It seems Bowie has caused a meme reset, so let's have an honest discussion: after almost a year, what do you think? I still think it's decent, the first couple songs are fantastic but there are some moments here and there in the rest but overall not as good as GKMC
It's objectively not the best hip hop album of 2015. Objectively. There are at least 10 releases better than it. Everybody knows this, except those in denial.
It only dominated critical charts because it was somehow "relevant" as if that means ANYTHING musically + all critics are balding Elvis Costello looking-ass self-hating white nu males.
Haha. Do you see the irony in your post? Rightie whities are pissed that blacks and whites both enjoy the album. So instead of try to come up with their own "better" music, they choose to yell "you just like it cuz you got white guilt!" as a means of distracting people from their own shortcomings (i.e: the distinct lack of good releases from white artists in 2015).
Surprise you don't have a trip. I'm ashamed of you anon, you're better than this.
>didn't listen to hip hop 5 years ago
But oh god yes, I am white.
My favourite part of these threads comes just after people point out Kendrick's stupid fucking lyrics, when the dickriders start justifying it by saying he is rapping from the perspective of a stupid person.
My favorite part is when /pol/tards misunderstand lyrics and roll with their incorrect interpretations and then circlejerk over them, while being completely unaware that the rest of us are laughing at them. Look at the number of geniuses ITT who actually believe TPAB is racist against white people.
didn't click with me; I enjoy King Kunta and The Blacker the Berry but the rest doesn't strike me as special in any way. some of the funky beats were nice i guess but overall 5/10 at best.
You've probably succeeded in enjoying the album purely on it's musical merit like 5% of the fans of it.
Unfortunately Kendrick had hardly anything to do with how the album sounds.
I too am neither black nor white, and I enjoy the album for its lyrical content and flow in addition to the instrument arrangements. Now what?
>and we'll all pretend to give a shit.
No need to be butthurt after losing an argument. Do yourself a favor and listen to TPAB with the lyrics up.
This meme of saying that criticism of an album is bad because the listener didn't "understand" or "get" the album is wearing thin. Yes, I understand that the anon you replied to wasn't actually stating useful criticism or doing anything more than shitposting, but I'd rather have a thread of memes than a thread of people who think they've won an argument simply because the opposing party failed to show up. You don't get to take any kind of moral high ground just because nobody articulates criticism, and you sure as fuck can't cast aspirations as to the intelligence of those against you when you're communicating on an anonymous mongolian recipe sharing forum.
I like TBAB, but I think your getting bogged down by misunderstanding baited shitposting as a failure to grasp the enlightened view that you have been blessed with.
Not need to be jealous, [email protected] Some people are simply unable to appreciate and understand high art.
I never even said the album is good. You claimed the message on the album was "we wuz kangs an sheet" and that every song on the album says "dindu nuffin", and I challenged you to prove your claims. Don't try to sneak you dishonest bastard.
High art is specifically reserved for a people who have the intellect and cultural exposure to be able to appreciate it. It is, by definition, non-compatible with acceptance by the masses. Posting an aggregated score of mass media reviewers doesn't prove that this album has reached an upper echelon of art. I wouldn't dare say that it DISproves it, but don't think you've won because your tastes line up with cultural pundits
What are you even getting at? If you judge a release without understanding it, you're essentially a hack whose opinion on the matter is NOT the least bit relevant. I have every right to call out said hacks. Get back to me when you have legitimate criticisms about the album.
I can definitely see you thinking it's not the best, but 10 releases better than it? Like to me it's my AOTY but I'm not a retard so I can respect other opinions, but what other 10 rap albums did you like better? I can think Summertime 06, Compton, T&Y, DS2, maybe TPTB?
Your pitfall is that you're confusing shitposting with ignorance. You assume that a failure to articulately criticize a piece of music is indicative that no such criticism can be made, or else that the offending party simply doesn't have the attention span or brain power to "understand" or "get" the music.
People on /mu/ do, at the end of the day, have relatively good music tastes, an ability to acutely and actively listen to music, and the command of the english language necessary to articulate thoughts and ideas. The choice to infuriate elitists rather than subject their opinions to scrutiny of others is just one of the consequences of using this place as a medium. It does not grant you the right to feel superior or any sense of accomplishment.
Still waitin on that "articulate criticism", [email protected]
Lemme get the half-assed generic ones outta the way for you. :)
>it's been done before!
>ugh, it's racist against whites!
>flavor of the month meant to appease black lives matter supporters.
This guy knows. I've spent hours genuinely criticizing this album in these threads and have actually had some great conversations because of it.
Now I'm just having fun making you mad.
>I am white.
I knew this. AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA.
It's obvious. Whiteys critiquing Hip Hop, Whites buying Hip Hop (guns, drugs, black empowerment), White rating Hip Hop, by Afro-americans. Whites consuming Blacks.
It's obvious. The consumers, whites. The producters the blacks.
It's obvious. You like it? The "culture"??? You like like? Blacked.com forever.
>Still waitin on that "articulate criticism"
There's your problem, then. Why does what I think matter to you? I came here to angrily hate on an album I don't like, not to intelligently discuss the reasons why.
>it's been done before!
>ugh, it's racist against whites!
>flavor of the month
Oh they've been said before, so they mustn't be valid opinions. Same goes for anything positive you have to say, I guess?
Nah boi, I remember to protect my neck.
>You assume that a failure to articulately criticize a piece of music is indicative that no such criticism can be made
I'd like to have a legitimate discussion about the shortcomings of TPAB (I have several myself, to be honest). Instead, all I see is shitposting and general buzzword being tossed around as legitimate criticism.
>I came here to angrily hate on an album I don't like, not to intelligently discuss the reasons why.
That's all I needed to hear. We could've saved a lot of time had you opened with that post.
GKMC is good, but "To Pimp a Butterfly" simply falls flat. You can do conscious records without all of the cliche trimmings. Musically, the sampling and production is very impressive, though. Especially with the lack luster production in HipHop that's been taking place in the last 10 years or so. I will say though, GKMC and TPAB are vastly more incredibly than any recent HipHop artist releases.
>OP asks what people think of the album.
>Some people respond negatively, some positive.
>This guy only questions those who responded negatively.
>Pretends he wants to have a genuine discussion and isn't just defending his Dindu Anthem of the year.
The literally entry level culture, the surface of music. The obvious leftist Agenda approach. Obama's activist favorite. The "is not all that" but because the audience, we pretend to love so much it, it's classy, holy shit, you know, hahaha, rap.
Pathetic how.... Chuck D (Black In A Man), did literally the pro-black album in 2014, but no one bough a fucking Music Media to him.
Yeah. Chuck and Kendrick grew up in different environments. Black-white relations have changed a bit since It Takes A Nation Of Millions was released. They have similar messages. but their respective audiences are/were exposed to different socio-political climates.
They are to this generation of black youth. They're growing up in an environment where black rights groups are abundant, so the Kendrick's message focuses on whether or not the black community is in fact progressing or simply trying to apologize for itself through the use of said groups/organizations. Whereas back in Chuck D's day, it was more about trying to band blacks together to form said black rights groups.
Not a big fan of the actual songwriting on that album. Definitely inferior to several other notable hiphop releases of 2015.
I think Kendrick's flows, rhymes, lyrics sound just weird sometimes. On all of his albums. I don't really have much to say about Kendrick. I enjoy his music
I liked the "old school" beats on Section.80. Some of the clean "trap flavored" beats on GKMC made me sick. The beats on this album are great imo. With FlyLo, Thundercat, Knxwledge.. what can you expect?
Oh, the tupac interview was a bit cool and pretty fucking lame at the same time.
I hated it from the moment I listened to it, but after revisiting it I think some of the more relaxed or traditional funk tracks like You Ain't Gotta Lie are actually decent. Overall it's about a 5 or 6/10, and anybody who thinks any more of it is blinded by "muh cultural relevance". It'll go down as the Sgt Pepper of this generation regardless.
People who think this album is genuinely 10/10: where are the 10/10 moments? At what point are you thinking, "wow, that was legitimately beautiful"? This album is a jumbled mess of half-baked ideas and can only be described as "good" at best.