at keyboard i am and the rate i learn at lol.
>>61838124
holy shit lol what is going on this thread? why is this community of primarily electronic musicians balking at the thought of somebody wanting to automate part of the process? i'm glad you people don't run the companies that build these things or we'd never get anything cool made lol

>>61838081
The way you think about it affects how well you do. If you're pessimistic, your brain will always be reluctant to use resources. If you're optimistic, your brain will, like a body of water, quickly find the best and quickest ways to approach problems.

I had your mentality toward mixing when I started out, and it went really slow. But now, 6 months later, I already know what all the plugins can do and I feel in control of my DAW and can use it creatively for problem-solving.

Start with major and minor through some basic music theory site, and then move on to sevenths and sus4/2 chords. When you feel you've mastered them, the rest will come a LOT easier.

Always use multiple sources, as they will compliment eachother and maybe give you some crucial information that makes a concept click for you.

Play everything you learn to get it in your hands and in your ears.

Take frequent breaks and naps. You'd be amazed at how clear-headed you become after 20 minutes in a dark room. Sometimes when I've practiced guitar for an hour and have cursed because I wasn't able to pull of a certain technique and taken a nap, I've been able to pull it off flawlessly right afterwards. A human body works in mysterious ways.

>>61838135
I don't mean that when I told you to make a shortcut. I mean keep the .dll's with the rest of the files where they originally installed and just make a short and put only the shortcut on the folder.

>>61838157
It's all about the mentality senpai, but just know that you're using excuses that limit yourself.

Also this
>>61838171

>>61838216
>using excuses that limit yourself.
using tools that expand the possibilities of what i can accomplish at my current skill level*

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>>61838256
Hammondfag reporting in.

I had a chord organ. I burned it. Why are you so invested in something that people thought was for kids in the 70s

>>61838256
If you intend to keep learning then I guess you're right. However you'll feel vindicated once you actually have the knowledge.

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>>61838216
>I don't mean that when I told you to make a shortcut. I mean keep the .dll's with the rest of the files where they originally installed and just make a short and put only the shortcut on the folder.

Like a directory shortcut? And then put the directory shortcut in my custom VST folder? (Pic related)

I have to mention that I've been using Live 8 up until I got this new laptop, which is when I upgraded to 9. With 8 I never had any problems installing VSTs.

>>61838296
you're right, i SHOULD let what people thought about hammonds fucking 40 years ago influence my purchases.

this conversation is bringing out ALL the smartest people lol

>>61838310
Forgot to say that this method didn't work either.

>>61838310
No, I don't mean that either, I mean just make a shortcut of the .dll ON the original directory and ONLY put that on your custom folder.

>>61838346
>make a shortcut of the .dll
not that guy, but i've been copying the .dll's all this time

am i just wasting a bunch of space doing that? lol

>>61838317
Naw, it wasn't a Hammond. It was one of those corny home organ things.

Hammonds actually require you to play the black and white things.

>>61838371
Yes, you can just make shortcuts and it'll work.

>>61838406
huh... good to know

>>61838371
If you look at the image I posted in >>61838135 you can see that I posted a shortcut of the M1.dll there and that didn't work either.

Like >>61838371 said, I've always copied the .dll's into the VST folder and it's never been an issue. I have a feeling that it's nothing to do with how I'm placing them, but something else.

>>61838467
Show pic of original M1 directory.

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>>61838494

>>61838511
>program files (x86)
it is actually the 64 bit version, right?

>>61837816
Thanks for the critique mane, I needed that.

>>61838046
It actually sounds like a pretty cool interlude on an album.

>>61838554
That.

>>61838554
Yes it is.

>>61838653
So you're just copying the M1.dll or its shortcut on the custom folder right?

>>61838554
Okay I figured it out. It was my mistake.

I had been grabbing the .dll from the Korg M1 directory but there was a second .dll in a file called Vstplugins in Program Files, which now appears in Live.

Still can't find out how to fix Massive but maybe that's a similar issue.

Thank you for all the help any way.

https://clyp.it/yustmo1r
I don't know what to do with this, I only took random samples from random music videos on youtube and it ended up like this. Oh and the drum kick is the very first kick from Idioteque.

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So, Converse Sample Library made a M4L plugin that has cloud support to fuck with their samples and such. I tried to download it and give it a shot, but it seems my Live 9 Suite doesn't have max installed or it wanted me to sign in. I'm a pirate fag at the moment so I wanted to ask how I could get around this and use M4L?

>>61838918
Go to the Max website and download it.

>>61838973

I apologize for shitting up the thread with such an easy question, but thank you very much anon.

>>61838317
I have a chord organ like the other guy it was the dumbest idea I've ever had

I bought it JUST so I can play Memory Of a Free Festival because that's the instrument I think bowie used (some garbage reed organ) so I bought something similar. It looks cool I guess though.

Just learn all the chords don't be a little bitch buying a $500 crutch that will play the chords for you

And no I'd say most people here only know all the major/minor chords and need to look up the trickier chords

>>61839259
>I bought it JUST so I can play Memory Of a Free Festival
you're right, that is dumb.
>$500
supposed to be less than $250 but far be it from all of you to not reach for reasons to dislike this thing, apparently. lol
>Just learn all the chords
lol i bet you're all the people who call sampling "stealing" and have other ass-backwards old-man opinions about making music

>>61839388
How are you going to utilize the chords on that device if you don't know the notes that make up the chord? Are you going to look it up every chord or play blindly until something fits?

>>61839469
>How are you going to utilize the chords on that device if you don't know the notes that make up the chord?
by pressing the buttons and making chords happen?

holy shit are you people ever mad about this thing that you aren't going to buy lol

>>61839521
so, as the anon said, you are just going to randomly press buttons until you find something that kinda works?

wow I'm sure you're on your way to making 5-star tracks just as soon as you buy that chord machine.

>>61839550
yes... you are aware that this is already a thing that people have been doing, right? have you not heard of cthulhu?

also feel free to post your 5 star tracks... or to just stop falling to pieces about other people's gear choices, either or

>>61839589
these
>>61839550
>>61839388
are my only two posts

you keep attacking people who don't see the point in your piece of gear telling them they are stupid for learning the chords when they can just take the easy way out.

Do you still use training wheels?
Does your mom still do your laundry and clean your room?

Then maybe you should buy it.

>>61839691
>telling them they are stupid for learning the chords when they can just take the easy way out
lol that's literally the opposite of what is happening. they're telling me i'm stupid/the chordbot is stupid because i could just do it the hard way instead.
>>61839691
>Do you still use training wheels?
>Does your mom still do your laundry and clean your room?
>Then maybe you should buy it.
i'm only attacking people who say dumb shit like this and think they deserve a respectful reply for it

>>61839691
>you keep attacking people who don't see the point in your piece of gear telling them they are stupid for learning the chords when they can just take the easy way out.
seriously, go find who i attacked who didn't attack me first or where i ever called anyone stupid for learning chords

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JUST

>>61840574
what are you doing man? space is really cheap now.

Amateur producer here.

Any videos/lessons on how to get that amazing sample based sound that Jdilla, madlib, Nujabes have? Preferably for FL Studio?

>>61840679
i dont know how much it can really be taught, it's kind of just a matter of learning what to sample

>>61840679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AODQyVbMssE

>>61840713
I understand. Thanks

>>61840717
Will check out.

>>61840679

Sample anything and everything, eventually you'll gain an ear for what sounds good, also learn how to chop your shit up nice and good.

anyone know of any free, quality UK hardcore sample packs? Been getting really into hardcore lately tb honest

>>61840623
Macbook senpai...

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>>61841125
should have gotten a thinkpad

>upgrade from a 24in 1080p to a cheap chinese 42in 1080
>am able to put the monitor behind my studio monitors
>ableton looks fuck hueg, no more eye squinting
>uninterrupted stereo field
>life is good

Guys why can't I gat the treacks I record to play in ableton? i can hear them through the speakers when i record but not playback

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>>61841466
disable the input (1) (choose either auto or off), choose the right channel
disarm the track (2)

>>61841125
how old is your macbook that you only have 120.14 gigs?

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why do all my beats sound like dogshit send help

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Heads up to all the PD users out there, this modular system was just released by a single guy (!). Looks and sounds amazing.

http://www.monologx.com/ecosystem/

>>61841569
>game with hundreds of thousands of players
>only a few hundred make a living off of it
>sad that you're not one yet (and you're prbably like 22)

https://clyp.it/1lm1i1pj
posted an earlier version in this thread yesterday I think. I made some changes. Dunno If I want to just loop it for 2 mins like a simple beat or put some effort into making it sound like a proper song

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>>61841579
>PD

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>>61841546
thanks a ton

>>61841579
>Heads up to all the PD users out there,
yeah all 3 of you

>>61832566
private trackers
good luck

Any recommendations on cheap 49 key full-sized MIDI keyboards?

I think 25 would be too small, and 61+ would use up too much room, but I'd like one for producing and learning piano / theory. I'm not sure if I'd like a touch sensitive one or not, I tried a friends touch sensitive one and it was kind of annoying for producing to have to press down hard all the time when I'm just trying to get some synth ideas down, but it might be beneficial for learning.

>>61832566
Get on what.cd.
yes the interview is hard.
yes you must put some effort into seeding.
yes it's worth your while.

Help my music fucking sucks

>>61841579

wow that's incredible. thanks

>>61841125
UK Hardcore is fast EDM
so get EDM packs and learn to use them at high tempos (160-180)
also electro basses are good shit for UK Hard
lrn to make those too
if you want to go harder, go to that oldskool HHC, add some saturation to the kicks and use more rave shit like that sampled lead from ELO's "So Fine"

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>first date in like 3 years tonight
>all I can think about is playing with my new gear

>>61841904

>Invite her over
>Have a drink or two with her and ask her if she wants to make a song with you

Now you can have your cake and eat it too!

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>>61841846
Have you tried adding more reverb?

>>61815380
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2010/09/27/bpb-freeware-studio-coolest-free-drum-machine-vsti-plugins/

>>61841817
what brand was your friend's? you shouldn't have to press down that hard on touch sensitive keys, are you sure they weren't weighted/semi-weighted?

>>61841569
>>61841846

Patience my brothers, we'll all make it one day.

Not make it as in fame, that's impossible, but we'll make it as in make some damn good music one day.

>>61841936
I don't think I'm that into her. I'm just trying to force myself out of /cocoon/ mode.

>>61841980
I used to think this, but then I got really paranoid about plateauing at like a devientart equivalent of music if that makes sense.

>>61842107

I guess that's fair enough, I think it'd be hard to plateau with music, because if you feel like you're getting to stuck in a specific genre, sound or tools you can always change something up or go a different route. That's entirely up to you though. I'd rather be making scrubby soundcloud-core and stretching my creativity than wasting away my time fapping and playing video games like I used to do.

>>61841579
>PD users
>users
>ers
>s

thanks anon

>>61841650

I was going to post something mean in response but this thread is full of pointless bickering as it is already, and you're probably right. Have a nice day.

>>61842845
i thought it was cool though I have seen screenshots of the other thing you guys use and it looks like /g/-The DAW

>>61842872
>/g/-The DAW
/g/ here. that'd be supercollider.
PD is more like a poor man's Max

>>61842914
supercollider seems like a gentoo-style meme

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So, i wanted to implement guitars into my electronic music, so i hooked up my amp to my interface (Using Line instead of a dynamic mic to record the sound)

Anyone know how to get rid of the amp hissing? You never hear it on records and i never even thought about that until now.

>>61843011
>gentoo
install it

supercollider is awesome when used as a tool for another livecoding environment, like Overtone (http://overtone.github.io/)
I'd argue that it's easier to use as a DAW than PureData, which seems more oriented to signal handling and stuff.

>>61843104
Fuck with your various gains.

Are you connecting in the effects loop?

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>>61842872
>/g/-The DAW
>not using /v/-the daw and modelling your sounds with a physics engine

>>61841617
bump

>>61841617
I liked beans better. This doesn't do anything for me.

>>61841617
it's pretty meh t b h f a m

i wish i was samiyam. his beats are fucking perfect

>>61843208
Is this usine ? I played a bit with the demo a while ago, it was fun

>>61843362
im not really into samiyam except for a couple of tracks. I like flylo, teebs, GLK and all those guys' music better

>>61843383
ill start listening to them. always want some inspiration lmao

>>61843244
this "beans" >>61820725 or the one I posted even earlier (in another thread)?

>>61843247
im sorry

>>61843425
The one with the sample of the guy saying beans

hey..... I know basic music theory but how can I plan out a song and think of how to make a chord progression... where can I learn these skills I pretty much know how to use ableton.. but i know nothing about synthesis using msasive (yet) I'm interested in idm and hip hop usually I think of rhythms/beats first but it's a bad habit because I can't make a simple song without a sample... any recommendations?

any advice to get started making simple beats to practice?

>>61843511
oh thats the oldest one then. I have the project for that version (thank you "save new version") and I was actually thinking about making it into two separate tracks

>>61843136

I hear a lot of good things about supercollider, will have to try it out sometime.

>>61842914

PD is more deep level and wild west than max which some people prefer

>>61843104
Try wave arts noise reduction vst

>>61841125
Learn basic FM synthesis.

>>61841569
Just keep at it mang.

>>61841817
Alesis Q49

>>61841846
Keep at it.

>>61843104
Gating or like the other anon said Waves Noise reduction.

>>61843512
Yes, start messing around with EVERY knob and see what it does to and how it affects audio, soon enough you'll have an understanding of how to make shit.

>>61843370
yeah. It's fun but the docs are awful

>>61843512
You could check out the chordbot I was posting about earlier, apparently liking it makes you literally Hitler though

>>61815352
In ableton how do I make an audio track and a midi track play at the same time? When I create them both only one plays

>>61844404
Not play, you mean perform, just hold control and click the record button on each individual channel you want.

>>61844503
Thanks, also my midi is really quiet regardless of the volume? How do I get it on par with audio in terms of noise?

>>61844617
Use the utility tool from the built in ableton audio effects panel and crank up the gain, but try to see if you can do it from the plugin itself, on its respective volume control knob.

>tfw I have no idea how to structure my tracks/add effects to make it sound like an actual song so I just get stuck with a loop that I never do anything with
>tfw shit at mastering

https://clyp.it/xle1mpmy

>>61844829
23 seconds and I almost didn't make it to the end. I'm sorry.

Aside from that, do you understand the basic elements of song structure?

>>61844829
Like I've said a million times, feel the song inside you, stop thinking in terms of song structure and just get inspired and be spontaneous, structure will come by itself naturally once you have a solid idea.
Also mastering is really fucking overrated dude, just get Ozone and figure it out. Personally I use Ozone and Fab-Filter Pro-L for the loudness and everyone compliments my "loud" mixes and mastering and it just takes me 5 minutes to do it.

>>61815352
How long does ableton take to learn honestly? To make a song you could get drunk too with friends

>>61844992
Ableton by itself shouldn't take too long, a week tops, that's excluding all the VSTs and shit, I'm just talking about the built in functions.

>>61845055
seems quite overwhelming at first mate, like how do kicks come into the equation from the beat how do you do just one single kick?

>>61844992
>To make a song you could get drunk too with friends
are you a musician already in any capacity? because this will affect the answer to this question more than anything in ableton

>>61844992
Depends on how musically inclined you are, what you know, don't know, how many tutorials you've seen. That kind of thing.

If everyone is drunk enough you can get away with making fart noises in the DAW and mixing it down and they wouldn't care. Just make sure it has some slapping bass and a groove you can move too.

>>61845102
So what determines something to be actually talented?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqKYJOmaGNk Where does the talent lay in this for example?

>>61845078
That doesn't have to do with Ableton.It has to do with synths, samples, post-processing, whatever. If you mean how long it takes to become good at music, I'd say 2 years on average if you're really into it and have a purpose and a passion and some sort of musical background or history.

>>61845160
Which are included in ableton? Can you explain in simpleton for me, I've never really looked into this but I really would love to start

>>61845199
You might wanna get a few samplepacks, trying to make kicks by themselves within Ableton is really fucking hard, almost impossible, especially for someone new like you. You need to get a bunch of external VSTs like instruments and effects and some samples.

what should i do with this
https://clyp.it/zk1cegde

>>61845286
Great thank you, where can I get these?

>>61845294
Delete it

>>61845148

Putting me on spot, man. This kind of song has some talent involved. It's mixed very well, the beat builds on itself, has a nice build up and a clear drop, good use of samples and the synth work is pretty clean. That's not to say that the average Joe Schmoe can't make something like this, he definitely can, but it will take a few hours, and some prior knowledge. Also the way everything transitions into each other, the bridges and such are really nice. Banging tune man if this is what you're aiming for.

>>61845294

This is shit bro, but it's better than what I can make so I won't knock ya.

>>61845385
Cheers for your help man, I'll stick to this seems overwhelming but interesting. off to see this guy in a couple of weeks

should I buy this /mu/?

I need a drum machine and a sequencer and this does both (only have a korg volca beats and it can only play stuff written in 4/4 time (or multiples of 4))

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>>61845444
forgot image lol

>>61845311
There's a site called Equipboard. Look up some of your favorite producers there and see what they use. There's also a site called Loopmasters which has a fuck ton of sample packs listed by genre and more.

>>61845444
Forgot pic?

>>61845472
Yes! I love the Roland TR-8.

>>61845432
No problem, man. Enjoy that festival. All I can really tell you is to start learning and do as much as you can ASAP. If you already have ableton, just start playing around in it. Watch some youtube tutorials. Learn how to make a drum pattern and add complimenting synths, then make multiple patterns and transition between them. It's overwhelming at first, but once you get the ropes it's pretty rewarding desu

>>61845055
I've had ableton for about a week and I know enough to be obnoxious.

>>61845545
Bring it on man. Fuck I'll just drop my skype here anthony.anadiotis (probably not the wisest idea but whatever) and I'll help everyone out with Ableton.

I want to get some music production software. I've been looking at Fruity Loops Studio and was wandering if its any good.
For reference I want to make this style of music:
https://youtu.be/bCaw_26Z2BU

>>61841579
holy hell this is amazing

>>61845600
yes, FL is absolutely amazing go ahead, not only does it have amazing features, but the synths and effects are the top shit too!

Why does anything i do with classical instruments is always shit on the /comp/ side?
I ried to orchestrate a bit a theme from a catholic chant i heard at a funeral and i'm very disappointed in it
Can you help me /prod/?

https://clyp.it/gbjkost4

>>61845698
Try to think of the arrangement realistically, like with a limited amount of performers and how you'd composer it on paper. That's what instruments should serve.

>>61845424
what about it do you think is shit?
i been getting some more feedback and some ppl been saying the 303 line is a bit to hectic,

>>61845669
I was using the free trial version today. Just kind of fiddling with it. I found it hard to navigate. Is it just a matter of getting used to it?

>>61845738

But that's what i tried to do

>>61845496
you can change the number of beats per measure right?

>>61845600
yea FL is used by a bunch of famous guys across genres. It's pretty easy to get into it quick compared to other DAWs imo

>>61845754
Absolutely man.

>>61845788
It doesn't sound bad or anything, but then there's the issue of sample library quality and treatment.

>>61845802
What do you mean?

Ayy, is it possible to do 3/4 or 7/4 time etc on a SP-404?

Hey /mu/, I was assigned a paper on a theoretical recording of a rock opera and I'm a bit lost. Is there a need to time clock-synchronize the cameras with the audio recorders?
I think I'm also supposed to record at 24/48, downsampling to 16/44.1 for CD audio shouldn't be a problem, right?

Pardon me if this isn't the right thread to ask this but I have no better idea.

>>61845830
>>61845892
Thanks alot for the advice guys.

>>61845892
like can I make a beat using a 7/8 time signature

I guess, choose where in the sequence (out of the 16 steps) the beat starts to repeat?

>>61845959
Nah, don't think so mate.

>>61845989
Unless it's live streamed, then no, just do it afterwards.

>>61846033
You're welcome.

>>61846066
I 'm pretty sure you can do odd time signatures on Aira, not sure about the original.

>>61838157
>pay $250 for a hunk of plastic instead of just learning to play chords on your midi keyboard
fucking piss off you waste.

>>61845959
no

also do you want the 404 speech or have i posted it for you already?

>>61846314
nah you posted it in this thread already dude haha

>>61845698
Don't know what you mean by /comp/, but pan the instruments out like they would be in an orchestra and give them realistic strength. Use doubling and trading. Mind the principles of harmony so it doesn't sound like porridge.

What to do when inspiration is just completely gone? I've been playing guitar for 20 years and recording and mixing for 5 or 6. It's just like a normal job now. I want the same feeling back as when I was 15.

>>61846591
>Don't know what you mean by /comp/
Composition wise ( a reference to the fact that the /comp/ threads die fast hence questions about composition must be posted in/prod/ )

>>61846625
Listen to a fuck ton of music, stuff outside of your comfort zone too, take walks, try to think of music when you take showers or a shit, when you're tasting new food, write all that shit down on a notepad or record it, small little melodies that might be shitty, everything.

>>61846397
huh, so i did
>>61846297
holy shit lol there's more of you fucking goons? starting to think we should divide into /prod/ and /bitchingaboutotherpeople'sgear/

>>61846284
>Unless it's live streamed, then no, just do it afterwards.
Makes sense, thank you.

>>61846709
I see! Also, visit OrchestrationOnline on Youtube and Facebook.

>>61846748
Walking and listening to a genre of music you'e never heard before was something I was going to suggest. Like Sound Horizon.

I usually find that "young discovery" feeling by doing stuff I haven't done before... like making a piece of music whose core concept is toying with the sense of distance with panning, delays, volume etc.

>>61846591
You can also join their group on facebook there's lots of acclaimed orchestrators on there and everyone on there is really nice.

>tfw I've been working with Ableton for almost a year now but still can't make a decent track for the life of me

I'm not working with any hardware, just Ableton so that may be part of the problem but everything I make just feels so lifeless and boring. I just want to make stuff like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3tyNjJzuIM and zone out and enjoy myself. Fug

>>61847320
Feel the music before you start working on it, get inspired, stop thinking in terms of emulating your idols and you'll be good to go, it's all about the inspiration.

>>61825220
>>61825312
>>61825516
>>61826013
>>61826373
>>61826508
>>61826628
>>61833982
>>61838029
>>61838099
>>61838124
>>61838216
>>61838296
>>61838388
>>61839259
>>61839469
>>61839550
>>61839691
>>61846297
i'm using the last bump we have to tell you all how stupid you are one more time

>>61847320
There's more to making music than opening a DAW.

sorry for the scrub question but why do certain sounds/waveforms in my midi channel fuck with my kick?

>>61848701
>sounds
>in midi channel

ummm....

I made a mashup, this mashup has been done tons of times. but mine is literally the best quality because I actually know some production basics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48_Qs9uH0HY

>>61848721
Cue le epic mono midi meme
>>61848701
He is right though, midi isn't audio. Can you screenshot or better describe the problem?

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>>61848816
You know what I mean. For example, if I just throw Operator into a midi channel and use the default Sine wave, it changes the way my kick sounds. Why is that?

>>61848933
you mean if you played the kick at the same time as the operator sine? its because the sounds are interacting with each other?

>>61848701
Because you're not sidechaining them.

>>61848933
That's what happens with music dude. The more elements you add, it masks certain frequences of the rest and makes it sound different. Progressive House kicks sound like shit by themselves but when you hear them in the full ensemble they sound good. Just an example, works that way with everything desu senpai.

>>61848933
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDS5r5t0VS0

what are the best cheap synths?

>>61849130
They're all cheap if you pirate them senpai.

>>61849130
how cheap?

>>61849149
how the fuck do you pirate a synth senpai?
>>61849173
$100-150 is about as high as I wanna go. I'm just trying this out.

>>61849242
he means vst synths

there's not much in your price range though. the volcas, the pocket operators, the monotrons... shit doesn't get too exciting til a couple hundred dollars later.

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>>61849409
fuuuck
I just wanna make music man

Do these drums sound "right"? I'm still new to producing and I'm trying to ease into it by focusing on one element at a time (drums, synthesis, effects, mastering, etc) rather than diving into all of it at once

https://clyp.it/aloy1c3c

>>61849479
maybe you should pirate some synths then, it's certainly the cheapest way to start out

>>61849514
there is no right or wrong, it all depends on how it is used in the mix

https://clyp.it/shzqrs4v
Can I get some advice on my composition and mixing and such? cheers!

>>61849550
What are the best synths to pirate?

>>61850003
can't comment much on the mixing because I'm still a novice myself but I quite like this. Could use a bit more variation but I like what you're working with

>>61850142
Sylenth

>>61850142
the korg legacy collection, massive, synth1, serum, z3ta, fm8, absynth

those ones are all pretty popular, you can find videos of all of them to see which one appeals to you